If Nintendo did this, would they go out of business or is that an exaggeration? Imagine they only ported almost decade old games, BOTW, Mario Odyssey.
The brand would definitely suffer, and it would affect sales of new games because you will always think of "eventually...".You would also kill a lot of your brainwashed maniacs, so the long-term loss would be greater, I believe.
nintendo has the same trash core values as apple, artificial scarcity, never ever concede anything since once you give an inch youll never be able to overprice anything again.
>>737054568Nutendo is too anticonsumer to do anything but wring out as many cents from you as possible
>>737054568They would quadruple their income, and reduce piracy by half.Even Sony realized this a decade ago... but now they decided to retreat from this free money-printing cashcow and push for "more shitty exclusives!", simply to have even more power over their whale tribalists.
>>737055523i heard their latest ports weren't selling
>>737054568why would they give valve 30% for free
>>737055789>port nothing but dogshit, none of the titles fans have asked for>"Why isn't it selling?"300IQ moves
>>737055084I don't see how this wouldn't just be wringing out more cents >>737055056>m-m-MUH ARTIFICIAL SCARCITYand that's how you prevent your business from reaching new customers
>>737054568the death of the console is the death of video games
pc gamers do not spend moneysony learned this the hard way
>>737055789>i heard their latest ports weren't sellingGee--- it's like releasing universally panned AAA movie slop (most of it UE5 trash to boot) for 90 fucking dollars onto a market with 10,000 games dropping each year would be a STUPID idea.Also, Death Stranding floppen on Playstation, but became a smash hit on PC. In other words: just make GOOD GAMES, bro.
>>737056096the pc ports were bait so you could feel more compelled to buy it on their console
>>737055912If you're a big publisher, Valve takes a smaller cut.
>>737054568If they port their games they can't sell their consoles.
>>737054568Their games would sell astronomically, but for those who are willing to wait, it teaches them to not care for Nintendo's consoles or console releases in the moment and instead hold out for the eventual PC port 8+ years later.
>>737056174It is artificial scarcity. BOTW and TOTK do not have features or gameplay that justify them being exclusives. You would have had an argument for skyward sword or spirit tracks, unironically. Kill yourself braindead corpo drone. Die
>>737054568What percentage of gamers that play on Nintendo also own a PC? I think its higher than most people think. Because if you are the type of person that games as a hobby, PC is obviously the most cost effective long term. At the same time, exclusive games of the caliber that Nintendo is capable of making are attractive to hardcore gamers. Therefore, I think moving to PC would significantly harm their hardware sales in the long term.
>>737054568They would probably still be successful but I would stop buying their consoles. I’d just wait and buy them on PC. That gives them a lot less control over their business. I think that’s a hugely overlooked aspect about Nintendo as a company. Put another way, there are plenty of huge developers on primarily on PC. Blizzard, Bethesda, Riot, Valve, and so on. None of those companies have IPs that feed global merchandising empires and theme parks and shit like that.
>>737054568Well even if they did put their games on pc they'd make their own launcher before giving Gabe a cent.
>>737054568>the company that makes a profit selling consoles and sells tens of million copies of its games should release games on steam so it could make a fee million more dollars.Eh...
>>737054568>Zelda games release on PC>People discover its just cartoon Skyrim>modding turns every Zelda game into dark hardcore roguelikes full of lewd modsI think Nintendo is right to protect their brand
>>737057434People already do all this on emulators since forever
>>737057572yeah but its not officially sanctioned.
>>737057803No shit sherlock that's what modding is.
>>737054568They wouldn't go out of business but their consoles would sell significantly less. >>737055523It would probably reduce their income overall. They profit off of console sales and the Switch 1 is on track to beating the PS2 (with no price cut btw). Putting their games on PC would cut into console sales a lot, which would also cut into subscription revenue, all for their highest profile games to sell maybe an extra 5-10 mil at most.
>>737057896Starfield would disagree with you. Bethesda prepared the modding scene ahead of time to make sure their incoming dogshit would have a seemingly organic community attached to it from day one.The shift towards modders' discords across video games have also reduced the once inherently transgressive nature of the hobby. While its not the case for every game yet, the biggest ones seem to trend in this direction.
