So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??I didn't get a straight answer from you last time, but he's still right. Games shouldn't be killed so nonchalantly, no??
>>737079813>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??Because it gets replies.
I'm not supporting your communist agenda
>>737079813Like 3 trolls from discord stir shit against it, LITERALLY everyone else is in favour.
>>737079813>why does /v/ hate SKGmuttoid puritan brainwashing
>>737079813Because most adults understand that things have an end and can deal with that fact.
I dropped my support it after the twitter language merge. All the Japanese developers brought up some real valid counterpoints and you'd have to be really empty headed to still support it after reading their side.Kinda wish I could take back all the shilling I did for it, but thankfully it looks like it's going nowhere.
/v/ is overrun with tendies and Nintendo is against SKG, you do the math
>>737079813keep killing games
>>737080247>All the Japanese developers brought up some real valid counterpointsSuch as...?
>>737079813>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??because there were lots of threads about it. happens to literally everything on this board
See that button right there on the main menu? AAA game developers claim that button will D E S T R O Y gaming industry.
>>737079813tendiesits always fucking tendies
Contrarianism. >>737079884If you were actually anti communism then you'd be against intellectual property rights (which is a state enforced monopoly) and without IP laws there wouldn't be an issue for SKG to solve
>>737080906>intellectual property rights (which is a state enforced monopoly)
>>737079813we hate the eussrwe hate governments overstepping their bounds into videogameswe hate nannystate shitwe hate retarded faggots making retarded faggot gay nigger demands that are completely infeasible to fulfill in realitywe hate coomies and communismsimple as
>>737081047Anon, that is precisely what intellectual property rights areIt is the government giving the author of a work or an idea a monopoly on how it can be reproduced or used
>>737079813Being contrarian is easy (you)s.
>>737081225>communismsee>>737080906>completely infeasible to fulfill in realityTons of games had LAN multiplayer and private servers for decades. In fact, it is EASIER to have LAN multiplayer then to have corporate online only servers.
>>737081225>we hate retarded faggots making retarded faggot gay nigger demands that are completely infeasible to fulfill in realityThis is completely infeasible to fulfill?>>737080716
>>737080906>t. communist faggotshalom, hymie!
>>737081238>It is the government giving the author of a work or an idea ownership of that work or ideaYou're just using one word incorrectly, that's all.
>>737081319that isn't what you're demanding, communist kike.
I love advocating against my own rights.
>>737081385Yes it is retard
>>737080906IP is gay but it's a fight that's even less likely to bear fruit.
>>737081428no, it isn't, retarded kike
>>737081452Then what is it retard?
/v/ is actually stupid enough to fall for bait like this
it's stupid because no one is forcing people to play live service slop or to give money to them. you choose to support that kind of game knowing they could shut down the servers at any time. thinking that you can force game companies to support their games forever is stupid, so realistically all it would do is ban that type of game. at the end of the day skg is just crying to the government to control the behavior of everyone because the minority of people are unhappy that others are doing things they don't like.
>>737081612>thinking that you can force game companies to support their games foreverthat's not what SKG is about retard
>>737081612You're being outvoted by retards. You will always lose in the money as votes department.
>>737079813v are american, that all you need to know
Still not supporting SKG
>>737081659explain what it's about then if it isn't using the government to ban things you don't like
>>737079813>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??Enabling companies to clean up their image to retard consumers instead of let such consomer stop being retarded or deservingly culled; none of those companies need help to improve but to go down in flames. Also>involving goverment to fix things>it's actually children's electronic toys of all thingsYeah, that surely will end up well
I experience EOS when gacha games close down.The Japanese are thoroughbred cucks that tell themselves "This was a temporary experience. It is what it is." I am not like that. Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, as a whole, which means both the original game and the tactics prequel War of the Visions, is completely wiped from the internet. 12 years. All gone. And when asking the director/produce of the series, Hiroki, if there would be an offline version of the game, he said there were no plans, because that's just how the Japanese operate.Look into the Nier Reincarnation private server situation if you want to experience culture shock of a nation of people who don't have a single shred of preservation instinct at all
wanting the government to regulate more things is absolutely retarded, games shouldn't be "killed" but the government shouldn't be involved at all. people should stop supporting developers that "kill" games.
>>737081864Not. My. Problem.
