Is it really that bad?
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>>736985486Do you really need a fucking logo to be as big as possible?
You can always tell if a game is really good or bad by the people who hate it.
RE4 ruined the IP
>>736985423He's gotta be in his 30s. How is he still hung up on this?
>>736985423I will never forgive the Ashley downgrade.
>>736985536stupid phoneposter shoo
LOOMER JUMPSACRE
Everything he’s said about re4 troonmake is 100% true and the only people who disagree are liberal tranny faggots like that child molester troon Suzi Hunter.
>>736985691don't you have to be to have played the original re4?
>>736985768you mean UPGRADE???
>>736985423its ok and better than everything else capcom shits out nowadays but it will never reach the highs of the OGall the new """fans""" pretending its better than the original are just fueliing the flames
>>736985691>How is he still hung up on this?What do you mean?
>>736985942She looks like a tranny so yeah it’s a downgrade faggot.
>>736986000trannies rule your brain rent free
>>736985928>>736985997Why is a 30 year old so obsessed with one video of his not being universally agreed upon. So much so he has to make another one owning them hard.
>>736985423No. But you all are a flock of lambs.
>>736986065YWNBAW. Stay the fuck away from children, freak.
>>736985768Just use mods
>>736986086The only person who can answer that is Crowbcat himself.Maybe the point was to remake his RE4R video and regurgitate other peoples' talking points as an allegory to RE4R itself regurgitating other modern games' UI and design sensibilities.
I enjoyed it
>>736986126spare us the embarrassing boomer rage. you prefer her stylized OG look because you don’t like how real women actually look, FAGGOT
>>736986540What did you just say?
>>736986584There’s easier ways to say you’re a tranny chaser than to pretend like troonmake Ashley is attractive.
>>736985942>Gets shotgunned by running forward for no reasonStupid grade, more like.
>>736985423yeah it's so bad
>>736985423Not at all
>>736985423I dont know man. I liked it but youtube man said its bad actually so now im confused.
>>736986086>of his not being universally agreed upon.Because people didn't understand what he was saying. Shit, there are STILL people saying he lowered the audio "purposely!" despite the fact this new video has like 10-15 streamers going "hold up, gotta check the audio... it's too low! ... ... ... ... it's MAXXED!?"The only people that disagree with him of the DEmake being a demake are Zoomers that never played the original Bio4, because they were LITERALLY just born when it released.>Remake 19 year old title>Wonder why people that played it 19 years ago aren't enthused because it's damn near perfect and not aged at all beyond graphics and even then still looks good for PS2 era.
>>736985942Remake is slop, but I will concede that the new Ashley is more likable than the old one. She went from mildly annoying brat to waifu material. If only nu-Leon wasn't such a complete wet blanket, they might have had some actual romantic chemistry.
>>736986305I feel like it's pretty obvious he just has some stick up his ass because the video wasn't received as he expected it to be, which he hadn't experienced before so he got some schizo melty grudge about it that he can't get over.It's like when some irrelevant vidya shit happens or is released and out of nowhere a new resident terminal schizposter is born and keeps spamming posts in threads related to the subject with it because they have some weird grudge or complex about the irrelevant thing that happened, so in spite of being adults they can't move on because the chip on their shoulder is constantly whispering in their ear and feeding their inferiority complex.
>>736986086Why wouldn't he be? I remember this. That Australian faggot even alleged he doctored his footage and audio. He was accused of dishonesty. Some people hold on to things like that. I would. They deliberately lied and attacked him to discredit him. If I were him I'd make a new video about it every year until they literally killed themselves.
It's literally just one of those competent but boring Hollywood remakes of an old classic movie, but people keep pretending its anything more than that. It's a perfectly fine game, but that's all it is, fine.
>>736986895Nah, people trying to be armchair psychologists with Crowbcat are cringe. Blatant cope about valid criticisms. A lot of people simply have a chip on their shoulder about the RE4 remake, myself included. I stil think its mere existence is an insult to the original, and that its immense success proves that I am surrounded by NPCs.>"Oh boy, I wonder which game Capcom will remake next."Fuck people like this.
>>736985423Both Resident Evil 4 are fucking dogshit games. I'm glad that you fuckers enjoyed the original on the gamecube when you were fucking 12 years old but it doesn't deserve to be called Resident Evil let alone be treated as this infallible masterpiece that deserves to be put on a pedestal. Any motherfucker that think the remake is better deserves to have their legs replaced with jello, that game has the worst fucking movement in a game dethroning Evil Within and Witcher 3.
>>736986905That kind of dogpiling is just absurd to me. Reminds me of AVGN setting twitter on fire because he refused to watch the 2016 Ghostbusters remake. Normies bewilder me.
>>736986086>>736986895YWNBAW
>>736986806>because it's damn near perfect and not aged at all beyond graphicsit's a shooter with retarded PS1 tier movement restrictions
>>736987181Yeah and now you see everyone crying making threads every day if not hour about him wondering "why's he doing this he can just stop blah blah blah".He was publicly accused of being disingenuous. Crowbcat has never pursued someone else and accused them of dishonesty if they disagree with him. I'm sure someone made a video defending battleborn or dead rising 4 and I didn't see Crowbcat publicly accuse them of being disingenuous. >He's obsessed!He's making his point and people are crying about it everyone is free to just say they disagree but the personal attacks didn't silence him so now he's "obsessed" funny how that works isn't it, you take it lying down and you're irrelevant and you should just disappear but you stand up for yourself and you're obsessed and should just disappear. I commend him for making trannies seethe enough to talk about it 2 years later.
>>736985423I'm sorry, calling it a rehash of REMAKE2 is just fucking retarded
>>736987083>A lot of people simply have a chip on their shoulder about the RE4 remake, myself included.Lmao, zoomers have the superior RE4 while boomers such as yourself got the inferior version.
>>736986065>tumblr
>>736985423It's a fine supplement for fans of the original, but it's not the real Resident Evil 4. They did the post-game content better (like Separate Ways) since they were able to weave it in into the narrative better, but the main game itself will never reach the highs of the original. If you're an RE4 fan, it's worth playing, but don't ever think for a second that it can replace the original. Capcom are insane to even market it that way. That's why there's been so much pushback. I don't think anyone truly thinks this game is terrible, it just lacks charm and originality, but that's so ridiculously hard for a remake to achieve.
>>736987520>zoomers have the superior RE4It's just a TLOU2 reskin.
>if I call it a TLOU reskin, maybe I can be a womanlol
>>736987806Trannies love 4 demake more than anyone else don’t kid yourself.
>>736985423it's not bad, it just had no impact like the original did.
>>736987378Their reaction to the video is just baffling. Contrast this with the reception Arin Hanson got for his Zelda Sequelitis a decade back, which actually was a really shoddy critique. People who disagreed were simply much more level-headed, basically real versions of the "actually" meme, but most people, myself included, were just happy Egoraptor finally made a new animation. The response to Crowbcat is just hysterical, almost like a cult or something.
>>736987927>no impactneither did the original
>>736987989YWNBAW
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>>736987609>They did the post-game content better (like Separate Ways) since they were able to weave it in into the narrative better, but the main game itself will never reach the highs of the original.The fact that they were able to make Separate Ways into its own game instead of a forgettable side game puts it high above the highs of the original.The fact that they made the remake harder puts it above the highs of the original.The fact that they had better bosses puts it above the highs of the original.The fact that they had better side content puts it above the highs of the original.The fact that they had better gameplay puts it above the highs of the original.>If you're an RE4 fan, it's worth playing, but don't ever think for a second that it can replace the original. Capcom are insane to even market it that way. That's why there's been so much pushback.It HAS replaced the original. This isn't RE3R 2.0, no matter how much you wish it was. The public has moved on from the original because it's been ported to absolute death to the point of being a meme, and because the remake is a leaner, faster, more action-packed game than the original.
>>736987989such delicious bait I can't resisthere's your (YOOOOOOOU)
>>736985423it's mid. og re4 was product of passion. demake4 is corposlop
>>736985423>is it really that mid?
>>736988231TRVKE
>>736988231Yup. One needs a soul to recognize soul. The remake was a force for good, as it separated the consoomers from the patricians.
>>736987989every single TPS that exists today exists because its devs played re4 and thought "dayum, this is the best shit ever, I need to make a game like this"its said in literally every single interviewsometimes even for non shooter games (like GoW 2018)
>>736985423if you put a different name on it people would call it midit's simply larpers that never player the OG hyping up this piece of shit
>gameplay is better>history is better>less linear>more content>less iconic>voice acting is worst>player handholding is WAY worst>mods gives even more replayability for the gameIt's not better than the original, but its closer, people complaining about that are just grifters that can't fathom that Last of Us is the most influential game of the 2010s.
It's a perfectly fine remake. It's not so good that it would make the original obsolete, but that's always going to be the case with all-time classics like that. And it's not so faithful that the autists would be satisfied with it. But it's still a good game, and anyone genuinely upset at it needs to get a fucking grip.
>>736987927I mean you aren't going to bring about a rise of third person action horror games when it's already an established genre. Besides RE4 was one of those impacts which brought about bad as well as good.
>>736988306>One needs a soul to recognize soul.this, even if you for some reason dislike the original you should at least be able to recognize that it indeed does have soul and genuine effort and thought put in to things. failing to do that means you don't have a soul and you are a disgusting bugman. it's telling how the shills attacked crowbcat after his video. (shows the sad state of humanity)re4 remake didn't invent anything, it made no effort to impress. it just is "mid", a solid 6.5/10. the corposlopification also shows when they put cut content behind paywall, also p2w mechanics in single player (lol)
>>736988053>>736988060>>736988125>>736988349There were games before RE4 that used a grid based inventory system of RE4 like Deus Ex.There were games that used QTEs before RE4 like Shenmue.There were games that used cover systems before RE4.There were games that implemented weapon upgrading like System Shock before RE4.No games besides RE5 plays like RE4. Even the games where some dumbfuck says it was 'inspired by RE4' such as Gears of War, do not play like RE4.Fucking mediocre turds like Kill.Switch and Operation Winback are why the dogshit TPS template of today exists.RE4 had no impact to the shooter genre other than the fucking atrocious camera except there are games before RE4 that utilized over the shoulder perspective when aiming down such as Splinter Cell, with RE4's cancerous influence being that it is the default all the time.
I hate this whole either-or conversationYes, the OG is superior in many respects>aesthetics>laser sight default>Leon, Ada, Ramon and Saddler being miles better characters (overall)>better atmosphereBut the Remake does other things better>feels better to play, you can cry all you want about how the shit controls and QTEs makes the game more tense acktuhally (even though you can easily trivialize the gameplay in the OG since enemies stagger so easily and they're far less aggressive) but personally I enjoy greater freedom of movement and not playing my action game like a chess match (as well as the Krauser fight not being a glorified cutscene)>Ashley and Luis are lightyears better than in the OG, both in design and character; Ashley isn't a weird Aardman looking character with a grating and extremely annoying chipmunk voice, and Luis goes from non-character (who is pretty much only revered by OG fans solely because of his "ballistics" line) to an actual companion that Leon actually remembers and honors by the end of the story.>better merchantI could go on, but really I'd say this binary dialogue where the either the remake is a complete piece of shit and the OG is a flawless masterpiece (the unc take) and vice versa is dumb since both are flawed (but the OG is given more grace because of nostalgia) and both have parts where the new improves and the old proves that it stands the test of time.
>>736988565But people praising the remake don't try to claim the original is bad. If anything doesn't this cast you in a bad light for not being able to see the effort and soul that went into the remake?