>>737054568no one would buy it because botw owes its popularity to nintendo players living in a bubble while pc players have had better open world games and better nuts-n-boltslikes for a decade+ before this came out
>>737058593This is just false
If they ported games to PC they'd have three layers of DRM running 24/7 and checking every frame.It wouldn't be out of incompetence but malice.
>Make a game good enough that someone buys the $450 console and the $70 game. Almost all money goes back to you.>Just put it on PC where people will either complain about prices, start flipping cheap keys, or pirate it outright. After Valve's cut you get about $50 per sale.Gee, which one makes more sense for the company with the most recognizable and beloved franchises in video games?
>>737054568They would quickly see the pc market is nonexistent and boils down to a vocal minority online plus millions of Chinese steam bots then drop out of it just like Sony did
>>737056706i doubt that many. Nintendo fans don't seem like people who are in the PC ecosystem. When 3rd party games get ported to Switch 2, they act as if it's the first time they could play it, like FFVII Remake
There is a german saying in german"Perlen vor die Säue"translates into"Pears for the pigs"Its literally this situation. To explain further for dumb US-Americans:Pc-players are the pigs and the pearls are Nintendo games
>>737055084go back to resetera disgusting leftist faggot
>>737059802I'm also an ESL and I know that pearls before swine is a saying in English, dumboIt's literally in the bible
>>737056552yeah anon maybe try reading the thread over again you absolute fucking retardnobody was doubting that it's artificial scarcity, the doubt was about whether artificial scarcity actually works
>>737059450the only things that still interact with ""consoles"" in the modern day are subhumans
No, despite all the clout pc gamers swing around on the internet, its not a good market. Pc gamers are cheapasses. Nintendo gamers are the prime audiance largest install base and most willing to actually shovel out premium prices for games.
>>737059658Maybe the hardcore tendies are like that, but most hobbyist gamers tend to have consoles as a supplement to their PC. Nintendo seems to be the most common supplement console for PC users
>>737059269Might make some sense if Nintendo didn't pull the "no play old game, just remember" stunt
>>737054974You're acting as if games haven't already suffered the fate of "eventually system X will be emulated", at least this time it puts money into Nintendo's pocket
>>737055789No, they are just selling fine all things considered. The issue is that Sony still treats the PC like an unwanted child that shouldn't exist by porting everything years later when interest completely died down, but then expects sales numbers on par with the original console release. They are simply retarded, nothing more to it.
>>737058325>They profit off of console salesThey don't.ALL console manufacturers sell consoles on a loss, and make up with subscriptions + game sales.Meanwhile, PC has > 1 billion potential users.
>>737060839Not equivalent. People who use emulators of any kind are not even 0.1% of people who use Steam.
>>737061327Now how many of those potential users are actually running rigs good enough to play the games. Or are even looking to play games in the first place. One perk of consoles, especially modern ones, you know exactly how many are in use, what people are actually playing. Etc.
>>737054568keep dreaming steamies, it's never gonna happengo ahead and keep begging for rom dumps so you can use your shitty outdated emulators for an inferior experience
>>737061574>Now how many of those potential users are actually running rigs good enough to play the games.Anywhere from 130 to 290 Million, taking into account PC-only Steam and EPIC accounts.And don't be silly. Literal 2017 tier PC specs can emulate Switch 1 shit, and Shitch 2 literally has a mobile Nvidia RTX 3050 chip.>One perk of consoles, especially modern ones, you know exactly how many are in use, what people are actually playing.You're pretending like such data would not be available for PCs as well.Games like PUBG peaked at > 1 billion daily players at its peak. And that was pre-Corona; practically ancient history these days.You're also pretending like most console players would not only play 1 or 2 games each year, and buy everything 2nd hand or on sale. Or just pirate everything, like was the case on Xbox 360, Wii, PSP and DS.
