How do we stop gacha addiction
I see it
Why stop it?What kind of a poorfag retard do you need to be to get uppity over how other grown adults spend their hard earned money?
>>737057583It was then when I truly understood the hipster.
>>737057583Passage of time. I quit all my gachas and have no desire to go back. Next.
>>737057583>the smartphone generationYou can't, they've been conditioned not to have standards and many suffer from profound mental retardation.
>he spent gachabux that is worth 8 vidyas...over a 5 year period??? This generation is FUCKED!
>>737057583You don't wanna know how much millenials spent on MMOs
>>737057583Put the cute girls in high quality traditional retail games.
>>737057583uhh excuse me, but 30s is still young too ya know :/
>>737057583Its never going anywayIndia and china are huge consumer bases Indians dont have money to buy good gaming PCs and are given smartphones for freeChinese fucking love to gamble even though they have decent gaming PCs Only place still making games are north america and europe because white people despise gambling and anime
>>737057583Just did the math, I've spent $165 in welkin on Genshin over the past two years and change. That sounds about right. It's the only gacha I have and probably ever will bother with.
>>737058478I used to think that until I woke up one morning with unbelievable knee pain and got struck with the full force of mortality
>>737057583>40% of young men 18-24>15% have spent over 500$>How do we stop gacha addictionHAHAHAHA you wanted edutainment with trannies and fugly anti male feminist messaging and racial caricature duhversity and then the chinese swooped in an captured generations of men(and women) with dastardly messaging like>through the power of friendship>respect your elders>do the right thing>the journey is more important than the destinationand other fortune cookie tier asiatic cultural messaging propagated via cute cartoon girls in f2p games. Holy fucking shit, this level of dropping the ball to foreign industry will be studied for decades by the western game devs that are left after the crash.
>>737057583Release some other category of game for free at equal quality.
>>737057583You don't.
>play game for free for years>buy a monthly pack for $5 once>have you spend money on a gacha?>yes
>>737057583Nuke China, unironically.Gacha existed but it was contained to Japan only, then chinks broke the barrier by releasing their wannabe anime slot machine slop.
>>737058782Don't forget the most important lesson>don't piss off your paying customers Western slop has a serious issue with devs being obnoxious and antagonistic towards the people who are supposed to be buying the sloo
>>737058719stop being fat
>>737058569White people prefer anime over the garbage that their own entertainment industries are shitting out. Everything that plays by the rules of Hollywood is imploding.We just need to grow a spine, remove the Jews from power, and begin working together to end those rules so that we can return to being the cultural powerhouse that we still have the potential to be.
>>737057583Unfortunately they'll just keep spending 10x the amount of money anyone else does so theres no way to combat this cancer that has destroyed gaming forever.The normalization of spending real hard earned money on cosmetics instead of expansion packs is still so strange to me. Isn't it embarrassing to be such a slave to surface level desires you buy skins? They don't affect gameplay, said gameplay is just "grind X thing for hours/days/weeks to get stat boosts" anyway so why wouldn't you save your money or spend it on something better for yourself? I don't understand it, the game is taking your time with mindless grinding AND your money both at once. Genuinely low IQ behaviour, these companies are filthy rich because they're milking people with illegal gambling addiction and retention mechanics that have been outlawed in all other media and areas of human interaction.
>>737057583Killing feminism and deprogramming women. That's the only way you can kill gacha.
>>737057583>brownoids are getting digitally castrated by jpegs this shit should be promoted in third world schools
>>737057583I will play uma and won’t give cygames a dime
you will never be based
>>737057583>All the normal games make women ugly and black>Takes a half a decade for fucking anything to come out>They all try and be live service games anyway but don't give any of the free shit gachas doI don't know, maybe fix the entire fucking industry. Gacha games dominate because the industry is filled with greedy Jews and retarded diversity hires and women
>>737057583ban it in white countries
>>737057583you're implying shit like cs, fortnite and fifa don't have their fair share of addicts
How do we stop the homosexual OP from board spamming the same shit every day?
>>737057583it's better than spending money on alcohol and drugsor hookers
Make REAL games that are GOOD and contain cute anime womenIt's that fucking easy
>>737059532it really isnt
>>737057583Go to the nearest Chinese Embassy and smash some PlayStation.That'll show them
Mayano sexohttps://files.catbox.moe/ywmspk.png
>>737059229>don't spit in your customer's foodThis has somehow been lost, the art of not being obnoxious retards with the people who make or break your bottom line. They were just so sure of themselves, the hubris was nothing short of breath taking in the 2015-2024 period. Now there's a lot of AA and indie who have picked up the slack because they absorbed the AAA talent who left the nutcase asylums so after the long night there will be a sunrise but man, it's barely 12.30PM right now. It's gonna take a while.
>>737059962based
>>737057664public support for gacha "games" means we'll get more gacha "games", it's why we only get garbage these days.i want real games with ecchi, not a gambling machines with ecchi
>>737057583>6% of the young male population has spent $500 on gachaI'm genuinely curious how this compares to other live service games like Fortnite, Call of Duty or Overwatch where instead of gambling you spend $20 - $60 dollars per skin packInvestors always go for the "go big or go home" play, unless maybe the slap on the wrists from lootboxes are still present and gacha just operates in some weird legal loophole who knows
>>737060203Video games aren't a zero sum game, if there's a financial incentive, a market, and a lack of political interference, you could get the games you want - or they already exist.Senran Kagura died long before gacha took off.
Im proud to say that I have never played a gacha or a mobile game in all my 34 years on this earth.
>>737060608Have you ever played a GAAS game or purchased an MTX?
>>737060608>34you were never the targetthey aimed 10 years lower and trapped them all it's not all great for that age range either they are just addicted to sports betting
>>737060734I had my league phase when I was younger I guess
>>737060346what a nuanced post, what, are you actually trying to discuss something? shut the fuck up, either get mad and reply with reaction images or go away
>>737057583Put the cute girl designs back into AAA slop and the problem will fix itself.
>>737057583>billion dollar industry>"but it's free tho..."Always weird they'll defend it with that, while also bragging about how much money "their" gacha is making compared to others, then laugh when another one goes EoS and takes everything away because it wasn't making enough money. All a while there are the small few who will throw hundreds or even thousands of dollars for a premium currency simply for a chance to even get what they want, while pressured into doing so because there is only a limited window to get it.It's a special kind of evil no sane man would engage.
>>737060373Senran Kagura died because the companies in charge were asshurt over the girls having big tits
This is mostly just proof that gacha serves the tastes of young men.That said, I've spent no money on gacha because most of them have gameplay that bores the fuck out of me.
>>737057583close trade between east and west
>>737060903fair point have this cat
>>737057583remove troons and groids from western games
>>737061008Modern GAAS is gloriously malicious, it's almost admirable how deliberate and calculated their psychological manipulation is, from ads to notifications. Especially when you consider that they're essentially selling sand in the middle of the desert.Just look at picrelated and be glad that we still have normal games once in a while.
I don't believe for a second that even 40% of young men know what a gacha game is
>>737062173What's malicious about offering people a product they enjoy and voluntarily spend money on?You poors are always so melodramatic about this.
>>737062632you mean globally? 40% of young men on earth are probably chinese or indian so it doesnt seem that far fetched.
>>737057583Hoyo is doing a pretty good job fixing this problem already by making every new patch in all 3 of their games worse than the last one.
>>737057583Don't play gashit games.t. never spent a single dollar outside of buying the games themselves>>737057985Are they?
>>737062632They may not know the term gacha but they probably played one. I have a normie friend who play a dragon ball z gacha because he was bored and saw a dragon ball z game in the app store
>>737062837
>>737057664>What kind of a poorfag retard do you need to be to get uppity over how other grown adults spend their hard earned money?UMM DELETE THIS
>>737062632keep coping grandpa
>Living in a time where you can't afford a house>More men than ever are single because womens expectations of men have skyrocketed>No house, no family, everything is expensive afHm, I really wonder why gacha games with hot women are so successful.
>>737059537>and contain cute anime womenummmmmmmmm sorry chud this is fascist sexist and problematic
>>737062837Two more weeks and hoyo dies, this time for sure
>>737057583Femmoid are on the verge on suicide knowing they lost 500$ that should have been for them
>>737063342The state doesn't give me a house and loving wife so why should I care about roasties and society?
>>737062662Nothing at all, I guess. Just as every nation deserves its ruler, so every customer deserves his product.
>>737057583Just kill everyone that has ever spent money on a gacha game
>>737060373Video games are zero sum by virtue of the fact that we do not have infinite time and money. No company will invest in a project when they could get more for doing less
>>737057583good if it prevents them spending it on western slop
>>737063612Why do you think westranny slop is shitting the bed?
>>737057583take away women's rights
YOU CAN'T VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T OK??????????????
>>737063659This but unironically, women rights are incompatible with a prosperous civilization, but most people aren;t ready for this trvke.
>>737060373Senran Kagura became a pretty successful gacha after Sony told them to kick rocks.
Be honest. >Have you spent money on a gacha?>Which one was it? >Was it worth it/do you regret it? Yes, Nikke, the gem daily booster. For the most part, yeah. It was some extra pocket change and i like the game enough to get all the girls. But no way i'm spending on the 60 bucks gacha skins.
