OMG WHAT THE FUCKGARRY NEWMANI GUESS WE KNOW HOW YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY, TELLS US WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE GAMES ON SOURCE 2 WITH S&B BOX THEN RESTRICTS ACCESS TO YOUR GAME BEFORE RELEASE TO FORCE US TO BUY IT.YO THAT WILL BE 100 USDUnreal is free, I'm going back.
Good luck getting a refund.
>>737009139based, you should show your dev progress
>>737009139I bought 2 pairs of gloves for like 2€ from the skin store and sold one of the pairs for around 4€ on the marketplace, can't revoke my access now and I made a profit, fuck-o
>>737009139>GARRY NEWMANHere in my carI feel safest of all
>announces access might be revoked for those who don't have enough play time and/or haven't developed any games/content>get upset when this happens because you didnt fulfill the requirementsYou only have yourself to blame. Also it's going to be $20, that's a steal for what is basically the source 2 sdk with no restrictions.
>>737009676>get game for free>don't play itSurely I'll pay money for the game I didn't play.....
I played it for like 15 minutes then forgot it even existed until I got this message.Garry loves getting fame and money from other peoples work, he saw it happened with gmod and realized he could make money from it, which is why he monetized skins in Rust. Skins which players of the game created for free while he made money from them. Not only that, but he also blacklisted servers that used plugins which allowed players to use server sided skins they didn't own. The same thing is going to happen in s&box too; players will do the work, they will create the games and skins and Garry will be there to take the profits from them like a good like jewDespite having almost 3k hours in gmod, I'm not buying this "game"Garry Newman can suck my fat cock
>>737010454I didn't play it because it was fucking SHIT
>>737009139I bought a shitty 3 buck cosmetic so I wouldn't get this messagebetter than paying the 20 bucks for this crap
>>737010774So how does Garry profit from letting people use s&box to create standalone games that people can release on steam disconnected from s&box itself without any kind of licensing or royalties?
>>737009139Garry is a thief and a liar, I seriously hope this crashes and burns.
>beta test ends>WHAT THE FUCK I DESERVE THE GAME FOR FREE!!
>>737009591Based.
>>737009139isn't this going to be free soon?
>>737009139>Got access years ago>Didn't touch it>Started playing after the blog post>Still have it
>>737010774Everything you said is factual and true, he even has discord followers who exist in an echo chamber and Garry can do no wrong in their eyes, they will eat up whatever bullshit Garry comes up with.
>>737010774yeah I played like a couple of hours back when I got first access but never bothered to play it again until now and even then I only reinstalled it so I could buy the cosmetics and get free access
>>737009676>source 2 SDKI wish, he mangled it and cobbled it together with Unity or Unreal or some shit.Valve needs to put out Hammer2 and the Source 2 SDK
>>737009676>source 2 SDKI wish, he mangled it and cobbled it together with Unity or Unreal or some shit.Valve needs to put out Hammer2 and the Source 2 SDK.SERIOUSLY HIROSHIMOOT FIX YOUR FUCKING SITE
>>737011829It literally comes with the source 2 hammer editor. S&box itself is a weird wrapper engine for source 2, it's not using unreal or unity.
>>737009139We must be newer men
>>737009676He said people who played a lot recently will keep it. I left the game open throughout this week and I still got revoked
>>737012367Yeah I was mistaken, it uses some rubikon shit.I didn't know it comes w/ hammer so that's cool, but I have very little faith in S&box performance as a platform like Garry wants/expects. You can't be Roblox post Roblox, it already exists.>but this is different, it's fully open source and supports active hotloading Is cool but it's not Roblox, Garry was better off porting Gmod to source2 and calling it a day
>I feel uncomfortable with occasional flops so I'm going to go inna woods and never deal with people againThis is what you sound like
>>737012657yeah you had to buy microtransactions or maybe publish a game to keep accesshe didn't say anything about that until after, though
>ok garry, here's source 2 go ahead and sell it for 20$what did valve mean by this
>>737009139typical nigger, can't own up to jackshit
>>737009139Who caresI want the games not the e-whore drama
>>737009139it was still broken as fuck the last time i launched it a week ago, kinda doubt the retail version is going to be fixed so quickly
>>737009139>Helllloooooooo Gaaaarry
>>737011829>>737011864Samefagyes he needs to fix this fucking site
>>737009139How did source 2 community/mod potential fall into the hands of one man instead of like, a big fat beta or some kind of sdk for the COMMUNITYDid GAYry cry to GAYBE? Now we're stuck with G-Roblox
>>737015234If I had to guess, it's that Valve has spread itself pretty thin with bigger more interesting projectsDeadlockVRSteam machine/controller 2Dota2/CS2 on the comeupLinux/Deck supportThe moneyprinter sticker/crate factoryhalf life
Nobody who had beta access has any right to pretend to be an unreasonable gaylord about it.The whole reason it was in the beta system for so long was BECAUSE garry wanted to be able to steal copies from anyone he didn't like which is why the ecosystem is a dead shithole of roblox game clones.
