>the trailer refers to him as a male>all the promotional material depicted him as a man>the story is a much tighter narrative as a male with much better companions>"erm, ACKtually, canon Exile is a woman!"Bullshit.
too badshe's a she in the mmo
>>737003592>TOR>canonlol
>>737003525that was just Drew Karpyshyn being butthurt over getting writer-mogged by Obsidian so hard
>>737003592HK uses a blaster against Jedi.Its opinion on the matter is irrelevant
How the FUCK do I make Kotor 2 work on Windows 11? I tried every fix in pc games wiki, installed the unofficial patch and it still fucking crashes after the intro movie.
>>737004072No he doesn't.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPeI4mX8Nus&t=3
>>737003525I agree the story works much better with Revan as a woman and the exile as a guy.
>>737003525This means the exile canonically danced for the Hutts wearing a Dancer's Outfit.
>>737004202>Windows 11Couldn't be me
>>737004478No it doesn't, the Bastila romance angle is better than Carth.
>>737004478Nah, female Revans romance is the personality void that is fucking Carth
>>737003525You forgot to add:>has three different characters explicitly in love with him,>has special male-only conversations with Mira,>Atris's story makes much more sense when you add the fact she was in love with the Exile, and hates herself for not following him to the war,>>737003525This >>737004003, it was confirmed by Avellone he did it out of pure spite.
My wife
>>737003525Exile's canon gender is so universally ignored it might as well not be canon. I don't think she's even called that in SWTOR by anyone.
>>737005018>it might as well not be canonIt's literally not, since Disney de-canonized everything. Darth Revan was added later on into their own excuse for a canon via a separate source, and he's definitely male.
>>737005062Disney canon is also universally ignored due to how shit their trilogy and everything else about it is.
>>737005126Correct. When the "canon" is as shit as it is I stop being bound by it, and instead I just pick and choose the stuff I like. I guess this is how protestantism came to be.
>>737004975>confirmed by AvelloneWell you can't just say that and not post a screenshot or a link
>>737004975Atria works just as well as girlboss atris seething/admirin about exile in a foidly way and destroying herself
>>737005126>>737005549>blEedINg liGHtSaBEr crYsTAls
>>737005126>>737005549I stopped giving a shit about Star Wars canon when Lucas decided to give Anakin an annoying Scrappy Doo padawan that didn't exist in the films.
>>737003525bro have you not played the sequel?
>>737008929Disney be like>acktually lightsaber crystals are alive and aligned with the light side of the Force so if you want to do evil things with your lightsaber you have to torture the lightsaber crystal into compliance otherwise your own fucking sword will resist you>don't worry about why this never happened in the movies
>>737009198There is no KotOR 3.
>>737009234Because even in the comics where Vader is on his quest to find a crystal to corrupt he uses a regular Jedi saber just fine. It's just something the Sith do as a rite of shitting on anything the Jedi do.
>>737009618According to the Acolyte it's just something that happens if you're upset enough
>>737009234no idea why they thought this was better than the synthetic vs natural crystals thingvery odd choice
>>737009573
>>737010250Synthetic crystals was also dumb. Do Jedi really have such a monopoly on lightsaber crystals that the Sith can never get at them? Of course not, nobody has that sort of control over anything. Plus the Sith were always about violence, take a crystal from a dead Jedi. Or another Sith.
>>737009573bro where have you been?we had kotor 3: the jedi masters for years now
>>737010620Sir MandaDad! ...or something
>>737010419The sith requiring a jedi's crystal is easily the most idiotic non ST disney idea they came up with.A group specifically in hiding from the Jedi, to the point that their mere existence getting hinted at would completely fuck up their plans and get them exterminated, requiring an apprentice to kill one is stupid enough.Doing it consistently for at least a thousand years is pants on head retarded.Sith might be power hungry and egotistical, but they're not that dumb. Especially not for the sake of a tool they don't even need as much as a Jedi does.Crystals being enough of a pain in the ass that they find it easier to make their own makes far more sense than risking their very existence for no reason every time they get an apprentice.
>>737010754Palpatine sends Maul after two Jedi, twice, and despite having proof the Sith are still around what did the Order do in 10 years? Apparently sweet fuck all.Jedi die. They go missing. Criminals and bounty hunters kill them. And with the Rule of Two there's never really more that two or three Sith at one time, in a galaxy of trillions. It's not unreasonable that killing inexperienced Knights or Padawans in the Outer Rim is a Baneite Sith rite of passage. Or they could steal their lightsabers if they're going bitchmode.
>>737004805>>737004865That's why you write female Raven who romances Bastilla
>>737010419Sith used synthetic crystals in the EU because they're ever so slightly stronger than natural crystals
>>737011093That was at the culmination of all the work of a thousand years, at the point where the Jedi were at their weakest point in history, when Palpatine had consolidated power to the point where suspicion wouldn't mean shit. That's not the same as, for a thousand years, mandating your trainees assassinate Jedi for no good reason and hoping you get away with it. They're not just making an apprentice prove themself, but risking themselves and everyone who comes after every time they do it.That's just recklessly stupid for a group that went into hiding after it became clear brute force wasn't working.Which, again, is why the alternative of them just making their own crystals makes far more sense.