>>737058782you do realize that china has achieved this success despite every effort of winnie the pooh to prevent it by censoring the games in question, right? if anything the success of gachashit at capturing western audiences displeased with western wokeshit is an argument against global leftism, not an argument that china is better than the west.hell winnie the pooh recently shut down a super fanservicey gacha game because chinese feminists complained to the government that it was violating their country's censorship laws.
>>737063462Exactly. The system is literally rigged against us, so why should we care about it?
yo this gameplay is fire
Maybe the West could consider releasing appealing games and characters?Nintendo and mobage are dominating for a reason
>>737064096what is the mind set of this? to make people not collect rewards? cause you can just make a claim all button
>>737064096I remember someone calling those games "reward collector and red notification dot hunter simulator" and it's comically accurate.
>>737059301>>737063659BASEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM
>>737057583>gacha has tons of female players>menAnother "study" that pretends to reveal a "problem" but is just ragebait.
>>737064304More dopamine hits for the bugbrained
Part of getting older is watching the world changing in retarded ways that make you want to scream to people younger than yourself. Just be glad you were around to see gaming when it was at its best instead of a shambling corpse.
>>737064534>has tons of female playersSome of them yeah
>>737064304it took them years to add a claim all for daily expeditionsI think it has to do with the retarded idea that more clicks = more engagement = better
>>737064096GRAAAAAAAAHHHHHH I LOVE CLICKING LITTLE PICTURESI LOVE WHEN FIVE MINUTES OF GAMEPLAY GIVES ME TEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF REWARDFUUUUUUUCK YEAH I BET THAT PICTURE OF A RUBBER DUCK IS AN UPGRADE RESOURCE FOR A UNIT I DON'T EVEN OWN FUUUUUCK YES
Gacha Derangement Syndrome
>>737063986Probably like $50 all told on tile clacking simulator, mostly in monthly passes.Got my girl, got her an outfit, now sitting on a jade stockpile for a rainy day sure ain’t gonna be the SAO collab kekNo regrets but often picrel is very real when bad luck strikes.
>>737059301>>737063659That's unironically correct lolEven if feminists don't like it, without the incentive of a loving wife and family, the majority of men lose their motivation to work and the system falls apart.
>>737057664The essential issue, and difference, between this and other games, is IDOL WORSHIP. you don't even pay for an experience, you're paying for a graven image that tickles your imagination for a few hours at most, before being whisked along to the next manufactured promise of revelry. Imagine if Tifa had been a gacha object. Forgotten in 6 months, no legacy, no culture, just tits on a stick and a "birthday celebration" for a fictional character being pumped out by SquareEnix every year. Idol worship is a fundamental flaw of the modern human brain, the only remedy is replacement; pushing forward religious symbols (and culture and community around them) that satisfy the primal urge for gawking ('agape', verily.) 'Till then, we'll piss away our efforts for spiritual connection.
>>737064704How much have you spent anon
>>737064304Cheap dopamine. Monkey see red monkey click. Same shit is cookie clicker except not free.*worst_mobile_mmo_ever.webm*
>>737065049I’m interested in this alleged webm.
>>737064096>"yo duuuude you gotta play that new gacha game, it has better gameplay than AAA games">the gameplay
>>737063994Pro CCP Chinese people and pro CCP larpers unironically know less about China than the average person because they both buy the propaganda and make excuses for the breaks in propaganda while denying both reality and history all at once.1984 was about this, imagine talking to any member of the 'the party' and it's a complete waste of time because their version of reality is so completely distorted from anything that's real that they have no idea what's going on, they're just happy to be in line with 'the party' and everything else is tertiary.It's incredibly fucking pathetic, it's the most non-human a thinking mind could possibly be.
Of course it's the AAAcuck seething at gachas
>>737064304It's to make you engage with the game even more after playing the braindead minigames, building up that sunk cost fallacy. It's the same reason they still don't have the skip dialogue button, the more time and energy you invest into the game the harder it is to drop.
gachashit seems great when you first get in to it but after a few months you realize how shallow and stagnant it is. Plus you're at the mercy of every update.
>>737065467it's to stop f2poors from having dozens of accounts to just collect rewards
bing bing wahoo man has no games to play so he spends his days in gacha threads crying about them
>>737065607That's nogame cucksoles for ya
>>737057583If someone is retarded enough to play and even spend money on gachashit then they're retarded and there's no helping them. There's really no difference between them and the fags spending money on Fortnite skins or CSGO skins. Same exact type of subhuman. I'd say them losing money is a good thing but sadly gachashit making money means more devs make more gachashit and the vidya market is filled with slop.
>>737065534You wish, they don't give a shit about players who wouldn't be giving them money anyway. It's all just to keep the paypiggies on the leash.
>>737064258The appealing characters of the east and unappealing characters of the west are both products of a wider mindset. That same mindset also leads the east to overwhelmingly tell stories where functional justice-based masculine morality reigns supreme and their people are the good guys, just like we used to. Anime isn't generally going to shove a narcissistic retarded bitch who insists that there's nothing about Japan that's worth preserving except its tolerance of invaders in your face and try to dictate to you that this is what an actual hero looks like, for example. Hollywood casts titty actresses to play these characters regularly and you can see how much it helps.Making the characters hot is like treating an infection with anti-inflammatories. Obviously, that's an improvement, but the infection itself still needs to be dealt with.
>>737057583Make better regular games. AAA games have gone to shit so badly that gacha games look good. No one would be caught dead playing gacha back in the 360 days
>>737064258They/them are NOT gonna like this TRVKE
>>737065145For once youtube history search fucking worked. The quality is shit, but youtube code is in the filename if you want the full thing.
>>737057664This.Just let the retards spend retarded amounts of money it's so funny to look at.>DDR5 is too expensive!>OMG IS THAT BALLERINA SIROPDECACA????! OMMMGGGG I GOT GOT HER C4R1 WITH ONLY 500$
>>737057583gachas are much better than mmos, especially since it has hot girls and much better stories.The only mmo with a good story i have ever played was the secret world.Gachas with good stories include NIKKE (not joking the story is good), heaven burns red, wuwa (sometimes) and arknights. Also the music in a lot of gacha games just RAPE AND GAPE mmos
>>737066219>>737064258Exactly, more people going with gachas is the symptom of a bigger issue with the videogame industry.
>wuwa (sometimes)he can't help himself
>CONCORD 1>CONCORD 2>CONCORD 3>CONCORD 4>CONCORD 666WHY YOU NO LIKE WESTERN GAMES???????????????
>>737066660sometimes is better than never, wow's story and lore has been gaped and raped thousands of times with niggers replacing white npcs, so yeah, gacha is 99999999999% better
>>737066849how DARE you not like trans BIPOC neurodivergent folx in your games you racist sexist transphobic incel chud????????????
>>737066664gacha shit isn't any better, bwo. The final hurdle they have to jump is the fact they're still designed to be time waster mobile games. Even the ones that lean harder on pc and consoles still have mobile game design.
>>737059427This, diversity hires and women ruined video games. Uh but gacha bad, well yes, but it at least isn't full of ugly women, andother western pozzed shite.
>>737067105It's infinitely better than most western trash.
>>737067198How?
>>737059524Anon, asking the important questions
>>737067198It's rotten apples to rotten oranges.
>>737067330You got your answer in the posts above.
NTE coming out at the end of the month btw, remember, no blacks
>>737067482Qrd on this one? What's the gimmick this time?
>>737059524*crickets*
>>737067482I'm hopeful NTE will be the start of gachaslop breaking the mobile game design mold.
>>737063346Yes, a western developer would say this.
>>737067482>neverness to evernessholy fucking shit why does every gacha have the worst title I've ever heard in my lifeI thought Genshin Impact was a bad title, but every year since then they've gotten worse
>>737057583The more important question is how do we stop retards who are addicted to GTA from buying literally every microtransaction available and covering the cost of its 12 year $2 billion development in a day?
legislation, just like gambling
>>737060203
>>737067593"anime gta" but the devs keep saying its not, the devs say its a "city with a supernatural side to it", but i guess people will just say its anime gta until the end of time, ananta is much more of a anime gta
>>737067593>What's the gimmick this time?(you) work for what is basically SCP foundation.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>737067741nah brown dust is the worst title ever
>>737060203>garbageI don’t see what’s wrong with them. Genshin Impact has so much content at the rate I play it, it will keep me busy for decades. Meanwhile AAA games are $80 now and don’t even have offline modes anymore.
I am am convinced that if I vibe-coded an app that just displayed a ranking of how much money you've spent on it and a PNG of a golden crown if you're numba 1, chinks would unironically fight for it.
>>737067851>playing genshitsounds like a you problem
>>737064981>MODERN IDOL CULTURE IS BAD>MY OLD IDOL CULTURE IS BETTER>BUT IDOL CULTURE BEFORE MY TIME WAS ALSO BAD
>>737064576Anon, I'm was there as well when video games were just a niche hobby for male nerds. And knowing how good it was, pisses me off the way things are now.
>>737067952Umm....shut up
>>737067482Didn't the MC have black hair? Or I'm confusing it with another GTA clone?
>>737057583I quit on my own. These games suck
>>737067424No >>737067184
>>737068134
>>737068251Ah right there's another one. I actually kinda like his design, it's not overdesigned compared to every fucking Mihoyo game.
>>737057664Part of the problem it's that they're wasting money on real dumb shit when nearly half the zoomers are in debt most of them with phone/internet bills
>>737066291Jesus fucking christ.>the 20 glowing tabs at the topA parody wouldn’t even go that far.