>>736988576Yeah, the only things RE4 impacted were:>normalized re-releasing the same game on new generations with 60 dollar price tag>normalized marvel quip dialogue in everyy single TPS game>normalized over the shoulder gameplay>normalized forced "upgrade" systems to your weapon that are just numbers going up together with enemiesAnd the game is unplayable on PC, CAPCOM had to pin a HD mod to fix the game to be playable on 60 FPS.
>>736985423yea
>>736988616YWNBAW the demake does nothing better.
>>736988576>Fucking mediocre turds like Kill.Switch and Operation Winback are why the dogshit TPS template of today existsI wish RE would go back to this level of aesthetics.
>>736988576>every dev says it did>random anon: nuh uh it didntlolyou will stay mad your entire life about ityou will be on your deathbed mad about itpeople will still talk about re4 og being an influence on them in 30 years and nobody will mention the re4make having inspired them to make <game X>you can seethe and cope in your follow up reply but you won'T change anything
>>736985423>Is it really that bad?No, but the seethe that crowbcat generates from newfag RE fans is great
>>736988565The original is just brimming with soul, it feels downright sacriligious when people throw mud at it to make their corposlop look better by comparison.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBfsAUFifOoThe original has an atmosphere and mood to it unlike anything ever made before or since. The remake just feels like every other game made since TLOU.
>>736988737what about the shooting gallery minigame
>>736988737No QTES, can switch weapons without going into inventory, enemies move less predictably and less robotically. My playthrough of remake's village holdout scene didn't bug like it did when I last played the original's version.
95% of the asshurt could be avoided by simply not calling it Resident Evil 4. Call it Resident Evil Resurrection or whatever the fuck. There's almost no asshurt over the MGS3 remake because Konami just called it "Metal Gear Solid Delta". Instead Capcom picked the worst option possible. Not only did they call it Resident Evil 4, but they went back and changed the original to be Resident Evil 4 (2005), the original got demoted to the ghetto title instead. And then there was the whole GOG garbage with Capcom going "lol why would you want to play these old versions the remakes are superior" essentially admitting they view them as replacements. It's an awful look that naturally pisses old fans off
>>736988794Stupid bullshit. Why did they change the ganado targets to obese pirates? Why is Leon shooting human pirates???? The p2w tokens you get from it aren’t good either, I love reloading my save over and over to try and get the striker charm! So fun!
>>736988097>The fact that they were able to make Separate Ways into its own game instead of a forgettable side gameI praised the remake for Separate Ways, but don't forget that a lot of the content in the new Separate Ways was siphoned from the original game. The G-3 boss fight and laser room were cut from the main game for the sake of the DLC — I repeat, two MAJOR iconic levels from the OG game scrapped for the sake of a paid DLC. You get more time with Ada (which is good) and a better side narrative, but the main campaign with Leon suffers.>The fact that they made the remake harder>better bossesYou can look behind you in the remake. That alone trivializes every single boss fight which wasn't updated to utilize this new mechanic. The Saddler and Mendez boss fights, two of the most iconic fights in the original game, have been effectively neutered. >better side contentYou mean the pointless, gamey, ludonarratively dissonant side quests? The ones where Leon goes around hunting eggs and snakes instead of finding Ashley? Those ones?>better gameplayIn some ways (like the fluency of animations), yes. In other ways (like the busted AI and hit detection), no. You can't shoot through doors in the remake, Ashley's AI is less predictable, the knife lets you escape every encounter, the precision of the laser sight has been replaced with a generic crosshair. Dead Space plays more like the OG RE4 than the remake does.>It HAS replaced the original.>The public has moved onLOL, the fact we're still discussing this three years later is testament to the fact that you're wrong. Again, I like and play both. As I said, the remake is worth playing as a fan of the original, but it's not better. It's a supplement.
>>736988839To add to this, the devs realized that RE5 pretty much perfected the gameplay of 4, which is why they added the ability to execute downed enemies. As a result, the flow is much, much better than in the original where you had to stand over enemies and slash them four to five times if you wanted to conserve ammo.
>>736988770NTA but >game dev decides to namedrop RE4, because they know that gets their game more attention>game dev mistakenly believes something they're doing was done first in RE4Take your pick.
>>736988770>dev says it did>being an influence on themAnd their finished product plays nothing like RE4 and has nothing from RE4 besides tertiary elements that RE4 did not invent in the first place. You and they are as fucking braindead as the cunts that say "we were inspired by Quentin Tarantino".Keep on dreaming on that RE4 invented the universe. Maybe your dreams of being a woman will come true as well.
>>736988616you havent played OG and it shows
>>736988952>G-3Meant to say U-3. Getting my 3's mixed up.
>>736988616>personally I enjoy greater freedom of movement and not playing my action game like a chess matchWell, at least you are intellectually honest. I often dislike comparing games to chess, since it often comes across as snobby, but the remake does indeed lack that chess feel of the original. There was a push-and-pull to the original. You could not fight enemies and run away at the same time, you needed to commit to every single action, positioning and awareness of your surroundings were the most crucial aspect, and if you fucked up there was no easy way out.Once you master playing RE4, it is a very relaxing experience, less hectic than the remake, but it still comes across as more cerebral. Mastering that game feels like the final fight scene from Kung Fu Hustle; at the start of the movie, the protagonist is weaker than literally everyone in the film, but in the end, he is taking on dozens of guys with effortless and minimal motions. Sure, when you get good at the game, even professional difficulty does not put up much of a fight, but you actually had to improve and adapt to get there. It only becomes easy because you know the game inside and out, like chess.
>>736988952>but the main campaign with Leon suffers.Except the U-3 boss gets a better deal with Ada then it did in the original where it was just a boss haphazardly thrown in there. Now they're more of a threat this time around. >The Saddler and Mendez boss fights, two of the most iconic fights in the original game, have been effectively neutered.Except that those boss fights were absolute jokes in the original, especially Saddler who was a terrible excuse of a boss. The only good boss in the original RE4 is Verdugo.>You mean the optional side quest system that got fleshed out and showed more personality than the original, which was a measily shoot these emblems? Those ones?Yes. :) >You can't shoot through doors in the remakeOh noooooo... anyway.>Ashley's AI is less predictableThat's on you for being a shit player>the knife lets you escape every encounterNo, that's not true considering the knife is a finite resource, and the only way to get the infinite-use knife is to find all the castellan dolls, beat the game, then find fork over a quarter million peseta. >the precision of the laser sight has been replaced with a generic crosshair.Except the only handguns that don't take the laser sight are the Blacktail and Red 9 so they don't make the other guns obsolete.>LOL, the fact we're still discussing this three years later is testament to the fact that you're wrong.Except we're not discussing this on the merit of the original; we're discussing because a grifter decided to stick his head out of this hole after the internet told him to fuck off when he tried to bring his 4chan contrarianism to the table. > It's a supplement.It's the successor.
>>736988952>fluency of animationsthe animations are why remake plays like fucking shit because you can't even quickly do one action after the next because the animation didn't fucking end yet. Especially the fucking terrible movement of Leon where every sway and "inertia" needed to be animated fully.>You can't shoot through doors in the remakeoh wow. You can't cheese a few encounters. Cry me a river. There are better things to bitch about the remake like>the knife lets you escape every encounterthe TMP in the original lets you escape every thing because it was a good weapon and not an inaccurate bullethose even with the stock in the remake. >discussing this three yearsBecause a youtuber that peaked with the Dead Rising video, that is still relevant to this day, made another video.
>>736989161>Once you master playing RE4, it is a very relaxing experience, less hectic than the remake, but it still comes across as more cerebral. Mastering that game feels like the final fight scene from Kung Fu Hustle; at the start of the movie, the protagonist is weaker than literally everyone in the film, but in the end, he is taking on dozens of guys with effortless and minimal motions. Sure, when you get good at the game, even professional difficulty does not put up much of a fight, but you actually had to improve and adapt to get there. It only becomes easy because you know the game inside and out, like chess.You don't even need to make it past the village to know the game is an absolute cake walk.
>>736989272>the TMP in the original lets you escape every thing because it was a good weaponAnd because it was incredibly easy to melee setup and shread bosses with high DSP>and not an inaccurate bullethose even with the stock in the remake.The devs did that because of the above. Lol.
>>736989282Nobody's first playthrough looks like this, he even has the special costume. This is the final scene from Kung Fu Hustle that I was talking about. The most common critique from people who haven't played the original and prefer the remake is that the controls are weird and unintuitive. Your post reaffirms my point.
I fucking hate the movement in the RE engine games, it makes Mercs in 4make feel like pure ass which is likely why they made it way easier. Doing a Pro run is some of the most miserable shit in my life compared to OG4 that felt much better to actually play. Also the Bolt Thrower is such a trashfire of a "gun" I can't even remember how people meme'd themselves into thinking this tripe was good back during launch.
>>736989272so? OG restricted your movement also, you're just a brainlet pleb who can't into momentum mechanics like the retards who couldn't understand tank controls we all used to laugh at
>>736989282I always find this clip funny because the dude just spent a whole clip and a grenade to kill a bunch of basic mooks when a handful of bullets, kicks, and knife attacks would've been a lot more efficient.Sure, you wipe out (almost) all the enemies on screen, but what about the encounter after that? And the one after that? It's like spamming Ultima on Shinra grunts and saying "see how easy this game is?" despite the fact that you're now out of MP and have no restoration items.
>>736989514skill issueand you hate the bolt thrower because it blows a hole in your unreliable stagger narrative and you just suck at the game LOL
>>736989465>The most common critique from people who haven't played the original and prefer the remake is that the controls are weird and unintuitive.This is the same excuse oldfags use about the youth not understanding tank controls despite the fact that the original REs were normieslop titles released on normie slop consoles. The controls are not weird and intuitive, RE4 is normieslopcorpratecockrot meant to be played by the masses (Nintendo release remember). It's that the game is easy as shit. You can solo with your base weapons unupgraded from a nice vantage point. Meanwhile, you actually have to fully upgrade your weapons and be on the run because you will get swarmed to pull off consistent melee setups, and EVEN then, it's not guaranteed. In short:RE4 = is fucking easyRE4R is fucking easy... on easy.
>>736989465the only I problem I have with 4 in terms of controls(and it's really more of a camera issue) are the odd occasions where it's out of its light gun stop n pop flow and involves something actively chasing you and doing attack patterns like the gigante. there are spots where it feels like you're stuck in a loop of being unable to stop and see what the fuck is happening to engage.
>>736989610>skill issueI S-Ranked every character when Mercs released, the game is piss easy even if it feels slightly worse to play.>blows a hole in your unreliable stagger narrativeNo, it's still inconsistent since It sometimes takes multiple bolts into the face to get a stun. My issue with it is the gun sucks, doesn't even do as much damage as the Blacktail and doesn't sound cool to use. It's just a bad rework of the mine thrower and only really "useful" in the double Garrador room.
>>736989282>You don't even need to make it past the villagethat's an ng+ clip you disingenuous faggot
>>736985423The remake? Half of it is an exact copy of the Gamecube one, and the changes just make you wish you were playing the original.
>>736989559>>736989793You're missing the point of the webm: he did all that with the unupgraded handgun
>>736985423Its great. Im 22. Tried playing the old game a few years ago, shi was fuckin garbage. YOU CANT FUCKING MOVE WHILE SHOOTING. It feels like they gave me shitty controls and handicapt me to artifically cause 'horror'The remake was fuckin fun as hell.
>>736989832and a grenade
>>736989832how do you know?he couldve just not upgraded the ammo
>>736989716>You can solo with your base weapons unupgraded from a nice vantage point.You are not hearing me. I know you can beat most things in RE4 with just the knife, even bosses, and that's my point. The game becomes very easy when you understand its mechanics, but nobody does this on their first playthrough. You actually have to learn and adapt, and it's very satisfying when encounters that made you shit bricks on your first playthrough become a walk in the park, because you as a player improved.
