>anons: "anon, you must try New Vegas, it's a cool post-apocalyptic survival action-rpg with politics, aka your actions not only matter, but also shape how civilization evolves in The Mojave">me: "wow, that sounds cool, ok I'm going to play it">*plays it* >chore simulator + textwall after textwall + loading screen after loading screen>plus the slow walk (I know, mods / cheats exist) + ugly filter (again, more mods) + open empty world (aka, exploration isn't fun, feels like a boring job) + (very) fake survival vibes>PLUS ugly and confusing pipboy's maps and menus>the factions that are actually cool (The Kings, Great Khans) are not playable >the main factions consider you an ally at best, NOT a full member >after finishing the main quest and start the dlcs, your actions matter 0, Mojave still shitty and uglyWhat is the point of this game? Am I playing it wrong or something else?Should I try Stalker or I will have the same issues?It's sad because I would like to enjoy the game as it's described with people that like it:>>"cool post-apocalyptic survival action-rpg with politics, aka your actions not only matter, but also shape how civilization evolves in The Mojave"If there's in a future a remaster/remake, it should be like this.What shocked me the most is checking again all those positive comments about the game is, those are NOT about the game ITSELF, but the "vibes" of it. So basically it's all mental masturbation (?).
>>737012130no. it's boring to play. better quests but exploration isn't any fun, unlike the other games.
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>>737012130you fell for the meme, fallout 3 is the actual rpg, new vegas is just a hastily done buggy dlc
>>737012286So true, saar!
>>737012352tranny
>>737012130>What shocked me the most is checking again all those positive comments about the game is, those are NOT about the game ITSELF, but the "vibes" of it. So basically it's all mental masturbation (?).kek KEKabsolutely basedfans of this assblasted(I didn't play enough of this series to confirm either way)
>>737012130>textwall after textwallI don't think RPGs are for you, OP, but that's okay. There's plenty of other post-apocalyptic games out there that you will find much more enjoyable.
The rpg mechanics are superior but I hate the overworld The best part of modern Fallout is the looting in 3D space. 3 immediately has fun, notable locations for looting like a school or supermarket. NV literally just has Vegas and its barely anything. The rest is shantytown shacks
>>737012923are you retarded? there is literally a school to loot in the very first town in NV>>737012130OP is a retarded faggot. Sad!
>>737012209>better quests>>737012923>The rpg mechanics are superiorwrong both of youp.s. kill RapeApe for breaking images on an image board
>>737012286I also played F3, not a big fan either>unskippable beginning is pretty annoying (Bethesda must learn tutorials should be optional) >the constant interruption of upgrade skills 'cuz new level >Enclave is not playable >green filter gives headaches (I know, more mods)>textwall after textwall + chore simulator just like NV>>737012827Actually I get both games because I like RPGs, I love Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim, I love reading the parchments and stories of those worlds.At first, I thought it maybe because I prefer fantasy aesthetics over retro-futurism, because I can't stand the dialogues and screen-like texts of NV and FO3, BUT I have no problem with FO1 and FO2 texts and dialogues. So, I don't know what is wrong with me. I get both, NV and FO3, 3 years ago, I tried to finish both many times, yet I can't, and everytime I tried to reinstall them, I remember the previous attempts and I get an intense burnout sensation. And I don't know how to fix it.
>>737012130Nah, you're not alone. NV is boring as fuck 80% of the time. No idea why normalfags latched onto it
>>737012130It is undoubtedly a very ugly game that looks a bit like a mod to oblivion in a way that 3 didn't. I usually don't see any point in remakes, but this is one where it could really be enhanced by some more appealing graphics. It's also kind of a linear game at the start that doesn't feel like it has a great momentum or story goal pushing you forward until you reach Vegas on the first playthrough with some really annoying enemy encounters at the start like the flying poison bugs. Once the game really gets going and you're familiar with the factions it's 10/10 though, and on replays the first section play pretty well.
everything after fall out 2 is shallow dogshit.FO3 and New vegas are trash 4 is trash but the shooting was good thats it.