>>737057583>boot up zzz>enter tower>turn off music and put my own playlist>have a fucking blaststop bullying the paypiggies, they make my fun possible for free
>>737068773They were gonna waste it on another dumb shit then. You wanna make people responsible? Let them fail. Let them die. Let people see the suffering that ensues if people waste their lives. Also, ban these people from breeding.
>>737057583ban it. Japanese devs have stated that they can't make a Genshit because the working conditions would be illegal to replicate. If the conditions would be illegal if produced in the home country, then the home country should make the product illegal. Simple as.
>>737068961Only after we ban blacks trannies and other LGBT garbage from videogames.
>>737068961>Japanese devs have stated that they can't make a Genshit because the working conditions would be illegal to replicatenah, they can't make it because japanese creativity has been bankrupt for like 2 decades now and they can't make a pc port to save their lives
>>737068292
>>737069042This, the vast majority of japs are phonefaggots
>>737067675On one hand, having actual gameplay would be nice.On the other, the mobage design works as a containment wall for gachashit.Like, you can set them apart from 'real' games that game.
>>737069071What the actual fuck...?
>>737068961Japanese devs have stated that they won't make genshit because png collectors with no gameplay and 15 dollar budget give 100000% return so it's better to shit out 700 games over 3 years when 90% them will die in less than 12 months than invest in one genshin clone
>>737057583>all these gachaniggers coming out of the woodworkslol
>>737068961>because the working conditions would be illegal to replicateJapanese office working conditions are the same as chinese sweatshops
>subhuman with gacha derangement syndrome mindbroken for lifeKEKAROO
PROMILLIASAVE THE GACHA MARKET
>>737069429Is this the AL sequel?
>>737068251>>737069071Most likely I will end up disappointed but I really want it to be good. This and DokeV. No matter how jewish "totally not gacha" Ananta will end up, it won't be nearly as bad as Grand Shark Codes VI. Or as soulless, because V already was deep into negative SOVL numbers.
>>737067851>doing dailies in genshinhow many years ago was this made
>>737069487The spambot hasn't updated its script please understand.
did you get your snake bimbo yet?
>>737069476>Is this the AL sequel?Same devs, but technically unrelated
>>737060373senran kagura died with gacha hell
>>737069570I like Genshin, HSR, and WuWa. I want Shift Up's art direction to be the norm in videogames.I've tried to like this game twice. I just can't get into it, even though I like the protagonists and the Toonami-like atmosphere. It just feels like a cheap PSP JRPG with better graphics.>You've sold me.Hey, I'm not trying to stop you.
>>737069570sorry, no useless girls allowed on my account
>>737069921that's mean bro
>>737063994>despite every effort of winnie the pooh to prevent it by censoring the games in questionLmao no, last time they tried to curb games they lost 80 bln usd 3 years ago. The games produced in china cannot be made in the western markets, and i'm not talking about gacha mechanics here. You cannot make genshin or any other gacha in western studios, it's not allowed.>is an argument against global leftism, not an argument that china is better than the west.Both can be true, which says a lot about the current state of the western industry. China is more totalitarian than western countries and yet games like snowbreak could be made up until very recently. A game like that could have never been made in western studios to begin with, ever. >winnie the pooh recently shut down a super fanservicey gacha gameIt's gonna come back after it removes the "problematic" content. Women get stuff like picrel in their games, which is arguably more problematic than whatever snowbreak had in it. The only reason you heard about snowbreak but not Love&DeepSpace is because chinese feminists who jack off to drawn young boy cannibalism porn reported that gacha game to cover for their smut.
The gacha domination will continue until the west stops being gay pozzed shit.
>>737069570Yes and i like that the electro ball from the aniki character works great on her.
>ACK
>>737069570>serpentborn to deceive
>ACK ACK
>>737060373Senran had a gacha too, retard
>>737069486the problem with anime gta is that its too offensive for asian markets, yeah even with current gta, things like gore, violence against cops, etc
also young men>How am I ever supposed to buy a house?perhaps stop throwing money at gacha, vtubers, ethots and streamers
>>737070670exactly
>>737070802>If you just stopped getting takeout, you'd be able to afford a mortgage that literally eats up over half of your income!Fuck off boomer.
>>737070598>>737070721umm... wuwa bros?
>>737071032yeah, also a good idea. cook your own food, both cheaper and healthier. keep it up and you will also make it one day zoomer
>>737070490So basically never.Long live gacha, I guess.
>>737070598>>737070721Where is the cultural phenomenorino known as smash?
Is gacha bad for you?
>>737059347>>737059407basado
>>737057583By making up numbers?
>>737068251It can never compete with GTA6
>>737062662People aren't rational. Normalfags have tons of bugs in their software that makes them just throw money at shiny lights. Society would be better if those kinds of people were protected, since they are capable of contributing when there aren't shiny lights blinking at them. The question isn't just about doing nothing, because doing nothing comes at a big cost.
>>737069547>aiyeeeeee do not redeem if you don't make a new video every 2 days you lost
>>737067851The average uma daily is like 40 minutes
>>737073039>you lostJust westslop games things
>>737070328>A game like that could have never been made in western studios to begin with, ever.>everBefore 2010 it absolutely could.
>>737069570>SNIIIIFFFFhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/t8cWSH9OBjg
>>737069570No, and I probably won't. The Gong succed me dry of Polys, so I would have to get incredibly lucky to pull the Snek with just what I get before her banner ends.
>says gacha>doesnt mention cs loot crates or overwatch loot boxes>every shill day 1 was spending hundreds on loot boxes for overwatch>they cry about gacha games a year later even though they funded tigole enough to fuck up the game permanently
People keep saying that gacha is expensive but I probably have spent more money on marvel rivals season passes and skins than the entirety of honkai star rail in the last year.
>>737060203Gacha games are more REAL games than $70 slop, that many of you are accustomed to and conditioned to think that are legitimate products. But we're not ready to have that adult conversation, because you are too addicted to the old game industry.
>>737074306man face
>>737074138We call this Gacha Derangement Syndrome
>>737072879Probably because its mostly a singleplayer game with basic coop unlike GTA.
>>737071978FVVVVVAAAARRRRRRKKKKKKKKK
Most games nowadays are just as much of a chore to play as gachas and honestly the only thing I can say against gacha is that you will never see the ending. But then again you see steam metrics and see that over 80% of people never even bother finishing their games so I guess that's why GAAS are so popular nowadays. Like what is even the ending or the final boss of crimson desert? I never see anyone talking about it. The only games I see people finish to completion is mayve souls games because the final bosses are a big deal.
>>737072879And that's fine. I'm sure there's some Rockstar engineer whose only job is modeling moles on the asscheeks of those hideous beach niggers we saw in one of the trailers. Just like with RDR2, sometimes you don't actually need to waste resources and time modeling realistic horse testicle. I think there's some articles out there saying GTA6 has cost like two billion dollars to create, and that just seems grossly excessive and pointless. All that to say I don't actually have any hope for Ananta, but I'm not going to discount a game just because it doesn't have the same level of resources Rockstar throws at their own shitty games.
>>737059427>>737059537>>737060914>>737061469>>737063423>>737063612>>737063659
>>737057664As a ching chogn based chinese, I’d be more than happy to see you incels give us your neet moneyThe white genocide is something you brought upon yourselves
Based
>>737072717200 posts in and nobody's posted the source of the tweet, the source of the "study," or even questioned it in the first place.
>>737075912Were you expecting something different?
>>737057583A few options....>Make normal vidya games fun again and not filled with gay retarded DEI shit.>Cater games to mens tastes with accommodations for women rather than making shit for women then wondering why no one is playing it.Or>government regulations treating gatcha as gambling.I don't blame the kids. If everything that was a paid game was bait and switch dogshit and a free to play gave me stuff I liked I'd spend money on the Gatcha stuff I like
>>737057664Because there are too many retarded people spending their money on low effort goonbait or other dark pattern microtransactions and it's poisoning the entire medium.
>>737076238Their business what they spend their money on, VISA/MASTERCARD tranny.
>>737075912If you validate a common enough belief you can make up shit that sounds “right” enough for people to not question it. Welcome to misinformation 101 ;)
>>737076238Nobody stopped it when todd introduced horse armor or when valve created loot crates. Who cares at this point. People were already embracing mtx shit back when mmos were at its prime.
>>737076479That doesn't change that you're a massive retarded tool for spending money on gacha, faggot.
>>737076742Not my fault you're poor lol
truly the gacha detangement syndrome thread of all time
>>737074306I buy the monthly in ZZZ for $5 which totals to exactly $60 a year. That's cheaper than a new game from a big publisher. It gives me enough rolls to guaranteed any character I really want as well as hundreds, thousands even, of hours of gameplay throughout the year.RE9 cost me $70 for a 10 hour game I'll likely never touch again. I could have just watched a streamer play it with little difference in enjoyment.The difference in value is massive. It's another reason why, alongside the DEI practices, AAA games are all flopping left and right.Anyone who says that gachas are expensive has either no clue what they're talking about or just zero self-control. Gachas are only predatory to impulse buyers that think they NEED to everything. You don't. But if they want to throw their money away on the game because they really like it, then let them. Better than supporting western companies who actively hate their players.
