Maplestory Classic closed playtest started yesterday and it was fucking packed. A lot of people complaining that they didn't get in too so the hype is there.What are your thoughts and impressions so far?
>>737010921are sindits viable or is mage the only class worth making
>>737010921im too neurotypical to care
>>737011438Sindit is almost required for bandit unless you are prepared to spend a lot of time farming/grinding safely with basic attack.
>>737010921I didnt get in
if you didn't get your key yet you're not getting in, they sent them all out yesterday, you'll have gotten a confirmation and will get your key on the 16th.Just for anyone who was holding out hope.You CAN use keys outside of the account you signed up for, so get to buying if you want the limited cosmetics that you'll never be able to get otherwise!
>>737010921>What are your thoughts and impressions so far?Only streamers got in so no one knows
>>737010921This was always gonna be a beta test for people who attended the IRL events, the codes people could sign up for are just a few pity codes for people who didn't get to go to an event.
Full release in May!!!!!!
>>737011778not a fucking chance. Fall is most likely, after anniversary, before winter patch on GMS. Two months is bare minimum for them to collect and implement data from the test.
>>737011438Double Stab was buffed, so no reason to go sindit anymore. I can 1 shot horny mushrooms while sins are doing 53/55 with L7.
>>737010921I'm not getting in, but from what I've seen from streams they need to do some changes and fixes.>>737011778I wish, but likely looking at summer. Worst case they keep pushing it beyond which would honestly suck.
>>737010921I actually met an Asian girl playing MapleStory back in the day but she was really fucking ugly
So, these "leaf points" I'm seeing, are they just analogous to NX, or are they doing an NX/maple point split so people can buy mesos "legitimately"?
>>737011852there's probably going to be another beta, this guy had to reset all his stats to dex to hit 2nd job adv mobs on a sinthe game is extremely unpolished and probably full of exploits atm
What are you guys thinking of the meso/potion management? A lot of people getting softlocked by no potions or meso.
Chairs aren't in the game yet since it's this early, right? That was pretty much the fix for it back in the day. Skill issue till then. Make a warrior, don't need to expend mesos just to play the character and can save up some resources.
>>737012604wont be a thing past week 1
>>737012604Small adjustments could be made, but I don't think it's the end of the world. This is mainly just going to be an issue for the start of the game before things balance out. Main issue is probably people don't realise they can't just burn through HP/MP pots non-stop and actually have to think about the playstyle of old maple a little bit more.>>737012672Chairs are in the game, atleast the first one from the tutorial island. You have to deal with a ton of people camping the boxes though so debate if you want to stay or not. You can supposedly craft chairs iirc.
GigaTaco is almost at 2nd job lads.
Crafting is really unexplored I think thats suppose to be the main way to get gear since ore drops seem to be buffed. Maybe it might help with the accuracy woes.
>took nexon NA longer than it took wizet to make maplestory just to make classic>balance is complete ass, somehow worse than OG and mages are even stronger than they used to be>accuracy is completely fucked which further makes mages even better>quests and PQs nerfed to shit, literally not worth doing at all anymore>sell prices of certain items nerfed hard, potion economy is miserable>forced to grind in full parties otherwise your rates go to shit>new content doesn't match with the old content whatsoever>dutch players fucked over and can't trade
First 5 hours were or so were fun and nostalgic. Now everyone knows it's magestory again so my interest in playing is very little. Nexon not opening up more slots and just sending out more invites is a buzzkill, shooting themselves in the foot here not capitalizing on hype. By the time the beta is over I doubt anyone will be talking about classic anymore.
>>737013307>dutch playersoh no, all 2 of them
so it's basically 1:1 to old classic, we got baited
>>737013763>so it's basically 1:1 to old classicisnt that what people want? #nochanges
>>737013763No, it's got massive changes to balance, but none of those changes adjust that the core problem with classic is that mages are better than everything else due to fundamental game design issues.So, mages are basically minimally impacted by other things being slightly harder and more grindy, while everyone else feels it significantly moreso.
>>737013763It's similar but there are important differences. Faster base movement, buffed potions.
>>737011438bandits have always been viable but are probably the most involved class at high levels, dropping meso's doesn't have any support for it but is the most effective damage for several bosses in old maple
I wouldnt invest so much in meta right now. A lot of the balancing is probably going to change as a result of the beta.
>>737013763Sounds good to me, hopefully my class of choice will be very rare. Crossbowchad maxxing here I come
People are calling Maplestory Classic "Lemonstory"
>>737014231they said that with maplecon, you know, in october.There were pretty much 0 changes from october to feb, and from feb to now they had some but still not that many. They're clearly not listening to the feedback.
>>737013932Mages standouts:>Energy Bolt is better than Magic Claw in DPS/Damage efficiency>Doesn't suffer nearly as hard under the tight resource economy>Doesn't need to worry about accuracy woes as hard as the othersSolutions:>Just remove Energy Bolt period, we've had different incarnations of mages with EB, this skill just doesn't fucking work. EB is suppose to be an early game shitter skill that you replace Magic Claw with but it's taking up a valuable skill point to do so. But now magic claw is completely useless if its as strong as it is now.>Tight Resources are a game factor, maybe make potions just a small bit easier to get. I understand the aversion to have mesos be so easily obtainable to avoid inflation but right now potions are just a little too unsustainable.>Make mages suffer accuracy penalties as the rest, the only class which accuracy SHOULDN'T be an issue are (x)bowmans because they're naturally speced into dex.
do you guys think there will be another test, or will it be released after this
>>737012308>109 dex at level 30OMEGAKEK. Hilarious accuracy formula.
>>737014420The balance changes are fucking retarded.Magic claw does less damage and costs more mana than energy bolt, just to be able to hit through terrain which is completely fucking irrelevant
>>737014530Spotted the casual shitter
>>737014530I think the idea was to make energy bolt more important but the skill has never ever had a good history. The skill needs to just be replaced by magic claw wholesale.
what are the chances of me getting a gf when this releases?Hard Mode:>no SEAmonkies>no trannies
>>737014429Really wanting to play I'd want a release as soon as possible. From the current state and feedback it seems they need to adjust and change things and how long that takes is unknown. Could be that they push open test and then release or go with the open test to launch method.
I'm just gonna play MapleRoyals this weekend :L
>>7370146560%, women don't play MMOs anymore, they play valorant and league and tft and shit.Also there won't be nearly enough cute items, they're clearly going the minimalism route with this.
>>737013316Mages have always been wonky. They start off weak before they can job advance to magician, then they ramp up and are better than everyone else. Then they get carried by their 1st job attack skill while their 2nd job skills are dog shit until they get them with more than half of their SP invested into the skills, then they become good at grinding again. Then repeat that for 3rd job with their skills being ass until they essentially max a skill. Again for 4th job until they have heavy investment into a 4th job skill. Other classes skills often build upon one another. Like slash blast and power strike gets Mastery, then booster, then possibly final Attack. Then you get something like combo Attack that is another skill stacked upon other skills. On the other hand not everyone cares to be a mage.
>>737014752what is about shooter and mobaslop that appeals to ewhores?
>>737014656For you, Patel, unlikely.
>>737014880They're able to be supportive whores and don't need to actually be decent at the game and can rely on getting carried.MMOs still require you to do things.
>>737014752I met women in fucking Maplestory Worlds. Women love cute, social, grind games they can exploit men in.
>>737014420take it to discord dumbass
>>737014978I'm betting you met men saying they were women.Women do not like grind.
>>737014745I tried out chronostory but that shit plays like ass I don't get how people can pretend that feels fine to play at all.
>>737015007The discord is containment so that feedback and complaints go fucking nowhere since I doubt they actually listen to feedback forwarded by CMs. Nexon isn't the only company that does this shit.
>>737015023There are literally women streaming the beta right now.
>>737015059chronostory is fucking roblox maplestory with turbofucked physics and mechanics, same as artale, mapleland, and nextale, all gross and terrible and awful.legends and royals are literally just the old source with some fixes applied.
if players are having accuracy problems why not go to monsters they can actually hit
>>737015186At least with mapleland they are fixing that shit with 2.0 just being their own engine that uses worlds as a frontend. But yeah artale and chronostory are the best we have globally until classic world comes out but they still just feel off to play.
>>737014752>>737015023I can tell you've never played classic Maple before, it was full of girls and there are going to be tons of nerdy women wanting to get into Classic for the nostalgia.
>>737015359>the best we have????????no they're not, royals and legends are. They're still terrible because prebb is terrible, but they're the best. worlds is fucking terrible roblox slop, it doesn't matter which game on it, it's bad, it's terrible, it's awful.
Chance of /v/ guild went from 10/100 to 0/100. I don't think we have enough for more than one trailblazer party, which means having to play with normies most of the time and defeats the purpose of a /v/ guild. The current Classic gameplay loop is fundamentally flawed as no new players will be able to have access to a constant supply of 6 man parties at all level ranges. People will burn out before lvl 100 and won't have more than a small selection of people to party daily with. I'm glad we all went through this dance on private servers before and know better now.