>>737054568I thought /v/ said BOTW and Mario Odyssey were trash and overrated games, why would you want to purchase them at full price on Steam so badly?
>>737054568This would mean I basically never play an unmodded Nintendo game ever, and since the japs think modding a game is a crime, this would never happen. But if it did, I would mod them all.
>>737062270>shitty outdated emulators for an inferior experienceDon't mind me, just playing "your" game at 240p, ultrawide, 4K texture patches + modern controls, natively!
>>737054568>getting more sales would mean they would go out of business?...?Huh...?
>>737062583Goddamn that looks great. You playing it on Project N64 or just PC source code leak?
>>737062583soulless
>>737054568That will never happen, keep dreaming steamie
>>737062528>why would you want to purchase them at full price on Steam so badly?Nobody said "full price", you kike.20 bucks is all you get for a 10 year old SP games.I paid 28€ for a mint, unopened WiiU copy back in 2018.>>737062597Consoliniggers only care about "muh exclusives!!", and are afraid that they'll lose their only argument if they lose their games.It's the Bloodborne effect. And before that, it was the MGSV, FFXV, TLOU, GoW... funny how all of those are Snoy games, huh?>>737062692Neither. It's the PC Decomp.
>>737060839There's a lot of pc gaming normies who think emulation is too 1337 hax0rs
>>737062793>>737062583I've been waiting for the RT mod for years. Hell OOT still hasn't been recomped, feels bad man. MM feels so damn good with proper analog camera movement.
>>737055523There’s barely any point in owning a console if not for exclusives…
>>737062583>>737062793>beginning of them game
>>737058941this poster is an example
>>737054568Even thought I'd love it, I also know that they'd make next to no sales on PC because every single one of their games would be available for piracy almost immediately.
it's like a forbidden fruitthey kill one fanbase but create another
>>737058556That's an extreme exception, nobody would've played their dogshit without mods (nobody does even with mods, bu that's besides the point). The majority of games don't support modding at all, and for those that do devs are hands-off besides providing some dev tools.
>>737054568There's literally no meaningful benefit outside of a short term bump in profits and will cause long term damage to the brand.The people that will buy Nintendo games will buy Nintendo platforms, that's the end of the matter. The mental gymnastics from Microsoft accidentally listing Xenoblade as a PC game as Nintendo probably toying from porting and not just Microslop AI generating video game lists was embarassing.
>>737055912This.Nintendo is the only publisher that could potentially give Steam a run for its money if they came out with their own PC game store.
>>737056284FLOPPEN
Why is there still a debate about this? Sony already tried it and it didn't work.Even the short-term boost in sales was hardly worth the effort.
>>737063481>Why is there still a debate about this? Sony already tried it and it didn't work.It literally quadrupled their annual income for most games. They're just salty that their 1st party casual AAA movie slop is not welcomed with open arms by the PC master race, like the game-starved Snoy piggies always do.
>>737063172Name 5 open worlds better than BotW
>>737063576You type like a fat person
it would kill them longterm because most people would realize Nintendo games aren't that special without the cultic exclusivity brainrot. Breath of the Wild is just a Ubisoft clone with weapon degradation
>>737063654You type like an indian shithole dweller with no arguments.
>>737054568People already pirate their games on PC.This would not change much.Most Nintendo fans would still buy Nintendo hardware.Only issue is that most PC users and Probably most other console users do not buy 5-10+ year old games for full price.Nintendo Pricing only really works for Nintendos closed ecosystem.
>>737063481They should have tried with actually good games, Helldivers 2 had more players on pc than on ps at some point. The only other game worth shit in their repertoire that I wish they ported is Gran Turismo 7
>>737054568>59.99lmao never
>>737062583Will never stop being relevant.
>>737060242Sorry for being rude. I was retarded
>>737063598assassins creed 1assassins creed 2assassins creed 3assassins creed 4assassins creed 5
>>737063282>nobody would've played their dogshit without modsThe overwhelming majority of people have never used mods in Bethesda games. The most popular mods invariably have a fraction as many unique downloads as their games have sold total copies.