By making better games
>>737077320That's true. people talk about RE9 now but people will forget about it next month and move on the next 70 dollar game like pragmata. Gacha remains relevant to its community for years so it's nice if you're into it because even its content droughts aren't as bad as other games that go into years of slumber.
>>737074449gacha games > $70 slopbut $20 slop >>>>>>>>> gacha games
>>737057583Create quality alternatives for people to play instead. So those dudes are fucked.
>>737077549It's not like they can't create quality alternatives they just don't want to, because that means catering to hetero chud incelrinos and that's a big nono.
>>737058632I've bought exactly 4 BP and about a year or more of welkins between 2.3 and 5.6 or something, so like a good 100€ total.Worth it honestly, and I'm still playing, but if it taught me one thing it's that there's no point paying as it doesn't give your more content and it doesn't make it come out faster either, so I never paid anything in any gacha ever again.
>>737060203Japs have been sitting on their hands for over 10 years, cutting public support for gachas won't fix this and make their games not-lazy. Koreans will never make a good anime styled game. The West as a whole is still trooning out and it's a big part of WHY people are jumping ship to the gachas. Cutting public support for gachas doesn't fix any of the current issues in gaming outside of the gacha spaces.
>>737077731And by 5.6 I meant 3.6, I stopped paying for welkins sometime during the Sumeru drought
>>737077320>I could have just watched a streamer play it with little difference in enjoyment.That's the approach I take with HSR after that game got boring to me. Turns out that a JRPG where party members can only do a maximum of 3 things per turn sucks ass to play regardless of total content.
>>737078098On the other hand a JRPG has at most, maybe 6 characters at max and with maybe 12 skills throughout the entire game. There's only so much combinations you can do and by the end game you will be spamming you strongest abilities anyway. To HSR's credit, over the years it has become a norm now that characters unlock more moves as the battle progresses, like a character gets an extra 1 or 2 upgraded/enhanced skill or normal attack after activating their ultimate that has different animations and battle effects. Comparing characters from amphoreus like phainon and cyrene to launch characters for example is like night and day.
>>737058632>>737077731around the same amount for me as wellwhen i started clearing endgame without issues i stopped paying
>>737057583make good video games
>>737060203BremGOD...
>>737059524Unironically no clue. The methods of ban evasion have gotten so deep I don't think it's even possible to truly keep the absolute most persistent of schizoid trannies out.
>>737059427That’s a valid argument.But there’s still plenty of alternatives in both gaming and entertainment as a whole. I personally would rather not play games than play garbage.Choosing gatchashit over western slop is like choosing rectal cancer over colon cancer.
>>737078949>But there’s still plenty of alternativesNope
>>737078949well maybe you are used to other games but people who like gacha are already into games like senran kagura and don't mind the increased production values while also being free. It's a completely different audience that doesn't intersect much with normal video games. The ecchi anime games of yesteryear already didn't. You won't see someone who likes neptunia go into the same room as people who like deus ex.
>>737067804Anime GTA is Ananta. NTE is supernatural paranormal Genshin/WuWa in a modern fantasy setting.
>>737069207>Japanese devs are retarded and out of touchI kinda hate this timeline where chinks are smarter and brutally mogging the Japanese in the gaming industry, but here we are.
>>737077536I stand by this too, playing a 2024 game at a 60% discount is more fulfilling than any gacha.
>>737078949Indie games are not the saviors of gaming you make them out to be them.Some of them are good, a very small minority, like maybe 2% at best.And even then, it's just another Metroidvania clone. Another "Insert whacky job here" Simulator. Another 2D pixel title that has none of the soul of an SNES game.They're finite, their playtimes are limited to a few hours, and even the core gameplay of them is never revolutionary or amazing.The greatest strength of gachashit is that they are updated constantly. New shit all the time. New areas, new characters, new bosses.People who have lots of free time for their hobbies, as zoomers especially do, love that aspect of them.It's like MMO update cycles except 500% faster and you don't even have to pay to get access to the new expansion each year. Just log in and play it.
>>737079417not in the console space
>>737076191This. Gacha became mainstream cause of troonslop western games and Mihoyo managing to catch people during Covid with cute anime girls and actual gameplay (compared to literally every other gacha at least) that ALSO isn't instanced arena corridor slop (open world) and just giving people what they wanted while niggers, faggots and trannies were telling their customer bases to shut up and consoom the HRT HIV slop they were churning out without question. The west only has itself to blame for losing it's grasp on things.
>>737057583You fix society first. Gatchas are simply a drug people use to cope with a broken system.But to optimize the Gatcha and min/max it, you would make everything in the game free/unlockable by just playing/connecting. And real money purchases only give catch-up-rewards and cosmetics. Avoid all forms of limited-time/fomo events, and especially avoid fomo rewards/unlockables. (Also, the catch-up-rewards should not be used to gain an unfair advantage for obtaining/beating newer content. It should only be used to bring people up to speed, but not skipping, on old content).
>>737079670No Tanaka I am not spending 70 dollars on the 20th copy-paste Mario game in a row. I will not buy Bandai-Namco (basically the equivalent of Nexon but in Japan) 2010-era cashgrab looking dogshit either. Stop slurping corpo cock and tell your local game devs to actually compete with the chinks instead of dragging their fucking feet.
>>737079425this
>>737057583Age verification apparently.
>>737059537No, Uka Uka! The ((ancients)) will not allow it
>>737059537>>737060203>>737079670>>737080064The "real games" market has slowly getting worse an worse with how expensive games cost to make. This was was first made obvious with Japan fucking up hard during the PS360 era and now with many "real game" studios closing down or having layoffs in the West despite decent sales.GAAS is the only way for games and if there's one thing the Western industry has over Japan's, it's financial adaptation. Very few Japanese studios even have an ongoing GAAS game compared to the west. Capcom is still making PS2 games in design but their profits will soon plummet if that's what they keep doing. China and Korea barely bother with the console market because they know there's no money to be made there anymore.
>>737057583i graduated college a few years ago in stem so many young dudes were into gachanot even really normal anime, just gacha
>>737058170game¿?
>play through gacha>do all available content>well that was fun>drop the game and move onto the next>repeat>never spend a dime>infinite free sexy gacha girlsi hope that nekopara gacha comes out in global soon
Since snowbreak is dead. What is a good Master Love gacha to replace my addiction with? Already play Exilium
>>737057583I do drugs and in some ways gacha is better than drugs.
>>737057583Tragic.
>>737057583Ban third world from internet Problem solved
>>737057664>poorfagYou're the one spending on gachashit Do you think wealthy people spend their time or money on this trash?Oh please
>>737081321Star Savior isn't bad. Set Male Protagonist. Girls are for (You). Interesting enough premise. The designs aren't super lewd, but the game doesn't shy away from fanservice and does panty shots quite often.
>>737078949>rectal cancer over colon cancer.But it's literally the same thing Ooooh... wait
>>737079425You're genuinely retarded, like genuinely retarded and it genuinely shows how you don't play games besides gachashit you low-key are defending Because if you were playing video games besides gachashit you would know that there are video games there in which you can easily invest hundreds if not thousands of hours, not speaking of mods ofc.And don't tell me about muh gachashit is being le updated, fuck off faggot, what update? Do event and log off, relogin next day for dailies, rinse and repeat?Dog shit main stories, pump and dump bitches, dog shit mc? Harem trash? And yes harem is degenerate brown and third worldism. You don't build civilization with harem.Genuinely kys.
>>737082872They both get reffered as "ass cancer" but they're actually quite different. Rectal cancer is in the rectum, that small area beyond the anus where the penis goes during anal sex.Colon is basically you whole large intestine, where shit is stored for most part.Still, in both cases, the treatment is brutal.
>>737082587Rich people spend more on gacha and microtransactions than buying games themselves.
>>737083089(Me)And I could go on and on rants but it's more than enough for animals like you.
I've spent nearly £10 thousand of the kings money and I won't be stopping...
>villain's goal is to have women breed and reproduce
>>73705766499% of the "people" who play gacha are poorfags who can't afford to play anything better.
>>737083186Cope harder
>>737058632>It's the only gacha I have and probably ever will bother with.Play Wuthering Waves
>>737083089>>737083196You haven't named a single better alternative, tranny, now sybau
>>737058950I look like this and do this
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>>737057664I hate people like you who have zero foresight and think "if this doesn't make this person bleed or steals their property without their consent, it must be okay".
>>737083089>low-keyong?
>>737058950god i wish that were me as that kpop idol dude
>ugh gachas are such paypig expensive shit>ugh gachas are such poorfag shitSubhumans with gacha derangement syndrome have colossal cognitive dissonance lmao
>>737083620Goomba fallacy
>>737057583I wish I can get duped into playing gacha againPlayed some of them for years and eventually got sick of the FOMO events, characters. waiting for updates, eventually turning into login simulator and the mindless gameplay. Maybe one day when I lose more braincells.
>>737083620I've always found this absolutely hilarious too, and you see it in each and every gacha thread that they come in to seethe at.On one side you have them saying "You have to spend $500 for a PNG!!" And then on the other side they're saying "You have to be poor and brown to play those!"So which is it, niggers? Because those two things are quite literally complete opposite sides of the spectrum.Could it be that maybe... just maybe, you CAN spend if you want to, but you don't HAVE to.To me that sounds like a F2P game done right.
