>PlayStation 6 is expected to support backward compatibility with PS4 and PS5 games
>Source: my hemorrhoids
Sooo...backwards compatibility for consoles which had no games?
>>737044657>falls for this bullshit againyep thats a Snoytard.is it also 8k at 240 FPS?
>>737044657im good on ps6 if its ai nonsense lolthey broke my ps4 to make me buy ps5 somehow i dont think god will let them do that again
>>737044657Which ps5 games?
how is this even news worthy? it's the same AMD architecture of course it will have backwards compatibility, why wouldn't it?
>>7370446573 consoles0 games
>PS6 coming within the next 18 months>PS5 still barely has any gamesthat'll be $900 plus tip btw
>>737044731easily doable if they implement DLSShell even 16k @ 120 fps wouldn't seem impossible
I mean it's absolutely fucking dead in the water if it doesn't so
>>737044697PS4 did have games you tendienigger
>>737044657Dude a fucking rock outside has backwards compatibility with every ps3 game
As digital downloads become more prevalent, there's no reason not to have games be backwards compatible
who's surprised? both sony and microsoft have been using x86 AMD CPUs and AMD GPUs since ps4 and xbox one and will be using them for next gen, so backwards compatibility with those systems should be obvious
>>737044657PS5 games look nearly identical to PS4 games. Unless the leap to PS6 is going-into-games-machine tier then what's the point?
>>737044803Worth it to be able to play the new God of War and Intergalactic in silky smooth 60fps 1080p
>>737044919lol
>>737044657
>>737044657>It can download and play games for earlier consoles from PSstoreWhoop de fucking do.
>>737044697KEKK this
Don't care. My PS4 still works fine and I suspect the Californiastation 6 don't have any good games just like the 5.
>>737044697KWAB
>>737044697If Sony has no games than why are PCtards crying that Sony is stopping porting them?
>>737044836>implement DLSS>on AMD hardware
>>737045119Are those PCtards in the room with us anon
>>737044697This logic would also apply to buying a high end PC to run *nothing* as well
>>737044657is this supposed to be a surprise? ever since ps4 playstation (and xbox) have been x86 which makes development easier but also backwards compatibility
>>737044657>it doesn't the bare minimumWow!!!Imagine releasing a console in 2027 without backwards compatibility
>>737044906My theory is that there won't be very many games that can only be played on the PS6. I think the model will kind of shift to where you don't need to buy the new console, at least not right away, and games will keep getting released for the old systems as long as they can support them. It would kind of be like PCs I think, where you just upgrade if you care about better fidelity, but your old PC still works.
>>737044657>For several weeks, then jk buy them all over again cuz shareholders lol>Still no games>The "games" available/ exclusive are either turbo gay (figuratively and/ or literally), movie slop, or fotw online sloplol
>>737045280Yes, they are. Just look in any comment section about bloodborne lol
>>737044657well it's either that or having even less games than the fucking ps5
backwards compatibility and a smaller form factor or no buy
What do you need backwards compatibility for? PS4s are like $30
>>737044697lol spbp
Uh, bros? It looks like there's thousands of games.
>rumor weeks ago was that it was going to be full backwards compat PS1-PS5>now it's only PS4 and PS5Yeah I think I'll be skipping next gen.
>>737044657What games?
>>737045016why do you enjoy playing at 30 fps?
>>737046008Yeah but none of them are Mario or Zelda so no games clearly.
Finally I can play my PS4 games in true 60fps
>>737046158You can plau ps1, ps2, and ps3 games on it (via streaming)
>>737045556I also think this is where we are heading, but since optimisation is a lost art you'll be more or less forced to buy the newest console anyway.
>>737046458>paying for Premium>paying for Premium when the jews went from adding 3-4 classic games to 1 a monthYeah no faggot. I'd rather put my balls in a SAW V device than give these faggots any more of my money.
Games? ps4 and ps5?Where? are the in the room with us right now?>>737044731I remember when ps5 was "more powerful than any PC" and that the magic SSD was going to somehow make graphics better.
>>737046462>but since optimisation is a lost art you'll be more or less forced to buy the newest console anyway.At some point sure...but that's the case for all tech. The real issue is that in previous gens, by the time you got to that point, the console was much much cheaper than on release. These days the price might increase which is just retarded. And that's without even factoring in scalpers and resellers.
>>737046252Not him but a hacked PS4 is a great little gaming device for casual games and RPGs. Some games don't really need to be 60fps while others badly do which is why you have a PC. It's also fun if your trying to platinum.
>>737044657AMD Zen Apu said to compatible with AMD Zen Apu softwareBreaking news
>>737044857Such as?
>>737044657You will buy the remake re-remaster and you will be happy
Lol a locked down cuck device
>>737044657The most embarassing thing about Sony is they didn't even port their best games to PC. They didn't port Bloodborne so people emulated it instead. They didn't port TLOU remaster but the shitty demake instead. They didn't port the old classics.
>>737046458what a sad state of affairs
>>737044657It's incredibly easy to be backwards compatible when you have no games.
>>737045729PC has the best version of bloodborne and you can't play it lmao
>>737044657There's currently more Play Station models than PS5 games.
>>737047151Amen. When will PC trannies wake up? Next year the will take away your usb slots
>>737044657>ps6 before a 60 fps patch for bloodbornesony have no clue what their customers want
>>737044657>>737044697Great! So it'll play Bloodborne and Astro's Playroom. Two whole games!
>>737047303And Bloodborne will be at 30fps 1080p.