>>737081827It's about letting people host their own servers after the company stops supporting it you know like what could do before >>737080716
>>737081945>it's about funneling money to nitradoI'm sure they're stoked
>>737081827nta but it actually forces devs to provide an offline version/capability
>>737081925Shitpost, but stillImagine being a Nier fan and being told by the Japanese "If you want to experience Reincarnation, ask Square Enix (lol) to bring back the game (lmao), or hope someone put all the story onto Youtube. Otherwise, you're shit out of luck!"Some might even say, "You should've spent money on the game to keep it alive," which is a sign of completely and total ignorance, because Square Enix killed the game because it wasn't making ENOUGH money.
>>737081921>stop supporting monopolistic developers who absorb game studios and enshitify everythingIgnore that, boycotting never works because the majority is always fucking retarded
>>737079813It's communist shit
>>737080906SKG is communism because it undermines the IP owner’s sovereign right of ownership to revoke licenses at will.
>>737079813>7th thread todayA reminder that industry plants are pushing the SKG threads here because they are farming reactions. Even if it isn't this OP specifically. Most of /v/ doesn't give a shit because we live in America, EU peeps have already done their part. The only people bitching and moaning about it actively are Plants, Trolls or cry babies.
Letting users host their own games/software on their own machines was a mistake and historical quirk of the 80s and 90s. The simple fact is that games as a service/software as a service is the correct business model for the industry to function, and is what average consumers actually want. Once Gen-Xers like Ross die out, SKG will be immediately forgotten and history will progress in its natural direction.
>>737081921Yeah I also think companies should be allowed to dump toxic waste into rivers if it's more profitable than not doing that.
>>737081945that's still using the government to force companies to do shit. if you actually want to preserve dead games you should be petitioning the government to take away companies' ability to c&d private servers.
>>737081383Which word, monopoly?How is it not a monopoly? It gives them the sole control and rights over a work
>>737082381>IP owner’s sovereign right of ownershipThat's commie shit in the first place
mrw
>>737082319see>>737080906>>737081331Provide an actual counterargument.>>737082381As the post you're replying to explain, IP rights are communist to begin with
>>737079813>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??Because the whole site is run by feds and corpos
>>737082634>It gives them the sole control and rights over a workThat's just called ownership. A monopoly would be if they had sole control to own all ideas. And since other people are allowed to create and own their own ideas it's not a monopoly on ideas. Hope this helps.
>>737082659>>737082703Intellectual property is a form of capital. Communism is against private ownership of capital. Protecting a private owner’s rights to own their intellectual property is capitalist.
>>737082751Creative works are not interchangeable, if you own the rights to a work, you have a monopoly on it. Other works and other ideas are not competition.An actual competitive market would be multiple publishers and authors using the same IP or serving the same product, and compete via adding additional content or with their storefront.
>>737080247I know youre doing a 0/10 bait but nips are corporate cock sucking retards when it comes to access and come from a culture of submission and taking pride in slavery like much of Asia. They look based because they took the best parts of western culture, founded by better values, during the freeest era in history that was the late 20th century, but they when their corporations go full p.c. they will legit die for their corpos right to replace every nip anime with a p.c. censored version of it that erases them. They literally think the femcels asking them to censor must be "those fans who are against disney modern movies" because the retards conflate any anti-corporation complaint as being inherently negative, very basic consumer rights or not ruining your life for your boss are just alien for the cucked nip, even if other places like sk gooks have it even worseThey think if any corporation owns or buys something it automatically means they can do anything without even basic feedback and things like the value of "libraries" and "archive" are alien to them too, if someone rich says they should burn all their libraries and archives they'll talk about how manly and decisive whoever it is even if its a fat woman. If al their water gets denies to them by a corporation, theyll proudly die of thirst while being angry at any rogue nip that tries to fight for his family right to drink water as a "trouble maker"
>>737082880"intellectual property" is not real property and it's owner/creator does not have an innate right to it, see >>737079569
>/v/ thinks collective bargaining is communism>/v/ thinks intellectual property is free market capitalismYou guys are goycattle to the max
>>737082967>They look basedO_o
holy shit these retards aren't even worth engaging with. it's called right to exclude btw
If the slogan had been "Let'ssave the games" instead of "Stop killing the games," this movement would have received much greater support here.
>>737083151Imagine if the slogan was "let's destroy video games"
>>737082930>if you own the rights to a work, you have a monopoly on itNo, you have sole control over it. That's a different thing from having a monopoly. You're just going to have to concede this point to me because you're wrong, and I'm right.>An actual competitive market would be multiple publishers and authors using the same IP or serving the same product, and compete via adding additional content or with their storefront.We have actual compition right now without that being true. This is also a fact, and you'll have to concede this point to me as well. You need to read more books and do more research on this topic. Also, I'm done replying to you now. You've lost the privilege to speak with me.
