How did Mengsk know Kerrigan would enter his stateroom so he could have a conveniently placed anti-Kerrigan device installed in the center of the room?!Kerrigan says to Mengsk, "You could never suffer enough for all the lives you've destroyed." How can she say that as being the Queen of Blades she killed millions, perhaps even billions of humans while laughing about it?!
>>737016605Because SC2 story is ass. I do not even think the writers played the original.
>>737016605>killed millionsit's certainly Billions. Also dont care what troons, niggers and jews consider as a canon. SC2 never happened.
>>737016605Fanfic tier writing.
>>737016605I honestly don't remember much from the campaignAll I remember from Starcraft II was playing against protoss and losing to retarded shitT>Z>>>P
>>737018495>Drops dark Templar into your base while occupying you with a straight up fight Problem?
>>737016605Because SCII's story is just HORRIBLE to such a degree that I don't even want to think it exists along with the number of idiotic retcons and alterations.
>>737016605>How did Mengsk know Kerrigan would enter his stateroom so he could have a conveniently placed anti-Kerrigan device installed in the center of the room?!Because she was looking for him? He knew that Kerrigan was after him, so he went into his office where he had his "anti-Kerrigan device" installed. The real question is, why did Kerrigan just stand there and let the anti-Kerrigan device slowly rise up from the floor? If she just immediately went after him, it would have all been over>Kerrigan says to Mengsk, "You could never suffer enough for all the lives you've destroyed." How can she say that as being the Queen of Blades she killed millions, perhaps even billions of humans while laughing about it?!Because Kerrigan blames Mengsk for abandoning her to the Zerg and turning her into the Queen of Blades in the first place. She doesn't accept any responsibility for her own actions as the Queen of Blades. And to be fair, that was a reasonable position to have back in the Brood War days where she seemed like a completely different character before and after her infestation. It really did seem like her mind had been corrupted and she no longer had control. But like many things, SC2 retconed and ruined that by giving her more agency and showing that even in her infested state, she can be a normal human being when she wants to be (like when she's around Raynor).
>>737018901>>737018495>>737018309>>737018238>>737017629love you, frens. Thank god there's people out there that get this. I was beginning to think I was the problem. So many people out there claiming the SC2 story is a masterpiece.
>>737018984yeah the flip flopping between "she is technically cured and totally free of external influence" and "but she still isn't doin nuffin wrong" was awful
>>737018984It was a gamble sure, but she could have easily had her entire swarm search for him and bring him to her alive. She had no way to possibly know he would remain in his stateroom the whole time. It was all way too convenient for my tastes.To your other point: fair enough.
>>737016605I really hate what they did in Brood War even. The SC1 story was perfect. Hey we're the Terans and we do some awful shit.Hey we're the Zerg we try to eat everyone.Hey we're the Protoss our age old fued with the god and Zerg finally ended we we slew the Overmind. Hook, like sinker. The entire Earth comes to Invade storyline in Broodwar was ass. The entire Samir Duran setup was ass. The entire Zerg civil war was ass.The entire Earth Directorate Controls the Zerg was absolutely retarded and totally ruined the Zerg as a faction. Brood war was basically what Star Trek Voyager did to the Borg. Made them pushover chumps. Not the terrifying unstoppable mammoth thats going to conquer all of existence. The Zerg killed the XelNaga originally they were supposed to be God tier, Overmind casually opened up Wormholes and migrated an entire worlds worth of Zerg something not even the Protos can do.So if you ask me the story was already casual and lame by Brood war.SC2 just added more of that absolute crap.
