Can't we all just get all along and admit both games are awesome for different reasons?
no
>le two cakes
>>737042410Sure I'll let you enjoy your shit if you financially support good games tooWill you?
No, that would imply the demake is awesome.
>>737042458Yes I bought Resident Evil 4 (2023).
>>737042410Yes, RE4R had good marketing and mass appeal and did a good job riding on the original's coattails.
>>737042426fpbp
>>737042458buying RE4 remake helps fund the slop machine come out with more ports of re4 og, so yes? Ports to Quest. Ports to iPhone. Ports to smart watches. Your game has come out more than Skyrim at this point you fucking babby
>>737042554and no one is playing them lol
>>737042494ok but what about the good games?>>737042554I wasn't asking for ports and the fact that you thought otherwise shows how bankrupt your mind is
>>737042542RE9 has the same thing but the game is 7/10
>>737042542Do you think marathon is also good because its positive on steam?
>>737042698do you think marathon is bad because you never played it
>>737042743>never played itI have its called destiny 2
>>737042410no, the remake sucks
>>737042410No cause the remakes and RE7 brought larpniggers who hate everything pre RE7, there were people defending something so objectively bad like Adas new voice even cause muh soggy kneesZoomers are beyond gay
>>737042976>there were people defending something so objectively bad like Adas new voice even cause muh soggy knees>Zoomers are beyond gayYou made that up, I still haven't played 4make and my friends don't like it either. Quit being a dishonest faggot
>>737042458what are those good games in need of support?
why are uncs so mad that we zoomers get to experience the best version of re4?you were stuck with tank controls oldslop, sorry you missed out
>>737042426fpbp, OG will always be better, OP is a fucking faggot.
>>737043196this dude wasn't even alive when the original came out
>>737042410One is a genre defining masterpiece, the other is a modern soulless cashgrab. What's so hard for you retarded zoomers to understand?
>>737042410>Can't we all just get all along and admit both games are awesome for different reasons?Why am I not allowed to say I think the remake sucks without some fags getting offended over it?
>>737042410no, faggot, you have shit taste
>>737042426Based. Remakefags deserve the rope.
>>737043125Quit thinking things didnt happen just cause your ass didnt see it, that whole drama happened during the games release. People just accept her VA is trash now
I haven't played the remake so I can't have a horse in this race. I just know RE4 was a pretty good, if overrated, time.
>>737042410Who the fuck is this nigger? Why the fuck am I suddenly seeing a thread with him in the OP every time I come to this dogshit site?
>>737043428If you think RE4 is overrated you have the most insane standards
>>737043269yeah so what?after experiencing modern games I will literally never go backit's like saying "bro you played gta5 now you must play gta sa too", this is retarded, games are tied to technology and I have a set of standards and features I expect from most gamesnot to mention how the original is not even popular
>>737042629lets see how many players remake 4 has in 20 years. and specifically some version ported to a later platform next decade.
>>737042410fuck capcom and fuck their demakes /thread
>>737043456gangstalkers
>>737043424>Now>NowAnon you're full of shit there wasn't even dlc for the game and people were reporting on it and shitting on her for it. Wasn't she "harassed" for it? To say the whole discourse changed years later is just isn't true
>>737043515>it's like saying "bro you played gta5 now you must play gta sa too"they should
>>737042410All demake troons MUST DIE
This guy needs to take the L and just move onholy fuck
>>737043857there's no L here zoomtroon, he won and doubled down, major W
>>737043474Overrated doesn't mean bad, dipshit. It just means people overstate how legendary the game is. I still enjoy playing it, just not as a "top 5" kind of game (top 20 maybe).
>>737043920What's with RE titles not having the consistency of not having a ranking system after RE2, even RE4OG doesn't have a grade
>>737043857you take the L
>>737042410I think the original is superior in its design and I just don’t like the kind of game the RE remakes are.
>>737043474But it is, the game is good just not Resident Evil good. It's literally the most overrated RE game in the franchise next to RE2OG.
>>737043857You lost though lol try moving on and taking the L
>RE4 remake>RE4 gamecube HAHA NIGGA AINT EVEN PLAYED THE ZEEBO VERSION, ALL BOW DOWN TO THE KING. ZEEBO BOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYZZZZ WHERE WE AT? CROWBCAT TOO PUSSY TO MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT THE SUPERIOR EDITION, HE SHAKIN, HE QUAKIN, HE SITTIN IN HIS HOME ALONE MASTURBATIN. WE GOT THE BLUE VILLAGERS AND ITS ONLY 7MB OF MEMORY, SUPERIOR VERSION? I THINK SO!ZEEBO HYPE, Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-ZEEEEEEBOOOOOO HYYYYYYYPE!
Original game has gameplay density
Reminder that in the remake you have to pay to hear the iconic "Resident Evil 4" voice line on the title screenhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2109307/Resident_Evil_4_Original_Ver_Soundtrack_Swap/"People" are defending this by the way
>>737043582It'll have more players because it's outsold the original already. All ports combined.
>RESIDENT EVIL
if RE4 remake is goyslop, why does it taste so good?
>>737043178NG4, Night striker gear, Absolum, Nioh 3, Khazan (rip), Earthion, Shinobi AoV, Emerald blue, Neon inferno...
>>737044158Where do I buy?
>>737044272Because you’re goycattle
>>737042410Lol
No matter what you think of the original or the remake, it's objectively just fucking scummy behavior to do pic related. Resident Evil 4 isn't Resident Evil 4 (2005), it's THE fucking Resident Evil 4. Call the remake Resident Evil 4: Reborn or some shit, trying to control the language people use like you're casting some fucking black magic propaganda spell is evil behavior. Same with Tomb Raider (2013; DOOM (2016), God of War (2018) etc
>>737044310>NG4they really fucked up by charged $70 for this AND changing the main character
Every time I see someone losing their shit over stuff like this, I see a manchild who didn't grow out of vidya wars he fought as a teenager
>>737043474>>737044049Welcome to the insane level of religious zealotry we have to put up with from OG purists. I guarantee you I have played the OG more than 99% of them, I filled the entire typewriter with cleared saves. To be fair just playing the OG one time all the way through is more than 70% of them. Just firing up the OG and sitting on the title screen is more than 40% of them.Try the remake, it's a really fun game. It's the peak of the entire RE franchise to date.
