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What shmup are you playing?
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Messing around with Dezaemon 2(saturn).
Not exactly playing I guess, just wanted to do what kind of things this tool does. So far I was wondering if you have any control on the hitbox sizes, especially since you can make enemies shit bullets everywhere and create high density patterns very easily.
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>>737009238
stinky cheesy feet simulator
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>>737009238
I don't play video games.
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>>737009690
In terms of the actual trajectory and geometry of bullet patterns you're pretty limited, right? Still a unique idea nonetheless, I'd imagine you could at least make a pretty cool toaplan style dodge and shoot in it with aimed shot spam.
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>>737009814
And yet here you are on the video game board
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>>737009865
I'd love to post a pic about which patterns you have available, but 4chan is barely usable today.
In short: the actual geometry of patterns is limited yes, however you can get very creative with how you move the sources(which can be enemies, boss parts, "enemy-bullets" that actually are internally enemies in the sense of which movement patterns you can assign to them and in turn can shoot more bullets), ultimately creating much more complex products.
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>>737010690
>4chan is barely usable today
Yeah I can't post pictures either without tremendous effort, let alone webms, and I don't think this is gunna be fixed any time soon.
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>>737009238
I can't get past stage 3 of Blue Revolver.
I'm not really cut out for these games.
That said, I tried progear at an arcade, seemed cool.
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>>737010779
Did you actually load up stage 3 in training mode and route it out? A cool thing in a lot of shmups is something can initially feel brutally difficult, but actually turn out to be a cakewalk, so there's a very real feeling of internal progression and learning that's satisfying. Another thing is that blue revolver has a lot of ship types, and a lot of those ships plainly just kinda suck, like Dee with piercing is pretty much the perfect ship in terms of offense and defense if you can clutch out a few tight dodges, or alternatively you could play the ship with the Mars matrix style shield and just not really have to micro at all in exchange for having less resources and having to route tightly, and there's a lot of ships in between these two niches.
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I have Under Defeat on steam and manages to get to the final boss in 3 credits =)

The final stage is extremely annoying; I chewed through 7 or 8 lives there. At least the music is good (og, not the new wub-wub bonus soundtrack).
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>>737011208
No, ive just been trying to improve at stage 1/2 so I get more lives going in, maybe i should do training instead of live runs
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>>737011679
Yes when I did hyper mode I honestly just learned the first 3 stages and flubbed my way through with momentum.
https://youtu.be/eFvY_dEhk-8
Learn the breaks because that score is gunna be really helpful later. You can get like 9 lives in this game.
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>>737011361
When I have to continue I just reset the game honestly
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Blue Revolver DA and Sektori.
great games on their own right ofc, but it's the banger hard electro soundtrack that brings me back to them so often.
I also always liked Dodonpachi DOJ but because the new ost it got recently is so amazing I've been playing it once again despite the terrible emulator lag (where the fuck is the port?)
Trying to 1CC them. DOJ 1CC NEVER EVER, but I feel like there's a chance I can finish BR and Sektori on normal (cleared easy)