>>736989226>Except the U-3 boss gets a better deal with Ada then it did in the original where it was just a boss haphazardly thrown in thereThere was an entire chapter in the mine leading up to it. Could you please elaborate too on how playing as Ada gives him a better gig? As I recall, in the original you had to actually position yourself around corners and pillars in order to avoid him. The remake drops you slap bang into the middle of a circle where you can simply maneuver around him carelessly.>>>736989226>Except that those boss fights were absolute jokes in the original, especially Saddler who was a terrible excuse of a boss. The only good boss in the original RE4 is Verdugo.And you're happy that now they're even bigger jokes? Interdasting.>The only good boss in the original RE4 is Verdugo.That's even more interdasting. The only good RE4 boss according to you is the one that utilizes the claustrophobic level design the best, and yet in the remake it's turned into a LB masher. >optional side quest system that got fleshed outThere was no side quest system in the original game unless you count medallions and collectibles as side quests. Nothing got fleshed out, something new was added. That something sucked because it added pointless meandering that disrupted the flow of the game and its pacing. >Oh noooooo... anyway.The reason that you can't do it is because the door is a store-bought asset, just like everything else in the game. They couldn't even make new ones for the destructed models. LMAO. cont.
>>736989226>>736989993>That's on you for being a shit playerOof, bit harsh...https://youtu.be/e-KAA6b2qWQ?t=1032&si=579df-n7MiRAOewE>No, that's not true considering the knife is a finite resourceYou find knives everywhere. The enemy corpses drop knives. >Except the only handguns that don't take the laser sight are the Blacktail and Red 9 so they don't make the other guns obsolete.It's a literal upgrade you get for engaging with the pointless side quest system and you have conceded that its not even on every gun. The Red9 got nerfed in the remake too so if your argument was balancing, you're just flat out wrong here as well.>Except we're not discussing this on the merit of the original; we're discussing because a grifter decided to stick his head out of this hole after the internet told him to fuck off when he tried to bring his 4chan contrarianism to the table. >4chan contrarianismYou posted this on 4chan. I'm wondering whether you're a member of an actual defense force or just a clueless bot now. Can you give me recipes for a cupcake?
>>736989734This is entirely by design. Part of the challenge of RE4 is to know where the enemy is and what he is doing without even looking in his direction, simple object permanence. Makes for a very tense experience when you have to dodge Verdugo's attacks from sound cues alone.
>>736989272>the animations are why remake plays like fucking shit because you can't even quickly do one action after the next because the animation didn't fucking end yet. Especially the fucking terrible movement of Leon where every sway and "inertia" needed to be animated fully.Maybe, but the remake does feel less robotic. That's clearly what I meant by it. The original animations have less delay which is objectively better from a gameplay perspective, but it's easier to get immersed into the experience when the characters actually move like humans. This is why I said that the remake is supplementary. It's not RE4, but it's still worth playing to see RE4 in a new light.>oh wow. You can't cheese a few encounters. Cry me a river. There are better things to bitch aboutIt's literally in the manual. It was marketed as a core feature of the game, whether or not you used it doesn't matter but devolution was one of the things they were clearly going for and in 2005 this wasn't a core feature in every game, it was new at the time. Not the first instance of it, but interesting nonetheless.>the knifeAlready complained about it. You didn't read the post.>the TMP in the original lets you escape every thing because it was a good weapon and not an inaccurate bullethose even with the stock in the remake. Yes but SMG ammo is scarcer than handgun ammo and the TMP shreds through ammo. You can't just craft ammo from gunpowder and peanuts like in the remake. >Because a youtuber that peaked with the Dead Rising video, that is still relevant to this day, made another video.The cognitive dissonance is well on display here. >YouTuber that peaked highlighting faults of Capcom remakes>But this nigger is bitching about the same YouTuber highlighting faults of another Capcom remakeHAHAHAHA, it's all good when it's something I don't like, right?
>>736985423aside from disagreeing with it philosophically and the inevitable issues with that there's only a couple problems that stood out to me. the bullet spray really is just a head scratcher, there's no reason the basic pistol should be firing shots outside of the reticle. momentum makes sense as something that would stand in for the limitations of tank controls but the extent it's applied to the walk just doesn't make sense. basic item collecting that you do constantly feels lethargic and kind of annoying as a result.
>>736990043if RE4 is a product of its time, isn't that more of a reason to do a remake with fresh mechanics?
>>736990060agree to disagree I guess. in the moment it didn't feel convincing to me in a this all part of the plan sort of way.
>>736990075>HAHAHAHA, it's all good when it's something I don't like, right?The Dead Rising 4 vs 1 comparison was topical while this video is 2 fucking years too late and everybody talked how shit the remake is.It is the equivalent of the fucker that released a 10 hour long video on Elder Scrolls oblivion, right after another fucker released a 10 hour long video on Oblivion.It's a genuine waste of fucking time where the end of it wastes even more with showing off how the original got accolades.
>>736989559Yes, and if you'll notice, he almost got hit by a sickle at the 12 second mark when he threw the grenade, and was just lucky it didn't hit him. This is the beauty of RE4. He had to commit to that grenade throw and plant his feet, and almost ate a sickle because of his bad decision. Risk and reward, push and pull.
>>736990132If it's a product of its time, that means it cannot be replicated, so that would actually be a good argument against remaking it. That's not the argument I made, but you don't know what that phrase means.
No it's a great game. Crowbcat only said it had less soul then the original re4 which is true. But it's still a great game and reinterpretation.
>>736990243so if it can't be replicated technically we get something new? Sweet! Two good games!
>>736990143If you watch Crowbcat's latest video, he has interview clips from the developers who confirm that the restrictive camera and the inability to see every enemy at all times were completely intentional to heighten tension.
>>736990132No, RE4 is a timeless work of ludo art but yes it's also a product of a (better) time.The remake didn't have any care put it into, by it's very nature of "remake" it tells you right away that's it's a cheap cash grab for Crapcom or else it wouldn't have been made.Nu-gamer goycattle lap it up though which is my these games can sell millions even though they're not very good to more enlightened peoples.
>>736990210>The Dead Rising 4 vs 1 comparison was topical while this video is 2 fucking years too late and everybody talked how shit the remake is.It's never too late to shit on overrated games.
>>736990143nta but i had the exact opposite feeling, to each their own
fpbp>>736985423dirty street shitting pajeet phoneposters like you have completely ruined this board
>>736985423The people who do like it are normies.The people who don't like it a perma nogames neckbeards who spend all day playing hentai doujin games. So I think the normies win this one.
>>736990292>Two good games!Yes, that's why I said the remake is supplementary. It doesn't overshadow the OG but it's still a fun game regardless. Just overrated.
>>736990319>It's never too late to shit on overrated games.Then he should shit on the original RE4 because I fucking hate both versions of the game. Remake had the chance to make the real RE4. Hookman version or whatever the fuck that actually feels like Resident Evil. And they wasted it on making RE2make with shitty RE4 style QTE attacks and 3make's parry/dodge.
>>736985423I was a "yeah, OG RE4 was way better" guy but OG RE4 fans have become such annoying faggots I'm going to be even more smug and turn into a "yeah, OG RE4 killed RE and turned it into action slop".
>>736990315what? OG Remake is considered one of the best games of all time?
>>736990303>and the inability to see every enemy at all times were completely intentional to heighten tension.this is good for a crowd of threats methodically approaching you from different angles but less so for something screeching attack patterns directly behind you and the least risky option becomes continuing to cheese it with kiting instead of risking a stray hit when you stop to turn around.
>>736986095>generic_UE5_room_demo_15640843.jpg
>>736990435REmake is fucking dogshit.
>>736990435no it completely ruined the aesthetic
>>736990435You can't blow off zombie arms when the fucking PS1 was capable of doing it. It's a terrible remake.
>>736990416>video starts off with a dev commentary highlighting the importance of switching up the formula >leads on to criticizing the remake for being a rehashIf you had any media comprehension whatsoever you would know he doesn't agree with you OG RE purist types, so why would he ever shit on OG RE4? The underlying message of the video is that new and innovative = good, rehash = bad.
>>736989832He did it with the unupgraded handgun AND having likely completed this section over a dozen times. He knows the map layout and how the encounter plays out. Anyone who reaches this point for the first time (without playing 5 or 6 either) will absolutely not deal with this the same way.
>just reinstalled Resident Evil 4 on the Deck with the HD Project mod>new video drops and /v/ is talking about it againWhat a happy little coincidence.This game is timeless.
>>736989993> Could you please elaborate too on how playing as Ada gives him a better gig?Because now, instead of being some generic monster that Leon fights to kill the monotony in the caves, he gets some lore and makes use of Salazar's second-hand man who got wasted in the original. Plus it's a better boss fight than the original, too. :)>And you're happy that now they're even bigger jokes?By making them harder and doing more than the originals? >That something sucked because it added pointless meandering that disrupted the flow of the game and its pacing.How does something that is completely optional cut disrupt the flow of the game and its pacing? Oh right, I'm talking to a retard.>The reason that you Oh no, they upgraded the gameplay, bosses, pacing, and all-around replayability, but they took our doors... are you going to cry about the color yellow too like a retard? >You find knives everywhere. The enemy corpses drop knives.But it's not guaranteed. You can find ammo everywhere. The enemy corpses drops ammo. But you can't reliably expect every other enemy to drop ammo. >It's a literal upgrade you get for engaging with the pointless side quest system and you have conceded that its not even on every gun. Because RE4R paid more attention to balance, unlike the original. lol
>>736989465It doesn't make the game look particularly in depth if the mastery of it is realising you can just shoot enemies in the leg over and over. Especially that's something any veteran RE player is going to know already.
The remake is more fun to play. Even if you concede in every other aspect of both games the remake wins just because of that. OG has tank controls and its too easy.
the only games that should be remade are shit onesthe kind of games where it's like 'hey, we had a good idea here but we executed it poorly'games like hydrophobia, clive barker's jericho, bionic commando or dark void
>>736990548lmao
>>736990796It's funny how you retards pull this card that you kind of have to be in the know to know what you're doing, when by the time you reach the village proper, you will have already known how overpowered limb shots are by taking out the first few enemies the game throws at you. It's an incredibly easy game that does not require mastery.
>>736989918The only people who think og is better are nostalgiafaggots. I played the og whrn it came out and the remake is much more fun to play.
>>736990796Yup, it's like showing a clip of repeatedly parrying Gwyn and then try to portray Dark Souls as a game for babbies. I don't understand what people get out of being disingenuous like this. Look up any blind playthrough of RE4 on youtube, and they invariably panic when they reach the village.
Why does the rifle do like double the damage of a shotgun at infinite range for less gunpowder
>>736990967Dark Souls is another one of those games that people now happily shit on for being 'easy' since they've gotten used to harder games.
>>736990624>dev commentary highlighting the importance of switching up the formulaThe developers failed at their fucking jobs, both for original and remake.>new and innovativeRE4 did nothing new for the RE formula. RE3 even Code Veronica already did what RE4 did by being more linear and more action focused. All they did was slap a camera behind Leon's back and copy what other games before RE4 had already done. You have to not have played any fucking video game before 2004 to think RE4 did anything innovative. If you think cramming what everybody else did at once is innovation, then congratulations you dense fuck, Crimson Desert is the most innovative game ever made.RE4 did fucking nothing for games as a whole other than popularizing the fucking dogshit camera angle that's up the player character's ass.RE4 faggots need to get some fucking perspective if they are going to claim RE4 is new and innovative, and complain how RE4make copied TLOU's shitty stealth and knife durability.
