This sure did get memory holed on here rather quickly I guess AI is okay as long as it's people in (You)'re favorite game
>>736991614AI will replace you redditor
>>736991614>I guess AI is okayyes
The only known AI shit was just a couple of background paintings
>>736991614All the good games use AI like E33 and Crimson desert, jeets are crying about AI because it's replacing them. Nobody cares about browns.
>>736991614No one cared when GOTY 2025 got busted for using AI, why should they care when it's some random gookslop?
I think a year from now it will be harder to find the studios that don't use AI at all compared to studios that use is for anything from coding/tools/artwork or more mundane stuff like reports or research.
>>736991614Damn they're still mad about that gayme?
How it's okay when E33 did it
>>736991614>SEETHING JEW CRIES THAT AI IS BETTER IN EVERY RESPECT THAN TRANNIESTHIS IS NEWTHIS IS IMPORTANT
Western gaming journos still writing hit pieces about Crimson Desert?Who's footing the bill this time? Still Sony seething that the publisher refused a PS5 exclusivity deal?
>>736991614because nobody gives a fuck about some paintings you'll never look at
>>736992012i was gonna mentioned this game but man dumb journalist circlejerk anything to put down CD for no reason
>>736992439Actually it's probably that the company that made CD didn't pay the journo "consulting" fee. Things like "consulting" only work if people who you try to force to pay you suffer when they don't pay. Asian studios don't pay for "consultants" which results in the entire game journo pros clique writing bad reviews and hitpieces against the game. Same thing happened with wukong.The unique thing that is happening lately is that the bad reviews and hitpieces don't work at all. All these asian games that didn't pay have sold millions and millions of copies, while western games that do pay millions to "consultants" keep bombing and losing a billion dollars every time.The journo mob is probably terrified that they have lost all influence and because they're jewish and retarded they just keep trying the same thing over and over for months while screaming on jewsky that "gamers don't know what's good for them" because we don't play the trash games who paid them off and do play the good games that refuse to pay.
>>736991614>our agenda is against this game so we're going to make a big deal about AI background paintings while ignoring other gamesAll 'journalism' is clickbait anyway.
Faggot lefties still having melties over another good Eastern game.lol
>>736992932Or they're just old and bored.
>A few weeks later everyone seems to have forgotten Yeah. Welcome to the internet and the outrage culture you cultivated.
>>736991614I've never had a problem with AISo yeah, it's okay
>>736991614Stop posting screenshots from other websites here
WHO THE FUCK CARES
>>736991614>I guess AI is okay as long as it's people in (You)'re favorite gameUh, yes? That's not a bad thing btw.
>>736993052damn, that looks deliciousimagine the smell
>>736991614lol troons are so fuckednobody gives a flying fuck about their faux outrage on any subject anymore
>>736992685Who cares, hope these journos eventually lose their "jobs" and have to go out and get real jobs. McDonalds is always hiring.
Words of imperative character like "should" have no business being in a journalist's vocabulary. Nobody asked. Nobody cares.
>>736993987they aren't even remotely journalists, they're propagandistsand they lost lmao
>>736991614AI is a tool. The only people who think all AI used for any reason whatsoever is bad are retards, autists, furries, commies, and trannies.
>>736994098>retards, autists, furries, commies, and tranniesWhy did you repeat the same thing five times?
>>736991614(You) will also get replaced by AI
>>736994098>furries>>736993052
>>736991614>I guess AI is okayAlways was, always will be.Neo-luddites never won anything in history.
>>736991614>"ai scandal"Did something happen beyond the wall paintings?
>>736994098>"AI is just a tool, don't get mad at tools" bros when the Indian brings out his trusty Phillips head hammerIt's a tool that is easy to use badly and the consequences aren't always immediately visible, so inviting more scrutiny is a natural consequence of using it at all.
Don't tell me what I should be bothered by you hag jewgolem shill
>>736991614>please give a fuck
>>736995503Blaming AI for the existence of jeets is starting at the wrong end. That would be like trying to ban clothing because smelly jeets wear them and/or use them as mobile toilets.
>>736991614It's okay when the french do it however.
>>736994526of course not, this is just jewish media lying as always
>>736991614>I guess AI is okayYes
>>736991614People complained and the devs removed it. What more do you want? It's not like Stellar Blade where they just left it in.Also, allegedly it was only a placeholder that made it into the final release by accident. Might be bullshit, but the AI assets in CD were so archaic, they were clearly made by early AI from around 2022 and then forgotten about.
>>736995503what consequences?
Yeah at this point you wont tell me that western jurnos do not have some weird ass vendetta against this gook game. What the actual fuck lol seriously.