>>737045280Why are PCück like this?
>>737044657Yooo, that means I can play my PS4 games along with PS5 remakes of my PS4 games, and inevitably PS6 remakes of my PS5 games!
>>737044731Launch title will be a new Vib-Ribbon game that runs at 8k 240fps.
>>737047272what eslbabble is this? your snoy toy has a chip dedicated to keep you console cattle penned in
>>737044657So it's a Bloodborne machine.
>>737047272Cuckjeet cope from the ghetto
>>737047578>>737047654PC trannies crying and seething
>>737046252It's not hardware, it's about Sony being ruled Santa Monica.
>>737047783you're cattle, stop flailing about and accept it
>>737044803Normal people will continue playing on the PS5 for up to 3 years after the PS6.
>>737047783Cuckjeet promoting junk for 0 cowdungs lel
>>737044657Geez, that's almost an entire N64 worth of NO GAEMS
Won't it be compatible with PS3 and PS2? It should already have a powerful enough CPU to run emulators without problems. (I estimate at least an 8-core, 16-thread processor, compared to a Ryzen 7700 or 8700G.)
>>737048062fuck off racist
>>737048498Fuck off poojoo
>>737045280>Are those PCtards in the room with us anonObviously
>>737044657In some ways it needs to to justify the $899 price.
>>737045209https://youtube.com/watch?v=0LEkOG1yqqw
>>737044657Hell yeah can't wait to play Bloodborne at 30fps again
>PS6>still no Parappa the Rappa 3
No fucking way that shit will have red LEDs.
>>737045280/v/ is pcvirgin central, always has been
>>737049780>i cant stand men who dwell in their mommy and daddy's house all day and play shitty video games>i want a hard working man so i can mooch off of him and do fuck all whilst spouting female rhetoric bullshit on a shitty iphone i bought with his hard earned moneyKILL ALL ROASTIES
>>737049776O wouldn't mind if the ps6 was smaller and had color variation.
>>737044697heh, now what?
>>737044657>PS6 is expected to be a PS4 pro pro pro pro
>>737044803honestly crazy to me that i might completely skip the PS5 just because i was waiting for it to get a game worth buying one for.
>>737044697Why are exclusive cultists so retarded?
>>737046158how can it be backwards compatible with pre PS4 games if it doesn't have a disc drive anon?
>>737044657Wow! How many games will that make?!Let's see...Damn... still no games? Boring>>737047958Normal people already bought a PC
PS5 Pro Pro.And it will probably sell a ton, with GTA6 around the corner
>>737055149>Normal people already bought a PClol,from what I see a huge portion of so called pc gamers play on shitty laptops
>>737055781Not really, those numbers you mention are based on old hardware surveys by Valve, from around 2023-early 2024the latest one, you can easily access it, has swinged a lot, now around 70% of people have a PC either on par or better than a ps5 pro
>>737055914You're delusional
>>737044657So your saying it won't have any games, that is why they are making it backwards capable with PS4 games. The PS5 doesn't even have any games for them to use backwards compatibility, lulz.
>>737044657>PS5>Games???
>>737045119NOBODY WANTS YOUR MOVIESLOP
>>737054981Those that did buy the PS5 are screwed, Sony is going to sweep the no games PS5 under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist, lol.
>>737056401most people who bought the ps5 only bought it for FIFA and GTA so they won't care
Here's what's going to happen.>PS6 rolls out>Scalpers will pre-order and buy en mass just like they did with the PS5>SONY execs will only look at numbers sold and rejoice>Scalpers think they can sell at a marked up price>No one buys>Everyone remembers the PS5 fiasco and will either play old games or wait till there are games for the PS6>Game devs and SONY execs wonder why no one is buying games or the PS subscription>Scalpers seethe
>>737056447Waitstation
>>737044657No PS2 support, no buy.
>>737056529Honestly, ebay and other sites should just ban every accont that is selling a new consoles in day one.
>>737044657oh wow this shit gimmick again. get back to me when you playstation 6 has forward compatability with ps7 and ps8 games, okay?
>>737044857May I see them?
>>737045119Nobody cares my guy
>>737044657thank fucking nigger christ huh, imagine buying a new fucking console and having to buy your 3 y'old shit game again.
>>737056142NTA but how does that contradict what he said?
>>737056529The insanity will continue until morale improves
>>737056401after how the PS5 was, i'm not expecting them to make games for the PS6 either.
>>737044697Shut up and eat you shitty overpriced tablet that can't run shit but games for toddlers.
>>737056529>>Everyone remembers the PS5 fiascoI don't. I like my PS5 a lot.
>>737044657>x86 machine is expected to be compatible with x86 machines from the same vendor
>>737044657How's it gonna do that without a disc drive?
>>737058779The latest rumors about it launching in two models like Xbox X and S say that the premium model will have a disc drive.
Call of Duty is still being released on 8th gen platforms
>>737044657not unexpected.everything is x86-64 based anyways.
>>737044657WOW!!! Who knew?
>>737046458>via streamingNot anymore on the PS6 home console and handheld, they're capable of playing PS3 games natively, so native emulated PS3 along with Vita games will be added to PS Plus Classics.
>>737048923You fucking moron, that's injecting FSR4 into the game in place of its DLSS option by spoofing it
>>737058952Nope, just a home console and a handheld, there isn't budget PS6 home console, the Orion is your budget PS6 home console, kek. Unlike the Series consoles though, Sony isn't making devs work from top to bottom for optimization, they're making them work from bottom to top for it, true optimization.