>>737083070Isnt right to exlude meant for property or something
>>737082967ThisI think other places like chinks and korea are even worse, but japanese are incredibly cucked when it comes to bowing their asses to any authority. You can see it in their anime even, in jigoku shojo they sent a bunch of people to hell because they complained about a politician's shitty decision getting their family members killed, and the show treated that as based and the politician as some poor noble king thats trying his best. Theyre gay enough for authority to still believe in noblese oblige. They didnt went through what europe did of purging many of their faggiest nobles, and thus ANY protest, even someone just asking for preservation like here, or not being stolen by a gacha with gamed odds is seen as evilIf they get someone going "you vill eat the bugs" to them, they wont protest, they will eat the bugs and get mad at the ameriburgers and yuros who dared not comply
>>737083151>>737083205Killing/destroying old games is good. It’s a form of Darwinism that ensures the games industry as a whole stays healthy. Being pro-killing games is being pro-games.
>>737083205That's just EA's company motto.
>>737083286and that includes property of the intellectual variety
>>737083371I thought EA motto was "bring studios in the back alley and brutally rape them"
>>737079884>Ohmygod wanting to play old videogames you already paid for is literal communism my country is ruined forever aieeeeeeeeeeeeeee!Please kill yourself
>>737083681Kill me yourself, communist.
some dead french guy said "people have the government they deserve" but I think it also applies to consumers. if all of the products you can buy are garbage it's because people keep paying money for garbage.
The communist cries as he strikes down hard working men
>>737081491it's not what you're demanding
>>737082036which violates every singoe facet of international copyright law and makes it so that publishers have no reason to continue operating in the eurozone, thanks for (not) playing!
>>737082381it's communism because it's LITERALLY communism, that's correct, thanks for finally admitting it
>>737082703provide an actual argument to counter first
>>737082967>hurr durr muh baitretarded wall of text nignored and nigoodbye'd, nigger
>>737083065>>/v/ thinks collective bargaining is communismit is>>/v/ thinks intellectual property is free market capitalismit isget fucked, commie kike
>>737083774Nah that would be providing a service that ultimately makes society a better place, which is too communist by your standards retard.
>>737083205that's literally what skg is in reality though, the complete and total destruction of all games (in the eurozone)
>>737079813Head of the movement is woke
>>737084603Sounds great, where do I sign?
>yuropoors are ssi cucked they don't recognise communism when they see ithttps://youtu.be/ZEzO2KoJq2A?si=4S9oCT4Fycr40lJE
>>737083681TOTAL COMMIE DEATH
>>737084671by donating to mossman so he can keep going to europe and giving retarded speeches in europarliament in his disheveled wrinkled streetclotches
>>737082381If I buy a game, why should the IP owner be able to take it away from me? Without payment, no less?
>>737084938Sounds like a bargain. Who wants to pay for freshly pressed armani suits?
>>737084603I really, really wish that were true.
>>737082967Well they used to be professional protesters against US occupation and corporate worrking conditions back in the days but that's woke according to 4chan
>>737079813Can you fix the cookies law first? I find the notifications annoying
>>737085101Because they are the owner of the IP, and ownership includes the right of exclusion. Trying to undermine their ownership is communism.
>YOU WILL OWN NOTHING YOU PRODUCEDLiteral communism
>>737085527But I gave you my money. If you're stealing my product away from me, then give me a refund.
>>737085527afaik, skg is not about devs forfeiting ownership of their ip
>>737081864The Nier Reincarnation situation was one of the biggest modern redpills about nips, not just about games but about their general lack of moral agency
reminder that MMOs and other live-service games are tested locally and corpo bootlickers are full of shit
>>737085527this is something skiggers will never be able to understand, since they are communist retarded niggers
>>737079813/v/ is full of contrarian faggots
>>737085681then you don't know the very first thing about skg
>>737085958where does skg state that devs must forfeit their ips?
>>737086134in the very first line
>>737085823Well shit
>>737086134If the IP owner loses their right to exclude, their ownership of the IP is lost.>>737085823The question is not over whether it is possible to make games run locally, the issue is that allowing players to run games locally undermines ownership.