>>737044409>Try the remake, it's a really fun game.Well at the same time I'm not looking to taint what I take away from the 2005 game. I like the experience of RE4, even if I can't swoon over it to the degree others do. I wasn't trying to replace it with something that's "made better".
>>737043920>>737044079>>737044151This isn't about the game, you dumb faggots, it's about the creator. He had a meltdown when he got backlash over his original video, backpedaled, tried to pull the whole "I was only pretending to be retarded" "I'm such an epic troll", then deleted the whole thing, only to come back a while later with a new video which is just more backpedaling. It's the exact same thing he did with his VR video, exact same thing. It's loser behaviour from a loser who can't stand for his own opinions, can't handle pushback and buckles under pressure from retards on the internet.I will never ever have any respect for people like that, I don't care if they are wrong or right
>>73704438090% of the flamewars are started by OG cucks. It makes them come across as childish, immature fucking failures. It's pathetic and makes someone like me who really likes RE4 ashamed to be associated with it.
>>737044220Iconic is a bit of a stretch anon>SerenityNot even a top 3 save room
>>737044369I don't know, Ryu with new mechanics would have been just as divisiveit's most definitely worth 70 although I never pay more than 20 for a game
remember when crowgcat made a video praising some shitty VR game and got bullied so hard he deleted the video after 1 day?guess he finally grew a spine
>>737043920How is it winning by seething for 3 years straight, then taking at most a week to make the worst video ever? Unc literslly needs to get over it.
No, the remake sucks and there's no reason to play it. If you like or prefer the remake then you have bad taste. Yes, the majority of people are wrong.
>>737042410>le old is le good beacuse i le grew up with itfucking chuds
>>737044753You're right, those graphics are really nice! Too bad capcom fucked up and resident evil 4 (2005) is forever a blurry pf its time mess because of the fucked up HD version.
>>737044753don't careyellow paint is gay but gameplay is superior
>>737044572I think it's 50/50, OG fanatics who think the remake diminishes the original somehow vs those who were not alive/old enough to appreciate the OG and are coping about being "left out" of the experience
>>737044514??? This is just as insane to me. It's just a game? Liking one doesn't lessen the enjoyment of the other. You're quite literally operating on cuck logic to avoid playing what is, in a total vacuum, a great game. If RE9 played like remake and remake played like RE9 I would be in these threads calling the whole debate retarded because RE9 would be the peak Resident Evil gameplay game. I would tell everyone to ignore the remake and just play RE9 for its superior gameplay. This could very well be the fate of remake. The second capcom makes an RE entry that has gameplay superior to remake then it loses its strongest asset. So far they are 0/1 to date.
>>737044651RE4 Remake on the VR2 shits all over the game he was shilling too. Which is funny.
capcom needs to just quit remaking thingstheir old games have more TECHNOLOGY than their remakes, which is fucking sad but I guess that's what happens when you outsource development to fucking india
>>737044585>Iconic is a bit of a stretch anonWhat would a secondary know about artistic integrity from the source material. Can't make a silk purse of a sow's ear can you?
>>737044886You're being disingenuous. For every one time someone makes a thread shitting on the original there is 3-4 threads made to counter it. It's not even close who is instigating these flamewars.
>>737045103I dont have a horse in this race, I enjoyed both. I'm just saying what I see
>>737045082>looks inside>it's born in le wrong generation faggots fighting their peers
>>737044946You can't blame Capcom for making what sellsI blame the consumers who defend this dog shitThe new japs devs aren't any better than indians
>uncs are outsourcing their arguments to youtube comment sections nowdire times
>>737044310NTA but>NG4Seems alright but not gonna buy it at full price + I have other Ninja Gaiden games to play>Night striker gearNot gonna buy a shmup made today when hundreds of better ones exist that are easily emulatable>Absolum2D Indie slop, blue woman main character, no thanks>Nioh 3Already bought it and finished it, good game and I will buy the DLC>KhazanIf it goes on sale, no point in me supporting a studio that dissolved a week ago>EarthionAnother SHMUP indie game>Shinobi AoVSure, will check it out and buy it if the demo is good>Emerald BlueAnother SHMUP + it looks very generic bullet hell, pass>Neon infernoIf its like Metal Slug I will check it out
>>737045082>everything you enjoyed is old shit, ours is better because I wasn't there
>>737044356At least they didn't delist the original. Most game companies do that.
>>737044356lol. It's literally just titles on products they own, so you can consume more products. It's not trying to control language, it's to keep retards like you engaged. Literally go outside and touch grass.
>>737045208Like Capcom outsourcing all their assets for the wokemake lelmao
>>737045208Imagine projecting this hard over being brain raped by the algorithm. >le old people actually use le technology more than le young people!!!!!!Your bait is poor.
>>737045218If you don't like indie shmups you don't like videogames. Simple as
>>737042410nope, og schizos started it so now they have to die. you don't make peace with the aggressor.
>>737045408Hopefully Trump and Israel bombs their trailers they live in.
>>737045391>le old people actually use le technology more than le young people!!!!!!They don't use it more, they just use it worselike commenting on youtube videosor even worse, screencapping comments them and posting them on 4chan
These threads are the peak of insanity... Crowbcat totally won in the moment his video was mass-reported and restricted by brainrot kids. They all had the opportunity to refute all the arguments in the video, but they chose not to do so. Now, the only thing these brainrot kids can do is pretend they "missed the point" and complain that Crowbcat is the "stop having fun!" guy in the room.
>>737045082>children like a pretty similar remake of a game i liked as a kid? Noooo this cant be happening!
>>737045408>>737045476>>737045515This is falseflagging bait
>>737045515Okay nephew, sure.
>>737045515>NOOO don't heckin stain my incel website with youtube screencaps!!!kek zoomer
>>737044554>He had a meltdown when he got backlash over his original videoNuh uh, you're not doing that tranny. The only reason why Crowbat's video got attacked was because Sphere Hunter had a melty and told his simps to raid his channel. Why? Because the golem freak is addicted to bouncing on capcom cock and called the demake a flawless masterpiece, so he felt Crowbat's video was a personal attack. Simple.Also it's always pathetic to see modern crapcum simps who eagerly consoom their demakes whine and bitch and moan while jerking each other off. You love consooming corporate crap made for modern audiences, it's fine to admit it.