>>737058180>They will call you a toddler, but they will never admit that they have no games
>>737058304Having to sign up for text/email alerts when BestBuy, Target, WalMart, Amazon, etc gets restockEntering lotteries to get a chance to buy a PS5Signing up and making accounts to be put on a wait listWatching youtubers on how to increase your chances by refreshing on as many devices as you have possibleThat gut feeling as you're trying to compete against scalper botsall for a console with barely any games.
>NO GAMES TO BACKWARDS COMPABILITYI MEAN THAT LITERALLY AS WHY WOULD I PLAY A GAME FROM 10 YEARS AGO. YOUVE PLAYED LIKE CRIMSON DESERT AND COUNTER STRIKE AND THATS BASICALLY EVERYGAME. AI WILL MAKE ACTUAL REAL GOOD GAMES SOON IN THE FUTURE
>>737044697Erm, Netflix.
>>737044657No shit, it's going to be another x86 box. There's no reason in the current day for consoles to drop backwards compatibility.
The Sony I grew up with died the second they closed Japan Studio, fuck em.
>>73706581692.2m without ya, salty tendie. Wolverine is not going to be on PC btw.
>>737065898>Implying I give two fucks about capeshitlol
>>737056639Why would eBay deny itself a 25% cut of every scalped PS6?
>>737045119steamcharts humiliated sony pc releases. nobody is buying that crap lol
>>737065898>Wolverine is not going to be on PC btw
>>737066103>>737066014GTA 6 will not be on PC, neither will Saros or Gran Turismo 7!!
>>737044657I mean that's a given? The more interesting part for me will be to see if PS4 games are finally 60 since most were left at 30 on the PS5 and if PS3 games are still streamed.With the hardware all PS3 and PS4 gen games should run at high res/60-120fps, otherwise I don't see the point. It'll just be another modern AAA games only machine.
>>737044657Imagine them using this as a slogan or a promotional feature in the future and then announce there is no disc drive. The reception would be hilarious to blow up in their faces.I can play PlayStation 1 games on PlayStation 5 currently. But that doesn't mean its backwards compatible. It just means those games are on the PlayStation Market Place through a digital service. Buying your old game catalogue again gradually is not backwards compatibility, its extortion for nostalgia.
>>737066169GTA6 will never release at this rate lol
>>737044857So you admit PS5 didn't?
>>737066245Marketing begins this Summa!
>>737044857>
>>737066169>GTA 6 will not be on PCWhere have I heard that before?https://youtu.be/k9l6Z8wslsI?si=-w-_Z_uYkty6qW4K>SAARoslol
>>737061879The PS5 is capable of playing PS3 games natively, Sony just didn't care about back compat/older games this gen.
another truly high IQ thread
>>737044857yeah barely.Vidya's been pretty downhill since 8th gen.
>>737054850>PS5 approaching EoL only has 1/3 the titles of the PS4Pretty sad desu fampai
>there are people on /v/ who are excited to play Female God of War, the bald woman game, saars, and hag Jean Grey's gameYikes.
>>737066669nice 6s but they're not actually going to play those games. They just like to rub their shit in people's face, as if anyone actually cares. Astro Bot's an actual game yet no one here seems to have played it.
>>737056142You proved him correct. Good job.
>>737044657Almost all the PS5 games I own are PS4 upgrades. I only own ONE PS5 game I own is also on PC. Owning a PS5 has been a massive waste of money and I won't be picking up a PS6 regardless of them not making PC ports anymore. One game is not enough to sell a console.
>>737044657>>a PC is expected to support backward compatibility with previous PCs and PCs gamesWOW OMG WOW
>>737065816If it makes you feel better, they're working to bring Japan Studio's spirit back during the PS6 era with the handheld being a huge factor in that. Herman Hulst is rumored to be "fired" Phil Spencer style, meaning he's still there to finish his era out but he's no longer calling the shots. The current western crap is the last of Hulst's nonsense before Sony switches everything back to Japan. Sony's been reallocating resources from their western SIE branch to their Japan SIE branch hiring and growing their Japanese SIE for a complete takeover. Soon, Sony's movie games and live-service trash will be a thing of the past, and the types of games we got with the PS1-early PS4, including their gameplay-focused, quirky, and family-friendly western games and franchises they abandoned. They also plan to bring back a lot of their Japanese first-party series and franchises they abandoned as well. Sony has pivoted to optimization and efficiency to keep Nintendo and Valve from pushing them out of the gaming market.
>>737044731Of courseIt's using the power... OF THE RAM
>>737066356Good thing the shitty westerner got booted for a Japanese man and they care about it again given Nintendo Switch Online and Steam backlogs.
>>737067258>the same board room that allowed Concord, Marathon, Fairgame$, and Horizons will totally bring back the soul trust meYou're getting more movies and price hikes and little else
>>737044657Yeah, it's pretty easy now that those damn things just use off the shelf PC hardware which has been backwards compatible all the way back to the original IBM PC. No need for emulation, you just need some compatibility layer for the software. Come back when you fuckers can actually mod your games on the hardware you supposedly own. Maybe then I'll be impressed.
>>737044657> a x86 computer running a freebsd-based operating system is backwards compatible with... an x86 computer running a similar freebsd-based operating system.> be surpriedWhy are consolefags like this?
>>737044657Will I be able to play my disc games on it?