>>737012130funny time to post thisi am currently replaying it for the 100th timeyesterday finished a guns ncr runnow doing energy mr house run
>>737013826Neck yourself
>>737013826Please neck yourself you autistic shit.
>>737013781>I usually don't see any point in remakes, but this is one where it could really be enhanced by some more appealing graphics.Plus all the mechanics, fixes, improvements and lore expansions made by fans, but without the need of installing +1,000 mods.>Once the game really gets going and you're familiar with the factions it's 10/10 though, and on replays the first section play pretty well. Man, I tried each of the 4 paths, I felt bored in all, I couldn't finish any of them, despite I tried to replay them numerous times.
>>737012130>>737013551Just sounds like a you problem, eat shit OP.
>>737012130what hidden cache of games are you playing where you can take as many routes in the main quest that interplay with the factions of the world as this? The dlcs being separate stories doesn't negate the main quest being very reactive to your choices. The quest design also makes it so you can solve many quests in multiple ways unlike shit like bioware games or any elder scrolls. I dare you to list these games that do it better, but you won't, because you're full of shit. Good bait/10.
>>737013759I currently searching in YT "NV is bad", any video that has this title or miniature is just for ragebait, the ytber ends praising the game despite "how dated it is" and blames himself for not playing it before.The video I just finished right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIut_1VgiQIt's literally what I wrote in OP:>all those positive comments about the game is, those are NOT about the game ITSELF, but the "vibes" of it. So basically it's all mental masturbation (?).He comments some downsides, but only for 1 min, the rest of the video is praising the game.
>>737013057>are you retarded? there is literally a school to loot in the very first town in NVhe specifically wants a dedicated treasure chest full of caps and weapons and shelves full of crap to loot because he has ADHD
>>737012130I don't know bro most of the things you mentioned are kind of mechanical shit, which other older games like that suffer from. Yet, I also could not enjoy the game, even though I loved Fallout 3.
>>737012827>RPGs aren't for people who like to write lots of wordsUnironicaly what they fuck did he mean by this?
>>737012130Yup, you are the only one. Congratulations
>>737013883no>>737013930ok since you asked politely but ill do it after my 20th dragon age origins playthrough
>>737014382Got it. >>737014038Stalker maybe (Idk, I don't play that franchise, but sounds similar to FO in terms of post-apocalyptic survival with good lore, factions and dlcs, despite being from different genres).Also, I don't try to do any bait, I love the atmosphere of NV, that's why I'm pissed off, because I can't enjoy the game and I would want to.
>>737014010>>737013826BASED. I just started a modded playthrough where my guy starts in old world blues and right away is a decked out cyborg... game is really hard but it fits because my guy is really inexperienced but super borged out.
>>737012130The game is about absorbing the vibes of "what could have been"-America, the philosophy of war and society, and feeling smart about yourself. Have you felt smart about yourself when you played Fallout: New Vegas? Then you played right.
>>737012130lots of people don't like it. not everyone has to like the same things and not every game needs to appeal to everyone. in fact, games that do try to appeal to everyone are often boring, shallow, and sterile.there's nothing wrong with not liking well-liked stuff, it just means you have different preferences.
>>737012130>chore simulatorWhat?>textwall after textwallWhat?>loading screen after loading screenUninstall the game from your microwave and play it on a computer.>plus the slow walkWhat? Use the run function.>ugly filterIf you say so.>open empty worldFactually wrong.>(very) fake survival vibesWhatever the ambiguous fuck that means.>PLUS ugly and confusing pipboy's maps and menusYou're really reaching, kid. And if you seriously managed to get "confused" with NV's extremely simple map... Jesus.>the factions that are actually cool (The Kings, Great Khans) are not playableIn what way are the Kings "not playable?" You do missions for them and they let you join and wear their gear. There's also plenty of Khans content (though I slaughter them every playthrough because fuck those whiny hypocrites).>the main factions consider you an ally at best, NOT a full memberThis is supposed to be a meaningful complaint about the game? Seriously?>after finishing the main quest and start the dlcs, your actions matter 0, Mojave still shitty and uglyWhat a worthless post. No game is for everyone, but this is just ridiculous.