>>737079425>muh indie gamesThe gaming industry is more than AAA goyslop and indie games. There're over 100000 games in circulation.>And even then, it's just another Metroidvania clone. Another "Insert whacky job here" Simulator. Another 2D pixel title that has none of the soul of an SNES game.Do you even play games? Even if we restrict this discussion to exclusively indie games, this is straight up false.>They're finite, their playtimes are limited to a few hoursThat's not playing games. That's CONSUMING games. Even relatively short games can be replayed many times thanks to all the different challanges and builds you can have. There're people playing SMB on th NES to this day, including zoomers and alpha gen kids.It's a matter of exploring the industry and finding something that genuinelly appeals to you. Not just being a FUCKING LAZY GOY CATTLE consuming what your JewAppStore of choice recommends you.>The greatest strength of gachashit is that they are updated constantly. New shit all the time. New areas, new characters, new bosses.Those updates are all the same shit, but with a different paint. Gatchashit as a whole barelly even has any gameplay to begin with. Even Genshin and WuWa are less complex than the average PS1 or N64 3D action adventure game.
>>737083728>#NotAllGoombas
>>737057583Making non-gacha games with high quality waifus
>>737083923Too sexist and problematic, especially in the west, chud
>>737083923>non-gacha gamesNope.
>>737083229Desu in a context where sexbots are a thing, and can fully replace 'real' female contact. A foid starting a cult and waging war against sexbots is almost an compelling and interesting conflict.
>>737084073>300m budgetNo game should have a budget that high. The games of the previous generation came out with less and the new games have not made any large improvements visually or gameplay-wise to warrant higher spec requirements nor a higher budget at all. The west deserves to fall at this point.
>>737083816From another point of view, it's the worst of both worlds. It does exploit compulsive spenders but then you also have to deal with a swarm of Indians and SEAnigs in the community.
is there a gacha game that isnt some loli shit?
>>737068251This is not a character gacha = it might have actual combat. one trailer had the guy punching people (with slow animations, not like effects) like a gta game
>>737061008There are no real limited windows
>>737084514Love and deepscape
>>737064096>every reply ignoring that this is after doing the gameplay content
>>737084685Why aren't the rewards claimed automatically?
>>737084524Yeah. They are stating there is no character gacha because all the characters are tied to specific gameplay elements so they don't want to lock gameplay elements behind rolling characters, but I wonder if their monetization plan will work since it sounds like it's going to be cosmetic based.I hope it works out for them because being a knock-off of GTA and a whole bunch of other modern open world games will be something nobody else has really done yet.
>>737084754Some people like to actually collect some rewards, like everyone that left Aloy to rot
>>737084790*not collect
>>737084790Usecase for not collecting currency and materials that you're not obligated to use anyways?
>>737084764at this point why not make it single player offline, like fuck man i hate always online shit
>barely any gameplay!>not complex!>why yes, cookie clicker is a good game, how could you tell
>>737057583You cant
>>737084923Usecase for not turning in mmo quests?
>>737084953Money. Look at the recent leaks of how GTAO earns about 1.3 million per day and that model is seemingly what Ananta wants to copy.
>>737085085Except they aren't because GTAO's monetization doesn't work in a singleplayer game with limited co-op.
>>737085051>big tittied elf lady that is one with nature impressed at the speed at which they can copy
>>737085051fairy onahole
>>737085069>non-sequiturThat answers a lot actually
>>737085351>memeiturTruly
>>737085051uoooooohhh
>>737057583I wanna start gacha addiction but somehow the games are never interesting enough. I'm more likely to fall for the BDO/Lost Ark kind of scam.
>>737083816>Could it be that maybe... just maybe
>>737085051Maybe I should play it after all. How much do whales actually spend on these games a month?
>>737085220thats not exactly a unique concept
>>737083816It's both. You either are a poorfag with no standards or an addicted dolphin or whale. Same audience that will go for ai girlfriends once it gets good enough
>>737062662>You poorswhat poors? the "poors" that can afford to buy the full games that you can't, or the poors that can't play anything but gacha games?
>>737085749Yikes sweety there's a lot to unpack here
>>737085917um...hi! this isn't funny!
>>737057664>He spendedIt’s so easy to tell when this statement comes from a place of butthurt
>>737085760It depends on the game. Something like a game using Mihoyo's system is likely going to run 1000-1500 per banner to max out the character.
>>737085859So if it's for both poorfags and richfags, then it's basically for everyone?
>>737083838>Those updates are all the same shit, but with a different paint.You're saying this like giving people more of what they want is somehow a bad thing. Isn't that just smart business practice? What do you want them to do? Procedurally AI generate new content at random each time?WoW's core gameplay has literally not progressed in over 20 years. Some might even say that it's regressed. Yet they still charge people $50-100 for an expansion pack every 2 years + a $15 monthly subscription fee. People still gobble it up and nobody bats an eye, because beloved Blizzard is LGBTQFAG++ friendly.Yet when gachas just add more of the same and it's for free, now there's a problem with the model?
>twitter retards hate gachawtf i'm downloading all mihomo games RIGHT NOW
>>737074449>errrmm what about modern AAA slop??>at least it's better than shitty games!!every single time with you gaycha fags
>>737086291>3 posts in a row and he didn't bait in a single replydon't worry anon, i got (You)
>>737086291twitter weebs love hoyoslop though. it's full of faggot shit and girly men.
China won.Israel, Kikeslavemerica, and the United Islamic Calphiate of Fagrope LOST!
>>737086391thank you anon I will live to survive another day
>>737086291>t. xitter fag >>737070598
>constant update>a-actually that doesn't matter>design character that people actually attract toward>a-actually that doesn't matter>good marketing and fans events>a-actually that doesn't matterI'm seeing a pattern here
>>737057664I'm convinced that at a certain point, individualism becomes a character flaw.Things are well past the point where "voting with your wallet" can help, but it's attitudes like this that got us here. This is probably the same type of Anon who whines about how all the hot girls are relegated to Gacha games.
>>737057664WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE PAYMENT PROCESSORS
>>737086310The bar is so low...
>>737086569Most xitteroons spend most of the time seething at gacha lolis or sexualized gacha females in general, not necessarily playing them.
>>737063986I've spent about $400 on Genshin, $20 on HSR, $120 on ZZZ, and maybe like $5 in PAD.
>>737086039Yes. Because no other people exist
>>737059963The part where the last remnants of the old guard eat each other, desperate to not die and rot like the rest, will be a sight to behold.
>>737086850Middle class doesn't exist anymore, sis. You're either poor as fuck or rich as fuck.
>gacha is le bad>meanwhile the actual big game like Fartnite and Roblox specifically aim to monetize children
>>737086569that's a twitterGODtwitter screencappers are twitterRETARDSknow your place
>>737059537>Make REAL games that are GOOD and contain cute anime womenbut you don't play them, games like this are still being released. we should support them
>>737066291What the actual FUCK?! No one with self respect or money sense would play that shit! It looks like a fucking parody.That shit makes gachacrap look like fine art in comparison.
>>737073752I dislike the combination of animaniacs X anime waifus. This irks me more than it should.
>>737087004What is this "hiruko" game?
>>737070328That's Love and Deepspace? Not even God of War was as lewd as this and they were showing tiddies
>>737066291This is like that gif of a retard being mesmerized by some guy using colored lights to get his attention
>>737066291THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF MMOshit's even more ridiculous than gachas
>>737077320>Gachas are only predatory to impulse buyers that think they NEED to everything. You don't. But if they want to throw their money away on the game because they really like it, then let them.Anon, it's predatory BECAUSE we have these low impulse control buffoons that they take advantage of and drain their bank accounts. It's why we call them predators in the first place; because they take advantage of vulnerable prey.
>>737087107The only reason it hasn't shared Snowbreak's fate is because chink women would go completely fucking postal if their husbandos were taken from them. I know tales of women in other countries killing themselves over getting their game deleted.
>>737087206gachas get new games, the last MMO that didn't flop was over 10 years ago
>>737087293those chink women in the first place are responsible for games getting censored. Read up on what happened on where winds meet's female costumes vs male costumes.
>>737087073her game is The hundred lineHiruko is her name
>>737087293Anon only men have the balls to commit suicide, women only think about killing themselves but they (almost) never do it.
>>737057583Normalize shaming and bullying paypigs to suicide, it's got to be for all types of gaas and mtx, not just gatcha shit.This retarded paypig bootlicker is a prime example >>737057664
>>737087298Which was? Mind you TERA was a flop despite how many had fond memories of it and BDO was a middling success but still had troubled development. FF14 died miserably first and had to be resalvaged at the cost of FF dying as a brand. So I guess Warframe, if that counts as an mmo.
>>737057583I don't understand the appeal of gachas, even if I enjoy loot mountain gambling simulators like nioh or your traditional rpg gear rolling...
>>737087350it happens a lot in asia.
>>737057583You stop a gacha addiction the same way you stop a video game addiction. You grow up. Realize your time and money should be spent on things that matter, like your job and family. But this is /v/, so no one is gonna do this.
>>737087398Whales will just call you a poorfag in return. Now what?
>>737087483mostly gambling addicts are adults with jobs though. That's where they get their disposable income.
>>737087483>things that matter>job>family>not your own enjoymentholy underage
>>737087468>I dont understand the appeal of gachas
>>737087420ESO
>>737087347Never heard of it, most /v/ threads are about either mainstream games or dogshit games 24/7
>>737068851Such an adorable bun!