>>737045405Nigga please, indie SHMUP's (most indie retro revival games) are literally the same shit as RE4 Remake, they are just releasing a worse version of games that came out 20 years ago, the only reason you support them so much is because >ITS NOT LE HECKIN BIG EVIL CORPO DOING IT, ITS THE LITTLE MAN WHO NEEDS FOOD TO SURVIVE!!!!!You are as retarded as the people you claim to hate.
started re4(nu) again today, played like 5 hours. game is still fun as shit. i really don't get what people bitch about. it's maybe the most consistently fun nu RE since re2r, and before that since og 4.
Zoomer who played remake first here.I think I prefer everything about the original except some of the controls and the obviously nicer textures in the remake. But even then it's not "all grafix", it's just textures. That one shot of the cliff on the island is a good example. The stylized sunrise is high kino.
>sound mixing was kinda shit>yellow paint is lame>stealth takedown is kinda gay even though only get to do it 4 times tops in the entire game>ada sounds like a rusty hagi grant you all of this, but the gameplay is still way betterheadshot kick stab loop was getting repetitive before you even left the village
>>737045806Why don't you grant the censorship, degradation in artistic design and the microtransactions all present in the remake though
>>737045806No, it's not. The gameplay of the demake is worse simply because it uses modern "realistic" controls all console garbage uses these days where instead of the character reacting to your input instantly, you first have to watch him turn and start moving his feet where you want him to go. Retards will bitch about "muh tank controls" when OG leon reacted to your inputs with no delay.
>>737045895granted, especially the mtx stuffstill more fun to actually fight the ganados in the remake, which is what you spend 80% of the game doing
>>737042410Never. Numake is trash.
>>737045515fucks wrong wtih commenting on yt vids?
>>737045762the village is fun but the other areas are padded to hell imo which makes them feel like a chore
>>737045984Nothing, he’s just making an arbitrary hill to die on to make him feel like he has any ground in this conversation whatsoever.
>>737044892it's more than "just a game" thoughyou have to think about their intent behind it. There's any number of suits in Japan, CAPCOM or Sony or elsewhere, who have specific ideas about these cash ins. CAPCOM doesn't understand why anyone would want to play OG RE2 or RE3 or even RE4 games instead of the REmakes. Things like Kaz playing a new Gran Turismo and saying no one would want backwards compatibility on the PS4 because the new games are better. They make a remake as a replacement product, not a celebration of legacy. They don't care whether a game ported as many times as RE4 still has legs today or how well the experience holds up against modern games. They care that people old and new are invested in RE4's legacy and they think they can sell old people the member berries and new people the experience they were too lazy to try as something flash and profitable.We see it all the time in hollywood, as well. Constant reboots, constant rehashes. Sometimes it's an homage and a labor of love, a lot of the time it's just a soulless cash in. There's pretty much nothing in RE4make showing me CAPCOM has proper love or understanding of the OG game, therefore whether it's a good game or not it's a soulless cash-in.
>>737045773>simping millenialskek you're what's wrong with our generation
>>737044369Good thing the game was free
>>737046127Hey I think they're retarded about a lot.Morrowind for instance is carried entirely by vibes and they won't admit it.
>>737046183first redpill is to realize that every single thing they had is objectively more shit than we have or lived in
>>737044369at least it's optimized without denuvo like how a normal video game should be
>>737045960What if I told you the modern momentum/animation controls were a modern implementation of replicating the rooted to shoot design of the og. The very thing you are railing against was implemented on purpose to keep the remake closer aligned to the spirit of the design decision of the OG. The remake has freedom of movement but also makes movement committal to subtly encourage you into having to stand your ground.
>>737045962Remake apologists are disingenuous in saying the remake is "better" due to the gameplay when the original was made at a time where over the shoulder action arcade was unprecedented. Easy to say that the new thing is preferred by today's standards if you completely disregard context and history and judge them on a vacuum, hence all of their arguments coming off as bad faith
>>737042410Demakes are actively making videogames worse, so no.
>>737046254>Um, actually things have gotten better!!Your cartridges do not have games on them lol
>>737046183Morrowind is a good RPG. Oblivion and Skyrim are shitty action games.
>>737046049why is he doing that?
>>737042410>IT'S A MASTERPIECE *CHEFS KISS*I hate zoomers so fucking much with this obnoxious hyperbole.
>>737042440Yes, what's the problem?I like both for different reasons
>>737046467For fun
>>737046365>Remake apologists are disingenuous in saying the remake is "better" due to the gameplaystatements dreamed up by the utterly unhinged
>>737046342Nope, sorry. Not when Leon's actual movement is quick and precise in the OG once you get used to third person tank controls while the demake uses generic console "realistic" controls which has the artificial input delay because your character needs to start moving his feet where you want him to go.
>>737046413and?
>>737046365Ok but that also invalidates claims that the remake is inherently less memorable - even to people who have never played the OG. The milk of context of how re4 influenced the genre has already been spilled. Even if you never played og re4, youve still already felt the effects of it.
>>737046114I think the highest honor a remake can acheive is improving upon the gameplay of the original. The rest of your nostalgia wank window dressing is irrelevant. Remake did improve upon Luis and Krauser a lot. It wasn't just a cash grab. If you want to talk cash grab DeS is that way. Oh wait, it's an irrelevant remake because it did nothing to effect gameplay.
>>737045984it's pretty gay
They fucked up the movement somewhere between the rest of the remakes and re4I don't think it's working like it's supposed to
>>737046591Boo this motherfucker
>>737046606Any gameplay improvement is invalidated by the forced input delay. You get, what? Two improved fights? In exchange for having bad controls the entire game? Not equivalent.
>>737044989>Whole bunch of nothingI won
>>737046615i dunno man i like getting those updoots
>>737046729brainlet
>millenials are angry because every single remake is vastly superior
>>737046183You are so far into terminally online culture you wouldn't know that most millennials never played morrowind and still haven't. I would say morrowind had the same audience size as mewgenics in modern terms versus oblivion being an RE9 level release and skyrim an Elden Ring level phenomenon.
>>737042410suer
>>737046827I was just using an example, anon. I know that most morrowboomers are loud shitheads screaming into the void.
>ooooh the clunkyness>I just can't get into because of leon's clunkynessthe game is designed around it, it's not a accidentthat the survival horror game can't have you dashdancing around the enemiesunironically get good
I beat the chief with a base shotgun and rifle on professional, that was a mistake because I was being greedy not to upgrade just before the castle.