also Birdcage didn't hook me because the controls are wierd. Bounced off of NightStriker Gear again because the controls seems buggy af.
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1CCd Batsugun last night and started Dodonpachi. I made it to stage 5 without any practice, just playing runs with every ship, which is surprising
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>>737013507
The 1-all is really not bad, you have an insane amount of resources. Good luck.l and gratz on your batsugun clear.
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>>737010773
These can be combined with movement patterns of the source.
Also thought it might look a bit too restrictive at the beginning, but I quickly understood you can do a lot purely by making the sources move in certain ways. Can't post a single image for the latter because there is a rather complex animation system where you can combine more active movement/spawn movement/disappear movement patterns.
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>>737013331
M2 has been actually GOATed for making ps4/switch somewhat redeemable in terms of games. Almost all the value I've gotten out of my ps4 has been M2 console exclusives, and a ps4 is actually dirt cheap now. Haven't really bothered with my switch because it needs a converter for my stick and a capture card to get anything of value off of it, will probably do that eventually.
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>>737013331
Oh and additionally, pretty sure night striker was designed with a flight stick in mind
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>>737014346
Too bad Snoy has no appreciation for them, when it's exactly the kind of games that build a varied and long lasting library of exclusives. Maybe I'll try and find a PS4 too, you're right.
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trying to learn a loop of viper phase 1. best ive done is up to stage 5.
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Ikaruga again. Being so bad at shmups should be illegal. Gonna try Ray storm on the Saturn tonight or tomorrow
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>>737014595
Japan Sony is very different from US Sony, the second I log onto my nip account I'm bombarded with all kinds of stuff you'd never normally see.
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I just fired up Darius Burst CS for the first time in years. I forgot how much fun I had with it.
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>>737014835
Looks neat, what made you decide to pick this up
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The last shmup I played. I stuffed a flash drive with loads of Eurodance, Nightcore, and other high intensity music to listen to while playing, and it propelled me through 2.5 back-to-back extreme difficulty runs. Thank you, Bamboo Banga by MIA, for helping me overcome my shmup mediocrity.
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>>737015475
mostly the graphics. its seriously one of the best looking arcade games out there along with raiden 2, which i will also try and clear eventually.
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>>737014968
Did you clear ikaruga yet?
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>>737012627
Usually this is the case for me but for games like G.rev's (under defeat or strania) it's usually better to continue until you learn the levels (and you earn more credits as you play anyhow). After you really know the stages inside and out you can try for a 1she she or, better yet, work to qualify for the second loop (no one ever attempts this in Under Defeat, I don't know why).
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Anyone familiar with sengoku ace? Thinking about dicking around with the 2nd loop and seeing if a 2-all is doable.
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>>737017259
The girl in OP is from the sequel yes.
That said, I didn't bother with the original much, but sengoku blade was cool.
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>>737017259
I only made it to 2-3 or 2-4 but I don't remember it being too bad. Since there's no suicide bullets it's much more doable so you just have to deal with faster bullets instead.
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>>737009238
I'm completely new to the genre but I've been looking into it a bit and got interested. Just recently started playing Deathsmiles because it looks nice. Spammed continue to get to the end a couple times because it seemed like it was required to unlock training modes. Going to try 1cc with all Rank 3s. Playing as Follett because control seems most intuitive with her and the short range option makes me think about positioning more, which might be better for learning. So far I can clear Halloween Town with no damage/no bombs/ending with 1000 counter about 3/4 of the time. Thinking I might start on another level soon.
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>>737017419
>you just have to deal with faster bullets instead.
Yeah this is kind of where I was going with it. In dicking around I found the second loop to be fairly similar to the first loop, a lot of sketchy stuff can be eliminated before its a problem or outright circumvented, so I figured I might as well not be lazy about it and see how far I can get.
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>>737017452
Regardless of if you keep up with an all lvl3 route, the most important thing to know is beating the penultimate boss, Jitterbug (the dude) without bombs gives you a bonus 2Up right before the final boss, which gives you more than enough resources to bombspam it to oblivion. Good luck!
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>>737018257
Thanks for the tip. I'm thinking as I continue to practice stages on level 3 I may occasionally attempt minimum rank clears for fun. If I understand correctly, it's possible to select level 1 for at most four stages and level 2 for two stages.
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>>737009238
What are some really good ecchi shmups?
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>>737019020
I was going to say Burunyanman but that's a full-fledged porn game excluding the PSP version.
There's not that many I can think of, which is kinda odd since it's one of the few genres you can play with one hand.
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How was it that in the 90s we had already perfected the perfect ass form, but since then they've just continued balooning up into increasingly grotesque proportions?
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>>737019020
how does that even work
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>>737019325
What are you talking about lol
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>>737019325
big butts exist, get over it.
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>>737009238
I've practiced some Ketsui a few days ago. The stage 3 midboss is so fun to mess around with