>>736988694>But people praising the remake don't try to claim the original is bad.no one is talking about or saying this, what you described does happen though. kinda weird point to make >the effort and soul that went into the remakethe topic is exactly that the remake is lacking in soul and effort. crowbcat pointed that out with video proof and got shills attacking him
>>736990862Let me tell you a couple of three things. First, the village is literally the first level of the game, and second, that clip is a bad demonstration of your point, since the guy almost takes a hit when he throws the grenade and just got lucky, and third, this is clearly not a first-time player, since he knows ahead of time where the enemies spawn from. This is weak.
It's pretty good, not as good as the original but a good remake. I don't understand why someone would hate it.
>>736990624>The underlying message of the video is that new and innovative = good, rehash = bad.And they innovated by making the best possible version of RE4. And a lot of you retards take it seriously because you make these games your identity, and when the better version comes out, you take it seriously because it's your identity. Why do you think crowbcat and electric underground make faggy videos complaining about remakes when everyone knows they're better? Because they found an audience of retards who want to hear what they are told.
>>736990913>the only games that should be remade are shit onesI generally agree, maybe not necessarily shit but really old ones like The Ninja Warriors that now as The Ninja Saviors: Return of the Warriors has insanely higher quality sprite work, 16:9 ratio for modern monitors, and new characters. I'm also okay with the FF7 "remakes" since they're fanfiction being marketed as being different games that don't supplant the original.
>>736990967This exactly
>>736988839parrying is the new QTE in demake4
>>736991089Indeed. These games have learning curves, but some people like to pretend they don't. I don't know if they're tryhard "I was always gud", or if they are unable to remember anything further back than last week. Probably a combination of both, regardless, it's autistic.
>>736990949It's a zombie game. Most people's first instinct is to spam headshots. And the player has like 5 encounters before this. The average person probably hasn't even found out you can roundhouse yet.It's not some ultra difficult game, but you hold the average gamer in way higher esteem than you ought to. You might as well post a SM64 speedrun to show how easy it is.
>>736985423One of the most overrated games of all time.
Putting RE4 on the same level as Dark Souls is pretty funny considering RE4 being easy as hell is common knowledge. Code Veronica is harder than RE4, you weak sisters.
>>736990860>how does playing as Ada give him a better gig?>he gets some loreOh nice, some more pointless flavor text in my shooter game. Now that really changes everything!>Plus it's a better boss fight than the original, tooWe've already went over this. U-3 in the original is a boss fight that requires strategy, timing, and positioning. U-3 in Separate Ways is literally a circle you endlessly shimmy around knocking down his health like a raid boss in an MMO. >By making them harder Once again for everyone in the crowd, you can turn while moving in the remake. These boss fights were not designed to accommodate that. It's literally just like Twin Snakes, but mongoloids like you won't admit it. >How does something that is completely optional cut disrupt the flow of the game and its pacing?Because you're at a disadvantage if you don't do the quests. The game is fucking easy regardless, but the game is designed to punish you if you don't waste your time. The side quests are also only just half of the issue. They ruined the lake section with pointless padding for no reason, because some designer decided that they needed to make up for the removal of U-3 and the laser room with an RE5-style treasure hunt. The remake wasn't designed by RE4 devs — it was designed by RE5 devs — and it shows.
>>736990860>>736991435>Oh no, they upgraded the gameplay, bosses, pacing, and all-around replayability, You still haven't actually explained how they "upgraded" any of those things, and yet you keep repeating yourself like an AI. >But it's not guaranteedRE4 was designed around dynamic difficulty. In the remake this was turned up to 11. If you run out of knives, there is a significant chance you will find another knife on the next enemy you kill or the next barrel you destroy.>Because RE4R paid more attention to balance, unlike the original. lolIt's literally a cosmetic/UI change, it has nothing to do with balance. The laser didn't enhance damage, it only added more immersion because it's *physically* an object in the game's world. This is why Dead Space also included laser sights and ammo counters, it was derivative of that same design philosophy. In the remake it is a balance change, because by removing the laser sight, they had to give the player an incentive to earn it, so they added retarded crap like crit boosts and additional accuracy multipliers if you buy it.
>>736991196It's not a QTE if it's in gameplay.
>>736991104It's a question whether this is possible in the remake. I've already seen from playing both and comparing them myself and the remake is less jank-prone.
>>736991463>It's literally a cosmetic/UI change, it has nothing to do with balance. The laser didn't enhance damage, it only added more immersion because it's *physically* an object in the game's world. This is why Dead Space also included laser sights and ammo counters, it was derivative of that same design philosophy. >In the remake it is a balance change, because by removing the laser sight, they had to give the player an incentive to earn it, so they added retarded crap like crit boosts and additional accuracy multipliers if you buy it.I could've worded that better, but I think I've made my case. The remake turned the laser sight into a balance issue by removing it and giving it additional bonuses in gameplay, when in the original RE4 it was only visual flair to give the player a diegetic crosshair that actually made sense in-universe, rather than existing outside of it in the HUD overlay. This is one of the reasons why OG RE4 was so much more immersive. The UI design itself was so visually unique and had so much character that was stripped when the remake forced the RE2R UI on it for the sake of uniformity across all existing Capcom properties. The remake is fun, but it's a product. It's not RE4.
>>736991496context sensitive input doesn't have to be in cutscene for it to be QTE. you are required to parry, failing to do so will result in death, can happen in multiple occasions even on standard
>>736991376>Putting RE4 on the same level as Dark Souls is pretty funnyNobody here is doing that.
>>736991496Are you saying outside of cutscenes? OG RE4 has those, like with the Krauser fight.
>>736985423Yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcJGvS4f-HQ
>>736991650Not him but doesn't the E part of QTE stand for Event, which definitionally means it's separate from the regular game? If we start saying parrying is a QTE then Sekiro is all QTEs and Dark Souls dodges are QTEs and Mario jumps are QTEs etc.
OG trannies are STILL seething over the remake? Don't these losers have anything better to do? Do they even play games?
>>736991539>It's a question whether this is possible in the remake.Most remake detractors acknowledge that it's overall a harder game, and usually complain about the inconsistent enemy staggering. Even Crowbcat's video highlights this issue.>the remake is less jank-prone.Enemies behaving consistently is the opposite of jank.The clip simply shows a returning player who knows how the game works mechanically. Most great games can be cheesed by veteran players.
>>736991730>Not him but doesn't the E part of QTE stand for Event, which definitionally means it's separate from the regular game?no, QTE is just a brief button prompt you press for the game to continue smoothly. not pressing it usually has dire consequences.
>>736991775I'm not still seething, I am seething once more. An important distinction.
>>736991828If the game can be cheesed so effortlessly then it's not a good game and poorly designed.
>>736987083>I stil think its mere existence is an insult to the originalGod this is pathetic.
>>736991775>Zoomer trannies are STILL seething over the OG? Don't these losers have anything better to do? Do they even play games?ftfy
>>736991903I'm done. You're posting the same clips over and over, and I keep saying that nobody plays like this their first playthrough and that there's a learning curve, and you proceed to act willfully obtuse once more. Have a nice day.
>>736985423It's not even slightly bad
>>736991903>If the game can be cheesed so effortlessly then it's not a good game and poorly designed.Well said, the remake's "mash LB" design is pretty damn shit.
>>736991903lmao what a retarded fucking post
>>736985423The camera sucks ass and the mouse aiming is all fucked upIt's like they designed it for a phone first then ported it over
crowbcuck's shills are going crazy now that his video got age-restricted
>>736991435>U-3 in the original is a boss fight that requires strategy, timing, and positioning.No, the original U-3 boss was saddled with a boring section where you had to shoot lights and QTE to continue, followed by a standard "unload here" boss. Now in the remake, he's faster, hits harder, leaves litle landmines and faster projectiles, plus a form that requires precise shooting. >nce again for everyone in the crowd, you can turn while moving in the remake.Cool; the remakes mops the floor with the original's bosses.>Because you're at a disadvantage if you don't do the quests. Not at all, the only time you will be at a disadvantage is in a professional setting where every peseta is life or death. >They ruined the lake section with pointless padding for no reason, because some designer decided that they needed to make up for the removal of U-3 and the laser room with an RE5-style treasure hunt. The remake wasn't designed by RE4 devs — it was designed by RE5 devs — and it showsGood on the devs for paying tribute to another game that's better than 4. Of course, a contrarian such as yourself would shit his pants. >If you run out of knives, there is a significant chance you will find another knife on the next enemy you kill or the next barrel you destroy.So in other words, it's up to chance? Cool, thank you for reiterating what I said. >It's literally a cosmetic/UI change, it has nothing to do with balance.Spoken like someone who never played the remake. If the Blacktail had the laser sight, then there would be no reason to even use the other guns because of how fucking good it is. So they balance it out so as to give you a reason to even try the other guns. >I could've worded that better, but I think I've made my case.Your case was dead on arrival when you tried to make an argument for RE4's dogshit bosses lmao
>>736991924If caring about artistic integrity makes me pathetic, then so be it.
>>736985942>White whore making a living out of Jap incels because in her homeland shes a 6/10
>>736991998>>736992020>>736992059So, if the LGBT posters are to be correct, the only way to enjoy RE4... is to be really bad at video games because otherwise the second you realize how easy the game is, it loses its luster FAST.
>>736991851So if RE4make didn't show the button prompt (which it honestly doesn't have to since that button always deflects anyways) it would no longer be a QTE?There was also footage in the Crowbcat video where the prompt appeared for a brief moment as the chainsaw guy was attacking, but Leon moved away from him and it disappeared and the attack whiffed. Since Leon didn't press the button prompt and it didn't have any consequences does that mean it's not a QTE?QTE to me always meant changing a button to do something different from what it usually does for a limited time frame like a cutscene.
>>736989282every re4 bandwagoner doesn't even know about leg stuns or crowd control it's aways shoot head, kick, muhknife
Artistic integrity? In Resident Evil? LMAO
>>736991775What does the tranny frog have to do with that?
>>736991998>I'm le jheckin done!Shut up, loser. You seethe about the remake on a daily basis. It's pathetic.
>>736992081>Now in the remake, he's faster, hits harder, leaves litle landmines and faster projectiles, plus a form that requires precise shooting. The arena you fight him in is LITERALLY a circle. That's why he has to have landmines and projectiles, because the level is literally an arena for a raid boss. It literally plays like a boss from FFXIV or Fallout 76. https://youtu.be/Did-nWx_yQEIn the original, you had to shoot switches to drop doors that entrap him. The arena is claustrophobic and he gets far closer to you. This is good, because the game is meant to frighten you. It's a horror game.https://youtu.be/QuHuS3sttgs>Not at all, the only time you will be at a disadvantage is in a professional setting where every peseta is life or death. Got it, you don't know what "disadvantage" means. >Good on the devs for paying tribute to another game that's better than 4It's better than the remake, I'll give you that.>So in other words, it's up to chance? Cool, thank you for reiterating what I said. Are you ESL? That's literally not what I said. I said that the probability is so high due to RE4's dynamic difficulty that it's almost a complete certainty that you will find a knife on the next ganado you kill. That's not "up to chance", or at least not what is commonly meant by the phrase. "Up to chance" implies an equal probability. It's anything but equal.>If the Blacktail had the laser sight, then there would be no reason to even use the other guns because of how fucking good it isThe Blacktail is the last pistol you can buy in the game, so that's not even a problem. They already nerfed it in the remake regardless. >Your case was dead on arrival when you tried to make an argument for RE4's dogshit bosses lmaoAnd yet, you're here defending the remake's bosses, when the remake does nothing except trivialize them even further.
