Forged Alliance Forever is basically perfect. It’s one of the few RTS games where macro, economy, and scale all actually matter at the same time. Most RTS games solve one and ignore the others.
But is it fun?
>>736966135Did they ever find out what made the one autist so angry he made it his life's mission to destroy faf? Was it t3 mobile AA or something?>>736966247I sure think so.
>>736966247Of course. Team games on a good map are exceptional, even when you lose. There's always something to talk about.
>>736966247You can regularly (from start to finish) do strategies. It's one of the most varied:deep multiplayer games.https://unitdb.faforever.com/.
to bad it looks like that
>>736968205It looks better than SC/2 and AOE II.
>>736966405>Nuke the eco player on Dual Gap.>We lose anyway.
>When I started, I didn't know you could upgrade mass extractors.
>>736966135beyond all reason is better
>noooo you need to create an account with us and link your Steam account to prove you own this 20 year old game!!!
>>736966135free camera on rts looks like shit
>Strategic launch detected>Forgot to build a defense against it again
I think Zero-K is the best all rounder and feels the most pure as an RTS. Supreme Commander and BAR have their niches where they're fun at, but I wouldn't say they are the purest form of RTS.
>>736973791I disagree.
>>736966135>lobotomized and castrated ai>build shield+mavor to win>can't even cripple yourself to have funNo, thanks
>>736975006That's because you're wrong.
>>736975260No, I'm right.
>>736973791i tlaked with the lead balancing nigger while it was still called Complete Annihilation the way it was described to me is:- ARM faction strengths: high damage, high speed, low cost, quirky special effects such as 120 metal stun effect starter unit one shotting a 1600 metal tier 2 CORE faction unit- CORE faction strengths: low damage, low speed, high cost, higher HP- the reason all devs and top players main ARM faction: purely because of vibesthe game was saved by merging both factions into one and rebalancing which coincidentally consisted of nerfing all the ARM units while buffing all the CORE units except the Instigator or what ever it was called100% underrated soul gamebiggest jew golems in the history of balancing video games
>>736971738Aren't size and power greater in SupCom?
>>736973791The campaign could've been so much better. Even TA and TA:K had better missions overall.
>>736971867>Two minutes to play one of the best games available.It's not as if they can get your personal information.
>>736972419Define free camera.
>>736975027Are you just talking about AI skirmish? Play PvP.
>>736973791What's less pure about SupCom?
>>736966135>moral grandstanding about not doing any reverse engineering or decompiling of the core
>>736978029What are you talking about? SupCom is one of the most moddable games.
>>736977883First thing that comes to mind is adjacency bonuses. Adjacency bonuses feels more like an optimisation minigame than RTS.
>>736975027There are a million AI mods that make that a no-go without an extensive defensive strategy beyond a couple shield generators. And if they arent enough for you then you go outside FaF and install LOUD AI mod.
>>736978202I think it's more fun. I didn't like basebuilding in SupCom 2 as much because it didn't have it.
The quality loss in tone and in dialogue is super jarring between Starcraft 1 and 2, especially after coming to wings of liberty straight after finishing the campaign of Brood War.What the fuck happened at Blizzard? Why did they lose their touch with what made Starcraft work so well tonally and aesthetics wise?
>>736978190How about making it multithreaded?
when will handcannoneers be buffed?
>>736979331That is pretty much the only reason Sanctuary Shattered Sun is in dev lol. If faf was able to be multithreaded it wouldnt need to exist.
I honestly can't believe how ass-backwards most RTS are designed. Complain about how boring and sterile SupCom is all you want, GPG had the right idea of putting the focus of the UI on the shit that mattered instead of the braindead move of having a game where it's best played not looking at what's happening where the screen is focused most of the time.
>>736983972SupCom is about zooming all the way out and watching dots fight other dots. What a waste of graphics, they should've gone with that kind of minimalism from the start.
>>736966135I wasted so much time in 4vs4. insanely addictive and I suck ass in rts
>>736984137Dots fighting other dots that you can see is still strategic gameplay and you can zoom in to tip the scales if needed. This is a far cry from being force zoomed in when most of your attention should be anywhere but where the main screen is.
>>736977819I don't want living people in my videogames
>>736984137People don't play zoomed out. You can't do half of the things you need to like that. You can't even scout zoomed out all the time because buildings and units being made don't have tactical icons.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=egxzPAywNEs
Just played the zombie mode in BAR and it was fun
Most RTS games are about optimizing build orders. SupCom is about managing a live economy under pressure. That’s why one feels solved and the other doesn’t.
I have supcom cultist fatigue
>>736986080then do some cardio fatass, it's not even that much cultism
>>736986292>it's not even that much cultismYou literally rate all games based on how similar to supcom they are.
>>736986342I am not the person you think you are talking to. I just like RTS in general and I play more dune 2000 than supcom
luv supcomluv aoe2luv aomluv command and conquerluv homeworldluv wc3 campaignsimple as that
dust front RTS looks cool
>>736986342Do you actually have a criticism of the game?
>>736986848it's soulless
>>736987119Is this "muh unit sounds"? If so, is that it?PS: It has some of the coolest and funniest faction designs, e.g., 'Murrica UEF, and edgy Cybran.
>>736987119Soulless to me is playing a game with a hostile UI and having to grind defined starts if I want to get anywhere.
>>736987119So no?
>>736966135But I just want to play single player skirmish games.
>>736966135Im tired of pretending SupCom isn't old and busted already and for this nigger to post this every single day
Everyone say bad things about SupCom so SupComfag gets a melty
anyone remember planetary annihilation?me neither
>>736988434I remember playing it a single time, multiplayer, I made so many patrolling aircraft on my planet that the entire game slowed down to a halt and I consider that a technical victory because everybody else wanted to stop playing
>>736988057It's not, though.
zero-k? zerogay.
Beyond all Dicks
I can't post
>>736978467corpo posers moved in
>>736978467I always thought Starcraft's dialogue was retarded so I don't get it, the tone was the side effect of Blizzard having to retool the game in response to a bullshot trailer of another RTS that never came out to try to outdo that. SC2 just wore Blizzard's comic book inspirations more openly.
>>736988015FAF is the best way to play skirmish though, since it includes improved skirmish bots to play against.
>>736966247It would be fun if these losers would play anything other than gap of rohan and setons clutch.Every time I go to play it I host a burial grounds (best map in the game) lobby, wait half an hour, and end up with like two players.
dwnq
>>736973791I just can't get into Z-zero-K. It's to goofy and wonky for me. Maybe if BAR didn't exist to scratch my TA itch along with Supcom I'd be more into it, but alas, they do exist.
remember the thread a few days ago where the supreme commander fanboy admitted it didn't have any strategy? that was funny.
>>736986848Boring maps, shitty ai and toothless campaign overall, samey factions, unit cap, overrelying on max zoom out.
Anyone try pic related? I enjoy the gameplay but hate that the higher difficulty modes tie everything to the artifacts, especially when they have auto decay(?)
>>736995964I haven't had a problem with any of that. The maps are better than AOE and SC, with various implementations of land, sea, and size. There are various AIs across vanilla and user made. The factions have enough differences that benefit them all being used in each game. The max unit cap is plenty. And you barely have to zoom out for anything, just to go to a different location, really.
