Beat pic related today and I admire E33 for how strikingly it blends style, emotion, and atmosphere into something that feels both grand and painfully intimate. I especially love the way its setting, combat, and artstyle all seem to serve the same eerie, dreamlike mood. The combat's probably the best the JRPG genre has to offer.That being said I do think it eventually leans a little too hard into family drama shite, and while that gives the story emotional weight (both for me as a player and the characters), it also makes some of the broader mystery and scale feel narrower than I felt was set up.I totally get why everyone liked it so much though. Easily a 9/10. Lune is best girl.
>>736994163True. You will now be hammered by browns for a few hours for liking something good.
>m-muh familyis this is the only critisism you people can think of?
UE5 asset flip with a marketing budget
>>736994325It's just something that stood out to me.
>>736994610skin issue
Final Fantasy 7 Remake has sold 8m copies. Get gaped Feemasons.
>>736994325There's another thread full of criticisms of you'd like to read those
>>736994697Yeah it has such organic threads too.
>>736994325It made the game completely pointless.
>>736994769>t. family doesn't love him
excrement 33
>>736994254An acceptable outcome.
>>736994829/v/ sees 40000 unique IPs per day. What sway does a few hundred Indian bots matter?
>>736994163Good take imo
>>736994754Those threads are hilarious though. Watching one guy bump his thread from page 10 every hour or so, thinking a soul alive gives as shit is pretty much this entire site summarized
>>736994163I'm ~90 hours in on expert (more or less, allowing for idle time) and I'm at the monolith, but i went back to frozen hearts and i am starting to get frustrated at this game.up through the gestral village i thought this was going to be a really unique, great game of all time, but the ost fell off hard after that, and so did the level design. this game is either unfinished, or they frontloaded the best stuff in the first 3 areas for reviewers. because after that the levels and ost become much more generic and boring. the danseuse is unforgivable, especially for a reward that must be one of the ugliest cosmetics of all time. it doesnt help that the screen is wildly jumping around every time anything happens. I'm starting to get burned out on the "just die until you learn the parry patterns" simon says rhythm game aspect. maybe i should just take a break..i think this is a very good game but there are very significant wrinkles that shouldve been ironed out.the overworld exploration on water really makes me wish theyd remake sunless sea with these graphics
>>736994697>immediate salescope
>>736994995Like this guy >>736994630 bumping a thread on page 10 after no one has replied for over an hour?
>>736994163Its total peak, only 3rd worlders can't understand art due to their low IQ
>>736995073>ost started to suck>at the monolithKeep playing, won't spoil anything even if it obvious
>>736994895>that imageKek
>>736995218Not all art is good. Good art should be able to appeal to retards, midwits, and intelligent nihilistic guys with a wicked sense of humor like me.
>>736994163Yup, it's a great game. Too bad this is /v/ and this thread will fill up with brainlets, trolls & contrarians.
>>736994829This is just another strike for the "Who the fuck answers polls anyways?" crowd.
Jesus Christ.
>>736994928>40k unique IPsGod DAMN this place is dead.
>>736994163>The combat's probably the best the JRPG genre has to offer.>probablyThere it is right there - you haven't played any other JRPG's. This is why it got so many 9 and 10/10 reviews, coz most people haven't played any JRPG's, avoiding the genre because they don't want people to think they like anime, and you all don't realise how uninspired and generic it is.
>>736994325I agree with it and I'm one of the game's most outspoken defenders on vee. It's still an 11/10 game and I still like the direction the story took in the final chapter. But I wish it wasn't such a hard pivot from the original premise. You can take the story in that direction and show everything they showed while still finding at least a little time to relate it back to the people of Lumiere and their near century-long struggle. I have absolutely no issue with the fact that everything occurs inside a magical painting controlled by the Dessendres or that none of them ultimately care about its inhabitants. It would be nice for the game itself to care though. Even just a mention from Maelle as she's pleading to her father, accompanied by some sort of montage or flashback, would be something at least.
>>736994163Really a terrific example of what modern writing is missing. E33 is written earnestly and isn't afraid of trying to illicit actual emotion with its storytelling. Modern writers are fucking allergic to earnest storytelling and instead everything has to be sarcastic, ironic, and couched in nihilism. E33 was incredibly refreshing in terms of storytelling.
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. Let that sink in...
>>736994163It’s only flaw is the act 3 balance but that is rectified with the dlc bosses
>>736994325More asian women complaining about "muh generational trauma"
>>736996479I can see where he's coming from, most JRPG combat SUCKS. Braindead easy, no customisation, no strategy. Games like Bravely Default and SaGa series, where you actually have to think about your team composition, are rare. I never liked SMT, but seeing how far they've fallen with V's casualisation is tragic too see.