>>736992642>And yet, you're here defending the remake's bosses, when the remake does nothing except trivialize them even further.NTA but nearly every boss can be easily killed in the OG using your infinite knife with little issue. Play the games.
That's it. I'm going to refer to the remake as Resident Evil 4: The Twin Snakes every thread now.
>>736992760>NTA but nearly every boss can be easily killed in the OG using your infinite knife with little issue. NTA but you can't parry attacks using the knife in the original game, so you're wrong.
>>736992816The parries take effort and timing unlike the knife usage in the remake.
>>736992847>in the remakein the OG*
>>736992642>In the original, you had to shoot switches to drop doors that entrap him.Anon, that made the boss fight a joke. It’s on par with knifing the shit out of Krauser in fifty seconds or less. >It's better than the remake, I'll give you that.You can’t even make a good argument for the U3.>That's literally not what I said. I said that the probability is so high due to RE4's dynamic difficulty that it's almost a complete certainty that you will find a knife on the next ganado you kill.Except it’s much, much more complex than it was in the original. >They already nerfed it in the remake regardless.Because of how much better it is than everything else, and it still is if you know how to play without the laser.>when the remake does nothing except trivialize them even further.Explain.
>>736992847There is AFAIK, only a couple of attacks that you can parry in the original, and none of them have massive UI elements telling you to press LB.You can parry an arrow, but you have to get the timing right, even on lower difficulties. The remake increases the time window for parries depending on the difficulty you're on, so even normal gives you a second or two to parry arrows.
>>736992847>>736992908Lel, freudian slip
why is every single clip shitting on the original and praising the demake from the same area in the village which is the fucking starting level
This boss is so ass lmao https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bY0fymChKC0&pp=ygULUmU0IHUzIGJvc3M%3D
>>736993051Because the remake did a better job than the original and pointing that out really upsets people.
>>736992919>Anon, that made the boss fight a joke. How? It added to the atmosphere. It's a horror game. It adds tension to be trapped in small corners with monsters. >It’s on par with knifing the shit out of Krauser in fifty seconds or less. Something a) you're supposed to do, because Krauser is supposed to have a nifty shortcut for metagaming like that and b) you can also do that in the remake btw, because nothing has changed. The boss fights just got easier because you can look behind you, which is compounded by the fact you can parry, because now I can tilt the camera and spam LB instead of actually paying attention to audio cues.>Except it’s much, much more complex than it was in the original. HAHAHA what? How? >Because of how much better it is than everything else, and it still is if you know how to play without the laser.In the OG it's tied with the Red9 w/ stock, which does more DPS and thus conserves ammo better. But the remake nerfed that too.>Explain.Already have, and did it again in this post. Read what I have to say instead of huffing paint, ADHD-ridden mental midget.
>>736990949damn, this anon mastered the game 10 minutes in on release day in 2005.
>>736993138but it didnt?the entire areas is covered in random gore and the game throws one of the half plagas at you as the first enemythe og does it better cause that village is the furthest away from the plaga origin and the people were only recently infected so the villagers are still mostly human and actually talk to each other the pacing and wordbuilding is just atrocious in the demake
>>736993056Bro, 3 years ago before the DLC people were praising this fight, it was always ass, it was a stupid "press the buttom" and run away till you can fight the boss, BUT WHEN you can fight the boss he stay 90% of the time underground, yeah the design is 11/10 but its just that, a cool design thrown in a shit bossfight.
demake defenders are tourists and trolls who don't even play games, stop wasting your time arguing with themthese retards think watching a let's play on youtube is enough to make you a fan
>>736992146>So if RE4make didn't show the button prompt (which it honestly doesn't have to since that button always deflects anyways) it would no longer be a QTE?it'll fool retards into thinking the QTE is not a QTE. just like the rail sections in the new ninja gaiden 4 which are QTE slop masked as normal gameplay.
The villagers actually TALK to each other in the original because they are HUMANS not ZOMBIES. This was a major thing for RE4 because it was the first game to depart from featuring stereotypical zombies as villains. The remake makes them mostly silent aside from weird groans, likely so they could shave some money off the voice acting budget to cover all the expenses of the store-bought assets.
I was just showing emulated Blooborne in 4k to a friend and he said: "looks sick, can't wait for the to remake this game"He hasn't played the originalHe's a PC gamerGamers are fucking retarded
>>736992816you can parry thrown axes
>>736992146>>736991851>>736991730>>736991496>>736991650>>736991730This discussion is utterly stupid, comparing QUICK TIME EVENTS with contextual buttom press during gameplay (THAT IS NOT mandatory) is pointless, if you open this sugestion we can open the sugestion that games are just turn-based games since the enemies are programed to have cooldowns on attacks and actions at the same time characters have recovery time after shooting a weapon or doing a action, JUST STOP being retarded.
>>736992984Using that term wrong.
>>736993138That didn't answer the question.
>>736993224>How? It added to the atmosphere. It's a horror game. It adds tension to be trapped in small corners with monsters.The atmosphere died when Leon was doing quips and high jump kicks and suplexing scary monks. Doubly so for an enemy that’s easily to beat like the U3.>The boss fights just got easier because you can look behind you, which is compounded by the fact you can parryYou’re telling me I can look behind me AND I get more interactions out of the bosses than I could in the original? God, no wonder the remake is the definitive RE4, the devs weren’t playing around.>HAHAHA what? How?How not? It’s a game from 2023 vs 2005.>But the remake nerfed that too.Good call, the remake shouldn’t be easy as shit like the original.>Read what I have to say instead of huffing paintBut you’re full of shit tho. And a tranny who watches ecelebs. :/
I was streaming emulated Bloodborne in 4k to a friend and the first thing he said is>"can't wait for them to remake this game" And I rebuked "it's not even 10 years old and I'm playing in 4k, dude">"yeah but it needs a rework"and when I asked why he just kept repeating "it needs a rework"Gamers are retarded
>>736993408My retarded friend once shat on me for liking 6th gen games like Persona 3, Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil 4. I was laughing my ass off when he played all three of their remakes, and was telling me how great these games are. I turned to him and asked him why he doesn't play Persona 4, Silent Hill 3, or Resident Evil 5 now. They're basically more of the same. He turned to me and said that he's waiting for their remakes. It was at that point where I got this overwhelming sinking feeling, I legitimately got worried about the state of games if companies are cashing in on these mongoloids. Normies really are cattle.
>>736993479what your friend means is it needs re-hype so a lot of of people play it at the same time so he can be part of a community.
>>736992816You might need to use the handgun for environmental stuff(?), but aside from forced sections you can do a knife only run. I've done it myself on professional, can't remember any enemies that are impossible to get past without the knife but maybe there's something.
>>736993275>the entire areas is covered in random goreJust like the original.>and the game throws one of the half plagas at you as the first enemyAnd it was revolting and terrifying.>the og does it better cause that village is the furthest away from the plaga origin and the people were only recently infected so the villagers are still mostly human and actually talk to each otherMostly human? Anon, they’re literal give mind bugs at that point. Te only reason why the village fight ends is because they’re all called up.
>>736985423I'm too much of a pussy to play any of the Resident Evil games
FUCK MY SISTER
>>736993479Why do you keep pressing your friends to do shit that YOU know that they don't want to do, why you guys can't act like normal humans and just recommend, if people don't want just move on, I have ball and gun gamers that only watch slops, sometimes they want recommendations of what to play and watch and I always recommend what is the new modern slop because its what they want or maybe recommend something more spicy but will not lose time argumenting, they don't want to play the classics or watch the classics.
>>736985423Not necessarily bad it's just inferior to the original.
>>736988616You know what Super Mario Bros needs? Mario should be able to hang from corners. Why can't he do this? I can do that in real life.
>>736993673OG RE4 is up your alley, it’s more cheesy action and quips than horror.
>>736993470>The atmosphere died when Leon was doing quips and high jump kicks and suplexing scary monks. First of all, he does that in the remake too. Play the fucking games.Second of all, he quips LESS in the original than he does in the remake, because Leon's flavor voice lines are restricted to cinematics and comms calls in the original. They're are noticeably absent from actual gameplay with the single exception of giving commands to Ashley.>You’re telling me I can look behind me AND I get more interactions out of the bosses than I could in the original? Those "interactions" make the game easier, not harder. The game is literally telling you press LB or RT to win. You can't even maintain consistency with your arguments. How much are you getting paid for this? Can you show me a cupcake recipe?>How not? It’s a game from 2023 vs 2005.Is this year's Call of Duty more mechanically complex than the RE4 remake? After all, it came out later. >Good call, the remake shouldn’t be easy as shit like the original.Instead, the remake buffed the knife, one of the first weapons you get in the game. >But you’re full of shit tho. And a tranny who watches ecelebs. :/I'd love for a smooth-brained ESL cockroach like yourself to actually attempt to dismantle everything he said. That would really make my day.
>>736993673Start with RE7
>>736990949I still never shoot any villager below the head to this day.
Capcom hired this man.
>>736993673Play og re4, it's casual friendly and can be played with one hand or while watching tiktok.
>>736993753>First of all, he does that in the remake too. Play the fucking games.I did, why do you think I prefer the remake over the original? It’s funny because this board shits on the remake for being to serious, now it’s quippier than the original? Can’t you trannies make up your mind?>Those "interactions" make the game easier, not harder. They make them more fun, and the game is still much harder than what ever the original could muster on professional.>Instead, the remake buffed the knife, one of the first weapons you get in the game.They bugged it by making it finite, expensive to upgrade and upkeep. But they did give us the option of a variety of knifes, from combat to Krauser’s to the original. Again, better than the remake.>I'd love for a smooth-brained ESL cockroach like yourself to actually attempt to dismantle everything he said. Why would I want to listen to some eceleb grifter when I’ve been playing RE4 on GameCube, PS2, Wii, PS3, and Switch? I’ve come to my own conclusions after playing that game to death to point I must have beaten it thirty times. You can listen to a grifter, cut your cock off and call yourself a woman, that’s your life. I find it personally revolting, but that’s your life, I’ll just stick to what I know through experience.
OG > RemakeSimple as.
>>736994095>They bugged it by making it finite, expensive to upgrade and upkeepYou literally get one knife for every ganado you kill when you run out of them thanks to again, the dynamic difficulty which RE4R is built around.>You can listen to a grifter, cut your cock off and call yourself a woman, that’s your life.>Instead, my life is dedicated to defending a low-effort cash grab from a company that advertises itself and its games with literally loonie troons The irony is lost on you, holy shit.
>>736994095>It's harder...>Why? >It's better...>Why?>It's more fun...>Why?This discussion really is on a one-way ticket to nowheresville.
>>736985423It really is, yes.
>>736987083>I stil think its mere existence is an insult to the originalJesus christ
>>736985691Why do you care so much that he doesn't like a game that you like?
>>736994382This, I'm here lurking just to laught at the stupidity of arguments of both side, protecting their honor for which game is the 9.5 and which one is a 10 but pretending that one of them is a 5 because the other is better.
>>736994249>You literally get one knife for every ganado you kill when you run out of them thanks to again, the dynamic difficulty which RE4R is built around.Never happened to me. I get them sporadically.The irony of you looking up more eceleb troons as some kind of own is not lost on me. Lol
What's this desperate attempt to paint the original game as being easy? Anyone who's played it already it's got its challenges, and it's sold obscene amounts, so that's not a small population.
>>736986895Maybe he's just amused by everybody dickriding the game and thought he'd have some fun with it
>>736994502Anyone who's played it already knows* Whoops.
