When did the Sonic franchise stop being good?
>>737026450after the 90s ended
Around the release of Sonic Adventure
Advance 3 was the last good game.
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>>737026450Sonic 1.
>>737026450When you got old
I like it more than Mario as of late
>>737026558Play a real man's SEGA game like Puyo Puyo, VF5, Outrun 2, Daytona USA and Crazy Taxi.
>>737026450Roughly around when SEGA exited the console market and merged with Sammy Corp.So 2004.
>>737026450It was never good. There isn't a single genuinely good game in it.
Sonic 1 - GoodSonic 2 - AmazingSonic 3&K - AmazingSonic CD - AmazingSonic Adventure - GreatSonic Adventure - GreatSonic Heroes - GoodShadow the Hedgehog - Right about here is where the franchise stopped being good
>>737027525>Sonic 1 - Good80% of Sonic 1 is boring and slower than Mario games.
>>737027781Huh, it's almost as if Sonic has always had slower, more intricate platforming sections to break up its autorun speedy sections.Besides that, I still like Sonic 1.
>>737026450When I stopped playing the games.
>>737026450>When did the Sonic franchise stop being good?When they decided to not make Mania 2.
>>737027824Sonic was sold then as the faster alternative to Nintendo, on hardware that allowed for those speedy sections or levels. Though much of sonic is trying to balance keeping that speed and not being bogged down with the slower platforming sections.
>>737026450So far, after Generations came out. SHGen is ripping off Generations and Mania is literally an official fan project. There hasn't been an actual good, japanese made mainline Sonic game in over 10 years. The only good game released related to the franchise recently is a kart racer which shits itself with Ian's retarded writing and inserting comic faggotry into it. So we're still far away...
Is secret rings or black knight any good
>>737027824Nah, it's more like every zone after the first is slow platforming broken up by an occasional speed section(which will often times result in you getting hit.) Sonic games didn't have an established identity until 2.
>>737027889We got a winner.Mania was a good starting point for a new Sonic. Not making Mania 2 was when I realized this franchise was forever doomed to make the same mistakes.Reality: This image sums it up, when they tried to make 2D sections in 3D games but didn't commit to it fully.
>>737027889I'd go further and say when SA1 had to trip the 3D geometry down to racetracks that SA2 forever solidified.
>>737028678Nope. The storybook trilogy is pretty fucking bad.
>>737028678They have decent stories (Black Knight unironically being one of the best in the franchise), but Secret Rings has terrible gameplay which CAN be SOMEWHAT rectified if you grind the shit out of it for the moveset perks, but that is just bad game design so the overall game is bad. Black Knight is much more playable and controllable, and sometimes can even be fun, but it's still an onrails action game that would've been better as a normal game, and I say that liking BK. It's worth giving a shot over SR though at least once.
>>737026450Sonic Adventure was the nail in the coffin. An embarrassing game desu.
>>737026450Sonic's always good, even when it's bad.
Sonic used to mean something.
>>737026450its pretty good now. but the sonic and secret rings/wii era was rough, sonic forces was rough, but theres more good than bad now.
>>737026450it never recovered
>>737030460Per 2016 to now: >Sonic Boom Fire and Ice (bad)>Sonic Mania (good)>Sonic Forces (VERY bad)>Sonic Team Racing (bad)>Sonic Frontiers (VERY bad)>Sonic Superstars (bad) >X Shadow (modern DLC for a decade+ game, so bad)>Sonic Crossworlds (good) We're still stuck in the shit.
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>>737026450It was never good. Sonic has always sucked.
>>737026450That piece of utter shit Colors. It's never truly recovered despite an ok game every now and then.
3D Blast.Sonic CD was bad but at least it was a Sonic game.
This is the moment Sonic singlehandedly died and never recovered. Becoming a sanitized mascot ala Mario was ironically around the same time along with becoming Whedonslop in terms of writing, forever.
>>737031781But the game after that was Forces, right?. That game was trying to be edgy. Yeah, it was garbage but I wouldn't call it sanitized.
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>>737026450Forces. It immediately killed the goodwill from Mania, and you can still feel some of its damage in Frontiers.
>>737027525After having replayed the Genesis Sonic games recently, I just realized these games ain't my thing, despite being a lifelong Sonic fan. I guess I'm gonna settle with the spinoffs like racing games, since I still love Sonic characters and their designs, just don't really enjoy the fast paced platforming like in Sonic gamesI'm more of a Kirby guy
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>>737026450Sonic 3D Blast was the harbinger of doom.
>>737026450It never stopped being good.
>>737031851>Yeah, it was garbage but I wouldn't call it sanitized.Forces was still clearly sanitized and phoned in. It felt like an attempt to try and ape what came before without understanding why anyone liked it. It was just a checklist game which seems to be every Sonic game since Colors except maybe the two Gens games
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>>737026450june of 91
>>737026450After 3 and knuckles.Anything after it was at best, a bad game that happened to have enjoyable aspects.