>>737067605With the $400 Disk Addon, sure...Goy, you're not meant to own things anymore, did you not see the writing on the wall? You will buy "licenses" and when we close the store, you will lose everything you thought you had.
>>737067258I do not believe you for a single fucking second
>>737067442Astro Bot made them start questioning why they were making all that other shit instead of making games like this.>>737068142It's happening, my friend, have hope. They're not Microsoft.
Didn't buy Piss 5Not buying Piss 6
>>737045280yeah, there are the cucked snoyggers like you with us.
>>737049780based
>>737068554>Astro Bot made them start questioning why they were making all that other shit instead of making games like thisthen they saw the sales numbers and remembered what their audiences is now. PS fans are programmed for cinematic experiences only. Astro Bot's too much of a game for them.
>>737067489because companies like to not put it in, or completely remove compatability.
>>737044657OkSo now we make threads repeating one line of some post. Ok. Low effort.
Yeah and basically any other console like the xbox or the steam machine can also play the overwhelming majority of ps3, ps2, ps1, psp and vita games. You'll be able to play bloodborne at 4k60 with enhancements on an xbox than you can on a ps6. Think about that for a second.
>>737046921I still can't believe that Sony tried to pass off a SSD as their system's super tech. They genuinely had retards acting like PS5 games would only be able to run on a PS5 because of its super SSD and that not even normal SSDs would be able to run them
>>737068679Those sales don't matter if those games cost too damn much to make. Rumor is they no longer give a shit about Microsoft and their Xbox anymore, they're focused on Nintendo and Valve now and see that Microsoft's blow billions on AAA slop is a detriment.
>>737044657>dumbshits itt think Sony is going to release a PS6 and not compete with Valve by making their own proprietary OS that doubles as a personal computer to compete with the PC market and use PSN to compete with the likes of Steam and Epic Games.>thinking releasing a PS6 would make any sort of business sense in today's gaming landscapeAnd I thought you retards were at least a tad bit smart. A new console like the PlayStation 6 will bleed them a shit ton of money, but not bankrupt them. The market is shifting towards PC gaming. There's a chance that they will return the PSP and have it be compatible with games both old and new and will eat away at the Nintendo Switch 2's sales. Why do you think Microsoft is considering on pulling the plug on the XBox?tl;dr - there will be no PS6 and OP is a fag.
>>737056529hol up....
>>737056571then buy PC or steam machine/deck to play PS2 games.
>>737068907They won't, PS6 is a console. Next war is the niche ecosystem war, a war Microsoft and their Xbox won't be a part of. It's Nintendo vs Sony vs Valve now, the new big three.
>>737067258I believe some of what you said for several minutes.
>>737069034If Nintendo decides to port their games to Steam/Valve, it is over for Sony. INSTANT DEATH.
>>737068907>>737069034You forgot someone.
>>737069496heh kino
what the fuck? that can't be right? is chatgpt hallucinating?
>>737044657I'd rather get this new console.>>737069496Or maybe even this.
>>737069691well, it is correct. lmao
>>737069691>Destruction All-Stars was quietly shutdown
>>737069483Neither will do that because it's the era of niches. Nintendo won, Sony won, Valve won, they're just making stable fortress that can never be toppled. Microsoft lost, their plan to take over console and PC gaming with an iron fist since 2001 has failed and they no longer have a place in gaming. Their bullshit will start to get reverse the more irrelevant they become.
>>737044657ID verification is good to ban any retard that cites MLID as a source for anything
Why do they keep doing this? All the good playstation games are on PS1/2/3.
>>737066974It's the most gimped pc you'll ever come across because the hardware can easily emulate older gens just fine but sony love charging high prices for barebones support. Even an xbox is better.
>>737070584Not him, but what retard gets an Xbox over Steam Hardware? Don't call yourself a console or PC gamer if you shill for Xbox. Xbox, since 2001, damaged both the console and PC industries making video games shit. Gaming was better before Xbox even existed. In know universe or timeline is Xbox the best option over anything, I'll choose death over ever owning another Xbox again.
>>737070773*no known
There is NO excuse for all consoles to not be backwards compatible with ALL games on ALL of that company's previous consoles.
>>737070773Even valve doesn't value their own operating system over windows. Windows always wins. Sony have already lost to windows a long time ago.
>>737044657[good news] ps6 will be a ps5
>>737054850Impressive, very nice...Lets see Nintendos list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games
>>737070883>There is NO excuse for all consoles to not be backwards compatible with ALL games on ALL of that company's previous consoles.PS2 Emotion Engine and PS3 CELL were nightmares for programmers. the only people who actually got to use it to its full potential were Naughty Dog. People also forget that the reason Sony was so insistent on pushing their custom in the PS2 and PS3 was because they had plans to license out the Emotion Engine and Cell technology for other uses beyond video game consoles.Kutaragi wanted the PS3 to ship with 1 cell as a cpu and 1 cell as a gpu. Mark Cerny is fucking insane for STILL having only himself know exactly how the PS3 worked and never sharing it with anyone aside from those secret CELL developers at Sony.They were either falling behind in development, or realized that this was utter fucking stupidity, so they went plan B and asked Nvidia to give PS3's GeForce 7800 was also kind of old, being a pre-unified shaders design that was absolutely obsoleted within a year of the console's release by the 8800, bolted it on, and shipped it. PS3- 1 Core Cell PPC / 6SPE with 7800GT graphicsMark Cerny wanted PS4, PS5, PS6 and PS7 to be AMD APUs because it was cheapest and easiest for programmers. any optimizations done for PS4 will just help PC get further ahead. ps4 and ps5 are both x86-64FX-8350 @2GHz, a HD 7850 and a 5000 RPM hard drive are roughly equivalent to a PS4.Ryzen 7 3700X and an RX5700 which are roughly equivalent to a PS5. Sony has the Tempest audio engine and the Kraken compression blocks. PS5 SSD read speed 5,558MB.