>>737087514You shoot them on the streets like all richfags deserve
>>737087468the loot is arguably the worst aspect of nioh and why everyone has been screaming for it to get removed for almost a decade. The appeal of gachas is basically being like seasonal interactive anime that everyone else talks about whenever it gets a new patch, something that nothing else fits the bill right now. Other anime games are too niche and not as big budget and they only come out like every 5 years or so and people immediately forget about them when they do come out. /v/ tries to deny it but gacha's cultural impact on the current generation is massive.
>>737087571v... videogames?
>>737057583maybe go back to making good games
>>737087514$25 bag of shit dot png
>>737087620A whale would have to leave his house first idiot
>>737087623but where's the video gamemaybe I'm too old or out of touch, I don't like VNs or keeping up with anime seasons either
>>737087571But this can be masturbated to without having to waste both your time and money on dogshit??
>>737087620
>>737057583I don't understand the appeal of these gook games. It's obvious from the beginning they just want your wallet.
>you should spend your money the way I do>t. peasant
>>737087776And console slop doesn't?
>>737087571>live2D jigglingnah i'm good>>737087776>It's obvious from the beginning they just want your wallet.literally every game outside of freeware wants your wallet, anon..
>>737087693Then you're not the target audience. How many people talk about the video game part of video games either? It's not even about being too old, even back in my time, my normie friends would talk about multiplayer games like dota and counter strike about the social aspect of it and the vibes. Gacha's biggest strength is that it knows how to generate discourse, so much so that a new character getting announced would cause its community to get flooded with talking points. Meanwhile when was the last time a new mechanic gets announced that has everyone on the internet talking about it?
>>737087646Yes>>737087701It's free and so?
>>737087872it just seems more like following a soap opera or something... lol
>>737087620You guys are idiots to put Luigi Mangione on a pedestal. He was also a richfag, an insane richfag, but a richfag nonetheless. That CEO he killed worked for a competitor to his family's company.
>>737057583When more developers create games with attractive women then I will consider them
>>737057583I don't understand anyone in my generation, how and why you would "play" these "games" and pay for them just boggles my mind. It's a long since tired meme but I do feel like I was born in the wrong generation at this point, as reddit as that sounds. I share nothing with my peers other than my age. >t. 2001
>>737087683That meme never worked on whales
>>737087701the same can be said about fanservice anime and games but people clearly still consume them. Like there are people who watch episodes of ecchi anime just for a chance that maybe that episode will have some nice fanservice. You are like the same people who tell people who want sexy women to just outright skip to the nudity.
>>737087613I remember some cool threads about this game here, but yea /v/ loves to talk about retarded shit, just look at the thread we're in.
>>737087842>just
>>737087950>I'm not like the other guys
>>737087932and soap opera is popular. People fucking love chitchat and drama. Why the hell do you think /v/ loves to talk about vidya industry drama than actual games? Or how vtubers got so popular here because people keep talking not about the vtubers but the scandals and drama that happened outside their streams? Man is a social animal
>>737059427>live service gamesLive service games BUT you need to buy the game 40 to 80 euros like helldivers, marathon and all lmao
>>737088065Yes I'm aware how stupid it sounds, but it's how I feel. But I also hate both generations on either side of me so maybe I just hate people in general
>>737088058>>justFUCK MY SHIT UP
>>737058782you forgot:>the masculine urge to save your daughter>the masculine urge to crush the moon just to farm aurahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scJBOYMtVnE
>>737087613>>737087613>most /v/ threads are about either mainstream games or dogshit games 24/7this, /v/irgins will call you a shill for posting about a game you likethat's why it's rare to see good games being posted here
>>737058950Fuck you
>>737088076Also, like every other month, so dumb controversy is always happening either in the gacha itself or in the community so this gossip train never ends. There's a reason why gacha generals on /vg/ never slow down. The entire genre is designed for engagement farming and generation. There's always something to make people engage with something either within the game or outside it. Other devs would be fucking jealous just get the same amount of engagement that gachas get.
>>737057664It encourages more gacha slop to be made. Gacha pigs are sheep that should be herded
>>737057583>spent over $500>this is somehow unacceptable>someone spends $5000 yearly on a hobby>this is perfectly fine and should be encouragedCome on now. At least try to be subtle.
>>737068773okay but how does that affect your personally?
>>737086697I'm convinced that you in particular need to be stripped of your right to autonomous decision-making and expression
Can't believe I have to share the site with poor people, ugh!
>>737064981This guy understands.If Anon was given the choice between a free high quality sex doll and his waifu with the gacha tax attached, he'd choose his waifu. His mind gives the waifu a presence and identity similar to a "spirit" for lack of a better term. The story, voice and pictures combine together to make something of a living being in the imagination, even though he can't actually interact with it. The character becomes a divine ideal for him.In contrast, despite the sex doll's physical presence, it lacks that life giving context that the gacha waifu has, among many other things. It's not just about the character being hot, it's the imaginative play and sense of the untouchable ideal that does it I think.
>>737088045this meme machine is the reason why I didn't bother to play the game.
>>737084073>300m budgetsAnd it's still worse than no more heroes 2, a game that was made by less than 20 persons
>>737087950it's a videogame, the fuck do you mean how do you play it?
>>737088459It's also the context. People keep saying about lol just watch porn, but gacha characters are popular for a whole myriad of things, many key concepts which are researched and engineered to make them as appealing as possible.
>>737088459>having to paypig/roll to get your waifu>she will be forgotten after her initial release>she's going to be a bland shitty character, there are no well-written characters in gacha>you will have to play it daily like a slave just to upgrade her>retards who don't even care about gachas will make horny weird fetish threads about her 24/7, but you will be the only retard who plays her game because you are the cuckyhaving a waifu from a gacha game is pure cuckoldry
>>737089030>retards who don't even care about gachas will make horny weird fetish threads about her 24/7, but you will be the only retard who plays her game because you are the cuckyYou're wrong in this case because most gacha threads on /v/ are by people from /vg/ so they do play the game. In fact, the amount of people who don't play gachas these days is far smaller than the ones that do.
>>737062173This is disgusting. Think of how much money states are losing from the lottery scratchers not being bought by these brainless retards anymore.
>>737087937He's just a fallguy, government can't allow cattle to think you can kill a CEO on the street and get away with it.
>>737089030its honestly funny how you're completely wrong on every single pointnigga has irrational hatred for something he's literally never touched
>>737089030>>having to paypig/roll to get your waifuAs opposed to trudging through several if not tens of hours to finally get to play her?>Buy Persona 5 Royal for Sumipe because she looks cool>Realize that she's only playable in the final act of a fucking 50-60 hour JRPGOn the other hand, the rotating banners for gacha do suck though. I really want Evelyn in ZZZ and afaik, she doesn't have a rerun anytime soon.
>>737057583I tried really hard to get into gacha games, I can deal with stamina systems and even the gambling, but what ultimately filtered me was the writing>new update comes out>new banner character>new main quest chapters with said character>one trillion lines of dialogue with absolute no substance, it doesn't deepen characterization, doesn't stablish new lore or explain much of anything, absolutely boring slog to go through>visual novel style reading, boring camera shots or just 2D avatars getting highlighted>next update comes out>last character is never seen again, becomes completely irrelevantI played Genshin, Wuwa, PGR and Nikke, all suffer from the same issues, I'm baffled chinese people enjoy this at all, when I play a game I want to game, not read. The girls look incredible thoughever
>>737089309i played more gachas than you nigga, i know what i'm talking about
>>737063986Do gift cards count? They give money for donating blood, but only as gift cards. I suppose I could use this as a free lunch, but I've been using $5 month to month for essentially a battle pass. I've never spent anything otherwise.
>>737089416prove it
>>737089398>playing gacha for the storystory in gacha exists only to contextualize characters so that you can jack off even harder to them, dont think about it too much
>>737089398> I'm baffled chinese people enjoy this at all, when I play a game I want to game, not readThat's how anime games are though. The Naruto Ninja Storm campaigns for example was basically just speed running through several naruto seasons while pressing a QTE and a fight game match in between HOURS of cutscenes and VN style dialog.
>>737064096I have respect for those who don't pick map exploration rewards asap, (show ADHD immunity). But even so, they pile up if you don't
Gacha's greatest gift is all the mods that get ported into other games.
>>737089329lmao it's 100x better than the banner system, for example, Eulafags from Genshin had to wait a year to TRY to get her; you still need resources and luck to get her after waiting months.At least in Persona you can just play at your pace and you will eventually get her>>737089447idk how i can prove it but i played Genshin, Nikke, ZZZ, Azur lane, FGO, HSR, DB legends and FE heroes
>>737089650>westshit games become better just by importing sexy gacha designsReally makes you think.
>>737089504then why even put it there? some of these games don't even have a skip button>>737089558the narutos games are a adaption, the average anime game doesn't have literal hours of unskipable dialogue, unless it's gacha of course, even then, if you're going to have so much text, at least say something, I'm a reader man, but writing needs substance
>>737089030My wife is well written and continues to get content even now 6 years after she released, to the point that it pisses off many players of the game.
>>737089714You probably though that was skyrim/fallout 4 but that's stellar blade but yes I get your point. I am actually looking up if VtaW has made an evelyn port.
>>737089030Also ALL anime girls from ALL series have a ton of fetish porn art of them.