>>737015571There have been multiple MS threads that have hit bump limit in the past few days and that's not even counting the larger number of anons that just lurk without posting.I'd be surprised if there aren't enough anons to fill out an entire guild
>>737015748That would be at first but it's likely not going to persist.Plus you need Orbis for a guild and Orbis isn't likely going to be in at launch.
the ms /v/ guilds were always filled with shizo's and normalfags who barely made high level characters. The fact you guys proudly name yourselves shit and piss like its funny is just really telling
>>737015571we will fill multiple guilds man, the game isn't even out yet, there will be more of us once it's advertised more
>>737010921>streamerfaggotry closed betasif there's one thing i didn't miss about the 2010s
>>737015338Even archers are missing
>>737015847>there will be more of us once it's advertised moreThe jannies is going to cry about it and ban anons and "redirect to /vg/ or /vm/" about it...
I was kind of interested but I play the maple idle game now and realized that's good enough for me
>>737016291literally howit's THE definition of a slop game, at least nu-maple is an actual game and people here hate it for the sole purpose of hating itunless you're the stereotypical japanese salaryman with 0 free time and living in a wagie crib I can't comprehend why someone would "play" those
>>737016067>Archers are missing as wellThat's a bad sign of the accuracy calcs then because archers have no business missing since that's meant to be their biggest strength over the others.
>>737013307>dutch players fucked overWtf I love MS classic now
technically this is the second closed beta, because they had the in person event too where they recorded that videopretty lame, being left out twiceit should have been a few days early access for event goers and streamers and then open beta over weekendvery gay behavior t b q h f a m
Lukless assassin is the new meta
>>737016476Well accuracy only accounted for so much. There was still damage reduction due to level difference which mattered at level 80+ areas coupled with their high defense already. So I wonder if they have that damage degradation from being a much lower level than a monster you're fighting or if it's the same or if it's a different formula.
As much as I want Classic to release, they definitely need an open beta.Things are complete ASS to play right now, and it's a shame because the issue is at a fundamental level.>Potions are impossible to get forcing players to stop and regen regularly, disengaging them from the game>Accuracy formula changed making grinding not only require tons of potions, but significantly more time >Quests are nerfed for some reason, facilitating the potion crisis>KPQ, the most notable social aspect of old Maplestory, has been nerfed for no reason
>>737016476yeah, I remember being a hunter in OPQ at level 51 and still being able to hit Papa Pixie
>>737016656The think buffing the shit out of party grinding is somehow more social except it really isn't because you literally just go >j partyand then get invited and that's literally the full extend of the social interaction.
/ourguy/ wrote down his complaints>mage is too strong 1st job>quest/pq exp is BAD>solo grinding is way worse for exp
>>737016837>solo grinding is way worse for expIt's actually not.Watch GigaTaco's stream. Solo grinding stirges is better than partying anywhere, AND you make way more money.He got mad as fuck after being duped into leaving the stirge map for partying.
>>737016837I thought everyone wanted MMOs to be about social interaction? You have to party up to grind now. You got exactly what you've been asking for for 20 years.
I think the main problem with party exp being so high is that it makes unpopular maps even worse and popular maps even betterWhat if I wanna train in a niche map like monkey forest?
>>737016837>>737016895Solo grinding is definitely better, but soloing good maps still outshines partying bad ones
>>737016895>picks sin despite everyone saying mage is better>solo grinds despite everyone saying party is better>ends up actually being better anywaygiga chad meta definers > sheep metaslaves
>>737016952>Solo grinding is definitely better, but soloing good maps still outshines partying bad ones
>>737016620but there was never damage reduction in old mapre, that was a post big bang thing
>>737016917God damn people find any reason to bitch. If you need a break and want to go somewhere else then go there. You don't need to giga autism sweat lord max all the damn time. Take a break from the game, chill and chat, do quests, go somewhere else to farm. Thinking you need to be the ideal class training in the ideal spots with the ideal party is an autism problem making you too ridged to do anything else because you see it as a waste of time. A waste of time in a Korean grinding MMORPG. Entire game is a time sink.
>>737017046>go out of the way to do quests>get 3 mobs worth of xp and half a mob worth of mesos as rewardwow...
>>737016291Im level 97 on that game, I will be playing both. Been logging in every day to Idle. It scratches an itch. I pay like 2 dollars a month and some change for offline rewards. That away I stay with the pack and have quick ques for most things. I plan on going free once I hit 100 for 4th job
i just spoke with blackgoku and he said classic is slop
>>737016903>I thought everyone wanted MMOs to be about social interaction?what do you think pqs are for dumbass?party training is ass because it makes it harder to begin playing and quitting whenever you want
>>737016903how is that social? nobody fucking talks to each other you just kill shit solo but together.
I'm gonna play a Paladin or a Hero I don't care if they end up being dogshit
>>737010921>What are your thoughts and impressions so far?you'll never be young again
>>737017332>if
>>737014752BDO has a decent number of biological women playing it, as in if you join a guild there's probably women in it, and maplestory is a way cuter game so I wouldn't be surprised if it had even more>b-b-b-ut trannies!There are more women than trannies on BDO
>>737017313It's a playtest, sperg.
Hows day 2 of the beta looking so far?
Do you guys think they should add some post-Big Bang content for endgame when the time is right? Or should they keep the vanilla Zakum/Horntail endgame loop?
>>737017595They are 150% going to go through the existing content and probably stagger in new content every x updates. My guess would be they do major updates on a seasonal cadence (maybe alternating with main line MS? so like major summer is GMS, then fall is classic, winter GMS, spring classic) and every 2 updates they add a new region, since they already said they were doing a new storyline, and that storyline is going to cross over with modern maple's ride or die mapae stuff.
>>737017595people wont keep playing if zakum and horntail is all there iseven just taking something like guardian angel slime and removing all the gimmicks would fit and be a big addition.
>>737017638>>737017595Hit post too early, shit.I don't think they'll go all the way to big bang. I think if classic lives that long (which is still up in the air at this point) they'll probably diverge overall at that point. If it's successful enough to afford a full on development team, I think a yearly update is not out of the question.
>>737017595post-BB content was already following BB philosophy of small maps and shit like that so they would need to change a lot of things, just make new content
>>737017595Idk but I hope they never introduce any of the future henesys or cygnus garden stuff, shit tier giga flat map galore, even cygnus's map is a flat piece of shit. As the other anon said they should just make brand new content. I wouldn't mind seeing high level deep ant tunnel stuff
Thoughts on Classic so far?
>>737018074Watching streams, it looks fucked
>>737016656Buffing party xp so much but nerfing PQs is not a good direction to take imo. The former is fake socializing, the latter is at least a little more tangible.
>>737017595Seasons or leagues that keep the grind alive with a twist and new skills here and there. Path of Maple
>>737018074i bummed an account from a friend who went to maplecon. Made a cleric,felt pretty fine. Made a warrior, and it became nearly impossible to kill shit. Thought maybe a bowman might be a bit better, and it's only marginal. I really don't like the new accuracy calculations. I think the potion cost increase and meso adjustments are good. I like things being a bit more scarce.I don't like how they're probably going to sell potions in the cash shop cause I'm jaded and just don't trust them.I don't like that KPQ is basically worthless now. They need to multiply the amount of item rewards by like 4x. party play is something I like, and it makes taking over a map feel important and fun, but if you don't socialize I can see why you'd think it's bad.
complaining about needing to party up in an MMO is why MMOs are not popular anymore
>>737012308>No "Hands" stat.Fake classic Maple.
>>737018216there's a new crafting system, retard, cause no one used the old one besides to make work gloves and literally nothing else.
For those saying KPQ isn't good, what about grindKPQ where you just stay on the first stage and grind with the party EXP? Does that make it any better despite the lack of rewards, or would it just be for the folks with potions and money to burn
>>737018246So you never played OG Maplestory? "Hands" was an unknown stat no one knew what it did for literal years and the only real description we had was from KMS which was vague at best. It only disappeared after the Big Bang update.
>>737018074They overshot on trying to make accuracy relevant. It’s clear now that this game is nowhere near ready for release.
>>737018319>unknownit affected crafting success and this has been known forever.
>>737018323>recreating maple takes longer than it took to fucking make maple from scratch these devs are fucking retarded
Damn shame warriors are dog. Still gonna play one.
>>737018323Wonder how much ChinaMS' classic system will shit on GMS' retarded version.
>>737018413Pretty sure that only got revealed towards the tail end of pre-BB because we didn't have any use for it until at least 2009 or so. Still, if you're gonna be Classic MS the "Hands" stat should still be there regardless if you're using the new crafting.