>>737045361hooooly
>>737044356They wanna sell you [NEW THING] without a care in the world for how that artistically affects what came before.
>>737046552And you can also move and shoot in the remake. All to create a continuous flow of movement instead of the binary rooted and in motion design of the OG. It's a way to implement a fluid movement system while also subtly trying to replicate and improve upon the intent of the OG. The intention being you have restricted movement while shooting and enemies have better movement than you so just purely using movement to kite enemies is not a viable strategy in most cases forcing you to stand your ground. This shit is way out of your nostalgia poisoned IQ threshold.
>>737045758What the fuck are you talking aboutEarthion was made by yuzo koshiro and night striker gear was directed by Iuchi
>>737047110but you can still play the original though albeit
>>737046342that's not actually a bad argumentstill feels like shit to actually move around with thoughever
>>737045806the sound design of the demake is genuinely terrible and they have the gall to resell the audio from the original gameplus the UI has that ugly soulless modern design the whole game is just a mess from a presentation point of view and don't get me started on the artistic liberties they took, i.e. censorship and removing the humanity from the villagers
>>737044380>don't ask questions, just consume product then get excited for next product
>>737047125>It's a way to implement a fluid movement systemDemake controls are not "fluid". They use the modern "realistic" input delay. Dummy.
>>737045082>These seething replieskekkers
>>737045361anon utterly BTFO
>>737045762>i really don't get what people bitch aboutTry having a functioning set of eyes next time.
>>737047125zased...
>>737042554Who needs more ports? The pc port already exists, no more ports needed.
>>737047207Doesn't magically make all demakes and demasters out there not actively dogshit and a further dilution of the medium for the unenlightened masses.
>>737043515Why do you hate playing video games, if you liked 5 why wouldn't you want to play the rest of the games unless you're literally a brown alphoomer with a 60 iq
The video that destroyed Crowbie's reputation.
>>737047194>people who left big studio to make indie slop versions of games they previously madeWow so exactly what I said? A worse version of old video games they made years ago with a new coat of paint? Golly gee boy I love Mighty Number 9 and Bloodstained! Nah, no thanks, not supporting the 'indie' equivalent of the RE4 remake no matter what old Japanese mens names you attach to it, would rather just play the original they are ripping off.
>>737047673Do you bots not have any other bait lines to go with?
>>737047125clunkyness posters BTFO forever
>>737047680Shut the fuck up you're an embarrassment
>>737045515riled up the nursing home with this one lmao
>>737046785cope
>>737047921Uh oh, melty!
>>737044753I heard this arguement but it's not mine. Given how muh realism has taken over, taking away yellow paint would people have a harder time since shit blends over compared to games 20 years ago. I wanna hear your thoughts anons
All memes aside, it really is a testament to the quality of the original game that a reduced and downgraded approximation of the real thing still managed to captivate an entire generation of players in the 2020s. Something about RE4 is just lightning in a bottle, everything went so right.
>>737047125Complete nonsense. Demake is headshot headshot parry repeat. Is that fluid? Sure, I guess. So is masturbating. It's mindless.
>>737042410
>>737048131I still consider RE4 a spin off compared to Code Veronica despite the level of quality between the two
>>737048169i agreenow describe the original combat gameplay loop
Why is mods allowing Eceleb to market his slop?
>>737048169Brother, how is it different from OG? Headshot, spin kick, knife to death. I haven't played remake properly. I love 4OG but there's dishonesty in this arguement idk what to tell you.Also whoever thought parrying was a good idea in an RE game needs to get fired
>>737048243esl
>>737042410No one really cares/its not serious.With that said its funny how much butthurt RE4 Remakes superiority is causing
Remake needs modsOriginal needs new textures
>>737048390is remake separate ways worth playing?
>>737046704you are copingremake has better combat, better enemies, better areas (they literally improved the castle and finally made the island tolerable) and removed all shit tier QTEs
>>737048104>The game is just so realistic that we can't use lighting or area design to direct the player's attentionThat is retarded.
>>737048508None of that matters when Leon controls like shit. Why is there forced input delay?
>>737048448I modded Ada Wong to have the AI voice and not wearing any panties, as well as improved stagger animations (looks fucking amazing with the new engine) as well as snappy movement control and the laser dot on all weaponsSo yeah it's fun once you make it action arcade
>>737048390Remake looks better, plays better, has better enemies, better zones and has more soul. Dont let nostalgiamillenials convince you otherwise. It is the definitive version of the game.
>>737048104
>>737048676Absolute fucking moron.
>>737048131>captivate an entire generation of players They forgot REmake 4 existed a year after its release.
>>737048676Here's the kicker, is RE2make or RE4make better in terms of what makes a good remake compared to the original>You can't say neither
>>737048243>Why is mods allowingHello saar?
>>737048815Neither. Don't tell me what to do, pussyboy.
>>737048169That has nothing do with MOVEMENT which is what fluid was a reference to as a descriptor of how the remake handles movement in contrast to the binary movement of the OG. That is also not an accurate description of remake at all which actually includes a lot of movement trying to deal with the more aggressive enemies. Movement is gimped to make the encounters more manageable while not being strong enough to outright solve encounters through movement alone. Again, you lack the IQ for this discussion.
>>737042410Successful remakes lower the quality of my hobby. Glazing FOTMs lowers the quality of my hobby. Homogenizing gameplay across genres lowers the quality of my hobby.
>>737048919>pussyboyHello roadman
>>737042426based fuck OP
>>737043515>after experiencing modern gameszoomers will eat steaming slop with a smile on their face
>>737048771It is concurrently the largest playerbase of any RE game. It is doubling a new release that is barely a month old.
>>737042410Said it before and will say it again: Crimson Desert would provide this guy hundreds of hours of joy at details he loves but he will never end up playing it because of his Resident Evil obsession.
>>737042410No, fuck you. Hope you're flayed alive.
>>737049123Or he could shit on these over promised and under delivered games like Crimson Desert. Like he use to.
>>737049101Soulless bugmen monkeys on typewriters don't count as human.