>>737085527>right to exclusionthis is the first I hear of this. care to quote some document that corroborates this?copyright covers public performance, public display, reproduction, distribution, and derivatives >>737086301copyright is not about ownership. works of authorship don't have owners, they have authors
>>737079813>Games shouldn't be killed so nonchalantlyGames should definitely be killed.The only people who get fucked by these GaaS and gachas dying are complete retards who deserve to get fucked, them getting fucked over by their corpó overlords is actually a net positive to the entire world so all things considered it's objectively a morally bad thing to support this movement at all.
>>737086301>>737085914>>737085527You heard it here folks. Nintendo has officially lost the rights to the Mario IP because I played a romhack of Super Mario World 5 years ago. Now I own it. Anyone want to buy it from me?
The yuropoor tendency to willingly lick boots must be studied>Draconian laws banning social media >Bottle caps>Stop killing gamesEtc. this is why socialism is so popular in their countries
>>737086587>retarded skigger kike resorts to retarded strawmanning pilpulpredictably jewish
>>737086784I undermined Nintendo's sole right to modify their IP. By your logic, they no longer own it. ;)
If you ever sell a video of you sucking cock, you own the rights of that movie. If someone buys you a copy, that person owns that copy.If you ever decide stop being a faggot as if, lol you can't ask the guy who bought your movie to destroy his copy. just because you don't like cock anymore
>>737086924>Yuropoor """logic"""Is this why you're all atheists?
Is the hearing over? Are videogames saved?
I'm not against it, I just don't give a shit about prolonging live service garbage or the niggers who play it. More power to you if you force companies to be less jewish, I'm just bored of hearing about it.
>>737086924Ackshually, I think when it comes to porn there may be some gray area when it comes to the rights of the "IP" owner. I know of at least a few camwhores who have tried to have any traces of their old content removed from free porn sites, and it seems like plenty of them are willing to comply. I guess at that point it's at the discretion of the person who has the copy. Legally, there is probably nothing the camwhore can do about it.
This will turn into a nothingburger anyways. It's not as if companies will just accept it and not look into loopholes
>>737087214I intended to make the example about books at first. The author of a book you own can't suddenly come into your library and burn your copy because he doesn't like what he wrote anymore. You are not the holder of the IP, but the book is yours. As long as you can read and the media is in condition, you should be able to enjoy it, regardless what the author says
>>737087283Sure, but they won't be able to openly rob you either. That's basically the entire point of this.
>>737079813>why does /v/ hate SKG(You)farming
>>737079813People that want it cannot be reasoned with.
>>737085716For real. I knew they were bootlickers, but to be so beholden to "you're a thief, so nothing you say matters" is so funny
>>737085823MMOs that function off of subscription aren't even covered by the initiative, but with any luck they will be changed too.
>>737083681Just pirate it retard
>>737083312And that's why the ones that stayed in the isles are dying out, while those who left to other countries are thriving. They know their homeland's rot is terminal, so they left so their children can rebuild one day, without crap like slave mentality and tatemae standing in the way.Even Japan itself has a lot of people opposed to that bullshit. They just don't speak as often.
>>737079813it's flawed but asking the gov to do something was a shitty last resort and even I dont know if that is the right choice.But to answe your question: 4chan(nel) is astroturfed by Epstein-level elites, their rupee-paid shills, and actual bots. There might be some with reservations of the movement, but given recent events in the news, the open secret has been confirmed.
>>737079813I do support the initiative. If I were to make a argument against it. Things that require an active playerbase, is it even the same game if those players are gone?An arena shooter you can replace with bots and local servers and get a approximal experience. But If I were to try to play a MMO with no players, you can't fill it with bots and get the same experience. If we look at live service games that have been running for a longtime without version control the 3.0 version of the experience as superseded the experience of the 1.0 experience, It is functionally dead. its gone. If game ends at 5.0, which version of the game needs going to be saved? If I quit at 3.0 because of quality decline and only 5.0 gets saved. It is not even the version of the game I wanted to play because it hasn't been preserved anyways.In world of finite resources it takes effort and energy to preserve things. We have to consider that sometimes they aren't worth preserving. And that effort should go towards the things that are.
>/v/ is one person
>>737084127So you don't know then so shut the fuck up retard
Why do Yuropoors love to leech off successful people's labors like crabs in a bucket?
>>737087474They used to not be able to, but thanks to ebooks, soon even book IP owners will be able to defend their property.
It's over for Ubisoft. It's obviously going through.You WILL release the server binaries.