>>737016605>>737019368SC2's story is a complete dumpster fire that shits all over Brood War. I don't want to say too much if you're just playing through it for the first time and you're only at the end of HotS, but just wait until you see how it all wraps up at the end of Legacy of the Void. You haven't even seen peak retard yet. Wait until you get to the end of that game. And then you realize that SC3 never happened and probably never will happen, so the end of LotV may just be the end of the Starcraft story forever. Shit sucks
>>737019493I do actually agree that Brood War wasn't that great. Hell, SC1 wasn't anything special either. However, both those stories were somewhat sincere and grounded in reality. The story was about the factions just as much as it was the characters. In SC2 the factions are really nothing at all in the story, and it's arguably all about Kerrigan's redemption from evil brood queen to female Jesus who dindu nuffin.>>737019501I don't own LotV but I've watched the compilation cutscenes of the entire SC2 campaigns, so I know Kerrigan becomes Jesus that ascends and kills Aemon or whatever in probably one of the gayest cutscenes I've ever seen. The whole ending seems something straight out of modern Warcraft. It's all very safe, pastel-colored, cliche, absolute no effort garbage I've seen in a long time.
>>737019493This, people kinda forget just how bad Brood War's campaign actually was.
>>737019493BW's story was especially retarded with the whole>I am gud now uwu>did you hear guys? kerrigan says she's gud now we can totally trust her>oki>haha I has betrayed you>oh nyo what a surprise!People really forget how awful the story is originally. Sc2 just build upon it.
>>737019782nah. she never portrayed herself as good.more like an ally of convenience
>>737016605The story is a punishment from Blizzard for people who aren't skipping the cutscenes. It's meta commentary on the quality of video game writing.At least that's what I think.
The lead writer on SC2 was Brian Kindregan, who previously wrote only for Mass Effect 2. Story Director was Chris Metzen, who worked on SC1 and Warcraft. In my research I've found that development by committee was in full effect during the SC2 development days, which really explains a lot of why the game (and blizz games since) have felt so shit and bland. There's no clear vision going on when creative control is vested in dozens of people all wanting their own vision.
>>737018984>t really did seem like her mind had been corrupted and she no longer had control.Considering the corruption plots Blizz would go on to write over and over again that may very well have been the intent, but god damn is it a horrible way to do her character. Zero agency, zero accountability, and no character arc whatsoever.It's far more interesting to read her as having been completely in control (aside from enforced loyalty to the Overmind). It also makes sense for a character who has spent her entire life getting swapped from one abusive master to another and finally being left to a fate worse than death to just snap as a result of the experience and decide to just revel in the feeling of power while throwing out all notions of the morality that only ever resulted in her getting shit on.
>>737019947See this is what I'm talking about.Atrocious story, but it's okay when SC1 does it.
>>737016605starcraft peaked with tassadar's sacrifice and it was all downhill from there. i like brood war well enough but even it was a major step down from the original campaign, and starcraft 2 is a fucking joke compared to brood war.
>>737016605IIRC at this point kerrigan de-qob'd herselfIt's not worth worrying about tho. Any decent writing SC2 could have had died with tycus, even if alarak made it seem like there were signs of life
>>737017629>muh zerg were actually dinosaurs
>>737020821>claim something>get told it isn't true>"ohhhhh its ok when SC1 does it????"wtf is wrong with you?she never claimed to be good.just kept pointing people at more threatening enemies and stabbing them in the back before they could turn to take a closer look at her.the overmind, the biggest threat of the original campaign, was spawning a new version of itself, and the protoss and humans needed any bit of help they could get, so she portrayed herself as that help with the very truthful reason of not wanting to be under the new overminds thumb.they demand she give them a powerful source of energy that would give them the ability to wipe out all zerg on this one planet and wipe out one of the biggest remnant zerg groups.worked out great for the protoss and the humans, and wiped out kerrigans competition over the remaining zerg beyond char... but the protoss were a bit weakened by their old split with the dark templars turning into a new civil war.Kerrigan isn't GOOD here, she is simply less of a threat and handed the protoss a powerful weapon to be used against her.then the UED shows up and instantly establishes itself as a threatening 4th or 5th party.from there you act as the UED, who don't know shit about the zerg and get played by kerrigans agent.once more, kerrigan never portrays herself as "good"she just plays a bit more on her ties with raynor and convinces him to rescue mengsk, another human. which is easy to do because the UED barged in and made it clear they expected to be in charge of EVERYTHING because they were the big dicked EARTHling humans.and then the UED manage to enslave the new overmind, which sets the final piece up.The UED, a bunch of arrogant newcomers, have effectively leashed the OLD big bad evil guy of OG starcraft and alienated EVERYONE ELSE.So Kerrigan simply uses that and maneuvers everyone into targeting the biggest antagonist on the board, and eliminated BOTH bit by bit to keep it an even grind to the end.