>>737012667>Garry was better off porting Gmod to source2 and calling it a dayI don't think that would have made a difference, it would have never been fully compatible with existing addons, and source 2 was missing so much functionality that the amount of work needed meant it would never be free, so regardless I doubt people would have switched.
I wasn't planning on using it anyway
>>737010968>So how does Garry profit from letting people use s&box to create standalone games that people can release on steam disconnected from s&box itself without any kind of licensing or royalties?He will get a cut of revenue from all of the games that first release on his platform WHILE they are on his platform.Imagine you make a small friendslop game, publish it to s@box, after a few months of updates and increasing player count you realize you might be able to develop it into a stand alone project. You introduce microtransactions to support development of the standalone game, and Garry gets a nice chunk of the cash from ever transaction that occurs.
>>737012667rubikon is VALVE'S OWN PHYSICS ENGINE FOR SOURCE 2 retardBut actually it uses box3d now, the details kinda strange about it and they said some strange stuff about it but supposedly it's planned to be open source version of rubikon physics, but it's now only available as part of s&box. dunno.
>>737015234Because he wouldn't waste valve's time asking for bug fixes and general engine support stuff, that's why. They do actually closely work with him, giving him the newest tech, but as i understand it's mostly for testing? box3d physics engine as i understand is some valve dev personal project for now, but it's already battle tested in s&box, they also gave out new vrad compiler, and worked together on faster shader compilation (which is valve+khronos group work being tested in s&box i think?)
>>737009139i wanted to try it out like 4 years ago but couldn't get access so i gradually just stopped caring about itthen garry revealed the default "sausage" characters and i became even less interestedthen randomly i was given access and i still didn't care about it loland THEN just now i had my access revoked and i still don't care about it lmao
>>737009139>year of our lord>trusting that grifter
garry is a colossal faggot
>>737009139No one wants anything to do with those default ugly ass Fanboy & Chum Chum sausage people models the guy made
>>737009591>>737011002https://youtu.be/vWbhpqxLHVE
>>737009139He is trying to use reverse psychology to trick us into playing his shitty game full of cookie clicker clones and afk tycoon farm simulators. Will it work?
test
Isn't this skummy
>>737009139why did you censor your picture, you loser?
>all my friends on steam lost access to the game,>including those who had played for more than 20 hours>I haven't lost access yet, even though I've played less hours than they haveI don't know if it's because I've been playing since the beginning and they joined later, but I still think it's oddalso I read on steam forums that some devs who had spent more than 100 hours also lost access
Who cares, it's not Garrysmod, it's just a roblox clone. I miss Facepunch.
>>737022153Yeah, I'm a dev and I have hundreds of hours on it and I have lost access.I suspect they did not account for hours spent using the editor into the formula, only hours playing other people's games.Either that, or it's fact that I kept my VPN enabled while doing it and that somehow screwed with their analytics.Either way, it seems that you can continue making games as long as you build the editor yourself from their github, so for now that's what I'll be doing.
On one hand I dont care about this game at all, I don't know anything about it.But on the other I think he really fucking should have been LOUD about who was getting their access revoked and who wasn't. It should have been an aggressive and consistent campaign.