>>737079813The initiative is good, the EU is a dogshit jewish supranational entity and they will use this to fuck us over.
>>737079813Because /v/ actually hates videogames. The thing is that /v/ people are the worst kind of trash this world ahs to offer. They don't play and talk about videogames because they like or respect the medium, they do it because there's nothing else going for them in their lives. They're all pathetic losers who don't know what else to do other than waste time.So when there's a big cause to protect the medium, not even this one but any other one, they automatically feel repulsion. How dare people take the initiative to fight for something I believe is pure trash designed to waste time until I die???? How dare they take this shit seriously????Add to that that people here are so fucking miserable the best joy they get in their lives is making other people mad, and you get the perfect storm.
>>737086878you should learn formal logic first before you try to claim anything about logic, retard
>>737089938retarded skigger
>>737090889You still haven't told me what I'm apparently demanding
>>7370893185.0 being preserved and accessible means modders can change the gameback to previous versions. The 32 vs 32 shooter will get a group schedule if people want to play it, and if you can't possibly get 64 players under any circumstance, at least you still own the game.
>>737090849Formal logic is just brainlet math, Business major.
>>737079813>le 4chanz is one person
>>737090849Is there an error in my logic? Nintendo still retains the rights to their IP, despite me modifying it without their permission?
>>737079813If it hasn't been posted yet, SKG spoke in-front of the parliament.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSla5vfGi3A
>>737090552The authoe entering my house and burning my copy would be burglary. Why would remote deleting an ebook of mine be different?
>>737079884Spbp
>>737080891NintenCHAD board
Based
>>737079813I support Intellectual Property rights.
>>737081225This
Doesn't this exclude Chinese gacha games though? You don't pay an upfront cost to access the game, you only pay for the opportunity to gamble.
>>737085527True
Even if you don’t give a shit about games preservation, you should support it anyway solely to spite this asshole
>>737092140damn he actually made it
>>737083286IP is a form of property
>Hosting servers is literally communism! Government overreach! Slave mentality!But letting gaming companies lock you out of shit you paid for is fine and not cattle behavior? Shills must be out in force, or tons of /v/ermin are queers that like sucking on shoe polish. If being able to host your own servers, which was the norm for PC till the 2010s, will somehow destroy these large companies, then fuck em they deserve it.
Im convinced this whole thing was a psyop to kill any remaining hope that the industry would be good againJust so unbelievably grim seeing so many people argue against their own interests just out of sheer pathological contrarianism. Humanity deserves its fate, beyond video games, beyond anything really. People have completely given up to the point that they now argue FOR corporate interestsIm just so deeply deeply tired, of everything at this point
To be honest, it's hard to give a shit about an initiative that mainly just protects games that most people, including myself, couldn't be assed to buy/play in the first place. The majority of these games were commerical failures. They shut down because they were shit.
>>737081225>we hate the eussrThe EU are a means to an end to achieve the goal of stopping games being made useless>we hate governments overstepping their bounds into videogamesHow are they overstepping their bounds exactly? Or are you a pure lolbert?>we hate nannystate shitNothing to do with this. You’re spewing buzzwords out without knowing their meaning>completely infeasible to fulfill in realitySo then why are you complaining about it? If it were this impossible thing to achieve wouldn’t you just allow it to run, knowing things wouldn’t happen? Seems like with the 1000000 signatures as well as the various advancements we’ve seen so far, things are happening >we hate coomies and communismBraindead American mindset detected. And you idiots wonder why the entire planet is pointing at your country and laughing
>>737091005illiterate retarded skigger
>>737092072>>737092202>>737092292Samefriend
>>737079884Karl Marx would've been named in the Epstein leaks if he was alive recently.
>>737092358don't buy gay nigger shit if you don't want the owners to one day exclude you from it, simple ass, commie nigger
>>737092381yuropoor statist communism isn't in my interests, quite the contrary to them in plain fact
>>737092685So is burgercuck corporatist cronyism
>>737092381You'll survive.
>>737092637>all publicity is good publicityIt really is just delusional boomers who refuse to admit that AAA was a mistake.