>>737019020
Sexy Parodius
Galshell 1 & 2
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>>737009238
none
too depressed
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Chaining and bees are such dogshit and ruin DDP games
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>>737019020
cho aniki
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>>737019786 (me)
Here's a clip
https://streamable.com/23nl3j
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>>737020280
this is why ketsui is superior... u get to choose where to combo B^)

what did you think of guwangy?
i like the scoring a lot but yea i cant chain for shit
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>>737019423
I'm talking about the lust provoking image in OP compared to modern coomer trends.
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Just tried ketsui and got raped to death on stage 1 wtf
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>>737020845
Ketsui is like the most satisfying game ever to learn. Beating that game feels incredible.
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>>737020682
Thank god zoomers don't know what psikyo is really like
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>>737020462
Just as a heads up those choppers are super consistent if you learn where they come in, get underneath them, lock on, then juke to the side. It's so much less messy.
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>>737009238
Been a bit since I put hands on them but Mahou Daisakusen and Galaga Legions.

>>737019325
OP ass is good ass but bigger ass is good ass too.
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>>737020626
Guwange is great, fun to play, bullet reflecting/cancelling is just fun, simple as
But yeah fuck the chaining in that game too lmao
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>>737019126
fully-fledged porn is fine too
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>>737021384
I will try that out. Still, won't you mind doing a video demostration for that?
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>>737021102
Oy gevalt...
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RayStorm and Radirgy.
The latter more for nostalgia, since I owned and enjoyed the Milestone Shooting Collection on the Wii. I even find myself doing some scoring maneuvers via muscle memory, though I've long forgotten how it actually works.
RayStorm is as fierce as people say it is, though I've never been good at SHMUPs so some of that may just be my lack of skill. Even so, it's still a lot of fun and has tons of flair. The Neu Tanz Mix adds even more sauce to the game, it's great. I'm excited to beat it one day!
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>>737022256
Ray'z series are all so good, great presentation and the target painting mechanic gives them so much room for creative design.
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>>737019786
>The stage 3 midboss is so fun to mess around with
Hate that guy, never been able to consistently perfect it, feels like such a run ender
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>>737019786
Getting a life out of the big ship makes me cum
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>>737021865
I did it in this run, more or less
https://youtu.be/xbpj6oCYapQ
I can't upload webms right now, even pictures takes like 15 minutes to post for me. It's nothing really special, you just pull down and hook to the next position. Theyre staircased in a way that will put you in a good position if you do it that way. The choppers really don't have that much health, despite their size suggesting otherwise. It's crazy how good just pulling down in ketsui is, it's so aggressive you've got like half a screen to fix shit sometimes.
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>>737009814
same i just masturbate to anime girls all day
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Man 4chan is not letting me post
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OMG! A shmup thread and no tranimai avatarfag on sight!!?? I must be dreaming.
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I listened to one of you (probably the developer, given how low profile the game seems to be ) and am playing pic related (nevermind, I can't post from clipboard anymore because apparently whatever shitfuck happened today with the connections broke 4chan-x / -xt .). Game its
>Rotschwert

Some anon said it was like ZeroRanger and.. I can kinda see it...maybe. I've beaten it on the first two difficulties (I think, the endings are slightly different each difficulty) but things really scale up harder on the 3rd one and memorization is necessary over reaction by this point it seems. Even if I farm lives in 2nd Level, 4th seems to go insane and there must be a particular way you're supposed to handle certain encounters or else you'r just fucked. I listened to one of you (probably the developer, given how low profile the game seems to be ) and am playing pic related