FIRST LOOK AT FIRE/POISON:https://www.twitch.tv/ereklo_game/clip/AffluentCovertLardBibleThump-5q7WTdOxDps_VRxG
>kpq exp is reduced by a shit load>and reduced even further if you do more than 1 a dayjesus christ
>>737018323Accuracy should be relevant, but not to the point that an Assassin is building their character like an Archer. Could be the way lucky 7 is balanced since you simply can't dump points into luck.
>>737018709Accuracy should only be relevant on bosses. There is no reason to have it apply to literal mobs like snails or slimes.
>>737018753Accuracy was always relevant. It allowed Archers to train at level 90 places in their early 80s and was something warriors had to think about gearing up for their training spots.
>>737013307why was pq nerfed?
>>737018709The main issue is that they CASTRATED the conversion of dex/luck into accuracy. If they softened that a little then there wouldn't be a problem.
>>737018526Poison Breath seems pretty damn good. That's at level 1 as well. It's range seems pretty crazy.
I just realized this game can't work in 2025, there are too many troons and freaks online
>>737018680>>and reduced even further if you do more than 1 a daywait what? am i missing something here?
>>737018796Just make accuracy tied to level and give bosses bonus avoidability that requires investing into accuracy gear or partying with people that boost accuracy
>>737018968Kobe ran KPQ and got 700~ xp at the end of the first run, but only around 200 xp when he cleared a second time
>>737018996>Just make accuracy tied to levelthat's exactly what they did for Big Bang so no
>>737019013Thats so fucking shit wth, so nexon really is trying to force people to party grind instead
>>737018526WHATTHEFUCKEveryone was talking about Fire Arrow but forgot about Poison Bubble
>>737010921I got reminded real quick that this game sucked and only the community made it great. The magic is gone. Idk why i fell for it
>>737018963Pretty much, you can never truly go back.
You niggers are really going to complain about every little thing until we eventually have Big Bang 2: Electric Boogaloo, aren't you?
>>737010921I got reminded real quick that this game sucked and only the community made it great. The magic is gone but mages still dominate, funnily enough. Idk why i fell for it
Surely you won't play a shitter class, right?
I just don't wanna miss as a fucking bowman
>>737019224Cleric is not the best class in the game
>>737018963>2025someone tell bro......
>>737019042>>737019186They already made it so you get a 95% damage penalty if an enemy is 10 levels or greater than your own. Just add the other half of the formula.
Watcher bros how is archer?Worth taking in the beta or is it like classic maple where mage or bust.
>>737019335magestory
U ISRAEL?>>737014928
>>737019370Idiot.
>>737018526Listening to these wiggers speak is like brain bleed. I can't believe this isn't a bit.
>>737019335It seems okay for 1st job. Nothing too special. It all depends how good the 2nd job mobbing skills are.
>>737018526YOOOOOO BRO ITS ACTUALLY FIRE DOE NGL YOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO CAAAAAAAP
Are maple streamers the only streamers that got the beta inv and playing?This thing's gonna flop
>>737010921Are they sending the codes out in batches? My email said I'm not getting one until tomorrow.
>>737018526Despite their fucking screaming, F/P is fucking back bros.
>>737019681Two, I think.1000 people total and everyone who didn't get in yesterday is getting in tomorrow.Congestion worries since only 2 channels I think.
they have a nice foundation but there are still a lot of things to balance
>>737020132yup hopefully things get fixed for release
What do we think of the upcoming maple anniversary?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5FjUkyOOaQ
>>737018526Are these the faces of maplestory in 2026? Wiggers?
>>737020802The only thing noteworthy about it is that we may get a release date for Classic. Nobody anywhere cares about the anniversary otherwise.
>>737020802Looking over the notes for this and maybe I'm missing something, but it looks EXTREMELY forgettable. The last anniversary event was nice because it offered a lot of NX items and even produced conclusions to popular classic maplestory quests.This one seems kinda.. bland?
>>737020860There's a fun jump quest in there thohttps://www.twitch.tv/isiinggunz/clip/CharmingRenownedKeyboardJonCarnage-7CU_g_XrrV3fyRLT
>>737021202>>737021043Isn't that just the same jump quest that was in Saitama's collab?https://youtu.be/dbsBpCkN0Qk?t=902
>>737021202>we gon finish>close tabwho the fuck talks like that?
>>737021202not playing a dogshit game for one jump quest. there'll be JQs in classic, i think i'll live.
>>737020802Did Sin and Bow vertical attack tracking get fixed yet? And why are bows prevented from jump shooting?
>>737021202Yeah my monitor would have a hole in it if that happened to me.
>>737021202>it just keeps goingHeh.
>>737021357Seems that vertical range is fine if the enemy is above you, but very poor if they're even a little bit below you.
>>737021271Yeah but KMS got the anniversary event with the tower first, then the OPM event came out after that and included the tower as a joke. The point is that Saitama can just completely cheese the entire thing while the real version disables skills and locks you to slow movement so you have to actually go through the entire thing properly this time.
>>737020802Looks generic outside 10% meso drop rate and more sol erda
>>737021202how it feels to support Nexon games in current year
Classic World releasing on May 11thSource: I made it up
https://www.spritefan2.com/Bannedstory is back
>>737019224I really hope they undo some of the nerfs they made to the other classes. Mages were already one of the best 1st level jobs due to not needing to worry about accuracy. Them cutting Slash Blast from hitting 6 enemies down to 4 feels criminal. Also why is Spearman higher than Fighter and Page? Everything I've seen so far suggests Spearmen were hit the hardest of the three Warrior jobs.
>>737022380Hyperbody is overvalued still and things like 3 seconds of stun at a 25% proc rate are hard to visualize
>>737022258Just in time since twow is getting taken down.
Trust me, maple story is complete shit. Not worth your time, final fantasy online is way better graphics if your pc can handle it. I am a pro final fantasy online player and have achieved great feats of power.
>>737022439Things like stun and freezing is pointless until level 80+ mobs.
>>737022380that site is vibecoded with AI generated analysis of classes using data from pre-classic world. it's fine for viewing datamined stuff, but any ranking should be ignored. that same site had shields equippable by spearmen.
So what needs to change for Classic based on what you've seen?
>>737022380Spearman gets free partial stance and a small heal on their final attack, I guess. Rage in its current form is lukewarm, and lmao Threaten.
Anybody got their code?
>>737018526>level 30>1600 mesos>7 blue potsbrutal
>apparently Mages are really OP in the betaThe anti-Magic Guard schizo is gonna FREAK
>>737014194nothing of this will apply to the game though
Kek, holy shit, even archers for their 2nd job advancement has like a 40% chance to hit. Crazy work going on in here.
>>737022513It's not about the mobs it's about the bossing
>>737023323I was watching the dude who's making a crossbowman and that's pretty accurate, he can't fucking hit the 2nd job evil eyes and zombie mushroom, this is NOT ok
>>737023401What bossing that shit basically doesn't exist
lil bros talking about high level content when theyll quit a month in.
>>737023447We literally don't know what's being released anonEven if it's only for LPQ it's still significant and prior to that there's no point in caring about what your class can or can't do.
>>737014194i really hope that they soft rework CB (and eventually shadower if we get 4th job) for classic, it was one of the most "throw shit at the wall" classes in OSMS and it felt like the devs had no idea what they were doing with the class. meso dropping was always a shit mechanicif there is one thing I wouldn't mind them downporting from modern for skills, it'd be modern shadower pickpocket (fake meso coins on hit, with an obvious indicator that they're pickpocket coins) with a modified classic version of meso explosion (only explodes fake coins, coins explode where they are left instead of seeking out mobs like modern).
>>737023541Warrior is acting like he's going to hit the Ludi PQ boss.
accuraccy is completely fucked at the moment
>>737023652I've not played either version of CB but does meso explosion... explode meso that are not gonna hit anything?
>>737010921I hate my life so im going to play the shit out of this.
>>737019224this tier list reads like it was made by AI
>>737023741NTA but it's not so much an explosion as it is a missile.>Toggle for farming meso explosion>Toggle for bossing meso explosion>Whenever you attack, special "meso coins" drop (red if they're for bossing)>When you use meso explosion, these coins home in on the closest monster (or all on the one with the highest HP if they're for bossing)
>>737023760you don't look like that
Im buying a beta code.....
>>737018680>Make a big deal about PQs being back>Nerf them into uselessnessHuh?
>>737023791refer to >>737022527every resource right now is vibecoded. the information itself is correct on most of them except the one with the job ranking list, the guy prompting got overzealous. they're all functional with the exception of this one.
This job advancement is peak comedy.