>>737063481It didn't work because they didn't release the PC versions simultaneously with the console version.RE9 released at the same time as the PS5/Xbox/Switch versions and the PC version has sold like 3 million copies.
>>737065031All garbage
>>737054568I can already emulate those games for free.
Nintendo would be absolutely retarded to do this. And I don’t really even care for them.Their brand/business is built upon them being the ONLY way to play their headliners. They have not broken that ironclad rule since what, the CD-i games?If you’re interested in one of their games (and don’t want to/can't emulate it) you will buy their system and the game, no waiting on potential ports, because you know perfectly well it’s not getting that port. It’s how they get people into their ecosystem despite knowing full well that they have the weaker console.
>>737065815Will you actually play them thoughever?
>>737065879Most of them no, since they are outclassed by games outside the tendie bubble. Stuff like Metroid: Dread and Unicorn Overlord I did.
>>737054568No but it’d singlehanded kill their console market. See microslop as proof
>>737065601I agree, and yet still a better open world than botw
>SteamHow many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?If Nintendo ported their games to PC, they'd open their own storefront, like eShop. They would never use Steam.
>>737067485You're wrong
>>737067767no, I'm right.
>>737063180>create anotherA way smaller fanbase that's not even 1/100th as dedicated because they weren't groomed by Nintendo.>>737063669Exactly
>>737067809No, you aren't. You just hate open world games so they are all the same to you. I know your type.
>>737054568They would go out of business overnight
>>737055789Have they tried not making woke dogshit
>>737063481>doesn't release Gravity Rush or Killzone or or Bloodbourne or Little Big Planet or any exclusve I would care about>only gay lesbian movie games>they wonder why I'm not buying anythingFor what it's worth, I did buy Helldivers 2. Granted Helldivers 1 also eventually got a Steam release and HD2 got a Xbox release so I never really considered that series an exclusive. But I'm not buying your gay movie games.
>>737067916No, I just checked, I'm right. Zelda is a bottom of the barrel open world that only the most uninitiated could enjoy. Says right here.
>>737056256This.
>>737054568SOny puts all their games on Staem nowadays and they're bigger than Nintendo
I think there is a world where nintendo makes a pc game. But it wouldnt be a port. It would be something that needed to be made on pc for a logical reason. Weather its a crappy edutainment game like mario teaches typing or some kind of mmo forever game that they want to maintain for multiple console generations.
>>737068462I get it, you hate open worlds. I genuinely think that's okay. I'm curious, do you like Zelda games? Which is your favorite?
>>737068924i love open world games, this is how i know botw is shit. again, it says so right here. my favorite zelda is link to the past
>>737068597More likely just a PC port of one of their greedy mobile gamesLike if they made some kind of Smash Bros MOBA
>>737054568They don't want my money. Cool! Thanks for the free games! >>737062583>>737062793Sweet! I will check it out
>>737054568I might get modded into a real game instead of a glorified tech demo.
>>737069197Nintendo owns Pokemon, right? And there's Pokemon Go. So in a way they have made products off platform on the mobile market. But they haven't gone full in on the PC market. Makes me wonder why they even care about something like Pal world when they aren't even on the PC.
>>737068597Mario Maker would be big on PC.
>>737069331Nintendo owns only a 3rd of PokémonIt's why Gamefreak pretty much holds the license hostage when it comes to main games and spin-offs
>>737054568This would sell like fucking hotcakes, let's not kid ourselves. As a one time thing, they'd be fine but a habit of doing this would disincentivize people of buying a Switch. Also, they're giga Boomers who don't like people modding their games so they'd never actually do this.
>>737059861Are Nintendo fans leftists or chuds? Make up your mind already.
>>737069459BotW sold more than TotK by a good marginThe dropoff would be 10x on PC, the novelty of playing a Nintendo game on PC will last a few games at most
>>737069178>i love open world gamesThen why didn't you name any good ones?
Pretty much no Nintendo game can compare to what you can get on PC. Like if BOTW and TOTK tried to compete with a masterpiece like Terraria or Minecraft, especially on their own turf, Zelda would absolutely get destroyed. It already gets BTFO on its own console.
