Why is the writing so horrible?
Remove Age of Imprisonment from that statement.
>>736999876Age of Calamity and Imprisonment are really cool though. The latter especially. Narrative wise, they really are what the main games should have been.
Why did the hyrule warriors got better writing?Even the original did the whole, "timeline connected" better than botw, to the point someone used it to explain it even if it's not canon.
It's a Zelda game (also trannyslators)
>>737000210Because they're linear stage-based affairs with many playable characters. Of course it's easier to write focused stories that give many of them the spotlight than in open world games with one silent playable character and everything being achievable in any order and technically optional.
>>736999876Because they're video games. All video games have horrible writing, but that doesn't matter because it's just a vehicle to do things in the game.
>>736999876it's for children
Is age of imprisonment worth getting?Never played any musou games, tried the demo but it seemed like a shallow button masher, not sure if it gets better
>>737000358It's a musou, it's a shallow button masher by design.
>>737000358>but it seemed like a shallow button masherThat's what musou are at their core though Age of Imprisonment gets far more thoughtful than the norm due to the Zonai devices and all the rock-paper-scissors mechanics.
>>736999876A furry got in control of the series and decided to retcon the entire lore to shoehorn in his super special OCs.
>>737000210Because koei tecmo is better at stories. Same with Fe 3 houses/hopes vs every other fire emblem game
>>736999876They just straight up stopped giving a fuck and knew it would still sell off the brand and skin, same with the Mario movies. Even Miyamoto knew lore and worldbuilding mattered back during the SNES/N64 days.
>>736999876Because Nintendo is top to bottom some combination of slack ass, grifter, or idiot, and Aonuma is the worst combination of all three.
Because writing has taken a nosedive thanks to literally everything being a copy of a copy of a copy. Nobody is learning how to do this shit from first principles anymore, they're learning from their favorite animes, and those writers learned from their favorite animes and maybe a few books, and those people learned from their favorite books and movies.Everyone needs to talk to people in real life more if we want writing to get goot again
>>736999876Nintendo games are NEVER "story first". You ever wondered why mainline Zelda, Mario and co feel sooo good to play?Across interviews and developers, the consistent pattern is:>Start with core gameplay / mechanics>Make sure it is fun and feels goodThen add:>story>characters>world>graphics/designGameplay is literally the most important part for first party nintendo games. They even TOTKs main dev time was for the mechanics, just like mario kart world. Characters, levels and shit is that last 25%.
>>737000210Because reportedly, Fujibayashi provided Aonuma with a rough draft of the script expecting feedback and he didn't read it, instead declaring that it was probably alright.The problem is that Aonuma is likely the kind of guy who would prefer to push his own thing and actively hide things from his superiors that they would disagree with (this is what gave us Wind Waker after all) and he's projecting that onto others who don't need him to overlook someone shoving dead bodies into a closet and would really just prefer some real help in dismembering their first carcass.
>>737004707And that's why their games, especially Tears of the Cringedom, are dogshit and have been for 15 years.
>>737004518>Everyone needs to talk to people in real life moreHoly shit no. Every time I have to get worded at by you plebs it feels like my frontal lobe is trying to eat itself.
>>737004707>Gameplay is mid and for toddlers>Writing is dogshitgreat game
>>737004707That doesn't preclude having a good story.
>>737005316I thought you're a bot at first but you're still spamming this even after all these captcha changes.Don't fucking tell me you're doing this MANUALLY?! XD
Because Koizumi wasn't involved.
>>736999876I don't know about the Warriors games, but they literally outsourced a writer for Totk. This is the first time in mainline Zelda history.
>>737004838God Aonuma is such a hack. No wonder he hated working on MM with Koizumi
>>737000358You have to turn the difficulty up on these two games. Age of Calamity is an excellent game that way. They nerfed the AI in Imprisonment, so the high difficulty helps a lot. AOC is the better game, better story, better characters and music.
>>737008312You manually reply to each individual Anon with this same phrase over and over.You spend whole DAYS just doing this over and over.Have a happy day man. Though I don't think you have a lot of those.
>>736999876nintendo historically doesn't care about plot but these games are retarded. and the worst part is that fucking niggers defend it.
>>736999876Fujibayashi
>>737004274AoI barely sold 1 million though.
>>737000210Because they're not open world games.
>>737009668>everything cool about Ganondorf as a villain is now just the result of his lame OCReal Bioshock Infinite “Elizabeth is responsible for everything you liked about Bioshock 1” vibes here.
>>737008818Days? He's been at this since Totk came out at least. The mods used to IP ban him but I think they gave up.
>>737011369The Buddhist reincarnation bullshit from Skyward Sword ruined the main characters forever. It made people think Wind Waker Ganondorf was akshually a misunderstood tragic villain trying to break free from the cycle.
>>737011728muh tragic ganondorf is bs anyway because he beats a child in the very same cutscene and looks like he's loving every second of it.
>>737000332only good post in the whole thread
>>737012912my name is clarence
>>737000332Yo Miyamoto what yup!!!
Must...force... ZeLink...into... EVERYTHING YEAHHHHHHHHHH
>>737009668Why would you blame him when he directed the Oracle Games and Minish Cap which was utter ludokino. And Skyward Sword, for all of its failure in gameplay and design, had a splendid town hub with delightful characters, and a decently kino story.
>>736999876Zelda has never had good writing, it's nuts it took until now to realize.
>>737016748I rike dis idea! (raughs)
>>736999876It's a video game.The writing is irrelevant.
I saw the trailers for both Warriors games and they ran like shit there. Is the framerate better now?
>>736999876because its a zelda game. the writing has NEVER been good.
>>737001589>Same with Fe 3 houses/hopes vs every other fire emblem gameHoly kek
>>737005035>midYeah I'm sure you have an opinion that isn't totally worthless
>>736999876because they are games for children anon I hope this helps clear things up