that was a great way to cause PR disaster
>>737023687they didn't because tens of thousands of people were botting for free keys to sell on G2A, that's why they kept it ambiguous. most people even if this wasn't a problem weren't keeping their copy anyway because it was a dev preview, not early access, and they were only giving free keys to people who'd either put money into cosmetics to pay for shit or were enough of power users/actual developers who contributed by making games for the platformthe amount of inactive accounts and bots they had was insane, out of 800k only 50k actually didn't get revoked. part of the defense they have from bots fucking with the play fund is having an intro price tag of $20. if they let a shit-zillion free keys get through the game would have an insane botting problem if you're a dev you can just build from source on the github repo and keep working, the engine was always free but the game isn't and never has been
>>737010774this, gmod at a baseline is just a slightly better jbmod that doesn't crash. It was always carried by its gamemodes and addons. All he did was make breaking changes throughout the years and if a mod author wasn't active then that mod would be effectively dead. After he left to make rust or this "sausage men hehe so funny british humor"-game, he left it to other facepunch peons to also continue the tradition of breaking things.This game/engine will be even worse. The content is almost 100% from mod makers and if you think that he will have chilled out now and won't blacklist servers for having a mean SWEP or whatever bullshit criteria he thinks of, you are dead wrong. The whole standalone release thing will be even worse because there will be a clause that lets him just pull your ENTIRE standalone game down off steam if he so chooses.
>Gary (((newman)))
>>737025385>there will be a clause that lets him just pull your ENTIRE standalone game down off steam if he so choosesif that's true then there's indeed no point but how do you know that? is there anywhere I can read more about this?
>>737025385Why would he have one? Valve already can remove games from steam if they choose to, they wouldn't let garry act as another steam moderator.There is a question what will happen if valve removes the standalone game from steam, will you be legally able to keep it on other storefronts or not.
>>737010774FUCK GARRY
>>737026597Lol based Garry???
>>737028408it's more of a former facepunch forum moderators being really retarded.
>>737009139the sausage people are gross.
>>737009139i still have the game lol
>>737028543>Garry creates a forum to discuss his games and general stuff>Delegates moderation to a team, they recruit and manage themselves>Occasionally he pops back in to visit and permaban random people, pissing people off>Decides one day he doesn't need his forum anymore, he's closing it, everyone fucking out>Forum regulars create a replacement forum, are unhappy with everything because Garry doesn't even interact with his forum >Garry comes to the new forum to lole I trole u>Gets permabanned by every single moderator on the forum for all his years of being a cuntLove to see it.
>>737031325Garry was the one that made facepunch? I never went there but I remember during the HL2/Orange Box heydays a lot of source content coming from them.
>>737031482Yep, he created and was the owner of Facepunch. It was a name someone said in one of his multiplayer sessions and he named both his forum and his dev studio after it. He barely used the forum, and eventually decided that Steam forums and Reddit were far superior to Facepunch, which had changed into something he didn't understand and thus didn't want anymore (because he didn't fucking participate!)Funny enough, sometime after he created a new Facepunch, just for discussion of his games and nothing else. Because Steam forums and Reddit are trash for discussing things, it turns out.
and once again steamies decent on the thread much like roaches to defense there fat ugly basterd
I thought it was really funny that got revoked from my account for non-play because every time I'd poke my head into S&box to see what was new or what changed, shit was completely dead and the front page was full of banners that looked like mobile game ads.I don't think there's really much of a future for S&box when he's trying to steal Roblox's beaten wives.
>play sandbox mode on s&box>runs like absolute shit on my 3070>weapons don't make sounds besides the SMG and that weapon is quiet>besides that it's kind of a pain to even grab weapons compared to gmod>the only good thing is the updated construct>this game was made for other gamemodes lul
>>737032276Funny enough S&box's biggest competitor is its existing predecessor which is also better at what it does, hence Garry pivoting to "actually i want roblox money"
>>737031325i don't, these retards banned me for reactions, not even mass reacting to post, just the "ur reaction history kinda sus"
>>737031636>Funny enough, sometime after he created a new Facepunch, just for discussion of his games and nothing elseKnockout wasn't made by him, it was made by the garbage clique of leftist trash that shit up the General Discussion/News/Politics sections of the forum, slowly infiltrated the mod team, and banned tons of people for wrongspeak/think.They made Knockout after Garry killed FP Forums and that attitude and atmosphere of leftist fascism is the foundation of Knockout. Not even the sections on FP that were once relatively safe from their faggotry are free of it now, it permeates every discussion and space on the site. I didn't bother sticking around for long once I learned who ran the site because I could see where it was headed and I was absolutely not wrong. It's hive of troonism and other such retardation.
>>737032518>leftist fascismleast incoherent /v/pol/ poster
>>737032505No yeah, the culture there is serious purity testing, I just thought it was amusing to see Gaz get whacked by literally every moderator.>>737032518Yeah I wasn't talking about Knockout, I meant he actually made a new Facepunch Forums. Because his plan to use Reddit and Steam forums sucked ass.