>Terranigger entered the threadI'm out
>>737071810Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Nintendo doesn't need to do that, Switch 2 already has everything PC has. It can run games in 4K and it has mouse controls, and only costs $450. Anyone who's actually a gamer already owns Tears of the Kingdom and a bunch of Switch games, so free upgrades and $10 or $20 to upgrade a game is a good deal.
>>737071607TOTK is way better than that shit
>>737072186Does the Switch 2 include a robust modding scene and romhacks? I'd love to be able to disable weapon durability and actually fill the game with stuff to do.
>>737071197you only asked for ones better than botw which is most of them
>>737072240It's a half-assed gmod nuts and bolts sequel. It's not even as good as the first game, which wasn't that good in the first place.
obviously not, they'd hit record profitsthe console business isn't profitable by itself, they just value having that vendor control more than they do money for (((some reason)))
>>737072241No, that's why it's better. If you have to mod a game to make it better that means you're playing a shitty game. Nintendo makes games that are good in the first place so you don't need to mod them.
>>737072343>If you have to mod a game to make it better that means you're playing a shitty game. Doesn't that mean that BOTW/TOTK are shit games, since Nintendo had to mod them just to run better on the Switch 2?
>>737061327>ALL console manufacturers sell consoles on a lossThis was not true with the switch, worst case they broke even.
>>737072343>having worse versions of games and less functionality is better
>>737054568>put your games on PC>people buy them but then don’t play them
>>737068507Absolute truth, go look at the top 20 games on Steam by daily players, over half are f2p and of the remaining ones, you only have one full priced AA game, and the rest are more budget indy titles.
>>737072694Sounds like the ideal consumer.
>>737054568>steamcuck port begging>againBeyond sad.The hate against Nintendo is nothing but terminal sour grapes.
>>737073250You know we can emulate a better version than what you’ve got, right?
>>737062583>texture pack
>>737073250that's not what the thread is about, tendiereminder that you're paying $20 to get a 20 year old pokemon game with less functionality than what brazillian kids had 10 years ago on android for free
>>737073236>budget indie titles are bad because....?????Is this a console thing? Where you can't like a game unless it costs 70 dollars and has 50+ dollars of DLC? I mean you guys regularly shit on Train simulators for having 1000 dollars of DLC, but when an indie game costs maybe 5 bucks, you lose your minds. What do you want? Or is this a case of "it's only okay when MY favorite company does it"?
>>737060839The truth is that like 1% of people who play games will ever even touch an emulator
>>737072032Nope. Its top 3 in the genre.
>>737074029meant for >>737072259
>>737074076>>737074029>BOTW is top three>can't even compare to Terraria or Minecraft
>>737054568>Steamies are having wet dreams againYou aren’t so different after all.
>>737074414No one is taking your retarded bait terranigger. Your TF2 reaction image folder will go unused itt I fear
>>737075467>"I'm leaving the thread">doesn't actually leave the threadI should be surprised, but I've known tendies to be liars for a long time now, so at this point it's to be expected. It brings me joy knowing that you can NEVER make an argument in favor of BOTW or TOTK, and your sheer anger only showcases it further.
>>737074029only someone who lives in a bubble would believe this
>>737073419Not anymore lol
>>737071810>he RAN
>>737075695Switch 2 version doesn't even have mod support, and it's stuck with Nintendo's terrible hardware that you don't even known. Why would I spend 70 bucks on a console disk that's just a glorified rental, when I can own my games on PC?
>>737075686What bubble would that be? Its BotW, Elden Ring, and Skyrim
>>737075764I'm actually still here. I just hate Terranigger because he falsely compares his survival craft games with Zelda for some low IQ reason. He is so easily identifiable because no one else is retarded enough to make those comparisons.
>>737075931lol case in point
>>737076046Name a better open world game. You people still haven't.
>>737075931>Skyrim and not even Morrowind >>737076040>calls others retarded, but praises Skyrim and other modern BetheslopReally not sending their best right now.