>>737089329>As opposed to trudging through several if not tens of hours to finally get to play her?That's just gaychas LOL. and you still need the RNGod to get the character
>>737089783MonaGOD...
>>737089880NopeFor me it's Ratto
>>737089825Daily cuck posting threads about real games isn't common, it only happens with gacha shit
>>737089824Well stellar blade already has decent designs by default..
>>737069570I have 200 rolls saved and 40 till soft pity. She will be mine tomorrow.
>>737089989Because there are more people ass ravaged by the existence of gacha games than normal games
>>737089673>At least in Persona you can just play at your pace and you will eventually get herKeyword, eventually. I tapped out by the time I got to Haru because I really didn't give a shit anymore and the story was still going on. My initial excitement to get her was already gone like 40 hours ago when I realized Futaba was a more interesting character. >>737089720Depends on which ones you are playing. Plenty of anime games have VN style dialog which is what many chink gachas copied in the first place. Gust games in particular can get pretty wordy, like the ar tonelico games and some atelier games. Many of it is nonsense too since these games either delve too much into magibabble or slice of life stuff like blue reflection where you just listen to teenagers have teenage girly angst
>>737089880She was literally forgotten after Mondstadt.
>>737089398>last character is never seen again>I played Genshinwhy bother lying?
>>737090041Why do people want to engage with JP media but then actually don't want to engage with JP media? It's been the same for decades, it's not changing any time soon.
>>737089861>That's just gaychas LOL. and you still need the RNGod to get the characterIf you're a newbie without resources sure, but if you're an oldfag, a new character can come out and you just immediately hardpity them and get them immediately and upgrade them with prefarmed materials and let them borrow gear from your other characters in the mean time. Meanwhile in a normal jrpg if you want a character NOW that means using saveslot that already has them unlocked in the party which also means skipping tens of hours of content because JRPGs are linear story telling affairs and going through the entire journey is the entire point of playing it, not collecting characters in the middle of a live service open world adventure game.
I play gacha and other genre of monetization
I don’t even know what people mean when they say they hate gacha anymore. Do they mean lootboxes even though some games still play well without them since they’re mostly cosmetic like TF2 for example? Or those games where you just mash buttons or use fake strategy and still win anyway?
>>737089650True that, mods are a blessing
>>737090041>Keyword, eventually. I tapped out by the time I got to Haru because I really didn't give a shit anymore and the story was still going on.The same thing happens with gacha games, but it's even worseGacha games are designed to be "infinite", there's a point where you just stop caring
>>737090137Because as you can see here, some people don't want anime and the anime tropes that come with it. imagine buying Girls und Panzer Dream Tank Match for anime World of Tanks and realize the game's single player is 80% a visual novel.
>>737090219>or those gamesmost video games?
>>737090247The difference being is that JRPGs make you pay for a game and expects you to finish the story.Gachas are free to play and you play them for the characters. You have the option of farming up and saving currencies to get a character or paying up to immediately get them. You can do the story whenever you want and many of the story points are self contained and episodic. Even star rail nowadays lets you outright skip chapters. ZZZ has story recaps if you don't want to bother with the previous story and just want to jump right in to play with the new character.I'd say gachas also require even less commitment if you aren't a whale because you know full well that it's a live service game designed to go on forever as long as it can.
>>737090256Then why buy or interact with anime things? Most JP things are made for people who enjoy anime tropesIt should be clear after decades of them not really changing anything upI feel like there is some irony somewhere in all this where some people are leaving western games for chasing an audience and changing things the original audience liked and moving to games where they now want them changed for them (which means chasing a new audience and changing things the original audience liked)
>>737090107Cryo 5*s definitely have that issue most of them are banished to chronicled or wrio who hasn't appeared in a year
>>737090535Because they want to engage in the new hip thing that everyone is talking about but they also hate the new hip thing.
The gacha market will inevitably manage and contain itself. Gacha is incredibly cutthroat. There's a limit as to how many gacha games the average player is willing to play, but nearly all of these games more or less attract the same audience. This means that Genshin, Wuthering Waves, Endfield and the new flavor of the week open world gacha are all competing over the same playerbase. Relatively few players will play ALL of these games at once, and a lot of Wuwa and Endfield players are just disenfranchised Genshin players who migrated. So most of these games are trying to steal players away from other games. This puts a hard cap on how many of these games can exist and thrive at once, especially since these games are much more of a financial/time drain than most other games.
>>737090595That's already happening, not just with endfield but within mihoyo itself. For years now, its profits have been cannibalized by their own games so they're not seeing any growth. This is why newer anime games are moving away from gacha. It's not yet a success, like how disappointing duet night abyss was, but time will tell.
>>737090664meds
>>737090664>endfield>mihoyo>no mention of wuwa circling the drain
>>737090265Yeah, this whole thing is really confusing, right? What are people actually mad about? Is it the lack of skill expression, or the way these games make money? If these ""“anti gacha”"" justice warriors actually knew what they were angry about, I think the problem could be solved but these people probably don’t want to solve anything in the first place and the discussion is really just to fill their unemployed days
>>737091078It's just the way they make money, they actually don't even bother to see how the gameplay is in them
>>737069487Nigga, you can see they're in Natlan, so it can't be more than a little over a year.
>>737057583Stop putting ugly women in normal games and the horror will end.
>>737066302>implying mobilefags care about DDR5 ram prices
The anime bubble will also deflate at some point, predicted to be around 2030s.The chinks have failed to become the main hub for anime content, much less "steal" anime from but the japanese, but at least they got a nice piece of the cake when it comes to profits.
>>737090219>>737091078it's always the avatarfags being the biggest retards in the room
>>737091190doing dailies wasn't a thing by the time we got to natlan
>>737091593I'm more confused by them counting mat farming in zzz as a daily when you only do it when you need mats and not daily at all, even back then. The actual daily content is 45 secs of clicking some stuff (drink coffee, open store, scratch card)
If you could turn one gacha with some light rework to function better but it's ported mostly AS IF to be an offline game, which one would you pick? My vote goes for ZZZ
>>737091013>Melty over WuwaRent free
>"gacha bad" thread>thread filled with copium huffing gachafags desperately trying to justify their bad spending habits
>>737091991Definitely ZZZ yeah.
>>737092135Where?
>>737091991ZZZ's core gameplay gets fucked so hard by being a gacha and it's not even funny
>>737092135all I see is gacha derangement syndrome
>>737090417>The difference being is that JRPGs make you pay for a game and expects you to finish the story.Piracy exists, and paying for a normal game is better than daily slaving or paying for a characterI always finish the games i bought, idk about you. A 60h cool game is better than an infinite daily slop>You have the option of farming up and saving currenciesSo your options are daily slaving or paypigging for a character that's going to be forgotten and powercrept?>You can do the story whenever you wantYou can do the same thing with normal games?... Gacha games have the rush/fomo to play the story and do dailies because of the banner systemLike if you don't get the character NOW you 'll have to wait months to try to get it again, you can't play gachas at your own pace if you want to get the good stuff
>>737091991Third reply for ZZZ
>>737057583If you're a gacha player, not only are you ruining gaming, you're an ultimate normalfaggot. You are certified not a gamer anymore. You're the most insufferable little faggot I will ever hae the displeasure of meeting and I hope I never befriend you.
>>737092363could skip all that and just play gacha instead>just pirate everything brono wonder you keep begging gachagods to spend money elsewhere
>>737092135>thread filled with copium huffing gachafags desperately trying to justify their bad spending habitsGachafags are fucking losers. Not the good "lol I'm such a dorky lonely weeb on Discord all day" it's more like you're a low IQ subhuman. Utter disgrace to the video game artform.
>>737092420>you're not a tru-gamer!okay? what are you gonna do, pirate games in protest?
>>737092512Something better. I will make fun of you.
>>737092463I only said piracy is an option because I was obviously responding to a poor thirdie, people like him don't spend money even on gachas>could skip all that and just play gacha insteadI accept your concession, slave bro
>seething about people spending moneyTruly /v/core
>>737092530same, but for non-gacha
>>737057583holy fuck kys if you spend on these fucking chink gambling simulators
>>737092530>Something better. I will make fun of you.
>>737092556isn't that what gachabrowns do for people that buy games that pajeet can't afford?
>>737092562>fucking chink gambling simulatorsFucking laughed. Fucking hate any games made in China. And I hate their gamers too.
>gacha faggots will never get to fuck their favorite gacha girls that they paid forsafe horny
>>737091473People are never going to just stop liking big titty perfect anime waifus. Take it from someone who's been coming to this website for nearly 20 years because of, you guessed it, big titty perfect anime waifus. Back when anime was good.Also I'd recommend you never look at any JP gaming news site. Because for the past several years the most prominent news articles are about CN gachas. Endfield is the biggest thing in Japan right now. NTE has visible hype surrounding it.Japs will always love anime shit and their own country right now is just dropping the ball hard on delivering on it.
>>737057583>stop your gacha addiction>stop your porn addiction>stop your sugar addiction>stop your (You)s addiction>stop your screen addiction>stop your caffeine addiction>stop your tcg addiction >stop your alcohol addiction>stop your anime addiction>stop your shitposting addictionThen what i can do to enjoy my life with still being in this shithole?