>>737023741classic meso explosion>explodes any meso on the floor that you can loot (mob drops, self drops, etc)>damage formula is a combination of your stats and the number of mesos droppedreworked meso explosion (sometime around post-chaos, pre RED I think? I can't remember the exact timeframe)>explodes pickpocketed meso on the floor>explosion hits modern meso explosion>same as reworked, but now the mesos are heat-seeking missiles that fly across the mapclassic pickpocket>hitting mobs drops miniscule amounts of coins (imagine 10 brown meso coins falling on the floor)>can pick these upmodern pickpocket>hitting mobs drops fake meso that is unlootable, can only be used for meso explosionhere are some vids as referencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUu-TxzOtkohttps://youtu.be/jbtZSMCJ_Gk?t=6
>>737018680>people complain about PQs being limited to 1 party per channel>Nexon listens and changes itwew
>>737024029>MISS>MISS>MISS>MISSmake it stop...
>>737018680>PQs are effectively dailies nowthanks I fucking hate it
>>737023865Same. Im waiting for the 16th to roll around so there will be more codes.
Classic is going to die if they don't fix the early game.It's literally unplayable right now unless you pick mage.
>>737018680The exp nerf would maybe have been tolerable if you got really good item rewards from kpq but you don't even get good items let alone a good amount.
>>737018680>you can do PQs whenever you want now, meaning that spamming them would be even more unbalanced than when you had to fight for them>WTF WHY WERE REWARDS NERFEDyou are such a bitch LOL
>>737024232Honestly considering the new professions, I'd even be alright with KPQing if they offered random basic materials.Same with LPQ and other PQs.
>>737024209>tranny with a name like a groomer's poisoning the well asking for aranNEMI RUN DON'T FALL FOR IT
guess I won't be going page...fighter it is thenhttps://www.reddit.com/r/MSClassicWorld/comments/1sluthz/comment/ogb3eo9/
>>737024209this image has way too much soul
>>737024209I trust Nemi
>>737024036Thank you for your help, I thought the skill only exploded mesos that are eligible to hit something (the old version).
>>737024303Good I don't want to see Pages running around that aren't me
>>737024036honestly I loved how Artale did it although it really wasn't meso explosion anymore>pickpocket now applies a stacking debuff>meso explosion explodes the debuff
rate my custom (she canonically has big boobs and thick thighs)
>supposed OG mapler youtuber/streamer doesn't know there's a land of the wild boar 2i always knew he was a fake
>>737024425that's it I'm going page to spite you nowunless this is a reverse psychology trick and you just want me to suffer?!
>>737024638are you looking for a boyfriend?
>>737024303anyone assuming the meta based off of the original game is going to get fucked overthis is a classic+ situation and not a pure copy/paste; the mastery skill changes, shield mechanic changes, and the handful of new skills we got should make this apparent to anyone who has played the game enough to get out of victoria island in the OG or in a private serveras far as we know, they could completely radicalize the warriors at third job to make them less samey; we could see something as goofy as Paladin being reworked into a classic version of MS2 runeblade by doubling down on the original elemental buffs and turning them into stances
>>737024691He's a real one, should see his ilbi hunting
>>737017313actually party grinding is the only time i've actually had conversations in this game so far
>>737024862 i did. just doing some light ribbing
>>737012042Mobbing is overrated. It's okay for some classes to just excel at being mobile with high single target damage.
For anyone playing now. How long does it take to get the beta rewards?
>>737024841i could see pages getting %chance to keep charge integrated into the base charged blow, which would be a pretty big buff and give them buttons to press that aren't power strike/slash blastpage/wk seems like a good target for buffs
Togain
>>737011778No way are they doing May. Why is everyone saying that? What even gives you an smidge of hope that they would do that?
>>737011778absolutely notmaybe if this was a PR CBT where the game is 99% of the way there, but this is an actual test with how fucked some of the formulas are
why is everyone judging everything based purely on 1st jobIMO balance can be fucked for 1st job as long as it gets better in 2nd
>>737025845If your class can't hit any enemies except snails in first job, chances are you're not sticking it out to 2nd job
>>737024209>people asking for Pirates and AranPlease fucking stop
>>737025882Nemi made Pirates and they were appropriateNot cannoneer though
>>737025845remember, most of the people hitting level 30 on the second day have been playing non-stop, realistically most people would take over a week to get to level 30, and spending a whole week like this just isn't fun
>>737025882nu-maple is good, actually
>>737025882Pirates are pretty much a given at this point, but fuck Aran and any other donut steel "class"
>>737025882Anything beyond Pirates is unnaceptable.
Do we have any idea what time/timezone codes might be going out? Do we know what time they went out to the Maplecon attendees yesterday?
>ruins your nostalgia
>>737025882
>>737025845to be fair, the second job advancement having fucked up evade stats is absolutely something worth judging over
Speaking of classes, would you be against new exclusive classic classes to the game as long as it remains true to the ethos of "Classic"? Realistically does the GMS team even have the resources to produce something like that?
>>737026440I'd be fine with that and it wouldn't even be unexpected>does the GMS team even have the resources to produce something like that?Yes. In fact GMS has a track record of having unique classes and exclusive classes. The whole Shine branch of classes (Sia, Erel Light, whatever that archer is called) are different in 6th job compared to other classes specifically because it's a "non-KMS class".I can easily see them doing Classic classes and then "revamping them" for modern later on
>>737026440yes, GMS is capable of itthey could realistically downport some of the modern classes with minor reworks
I got accepted into the petit planet closed beta before I got my code for maplestory classic beta
>>737026440I'd prefer to see additional classes be worked in as new branches for the original four classes. Like Pirates could be reworked as a third subclass for Rogues alongside Assassins and Bandits. There's only so many "class archetypes" and stat combinations that can be done in OSMS without major overlap causing one class to completely outperform another at its "job" (e.g. single-target dps, mobbing, healing/buffing). New classes are an easy way to generate hype and always bring people back to try them out but I think they really get away from the ethos of "Classic Maplestory". I would much rather see them add more build variety among the existing classes, which they seem to be trying to do with some of the skill changes and fact that you can't max every skill for each job.
>>737026510modern classes try to be way too unique with their exclusive mechanics and such that are too far off from classic's philosophies so most of them couldn't be de-made for classic even if you stripped away their "character" statusones I can see POSSIBLY having potentials of being fitting after de-makes are:>old Cygnus>battle mage>cannoneer>dual blade (if they make the distinction between it and shadower clear without mogging shadower)>Evan's playstyle of combining spells to create a stronger attack (not the class itself)>Shade's spirit monk theme>Lara/Ho Young's nature magic themealso, as for thieves we could potentially create a new branch that uses a chain or a chakram as the weapon
>>737026785nice, now if only the quality of the game was as good as their animations and artstyle
sex with nemi
>>737027360the music certainly is of even higher qualityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iRkbo0EpW4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE5p3f32uq4
>>737026440As long as those exclusive classes don't push ClassicMS into a direction that it can't ever recover from>Double/Flash Jump on everyone>Streamlined flat mapsThese were some of the few things that led to modern maple as we know it.
>>737024209Cute and hopefully the adjustments aren't too hard to implement
>>737027535nemi kinda cute ngl
>>737027304+blaster
I understand that event goers got the invitation codes, but some fuckass streamers? Total streamers death.
>>737027304this but add hayato tooyou could also steal some of kaiser's attacks for a hypothetical OC 4th job for dragon knight/dark knight
>>737027834Almost all of the streamers playing the game did go to events
>>737027689I'll actually take it a step further,Genesis/map wide-AOE spam introduced with 4th jobs needs to go away period.
>>737027880I cast death upon them anyway
>>737012308>make sins unplayable>make bowman unplayable (no jumpshot)unfathomably retarded
They should bring the Maplestory Home feature into Classic.
>>737013307>>>dutch players fucked over and can't trade
>>737027304>old cygnusabsolutely the fuck not, they were copy/pastes that were deliberately overpowered in the earlygame while becoming absolutely useless lategameanyone who has played a private server in the last 15 years knows that cyggers are a bad idea>battle mageacceptable, it was designed with preBB in mind>cannoneeracceptable as long as they tune down the hitbox size on certain attacks and change some skills>dual bladeacceptable, give it a soft rework to make it more different from shadower (which is likely already getting its own soft rework as it is) and avoid doing cash shop bullshit>evan-like classa magical combo class could be nice, but desu I see a reworked classic+ OSMS paladin overlapping here>shade/lara/hoyoungthey can be in but they might as well be completely different classes in-name only
So lemme get dis str8 yte boiClassic is launching with only second job adv? Or is that just beta, and its 3rd on launch?What content is there even to do?Zoomies will 'beat' this game literally within a few weeks and then move on to something that's getting updates and has bosses or something to do
>>737028718>Zoomies will 'beat' this game literally within a few weekslevel 70 took me several months back then
>>737015571Just recruit normies you dumb cuntMost zoomies are racist incels anyways so it shouldn't be too difficult
Do we know what servers they'll launch with? Any sheet reference with time zones?