>>737012130>the main factions consider you an ally at best, NOT a full memberYou wouldn't wanna be in the Legion as it stands, everyone is a slave to Caesar. But it is extremely likely that Caesar is grooming you to become his heir. Mr. House considers you his right hand man by the end of the game.
>>737014635Mod list?
>>737012130Loved FO3 and of course got NV at launch. For some reason it didn't click the same way. Maybe I was burned out, but I didn't have nearly the same amount of fun with this one.
>>737014748>Have you felt smart about yourself when you played Fallout: New Vegas?No.>>737014923Got it, but as I said in >>737014547 >I love the atmosphere of NV, that's why I'm pissed off, because I can't enjoy the game and I would want to.>>737015196Mr. House is my favorite leader, next is Caesar Marsson.
>>737012130Filtered, go play Fortnite.
>>737015389No, I never played it and I will never going to play it.
I have 2 problems with New Vegas. One, that outside the DLCs, it's piss easy. Even on very hard with survival mode, there's no real challenge in the Mojave, especially if you actually invest in Speech, which becomes an automatic "I win" button.The other is that the Hoover Dam battle hits like a wet fart, especially if you actually did the DLCs beforehand. The whole game builds up to it and it's just nothing.
>>737012130New Vegas is a great game if your favourite colour is brown and nothing else.
>>737015265here's the view list. I am using ttw (mainly because I wanna wreck havoc in the capital wasteland late game) but everything will work without it. the main mods for the cyborg are jam (just mods) for bullet time slow-mo and another mod to set my jumping speed to something crazy, I forget the name, but it's in here somewhere.https://pastes.io/w12JPLKE
>>737015730>have all dlcs >starts new game >spammed with every single notification of the dlcs (missions, items, etc) >same annoying thing in FO3This could be fix for the (possible) remaster/remake.
I liked it. The open world is fun with lots of different things to explore, side quests to stumble upon. Tons of viable playstyles and build varieties, making multiple playthroughs more fun, on top of the different options you have for completing the main quest. The writing is good, characters and companions are enjoyable, and of course, those you don't like, you can just kill off, which is always satisfying. Most importantly, the story doesn't really shoe-horn in someone else's plot the way F3 and F4 do, leaving more space for you to roleplay your own "story" via gameplay choices. I don't just mean becoming a murder-hobo, either. I'm talking "Dr. Insano Does Ancient Rome" type shit.The DLC is good too.
>>737015893>dad looks excitedhot
>>737015930*mod list Not view list. Fucking phone posting is aids. Oh and alternate start for starting in old world blues right away
>>737016006And even with lonesome road, you can headcanon Ulysses being batshit insane if you're rping your character not being a courier prior to the story
>>737013551>textwall after textwall + chore simulator>I love Morrowind???
>>737015930Thanks, anon.Why Steam has no workshop for NV yet?>>737015893When and why appeared this meme around this game?
>>737013551I wonder what's not clicking with you, because you named 3 games you like with significantly more textwalls and more chore simulation. Does the overarching story just not interest you?Gameplay just doesn't click?What expectations do you have that aren't being met?
>>737016006OP here, good for you anon, I wish I could enjoy like you.I think I will try Fallout: Dust.
I want to keep shitposting but this website can't stop taking a shit today, what the fuck is going on with it?
>>737016145>Why Steam has no workshop for NV yetBethesda controls the steam page for new vegas so they have full control
>>737016103Weirdly, I think Morrowind has a lot of the same appeal as NV from an RPG perspective, but obviously that gets cancelled out if you're one of those people who's allergic to Obsidian writing.
