JRPG chads, how would you rate Valkyrie Profile?
Very high. Love the gameplay and atmosphere of VP. Seeing all the souls you recruit in their final moments was pure kino. Pity the sequel went off to do its own weird thing with a shit story and grinding enemies for parts and all that garbage. Covenant of the Plume felt more in line with the original VP than Silmeria did
Solid 7.5/10 when it comes to PS1 JRPGs. Too many flaws that I'd rate it higher. Definitely worth a playthrough as the art and music are superb. While the second game improved in gameplay, it seriously regressed in those two aforementioned areas.
>>737005461I love it aside from the endgame turning into abusing Guts like crazy, so I give it a high rating.
9/10 it's an absolutely fantastic game. Sadly some really bad design choices prevent it from being a true 10/10 like the extremely obtuse upgrade system and generally the absolute and complete unclarity of how your actions exactly affect the story and consequently the process of getting the true ending. Even if you have a guide to follow, it's just an extremely unpleasant process of an otherwise fantastic game.
>>737005461Solid 8/10. Dubs could have been a lot better, but I'll take what I can get.
>>737005820>he doesnt like IT SHALL BE ENGRAVED UPON YOUR SOUL>>737005461Its kino. Shame what happened to the series.
>>737005820Come on, you didn't like hearing Ash Ketchum and Gary Oak in cutscenes and combat? 10,000 deaths isn't enough for you!
9/10. It's the most perfect jrpg to this day, the only big issue is how the combat can be trivialized by magic commands. The mages get to use those OP wands that are balanced with how they break when using super magic but that's not gonna happens if you do AOE attacks that will usually kill most enemies or close enough, even on Hard the game is pretty easy, clearly they just overlooked this because otherwise it's amazing. beside needing a guide to see the true ending lolWhat sucks is VP2 fixes this and has amazing combat, but the game drops everything that otherwise makes VP1 so perfect gib Hrist's game NOW SQUARE FUCK YOU
Doing it for the first time. Is it worth playing blind the first time or should I look up the true ending gibberish on the first go? I know the purist way is the former but I am willing to go either way.
>>7370054614/10No lewd chicks
>>737005619>While the second game improved in gameplay, it seriously regressed in those two aforementioned areas.Art is subjective because it went from 2D to 3D and there were no more drawings but the graphics were gorgeous for its time and the music was amazing.And gameplay is subjective too because many preferred the first over the second.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERIV6rjJFo4
>>737005461I think the game gets progressively worse as it goes because the dungeons start getting more platformy and that doesn't feel great, the difficulty is all over the place. one of my favourite games.
>>737005461Very uneven. Character stories are moving, combat and dungeons are fun but guts and auto-item make fights extremely easy. More about building up combos for extra xp/items than struggling to win.True story path absurdly obaque. Did anyone find it without guides?>>737006167Blind. The regular ending has a unique dungeon and is still worth seeing. Adds to the true ending if anything. Do try to investigate a bit on your own in the off chance you get onto the true path.