They haven't said anything about third jobs yet, so we can only speculate about after the closed beta, same with vic island only.What we do know is that it's absolutely filtering modernfags and pserver brainrot fags.The only people even high enough level to advance to second job are the sweatiest of the sweatlords.They will be reminded what it means for the grind to begin at lv1, to be destitute spending all your money on pots, and they will be filtered.
>>737029037Am I a modernfag if I have a legion of 10500?I played since the beta on-and-off and still have the mark of beta, but I switched to Reboot.
>>737016656>give streamers access 2 days before the beta beta because fuck you I guess unless you're a cocksucker >decide to nuke archers and sins because fuck you I guess>made job advancement cheesable>going to make everything else ezscape and cater to nufaggot NEWBS who fucking SUCKprivate servers are genuinely better than what nexon is fucking doing rn. It's genuinely pathetic At least classic WoW had a solid 1-2 years of fun, Classic Maple won't have ANY fun because wizet is RETARDED
>>737015571I'm gonna say it. MapleStory /v/ guilds are always dogshit.If you want to play with anons, just post in a thread for parties or play with anons you've befriended in other games.
>>737029207>jojoposter>retardedyerp... pick two...
>>737029037>to be destitute spending all your money on potsthis and figuring out how to overcome this issue is something i miss dearly about old mmos. the struggle of being poor was kinda fun, then eventually you don't need to worry about pot costs anymore and that feels like progression in itself
>>737029280>nigger>faggotnigger... faggot...
>>737029207it's not streamers, it's people who showed up to the physical convention
>>737010921I remember getting a sin from 1 to 35 over a weekend during Summer break. I think Omega Sector was getting released for the first time so I remember Dark Sighting to see how far I could get and then quiting shortly after. Those were the days.
This whole project feels directionless. It's a given that it's a cynical release whose main motivator is another revenue stream (it's Nexon after all) but I was at least hoping it'd be somewhat well-managed. They've chosen such weird things to stubbornly stick to like a lack of early game resources and an extremely slow grind while implementing the weirdest balance changes and doing truly confounding shit like nerfing KPQ. Not to mention the general lack of communication and insanely slow pace of news and updates, I can't imagine there's more than like 12 people working on this. And now that a (slightly) larger audience than some shills attending an IRL event have finally gotten their hands on it, it sincerely doesn't seem ready to release somehow despite being a year out from the announcement. Maybe on a technical level it's working, but it seems like a cut and paste job with a smattering of balance changes that seem so random I can't even tell what they're trying to accomplish with them.Still gonna play the shit out of it. I just wish it would just come out asap, not even because I'm desperate to clock hours so much as the wait doesn't seem like it'll be worth it given the glacial pace of dev combined with how meh the balance changes are turning out to be.
Will I get to talk to ambiguously aged female teens over the phone again though?People casually giving out phone numbers was some shit back then.
>>737018423there's no way it took nexon 2 years to make maplestory
Dreamscape, Breaking Benjamin, MS classic. Home.
>>737029550The closed test so far has given me the image that they'll run an open test. Some of the issues are likely not that hard to adjust and fix, but I'm also afraid some would require similar sort of a test ground.I'm also hoping for a soon release as I want to clock in the hours.>>737029859We're going home... soon... maybe
>>737028903>Lvl 70 took me several months as a down syndrome toddler who knew nothingThe game is solvedMost gamers will hit cap within 3-4 weeks and there'll be fuckall to do but goon
when are the gooks sending out my key it is already the 16
>>737030301>Most gamers will hit cap within 3-4 weeks and there'll be fuckall to do but goonthis applies to every single mmo since 2012
>>737030301you clearly never played old maple
any axe fighter reach lv30 yet? I want to see how bleed works
>>737030352If they do it around their time(PDT) and similar to the launch on 14th then it's going to be like 10-14h from now
>>737030301That is a player mindset issue that no game developer has the power to fix.
>>737030301my man, no game has infinite content for people who play 24/7, not even MMOs, and specially not a remake of a 20yo MMOGMs should not make a game for that 1% of players
>>737030547it probably works like every other dot in the game
>>737030547I'm more interested in how the Pages utilize their stun
>>737030727I meant Nexon, not GMs, obviously
do we know if INT = 1 M.Att or does it work more like Att stat in this ?
>>737030804The formula changed making lukless pointless
>>737030727>WoW Classic lasted 2 years>OSRS lasted 4 years>MapleClassic doesn't even have 1 months worth of contentmy man, this shit is dead assholes.
Which of these should be brought over to classic?
>>737030878Haunted House and CWK are both core classic maps, albeit very late into its life
Send me my key already REEEEEEEE
>>737030878https://youtu.be/AfsNt5oZrqw?si=fMlsOZDpaOrOL95D
>>737030878Definitely not Singapore, that map completely broke the game's balance with their overpowered mobs
>>737030946Im prison mike. I’m going to hack your ip address and deliver everything you want and more. I’m driving there right now, I accomplished the backtracing of your post history in mere moments and am driving to your house duder to deliver everything you need.
>>737030959>Mysterious Path 3 needs a map layout overhaul. >Ulu City really needed stronger/harder hitting monsters to offset the high EXP. >Krexel needed to be buffed because that fucker was just too easy to farm since he barely did shit.Under the assumption Singapore is brought over since it is considered classic even if it led to profound exp problems later. I have no idea why the MapleSEA stuff was barely threatening against the players outside of Targa and Scarlion.
I forgot to register for CBT...
>>737016656>>Potions are impossible to get forcing players to stop and regen regularly, disengaging them from the gameThis is literally the point of maplestory. Stand around at the hangout spot in HHG1 and chat for five minutes while regening MP to kill more mushies.
>>737031314>This is literally the point of maplestory.No the fuck it's notAre you retarded?
>>737028718dont worry anon i promise you can get 3rd job as soon as you make it to el nath :)
korean guy made a guide for common english maple terms for the koreans vpning and playing on our server.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6itadmNb_E
>>737030878Unironically none. I place Classic's spiritual cutoff the moment Wizet was officially dissolved which was during Aqua Road
>>737031075>Krexel needed to be buffed because that fucker was just too easy to farm since he barely did shit.Krexel was fucking weird. It was braindead to farm, but it was basically an HP sponge that dropped jack shit. It was okay exp if you had fat damage, but most people would go farm mobs instead of marching their asses over to Krexel anyway.
>>737030804They've changed the formulas around, but magic attack one is a bit conflicting info. It is not 1int=1matt and they've also changed some of the scrolls so you are not getting nearly as much total matt so easily anymore. Early on mages are still really good and especially because they aren't having problems with the accuracy like others are currently in the closed test.Other classes are likely to even out as they get access to mastery and 2nd job skills so their damage becomes more consistent.
>>737026440I personally think the "resistance" class is a potential 6th branch of explorer, can call it inventor or whatever instead and have revolve around mech stuff flavour
>>737028718>>737030301>zoomers will leave the game because it's too grindy>zoomers will leave the game because it's too easyMake up your mind, are these zoomers leaving because the grind is too hard or because the grinding is so easy they're gonna hit level 200 in the first 5 hours and have nothing else to do?
>>737031758>Zoomers are all one personGMS nufaggots like (You) will be filtered by the difficultyNostalgiafag zoomies are sweaty incels who will nolife regardlessNo bosses, no PQ, nothing to do after leveling = dead gaemshrimple 'as
>play grindy game>complain it's grindynumaple was a mistake
>>737027304>old Cygnusno>battle magenot sure, leaning no due to being not distinct enough from just being a mage>cannoneerfine emough for a branch of pirate>dual blade (if they make the distinction between it and shadower clear without mogging shadower)scrap dual blade, make distinct class identity with new weapon like kusarigama>Evan's playstyle of combining spells to create a stronger attack (not the class itself)this is just whatever I dont thnk you can make a class outta this, too donut steel>Shade's spirit monk themeanother too donut steel theme>Lara/Ho Young's nature magic thememore donut steellisten guy we cant deviate from the core RPG archetypes, the tried and true otherwise you risk losing all identity between classes and becoming numaple again
>>737031915>leaning no due to being not distinct enough from just being a mageThey played more like melee mages
What are your thoughts so far?I saw one streamer took like one hour to beat bowman job advancement.
Its so fucking funny listening to all these people who thought they knew 'classic maplestory' because they started playing a year before Big Bang and their 'classic maplestory' experience was running around oneshotting jr boogies on the boars map at level 28.
>>737031758Are you ESL?Genuine question.Both of the posts you responded to were stating how quickly zoomers will beat the game and move on.
>>737031915how is something like a monk or a nature magic a donut steel theme?
>>737032015Yes, but up until now the complaint was that the game was too slow and grindy for zoomers, now it's apparently the opposite and zoomers are apparently god gamers who can accomplish what used to take years in only weeks
>>737029547My earliest memory was around the time the game just released and the cash shop didnt even work.