Some anon said it was like ZeroRanger and.. I can kinda see it...maybe. I've beaten it on the first two difficulties (I think, the endings are slightly different each difficulty) but things really scale up harder on the 3rd one and memorization is necessary over reaction by this point it seems. Even if I farm lives in 2nd Level, 4th seems to go insane and there must be a particular way you're supposed to handle certain encounters or else you'r just fucked.
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>>737009238
Ass
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>>737019020
You lose clothing with every hit in Caladrius, so there's that.
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Been playing the Cotton games, trying out the arcade versions and all the ports.
A shame that the 2nd games run so bad on mame. They have a really nice thing going on with that catch-throw mechanic, it's really fun.
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>>737022496
Kot
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How do I play Batrider I keep dying to shit I don't see
The whole vibe of the game is great though
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>>737023115
>memorization is necessary over reaction
There is no good game you can simply react to
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lolismiles
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>>737023740
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post Hina
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Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8RZAIvxzXM
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>>737019020
Caladrius
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>>737009238
Curious, I went to see what her age is.
>12
Japan is a fuckin place alright.
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>>737023930
Do people like rosa?
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>>737024451
Do they?

I only hear of casper or windia personally
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>>737024001
only when 4chan stops shitting itself
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I can't beat the 3rd stage of R type delta
I can't beat the hard path star wolf fight in starfox 64
I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LIVES FOR THIS SHIT
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What the fuck happened to endless shirafu?
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>>737023465
Cotton 2 is a blast! The throwing and chaining aspect makes it one of my all time favorite shmups! I wish I wasn't shit at it though.
I've never played the arcade version, I go for the Saturn version.
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>>737009238
I've been trying to get the 1CC in Parallel on Blue Revolver, and i started playing Natsuki Chronicles so I've been going through story mode and treating it as practice
Shmups are so good, i slept on these games for a long time
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>>737015587
Fuck, AI is getting really good now
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>>737025463
Not AI, just Genzoman (which is only marginally better).
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>>737009238
DFK 1.5
1-all omote strong was kinda easy and I even routed both laser wheel parts in about an hour and a half.
I'm working on the 2-all omote now. My goal is reaching Hibachi because I love the music. Zatsuza is even better but there is no chance in hell I'll ever get there.
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>>737025330
>Shmups are so good
Natsuki is trash though.
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>>737025093
>What the fuck happened to endless shirafu?
What do you mean? The mouse shmup?
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Garegga at HEY
https://www.youtube.com/live/7il8YUXQmbA
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>>737025901
how?
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trying to 1cc Esp Ra de
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>>737025949
Yeah, it's literally AI slop: The game
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>>737025959
It's super grindy. It's super annoying to restart because you have to go through 20 menus each time.
Weapons are too weak and you need to beat a level to buy weapons that can beat it.
Unskippable story segments during gameplay where literally nothing happens.
The fucking tutorial level being the hardest part of the game because you don't get shields. The only game worse than Natsuki is Ginga Force.
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>>737026048
none of this matter in arcade mode.
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>>737026023
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>>737026078
What's there to explain? just look at it
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>>737026073
It also has terrible bullet visibility and the empty story segments are still there since they're part of the levels.
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>>737026132
It looks like Akashicverse? Maybe your opinion is AI slop?
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>>737026132
Looks like literally every other one of their games man, I dunno what to tell you devs aren't allowed to have styles anymore?
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>>737025959
game is ugly as fuck
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>>737026234
How is astralbringer looks like every other one of their games? its artsyle outside the sprites aren't even the same
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>>737026483
I know you're autistic but there this thing. It's called updating art styles. Every (real) artist does it. Get used to it or forever seethe
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>>737026551
I wouldn't call replacing your artist with sloppa as "updating your artstyle" but ok
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>>737026737
You literally have no proof other that vibes or whatever you zoomers describe as feelings rather than fact. If it was AI it would be blatantly obvious.
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>>737026792
*then
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>>737024001
ENTER
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any good non-animu shmups?
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>>737026906
Raiden 2
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>>737026906
Look back 20 years and play old games only.
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>>737026906
Tyrian
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>>737025825
I know, i was doing a little joke. The box art looks a lot like it could have been made by AI doe
>>737025901
It's not an all-time classic or anything but it's decent imo and i paid 75p for it so I'm hardly complaining. The one mission in story mode that tricks you with the objective sucks dick though