The combat system is novel for its time and really flashy but is just okay and barely even RPG combat, Tri-Ace just set the standards for themselves with this and pretty much every single turn based game they'll do will polish and iterate on what VP originally tried to achieve.The music is some of Sakuraba's finest before he started to phone it in and is definitely one of his most iconic and varied works.Graphics wise it's goddamn beautiful and hasn't aged a day, easily one of the best looking games of its time and still a great looking game today.Writing wise it's a really solid game if you like character focused stuff, all of the Einherjar offer something nice and they act as small windows on a grander setting that is explored indirectly through their stories in a pretty elegant way, the variety and diverse backgrounds of its recruitable cast is great as you can go from absolute irredeemable villains like Gandar to innocent victims of circumstances like Shiho or tragic characters like Suo or Janus who try to atone for the sins they committed while they were alive, there's even just pure suffering porn like Nanami or Yumei, it's just masterclass and you're bound to find at least one story that really sticks with you.Lenneth herself is a pretty cool heroine and a very interesting main character to play as especially since outside of having a cool design her character and story is explored in an interesting way that isn't at all cliché despite using one of the most tired and overused tropes of all time, amnesia, unfortunately the game itself has a couple of really obscure triggers for getting the true ending that end up souring a lot of people.All in all, a truly ambitious game and well worth playing even if it's mechanically very flawed.After you'll play it and every time you'll listen to thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaY5egkwjFkYou'll want to yell TO MY SIDE MY NOBLE EINHERJAR>>737006083>gib Hrist's gameNEVEREVER
One of the 10 best rpg on the psx.Story is intriguing.Characters are usually meh.Music is top-tier.Gameplay is great, but it's too japanish: you can destroy huge monsters in two hits or have your whole team wiped in a few attacks depending on bullshit items. I love trying to get as many crystals as I can.Dub is good to me, usually pretty solemn but I like it.The dying characters scenes are pretty damned long. Too long for me, considering all those backstories are lost, as those characters have zero impact on the story, you just level them up and send them on their merry way to Valhalla.The whole artefacts things is interesting, but there's no way to know what each artifact does before sending it up or keeping it.I still haven't played 2. Is it worth it? 3D turns me off.
Some JRPG staples like exploration and walking in towns are absent or pointless because of the time limit. The time limit might turn away some players. The method to getting the real ending is impossible to discover without a guide.That said the combat is great, dungeon platforming and puzzles are fun. Tons of characters with cool animations. The voice acting is cheesy but full of SOUL.
Could've been better if it was fully turn based and had lower numbers.
>>737006267>And gameplay is subjective too because many preferred the first over the second.I think you meant to quote the other guy. I greatly prefer the gameplay of the first game to the sequel. I really didn't like combat in the sequel, it felt tedious and less fast paced
FINISHING STRIKEFINAL BLAST
>20 bucks on PS Store, with an special 50% discount baby!>for a game you could easily emulate on PCFucking thieves, i swear>>737006167Always blind. Explore on your own, try to no fall for easy mistakes or obvious bad choicesAt the end of the day, to be constantly depending on a guide diminishes the fun significantly.>>737005619>>737006267>>737006457Same question about both VP2 Silmeria and Elysium for the PS4/5Does it get that bad in terms of story, gameplay or 3D graphics?
This game is like 95% cutscenes and anyone who defends the awful dungeon design and platforming is literally insane. I think this game is what made me realize jrpg fans were actually just retarded faggots, this is a literal 0/10 game
>>737006840>VP2 Silmeriavp2 has an interesting story and keeps it up well. graphically, it looks absolutely gorgeous on the pcsx2. it was the most demanding game, i believe next to shadow of the collossus, for a very long time. it runs smooth now. tri-ace improved on pretty much everything; especially the combat. if you liked it in 1 you will love it in 2. while others mention grind in some negative way, i actually liked to go around towns, check out vendors and their crafting table and then go into the wilds and gather those items for some nice weapon and armor. and you can go back to bosses' places and fight them again for boss loot. the game can make you sink some serious hours and it is addicting.
>>737005461absolute classiclike, a true classic
>>737007015Sorry brother, I fucking love VP and VP2's dungeons/platforming. VP2's Seraphic Gate has more enjoyable platforming than a lot of platformers.
>>737006523>I think you meant to quote the other guy.You're right, I was retarded.Yeah, the combat in the second game felt very awkward. The whole 3D environment "stop-go" dynamic just didn't feel very natural. It's like they wanted to have a weird compromise between turn-based and 3D action like Star Ocean when they should've just fully committed to one thing.
>>737005461the setting reminded me a lot of House in Fata Morgana. this grim dark ages with sentimental undertones is greatly realized. the japs really know how to honor the historical cultural commons of white people. unlike semites who defecate into them on a daily basis.