>>736996570>games should be fun>omg this looks like dogshit but it's so artistic and disturbing >:))) i'm enjoying eating shit because it comforts me, these low IQ people will never understand>games should be fun
>>736996145That and the waving got me.
>>736996669>I never liked SMT, but seeing how far they've fallen with VClearly you've never played them either, because the earlier games' combat was both far easier and simpler than newer titles.
>>736996479It really is great and ranks high among JRPGs. Maybe not the best as I haven't played all 9000 of them but up there for sure. The main thing it's missing, which I hope they introduce for the sequel, is a tempo control system, something akin to Grandia's IP gauge or SMT press turns. I would perhaps also like dodging/parrying to come at some sort of action economy or opportunity cost, so that it weighs into the strategy of the fight instead of being its own minigame which is universally advantageous and with zero downside. Those are improvements though and based on my personal taste. The system is pretty fucking good as is.
>>736994325It's true and I had the same issue initially.>Oh, so the world doesn't matter, it's just a drama about some pretentious ass people I know nothing aboutIt's the "what I want the game to be" vs "what it actually is. For what it tries to do imo it's really good, I think Verso and Maelle are some of the best written characters in vidya, but the "I don't give a rat's ass about some random cunts with god powers" reaction is perfectly valid. I'd guess they did it this way to kinda put the player in Maelle's shoes, to perceive the setting as more than what it actually is, but it clearly did backfire to some degree.
>>736994829>"I voted E33, because apparently it's "astroturfed" whatever that means">"I mean, I see the word used in relation to E33 all the time on /v/"That one guy on /v/ who spams the word won hard with this.
>>736996781I played III, V and SJ (the original). V is the easiest and I like it the least.
>>736996910You can tell he won because E33fags are still crying about despite E33 "winning" so many awards and GOTY and "selling" so many copies despite no one I know has even heard of it.
>>736996992I'm talking about the older titles, that 'old = good, new = bad' faggots would claim as being better despite having never played them. III is indeed harder, SJ is harder for the most part until endagame, where VV is probably the hardest in the series when you start fighting the optional endgame bosses.
>>736997138>heThe correct pronoun is "I". Happy to help.>no one I know has even heard of itThat's either because it's not translated into Hindi, or because it's not on the Bing Bing Wahoo Toy.Try to explain over 250k reviews on Steam then. And before you make a clown of yourself, remember: to create 100k "bot reviews" they would have to buy 100k copies on Steam. They can't just take 100k keys for free and give them to bots.
>>736994163No one gives a shit, it's a faggot ass game, fuck off
>>736994163Cool copypasta, tranny
Anyone played the game since last week? The last update seems to have changed a lot of the battle animation/UI. Also they added a lot more sounds in cutscenes or combat.Maybe that's just me but didn't play since last year and it feels very different.
>>736994163you didn't beat it today. you beat it months ago. why the fakery? also what race are you in britbong land btw?
>>736994163It was mid, I'm afraid.
>>736994163I loved the game, but being able to literally spam dodge and parry makes the game being turn-based completely pointless, because you're acting out of turn. I don't think having Souls-style bosses that spam attacks works well with the turn-based format, but that's just me. Still an amazing game though.
reminder
>>736994163>>736999904no one cares
>>736994829It wasn't a bad game, it just wasn't *that* good. I've never seen anything so unremarkable mid gain such an enthusiastic cult-like following before. It's not even weird or quirky or whatever like Undertale, it's just a bog standard UE game, full of stock assets even.
>>737000043You clearly cared enough to enter the thread and post.
I think people overrated this game because a lot of people are controlled by their emotions.
>>736994163It's fucking boring, unfortunately.
Woops...
>>737000258i made my wife pregnant haha
>love FFX>love Sekiro>love this game>creator later said he wanted to go back to big budget turn-based games, and all the parrying stuff is because he liked SekiroYep that makes sense
to e33trannys how do you fell your game will never be considered a jrpg? never in hell
>>736994163>Easily a 9/10.I'll meet you at an 8, but a 9's a little much.
More Clea...
>>737000157And the best pieces of art since forever are the ones that evoke emotions. You can read a history book and sure, you will learn a lot, that's its function, but if you're not reading to learn things, it will just be boring. But if you read a novel, it may - if it's good - make you feel things.This is also how you may like a simply painted picture better than a 100% flawless recreation of reality.