>>737016605>How did Mengsk know Kerrigan would enter his stateroom so he could have a conveniently placed anti-Kerrigan device installed in the center of the room?!Are you retarded, genuinely? Mengsk knew from the get-go Kerrigan was coming for him so of course he'd have some kind of backup plan. There's way better examples of the story being shit than this.
>>737017629FPBP
>>737021081Primal zerg are cool, you're just gay
Not that starcraft will ever get another game again, but I feel like the only way to potentially salvage the setting for a sequel would be to set it far in the future and focus on the UED returning with its full might. Have Earth roll up and turbo mog the Koprulu sector. The chosen firstborn go through an existential crisis where everything promised to them 3,000 years ago is crumbling away. I don't know what the fuck to do with the zerg.And of course Raynor and Kerrigan should never be mentioned. Those awful characters shouldn't even be referenced, fuck em. No xel naga drama either.
>>737021785that feels like it has a lot of potential.>raynor and kerrigan never mentionedeasy enough to do I supposethe old terran factions and the "zerg hive infighting" should be as specific as it gets.have the protoss remember their heroes though.
>>737020821You realize the primary purpose of the campaign is to give you, the player, the opportunity to learn and try out each of the races and to give you the opportunity to play against each of the other races, including mirror matches, right? To that end, the story constantly needs to contrive reasons for you to fight each of the other two races, and give you reasons to have a "civil war" mirror match within your own race. That's the primary purpose of the campaign and the story itself takes a backseat to that objective. Now, that being said, I think SC1/BW does a fucking great job of mixing an interesting story against the backdrop of contriving a bunch of reasons for everyone to fight everyone, including team-ups. And yes, it will often do that through temporary alliances, which inevitably lead to betrayals, and these exact sorts of "temporary alliances of convenience" that you're talking about with Kerrigan and the Protoss in Brood War. Is it perfect? Is it Shakespeare? No. But it's about the best you'll find in all of RTS, and miles ahead of the slop that was SC2's story
>>737021785>Not that starcraft will ever get another game againThere are credible rumors that Blizzard is, once again, trying to make a Starcraft shooter game. Probably NOT Ghost this time. Knowing Blizzard, I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to chase the hero shooter/battle royale/extraction wave. I think we'll get another Starcraft game at some point, but it's VERY clear at this point that it won't be RTS. RTS is dead, and MOBAs killed them.
>>737016605The only way to redeem any of Starcraft 2's story is a retcon where Tychus pulled the trigger.
>>737021687Priamal zerg were just reskinned lizards from stranglethorn vale nigga. Zerg were supposed to be an amalgamation of dozens or hundreds of different species. The concept of an animal consuming another animals "essence" and evolving seconds later with an extra set of eyes or a whole new limb is just fucking dumb.
Why do transexual oldfags hate SC2's story so much?
>>737022062well no, that anon WASN'T talking about alliances of convenience.he claimed that because he is retardedwhat he MEANT and SAID was this retarded fanfiction of zerg kerrigan "being good now"which was never a thing.
>>737022201>There are credible rumors that Blizzard is, once again, trying to make a Starcraft shooter game.Can't wait to play that in 2036.
>Rayner is a simp for genocidal pussy he already swore to killI'm still mad
The only good part of Starcraft 2's story was when the zerg queen took over the Protoss ship that was heading back to the Protoss homeland and was going to build an army for taking over their homeworld when it arrived.