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>>737027025
>i paid 75p for it
You're paying with your time that you could spend on playing better shmups.
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>>737026906
Gun Frontier
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Does Metal Slug count as a shmup?
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>>737026792
Nigger, they're literally using midjourney and stablediffusion. you can see the loading screen art and character art in their twitter and pixiv.
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>>737027091
Nah, I'm enjoying it well enough, I don't think it's as bad as you're suggesting.
I did get it in a bundle with Ginga Force though and I think that one actually might be a POS judging from a quick play.
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>>737027143
No.
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>>737027143
Yes
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>>737027197
>Literally only one post from 2022
>This means they're AI now
You're retarded.
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>>737027405
Nah fuck you pablo
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>>737027328
You would be right about that. You have to play story mode to unlock arcade mode stages.
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>>737026792
>>737027197
This conversation is based because if we're here now where luddos are schizo arguing about whether x or y game has AI assets, in a year or two when you literally can't tell the difference every social media addicted freak is going full blown psychiatric
>>737027501
That's real dumb but it explains why they call it 'score attack mode' instead of 'arcade mode', kind of a statement of intent
Well, I'll consume the slop anyway, I'm a literal retard
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>>737027454
>Literally only one post from 2022
Ok you're fucking with me or just really fucking dumb
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>>737027732
I accept your concession. Nigger.
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Speaking of endless shirafu, is akashicforce a shmup?
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Okay threads over I guess, captcha is fixed and now retards are back
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What's the best way to play Raptor Call of the Shadows?
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>>737024194
out of ten
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>>737027976
Original in DOS Box. It's what you get if you buy from Steam and gog.
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ded game
ded genre
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>>737009238
Jets n Guns
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>>737025975
How's it going? The final boss always rapes me even after an almost perfect run
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>>737024645
For me it's lei
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>>737028152
gog version is fine
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Raycrisis my beloved
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>>737028663
Post your 1cc of it
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>>737028475
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>>737009238
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>>737028779
cute
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>>737028756
no
its been years, and i suck ass now
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>>737028663
>>737028756
Bad ending 1cc isn't all that daunting desu, it's the true final boss that's a real bitch.
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>>737029375
>i just really like raycrisis
>post it on the SHMUP thread
>anons get PTSD
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So what happened to Guxt 2?
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>>737029674
Pixel is a slow worker sometimes, I guess it might still be in development? I really don't know myself, I hope it is.
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>>737029674
>2
Where's the first game?
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>>737030268
The cave story site
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>>737029518
raycrisis is effortlessly cool though it can be insanely bullshit at times. I've 1cc'd it many times though I think Storm is the best of the three Ray games.
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>>737009238
Made for BWC
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>>737009814
Oh, so a touhou fan then
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I love this guy
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>>737009238
>>737009238
ZPF
Earthion
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>>737032316
So much more comfortable to use in DOJ but I still can't get a clear with it, feels harder to use in general
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>>737022885
What do you mean she's right here >>737022496
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We're never getting the black onion
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I’ve been trying to beat ketsui at my nearby arcade, but I can’t even make it to stage 6. I’m so used to playing on a keyboard that the stick controls feel completely arcane to me.
I literally crippled myself unknowingly by starting with 2hu
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>>737033748
You have a nearby arcade with fucking ketsui what the fuck?
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>>737033748
I live in rural japan. The local arcade has most of the cave shmups including niche titles like guwange and progear. It's kind of nice seeing other people's score, but honestly I’d rather play on my PC because the screen is so gigantic, you can’t just glance at it and you have to focus on specific parts of the screen which gets really tiring
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>>737009238
Tsukasa Jun and Range Murata are heroes
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>>737034546
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Hi, have a question
Is there any way to have MAME do automatic replays by default, like for instance each time you load a save state?
Is there also a proper rom pack for shmupmame since it got a new version recently?
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Maybe this genre is just really gay to play
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>>737035578
Memoslop is gay yes, you gotta play non-memoslop games
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>>737028852
They knew what they were doing with this character
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>>737024001
Wonder if the anon who used to draw her is still around.
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>>737035627
What's wrong with memorization?



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