>>737076092Waiting on that refutation. ;)
>>737076116Morrowind is good too, but Skyrim, especially with mods, is better. >modern bethslopSkyrim is retro at this point big unc
>>737076116GotD Skyrim?
>>737075209we already have your games and they play better and have more functionality than any of your hardware will until 2040at this point you might just make it official, you're paying to be a second class player
>>737076184>Skyrim, especially with mods, is better. >>737072343>if you have to mod a game to make it better that means you're playing a shitty game.
>>737076404>we already have your gamesHows that switch 2 emulator?
>>737076428That isn't me you turbo faggot. I'm not a tendie. I play my bethslop on PC like a normal human.
>>737076445the progress is directly correlated to the quality of its exclusives, don't worrymaybe it'll get a botw quality game in 2028
>>737076506>I play bethslop like a normalfagYes, we're aware.
>>737076603Are we pretending that the Switch 2 isn't way harder to crack? Are we also ignoring all the fake emulators that were coming out around launch where they scammed people by taking money for discord access?
>>737076767>is a morrowboomer>pretends to hate all bethesda gamestypical
>>737076796are we pretending that the switch 2 has anything that's incentivising emulation efforts?
>>737076895>dodges the questionEnjoy playing games 10 years late. I know that's the norm for people like you.
>>737076960>playing games 10 years late.what games?the absolute toddler and womanslop nintendo's been hellbent on releasing?
>>737055789They were selling an amount commensurate with their quality.
>>737077051And yet you trannies clamor for the emulators lmao. Now reply like my birch or run away with your tail between your legs.
>>737076851>Morrowind is playable>Skyrim is hot garbage made for casualsNot sure how you're not getting this.
>>737077224if you had any dignity you'd want nintendo games emulated toothe original hardware is just pitiful and pathetic
>>737077276Thanks for proving me right
>>737077224>Now reply like my birch or run away with your tail between your legs.You're all bark.
>>737077304NTA but I could give or take it at this point. Nintendo really shat the bed decades ago, long before the switch. The gamecube already had some questionable choices, the Wii was pretty meh, the WiiU was bad, the switch was pretty bad, and the Switch 2 seems to be repeating all the sins of the father.Really, it's only worth it for the occasionally interesting nintendo game.
>>737057246which would actually be healthy for the market, honestly. Surprised Sony never bothered with that.
>>737059802>>737060023why are germans like this
>>737077059>They were selling an amount commensurate with their quality.lmao so now we’re pretending attach rate doesn’t exist?they “sold what they deserved” but still moved tens of millions of copies on hardware you claim nobody wants. sounds less like a quality issue and more like you’re mad people buy games without a 4090 and a modlist the size of a novel.if “commensurate with their quality” means printing money off the same plumber for 30 years then I guess that’s a pretty comfy spot to be in. meanwhile you’re over there waiting for the unofficial patch to fix your $70 “masterpiece.”
>>737078945>more like you’re mad people buy games without a 4090 and a modlist the size of a novel.And yet if people prefer simple indie games that don't require expensive graphics cards, you accuse them of liking gay pixelshit. You damn hypocrite.
As a big PC gamer I really don't think it would be a great idea for them. PC games really tend to be devalued a lot, personally I don't think I've paid more than $20 for a game in decades. PC gamers are trained to wait forever for discounts if they don't buy on launch. The market is brutally competitive, you get a grand total of ONE day on the steam chart before you get pushed off by the next friendslop to go die on people's wishlists waiting for a 90% off sale or a bundle.
>>737054568The thing about Nintendo is they never put first party games on sale. On Switch BOTW still costs 60$. Same thing happened with gamecube back in the day.
>>737079450Sucks for Nintendo, but that sounds like a win for the customer. 70 dollar games go to die, while indies can sell at pennies and still make a profit.Golly, guess spending 500 million dollars on your budget wasn't a smart idea, was it?
>>737081106>SquatemalaYou're on the wrong board /int/ is down the hall and to the right.
>>737064912same I apologize for being rude as well, I overreacted