>>737030878none, except maybe CWK
>>737032016if you can define a class in terms of "[existing class archetype] [color] [emotion]" it is definitionally a donut steel. Ho Young is an OC of mage in every sense of the term.
>>737032059>YesThanks, have a good day.
>>737031974The game also had a bunch of quests at that point throwing literally hundreds upon hundreds of healing items at you.You could genuinely get all the way to lv50 without spending a cent on pots.During the early days with vic only and ossyria?Hope you didn't skip the relaxer quest, bitch.
>>737032141>relaxerchairs are numaple
>>737032174>down jumpclassic already is numaple, idiot
>numaplefags think lvling and grinding is the point of the gamewhy do they think this way?
>>737031915battle mage is different enough from every other class in the game to justify adding it as a hypothetical 4th explorer mage branchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWc4kj94a9Yhttps://bc.hidden-street.net/character/class/battle-mage-4th-jobat best, you can argue that they should have a few skill changes (such as potentially losing Party Shield if they want to keep smokescreen as shadower utility)
Thoughts on F/P? Everyone was making a fuss over Fire Arrow, but was Poison Breath slept on?https://www.twitch.tv/ereklo_game/clip/AffluentCovertLardBibleThump-5q7WTdOxDps_VRxG
>>737029550This sounds like Nexon on brand to me.
>>737032016because they're too specific, maybe the nature one less so because it can be one representation of the earth element of magician schools but a monk? theres really no branching from there its quite a specific... how to say, non-entropic archetype
>>737032308Poison Breath was useless before because it was single target, making Poison Breath hit multiple targets is a substantial upgrade.
>>737032269sovl
>>737032308Please wait at least 12 hours between advertisements wiggerlover >>737018526
>>737032403you retarded? i just saw it on maplestory discord
>>737031969They definitely need to adjust and change some things. My hopes are that they aren't too hard to do and not time consuming enough to push launch further away than they thought.>>737032308It looks fun to use even if the clip is a bit of a mess. I think some people get too hung up on the number changes without actually seeing how things are playing out in actual gameplay scenarios.
>>737032308Why are numaple zoomoids like this?
>>737031191Registered on 17 accounts, 4 got in, hoping the keys go for at least $50 each.
>>737031969Watching from the cuck chair, my main concern is only that balance seems poor. Like they tweaked a bunch of knobs and still ended up with magestory somehow. A lot of skills still just make no sense and need to be reworked completely imo, but I don't know if I have confidence in this team to be able to do it. At this point I'm starting to think they should have just left the balance where it was and let the game be solved day 1, now it's just slightly unfamiliar and still probably going to be solved within a couple weeks anyway.
>>737032403i don't understand how anyone can stand listening to them. it's just yelling and loud = funny
>>737032419Even if that were true, shame would have kept you from posting it
>>737032474Post em here, so your old pal anon can get in. Nobody has to know.
>>737032475Because the game design favors mages, it's just pre-bb as a whole, you can't fix it when it's the core identity of how you implement stats. Other versions of the game, even pservers spent months or years working on that very same thing, classic has only been indev for like, a year, no matter what they say. They aren't even trying.
>>737016656>Potions are impossible to get forcing players to stop and regen regularly, disengaging them from the gameThis is good, retard.
>>737032269you're right, I didn't have too much experience on the class as I only played mechanic resistance class so I couldn't say for sure but honestly looking at that video I'm not convinced its that great of an addition.... its looking like donut steel kinda shit, a super unique mage that fights up close instead of fighting with their supreme magic from far away nahhhhh miss me with that shit manI just really like sticking as close to original RPG archetypes as possible, for all the rest experimental stuff theres always numpale for people you know?
>>737032308what is the deal with these guys? could they sound any more zoomoid?
>>737032515no one has the keys yet (besides early keys), they go out sometime in the next 12 hours, I think it goes live 11 EST.Also no lmao, I want my money, thanks. I got fucking ripped off from that shit-ass maple con, worse than every maplefest before, this is how I make my money back.
>>737026440we really don't need more classes
>>737032474I would spend 50 on one
>>737032525And honestly I don't even care that much if it's magestory. I was gonna roll a mage anyway so it's just as well. An official, monetized pserver that comes out tomorrow would be preferable to waiting months and months for more tiny balance tweaks only for the meta to still basically be just mages, because as you say, it's really hard to balance your way out of that.
>>737032542>Making our players NOT play our game is a good thing
>>737030875>WoW Classic lasted 2 yearsNot for the people that would be playing enough to hit cap in MS in 3-4 weeks. Those people were all caught up in Classic within a month.
>>737032547They're twins who played since the beta and grew up playing well into current maplestory and now make a living playing the game Ironically more informed than almost anybody in these threads
>>737032576you mean not yet
>>737032629Me either, just pointing out it's a core concept of pre-bb that mages shit all over everything, they have the best utility, bar none, no amount of number changes or minor skill adjustments will change that, they need to re-do the entire stat and accuracy systems from the ground up, which they clearly did NOT do, and it's now too late.
/ourgirl/ is playing.https://www.twitch.tv/caromel_
>>737023323As long as it's more than what everyone else has, what's the problem? Now acc is actually useful. Nobody should just hit 100% of the time uninvested, not even archers.
>>737032709I don't know
>>737032671maybe someone should inform them what an inside voice is. My neighbor's shitty zoomer kids are the same way, I live in the room in my house furthest from their house and you would swear their lacking volume control teenagers were here with me.
>>737032717You can stop this weird larp already, anon. Nemi already mentioned they're fixing the accuracy formula because it's not working as intended.
Is this like classic where I can P2W or use cheat engine to vacuum hack everything into one spot?
>>737032717Capping at 40% is still way too low. I'm fine with everything else but missing 60-80% of the time just feels terrible. I will gladly be poor and have to grind shit mobs for pennies as long as I can regularly (but not 100%) hit on level mobs
>>737032771No
>>737032547Show some respect. They literally had a tornado in their vicinity and refused to take cover because they were 10% away from level 19.
>>737032771P2W seems like it's going to be buying mesos ('leaf points' versus NX means they're probably doing the two tier system they have on modern maple where there's a market to exchange mesos for maple points and the other way around)chinese who bought keys are already testing hacks, still no GMs so the game's gonna be fucked in a month regardless. Even in a closed test no one's policing it lmao
>>737010921>closed playtestcompletely ruined my interest in thisI don't play MMOs so I can feel like a third class citizen
>>737032828>'leaf points' versus NXAnon, it's "leaf points" because they want people to test the cash shop too and these beta tests are literally tied to player accounts.
>>737032634Anon, any good activity features periods of rest. Your life shouldn't be one-note. Don't just do the exact same thing at the exact same intensity forever. Sit down and rest and chat with someone.
>>737010921Nigga you ugly af. Fuck nexon for not lettin me in
>>737032850So why bother calling it leaf points instead of just... NX?Why make an item that goes in your inventory and is redeemed for the ethereal premium currency (Exactly like how maple points vouchers work btw)?It's clearly them testing the two tier system anon.
>>737032776Yeah, but that's 40% for the job advancement you do one time.
Not sure why so many people are desperate to play.Shit looks painful. So much effort and it all gets wiped anyway. I like the hardcore gameplay but I wouldn't want to sink the time and effort knowing it's all for nothing.
>>737032904>So why bother calling it leaf points instead of just... NX?Because NX is tied to the account not to Maplestory
>>737011778lol
>>737032932I've been playing maplelegends for years, and having the same 20 people in the sandbox gets tiresome
>>737032874Sure anonPeople are definitely going to stop every three minutes to regen for five minutes and have a chat with somebody and not just quit due to the inability to play
>>737033005The same 30 people with 5034983984 accounts going at the same time really kills that server.
>>737032934So why do they give NX on tespia to mess around with?
>>737032932>So much effort and it all gets wiped anyway.If you specifically mean the beta, probably for the CBT attire.
>>737033012Maplestory is already played while watching or reading in the background.
How does it feel knowing Stirges are goated in Classic?By far the best grind in the game, especially for ranged.
>>737032709cute but seems like a normgroid
>>737033073GMS doesn't have a tespia server retardIt's one of the things people have been chastising Inkwell about
>>737033124>GMS doesn't have a tespiaoh, you're not IN it, lmfao okay buddy
>>737033116she been playing since 2006. You don't get a normie card after that
>>737033012I just spent three days grinding a different old MMO and doing exactly that.
>>737033150Maple is normie for asians
>>737033071Did adding in Neo Tokyo help mitigate how fucked the power levels were? I swear they only put that in just as a bandaid.I think Classic MS is going to NEED to have ALL of the Zipangu shit including Neo Tokyo far later down the road. But I don't know if the purists are ready for that discussion
>>737032932I would've liked to actually test things out and how it feels to play. I don't care about the rewards or that it's wiping as what I'm more interested in is how it actually feels to play.You can get a rough image from watching others and reading up on stuff, but that's about it.