Resident Evil 4 Remake was really good cause Ashley was sexy
>>736994502If you actually played the OG in any serious capacity then you wouldn't be asking that question.
>>736985423No it's fantastic. So is the original.
>>736989226>a grifter decided to stick his head out of this hole after the internet told him to fuck offIt's genuinely disturbing that you are angry about his opinion, and angry at the very idea that the remake might have problems.I see a lot of this. It's absolutely baffling.RE4 vs RE4R also comes up fairly frequently, so I don't think you're making the point you intended to.
>>736985423I think the combat is really good and fun. Killing ganados feels great.
>>736990060>Makes for a very tense experience when you have to dodge Verdugo's attacks from sound cues alone.Verdugo's attacks are telegraphed by giant QTE's that show up regardless of where Leon is facing.
I'm lucky enough to have never played RE4 (only RE ive tried is RE2 remake)After seeing the start of Crowbcats video I got the urge to finally try it and i decided to go with the original and holy fuck >the atmosphere>the music>the arcade style shooting>the QTE's>the sillyness/spooky ratioI played it for 6 hours yesterday, exploring everywhere and plan on hopefully finishing it today. Im up to the big cunt that turns into a centipede thingy In time I would like to try the remake but as it stands the original holds up extremely well to someone with 0 nostalgia for the series
>>736989516>momentum mechanicsThe time it takes him to stop changes depending on whether he's got his left leg in front or his right leg in front. That's not "mechanics", it's absolute retardation from developers who don't have a fucking clue how video game movement is supposed to work and sacrificed playability to be "cinematic"
>>736994702Nobody is claiming the remake doesn't have problems. Just that the problems listed are overexaggerated.
>agree with most of Crowbcat's criticisms>still love the remakeAm I alone here?
>>736994757Cool anon. Hope you have a good time
>>736994773>That's not "mechanics", it's absolute retardation from developers who don't have a fucking clue how video game movement is supposed to work and sacrificed playability to be "cinematic"I mean, the original gave us literal QTE cinematics and called it a day, and the remake said, “that’s fucking gay. Here, you’re actually fighting Krauser.”
>>736994702The remake does have problems, and they’re the areas that didn’t change. Namely the lake boss and the helicopter shootout section.
>>736985423RE4 is still a survival horror. RE5 and RE6 are literally just action 3rd person shooters akin to Gears of War.
>>736994669Thank you for highlighting my point
>>736994669It's not not that hard, but its easiness gets heavily overexaggerated. It's not like there's no challenge at all. It gets very easy when you've played the shit out of it and master the mechanics, but a lot of games do. You can easily get through RE1-3 without being hit once, including their remakes. Why is that suddenly a problem for RE4?Because people need excuses to tear it down so they can pretend the remake isn't garbage in every other respect, that's why.
>>736994817That's how I feel as well. Just cuz there is stuff to critique doesn't mean the game isn't fun.Some people really need to go back and replay the OG as well. Not because the OG is worse than you remember, but I think it gives you an appreciation for what changed in the remake rather than just hating it because it isn't exactly the same as you remember.
>>736994959The original game is embarrassingly easy. No need to get defensive.
>>736991903like dark souls?
>>736995020only if you play baby mode versions like ps2 or pc. it's really telling none of these webms are done on the original ntsc gamecube version.
>>736985653It saved it.
>>736985942>skortNo, he said downgrade. Can't you read?
>>736985768You are mentally ill. Everything about her is better in the Remake.
>>736994982>Because people need excuses to tear it downKind of like when people try to paint the remake as bad because of yellow paint or one bad voice actress. >>736994982Remake on pro still requires effort no matter how many times you've played.
>>736987989LMAO!Capcom not sending their best shills.
>>736995153>Remake on pro still requires effort no matter how many times you've played.True, replaying again after 4 months without unlockable weapons and its hard as shit, meanwhile I replayed RE4 OG after 10 years and had only deaths to QTE just to see the death scenes, its funny how the game challenge goes away the moment you get the Striker, you literally can juggle 30 enemies on the screen without any danger of being hit.
>>736987989LMAO!Capcom not sending their best shills.>>736989282There it is, he posted it again.
>>736985423It's nowhere near as good as the OG RE4. It's not bad.
>>736985423>is one of the best games of all time AGAIN bad because /v/ hates pretty much any remake everno retard
Is everyone forgetting the yellow paint? The cut content?
>>736995580more was added than removed
>>736988616you have correctly identified the uncslop yet you still pander to their sensibilitiesjust enjoy video games. nothing makes them seethe harder.
buy an ad
>>736995681Why would they?You're here for free.
what are the best mods for a second playthrough? i've only know the one that disables yellow paint and the ada voice replacer
>>736995613NOTHING was added.
>>736996194dude they gave the merchant 40 sidequests where you have to shoot more blue medallions and collect rat tails you're just lying
>>736996151Ashley and Ada mods
>>736995057the shitcube version is piss easy too, there's no meaningful difference, the game showers you in ammo
>>736985423Artistically, yes, but the gameplay changes and challenge it introduces make it extremely fun. I genuinely cannot understand how people call this a 10/10 without playing the original first because you don't truly get to appreciate how much it shifts up gears in challenge and chaos to make the frantic combat of the original go into overdrive.I just wish you could choose Pro on a first playthrough because that's definitely the best and intended way to play it in my eyes.
The original game is so much better at everything it does, EXCEPT being a homogenous product that's easy to swallow down, a product all ages can enjoy.The original game created beautiful tension, and the release of that tension is where the fun happens. The creative work to establish a new genre is truly inspired.The remake breaks tension constantly and introduces multiple mechanics to enforce that broken tension. It's nothing but yet another modern game. Smooth, uniform, without bite, without soul.
>>736985423Yes.Gaming in general is THAT fucking bad. Hope that this is a wake up call to all the zoomers that ain't FUCKING NIGGERS when it comes to gaming.
>>736999880RE4's gameplay doesn't create a smidgeon of tension after your very first Ganado roundhouse kick, outside of a few select encounters like the introduction to Garradores and Novistadores, and Regeneradores as a whole, this has literally been a recurring complaint since the game launched and most people either liked the new action arcadey spin on the gameplay or claimed it ruined it and the franchise in turn, but then again you'd have to be there to know that instead of parroting Youtuber opinions.
>>736985942enhanced b a l l i s t i c s
As someone who has never played the original I only recently played the remake and was left very disappointed. I don't know what people see in this game. For the most part it felt like I was playing a game assembled in a factory and the only time I enjoyed myself was in the village area. After that the quality of the aesthetics dropped dramatically. I was repulsed by everything and got annoyed by the gameplay which I found simplistic and not in a way that I could enjoy like in F.E.A.R. or Bloodborne. 4/10 game for me.
>>737000118RE4's gameplay has tension if you were 12 fucking years old and played it back then, and this is the problem of all of these motherfuckers that praise RE4 to the high heavens share, while also failing to recognize RE4 as an action game with shit writing that was cobbled together after the real Resident Evil 4 got scrapped because Mikami is a coward that think REmake failed because people got sick of RE and not because it was stuck on the fucking gamecube. Which the remake does not fucking fix other than making levels darker so you have to bump the gamma up to actually see without bitching about it as these fucking idiots do with the shitty audio balance.There was a dude that argued that doctor salvatore was scarier in the original because he was a normal ganado with a bag on his head compared to mr. googly eyes in the remake with zero fucking irony.Motherfuckers, grow the fuck up. Neither are scary. Leatherface and many masked slasher killers were as blase as zombies even in fucking 2005 to the point people watched them not to get scared but to see them kill dipshit teenagers that had the gall to be horny.
>>736999880>>737000030The OG has terrible game play compared to the remake.
>>737000719Subhuman
>>736985423its not resident evil 2 demake levels where every enemy can eat all your ammo to die still have the shit demake gunplay zoom reticle for more dps>>737000584its more funny seeing all that "horror development" when the enemy is Don Paco even with the accurate language voice of demake and the behind you moron line the shit requiem game about zombies doing more shit its better way or just bows anyway resident evil its a hollow game series due to retarded devs not knowing to balance action,horror cheesines and their autistic jap ideas
>see people calling remake shills "brown" and start wondering why>investigate a little>most people I see fervently defending the remake are, indeed, from third world shitholesWhat the fuck lmao what causes this?
>>737003646It's impressive how the first video literally has no words and it's just a bunch of clips showing the gameplay and the cutscenes and these paid subhumans still lost their fucking minds over it
>>737003743IntelligenceSony has a strong presence in middle eastern shitholes and poor peopleIntelligenceSeeiing indians and arabs acting like american zoomers is revolting. We need to start killing them in-game
>>737003743The opposite is true althougheverbeit?
>>737003886>althougheverbeitIrony poised zoomer post number 32456791547543875198
>>736986086Do you think once you hit 30 your interests magically morph into watching construction workers and hitting your wife?
>>736985423It's a fine remake, it was just really unnecessary since the original with mods still holds up perfectly well and they neutered the humor.
>>737004152My money my rules bitch
If you are a zoomer and you praise RE4 demake, you are a cUck. Your life is shit. Bo0mers ruined your future. So instead of playing actual good games because your mind is too small and retarded to actually enjoy them, you settle for homogenized slop that has no soul, passion, creativity, love, or intelligence put into it. The Capcom shills are wrong. Z0omers are wrong. RE4 demake is not only the worst game in the series, but it is genuinely one of the games that truly shows how fucked we are as a civilization and a species. I hate all of you so much and time will prove me right. Pic unrelated.
>>736995153>Remake on pro still requires effort no matter how many times you've played.Only because they try to force engagement with the parry by making your movement and your guns terrible.I enjoy games that are hard but fluid and responsive. Difficulty achieved by downgrading a responsive game into one with delayed movement, inconsistent "momentum" on animations, and inaccurate guns with no stopping power and an inconsistent stun, just feels dishonest to me.I don't like it when games are too easy, but good controls are very important and RE4R doesn't have them.
>>736991903>if you use the controller to move out of the way of enemies they can't hit youholy fuck get this guy into harvard
>>736985942not really. the face model is a mediocre gravure type of girl that clearly had some surgery done to look like a plastic korean slut. i can guarantee she would give you little goblins if you were to breed with her. original ashley looks goofy cute instead of this slutty vibe. its just wrong, not worth protecting. and that is just from a design point of view, gameplay wise its objectively worse and a downgrade. if it werent for you coomers and countless SFMs, she'd be a footnote in videogame history. porn once again dictates what your tiny monkey brain thinks is important
>>736995629>just enjoy video games. nothing makes them seethe harder.That's still not as hard as the seethe generated by saying "The remake is bad", as evidenced by the aggressive shaming this guy's video received and how insanely mad anons always get when I say it in these threads.
>>737003646He's right, the whole of the second video just screams "I'm butthurt I got some backlash so I'm gonna double down"
>>736986867>She went from mildly annoying bratthats the point
>>737000118>RE4's gameplay doesn't create a smidgeon of tension after your very first Ganado roundhouse kickLaughable hyperbole. Unless you really want to tell me you didn't get hit by them a single time after that.
>>737004056>act like a retard and strafe right into his charge attackvs>master the game after many hours of learning mechanics and enemy behavior, and, crucially, actually attempt to dodge the attacksDishonest.
>>736991903>If the game can be cheesed so effortlessly then it's not a good game and poorly designed.It's funny how nobody cared it was easy until the remake came out, then everyone stopped singing its praises so they could act like it was always complete dogshit. Just like when the Silent Hill 2 remake came out. Just like when Silent Hill F came out.You regularly see webms of people dunking on Dark Souls/Elden Ring bosses at level 1 and dancing just out of the range of extremely telegraphed attacks, but when that happens it's because the game is a "masterpiece" and "so deep"But now that the dogshit RE4 remake needs to be praised, but it has nothing at all going for it except the fact that it nerfed Leon so hard it became "difficult", suddenly it's a bad thing that games can be learned to the point of triviality.It's all so dishonest.