>>736991963First it was "only jeets like AI"- Now you mean to tell me "jeets are afraid theyll lose their jobs". Im beginning to suspect this has nothing to do with brown people or indians at all.
>>736991614>Female opinion Go back
>>736991614>should bother youWhy is every single article an opinion piece these days?
>>736994098>FurriesI dunno, man. There is one hell of a rift in furryland. It's a pretty even split of people who don't care or think it's neat and people that are ravenously against it. Things have got so fierce over it that generally people don't even mention it in fear of starting a dumpster fire. It's kind of like what pot was 15 years ago. So much as mention weed and the room exploded with people that will squabble about it for hours.That use to be my favorite dumpster fire to watch. Just imply that pot or mushrooms exist and watch people bicker so hard that mods/admin show up to start booting people. Good times.
>>736991614I support ai replacing talentless western losers so what's the problem? the sooner the western triple A scene dies the sooner i can stop having fucking pearl clutching feminist kyle and karens complain about 2d anime girls being too attractive and it causing people irl to commit sucide
>>736991963im pretty sure e33 and crimson desert are both mostly AI made and the new AI push is to just straight up lie about using it. geoff probably got bribed to give it so many goty awards lmao. now behind closed doors tech companies can go to investors and be like "look the whole game was made by ai and no one noticed ai is the future!!!"
As long as AI isn't designing the gameplay who gives a fuck. I'm not buying a game to look at the textures
it doesn't, Claireit really doesn't
>>736996046You might find that "jeet" is being used as an insult regardless of the insultees actual nationality, much like "tranny" is used as one, regardless of their actual gender identity.
>>736993987they're failed bloggers who were too late to the gamergate train where the most insuffrable talentless losers got promoted upwards from game journos into publications because look at all the clicks Im getting by calling my audience angry incels I am an amazing journalist and victim hire me
>>736996115Because just facts bores people. They don't want the truth, they just want to feel validated, so they look for "news" sources that agree with them.
>>736995657The problem is that it's a massive force multiplier for unskilled work, but is substantially less useful for a qualified user. Even though it's possible to use AI somewhat well, it should still be scrutinized because most people won't do so.>>736995831>What consequences?The spontaneous injection of unusable work into a project coming from someone who believes that AI is a competent and authoritative source, reinforced by the fact that most AI models are optimized to appear authoritative, suck you off and compliment your decisions.
>>736991614I'm more concerned about this sort of troon being employed when it should instead be in a padded room
>>736996547I'd much rather be stuck talking to her at a party than you, I can tell you that much...
>>736991614I don't give a shit as long as the game is good
>>736991614>>736991614I literally do not give two shits if AI is used or not. My only problems are:>1) Corporations are going to use it to become lazy and overmanufacture media products, which will oversaturate the market with shovel ware. This would also make it easy for Turd worlders like India to oversaturate the market with their shit.>2) If a $400 million game that would take 8 years to develop were to be reduced to a $40 million game that took 3 years while maintaining equivalent quality, which would save game publishers a shit ton of time, money and resources, those same greedy publishers are still going to Jew us for $80+ a game and we as consumers will see zero savings.>3) Shareholders/investors are not going to stop with their "line must go up" BS and will shrink studios into nothingness, firing legitimate game developers and artists who are actually talented and not wasting spaceOutside of these immediate concerns, I fully welcome the usage of AI in game development, especially if it means that high quality, big budget AAA games with a lot of attention to detail (like Red Dead Redemption 2) will not take entire generations to release. You guys have to understand that game development is so fucking bloated right now. Halo 3's development only had like 100 people, give or take, while something like the new Marathon had upwards of 1K, if not more. There's too many chefs in the kitchen, and that shit WILL hurt game development and the creative process. We need to go back to having games where they're made by a team of 50-150 people.It would also democratize game development and we could probably see a new golden age for Indies for game developers who couldn't do certain tasks because they didn't have the resources, money or amount of people.
>>736996546>tranny seethingrotty rotty axewound twatty
>>736996714High budget gaming is done, either way. If big studios slice their staff, it's not the actual talent and visionaries that are gonna stay. It's gonna be all middle managers and code monkeys.If AI is gonna help game development, it's gonna be at the low budget and indie end, either way. Small studios who can use it to save money and work. Although these are also the ones who'll most likely be reluctant to use it at all, out of fear it might compromise their vision.Which isn't entirely irrational, mind. I'm perfectly fine with AI being used for coding and troubleshooting. But I'm very skeptical whether it has any place in the actual artistic process. I don't want it used to create art assets and I sure as hell don't want it be used for music or writing. That's where I draw a line.