>>737032602>I meant he actually made a new Facepunch Forumsprobably going to wind up being the same shit as Knockout, but with more screaming 12 year olds
>>737032918If that's the userbase he really wants to culture, then let him be the lord of the script kiddies.
>>737026597The absolute malding in those ban reasons lol. Facepunch forums were always full of the worst types of people. Reddit but even worse.>We've outgrown you - which is why we copy pasted something you made and congregate around it like losers even 10 years later.>aren't you like... older than me? I would never get that old. I bet you have a family that loves you. yikes.He was right to crash that site with no survivors.
>>737034481>Garry>Right>For any reason
>>737034605Blind contrarianism is a hell of a drug, anon. They can't help it.
>>737034481Being accidentally right doesn't mean he was right. He shut down FP for purely selfish egotistical reasons, but he did spare the userbase FP declining even more into a turboleftist shithole like Knockout is, which would have happened given enough time, considering that the very people who shit up FP with leftist politics and purity testing were all the former mods and worse offenders of that behavior were the founders of Knockout.
>>737031325Considering the absolute fucking state of the replacement forum's user base, I'd say Gazza made the right call there. About 70% of that forum are trannies, and the only daily active threads there outside of Plebbit tier political sperging are the Plebbit pictures thread, the tranny thread, and the unemployment thread.
>>737034963It could be, that he was fed up with the leftie mod team on facepunch???????
>>737035170No he was just bored. When Garry gets bored of something he trashes it and doesn't take no for an answer. Remember toybox? Same shit.
>>737035524Or maybe he didn't want the feds to knock on his door again because a tranny sperged out too hard about Trump. Happened a few times in the Facepunch days, and it happened multiple times again on Knockout. (Including one of the European mods earlier on, kek)
>>737035615Maybe if he didn't want that to happen he should've actually participated in the forum he made. It's like how Hiro owns this place but he never visits so the "head mod" instead runs the joint and shit generally sucks because of it.
>>737031325>defending internet modsDon’t get me wrong he deserved it but more so for his faux outrage sperg session about le nazis because he couldn’t handle rp servers messing around.
>>737035915Oh I'm not defending mods. Don't get me wrong.I'm laughing at Garry. We laugh at retards here who get public bans for being total asshats, why should that be any different elsewhere?
but steamies said that good goys valve will never take games away from them?
>>737036050Facepunch is the publisher, not Valve.Garry did this, not Gay Ben.
>>737036148>yeah my games on steam can be stolen but at least it's not GAY BEN who did it
I'm confused, wasn't it just a beta period
>>737036202Correct. Blame should be given to Garry here.If Newell ever takes your games, blame him for that then.
>>737036263you'd get to keep the game if>you bought something>made something>played a lot of itI just went into the store, bought a shitty cosmetic and never touched it. Game's supposed to launch at 20 bucks, so for the 3 bucks that I paid, it's a steal and about the same price I paid all those years back for gmod on a keysite
>>737026597I don't know anything about the drama but holy shit based
>>737035915surprising garry objected to the 1942 servers full of neonazis but not the fnaf servers full of pedophiles
>>737036515bigger clientele olf kids and kiddie diddlers, he can't point fingers when he's making another roblox, those are the people he will attract
>>737036626what kid would buy s&box for 20 bucks when he can just get gmod for 10 (less on g2a) or roblox for free
>>737036202it was a playtestyou got into the playtest with the notion that eventually it would be overwhat, do you expect to keep a game because you played the beta? It's already suprising that they even allowed some players to keep this, my guess is because it would be unfair for those who built content for it and/or already were playing s&Box that dumped time and effort in it.
>>737036675that's the issue
>>737036693>they would NEVER make up a bullshit reason to take away games on steam pinky promise!
>>737026597Why does Reagy sound familiar to me
>>737036859Oh that was one of the tf2r admins
>>737036782>agree to play a game for a limited time to give feedback and to playtest>NOOOO HOW COULD THEY DO THIS?? THIS GAME WAS PROMISED TO ME 3000 YEARS AGO!!If you actually played it, you don't even have to do anything and just keep it
You're missing out on these amazing games!
>>737038018garry could never recreate the charm of playing around with half life assets to make silly shit.
>>737038232If Half-Life 3 released with physics props this game would be a no brainerBUT GUESS WHAT
>>737038514if HL3 ever comes out you'll be able to just plop (most) of those assets in because it's Source 2Hell you can probably use Alyx stuff easily already
>>737009139Garry Niggerman tongues my anus