>>737006520I wonder if the original release contained a guide. I recall some games had printed guides, at least special editions.
>>737005461Genuinely some the coolest turn based combat in a JRPGIn case I have to explain you make each party member attack with a face button, the idea is to combo them to build gauge for an ultimate it's super simple yet feels good and I wish it had been iterated on more
>>7370054611/E33
>>737007307Included*
>impossible to get the good true ending unless you use a guide Into the garbage it goes. It doesn't matter how good your characters or writing is. That garbage is an instant fast track to the bin.
>>737005461It's one of the best PS1 RPGs.>>737006457>I still haven't played 2. Is it worth it? 3D turns me offIt's a much weaker game in terms of story and characters, and it's structured more like a typical JRPG. The combat mechanics are technically better, but the game is even more poorly balanced than VP1 somehow, so you're likely to end up accidentally breaking the game at some point and becoming invincible. It also has less interesting dungeons. The visuals are pretty nice, though I still prefer the first game in that regard.Overall, I don't recommend VP2. It's a less unique game that doesn't capture the same appeal, which I would forgive if it was at least better executed than the original, but it largely isn't.
Do we have a good undub or are we still stuck in between a bad undub or shit american dub ?i honestly don't even remember what was the issue with the undub but i remember it having some big problems
>>737007015>>737007384>>737007472yep, the rage-baiters are in yet another thread. classic /vpol/
>>737007194Isn't this an otome VN?
>>737007472Thanks. Is there any game somehow similar to the first game that you'd recommend?
>>737007634it has otome elements but i would not say it is otome.
>>737005461it's a "bad" game.Atmosphere is great, sprites are good, mechanics and artstyle is unique, however...Main narrative starts for a moment then immediately stops and only resumes once you're 80% through with the game.Character stories are nice but oncee you're done with them the character completely disappears (you got them but it's just another unit they don't add anything to the game).Dungeons, especially the first ones fucking suck.For some reason Hard mode is the easiest mode and Easy is the hardest.
>>737005461It's been many years since I played it, and I only played it once, but I remember the gameplay and story being really good an innovative back then.
>>737007610How the fuck is it ragebait when it's the honest truth? How much of the board has to be these super boring rpg threads where some retard pretends the laziest gameplay ever designed is great? I'm scrolling down and like the entire catalogue is this garbage. It's like after captchas broke everyone that actually plays games left and the only people desperate enough for attention to sit around and deal with this are the retards who would consume rpgs
>>737007693Can you explain the elements without spoilers? I have thought about reading it a few times but the otome label really puts me off.
>>737007693Without spoilers can you explain the otome elements? I have thought about reading it a few times but the otome label puts me off.
>>737007804>>737007921This fucking site sucks, the captchas break my shit all the time now.
>>737007384Virgin "dodge when the enemy says so"VSChad "build your own combos"No wonder VP mindbreaks E33 babies
Testing, what the fuck is happening with 4chan
>>737006083Hrist VA is dead. You cannot bring her back now, it's TOO LATEFUCK SQUARE ENIX, FUCK YOU
>>737005461Nibelung Valesti/10Loved it
>>737006083Nice criticism a shame if someon said:SHADOW SERVANT!And hit everyone 3 times for a fuckton of damage.
Any more games that tried that "face button to attack, try to juggle the enemies to build up a combo" of VP?Weird as it sounds I really liked Indivisible, and i think the more fluid "metroidvania" movement is what would be needed to fix a lot of the issues i had with navigating the dungeons in VP
>>737005461fantastic/10completely fucked in regards to balance. easy is the hardest endgame as you won't have access to the strongest weapons, normal is plain useless and hard is hardly any different from normal, but gives the orbs to unlock the post game dungen special charactersi think the only difference between normal and hard is that you get every characted on lv 1 on hard. but you get so much more exp from world events it doesn't even matterso yeah, play on hard
https://youtu.be/2_O7vDclp2I?si=Pa_qSn97z4KdYaE2&t=1507VP1 has an amazing soundtrack
>>7370054619/10Excellent game, albeit much too easy. Lezard the greatest of all time.