>>737003525Blame Drew Karpyshyn, fucking hack who couldn't handle that KOTOR II was a better script
Female Exile is cooler thoughbeit
>>737004805Carth - femRevan romance banter is better but it takes time to fully reveal itself, it mostly happens towards the end of the second act and in the third. With Bastila everything happens sooner.
>>737003525The Exile is Revan's onahole and therefore a woman.
Female Dark Side Revan who mindbreaks Bastila, Mission and Juhani with Force Powered lesbian sex followed by Light Side Space Jesus Exile is the correct way to play.
>>737011383We're still talking about one or two Jedi every few years, at most. It's not a big number. There are thousands of Jedi at any one time and the galaxy is a very big place. The Rule of Two is there to make the Sith below the notice of the Jedi Order which has occupied itself with keeping the Republic functioning, not training generations of Sith in total, absolute secrecy in the middle of nowhere so no Jedi ever even hears the word "Sith" again. How exactly are the Sith supposed to take themselves seriously if every Master told every Apprentice to be scared of the Jedi and never go near them because it will ruin everything but also the Sith are totally going to rise again and overthrow them someday (it's just not going to be me or you doing it).Of course Sith killed Jedi after Bane got his panties in a bunch. It's literally against the very nature of the Dark Side and Sith philosophy to cower and do nothing. Fear, anger and hate need an outlet or the Sith would just kill themselves off.
>>737005014Your wife owes me sex
>>737011667My point isn't that it's not doable, just a completely pointless risk for no gain a sith would value. The rule of two was specifically made to breed out the prideful stupidity that forced sith into pointlessly fighting jedi for no gain, since every time that happened the Jedi always won from numerical superiority. They take themselves seriously because they know they're better man for man and believe they've got a better philosophy, not because they have dick waving contests.Bane and Zannah both killed Jedi when they needed to, but they didn't do it at their weakest point and did so to advance a goal, not out of tradition.Bane forced Zannah to kill civilians as a training exercise for a reason.
>>737003525Imagine being this insecure 20 years after the fact. Couldn't be me.
>>737003525Female RevanMale ExileAny other combination is wrong.>But muh heckin romancerino!Download a mod then
You realize KoTOR2 is an incredibly unfinished game, right?
>>737004003>>737011442You're both retards, Karpyshyn had nothing to do with it. When do you think the Exile was first stated to be a woman, idiots? Because it sure as fuck wasn't SWTOR or the Revan novel.
>>737011983>says it's not the Revan novel (every hit on Google says it is)>doesn't say what it wasYeah I'm going with it being the Revan novel, actually.
>>737011983Correct, the Exile was canonically a woman since 2008 >>737012116Retard
Revan and Exile are both male. Canon is make believe and irrelevant. I choose what the story is. You can't take it out of my head.Do not empower people with stupid shit like "canon".
>>737012184Canon isn't real. It's all made up. The Exile is whatever your story was.
>>737012215You are a faggot and your opinion is worth less than dirt lol.
>>737008893Atris keeping Exile's lightsaber only makes sense if she sleeps with it under the pillow and uses it a substitute for his dick.
>>737012116>every hit on Google says it isJesus fucking Christ we're so fucking doomed.
>>737011624>>737011141Fuck off yuritards
>>737012116According to my google fu it was first revealed in a Droid sourcebook of all things
>>737012184>wizards of the coastFigures those faggots would pick the Exile’s sex to be what makes the least amount of sense
>>737012184>since 2008 Try 2006. 2005's The New Essential Chronology established Revan as a man and 2006's The New Essential Guide to Droids established the Exile as a woman.
>>737003525The same thing happened with Cyberpunk 2077. All the marketing and trailers focused on male V , the narrative is much better with male V, male V even has the only romance in the game who doesn’t dump your ass at the end. But a few years after the game came out CD Project Red did a complete 180 and started giving all the attention to Fem V, even replacing the cover art with her.
>>737012417not even a yuritard I just have an evil woman and corruption fetish and evil women turning girls out in degrading ways gets me off
>>737012215We've been over this a hundred times at this point, but it makes sense to differentiate Exile and Revan through gender to highlight all their other differences as well. They are in many ways depicted as mirror images of one another by kotor 2. Exile is often victimized, doesn't hold any cards, has strange eldritch powers and gets strength from deepening connection to others. Revan, by contrast, is depicted as a machiavellian doer, alone and all-powerful in a natural way, instead being the one to victimize others. Exile was a poor general, getting destroyed by war, while this activity came naturally to Revan. Exile has the power of empathy, while Revan has the power of autism. Classical male/female divergences are depicted over and over. "Step away from her!" Etc. exile fits much better as a female, so you can better get in character and understand all those times exile is knocked unsconscious, needing men to protect her and evoking those feelings unconsciously or otherwise. The need to have a strong group to protect yourself is also a typically female coded trait, as is the whole influence system. Revan, naturally, cannot "influence" any companion, nor does he wish to. He simply batters them with logical arguments until they submit to him. Male exile doesn't make sense just like female Revan is an impossibility.