>>737016103>>737016173Idk why, anons, I have been asking this question to myself for 3 years now.I think is a combination of many things>combat is meh (sometimes is truly annoying)>annoying characters >all is ugly and shitty (for me aesthetics are very important)>the FOMO of doing some quests, but those quests cancel others (also I like to kill characters 2Fast2Soon) >annoying menu >the world doesn't feel alive (I think this one is key)Perhaps I expected too much and I got too hyped hearing the stories of people that enjoy the game, and I when I played it I felt so disappointed that I can't enjoy it.
>>737016301Man, Bethesda can't stop being pieces of shit for one second.
>>737012130I'm not quite sure what you mean by chore simulator, Sunny Smiles tutorial is the closest thing I can think of and that lets you tap out early and explicitly says [END TUTORIAL]The named quests avoid the "Go to X place, kill all monsters, come back" which is weird because you like Skyrim and most of those quests are "Go to draugr tomb, kill draugrs, go to cave, kill cave dwelling villains"The game doesn't textwall you much at all, there's a lot of dialogue but it never "goes on" too long.Loading screens, yeah, there's a lot, but that's a problem with that generation, I know you already mentioned "Mods" but mods help you use more than 2GB of ram and remove a bunch of loading zones so it's consistent. The Strip is a travesty for being segmented so hard.Pipboy aesthetics is fair enough, local maps are awful if there's more than one floor, but it's functional.People complain about the game's exploration not being great, but, the game is really small, you can very quickly trek across the whole thing and dive in every cave, quite quickly, and most caves and "dungeons" are pretty short, on the upside, it's not padded out and excessive, but I do wish there was more.You can join the Kings and do a few quests for the Khans and determine their endings.The factions considering you an ally and not a full member is honestly for the best. the NCR is a professional military and you're not conscripted, you're a mercenary, they're not going to treat you like an enlisted soldier. Legion is a bit more welcoming, but you're still a free agent to them. It makes more sense than doing two things and suddenly being a faction leader. Main quest doesn't have a post game, legit complaint but it's due to time constraints. DLCs are not in the mojave. Lonesome Road can majorly impact the Mojave. Dead Money can END the Mojave. People like it because despite being narrow, it has a lot of interconnected depth in all the missions and lots of freedom to do them.
>>737016293OP here, I read yesterday, from another anon, that admins had implemented some retarded shit (Idk if it's true) and for days 4chan has been running like shit.
>>737016145>When and why appeared this meme around this game?You ever meet a person so autistic and utterly brainwashed by consumerist dogshit that they work themselves into a schizophrenic frenzy to defend a company and the shit it makes to the point they will start hating a game they have never played because it’s preferred over the games the company they worship makes? It’s that Bethesdafags are the literal version of tendies.
>>737016457>>the FOMO of doing some quests, but those quests cancel others (also I like to kill characters 2Fast2Soon)You have to live with your consequences if you're going to do things. You're not gonna gun down someone for Quest A and expect the dead to give you Quest B. That's a perk of the game, there's only 1 essential character (Aside from children) and so you gotta deal with having the power to just kill people. You can't work against A and expect them to welcome you to work against B freely.Do "I Fought the Law" before Ghost Town Gunfight if you want to get more meat out of the Powder GangersI think the world feels decently alive, there's lots of farms, lots of people gathering around water and/or resources that are valuable, caravans and traders moving around, etc. I do wish that where people lived was more cleaned up, it's a holdout from 3 that it's still so "Wasteland" and broken down, as of 2 people were making new structures and cleaning up their towns, 3 decided to make it like 15 years after the bombs, NV reusing those assets made it still too apocalyptic for my taste, but, otherwise, areas make sense, farms, water, defenses, resources, etc, and you can even flip areas for major factions, or shut them down permanently. Depending on what quests you do, reputation you have, perks and skills, areas visited, etc, you get more options for quests, even really early quests get more options, meaning going out of "order" opens up more ways to tackle problems. It's shockingly very complex in the weirdest ways, and I think that's what people like, I just recently replayed it a bunch and I was still finding new things.