>>737043817no>>737047663because they are trashold unpopular things suck, gta sa has worse gameplay and graphics compared to gta5, there's not point for me to go and try to catch up on something that happened before I was even born, it makes no senseyou are living right in this moment not in 2004, and if you can't enjoy modern games then what the fuck are you doing on /v/ - Video Games where people discuss recent releases? Gtfo to reddit or /vr/I don't have infinite time to replay all the oldslop ever released, there are more modern games dropping in a year that I would be able to play anyway so fuck off with this nonsense>>737049065retard, old games are literally unplayable by modern standards, if they are so good why isn't your senile ass playing them right now huh?
>>737047125Yeah because moving and shooting at the same time wasn't invented yetYou're a shitastain of a human being apt for picking cotton and nothing else
>>737049246Liars are less than human. All you have are lies and buzzwords.
>>737049123He could have made a video on RE9 which has tons of shit thats wrong with it, instead he made a remake of his RE4 remake video, he essentially did the same thing capcom did but with his own video invalidating it and making it not worth watching. Its like pottery, it rhymes.
re4>maximum soul>kbnm controls are assre4make>soulless>good kbnm controlsthey should just have patched re4 with modern controls
>>737049313You belong in a zoo like the soulless, personality-void subhuman consumer cattle you are. I am intellectually, spiritually, physically, and ethically superior to you.
>>737049246Unfathomably based.
>>737042410No, the demake is abominable censored amerimutted pozzed goyslop dogshit with absolutely 0 redeeming qualities
>>737049397Sorry the soul lives in the jank
>>737042410So what's even the point on hating the remake when the original has been ported to basically every platform, it is not like a demon's souls demake that was taunted as the best way to play it and really the only way to do it on modern platforms.
>>737049462Based for telling straight up lies that support your delusion. Couldn't be more modern if you tried.
>>737049542>So what's even the point on hating the remakeRemakes should be superior in every way. If they're not then they shouldn't exist. Corporations that charge money for inferior products should be shamed and mocked at every opportunity.
>>737049390his last video was years ago he just needed money quickly and so remaking(lol) his video again for his idiot audience was the quickest and laziest way to get money again.
>>737049438>You belong in a zooshut up unc, you lost, all culture panders to me, you are old news, nobody gives a fuck about your senile retard opinions and takes>I am intellectually, spiritually, physically, and ethically superior to you.do you realize that you are a virgin 30yo retard that's seethign at digital toys for teenagers on 4chan right? the only superior thing you have is that receding hairline that's crawling off your scalp at light speed
>>737048640didnt have any issues maybe consider you are just shit at the gamealso the randomizer is better in remake as well
>>737044409Same. I've played through the original from start to finish over 50 times on about a half dozen or so platforms. I've done everything from a handcannon-only run to a knife only run. I really enjoyed the remake. I've played it through a few times since it came out. It's not quite as fun as the original, but it's still very good.
>>737049390>>737049664He went from "you are all wrong, I am the lone voice against this insanity" to "look at all the people who agree with me" and expected praise for it. He completely forgot what made him appealing to begin with.
>>737049565>everyone against my narrative is the same person Meds, friend.
>>737042410Crow never recovered from this, he's been a different, broken man ever since, if he can even be called a man anymore I heard the shock of the dislikes turned him trans
>>737042410Different reasons? The same thing but shittier is not awesome for different reasons.
>>737049542>when the original has been ported to basically every platformDoes that magically make the demake not dogshit? I'm sorry, if I port RE4 to my calculator will RE4R reshape itself into a better game? Is that how it works?
>>737049693Congratulations, you inherited the videogame industry when it's on the verge of its next crash. Consumer loyalty, confidence, and optimism are at all-time lows. You get to frolic and play in a digital landscape where every predatory money-mincing scheme has been normalized. The peak of your cultural interactive media experience is a cynical jungle of micro transactions, asset flips, and developers who (correctly) assume that their core playerbase is unintelligent. They'll shit in your mouth and you'll thank them for it. You get to be core audience for a form of media that is in decline. You are King Turd of Shit Mountain. An entire third of game industry workers were laid off last year. The decline will continue. The fire will rise and you will mock those smart enough to not breathe in the smoke. You are aging and when your life is at an end this exchange will feel like it only happened minutes ago. Time speeds up. You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
Remake is ok, original is good but overrated
Remakes make the 20% with brains feel insulted because the 80% without brains will try it out and say,>"Uhhh... it’s way better now!”just like a certain son-of-a-bitch Redditor friend of mine said when he played the Demon’s Souls remake, without noticing details like how the miracle gong sounds (gongs as motifs characteristic of sacred temples) were replaced by generic sounds from the sci-fi sound library the developers had on hand.
>>737048235>Headshot kick>turn around because enemies are now pincering you>shoot a guy in your way in the knee then kick>move past up a ladder and kick it down>knock another one down, finish this one with the knife to save ammo because you've built distance>notice there's an exposed plaga in the approaching crowd>use a flashbang then knock them down to reposition again>shoot a stick of dynamite midair for a huge payoff>shotgun the chainsaw guy off a ledge>kneecap a shield nigger then break 3 shields with one kick
the second i saw Leons neanderthal visage in the remake i knew this would be slopand i was proven right
>>737044220explain to me why this matters and why i should carei can hear the voice line any time i want right now for freehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCxFqH3VkKM
>>737050467Also I forgot to mention demake removes shooting through doors, barricading doors, and breaking doors completely.
I didn't like the original and I won't bother playing the remake because fuck remasters, remakes and reimaginings.
>>737042410The demake isn't awesome, it's a cynical asset store filled cash grab.
>>737048104There's a mod to remove the yellow paint and it doesn't make the game any harder. You can even set it so there are superior diegetic indicators, like Illuminados symbols on the barrels and boxes, and yellow paint on ladders and ledges being replaced by blood.
>>737050772That's not true, doors in the village cam be shot through and destroyed. The only thing they removed was slamming doors, which is a shame. This misinformation comes from an example in the castle, when in the original most doors in the castle were also unbreakable.
>>737048448SW was blatantly made by a B team, the village is 100% recycled areas, and the boss fights are painfully lazy with like 3 moves each, actually guilty of the "trivialized by parry spam" accusation. Can't believe they asked money for this.
>>737049693Zoomers always bring up age as if it's this devastating rebuke because they're terrified of aging. Millennials don't give a shit because it doesn't matter at all.
SOULmake
>>737051596Erm that death animation is too long
Haven't seen anyone else mention this, but it seems like Crowbcat's latest RE4 video has been mass reported into becoming age restricted on cucked nations with age verification laws.
