>Genre is called Metroidvania>has basically nothing to do with classic Castlevania tropes and is almost entirely defined by classic Metroid tropes>the first few Castlevania games aren't even a part of this genre>the first Castlevania game that was a part of this genre came out a whole console generation after Super Metroid and didn't add anything new to the genre that wasn't already in Super MetroidThe genre should just be called Metroidlikes. There's nothing inherently Castlevania about it.
and yet 9/10 of them aren't good metroid clones either. Curious.
Ackchualley It's composed of Metroid and Igavania
>>737015639Most Metroidvanias have some kind of equipment management.Metroid doesn't have that, that's Castlevania (SoTN), same with all the light RPG elements and secondary quests they sometimes have.
Numbers going up means RPG elements, which Metroid alone does not have
>>737015639I've been saying this for the last 10 years. Thank you.
>>737015639the genre being called metroidvania is entirely because stupid people saw other people using that term specifically for castlevanias with metroid world design and the stupid people misused it enough for it to become the norm.
The entire genre sucks ass and the only reason they're popular is that they're easy indie games to make.
>>737015639Castlevania is some gay sidescroller.Metroidvania is gay sidescrollers.I DON't care about autistic details. beyond this. You scroll a screen to the side in 2d. You do in both so ig it is Castlevania.
>>737015639Metroidlikes doesn't fit either, since, not counting remakes, half of the titles released under the Metroid banner don't even play like Metroid games. Depending on how strict you are about it it may be even less than half.Dread was the only other proper Metroid game released since 2004.Search action fits better.>>737015770Super Metroid already had equipment management.>>737016039They require some actual thought put into them to be compelling.
>>737015639>genre is metroidvania>its all depression indie slop that focuses on backtracking to pad game time and retarded mental illness story instead of actual gameplay
>>737015639Literally Castlevania 2.
>>737016571Name 3
>>737016438>Super Metroid already had equipment management.I don't consider switching laser/weapons equipment management, even Doom was able of that much.
>>737015639Okay. I still like them and also Metroid and Castlevania. If you don’t like them, it’s fine. Words is words.
>>737015639Bingo.
>>737015639I will play any Metroid ripoff, Hollow Knight clones need not apply
>>737015639Correct. Welcome to the club.
>>737016036This. Just like the term snowflake originally meant someone that was "unique like a snowflake"(ie demi-gender polysexual otherkin with headmates) but misused so much by retarded facebook boomers who thought it meant fragile.
Most Metroidvanias feature short-ranged melee combat and heavier emphasis on said combat alongside grinding with stuff like item drops and optional quests which fall much more in line with Castlevania than with Metroid.
They are all just platformers.
>>737017927Why can't they just be called exploration platformers?
>>737017740false. It's because the fragile kids kept calling themselves snowflakes that other started calling them that ironically since it became associated with being a pussy. Same with the word woke and many others
>>737015770Then thats castlevania's spin on the genre that was started by metroid. Adding inventory and rpg elements to the metroid frame work isnt really all that groundbreaking. Most genres eventually have rpg elements shoehorned in.
>>737015639Sorry, "metroidlike" is already in use for all the games that combine the defining features of the Metro 2033 series and id Software games.
>>737015639>midtroons still malding at Castlevaniakek the genre should be called SotN-likes, midtroid is a parasite riding Castlevania's cultural influence. Outside of Axiom Verge most indie metroidvanias are SotN-like not midtroid clones.>>737018068We can just call midtroid clones midtroon-esque and everyone would know what we mean.
>>737015639"Metroidvania" is a shortened form of "Metroid-like Castlevania" though. Then some 20 years ago retards started using it to refer to any exploration action game.
>>737015639Everything people say Symphony of the Night brought to the genre, was already there in games by falcom and westone.Such as Faxanadu, Ys 3, and the Monsterworld/Wonderboy games (Particularly Wonderboy 3, which SOTN ripped off almost as much as it ripped off Metroid).
>>737018059No argument there, everyone knows Castlevania SoTN (which is the main donor of the "Vania" part of Metroidvania) was heavily inspired by Metroid, rather than previous Castlevania entries (maybe you could argue for Simon's Quest, but that's a weird beast that has more in common with Zelda 2 rather than any other Castlevania)