>>737016551Thanks for taking the time to read my greentext and write the answer, anon.I know this game is dated, so loading screens and maps are not the worst part in my critic.I think (as I said to another anon) I just was too hyped for this game (specially the faction system and quests), and the disappointment kill the fun of playing it. While I'm writing this, I have the game right in front of my eyes and I get tired by just think in keep playing it. Unironically, playing it feels like doing homework (and I hated it back then).>Lonesome Road can majorly impact the Mojave. Dead Money can END the Mojave.Can you elaborate it? I want to do the main quest first, but reading this, perhaps I do the dlcs first and see how much can affect The Mojave.
>>737016746I think there's actually something there for you to enjoy if you approach it right, but I think you could use a few mods to just fix the pipboy and remove some of the loading gates (because we have computers that use more than 2GB ram now) and maybe some graphics overhauls (Or at least tone down/remove the filters), I can recommend a few if you'd want. Try getting weird with it, go different ways, do different quests, come back to some later, try different skills or perks. I think you gotta just break free of the starting rut, how far have you gotten in your runs?The ending of Lonesome RoadCan open two new areas on the edges of the map, you get to pick one, the other, both, or neither, and severely damages one or both of the major parties warring for the DamDead MoneyOne of the endings for Dead Money just ends the game as it induces the apocalypse. That's it. Roll credits. You can't play the post game, but it is a secret way to end the game.
>>737016734Thanks a lot, anon. I get that my decisions have consequences, but would be cool that you could be an agent of Chaos and make The Mojave starts another big war while you are the script-writer in the shadows.As I said in OP>"cool post-apocalyptic survival action-rpg with politics, aka your actions not only matter, but also shape how civilization evolves in The Mojave"You would expect that your actions and schemes make factions mobilized more men and resources, and by the end of the game see more battles and settlements changing flags every few days.Sometimes I feel like NV is the CK2 (Crusader Kings 2) of Fallout, all those cool stories and AAR (After Action Reports) that you read ONLY happen in the player mind while the gameplay is meh at best.>checking again all those positive comments about the game is, those are NOT about the game ITSELF, but the "vibes" of it. So basically it's all mental masturbation (?).Also, it REALLY annoys me how if you kill someone or still something, you lose karma or you get bad reputation with the faction of dude you killed. It makes no sense, nobody saw you.>>737016686We truly live in strange times.
>>737012286SAAAR
>>737017038He's right. Fallout 3 is good. NV is normieslop
>>737012130no there's a lot of people who dislike the open world action rpg formula. shit is made for consolefags
>>737012130>textwallstopped reading here, maybe you should try something more along your lineslike basketball 2024 or something, i'm sure you'll enjoy that
>>737017016>make The Mojave starts another big war while you are the script-writer in the shadows.You want the Yes Man Independent ending, you get to pick and choose and create problems and do whatever you want. You can obliterate an area and have Legion take it, you can dump nuclear waste on an area and kill everyone there, you can help a crime family terrorize the Strip, you can do lots of things, but a fair amount comes to fruition in the final battle at the dam, though there's still a decent amount during the game too.
>>737016173he's just shit posting, dude has no ground to stand on after saying he likes oblivion and morrowind, one of which is extremely text heavy and full of basic bitch chores
>>737012130>post apocalypticYou need to learn that the appeal of fallout has and always will be what happens once the post apocalypse is over and done with and how humanity rapidly rebuilds and rebounds.
>>737017016see>>737015005
>>737012130That's a good thing. That means you don't have to start HRT and chop off body parts like the people who do enjoy it.