>but not PS3I hate that I have to go and get a PS3 again to play my old game library. There's a lot of good games stuck on the PS3 and I don't just mean exclusives, but multiplat games that were never ported to PS4 either.
>>737046008>didn't exclude games that were also on other systems
>>737044657Any bluray player is also capable of that. The difference is you get a disk drive with that.
>>737072019RPCS3 is good now
>>737071950Bro wrote a whole autism essay without even knowing sony wanted the ps4 to be nvidia
>>737072019>>737072102PS3 was too hard for Mark Cerny so he told devs to port those games to PS4
>>737044657Didn't PS5 just come out a few years ago?
>>737070883>hardware standards have not changed at all since the 90sBased retard. Programming has gone from 16bit to 32 to 64 and sony was also stupid enough to use RISC which no one outside of ARM even knows how to code for. Non of these things are inherently compatible with each other.
>>737044657>"thing that has been the standard for PlayStation will likely happen again!">"LEAK!">"via MLID"Oh cool so a guy who has been wrong multiple times but makes wild ass guesses an we're supposed to care. Fuck off OP.
>>737056529>Scalpers will pre-order and buy en mass just like they did with the PS5That was a sony hoax to create fake scarcity to make gamers want to buy it which they didn't
>>737054981Rise of the RoninThat's it
>>737044697>Uhhhh Gran Turismo Sport and 7!>Uhh uhhhh, eeeeeh>Oh and Bloodboner remaster!
>>737072170Mark cerny admitted that they designed the ps3 to be hard to use on purpose and only their own devs got all the documentation because they wanted the first party games to be the best looking. It was a retarded idea and cerny has always been a hack. The ps4 and ps5 are all thanks to amd because the consoles use mostly standardised components.
>>737044657>with PS4 and PS5 gamesMan thats sad.And People defending these garbageconsoles...
>>737044657>>737044697KEKOnly opened this thread to make the same joke
>>737044697>tfw sonybros will still be playing bloodborne in 2029 on their $1000+ PS6 at sub 30FPS
>>737071507Windows is fine, but Microsoft can shove their unified GDK up their ass.
>>737072679and pretty standardized games. maybe Cerny wasnt a hack after all
>>737073364>and pretty standardized games. maybe Cerny wasnt a hack after allAMD create the hardware. They don't create the software
>>737044657>HAS FULL BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY>...but no disc drive>and PS4 games will be removed from the store
>>737073138Having devs optimize better for windows will always be a benefit.
>>737071950Actually PS5 is closer to a 6700 retard.
assuming this is true, they are forced to do so, because there is no games for it otherwise. this is a ps4 pro 3.0 at best. seriously. the ps5 had no system seller, yet retards everywhere still bought it for some mystifying reason. consumers get more compliant with each generation, its a status thing at this point.
>>737073102actually bloodborne is solid 30fps on ps5>>737073364cerny didnt make ps3
>>737044657What?! An x86 AMD APU running modified FreeBSD system is going to be backward compatible with x86 AMD APU running modified FreeBSD systems?!!!! No fucking way.
>>737047116Bloodborne, Death Stranding (till you got sloppy seconds, mustard race), Driveclub, GT Sport (best racing game ever made), Gravity Rush Remastered and 2, P.T. (a mere demo influencing and shaping up the horror game market for the near future), Last Guardian. implying the PS4 had nothing to offer is just ignorant.
>>737073561It's not meant for Windows, it's meant for Helix. You want to know why Microsoft games run like shit, this is why. They will gimp every game that comes to Switch 2, PS6, and Steam just to push their flatlining Helix trash. Most devs will ignore GDK for Windows, PlayStation, and Switch. Microsoft, since the Xbox, simply can't help themselves to ruining everything. I really hate the Xbox.
If it's compatible with PS1, PS2, PS3 and Vita titles, comes with a handheld tablet, can do laundry and have sex with me then I'll buy it !
>>737044657So what will the gimmick be this time? Last time it was the "magic" ssd that could load games faster than a high end pc which turned out to be a massive load of shit.
>>737073920>something that wasn't exclusive, a 30fps racing game, GT7 Prologue, a remaster and a demoHoly shit, you don't remember how bad the PS4 was until someone tries to defend it and THAT'S the best they could come up with.
>PS+ starts costing $10 more a month a few months prior to PS6, to subsidize the launch price
>>737075890>So what will the gimmick be this time? Last time it was the "magic" ssd that could load games faster than a high end pc which turned out to be a massive load of shit.PS5 is 5.5Gbs SSD standardized for the casuals.The PS4, PS5, and PS6 are essentially just budged AMD PCs for casuals. They won't come close to an 7950X3D, 9850X3D, or 9950X3D, and beyond. Reminder that Microsoft started this trend. Xbox and Xbox 360 were marketed as cheap PCs that played the latest games.
>>737077823The ps5 ssd was snake oil because games dont need more than like 2gb/s at most. There are tons of tests on this shit. Sony would've been better off saving money on the ssd and putting it into a better cpu or gpu.
>>737078689>The ps5 ssd was snake oil because games dont need more than like 2gb/s at mostWhat makes you say that?