>>736994254thisenjoy the brown invasion
>>736994829Excellent 33
>>736994163pretty white
>>736994163I think they went a bit over-the-top with the celebration, but perhaps it's just me
>>736994829>Weebs are still seethingIt never stops being funny.
>>736994163I don't agree with the family issue everyone has. Everyone can relate to family drama an the moral questionability it presents in this game is top notch.
>>736994163Did you not get the new script? That was last year's shill game. This year you're supposed to shill Crimson Desert.
>>737001825The issue, as they critics it, lies in reframing the game from being about an entire civilisation going extinct, to being just about one family's drama, as the painted are not real according to them. In-game, only Clea holds this view, and she's not exactly a reliable source. Everyone else, from real Renoir to real Verso, see the painted people as real. I consider them sentient beings, with the capacity to feel emotion, pain, create works of art (painted Alicia's poem) and even rebel against their creator. I see the Dessendre family as greek gods, their family drama destroying entire civilisations.
>>736994163Is the cover art AI generated? Why is the hovering wizard facing this way? Looks like one of them music band pics where the drummer is sitting in front of the stage.>>736994254Tf u talking about, the collective Internet and their mothers are pretty much calling it the best thing since sliced bread.Having said that, I grew bored of the gaspcore drama and 'woe is me' mc. I can stil appreciate the game being beautiful
>>736996145You did right thing anon, not the easy thing.
>>736994163Simply too white for /v/.
>>736994754kek that faggot's still at it?
>>736994163 Agreed. The family shit is a bit much but it doesn't detract a ton IMO.
>>736994163kys
Did you do this
>>736995218This. It's a skin thing.
>>736996658Pretty sure your son/brother dying in a fire is "right now"-drama, friend who brainlessly uses words like a parrot.
>>736994769>>736996995>uhhh, there can't be two things at the same time>an additional thing happened so the original one can't matter anymore What's with this NPC level thinking?
>>737003505The right thing rarely is...
Easy GOTY
>>736994254Browns (such as yourself) love this game. White people can see through the surface level emotional trickery and recognize something entirely lacking in substance.That's precisely why the game did well - increasing number of brownskins in the world, and a decreasing number of whites.
>>737007295Copium: the post
>>736994163UE5 asset flip. Not impressed at all.
>>736994163>That being said I do think it eventually leans a little too hard into family drama shite, and while that gives the story emotional weight (both for me as a player and the characters), it also makes some of the broader mystery and scale feel narrower than I felt was set up.That's been a running gripe that I've had with JRPGs. Some of them do a really good job of setting up the gravity of the work the party has to do, only to have some giant plot twist at the end to render it all NULL AND VOID. Xenoblade is a fairly good offender in this. Tales handles them a "little" more intelligently. A twist in Tales adds surprising context as opposed to rendering the entire plot up to that point moot. That said, E33 does try to warn you. It's a hilarious moment, because it's a fantasy game and you don't fucking question why everything looks the way it does, unless you're already spoiled. Had a few friends message me who were SO fucking mad.
>>737001517That Pyra guy really broke you, huh
>>737007498Why do people think this looks good? The animations and retarded slow-mo spam looks so janky.
>>737007498
>>737007997kek, utterly seething
>>737007295Post hands.
>>736994163Yeah most people tend to like it.
>>737009006That was me the entire time right from the very start, I fucking hate it when characters are obviously withholding information and noone grills his ass
>>737007498Those feet... woaw...
Strongest points: Story, MUSIC (especially), characters and acting/voice acting. It also gets bonus points for nostalgiafags that like overworld exploration and old RPG level designWeakest points: It's still an asset flip. Sometimes you can REALLY smell the generic UE cutscenes in transitions and camera anglesAlso very poorly balanced act 3. When the game launched, you had no way of knowing whether going straight to the final mission or doing sidequests was the way to go. You could go and do a million different side pieces of content and then go to the final mission and one shot the final boss. If you first do the endings and THEN do the side content, much of the mystery and magic dies out simply because the game is already over, regardless of any additional piece of loreIt's still undeniable that gaming would be a little bit better if most big studios adopted these kinds of projects
>>737008395Cope. It reeks of Bollywood slop
Now that E33 lost, what's next?
>>7370100784chan
>>737010120Did they fuck up the captcha or is it just CloudShit taking it in the ass again?
>>737010396No idea but it doesn't seem like there's anything wrong with cloudflare itself.
>>737010396>>737010497someone on /g/ said Hiroshimoot has added an extra wait time manually
>>737010054But that was fucking cool.
>>737010396Hiro tries to make anons buy passes by making captcha a pain in the ass.
>>737010689That doesn't explain why the server doesn't process any of the requests and counts everything as denial. It still goes through but it's just weird.