>>737008714Starting at level 1 is entirely an upside due to Bracelet of Zoe, I don't think they thought it out that much.Obviously everyone plays on Hard anyways
>>737005938Hurts knowing a good fucking number of VP1's dub cast is dead. We lost Misty, Meoth/Oak, Jessie.
>>737007725>Main narrative starts for a moment then immediately stops and only resumes once you're 80% through with the game.I can see this perspective maybe if you missed the story but shit starts building up in Chapter 4 with Brahms and Lezard and him dropping hints that Lenneth isn't who she thinks she is. Then she meets Lucian in Chapter 5. This is all well before 80%, which would be Chapter 7.>Character stories are nice but oncee you're done with them the character completely disappears (you got them but it's just another unit they don't add anything to the game).That is kind of the unique nature of the game, being about death instead of typical JRPG power of friendship. Lenneth is a glorified military recruiter and her recruits are dead so their lives are over. They're just waiting to be chosen for Asgard, so they really are "just a unit". Elysium ironically kind of addresses this because you have a camp/base in Asgard where you can interact with them so they don't just "disappear" but then they nerfed them in every other meaningful way gameplay-wise because they're just summons instead of real party members, so it's basically a one-player action game.
>>737005461unfinished/10Shit had so many loose plot points it was downright weird
>>737006167Gonna disagree with the other guys. It's not good enough to warrant two playthroughs so you're better off checking a guide if you don't wanna have to watch the true ending on youtube. You're absolutely not getting it without a guide.
>>737008265Yeah, the Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Endless Frontier games for the NDS
>>737005461Heard it was super good. I tried it for about two or threee hours and then dropped it cause I found it boring.
>>737010931I was absolutely filtered by this game. To this day I don't know if I was playing it wrong or if it requires obscene amounts of grinding.
>>737008265namco x capcom
>>737005461>mfw VP2 dropped the interim parts between chapters
>>737006223>Aelia>Mystina
>>7370054617/10Amazing visuals and soundtrack, fine battle system, interesting little sideplots, atrocious everything else. The game gets worse and worse as it goes on, relying on its jank platforming and progressively annoying as fuck dungeon design to make the last half of the game an aggravating chore.
>>7370054617/10Amazing visuals and soundtrack, fine battle system, interesting little sideplots, atrocious everything else. The game gets worse and worse as it goes on, relying on its jank platforming and progressively annoying as fuck dungeon design to make the last half of the game an aggravating chore. >posting takes so long the captcha expires firstfix your fucking site, retards
>>737015429Not his fault that Lenneth only left the loli body for him.
>>737009241Shame tha even if you lvl someone through all the way from lvl1 with bracelets, it's still not enough hp to survive late game without depending on auto-revives.
>>737015580Nothing but Great Magic turns will one turn anybody with bracelet stacking, but I agree that the end game mostly turning into Guts+Auto Item spam is pretty lame. I'm working on a run with both banned and it's a lot more fun.
>>737015429What a chad!
>>737013336>VP>little to no grinding required, genius rpg design>VP2>grinding for every little things: the game
>>737007804You play as a Valkyrie recruiting handsome guys (not gay) as Einherjar
>>737017516gay.I guess that explains the 10/10 reviews lol. I've been wondering about this, very curious how VNs basically don't exist for the journo cattle but as soon as you date dudes it's goty.
>>737007457Qrd?I thought all you needed was to play on hard mode?
It's a visual novel for girls.
>>737017910You have play on Normal/Hard, send a certain very obvious character to Asgard, and get your seal value below 37 before a certain point lategame.It's not really that cryptic since the story suggests the seal might not be so good, but nobody would get it if they're just playing without thinking about it.