>>737016985>Dead MoneyGot it, sad you can't see what you have done.>Lonesome RoadHow changes The Mojave and the main quest?About the mods, for what I heard (confuse install or something bugged with the mod itself), that also feels like homework. Not as simple as if you did it with Steam Workshop.Which mods do you recommend, any link?>>737017297I still don't understand what is the point of Yes-Man, why is he against Mr. House? I mean, once you kill Benny, by his own logic Yes-Man would see Mr. House is the best option. I hate you can combine endings, Yes-Man x Mr. House would be awesome.(I read there is a theory about Yes-Man having / being itself a copy of Mr. House, so in the end the House always wins.) Can you elaborate in the chaotic path of the Yes-Man? Sounds cool. BUT still doesn't give the:>your actions and schemes make factions mobilized more men and resources, and by the end of the game see more battles and settlements changing flags every few days.>see more battles and settlements changing flags every few days.>>737017497>be me>unleash apocalypse in FO3 by nuking Megaton, destroying my treacherous refuge and finishing what The Enclave started>FNV, do the most evil actions possibleIn conclusion: make post-apocalyptic in just apocalyptic, again.
Bethesda RPGs aren’t very good
>>737012130You should play a block game. Once you can figure out which blocks go in the correct holes you might be ready to play videogames a bit.
>>737012130> Affects how the wasteland develops.All your choices change is what cutscenes play at the end. They never matter in game.
>>737012130>So basically it's all mental masturbation (?).is everything ok OP where's your daughter?
>>737012130>Am I the only know that can't enjoy it?You pretty much need mods to tolerate the experience. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.
>>737018127Use nexus mod manager (Or I think it's called Vortex now), it'll handle everything.s6s perks + vegas elysiumafterglowtammers vendors weapons and armourplatinum, cowboy and imperium radioeconomy overhaul + harder barter faster strongerwild wasteland foreversave managertitans of the new westYukichigai Unofficial PatchNo Ambient Crowd NoiseDistance Gunfire Sound FixMusic RecoveryImproved LOD Noise TextureHigh Detail LOD for Mojave (if you don't do your own LOD generation)Primm Reputation RestoredLong 15 Dry Wells (Two mods, there's locations also named this)For textures, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/95649This has a big list of dependencies and is "Homework" and I apologize, but if you don't like the textures, you gotta deal with it. Also Yes Man doesn't just default to "The big guy", he defaults to whoever asks him to do things. He's a yes man. He doesn't have a will, he's your tool to take over and take House's place.
>>737018686Oh and Simple Open Strip.Use NVSE, and any dependencies.In my opinion the Classic Adobe Buildings in Mojave is a really nice addition to show the NCR improving on and expanding into the Mojave.
>>737018127>I still don't understand what is the point of Yes-Man, why is he against Mr. House?Okay, is OP genuinely fucking retarded or has he just never played the game and is trolling? Go back to playing Fortnite faggot.
>>737018686>>737018732>those are a lot of mods, a lotThanks, anon.>he defaults to whoever asks him to do things.Excuse me, I expressed myself bad, I mean, if it would have been could if you want Mr. House to win, that Yes-Man helps you. Since, in-game, by his own logic it would make sense.What is NVSE? >>737018571I think you are right, anon,>have mods to expanse the already vanilla masterpiece: no; >have mods to fix the vanilla: YES.The absolute state of current gaming.>>737018449I realised that too late, until this thread, I thought that after finishing the game you could see actual changes in The Mojave, it would have been a nice touch.
>>737016457Literally all those things apply to Morrowind.I think your problem is that you're just a contrarian retard and since NV is more mainstream, you can't allow yourself to enjoy it. It's as simple as that. Morrowind not only shares the problems you mentioned, but has them MUCH, MUCH worse. The quests are mind-numbingly boring, the combat might as well not exist, and the overworld is ugly as fuck and uninteresting to explore. It's 10x worse in those things than most other Beth games.Mind you, I think Bethesda games all suck fat fucking ass, but you are clearly just being a contrarian.
>>737018852>if it would have been could if you want Mr. House to win, that Yes-Man helps you.Holy shit play the fucking game you fucking retard. Anything that Yes Man could do House could do better. He's just a Securitron you nigger, why the fuck do you need his help?
>>737012130>muh wall of textt. brownt. low iqt. can't readt. ADHDt. low attention span
>>chore simulator + textwall after textwallfeels like a low IQ complaint to me.