>>737078704>CD player that's as reliable as the PS4'sPS4 can't play Audio CDs>My laptop can watch some movies that aren't region-locked but will crash halfway through, because the software is a piece of shit.Use MPV or MPC-HC
>>737078784The cheap mechanical drive in his computer.
>>737077823>Reminder that Microsoft started this trend. Xbox and Xbox 360 were marketed as cheap PCs that played the latest games.Truth>Its hardware includes an Intel Pentium III CPU and an Nvidia GeForce 3-based GPU>The Xbox API was similar to DirectX version 8.1, developed jointly between Microsoft and Nvidia>Halo had DOT3 bump mapping technology and per-pixel lighting too>Doom 3 co-op mode>Geforce-specific features that some games utilize. A notable example is the shadows in Splinter Cell>Much of Xbox OS is powered by Windows >Dolby Digital 5.1The Xbox hardware was also quite advanced for its release date (2001). Many PCs at the time still had 100MHz FSB but the Xbox ran at 133MHz. The Xbox also had DDR RAM, not much of it (64MB), but DDR wouldn't be commonplace until the Pentium 4 and Athlon XP platforms a couple years later. Most PCs were still running regular single-channel SDRAM.
>>737075890>which turned out to be a massive load of shit.I still can't load Spider-Man 2 faster than a PS5 on my PC w/ a 7800X3D, 5070TI, and 990 Pro. The problem with PS5's hardware decryption is the game has to directly support it, otherwise PC (and Series X) will beat it in every case.I haven't seen too many games make use it on PS5 outside of 1st-party releases for some fucking reason, which is retarded because it vastly makes the game feel better when load times basically don't exist.
>>737078852Thanks.My main issue with PC is having to deal with Windows desu.
>>737078784There are tests online showing pcie gen 3 ssd are identical to pcie gen 5 in games loading and performance. I think even the xbox has a like 2.5gb/s ssd. You can put a pcie gen 3 speed ssd into a ps5 and it works fine in tests done by digital foundry years back. Just proves the "power of the ssd" was a let down and didnt pan out like sony wanted it to.
>>737078994>I still can't load Spider-Man 2 faster than a PS5 on my PC w/ a 7800X3D, 5070TI, and 990 Pro. The problem with PS5's hardware decryption is the game has to directly support it, otherwise PC (and Series X) will beat it in every case.Doesn't matter if the PC version doesn't support DirectStorage (it doesn't) and the PS5 does. So the PS5 is the only one actually using that speed, the PC version doesn't at all. The PS5 has a huge advantage of being developed around SSD. Unlike PC, PS5 uses fixed/standard hardware that the game can be specifically optimized for. This isn't a PC vs PS5 war. They're both using the same Ryzen hardware. It's a dev issue.
>>737078994Then you have a bugged system because it takes 3-4 seconds at most on pc with the initial load and I have the game on ps5 its basically the same.
>>737079446Spiderman 2 supports direct storage on pc
>>737044657>compatibility sure why not? it shouldnt be such big deal anymore since they are all just linux pc in a box
>>737079446>Doesn't matter if the PC version doesn't support DirectStorage (it doesn't)Spider-Man 2 does infact support DirectStorage on PC.>The PS5 has a huge advantage of being developed around SSD.I just wish any actual game took real advantage of it beyond "Load screens are shorter". We could have asset streaming be highly aggressive with SSDs to allow for less VRAM to be used for shit well outside of the camera frustrum, or have more LOD variations to smoothen the transitions (especially on fucking trees) since you wouldn't need to load every individual LOD mesh into memory at once.That Ratchet & Clank release would have been impressive if there wasn't any blatant loading tunnels between the areas that it demos early on, for example, and doing it in a manner where you couldn't say "Well they could have just preloaded the next area ahead of time that sits out of bounds in this current location".
>>737044692cállate un rato aweonao
>>737079548What are the best SSDs right now?
>>737079727>>737079446What are the most technically impressive PS5 games?
>>737079756doesnt matter, because you dont have money for current prices
>>737079802If we're talking purely graphics and not loading shanenigans, probably the Demons Souls remake? Creative liberty discussions aside, it is STUPIDLY detailed.
>>737079446>The PS5 has a huge advantage of being developed around SSD. Unlike PC, PS5 uses fixed/standard hardware that the game can be specifically optimized for.One of the dumbest things I've read on this board this year. The ssd is so irrelevant that we don't talk about anymore. Not even shills talk about it as a ps5 selling point anymore because it's all a gimmick. It doesnt matter how fast or slow your storage is if thats not the bottleneck, and it isnt. The ps5 cpu and gpu are always the limitation.
>>737044657Let me guess, another console that will last 6 years in an era where game take 8 years to develop so it will get only a handful of games made by people anybody cares about with about a 75% miss rate. Literally what reason is there to care about consoles anymore? Console releases just don't make sense in the modern era of gaming.
>>737077823>>737079446>>737080037Don't forget that Valve Claims Steam Machine Outperforms 70% of Current Gaming PCshttps://www.techpowerup.com/342970/valve-claims-steam-machine-outperforms-70-of-current-gaming-pcsA lot of PC gaming gets done on 8GB GPUs and 5400 RPM HDDs
>>737080062>Literally what reason is there to care about consoles anymore?>Console releases just don't make sense in the modern era of gaming.Consoles are plenty popular in the west. Chinese sales seem more prevalent on PC because they ONLY game on PC due to consoles being banned for nearly 2 decades until recently(and all their consoles are region locked with no games even if the consoles are region free everywhere else) so that's why Steam Charts will show China as the majority of players for a game while Americans are buying those games on Switch/PS5/Xbox instead of just on PC.