>>737007457>filtered by clockwork mansionSkill issue. Also it was par for the course for games to do this shit in order to sell strategy guides (before GameFAQs btfo them for good).
>>737005461Only played the first one.It's got the same problem as all tri-ace games:Presentation - Excellent.Gameplay/Design - Mediocre. Bad dungeon design, terrible platforming and controls/handling.Writing - Poor. cluttered plot and terrible characterisation. Unbelievably slow pacing.Localization/Voice acting/Dialogue - Atrocious6/10... 7 if i'm being generous.
>>737018207play the game again and make different choices?
>>737018258>terrible platforming and controls/handlingSkill issue, it works great.>>737015740I have zero memories of Big L. going back to time and everything. But it's been many years since I played.
How do you think a VP remake would do in the modern era?
>>737018695you are a faggot along with the people that wanted a fft remake
>>737008265SRW Endless Frontier games, Namco x Capcom, Project X Zone 1 and 2
Nibelung Valesti/10
>>737018695the same as the star ocean 2 remakester
>>737005461>90's Anime Cartoon All Stars to the Rescue.One of the few games where the English VA's completely overshadows the game, they must have got every Dub Actor working at the time and told them to just do the voice from than famous anime you're working on regardless on if it was a good fit for the character or story.The game itself is good but slightly too obtuse, you can fuck up your save to easily. Because of poorly explained mechanics and choices.Lenneth is babe with the worst taste in men. It should be illegal to pair female leads with sissy men.
>>7370054618/10 but it has so much soul that its elevated beyond the score, it was something special that should have been refined as a series
Lenneth is so pretty bros
>>737006840>>737007378Is the gameplay for this similar to Project x Zone and Namco x Capcom?
Silmeria looks better. PS1/N64 games don't look good.
>>737018565That's probably the idea but since the game is so long many people won't want to replay it for another ending. Though if you keep separate saves by chapter it's rather easy to run it back.The C (bad) ending pretty much flat out says what you have to do.
>>737007378>When you add Brahms and Freya to your team and finally pull off the ultimate combo with themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmVJRIueHU4
>>737019096It's a 2d game, though. Only 3d games from that era aged like milk.
>>737018207I wonder how many people just started the game without even viewing the prologue first. If they're so uninquisitive that they just start the game immediately then they'd have no idea that Lenneth is really a human named Platina and that her memories are obviously gone, so of course they wouldn't have any concept of trying to "guide" her back to her real self, like revisiting the Weeping Lilly Meadow, or any curtosity about her "Seal Rating".At the risk of sounding pretentious I think VP is the original "2deep4u" RPG which is why many people find it underwhelming or say it's impossible to get the good ending without a guide because it asks you to pay attention and question everything and not just simply do what you're told and turn your brain off. You know who Lenneth really is but you have to help her rediscover it and you won't do that just by following orders like a sheep from Freya.>>7370186955 They already ported it to PS4 years ago, I think that's good enough. I don't trust Shit-Enix to treat this franchise well again after Elysium. I'd love a VP2 remaster but I'm not hopeful for that either. One of the many reasons I loathe the merger too because I truly feel Square has intentionally gimped VP in favor of FF.>>737019227I replayed earlier this year and reached the end in 54 hours, compared to E33 which I'm well over 100h in for 100%.P.S. Fix this fucking website, why is it easier to post from phone than from desktop right now?
>>737008265The game the VP devs made that played similar to VP.
>>737019826It's mixed and it shows.Meanwhile Silmeria looks better than games from today.
VN with some repetitive gameplay, 7/10.
>>737005461Excellent. I love both games to death. 10/10 for both Lenneth and Silmeria.In fact thank you for reminding me of it, I am going to replay Silmeria this very day.
>NIBELUNG MOLEST MEWhat did she mean by this?
>>737005461>>737005461Does anyone have the voice clips for this game?Given the quality of the voice acting, I'm surprised this isn't available at Sounds Resource.
