I don't get it
What does pretender even do ?
blue: damage decreasered: damage increase
>>737013291Fakes it til he makes it
>>737013195Where's the Terminator 2?
>>737013195so assassin is just a shit class? it's weak to pretender and alterego and doesn't have any upsides to make up for it
>>737013195but Saber never loses
>>737013195>MoonCancer unit has increased damage against your Marvel's Avengers unitwords uttered by the clinically insane
>>737013601Nope. Alter egos are strong against Riders, assassins and casters, and weak against saber archers and lancers. Pretenders are the opposite.
>>737013291Kill three nights and alter egos
>>737013195>CHADZERKERS just bonk 90% of the classesAbsolutely based
>>737013291Play the game of pretend with the World itself
>>737013195You think that's confusing, try figuring out the unit counters matrix of Empire Earth.For the first few eras you have the fairly simple and intuitive sequence of archers > spears > shields > archers, but then as soon as gunpowder is invented it becomes a confusing clusterfuck of utter nonsense.God help you if you make it to the future eras where there are like 6 different robots and each one is considered its own unit type in the rock-paper-scissors matrix.
I suddenly want to see what pokemon type-matchups look like without the neat row/column chart.
>>737019027bad
>>737013195>berserker is strong and weak to basically everythingbased actually
>>737013291Keeps you in the dark.
>>737015864>gun infantry is good against gun cavalryIs this true in real life? I guess gunners on horses must have much worse accuracy?
>>737013195what even is pretender/alterego/foreigner why does shield just exist outside of everything else?
>>737013291Literally someone serving the role of a perceived identity, but still capable of enacting their own agenda that can be contrary to the facade identity.
>mooncancerlolwut? I really need to go back and read/watch/play all the Fate content at some point.
>>737020160Special class just for Sakura unironically.
>>737019489Dragoons were mainly used for harassment, because in a straight up head-to-head combat with regular infantry they'd get whooped. Plus it was easier to shoot and reload when you're on foot. That's why American dragoons during the Civil War for example almost always fought dismounted
>>737020273Ah okay. What story is that from, if you don't mind me asking? If it's FGO only I can't bring myself to care, I really don't consider gachaslop to be canon at all and I don't care what the creator says.
>>737020273Mostly her but there's also a fatass, curry loving fatass, and neco-arc-but-not-a-neko
>>737020382Fate/Extra CCC.
>>737013195>swords beat spears Fuck off Fate
>>737020473Oh, damn I'll have to care lol
>>737013291keeps brass in pocket
>>737020625Not quite, Saber beats Lancer, and sometimes Saber uses spears. That's like saying an Archer can't use swords.
>>737013195What class would your favorite character be?
>>737013195In the actual lore of Fate, people/Servants are summoned into one of seven(+) stereotypes/aspects of themselves.The Sabre class is considered the strongest in the world of Fate/Extra because battles in the setting are 1-on-1 tournaments.Class advantage was introduced to try and force players of the Fate/Grand Order gacha to buy characters that are effective against different enemies (artificial difficulty). Nasu rationalizes these rules as>Sabres are better at close-range than Lancers>Lancers have the reach to hit Archers (can also toss the lance)>Archers can stay away from a distance and snipe Sabresthink of the following as a classic kingdom court>Assassins are known for killing Riders (catch-all class for nerfing famous rulers, but also serves for people famous for riding animals)>Casters can sus out Assassins>Riders rule over CastersThe first block of Extra classes is based around added content to the main stories of Fate. They all serve as the "final boss" of their respective stories and were chosen to oversee the Holy Grail Wars of their respective series.>Rulers (not to be confused with kingship) chosen for their fairness are beaten by Avengers who care for nothing and want to destroy everything>Avengers are treated as rogue elements to be eliminated by Moon Cancer>Moon Cancer (overseers of AI & servant records) are subject to the RulersFGO then introduces it's own new classes to introduce plot twists.>Pretenders have the abilities of who they are thought to be, plus their own; this defeats Alteregos>Alteregos are refined aspects of someone's character (often a new Servant created from a pre-existing Servant), so they're exempt from Foreigner's status>Foreigners are from the edge of the universe ("possessed" artists, space probes, joke characters)Berserkers are so berserk they can damage anyone in the War (except the Foreigners who exist outside of it)Shielder (Mash) is a re-used character concept from the original FSN.
>>737021581I can try to rationalize the grouped class advantages as>Alter Egos (madness) overtaking the Cavalry>Pretenders causing strife & war among the Knights
>>737013601Those two arrows aren't pointing to Assassin in particular, but to the entire square.
>start playing game>want berserker oda nobunaga>check when its next likely to come back>2 years after JP banners>JP banner was in august 2024>tfw 4 months until it comes to globalit's all so tiresome. i could probably beat the main story in that time, and i dont care to play beyond that.
>>737013291Someone who has adopted a name that wasn't originally their own, but mantled it so thoroughly that the world said "fuck it, that's your name now, enjoy".In accordance with modern lore both Benkei and Kojirou should be Pretenders but it's way too late in the game for that.
>>737013291Absolutely nothing.
>>737019375>deals 1.5x dmg to all>takes 2x dmg from all>doesn't have extra hp to make up for it>somehow still fights vs multiple servants in every fate anime
>>737015864How exactly do anti tanks work such that they counter tanks?
>>737019405kek
>>737020953I like Shadow the Hedgehog and I think he'd be a foreigner since he's part alien
>>737013291What if I say they're not like the others
>>737013195Ruler seems to be the best? Only 2 weaknesses and resists half the classes in the game
>>737015864Most of this seems fairly obvious if you understand the role these units play, but why would halberdiers counter gun cavalry?
>>737013195All you need is your wife anyway
>>737022608Herc is one of the best units in the game, especially with his Bond CE that gives him 6 lives.
Archer(Saber(Caster(Pretender))) > ORT
>>737013195GREAT question! In short, Saber is my wife.
>>737021897>>737013601Incidentally, Assassin does get a .8 damage modifier put onto the damage value because fuck you.
>>737024075Based
>>737013195That's not even including the Beasts and their silly bullshit.>>737019710>PretenderBasically stole the credentials and abilities of someone else and pretending to be them.>Alter EgoBasically a small piece of someone realized as a full person.>ForeignerControlled Opposition deliberately influenced by outside forces.>ShielderSpecial Snowflake class that's on your Starter mon in FGO and has some plot relevance.The real mess is Moon Cancer due years of being a joke class before suddenly trying to make a it like three serious things at once. "Non-Human Friend of Humanity"/"Decider of Ends"/"Omake Bonus page at the back of a book."/"HFY Incarnate, but it's a bad thing." But it honestly best to just see it as >>737020273 and just not ask.
>>737021581Mooncancer and Alter Ego debuted in CCC. The FGO originals are Foreigner and Pretender because even Shielder was unused stuff from F/SN.
>>737020625Class =/= WeaponNot all sabers use swords, not all lancers use spears.
>>737020953Either Avenger or Alter Ego.
>>737020953Foreigner