>>737080150Kinda misleading because most of those people with weak pc's are happy with them because they probably don't play demanding games and certainly not at 4k. The steam machine is supposed to be a 4k capable pc with only 8gb vram when some games at 1080p and definitely at 1440p are starting to see vram limitations with 8gb. It'll probably be fine but some people are expecting miracles from hardware thats is equivalent to low end laptop hardware from like 3-5 years ago.
>>737080150>A lot of PC gaming gets done on 8GB GPUs and 5400 RPM HDDsthe overwhelming majority of consolecucks are on hardware way worse than the ps5
>>737044657Great! Now the PS6 will have gam-checks notesOh wait, this adds a grand total of zero games to the system>"B-But Bloodborne!"On PC and running much better than ps4 and ps5, most likely better than what the ps6 is gonna manage
>>737044657Still no games then, grim.
>>737079756Western Digital Black is good, dunno about best.
>>737072250Wonder if 128 bits will ever be a standard or if the downside of not running 32 bit programs will be too much
>>737080768Basically this. It's a dev issue, not a hardware issue>"B-But Bloodborne!"Miyazaki left Sony for Nintendo
>>737080037>The ssd is so irrelevant that we don't talk about anymore.Meanwhile we had mutliple threads in the past here regarding people bitching about games on Steam mandating SSD.....
>>737054850How is emulation doing? How big percentage of those can be played in an emulator?I don't even think all PS3 games can be emulated 99% reliable yet.
>>737080459I don't think I've seen any game at 1080p exceed 8gb VRAM properly that isn't a UE5 title, or Cyberpunk on RT overdrive. The only other thing I remember is the REmake4 crashes that pointed to a VRAM error, but ended up being the fault of Intel's infamous 13th/14th-gen CPUs.
>>737081046It's unsurprising, given how well Nintendo treats its exclusivesLooking back, I think From Software and Nintendo are extremely compatible companies, not in a sense that I think all From Software titles going forwards need to be Switch 2 exclusive, but if From eventually wants to make an exclusive game for a given platform, Nintendo is the obvious choice, Nintendo is extremely strong in the japanese market and From's games are a hit over there, not only that, but Nintendo, unlike Sony, favors actual games instead of GaaS slop and Movie Games slop
>>737044869You have to understand, the concept of backwards compatibility being a given is something very fresh and novel for Snoygers as they had three generations of custom architectures so fucktarded they needed the previous gen console to be physically present on the next gen console and that physical backwards compatibility only existed for the initial release revisions.Meanwhile my x86-64-v3 PC has backwards compatibility spanning over decades worth of software that I can execute, natively or otherwise.
>>737081046ReminderSony were planning to buy Fromsoft but after the head of PlayStation at the time saw Demon's Souls gameplay he thought the game will be a huge flop and they decided against the purchasethe way shuhei yoshida shat on the original game is unreal>完成間近の段階でDemon’s Soulsを2時間ほどプレーしたが、2時間後にもプレーを開始した時と全く同じ場所に立ったままだった。>「これは駄目だ。信じられないほど酷いゲームだ」と感じて、プレーを止めてしまったよ。>I played an almost finalized version of the game for about 2 hours, but 2 hours after having started playing I was still standing there at the same location.>"This is terrible. It's an incredibly awful game.", I thought to myself, and stopped playing.then he ended up regretting it>From subsequently went off to Bandai for DaS and it became a legitimately mainstream hit on the PS3 and 360, Yoshida approached Miyazaki, admitted he was wrong and commissioned From to collaborate with Japan Studio again for Bloodborne>Demon’s Soulsの欧米販売を見送ったのは今世代最大の失態だった>missing out on publishing Demon's Souls in the US and Europe was our biggest mistake ever this gen>The game’s asynchronous messaging system and the ability to learn from other players’ mistakes helped inspire the Share button on the PS4 controller, Yoshida saidIt's also worth mentioning that the last we heard from Miyazaki was>Sources state that Miyazaki and many of the seniors at From resented the Demon's Souls remake as they felt it was not true to the spirit of the original game. It is also stated by sources close to Miyazaki that he had also disliked the fact the studio had remade Shadow of the Colossus, which he felt was disrespectful to the work of Fumito Ueda whom he has previously cited as his biggest influence in game design Now Miyazaki wants to join up with Nintendo
>>737081458>Meanwhile my x86-64-v3 PC has backwards compatibility spanning over decades worth of software that I can execute, natively or otherwise.Based AMD
>>737044657>6 is expected to support back>with PS4/5 gamesNo shit. That's easy as pie to do. Now a backwords compatibility with PS3, 2 and 1? Well, that's what the players really want.
>>737080992>Wonder if 128 bits will ever be a standardthe average user with 32gb of ram is only 0.0000002% of the way there to max out the 64 bit ram limitit's literally never going to happen given how silicon isn't getting any cheaper to make now>or if the downside of not running 32 bit programs will be too much32 bit shit is already running through compatibility layers
I'm not even going to bother with a PS6 if it won't run my PS3 games. My current PC can, so I don't see any excuse why a company with the ACTUAL SPECS TO THE HARDWARE can't do an emulator/translation layer themselves.
>>737081667>if it won't run my PS3 gamesWhat PS3 games do you want that aren't already playable on PS5?