>>736997046>I don't want it used to create art assets and I sure as hell don't want it be used for music or writing. That's where I draw a line.Who gives a fuck what you think you self-righteous niglet? The fact that you posted your opinion on 4chan like it matters means that you're a fuckin' retard.
>>736991614>I guess AI is okay as long as it's people in (You)'re favorite gameYou've mistook something YOU care about for something other people should care about again. You did this same thing with the Hodwarts game you thought people would boycott
This was never about AI but about a (non Nintendo) asian game shaming western devs and journos seething that their shilling doesnt work anymore
>>736997525precisely
>report issue>issue is fixed>WHAT NO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO KEEP BEING ANGRY AT ITi hate merchants that deal in anger. I play games to be happy not to constantly nag and be angry at them. This is why nobody reads your trash articles "journalists"
>>736996392>buzzwords are meaningless and the subhumans that use them are retardedIn other news
>AI scandal...It was some random background paintings nobody even noticed. AND they patched them out after they heard some fat bitch crying about it.
>>736997387If no one gives a fuck what anyone thinks we could just as well just not have message boards like this one, y'know?
>>736997737no just what you think, everyone else is cool because they don't seem like a dumbass
>>736991614Nobody actually cares about ai in games. It's just a moralfag grandstand to publicy justify not playing games you already weren't going to buy or play
>jeet thread?jeet thread
>>736997646im almost 100% sure the voice acting is AI, the voice of a lot of the NPCs is the same voice as the dwarf guy from absolum which also had blatant ai acting
>>736991614Collectively we /v/ realized that games made with generative AI are good when it turned out that E33 was made with it. I think that's what happened with the entire industry after E33 won all the awards as well.Generative AI is saving video game development.
>>736991614I could not care less about ai generated textures, art or anything.
>>736998058>lie about the game using ai>pay for game awards>get awards you paid for taken away because you lied>this is a win somehowwhat a mess
>>736998127E33 lost one award because the luddite cunts at indie awards or whatever are retarded.
>>736992635It's especially pathetic because CD has a LOT of things to criticize but that would require actually being a gamer to see the problems and convey why they are bad is an understandable way.Game journalists are just failed msm journalists who are willing to pretend to like games.
>>736992439Lol one hundred percent. Mainstream media is still trying to put hit pieces out on indie games that don't tow the Central banking dei divide and conquer shit in their games to distract from theft.
>>736991614>claire>whining about ai5 bucks thats a tranny
>/v/ collectively throws all morals and integrity into the garbage bin because the toy made with AI is FUNI never want to see you faggots complain about "jeets" or AI slop ever again. The jeet is you
>>736997891Yes, that's why people want projects to disclose that they're using AI, so that search results aren't clogged with slop.It's like games not disclosing that they're early access, and given that these games will frequently hastily patch out the AI after complaints, that's exactly what they appear to be: undisclosed early access..
>d-d-did someone say Eyyyy Ayyyy?!>read my article btw
>>736998781>/v/>morals and integrity?
>>736996253im going to be under the impression the people against it are the ones who make their living drawing over priced commissions
>>736998781Well, no. It had a couple of AI generated placeholder assets that made it into the release version. People pointed them out. They apologized and removed them. It's fine. I don't hold a grudge over that.
>>736991614How will gay furry nsfw voice actors find work now?
>>736991614Pronouns of the writer? Flags in xer bio? Early life?
>>736991614AI derangement just has hit fatigue levels for normal people.Look at the Honzuki shit people lost their minds over because the OP used some patterns in the background that you saw for all of half a second or something each.Autists paused the OP and then endlessly looked for telltale signs of AI and threw a massive shitfit over it.The studio "fixed" it by redoing the scenes manually, and now it looks like ass compared to before.
>>736991614AI is slow. Always be slop. But you can't stop it. That's why it's slop in the first placae. Cry in your corners, it's all you can do.
>>736993987journalism basically doesn't exist anymore. it's all just self-important preacher faggots who think it is their job to convert the masses rather than to simply inform them.
I dont mind if AI brings more detail to games but CD looks like Witcher reskinned.
>>736996640you aren't invited to any parties and no one talks to you, so that hypothetical is kind of irrelevant
>>736993987at least 90% of people working in games journalism are no actual journalists by trade. they havent studied media, they didnt learn/train the job at a media outlet, meaning they dont know shit about journalism. its mostly failed students that somehow got into the job by pure chance. they are news writers and nothing else. its like plugging a power cable in and calling yourself an electrician.