>>737033012Bro is a fucking giga autist silent grinder.
>>737033236Not the anon you're responding to, but there's only a couple of the NT bosses worth doing. however, seems like if you aren't bringing 3 characters to the fight or just soloing it with 6 alts, don't even bother. just make a mage and sell leech to the fools who made "attackers" just to hold a rope from 1-180+
>>737032546melee mage/spellswords/battelmages are absolutely an old RPG archetype, both in tabletop and in video games. even if you want to be pedantic and say paladin is already a mage knight, battle mage fits the warlock aesthetic with dark magic tooidk what else to tell ya man, you can't say "it's not different enough" and then complain that it's too different. it's just within the right zone that there are preBB private servers that have downported it just fine, with obvious number/skill adjustments/
>>737033254Anybody using Maplestory as a substitute for a chatroom is living in an era that no longer exists. I don't actually believe anybody saying potion shortages are good either because not only is that not how old school maplestory was, it's actually worse since the quests that'd give out potions are nerfed (you can now only get 10 from olaf). Instead of suffering with money at level 21, you're now suffering at level 12.
>>737033236>Did adding in Neo Tokyo help mitigate how fucked the power levels were?I don't think I understand the question exactly, the NT bosses + Auf just makes things even more autistic with multi-clienting your own 500 characters or elitist for any groups that might be formed (bring like 2 people and mule everything).Considering they're balancing Zak helm in classic to not make every other helm irrelevant, I'm sure they'll make things less fucked in actual classic if the server goes long enough that we get the NT expansion.
>>737033150does she have nudes and does she like white men? you seem to be an expert on her
>>737033481>Considering they're balancing Zak helm in classic to not make every other helm irrelevantWhat did they change about it? Did this get datamined? Zakum Helmet (1) (2) (3) are probably leftovers from the original files, if you're referring to that.
>>737033698NTA but there was some datamininghttps://ohmi69.github.io/osms_datamine_dashboard/#overview
>>737033553what is wrong with you
>>737033475We rotated sitting down on recliners back then. None the less it is very common to chat to your buddy list and guild while grinding.
>>737033738you have to go back
>>737033728Depends, what are class hats like? As is right now +5 in both primary and secondary stats is really good. Even in some more custom servers like Artale in which you can have large rolls on gear that Zhelm would be best in slot because chances are your class hat would cap out at 7 stats total.
>>737033698I'm not even sure if I can find the source anymore or if its a fever dream but I do recall mentions from datamines or Nemi/Inkwell/Classic team that zaks will be like +3/5 all to allow for more gear options along with the all the stat formula changes to heavily kill the pure (main stat) builds.Likely will remain a solid option like you've said though >>737033921
>>737030878Honestly? None of them except for cwk, it's precarious, you can fall down, extreme levels of platforming in these spots that filtered tons of people. Haunted House is op as fuck by its own map design, so the mobs have to either be really bad, which renders the entire place useless, or they give good exp which will objectively make jesters/hoodoos the best maps to grind on for their level range as they were in the retail version for years. They would have to rework the platforming to be more like a victoria island map for it to fit into the game and make pulling huge amounts of mobs less convenient. Anything that gets ported into classic from later versions needs to maintain the platforming aspects victoria island did. 3 super flat platforms and a bottom floor with massive spawn rates and mobs that move quickly is not good map design, one single floor in a very small room is not good map design.
>>737033787what but leeching...WHERE ARE THE AFK MOBS AIEEEE
>>737033728desu that's a decent set of stats for itIt's a big enough defense jump from other hats to justify running zakum, though it's a bit of a disappointment to see the acc be completely irrelevant. Warriors can arguably dodge zak entirely if the game is going to continue being a pain in the ass with accuracy>>737033921>>737033961Most of them just give +5 mainstat or +5 substat, depending on the hat, so all you're really gaining from a zhelm at the same level is an extra +5 to your main or sub, a minor acc/avoid buff in most cases, and more defense.This is also without considering that by the time we get el nath and zakum, that we're going to be higher level and have other hat options too unless they do something cheeky.
Why did you all hate Wonky so much?
>>737034038Better reference pic with all of the level 50 hats from the datamine.
>>737034038Well Zak very likely remains an actual upgrade for the most part still (and skill books when we eventually get 4th), but it won't be a +15 to everything fuck you compared to like +2 luk options.Though I'm not sure if you can even scroll enough hp gear to survive at 50 in new classic
>>737034141what site is this
>>737034189meowdb
Is the new area accessible in the game and has anyone gone there yet?
>>73703421321st
Confirmed damage reduction if there's enough of a level difference. Site doesn't have an accuracy formula on the other hand.
>>737034303Is there anything in there about pages not sucking ?
>>737034187>Though I'm not sure if you can even scroll enough hp gear to survive at 50 in new classicYeah, that's my main point. By the time Zakum shows up, we'd likely have stronger gear unless they significantly rework it. Zakum needed the "fuck you +15 lmao" stats to make it relevant at the powerlevel people would be entering it at; the level 50 requirement was just a way for Nexon to justify selling scissors to the playerbase so that people could overgear their low characters.I feel like both the fight and the acquisition method will change in some way, because it'd be a bit hard to justify a max raid of 30 people entering it for 2-3 helmet drops with the current stats (barring just doing it for fun/exp). The hat needed a nerf in some way, but the rewards are iffy within the context of OSMS. Zakum is going to need the skill book drops to justify running it if the hats are this nerfed.
>>737033553I just heard her talk about coachella so yes she 100% fucks white guys
no more jump and avoid cape
>>737034141>>737034038These are the highest level things that we know about too, and we're already seeing them receive a nice chunk of extra stats.Lv80/90 hats?They're probably going to be even better than zak hats.The kingmaker is finally dead.
>>737034438so that is what people are missing, they have to equip stuff with dex or acc to make up the acc difference.
>>737033475As a kid I was constantly out of potions.
>>737034364Mmm maybe with the changed defense formulas and stuff they'll be able to make it workable with normal hp values since thankfully hp washing isn't a thing on classic.Anyway I'm predicting a slowish release of content that essentially soft caps peoples levels and gear so we might end up on the "Zakum patch" long enough that everyone can run it and get helmed eventually.Not sure how acquisition can be handled though, while some kind of alternate "boss points" system could work for steady progress towards a helm, its not really classic?
>>737034438>one stat>one(1) speedThey are trolling.
Anyway is there news on further beta tests and hopefully an OBT one? Need to figure out how to actually play (VPN setups and latency issues and stuff) since I'm not in a GMS authorized region
Seems like Tauros aren't giga fucked hp to exp ratio wise now.
>>737034141>>737034187>>737034364>>737034491>>737034593desu I could see them making zakum drop a shitty zhelm and then letting you evolve it into a higher-level version with usable stats via a quest of some kind. There were a handful of quests like that in OSMS.My personal hope is that they'll do something like the visitor event and let you evolve the zhelm into one of four job-based options with a recolored/edited sprite and different stat spread and buffed def/accuracy/etc. +10/+10 for a level 80-100 or so hat would justify chasing Zakum gear, assuming that all of the standard level sets continue to get buffs. If they're unhinged, they could even make it a legacy-type set and force you to upgrade it over several level tiers like several later Korean games started doing (most notably Lost Ark), but that's its own rabbit hole of problems
>>737034672Nobody knows because Nexon seems to have zero confidence in how this thing is proceeding or how it should be rolled out. We get one nugget of info at a time, usually spaced out by like a month. We'd be lucky to know by the end of this closed testing period when/if there will be another.
>>737034672No news regarding other tests or launch. Considering the current state of the closed test it doesn't give me that good of an image. I'd guess open test is on the table and coming next, but it's all just guess work.Maybe more information after the closed test is done and towards early may since anniversary date.
>>737033475>I don't actually believe anybody saying potion shortages are good either because not only is that not how old school maplestory wasPretty much everything after leafre and 4th jobs is bb lite.You joined late, sorry.
>>737034737>>737034774Ah damn, well helps to remind myself of Nexon's bullshit at least.Hope the anons with keys are having fun at least
>>737034438>1 speedThis is Clownstory.
>>737034725Yeah that sounds workable if they want the helm to be used till like ~100 and then eventually replaced by like PB's 110+ timeless/reverse gear.Considering the direction that they're going in it'll probably not feel as bad to be using normal class gear vs boss stuff
so they're giving unique common items just generic stats so theres no reason to use anything but class items. which is lame, I liked seeing people use pig headbands and pig illustrators and different colored bandanas on
>>737034725>I could see them making zakum drop a shitty zhelm and then letting you evolve it into a higher-level version with usable stats via a quest of some kindFunny enough, that's actually how it worked in JMS.It started at +4 with only 7 slots, but through a series of quests could be upgraded to a +10 stat/10 slot helmet.