>>737004632Doubling down on being correct is based.
remakefags - this is the gameplay you're defending, shit is like a looney tunes cartoon
>>736985423Yeah but.. if we're being real here, this is just a cash-in, this is not a legitimate artistic effort. I mean I understand you are a resident evil fan now, so you must love the franchise because you want to be part of the cool thing nowadays, but if we're being really really honest, these games aren't really made for the love of video-games, it is just a Hollywood modernization of a classic, a quick bite, a McDonald's order that everyone realistically kind of forgot about after a few months, but nonetheless a great excuse for people to come together and pretend we all like the same thing and the same characters, pretend to care about the story and feel part of something.
>>737004809so charge attack cant be parried? but crowbcat said
>>736991698Original Kruser fight is literally a cutscene bossfight.>>736991851>>736993370When people complain about QTEs they're complaining about a game reducing itself to cutscenes with a button prompt. They're not complaining about any kind of reaction button press in a game.Really if you have any kind of fucking taste you should be able to grasp the distinction.
>>737005082Resident Evil was always a vidya series trying to be hollywood blockbusters. It was always the McDonalds of horror games.
Playing remake is depressing because nu ada looks like my taiwanese exI miss her...
>>737005016That looks great. Dude thought he had things planned only to get completely blindsided. Since when was horror about things working out without a hitch?
>>737004056>this caused boomers to shit and piss their pants
I'm glad I'm not mentally ill so I can enjoy both games.I think og is overall better btw before you start screeching about zoomers
>>736992640>Posting the same handful of clips to try and make the original look badCan't imagine the thought process of someone seething over a 20+ year old better game every day.
>>737005094Just walk two steps to the left nigger
>>737004984If you double down because you're passionate about something its based.If you double down because getting some pushback for once made you butthurt its cringe.He could have just let the first video speak for itself instead of making a compilation of streamers opinions on re4.
>>737005096>Original Kruser fight is literally a cutscene bossfight.There's an actual boss fight with him later. Did you even play the game?
>>737005096You do realize there's an actual Krauser fight in the original, right?
>>736987092>it doesn't deserve to be called Resident Evil let alone be treated as this infallible masterpiece that deserves to be put on a pedestali really enjoyed og re4, hated the remake AND i still agree with this
>>737005457so positioning instead of parrying ok concession accepted
>>737005630>If you double down because you're passionate about something its based.I think you're reading a lot into his intentions instead of just engaging with the video as it is.There's no reason to think he's not passionate.
>>736985423Judge for yourself. If you can't see it's shit then you deserve the slop being fed to you.
>>737005701uh oh mikami sisters??
>>737005816This shit is why I always stick to the default handgun.Every handgun should have been able to use the laser sight, its dumb.
>>737004938its just zoomer cope and nothing else if a game can be """cheesed""" by mastering its controls it factually is a masterpieceif after 1000 hours a game cant be mastered because of rng bullshit its just lazy game designhow is this even up for debate?
>>737005718I'll concede that it's ridiculous that you can parry any of his attacks, and being able to casually step out of the way of his heavily telegraphed lunge doesn't make it any better.
>>737005841What's your point with this? RE4, the fourth game in a series, took some cues from another game? Perhaps you'd like to put the actual games side by side to compare the similarities?
>>736985423No, it's just not as good as the original. It failed to remake the game and improve on it
>>736985423Not bad, but it's an average modern game based on something that was better.
>>737005816You can make a (retarded) argument for having inaccuracy in actual combat, but I don't know why the fuck they left the shooting gallery in the game if bullet trajectory is essentially random.They changed shit on a whim without giving the slightest thought to whether it fit with the rest of the pieces.If they were going to fuck with the gameplay so much, it would be a better if they rebuilt it from the ground up instead of doing this halfassed, butchered hybrid.
>>737005654>>737005658But we're not talking about that. We're talking about the QTE one.
>>737005892Nigger this shit is basic as fuck. It's not going to require 1000 hours of practice to master.
>>737006081The second Krauser fight is a real fight that also contains QTEs in it. Which is what that anon was talking about when he sought to clarify between cutscene QTEs and combat QTEs.You didn't play the game. Stop trying to talk about things you don't understand.
>>737004609>clearly had some surgery done to look like a plastic korean slutThis. She's bogged.
>>737005718What a stupid post parrying his shit once almost destroys the knife
>>737006192>The second Krauser fight is a real fight that also contains QTEs in itEven those are entering a cutscene.
>>736985423I just played Resident Evil 2 Remake and Leon's story took me like 5 hours.Are these games normally this short tf
>>736985423>play game>have fun with it and think it's a good game>all the other people who played it say the same thing>3 years later some retard eceleb tries to induce mass psychosis about how you actually never liked the game and it was always bad
yes, like every Crapcom games.
>>737006331>Even those are entering a cutscene.No, they are not.Play the fucking game or at least watch a damn Youtube video before you make a crusade out of shitting on it.
>>737006415>3 years later some retard eceleb tries to induce mass psychosis about how you actually never liked the game and it was always badDo you think every time someone expresses an opinion it is an attempt to change yours? Are you so at risk of having your opinions retroactively changed by ecelebs?
>>737006415It was always bad. You got brainwashed by people that don't like video games and see them as experiences instead of seeing them for their gameplay and art elements.
>>737006415>all the other people who played it say the same thingthis is where your dishonesty set in, do better
>>737006706>he says in a thread full of retards trying to claim that their opinion is right and everyone else is wrong
>>737006626This is a cutscene.
>>737006724>>737006729You are mentally ill.
>>737006794>he says in a thread full of retards trying to claim that their opinion is right and everyone else is wrongSo you ARE saying that arguing a position is trying to gaslight you into thinking you never liked something at all.I've said all along that the extreme aversion to criticism here occurs because people are frightened to acknowledge flaws in case they stop liking the thing they feel hyped about. They just want to stick their head in the sand, so they become hostile to everyone who doesn't like what they do.Thank you for proving my theory.
>>737006363Yes thats normal for re games, short but tons of replay value.
>>736985916>>736986000Did your cortisol spike when crowbcat used a transwoman's stream to argue positively for his point of criticism? How about the pro-union part?
>>737006947There there are QTEs throughout the actual battle.PLAY THE GAME, WATCH A VIDEO FOR MORE THAN TWO SECONDS, OR SHUT UP
>>737006363You must remember its based on a ps1 game, most ps1 games were about that long or you need a 2nd disc
>>737007027Nigga how you gonna argue against the fact that I had fun playing the game? I know how you're gonna do it, you're gonna attack my character and blame me for having fun with it. That's the definition of gaslighting lmao.
>>737007065Okay I thought about it more and it took 8 hours according to steam, not the 5 hours the end screen told me. I'll replay the game on Claire's story which should maybe add another 5 hours and complete the game.When I think about it, this game is half the price of a regular AAA game so I guess it being half the length of a short one is okay. I got it on a 75% off sale on top of that too. >>737007151Are the later games a longer? Requiem is $120 AUD as opposed to RE2' costing $60 AUD without being on sale. I'd be pretty annoyed paying 120 bucks and finishing the game in like 10 hours.
>>736992146Are you talking about the wooden plank prompt on the cart ride? It's not a prompt to avoid the chainsaw attack.
It’s great, just not revolutionary like the original.
>>737007094>no not that krauser fight! the other one!>no not that part of that other krauser fight! the other part!The game is riddled with QTE cutscene sequences anon. In the end saying that some parts do reaction inputs the right way by maintaining normal gameplay doesn't change the fact that game also had outright QTE sequences.
>>737006959You are brown lol
>>737007306Theres also the B scenario for leon/claire which is harder as well as the extra modes. Add chasing better ranks for unlocks on top of that and you can get a lot of playtime out of 2.
>>737007306The longest is RE6 at around 30 hours4 and 5 are 15-20 hours but with bonus modes to pad a bit more3 OG and 1 is about the same, 3 remake is an insultingly short 3 and half hours (it was bundled with multiplayer slop)Requiem 12-18, not huge not too short
>>737007471You should read the reply chain that you've actually made. You've consistently misunderstood, amd when someone brings up and examples of what you appear to be referring to, you dismiss them and make excuses because they're from the original game. It's amazing that other anons are being as polite to you as they are.
>>737007471I never said it didn't have a lot of QTE cutscenes. You were the one pretending it didn't have any action ones.Don't pull "no not that one!" with me when you were the one lying, faggot.
>>737004670Fucking retard completely missing the point. The great ambiance RE4 has is completely undermined by how cool Leon is, how unthreatening the Ganados are and how arcadey the gameplay becomes as a result, where you start treating enemies less like actual threats and more like loot piñatas.
>>737007524>Theres also the B scenario for leon/claireNo there isn't. Don't get his hopes up.It's just the A scenario with a couple of minor changes.
>>737007824>I never said it didn't have a lot of QTE cutscenes. Then what was even the argument here? We're saying that QTE cutscenes are bad and it's acknowledged the original RE4 had them. To the point that even when naming a boss fight that did reaction inputs he still had a load of QTE cutscenes.
Besides the massive Ashley downgrade and removing some areas, I think it's a fun game on its own right
>>736988576fucking based
>>737007891Well yeah its not a proper b scenario but he isnt gonna know that
>>737007987>downgradeyou mean upgrade
>>736991903what is this turn based game
>>737007878lol don't talk to me about ambience when the remake systematically gutted most of it.The original RE4 is still very tense even with Leon's competence. Being rooted to the spot when shooting, and not being able to swing the camera freely or hit parry whenever something gets close helps a lot with that. Of course it loses some tension when you're going through it for the fifth time. All games do.At least it didn't have retarded devs trying to "improve it" but actually undermining the atmosphere every single chance they had.
>>736985423its my goty, thats for surehttps://streamable.com/66ddn6
>>736985916>>736986000Did your cortisol spike when crowbcat used a trans woman's stream to argue positively for his point of criticism? How about the pro-union part?
>>737008046Yeah, I guess he's not going to experience that disappointment.
>>737008143>being this desperate for a gotcha
You love to see OG troons losing.
>>737008293>still waging his gay little one sided warIt's just so sad.
>>737006959All of those positive reviews are wrong, faggot.
I used to like it, but thankfully my GOAT Crowbcat corrected me and showed me the error of my ways. I finally realise what nu-slop it really is.
>>737008293What do you think this is supposed to show?
>>736986086>owning them hardHis second video is much worse because the actual critcism is mixed in with lies trough omission and blatant dishonesty (ironic that in defending himself against claims of dishonesty he ends up being actually dishonest) his rep has never been more shot than thisThe remake in the end was worse than the original, huh
>removed laser sights from 95% of the weaponry when it was a cornerstone of the game's visual identity, replaced it with a sloppy crosshair instead that can outright fucking lie to you even in focus mode>made Leon control like a sack with bricks, even simply running around is not satisfying>gave enemies a ridiculous amount of hyperarmor but also introduced an obscenely overpowered nearly universal parry which means you can parryslop through entire hordes by doing literally the same kick routine like in original, it's just tied to a parry now>worse weapons, worse encounter and area design, terrible ambiance, godawful cutscene direction, no funny codec banter >Ashley can now randomly run in front of you and get killedIt was so mind numbingly terrible compared to the original it still surprises me.
The video is so disingenuous it's hilarious. Like 5 minutes into the video complaining about the chainsaw parry when in the OG a headshot into kick trivialized the whole game
>>736985423But why?