>>737081768I just have a large physical PS3 library that I wouldn't mind dusting off at some time. Anything actually exclusive I have an itch for I already just ripped and put on RPCS3, like Motrstorm Pacific Rift w/ the 60fps patch. Tokyo Jungle absolutely needs a port off of PSN though.
>>737079446>>737079602Fun Fact.>HDD: 75 MB/s, if that>SATA SSD: 300 - 600 MB/s>NVMe: 3000 - 7000 MB/sPS4 has SATA II connectors. PS4 Pro has SATA III connectors which supports solid-state drives up to 600 MB/s, but uses a 5400RPM SATA II.
>>737081768NTA but Demon's Souls.
>>737081952You're smoking crack if you think theyre gonna let you play physical PS3 games on a PS6
>>737081768Underage Panty Quest from back when we were allowed to have panties
>>737082004>NVMe: 3000 - 7000 MB/sthat speed isn't ever happening in actual gamesthey're not even that much faster than actual sata ssds
>>737082009Sony doesn't want you to play the original Demon's Souls tho, they want you to play the remake, even if they somehow by a miracle make something like Nintendo does of giving players libraries of old console games, they will make sure not to include the original DeS, because they want you to play the new one
>>737082056They're going to charge me extra to have a blu-ray drive, they better fucking let me.
>>737081549I'm on Alder Lake, technically a x86-64-v4 as it has AVX-512, but still, good ol' Intel x86 with AMD's 64-bit extensions, backwards compatibility up the nose. I love this platform.
>>737082173>that speed isn't ever happening in actual games>they're not even that much faster than actual sata ssdsWhy aren't games using those speeds?
>>737081054Dumbass, the speed doesnt matter. Actually a lot of games with nvme ssd requirements run on slower drives but they're slower as expected. As for nvme it doesnt matter which one you have whether its a 2.5gbs gen 3 or 14gbs gen 5 drive it makes no difference in games. It doesnt make your gpu or cpu any less shit in the case of the ps5. The "power of the ssd" isnt going to save the ps5 pro from dropping to 30 fps in the 1080p performance mode.
>>737044657>still no ps3 backwards compatibility Theres literally no fucking reason either. Its the same FUCKING BLU RAY DISC
>>737082004Ps4 uses a usb to sata bridge internally
>>737082387 Sata 2 bandwidth: 3Gb/sSata 3 bandwidth: 6Gb/sUSB 3.0 bandwidth 5Gb/s
>>737082178There's Dark Souls 1 Remastered and BB which are close enough. It's somewhat healthy to forget older games because it leads to new artists not having to compete with all the classics.
>>737080832So just like Nintendo
>>737082290because gaming doesn't involve reading those massive continuous files where that speed actually manifestsyou're reading random chunks of it
>>737081496Nobody gives a fuck. You are mad that you can’t play Demons souls remake.
>>737082378>literally no fucking reasonPS3 had a super special snowflake custom PowerPC derivative that was so notoriously difficult to work with even back then that game devs had issues porting their shit to the PS3, with a good example of that being how downgraded RDR1 was on the PS3 compared to the X360. The latter still used a custom PowerPC chip but it was much closer to spec and also Microsoft gave their devs API's like DirectX to work with instead of going fuck you, figure out this shit yourself.Again, remember, the backwards compatibility in the PS1>PS2>PS3 lineage was realized by physically putting the CPU and GPU of the previous gen console on the motherboard. That's how badly Snoy was complicating shit for themselves and the devs. By the PS4 they finally realized Microsoft had the right idea going with x86 on the OG Xbox and did the same for the PS4.
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>>737082320>Dumbass, the speed doesnt matter.It does when developers stop caching ahead in their game because "Everyone has an SSD", which leads to regular stutters on older drives.
>>737082378PS3 hardware is way to different, to make it compatible, you have either to include a "small" PS3 inside the PS6 or software emulate it.and we know that RPCS3 has been developed for over 10 years and still runs like shit, a emulator developed by sony wouldn't be much better.
>>737082636Oh, well fuck.
>>737082441>There's Dark Souls 1 RemasteredBro?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlvOzgm1CJg
>>737082750The nvme speed doesn't matter
>>737046008thousands of ~exclusive~ games? ...though so.
>>737082958and yet you will buy non exclusives on your favorite console
>>737044697spbp. op absolutely destroyed
>>737082201They won't, so don't buy
>>737083919They lost a sale in that case, because I highly doubt a PS6 will outperform my current PC, and I don't want to go back to FSR ever again at the rate the current TAA trends are going.
>>737084081Same, I currently run an rtx 4080 + ryzen 7800x and I feel pretty safe that I'm gonna outperform the ps6, so I don't feel the need to even consider the idea of getting one
>>737044697SPBP
>>737044657>The PS6 is expected to support consoles with no gamesGrim
>>737045119>stopping portingYa dun goof'd
>>737066369*6th gen
>>737082845Same voice lines, same soundtrack. The graphic changes are too subtle to notice.
>>737046458>(via streaming)
>>737044731I still laugh whenever I remember all those retards hyping up some no brand nvme as a game changer when PCs had them for years. at the end the 5 still wasn't a 4k capable machine and some games don't even hit 60fps. imagine being a snoynigger post PS2, their last GOOD console
>>737044697OH NONONON OP HAVING A MELTY!!! AAAAAA
>>737084081Absolutely correct. My only compromise at this point is Bloodborne 2 and even then, I'm skeptical