>>737034213No, and very few people will make it because it's a minimum level 40 area. It takes 40-50 hours of grinding to get to level 40.
>>737035241>Req pop: 88>defame>just a guy with a bowlcut now
Do you guys think World Tour maps should be included in Classic? Singapore, Malaysia, NLC, Mushroom Shrine.
>>737035260I think you underestimate the number of jobless people/content creator niggers with an access key
>>737035297sg/msia is too gamebreaking without changesMost of NLC as well even if its hyper nostalgia for GMSfagsMushroom shrine and showa (No lady/boss) is harmless enough but not a necessary addition by any means
>What if we took Ant Tunnel 1, and flipped it?
>>737032546nothing in numaple is experimental. it's generic as fuck and everything plays the same.and for the record, battlemages are an established trope in media, so even that argument is totally meaningless. i know the boss baby is the only movie you've ever watched but you need to expand your horizons.
>>737035374encounter with the buddah is one of the most broken and boring training spots of all time
>Even archers with max focus are missing most of their shots against the job advancement mobsAt this point, I'm convinced Nexon tested ALL of the content on those premade level 50 characters from the livetest, and did not try fighting any monsters at their intended levels. It's the only explanation for an oversight this big.
>>737035464It's not an oversight, they want it to be slow because they're listening to the stupid faggots who whine about wanting a "hardcore classic experience" when they DON'T WANT THAT AT ALL
>>737035464i'm still leaning on "they fucked something up" because it's such a tremendously hard thing to make a bad design choice for. all there is to do is leave feedback on it.
>>737033345nah melee mages weren't really a thing in old RPGs I don't know where you're getting that fromsince time immemorial a mage is depicted as old decrepit long bearded men fending off their enemies with long ranged magics and intellect, i.e. Grendel the Really Oldwell theres a reason why I'm switching between not different enough and and too different is due to nuance right? I think it oversteps its welcome in being too unique with its use of magic in a melee way while not adhering enough to the typical magic wielding mage shooting magic missiles and following a unique cardinal of elemental magic or some shit like that, but that's just like my opinion man
>>737035453I forgot himes was part of mush shrine as well. But yes, same comment for that
I need release nyow. I need maple chibis NYOW.
Do you like the new crafting system?
>want this nice, high def label and chat rings?>FUCK YOU, streamers ewhores and influencers ONLY>enjoy missing out and being stuck with slop rings that look like garbage that you have to pay for every 90 daysgay, I'll just stop following until it comes out then I'll bot it. Limited content for rng keys is the worst thing ever.
>>737035464>>737024209
>>737035575play more games
>>737035723Yeah, its lame. Im going to see if I can get a key for cheap but if I cant im just not going to bother with the full release.
>>737035260there is already a lv37 player. anon i don't think you realize exactly how fast people will get to lv200 lol. people are gonna put their whole life on this shit cause it's official and not a pserver or mapleland jank, it's that grim
>>737035823>it's that grimto be fair it's not like the world is in a good state anyway
>>737035823People are way overstating the difficulty. All the ADHD zoomers who can't do anything for more than 30 seconds are going to get left in the dust by the true autists who WAP 20 hours a day.
>>737011447That's what an autist would say.
>>737035854What's the word on weekly quests? If classic doesn't have any of that then normgroids are absolutely going to get filtered
>>737035464I was looking through the things that were data mined. Mages 2nd job advancement enemies didn't even have an avoid stat. Both Warrior mobs have 19 avoid. Thief mobs both have 23 avoid. Archers are at 30 and 31 avoid. All 2nd job advancement monsters are at level 35 as well so you get that penalty bonus to your accuracy.
>>737035924there's a soft daily (bonus exp for doing a PQ once) and there are crafting weeklies
>>737025882pirates kick ass. i'm sorry to break this to you but not only will the game get regular content updates but a lot of it will be old popular content like pirates.aran and every other named class needs to be totally truncated and just not exist in classic world thoughbeit. there is no fun in playing as someone else in a game like maplestory, it was always about playing your own character.by extensions cyggers need to be taken out back and shot too because they're just worse explorers that exist to move the dark mage plot forward. we just don't need them. keep it to explorers.
>>737035924Events are daily locked already, 100% they're doing weekly and daily locks on bosses (if only to stop people from getting zak helms day 3), but those won't matter when the grind has time requirements. PQs are worthless.
>>737035924Weekly profession quest gives this. Unsure if you can do it for all the professions or just pick one.
>>737035981Get fucked Aran nigger.
>>737035823and he has been grinding for 48 hours over the past 60 hours.I am willing to bet less than two dozen people will be that level on the 21st.
>>737036065>i don't think aran should be in the game>>GET FUCKED ARAN NIGGER??????
>>737025882pirates are going to be in the game one way or anothereither we get bucc and sair as third branch thieves/archers, or they are directly added into the gamearan should go fuck itself though, same for cyggers. the best case scenario would be aran's skills being distributed to the other classes in some way (e.g. 3rd job Rush, Crusader getting combo finishers with an actual AoE, possibly giving Bucc some of the combo buildup mechanics)
>>737035932>fuck archers especiallyYep, its maplestory alright.
>>737035854Not true. It is absolutely hard, especially if you're a warrior. No potion quests, accuracy nerf, extremely hard to hit job advance monsters.
>>737035981cygnus knights were literally made to allow people the opportunity to explore the higher level content in a controlled way, and then give an explorer a nice buff. After they uncapped them it fucked everything up, but keeping them to max 120 is perfectly fine.
>>737036157>here's a gimp class that you can't experience the whole game with but you're also required to level up to make another character strongerthis was moronic design then and it's moronic design now
>>737036236i think people are really underestimating the attack buff on claws.ppl shitting themselves over skills being weaker but the weapons are heavily buffed. of course you have to actually invest in secondary stat now.
>>737036306I just find the +3 strength funny.
>>737036236Sexiest weapon and armor set in the game
Will Dagger Booster bring dagger speed to (1)? Or is there a speed cap? Strength daggers are one stage faster than luck ones.
im gonna get SO many asian gfs playing maple classic and REAL asian gfs not fake ones not men larping, REAL asian gfs, just like the good old days
>>737035823>lv200lol lmao evenBack in the day it took the top grinders literal years to get to 170+ on gobies and himes, and needless to say, 99.99% of people did not get anywhere close to those people.Lv200 only became a realistic goal after 4th jobs were released.
>Snowshoes are five slots, require no stats, and start with +1 primary stat
>>737036714Times have changed. More and more people are doing nothing these days, and the people spending all their time grinding are now 30 somethings with no job rather than the teen/young adults with social lives. The sweats of current day are on a completely different level, and I'm not saying that as a compliment to them. Especially nowadays where internet clout is more of a hot commodity than ever.
>>737035409Not a single thing you said in your post is even remotely close accurate
>>737035823there's an I/L who hit 40 not long ago i think? it's really crazy how quickly people are almost at the beta cap. i know people won't be hitting 200 this fast because of the way lategame EXP curves though. but people will still reach it infinitely faster than old maple tryhards. you severely underestimate how much free time the most autistic people you know have when claude automates their coding jobs.
>>737037615concession accepted. you lost and got raped.
bro a full time online seether
>>737037691>>737037425Why are we pretending like NEET losers didn't exist 20 years ago? The big thing stopping people from leveling back in the day was the actual content released. It's not very complicated minmaxing your best potential grind spots, not much has changed in terms of what people know to be the best. Once Nexon opened up the new zones people zoomed levels, El Nath to Leafre was a huge jump in potential exp earned from monsters, along with 4th job. If Nexon NA stagnates the future zone releases as slow as how they did it back in the day, it'll take just as long.
>>737037853I accept your concession
>>737037859>The big thing stopping people from leveling back in the day was the actual content released.thisyou have to remember that higher exp mobs didn't release until later on. between the exp curve ramping up and general exp penalties for killing lower leveled mobs, 200 likely won't happen until we can grind on skeles again
>>737037859Yeah and people would quit within a month if they did that
>>737037859>El Nath to Leafre was a huge jump in potential exp earned from monstersYou don't even have to use that example; jumping from Victoria Island to El Nath/Aqua Road/etc. was also a pretty substantial boost.
>>737037853imagine being so raped you run to the archive just to rape yourself FOR YOUR RAPIST so he doesn't have to do it. you have achieved new levels of raped. concession accepted.
>>737037853The best thing about lazy trolls is that they can completely silenced by filtering one or two words.
>>737037923>and sweats would quit within a month if they did thatAnd nothing of value was lost.
what site can i use to check job skills
>>737040602https://ohmi69.github.io/osms_datamine_dashboard/#overviewThis has the datamined stuff. Granted some weapon multipliers were apparently tweaked.