>>736999546CD is miles above Witcher in terms of world detail, looks, performance and I'd even say combat because both are braindead but CD at least throws hordes of enemies at you
>>736998943Or their groupies. Or the people that are mad that slapping like four words in a generator vomits out something way cuter then their $70 OCDONUT STEEL. Or something I dunno. I'm painting with a wide brush and I hate doing that. All kinds of different folk have their own stances and reasons for it. I do have an art friend that hates AI and knows better than to bring it up when I'm lurking because I'll gush about AI while he bemoans it. Then I'll offer to give him 50 bucks to draw something for me and he'll stop talking to me for a few days. I like a little friction.
>>736991947This. Who fucking cares?Oh, the shitposters do..
>>736991614>weeks after the game's release and subsequent success, western press guard dogs are still barking through the fence like rabid mutts
>>736991614>jewrnalist troons still seethingkek i can't wait for dokev to release and btfo these clowns even more
>>737000000wasted
>>737000000CD has without a doubt the most abysmal controls and UI in video game history, but I do plan on buying and playing it at some point. Figure I'll give it a year for the devs to "fix" this early access they gave us and modders to smooth out the rest.
>>737000000Blessed
>>737000000wasted get. wordfilter troon to something else NOW
>>737000000Dogshit post
>>737000084UI is just average, button mapping is fucking cancer
>>737000000C H E C K E DHECKEDdoke chads won>>737000032>>737000098>>737000102found the jews
>>737000000Dokev GOTC (game of the century) confirmed!
>I guess AI is okay when it's okayLadies and gentlemen we have a genius in our presence.
>>736991614>i-is that... an ai placeholder texture? AIIIIEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!Eternal reminder that video game "journalists" are less than human.
>>737000000Dokev status??? ONE BILLION COPIES SOLD
>>737000138The layout of the UI is mostly fine, but the devs who worked on button mapping must have been involved here as well with how retarded some of the UI controls are. >You have quest "switches" that you can't just press the interact key on, you have to shine a lantern on it after already being given a prompt before you can interact with it>you have building screens you have to HOLD esc then use the mouse wheel to exit>you can't click and drag gear to equip it from the inventory and even double clicking instead of hold space was a patch after releaseOn and on these baffling quirks keep popping up.
>>736998903>Morals and integrity>Irrational hatred of a technology
>>737000153cute
>>736998781AI was always based. It removes the toxic gatekeeping from the arts and engineering.More games should embrace AI.
>>736991614if you're going to shill an article you might as well link it
>>736991614I don't mind AI as long as it disclosed upfront. And ai model that creates the assets is listed as the main artist in credits. Prompters can be listed as AI Operators or something.
>>736992213Marathon did worse than using AI, it outright STOLE art from a real human.
If the game is otherwise good then yeah I don't much careI get if you want to be an AI vegan, but it's not a dealbreaker on its own for me
>>736991614My opinion on Crimson Desert begins and ends with "its interesting that if this game was made by a western company all these same outlets would be blowing it 24/7"
>>736991614>AI scandalThey used AI for some artworks like paintings, then apologized immediately and the following patch within a few days removed them all and replaced them with real art. What fucking "scandal"?
>>737002887Twitter/Reddit enjoyers are perpetually butthurt that AI exists. They are deranged to the point that saying you don't hate AI will make them attack you as scum of the Earth.
>>736991614>1Nothing wrong with me>2Nothing wrong with me.
>>737002887It's just people unable to contextualize anything themselves, thus adopting an extreme view as it's easier to understand. A classic sign of a low IQ.
>>736991614It’s Korean. They’re not real. And they worship superficial shit over content. It’s expected that they, of all peoples on earth, would abuse AI.
>>736991614The faguettes are calling in a few more favours it would seem
The whole game looks like it was made by an AI
>>737000000journalfag defense force BTFO
>>737000000BASEDDAB ON WESTJANNIES' FUCKING GRAVES
>>736991614i did notice the dall-e threads are gone. was it paid shills or did they move the general to another board?
>>736991614AI is always ok, only troons have anything against it.
>>736991614Were you around to see the adoption of CGI in movies? It was a bit rough at first but progress was made and shit is a lot better now, to the point where it's overused. That's how technology works, it improves over time from a rough start.
>journocunt wants to tell me how to feeli love ai now thanks
>>736992012they couldn't have spend the few hours each to come up with like a dozen different posters?you can make half that shit in under an hour in adobe illustrator
>>737003386The only issue I have with it is how much damage the datacenters cause to surrounding ecosystems. One area diverted several smaller creeks to use for water cooling then just discharges the contaminated water downstream when it becomes too hazardous to use as a coolant.
It's fine to use AI in your game but it should be disclosed up front and the price should be way lower. You deserve better.