Sorry chuds but the original is a clunky, outdated misogyny simulator. Like "I knew you'd be fine if you landed on your butt." is genuinely disgusting. Luis blatantly objectifying Ashley, a 20 year old girl, by commenting on her "ballistics", there's even an achievement named after it, and being able to peek up her skirt, the pantyshots during the solo Ashley section, all of that is just distasteful.
>>73705216720 year old girls love to fuck, sorry you're still a virgin
>>737052167Depicting accurate casual sexism isn't an endorsement of it. It's immersion breaking when characters behave like actors in a sexual harassment awareness campaign.
I just think they could have used that fat wad of dosh to make other games. Split it between RE9 and Pragmata.
>>737042629>Steamchart argument for a single player game
>>737042837Destiny 2 is not mandatory PvP.
>>737050135all that coping wall of text instead of admitting that I get to play better version of """"classics""""", crazy uncdon't even get me started on millennial writing, everyting that's supposedly "wrong" with the industry is just the effect of your ilk enterting the workforcesince you are incapable of parsing text written in english consider the following meme as tldr
>>737053306(((millennials)))
>>737042426THIS, BASED.Remake is vastly superior, OG fags BTFO by first post
>>737053306>What Millenials produced>it's all produced by gen Xwhat did anon mean by this?
>>737052167Don't ever let this troon know about Lolita, one of the most highly-acclaimed novels of all time. 5/10 bait, got me to reply.
>two cakes>but eating one of the cakes perpetuates business practices which consists of never making anything new and selling reheated garbage with chunks missing which are sold for extra>but the two cakes exist
>>737053306>Millennial writing sucks, you millennial>Now excuse me while I brag about getting to play remakes of games millenials played, which are being remade and rewritten by millenialsTook you an hour to respond with a contradiction. What's your mom's pussy smell like, boy?
>>737053306>Brags about playing modern games>Which are all DEI-infested shit made by old people he hates???
Wow, leave it to the fans to fix the game once again
>>737042410Fuck demakes and demake defenders, if you can't handle the original version of a game then you don't deserve to play it at all, simple as.
>>737043582I thought OG is timeless masterpiece?
>>737053712>>737053807zoom niggers aren't very bright, pls understand
>>737044220imagine caring about shit like this also based capcom for squeezing every dollar out of nostalgia boomers who 100% paid for this bullshit
>>737044310>NG4>Absolum>Shinobi AoVYou retarded NIGGER.
spherehunter ?more like: homosexualpenishunter
>>737045534>They all had the opportunity to refute all the arguments in the video,there were no arguments in that video only people's preferences."There is too much blood in this horror game" How do you even refute this statement? okay dude whatever you say
>>737048104It's a copout. There are perfectly viable ways of guiding player direction that developers all knew v very well of (light being one example). Nothing about graphics progressing has changed this.It's a completely fucking lazy bandaid solution to not caring about the craft. Look at any playtest/developer commentary and they'll talk about it plenty.
>>737055087i cant believe no one has the fabled crywank
>>737055087moar liek bug chaser
>>737045534plenty people pointed out what's wrong with that video if you bothered to search for ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PXn1m9NzEthere are just so many scenes from the remake that Crowbcat choses not to show.> The fight with the chainsaw sisters (probably because Leon does that backflip and Crowbcat can't show remake Leon looking cool)> The Mendez chase scene like Bawk mentioned> Showcasing the water hall only when the music stops playing > The castle battlements area > He also doesn't show any of the mines area where Luis teams up with you, even in the double el gigante footage, it's almost like he made an effort to exclude Luis> The krauser knife fight (not the cutscenes, the actual fight where you have to use the knife manually)> The garrador fight > For some reason in the water hall, while showing combat, he makes an active effort to run past an enemy after stunning it and not kicking it, like you can see him actively avoiding the melee prompt (ig he can't show remake Leon doing cool roundhouses???)> The main Krauser fight (all he does his show the transformation cutscene, not you know.... the literal rest of the fight)> The scene where Leon shoots Salazar, causing him to transform> He also cuts off many scenes in the remake to suit his agenda. Example:- the scene with the Saddler boss where Leon says "I'll give you a holy body" and stabs him with his own staff, Crowbcat cuts the footage off just when the rocket hits SaddlerEverybody's entitled to their own opinion. The problem arises when you use such dishonest and slimy methods (like literally ommitting footage) in order to convince the audience into thinking a certain way. Because of this, I believe that this was an incredibly disengenous comparison. Even if Crowbcat was right on 1 or 2 counts, it doesn't matter because of the means he used to compare the two games and that his overall goal was not to compare them, but cater towards the orginal in a biased way
>>737042410You must be a total dumbass if you think this was unbiased comparison
>>737055446>The scene where Leon shoots Salazar, causing him to transformThat's a downgrade. They took away the cool scene where Salazar gets a knife through the hand. A bunch of a new shit doesn't excuse cut content and shortcuts.
>>737045082based af
>>737044554>He had a meltdown when he got backlash over his original video, backpedaled, tried to pull the whole "I was only pretending to be retarded" "I'm such an epic troll", then deleted the whole thingnever happened by the way
>>737044554He didn't delete any part of the video. It's still up, you moronhttps://youtu.be/83BhJAZrXrc
>>737049397The original plays great with mouse and keyboard. Not the first PC port, but the one after that is pretty solid.
>>737043582>lets see how many players remake 4 has in 1 yearMost popular RE game on Steam>lets see how many players remake 4 has in 2 yearsMost popular RE game on Steam>lets see how many players remake 4 has in 3 yearsMost popular RE game on Steam 2 months after new RE game is released>L-LETS SEE HOW MANY PLAYERS REMAKE HAS IN... HUH... 20 YEARS????
>>737048104I disagree. this is just a cope response from people trying to justify capcom slapping that ugly yellow paint everywhere. the argument that the graphics are so good now that it's necessary is bullshit. I played with the yellow paint remover mod, you can remove the paint completely or replace it with something that actually fits, like blood splatters. I had no issues. maybe I missed a couple of items because I didn't notice a wooden box, who cares? why is it the end of the world for some people if you miss something because you weren't paying enough attention?