>>737091473two more weeks
>gacha game>funded by players>they make the game for the players>normal game>pirated by players>they turned to get funding by government or activist to make DEI shitShrimple as that
>>737092743You can't fuck the anime girl you pay 1000s for the 1:16 scale model of either
>>737085051Is this Azure Promilia? The lolis in this game are so peak they give even Genshin lolis a run for their money
>>737092842maybe stop listening to retards that were beaten by their conservative parents
>>737089030>there are no well-written characters in gachaPLAY WUTHERING WAVES
>odd wave of posts all around the same time after very few posts for the last hour
>>737093012all mei'm cooking beef stew and letting it simmer for 2 hoursgacha is good btw
>>737092753>People are never going to just stop liking big titty perfect anime waifus.People fall for this gay fucking trendy retarded "omg fuckin anime waifus!!" you're just retarded
>>737091473>The chinks have failed to become the main hub for anime content, much less "steal" anime from but the japanese, but at least they got a nice piece of the cake when it comes to profits.The funniest part is that for the CCP, this is just another venture. The Taiwan spat revealed that China's entire anime soft power hangs from a thread, and if Winnie the Pooh decides that japanese shit is a negative to the youth and chinese society in general, they are just going to crack on it.>>737092753>Endfield is the biggest thing in Japan right now.And it's only relevant market.
>>737093137Animr has been going strong since the 80s, it's not going to change unless something else comes along
>>737093251All I'm saying is people need to stop over dumb low hanging fruit hype. "omg waifus" is such a gay, lame and retarded thing
>>737093251>animeeven
Since you hate gacha so much, present the idea how you are going to overcome gacha
>>737059427I find it funny how gatcha bros think the only gaming options are gatcha games or AAA stuff.Yes anon, the only games that exist are gatcha games full of hot anime women and AAA slop with ugly black dykes. There is NO other option, it's all in other people's heads.
>>737057583>How do we stop gacha addictionWhy do you want to stop the AGP triggering anon >.<
>>737093295you sound like a woman with no hobbies
>>737093295Well misusing "waifu" is lame, yes. But anime girls will always be a big deal to some degree, they were even back in the 80s
>>737066302>please incentivize the worst gaming model ever made so it can spread and ruin everything
>>737093365Like Gachafags?
>>737093336ZZZ because the gameplay puts any white guy with an IQ higher than 80 to sleep
>>737093350Why are gaycha fags like this?
You know most people play both gacha and paid game right?
>>737093338There is not "t" in gacha, short for gachaponAnd i find it funny how people think people only play one or the other, instead of them playing things like indie games and older games along side them
Chinese and korean anime products exist within the bubble created by Japan. They are not bringing anything groundbreaking to the medium because everything is derivative from japanese media with more of the same, so it makes me laugh when wumaos believe that China will supersede Japan as the hub for anime shit.
>>737093450Not a*
>>737093443This desuI don't get why people act like you can only play one. I finished my dailies and then booted strangers of paradise.
>>737093413gachagods actually spend money on their games though? make up your mind
>>737093443no you don't understand, see they're not spending it on the "right" games (western games)
>>737064096>good goy rewards
>>737093471No one believes that. Even mihoyo, the biggest chink company in the chink game, realize that Japan is number 1 which is why they acknowledge it by calling themselves Otaku to follow the Elevens
>play free game>y-you are poor!>spend money>y-you are paypigWhat do /v/ want
>NOOO!!! YOU CANT WASTE YOUR MONEY IN SLOT MACHINESgo back to die to israel and let the adults spend their money as they wish, mutt
>>737093607i know it's crazy but /v/ isn't one person
>>737093607(You)s
>>737093607spend money on trash games that retards pirated
this thread is still up? anyway the tweet is fake, i made it up so i could have uma in an OP and not have it purged within like 2 minutes
>die to israelThis is an English-speaking board, zhang.
>>737093624>adultswe're really using words recreationally today, eh? eternal teenagers at best, maybe
>>737093669/v/ermin umatards didn't fly so good. Meanwhile, /vg/ is having a great time
>>737093730Not him but I would say this says a lot about /v/ that no one knew it was fake but it happens so often I'm not surprised anymore
>>737087347VNs might be the only "games" with less gameplay than gachas.
>>737093812Double Retard
>>737093450Sorry anon but gotcha > gatcha >>>>> gacha
>>737093812hundred line does have gameplay but its dogshit
>>737093854I too make up things to make my mistakes into miracles
>>737093790I looked through the thread and maybe like two posts questioned the source at all. I even left a the mistake in the OP
>>737093812it's not a VN
>>737093951umaturds outstayed their welcome and are delete on sight just like genshit
>>737093519For the WRONG REASONS RETARD.
>>737093812Most gaychas are VNs>>737093856Has more gameplay than your favorite gaycha btw
>>737094154I don't think that's the discussion going on currently
>>737093443>You know most people play both gacha and paid game right?No shit retard. It doesn't make it any better. They still SPEND MONEY ON GACHA.
>hundred line shill
>>737094184It's okay to say you don't play either of the things you're talking about
>>737094154Won’t stop me bud
>>737094218And why is that a problem if they spend on both venue?
>>737094218Most people don't spend money on them and if they do it's just a little here and there over the course of years (like 50$ a year)Whales are not the common player
>>737094264Because you're encouraging bad shitty gacha. Gacha is bad.>>737094284>Whales are not the common playerLOL
>>737094179there is no right reason when it's entertainment
>>737094295They aren't, that's why they are called whales. Dolphins are closer to being common.
>>737094317Not what we're arguing about and I don't care.>>737094328I disagree. Gachafags are normalfaggots who think they're not.
>>737094348You're clearly just using words you don't understand because you see other people use them. Normalfags don't play all types of gacha games and they are less likely to whale on a game.
>>737094394>Normalfags don't play all types of gacha games and they are less likely to whale on a game.Normalfaggots have money to spend, have a job. That's normal.
>>737094431>have money to spendSaying a lot about this thread
>>737094431Even NEETs have neetbux to spend on shit. How do you think they end up with cases of figures, walls of manga, and beds full of dakis?And just working does not make one a normalfag
You don't even have to be close to normal to get a job
>>737093441Because AGP is pretty cute!
>>737094493I accept your concession. I am right.>>737094502>Even NEETs have neetbux to spend on shit.You're just saying anything huh? You can't just say this and think unemployed retards can get magic money out of thin air for being fat and lazy. Out of how many players when that game pulls in millions across the world? Probably very minor compared to actual whales with a responsible life.>>737094542LOL!!! This is actual cope. You're a normalfaggot, like me. It's ok anon. Having a job is a normal thing that society expects you too. Can't just walk it back and think you're one heckin special chuddie who likes gacha anime girl games.
>anti is jobless sodomitekekaroo even
>>737094585Again, it's clear you don't actually know the words and meanings behind them>chuddieAnd this is the give away. You're to young to be talking about things you don't know
>>737094637>>Again, it's clear you don't actually know the words and meanings behind themI do know the words behind them. Shut up. You're a normalfaggot just like me. Stop acting like you're that edgelord in high school. >And this is the give away. You're to young to be talking about things you don't knowWhat's sarcasm?
Seriously, no actual otaku would use the word "chuddie" even in jest, nor would an otaku even count as whatever a chuddie is
>>737094671>Seriously, no actual otaku would use the word "chuddie" even in jest, nor would an otaku even count as whatever a chuddie isEveryone has their own broad term on what certain words mean. That's why you're all wrong and you will never correct me on the definition of normalfags.
>>737094585i'm normal and would rather spend money on gacha than ugly western games, you're right
>>737094670You're even using edgelord wrong now
>>737094695No, you're just saying words because you want to fit in
>>737093441Geez I wonder~
>>737094715Stop it with your semantics retard. You're a dumbass.>>737094751With what fucking identity? We're posting anonymously. >>737094706Made by chinks? At least play games by Koreans and the Japanese.
there used to be lots of threads on /a/ a decade ago that had people showing off all the things they bought with neetbux
>>737057583Too much disposable income is the problem. These people need to be taxed more.
>>737094774Being anonymous doesn't stop people from stull trying, like you, who is saying words he read but with his own meanings instead of using more fitting words, because the words you read are commonly used
>>737094835*still
>>737094835>Being anonymous doesn't stop people from stull trying,But it does though. Once this thread dies you will never remember me. And I literally do not care. >who is saying words he read but with his own meanings instead of using more fitting wordsNope. I'm using the words correctly. Enough with your semantics. You're doing this because I'm right and I proved you wrong.
>>737094890
>>737094890I will remember you when you post like this again because you won't be abke to help itAnd you're not right, most of the people who posted here when this site was made had jobs, they just didn't socialize with normal people and so call those normal people normalfags, this then extended to the things those people enjoy like sports and going out to bars and shit. Just simply having a job wasn't part of it because you do not need to be social to have a job
>>737095005*able
If you have a job, you're a normal human being. End of discussion. I won this argument. And you're normal. Look in the mirror anon. You're nothing special.
That's not how it works and it was never how it worksNow you can take joy in knowing no one else will get to correct you
Also I don't have a job I'm not in any schooling, 100% NEET.So lower your tone when you type at me.
>>737095335*and I'm
>>737095284Nu-uh
the biggest normalfags are the ones who thinks they're not a normalfag
I'm a proud lolicon so that means I winNEET/lolicon/loser who talks to no one and doesn't go outside other than to take out trash once I get 5 or so bags laying around
>>737092743Hentai gachas exist bro.