>>736994697Theyre both ass
>>737010859yeah most of my posts take a while now and i double-post by accident all the time
>>737007498>>737008112>Browns unironically still unable to post good looking artistic webms or screenshots of the game despite them praising how artistic their midwit game isSaar very good amazing, saar. Please do the needful and post more saar.
>>737010054Bollywood can be good sometimes. RRR is one of the best films ever made and if you disagree you have no soul.
E33 is a solid AA game, but I wish it were priced like an AA game at $40 on release.
>>737010929FF7R at least created more R34 of my waifus and even introduced me to a few that were already there Jesse, Scarlet, Priscilla, Madame M, Elena, etc.R34 of E33 seems sad and forced like Battleborn. No one even fights over who the best waifu is anymore as if it was paid shills posting scripts to fake interest in E33 and astroturf it as a genuine artfag nerd/otaku game.
>>737011457The rendering is pretty poor so it doesn't photograph well. The art style is good though.
>>737011457I forget, is E33 the brown game or not?
>>737011793Chinese investors don't like that sort of thing
>>737011940>>737011946Saar art style very good saar. Looks very nice on 480p saar. No one can render 4K and take nice screenshot very sorry saar.
>>737011793That's fair, but in their defense it did 45 bucks and on release it only moved up to 50. Which is still acceptably IMO for a AA game of this quality.
>>737009826>footfags
>>737013503And?
>anniversary DLC next weekhow will jeets cope with this one?
>>737014661Disgusting, creepy and lame.
>>737014709by making fun of it
>>737014709cancelled due to lack of interest
>>737007295E33 was fantastic, you've been blinded by contrarianism.
>>737013503I would pay obscene amounts of money to be able to rub, kiss, lick and suck Clea Dessendre's lovely French feet
It was ok. Its really overrated though
All in all, it was a very good first attempt for a studio who came out of nowhere.Could certainly be better in a few regards, and I really hope their next game is twice as good, but I liked it a lot.I'd like a game with more of an actual world next time. There's like no fucking towns in this game.
>>736994163The combat's probably the best the JRPG genre has to offer.real high fuckin bar there>>736994325it manages to be completely disjointed from act1/2 so yes
>>736994163I played this year because I am a contrarian and though it was slop until mid game.I was conviced people were brainwashed and then I was slowly being converted.Never killing a main character made me so satisfyed in a game before. And I like they inverted the JRPG trope of "family drama to killing a God" in a very intelligent way.And yeah, I wish June was real and I was married to her.
>>736994769>>736994806>>737006540you do realize the only reason this is an issue is because>character has amnesia for contrived reasonswhich in itself makes the plot and the takeaway themes contriived>>736994254>browns are the only people capable of being criticalfuck that
Draw your own fan-art, now.
>>737000087I think Crimson Desert has easily surpassed E33 in this regard. Never been so confused on why everyone thinks a game is a generational masterpiece.
>>737000087people don't like it for the assets.
>>737000087You are a retarded faggot, that's all
>>737001517He's right, and you're proving his point.
>>737011676>>737011838>Bollywood can be good sometimes.I can smell you through the screen.>RRR is one of the best films ever madeI watched it drunk with my friends and at one point we wanted to call an ambulance because we thought we'd die from laughing.>if you disagree you have no soulWhat would you know about having a soul, you walking turd?
>>736995218only the low iq think video games are art.
>>736994163well you have shit taste.
>>737016375>character has amnesia for contrived reasonsYou mean Alicia/Maelle? What's contrived about it? It's clearly explained why it happens and makes sense.
>>737011939>No one even fights over who the best waifu isThat's because of how obvious it is. You have multiple 30+ year old hags vs a 16 year old fertile goddess.
>>737018157He doesn't know what contrived means.
>>737017128>I think Crimson Desert has easily surpassed E33 in this regard.Not even close. I've never been in a Crimson Desert thread, but there aren't 20+ concurrent Crimson Desert threads on the catalogue 24/7, and I'd bet that there is more game discussion than just "if you say anything negative about E33, you are brown" which is the only thing that anyone ever says in E33 threads still to this day.
>>736995073>burn patient>I'm at the monolith
>>736994163Why does all the praise for this game sound like weird PR-speak or like something AI generated? The people who shill for E33 are such weird NPCs.
>>737007295>>737015904>over two hours later>still hasn't posted his hand in replyHmmm. I wonder what this could mean.
>>737000157>media is supposed to be logically analyzed rather than enjoyed for the emotions it evokes and the intelligence of its craft You’re just an alexithymic spergy retard. I was the same way at 10.