>>737055667>A bunch of a new shit doesn't excuse cut content and shortcuts.in a vacuum this is true but nothing was actually cut out>blatant jokes relegated to cheeky achievement references>potentially less serious stuff all relegated to ada's story, which was previously rehashed dogshitalthough pity that means we have to listen to that nails on chalkboard shiteoh and all the critics like to conveniently forget all the dogshit island encounters that were redone or removed
I have to say, this out-of-nowhere narrative that crowb is some kind of real journalist who is supposed to have integrity is extremely funny to melike where have these people beenhe's a shitposter
>>737042410Anon, before you are two cars.One is near damned flawless, beefy engine, tires in perfect condition, the interior is authentic leather and it has that permanent new-car smell. Even if the paintjob is faded, and the headlight covers are yellowed.The other car looks like something from a sci-fi movie, but under the hood is a 2 stroke lawnmower engine, the interior is all plastic, and the fucking seatbelts don't work.
uncs ITT defending some piss filter shooter game from 2005
>>737056112>car analogy
>>737044272>be mindraped zoomer>extremely mindraped>try to play re4>no yellow paint on the ladders>HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW>"don't care yellow paint is gay but gameplay is superior"
>>737042629Dumbest post itt.
>>737055920>I have to say, this out-of-nowhere narrative that crowb is some kind of real journalist who is supposed to have integrity is extremely funny to meif ever anyone needs to know what an astroturf campaign, i think this coordinated smear is it
>>737055446Bawk is a grifter reacting for content, he's not going to shit on any RE game when it earns him viewers.
>>737056220I much prefer the crimson desert strategy>color nothing>make random exploding barrels 1hko the player>fill the world with meaningless garbage to inconvenience you incredibly based design its no wonder everyone says theyre having a blastno really fuck that game
RE4 is the worst Resident Evil story wise, they had to add Wesker on Assigment Ada back in the day just to justify his place on the main story of Resident Evil, because without it its just a side story that barely changes the world, meanwhile.
>>737042410>admit both games are awesomeNo. RE4 is the most overrated game of all time. It's competent, but it's not GOTYAY, and honestly I don't care about RE4make at all, but it's probably not better.
>>737055885>conveniently forget all the dogshit island encountersThe island being bad is a zoomer meme. The village and castle are two of the most iconic settings of that gen so obviously the island is going to look worse when it doesn't live up to that. 20 years ago people were like "yeah the island isn't as good" and through broken telephone it became "oh THAT part of the game" by zoomers who didn't play it. Many such cases.
RE4 is just wanked as a great game because it's on every single platform, if it stayed on Wii people would say that was shit, its not a influential game, nothing that they made was copied on other game, NOW, Last of Us is a game that has nothing original on it but its the first one to do everything great and that's why is 1000x more important for gaming than RE4, thats why RE4OG can't stand RE4R, they can't understand that everything that they copied from Last of Us is 100 times better than the original, they like to pretend that is super fun to open the inventory every time you need to change weapons or equip a grenade instead of having a radial menu.
The original is an undisputed masterpiece – but the remake – has its own – merits. I think we should all Buy Product and stop – complaining
>>737056382well not quite>adds a shit ton of light sensitive enemies in RE5>variant shows up in Rev2inb4>well thats what i was saying with weskerright so they did make RE4 relevant; Ada DID escape with the plagas, and the plagas was introduced into circulation
>>737049313>gta sa has worse gameplay and graphics compared to gta5please be trolling
>>737045082
>>737050467Ok, so OG gameplay loop is kneecap kick kick repeat.Thanks for confirming.
>>737056540>The island being bad is a zoomer meme.no it fucking isntthe wreckingball room is genuinely shitthe retarded "kano from mortal kombat" dudes with the hammers looked stupid as hellthe big fat cigar minigun dudes looked stupid as hellThe "large dumptruck" is much better in RE4R, and so is the chopper run (although i hate it in both games)and its true i prefer krauser 1 in 4R but krauser 2 in OGotherwise you cant seriously tell me the wreckingball room is anything less than a genuinely unacceptable encounter in RE4OG
>>737046342>to keep the remake closer aligned to the spirit of the design decision of the OGword salad mental gymnastics lmao
>>737056331Nah bawk is a rare real RE fan so I can definitely see him having that shit opinion even if he does play it safe.
>>737056832you're being disingenuous if you dont think that is a remarkably effective, if simple combat loop present in both games, although only relevant with different guns (ie red9 in RE4R does way too much damage, but the blacktail does "just enough")
I'm currently trying to achieve S+ on professional, starting chapter 14 at the 4:40 mark. Will I make it?
>>737044272because you're goycattle
>>737056540I thought I was going insane when I saw people act like the island was some horrible experience.>>737056905>the island is bad because of 1 room and 2 enemies looking dumb
>>737056382>muh stawywho gives a shit, nigger?
>>737057039You're being an utter brainlet if you don't think that it gets fucking boring after the like third time or so. I bet you stood up and clapped when Mike appeared on the island.
>>737057039Yeah I don't understand why zoomers pretend why you can't just headshot into melee in RE4R either. It's how I did ny first playthrough since I was just coming from RE4OG and it was so effective I didn't die even once.
>>737057148>the island is bad because of 1 room and 2 enemies looking dumba game can be broken down to its "THAT moments"and i cited 2 sectionsbut you're absolutely high if you dont think 1 bad section cant sink an otherwise perfect experienceto break down your farce>if i just dismiss all the complaints, then there are no complaints and my thing is perfectyes, but thats a retarded way of thinkingCapcom isn't wasnt going to just rerelease a game and change one encounter>>737057327>You're being an utter brainlet if you don't think that it gets fucking boring after the like third time or soif the gameplay loop isn't for you then that's your problemin fact it isn't really a problem because then just don't engage in it>if you want to be efficient, have a plan to CQC a bunch of enemies out of your way>if you have the ammo just blast themboth work, I prefer the first way but ive seen people do it the other wayJust because it's an option, doesn't mean you have to complain about it because its the only option you assume exists because clearly you're being wilfully singleminded to have an argument
>>737042426Based, fuck demake fags
>>737057453You're delusional
>>737057453>Just because it's an option,I merely referred to the gameplay loop as described above, which is what an RE4babby tried to sell as engaging and great gameplay.
>>737056993>bawk is a rare real RE fan
>>737057647He's 100'd% every single RE game including Gaiden. Can you say the same?
>>737055885>in a vacuum this is true but nothing was actually cut out Cool, show me the remake's Waterworld please.