>>737008476>headshot into kick trivialized the whole gameSeems you didn't actually play it. Getting headshots consistently isn't easy.
>>737008396These are the funniest responses. Zoomies get really mad when their toys are criticized, but they can't actually refute any points made because their brains are atrophied. All they have left is a pale imitation of clever irony where they gently LARP as a version of their opposition they've invented. Suck a turd out of my ass.
>>737008089I'm not defending the Remake you utter cretin, I'm claiming that RE4 has always been criticized by being a mish-mash of tones and overall being a confusing mess that somehow manages to pull through and be great. The moment to moment gameplay in RE4 isn't fucking tense, Leon and the player are way too overpowered, the enemies too weak and the resources too plentiful. It's an arcade TPS through and through and makes all the effort gone into the amazing ambiance (of the Village at least) completely vanish in the blink of an eye. Why do you think Regenerators are so memorable? The gameplay MAKES YOU FEEL WEAK and helpless by having this massive fucking hulking enemy that doesn't react to your shots and just keeps closing in, Novistadors are amazing because Leon is actually paired against an enemy that can match his agility and for once in the entire game, POSE A THREAT TO YOU, but the game has to REALLY lock in to make you feel threatened or scared because otherwise you're blowing past hordes collecting loot and treasure. There's a reason why RE4 is viewed as the pinnacle of games with "THAT" part in it, because it's just tonal whiplash after tonal whiplash, and to claim RE4 ever had "beautiful tension" is such a ludicrous statement I'd only expect from a fucking tourist to the series like you evidently are.Fucking clenching up for a parry in Remake's Professional is infinitely more tense than anything the original Ganados can do to you.
It's a good game but not a good RE Remake
>>737008093kino
>>737007079wait are you saying crowbcat was.. woke all along?
>>737008093>That Dynamite shot parry into Jaguar Dash Cobra StrikeDayum.
Can you make a video essay on the value of eating your shit? I think I could be convinced to do it If so.
>>737008548Not only skill issue, but also a non-existent issue on PC
>>737008945>If you are really good at the game then it becomes trivialWhat the fuck are you even trying to say here?
>>736998670>Artistically, yesIt's an asset flip with literally no art direction and yellow paint everywhere.
>>736985423It’s pretty good, but it’s different from the original
Garbage video because it's just moronic nitpicks and comparisons instead of digging into the game design
easily the best RE game ever
>>736991903god the movement is so fucking good
>>737008439The RE4 remake feels like it was made by the kind of autists who only see things in terms of function rather than combination of function and form, so for example if they think music/ambience has no function then they won't see a reason to include itThe guy saying 'RESIDENT EVIL 4' has no function so they have no problem just omitting that and then trying to sell it back as DLC
>>736989559>I always find this clip funny because the dude just spent a whole clip and a grenade to kill a bunch of basic mooks when a handful of bullets, kicks, and knife attacks would've been a lot more efficient.And that's 90% of the point of survival horror.You COULD cut loose and start whipping grenades at random starter enemies, but then you'll be fucked when the the first boss rolls around and rips your asshole apart because you don't have enough high end damage to kill it before it kills you.
>>737011334>>736989559Honestly this one is even funnier in that regard.>>736994060
>>736992146nonononono...they just removed the QTE that the original had and replaced them with the QTE-lite which the parrying is in the remake. as you are literally forced to use it otherwise you will fail. it's not a cutscene QTE but it's contextual button prompt nevertheless and it sort of falls in to QTE definition hence it being QTE-lite. remake still has proper QTE's though, for example when you get grabbed you are faced with an actual real QTE>>736993370>it'll fool retards into thinking the QTE is not a QTEbasically this, remake4 parrying is a QTE in a fancy dress,
>>736992146 nonononono... they just removed the QTE that the original had and replaced them with the QTE-lite which the parrying is in the remake. as you are literally forced to use it otherwise you will fail. it's not a cutscene QTE but it's contextual button prompt nevertheless and it sort of falls in to QTE definition hence it being QTE-lite. remake still has proper QTE's though, for example when you get grabbed you are faced with an actual real QTE >>736993370 >it'll fool retards into thinking the QTE is not a QTE basically this, remake4 parrying is a QTE in a fancy dress. modern game design loves to fake things
>>736994757based game enjoyer!
i'm gonna go as far and say that the original isnt that good as well, a lot of it is carried by atmosphere (music and visuals), interesting characters but the core gameplay is tedious. now the demake strips away all the charme, the atmosphere in place for something more generic. now youre left with mediocre gameplay and nothing else. thats why its even more of an affront to the original game.
>>736988616you are so fucking gay
What I love the most is people who will esentially concede on all points that the OG is better but still go...>But the remake is still good on its own merits!If I fucking copy the straight A student's homework and fudge up some of the answers so that I get an A- instead of his A+, it's still his homework that got the grade. You're remaking what is arguably the greatest TPS of all time, and if you have even a quarter of its DNA, then it's pretty much destined to be at least good.
>>736985423yes
>>737014409i concede all points except on the gameplayit's way better in the remakethus, it's a better game
>>737012059>the parry is a qte, actually post so stupid it makes me want to hate on the original just out of spitekill yourself
>>737015502Unfortunately the ganeplay is worse on the remake too, even if still pretty good, but wholly unremarkable.
>>737005016>clear bear trap>consuela beams him with a rebound shot off literally nothing >alehandro hits him with the "teleports behind you" shenanigans>polish man angrily stares at him but does nothing the second he's looking at him>ground fucking explodes for no reasonIt honestly feels like AI generated gameplay footage, but I know it's not because I've had the same shit happen to me.
>>736985423its just generic and sort of lazy
>>737006415>have fun with it and think it's a good gameThat doesn't mean the game is good, that means you have shit taste.
I liked the remake but when i saw that it had a grenade throw arc i had to admit defeatabsolute SLOP
>>736985423No. The original's better though.
>>736985423_no
>>736994385How new are you? People have been trashing corposlop remakes since the 00s. Most of them are creatively bankrupt, RE4make is no exception.
>>736991057Shotguns in the remake are so fucking pathetic. A shame as they were great in the original. I also hate how fucking small the kick is in the remake. In the original it was a great 'get off me' move. In the remake it's more like they begrudgingly added it because it was in the original.
>>737019158>Shotguns in the remake are so fucking patheticshotguns are much better in the remake. the riot gun can gib at like 30 feet and the striker can sweep entire crowds off of you, i have no idea what you're smoking >I also hate how fucking small the kick is in the remake. In the original it was a great 'get off me' move. In the remake it's more like they begrudgingly added it because it was in the original.The kick was OP as fuck, that's why - it completely trivialized shotguns because every time you got a headshot with your handgun or TMP you got an iframe roundhouse kick that knocked down every enemy within 20 feet and 180 degrees of Leon
>see these threads>decide to replay OG RE4>the controls are clunky and awkward as hell>after an hour or so give up>download REmake 4>its immediately more fun to play
>>737019158Its just the default shotgun that fucking sucks. It feels terrible at base.A lot of the complaints about the gunplay people have are the fault of the starting handgun and shotgun being ass.Game gets so much more fun after you get some upgrades and can do more than tickle enemies.
>>736985423It's unremarkable and pointless.
Nostalgia is a hell of a thing. Sorry but I prefer the modern controls of re4, and same goes for re2, and re3 I cannot play those old games for the life of me and you cannot convince me that tank controls are better cause there not. Before anyone gives me any grief about I’ll have you no I did try the original games before the remakes but couldn’t get past the bad controls at all I did give them a chance but it’s not for me and I’m glad tank controls are dead
>>736985423I've actually been playing it for the first time now bc of the sale recently, and although at the beginning I was pleasantly surprised, i'm now at the first Verdugo fight and its not clicking anymore, most of it because the bullets lack impactThere's nothing wrong with it, but encounters so far have been kinda lame. Enemies barely react to being shot other than flinching to get a kick on them, and head crits are very rare. I stopped aiming to the head since i'm using the Red9 and its very powerful, and bodyshots work just fine and dispatch Ganados quick. But if i'm using that mainly, it's because any other ammo is scarce and I thought Red9 was going to do big booms of damage. The damage models aren't that good or if they are, any damage other than just a minuscule blood splat is rare. I know you can get limbs off of them, and grenades sometimes cut them by half, but it is very very rare, and most animations are falling down and dying.I don't know. I mean I don't know what I was expecting. Maybe a bit more of flair or spectacle. Maybe I should play on the highest difficulty to get at least surrounded or constantly on the move.It's a good game though. It is NOT the same as OG4 and other than the theme, its almost unrecognizable. They play vastly different to the point of being two different action games in the genre.
>>736985768Same.
>>736986774Well, I see that the President's equipped his daughter with ballistics too.
>>737019158>Shotguns in the remake are so fucking pathetic. A shame as they were great in the original.The shotguns are better than they were in the original. Now the first one is just as good as the riot shotgun.
>>736985423Yes
>>737005816is this console aim? he's not centering the crosshair around the skull perfectly even without letting the crosshair tighten - way off
>>736986908I never played any resident evil games before the 2 remake and i thought it was great.>>736987181Anon this is some>It's only bad when normies do itType shit. /v/ loves to dogpile. All this board is is a 24/7 spew of autists trying to wrestle control of the consensus.
>>736987927Nothing has impact these days though. And you cant always blame that on the product or the industry, part of it is also just the people and the nature of news and access to media. I mean you could reveal a list of highly famous influential people being connected to an underage sex trafficking ring and people would forget about it in a month. That's just how stuff is now.
>>736985423yes, for Ada's bitch voice alone
>>736985423Not bad. Just a game that was released.When the original literally changed the course of the entire industry.
>>736985423It's just more of the same. That's the thing about Japanese devs. they either do too little or too much. No inbetween. They also look down on western audience. they think we're idiots. Too many normalfags talking, and all the real gamers are busy gaming.
>>736991924>God this is pathetic.Feminine insult.
>>737025218Par for the course for REmake troons.
>>737008439>>gave enemies a ridiculous amount of hyperarmor but also introduced an obscenely overpowered nearly universal parry which means you can parryslop through entire hordes by doing literally the same kick routine like in original, it's just tied to a parry nowIts funny how you fags exaggerate the parry meanwhile in the original, you don't even have to invest in anything and you can solo the game with your first unupgraded handgun.
>>736999880>The original game created beautiful tensionThe tension died whenever I had to pause the game, go to the inventory, and switch to the shotgun.
>>737009372>if you are really good at the game then it becomes trivial>really goodlol, lmao even. You are trash at videogames,your opinions about videogames are meaningless. >>736999880kek, buzzwords, nostalfaggotry and autism, very dangerous combination.
>>736991629>The remake is fun, but it's a product. It's not RE4.That's exactly RE4 down to a t you fat bastard. These are products pumped out by a Japanese corporation. They have never cared about you, they only care about your money.
>>736985423It's just The Last of Us.RE4 never needed a remake.
>>737006415>the 4 replies seethingkeeek, good job.
It does good and bad things. I enjoyed my hardcore playthrough but did not care to play it again.
>>736985423idk. never palyed itlooked like a lame DEmake
>>736988952look how they massacred my boy
>>736991775>frogposter is a retardimagine my shock
>>737008293>chartmogged by re5 & 6
>>737025938I don't have a subhuman station
>>737005701The pacing in TLOU2 was so fucking bad compared to RE4 tho, every 10 minutes there's Uncharted climbing section. It's just no comparison between these two, RE4 literally wins
>>737005841Resident Evil fans that worship Mikami are retarded, this guy is the reason why CAPCOM gets away with mediocre titles.