>>737013205Anon what the fuck are you talking about
Why is /v/ so obsessed with male/female choice in RPGs and "canon"?
>>737013432Dunno honestly. I mean the Dragonborn in Skyrim is canonically a Nord Male but that doesn’t stop people from headcanoning him as a big titty Argonian slut
>>737003525Stop trying to suck the fun out of RPGs, kid. Stop it.
>>737010620ah, good times
>>737013205WisdomPea-brains wont get it. The only major flaw with femxile is being saddled with Disciple who is fuckin worse than bao dur while Handmaiden plays a strong narrative role.
>>737013941and grips strongly
>>737004202exit steam, run the steam .exe in admin mode or run the kotor2.exe in admin mode directly wala
>>737003525>Obsidian>Originally male character later referred to as female Are you honestly surprised?
>>737009198TOR btfo'ing Revan self-inserters was hilarious.
>>737013205You're a faggot and a nigger.The story of the Exile is of a war-scarred veteran whose one outstanding act sent ripples throughout the galaxy, of doing something every Jedi and Sith thought utterly impossible. It's a story of a traumatized outsider who stepped outside lines laid out by his peers, which is inherently male.Your whole spiel about connections falls flat when said act is willingly cutting himself off from the Force in order to retain his sense of self, then going back to the Council and confronting them about his actions - all actions completely inimical for women.The "wound in the Force" that he is was, by Avellone's own admission, an allegory for PTSD experienced by war veterans.Kreia works much better as a mentor and a mother figure for a male Exile, especially her inherent cynicism about other women. Atris works far better for a male Exile, because it intertwines her conflicted nature as a Jedi and as a woman in love with someone she should despise.Handmaiden is just superior to the Disciple.Visas Marr works far better as a willing slave who grows to love a man who heals her broken spirit.And, again, Mira has entire conversations that are unique for a male Exile. His female counterpart gets jack shit.
>>737014546>game says exile is a woman>canon says exile is a woman>writers reiterate that exile is a woman>mmo confirms exile is a woman>migger on 4chan>EXILE IS NOT A WOMAN
>>737014684>>game says exile is a womanno>>737014684>>canon says exile is a womanno, WotC aren't the IP holders>>writers reiterate that exile is a womankarpyshyn who was butthurt about KOTOR2>>mmo confirms exile is a womannobody caresYou are a faggot and a nigger.
>>737014546Exile is a very weak male or a normal woman. You can choose yourself. Story simply works better if she is female. Story, themes, visuals, thematically speaking etc etc You can play as le ebin jedi jeesus if you want but it's objectively worse than fem exile
>>737014996>Story simply works better if she is female.>gives you disciple instead of picrelated
>>737015112Hamdmaiden is fanservice. Its just as satisfying having the boys fight over you as having a little triangle drama with visas and brianna
>>737015257>Hamdmaiden is fanservice.False. Her taking Kreia to Telos secret academy at least makes sense.
>>737014996>Chad male Exile is objectively worse then foid Exile How can someone be so mind numbingly retarded?
>>737015316Disciple clues the Republic in on everything going on and makes the finale happen. I can play this game too
>>737014996>Chad male Exile is objectively worse than foid Exile How can someone be so mind numbingly retarded?
>>737014996>accepts the consequences of his actions and takes steps to correct them and serve penance>normal woman
>>737003592All the more reason to ignore it and don't even get me started on Drew's dogshit book.
>>737015407>chad Objectively a failure as a man. Exile being a broken hearted, weak foid from having been in war once a decade ago at least makes sense. Exile was a bleeding heart empath that couldn't hack it in mass combat. Revan, meanwhile, is portrayed as a cold blooded autist casually ordering the deaths of millions. You can be playing as the inferior male that literally will never stand up to greatness or you can play as a woman. Is the latter really that unacceptable to your shitty headcanon?
It's a game with choice, so there can't be a canon. It's whatever you want it to be. It's your story. You can't have something be a fact of fake happen. Retarded concept to begin with. But when the story gives a choice, it is especially thrown out the window. >no no, this is how it happened-didn't-happenNo such thing as canon. Believe what you want. >REEEEE EXILE WAS A WOMANNot for me. Go cry bitch nigger.
>>737015493>literally gives up and is permanently broken from a little combat >returns a gaping maw of nothing and lacks all drive Makes sense for a woman.
>>737004478>woman>tactical genius>natural leaderI'll believe in the actual Force before I believe that
>>737003525The Future is Female chud
>>737015665Yes, we are well aware of why the franchise turned to shit.
>>737015665>the future is fuckedSounds about right
>>737004478>the greatest military tactitian in Star Wars history>a womanlmao get out of here Dave, you cowboy hat wearing, dog fucking queer
>erm, ACKtually, canon Exile is a womanwhy should i care for what troons, niggers and jews consider as a canon?