>>737057613>your shots are easily converted into gameplay rewardsthat is engaging and greatwhat is your opinion of engaging and great gameplay if not something elegant and intuitive?my corollary is>fast forward to 2025-2026, retard companies like Arrowhead cant even make THE GIANT GLOWING WEAKSPOT a fucking weakspot>>737057558the fact that i can be specific and all you can do is speak vaguely and without insight is so painfully consistent with people who think RE1-3 is good "because muh horror roots" and why 6 is arbitrarily bad because you heard your favorite fucking internet superstar give you talking points
>>737057792>that is engaging and greatNo, it's repetitive, but I assume for autists repetitive IS engaging.
>>737053306
>>737057706Yes? The franchise is 30 years old you colossal inbred, the idea an e-celeb whose job thrives if he sucks corporate cock and has lukewarm responses to reheated slop remakes is le true fan is unfathomably stupid. Jump out a window.
>>737057780you got me but ill reverse uno and say they made ashley's segment not shit by expanding upon it>>737057841>every moment MUST be something new, you can't have a gameplay loopyeah? i guess you really liked village thenIf you don't like a gameplay loop that's your problem, but resident evil didn't invent gameplay loops, and your argument dismisses so many things in life, let alone fucking games if you can't understand thatalso better an autist than a ritalin dependent
>>737057854It's more accurate to say what normies produced, the stuff for millennials was done by nerds or otherwise freaks that the people identifying as "gamers" today would bully in school
>>737058009The lengths RE4babbies go to deify their 7/10 game is always amazing.
>>737049693>all culture panders to meSo that's how we ended up with >>737053306
>>737056925Word salad dismissal.
>>737058139>a game cant be good because...gameplay loops are now badsays you
>>737057970Post your clear file or genuine copy of RE Gaiden.
>>737058220>call it a 7/10 game>anon: "YOU SAY THIS GAME SUCKS!"Ok, you're just some braindamaged zoomer
>>737057854Strange how zoomers come crawling to 4chan, usually from reddit and twitter, then proceed to blame us for whatever people from those sites have done.
>>737043582bold of you to assume they wont remake 4 a second time in the next decade
I don't know if boomers are ready for this, but sucking off a dead industry hasn't even begun yet. There will come a time in the next few years when more zoomers grow up and create influential video essays that will denounce all old games as a whole to the point that they are laughed at in the same way everyone laughs at Citizen Kane today. And everyone will believe it and it will become a Canonical Fact until you die. Putting demakeslop and indieslop on a pedestal as the greatest games of all time was the prelude
>>737045361bodied that freak lmao
Both are fun, but OG will always be infinitely replayable/quotable and the remake will never have that same soul.
>>737058193>n-no u...lol
I will admit there are a lot of really, really nice things in these remake games. Modern technology is very cool. Look how fucked up Salvador is. I mean it's so visceral and satisfying.I just wish we'd see a new game with new characters and new enemies in a new setting that can be memorable and iconic instead of just rehasing and remaking every single memorable thing from the past
All that being said....new Ada Wong game with a real voice actress when????
>>737059401They should take all this effort and put it into the new instalments but then they don't get the easy bux. Pragmata is the most respectable thing capcom has done in a decade even if it ends up being a mediocre game
is the og worth playing over the remake if i never played either? for what reason? i heard that the atmosphere between the two is significantly different but how much weight does that hold?
>>737060912If you like looking at game menus and listening to ambient sounds you will have a blast with OGIf you like playing decent action-horror shooter game with modern graphics and good controls stick to remake
>>737060912Everything about the aesthetics, like the sound, the cutscene direction, cinematography, the voice acting, the dialogue, etc is all vastly superior in the original work. The new game is a more modern TPS with the same sluggish gamefeel you're used to playing in anything else. The original game uses a spin on survival horror controls mixed with beat em up elements to create an action arcade experience full of tension and variety.If you want to play RESIDENT EVIL 4, you have to play the original game. The new game is just a modern game using RE4 as its template. Play emulated, PC port, console, whatever you gotta do. I love the HD project with a few mods like hotkey weapon swap.
>>737060912It's a bit more action-y and less serious in tone I'd say. you get to see more body horror, transformations. the castle looks like a videogame castle. Main villains call leon on the phone just to monologue, spew one-liners. some action scenes like the iconic laser room were removed for some ungodly reason.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fey8XU0OiWo
>>737056331He criticized remake 4 plenty of times in that video just like he criticized remake 2 in the past.You seem to think that everyone has the same opinion as you and if they don't express that it's only because they are pandering to their audience or they are paid shills. It would be better if you accepted that the world is more complicated than that instead of insulting everyone that said something that made you mad.
>>737042410Why did he decide to die on this hill that hard?I'm replaying every game in the series after Requiem and I plan to play original RE4 (this time with Wii controls for the first time) and remake.If had Oculus Quest, I would play the VR version as well.
>>737060912OG has superior story, characters, sound, aesthetics, and directing. The renake arguably has better gameplay and pacing, but I am an OG bab so I would put them at about even, just different experiences. Of course if you are a zoomie who balks at the idea of tank controls you should stick to the remake.
>>737062160how is the story in OG better
>>737061870I think the problem with bawk is that he tries to be politically correct and "corporate" because he is trying to get in bed with Capcom similar to Suzy. During his RE9 stream you can tell he absolutely HATED some parts like the gun zombies and mortars, but he didn't say anything critical and just cringe laughed.
>>737042837I thought the indoor fog was just a marathon thing
>>737042410millennials cant stop seething about games they don't have to play
>>737062358It is basically a 90s American action flick that doesn't take itself too seriously. Stupid, but funny and entertaining. The remake tries to recontextualizing it to be completely serious, but it just comes across as stupid and grimdark for no reason.
>>737062393Also he shilled RE3make hard during the release period, but now he admits he was caught up in the hype (read: shill money ran out) and that the game is dogshit.
>>737062604They are seething because their favorite childhood game got replaced by a newer model which is also getting more awards and praise and recognition than the original so they gather in group therapy threads like this when they tell each other the original game is better and has "sovl" because you can hear a crow squeal in the background. It's hard to believe people like this exist honestly
Why did they turn the remake into Sonic with constant quips?
>>737063037The best thing about this is that when RE4 was released the very same people said the same about the actual boomers complaining about RE4 not being Resident Evil.
>>737060912They're completely different games. Don't pick one over the other.