>>737092510the ends don't justify the meansthe eussr has no grounds in getting involved in the free market or videogamesthe nannystate has literally EVERYTHING to do with what you gay communist kikeniggers want, trying to handwave shit away by buzzwording it with the "buzzword" buzzword isn't an argumenti'm the voice of reasonamericans are smarter than your retarded yurocommie kike ass
>>737092790triple gay was a mistake, that's correct, and it only exists because of retarded mouthbreathing niggers who buy gay nigger retarded shit in the first place, thanks for finally noticing, now you can stop with this dumb nigger skigger retardation already
>>737092685>umm actually I want for jewish corporations fuck my asshole to own to libskwab
>>737092783it's possible to be against both, brainlet-kun, try to strawman less
>you know we’d probably be fine if we were just given a readme doc with some instructions on how a game might be revivedAnd it’s dead. Bent the kneeWhole thing doesn’t make sense anywayIt was specifically for the crew only
>>737092893tyoical dumb skigger nigger kike, kill yourself hooknose
>>737092869Scam Citizen is going to be remembered as an indie game so no.
Ross! Ross! Ross! Ross!
>>737079813Imagine being a troll with enough mental deficiency to go against itGo fuck yourself losers
>>737093020who?
>>737079813Nihilism. It's all the rage these days.
>>737093076>durr everyone was always pro government regulation of videogames on /v/
>>737092637Yeah I don't buy that shit because most multiplayer games now are shit. But I also don't suck corpo cock like you clearly do. The more shit this industry is allowed to get away with the worse it keeps getting. Things that were standard and expected in older games are now paid shit, or somehow impossible to implement. Also basic consumer protections aren't commie, retard.
>>737092807You even type fatly
>>737093098
>>737092559Yes. Your point?
>>737087046They don't in one day go>*bangs gavel* ORDER! ORDER!>Alright, I've come to a conclusion... *music swells* Ross Dungeon, though we haven't seen eye to eye, you've convinced me, you have saved vidya!>*everybody cheers, John Videogame is escorted in, kisses Ross*There's like 15 months of bureaucracy to get through. But signs are good.
>>737092358>But letting gaming companies lock you out of shit you paid for is fineCompanies own the intellectual property.
>>737092960You're here advocating for the right of corporations to steal from you, because you think it's worse that those same corporations might come under new regulation. You are not against burgercuck corporatist cronyism.
>>737092557The only retard here is you
>>737079884Imagine still falling for 100+ year old propaganda when current day capitalism is making your life actively worse every single day and is in dire need of reform to reverse the ever increasing concentration of wealth of power in the hands of the few.Especially when you look at China's explosive rise and a big factor of it being them not dragged down by corporate "shareholder value" culture.Calling any attempt at Reform communism (even when those reforms try to just reestablished some pre-Reagan wra rules) is just how the rich and powerful try to kill anyone Reform attempt in the crib.
So how would this affect console only games? Would publishers all be legally obligated to release them on PC?
>>737079813so MODS are deleting our guy Ross' threads?threads a bout VIDEO GAMES?THEY DO IT FOR FREE
>>737081385Stop lying, liar
>>737093436First Sale Doctrine
Owning the IP does NOT automatically give the IP holder the right to stop you from consuming a copy you legally obtained
>>737093937First sale doctrine can't actually function for purely digital purchases unless the game files had a kill switch that deleted themselves from your machine after you re-sell the license. This isn't actually possible to enforce because there would inevitably be ways for the end-user to disable that kill switch. In any case, there are a thousand reasons why we don't want this to be a thing.
>>737094026Zenimax literally mandate you delete all files and destroy any physical copies in their EULA. So they kill your access to the game and then demand you destroy it yourself.
>>737094332Anon, people ignore the EULA all the time. It's why digital piracy exists.
>>737085527IP is fraud.
>>737094409Cool, they're still demanding something explicitly illegal but aren't getting shit for it.
>>737079884oh wow a capitalist bootlicker what a brave and rare viewpoint
>>737093749>tranime poster suprised eceleb thread #7 got deleted
>>737094564Thanks, I appreciate it
>>737079884owning the things you buy is actually peak capitalism
>>737095242You can't own a service
>>737079813I hope you get everything you asked for and nothing you wanted
>>737093436Which only exists as a mechanism of encouraging innovation, it is not an innate or unalieable right.If IP laws are getting in the way of fostering innovation or consumer rights, it can and should be changed.
>>737095242Slaves don't get to own anything
>>737095484Who made games a service, was it the communist?
>>737095242So why don't I own the copy of a game I bought?
>>737095936Who made games a service?
>>737085234The US occupation was the least of their punishments of preserving nationalism when they literally fucked up the Pacific trying to assert themselves as the master race of Asia.
>>737082601video games and entertainment isn't the same as something that can kill you, you fucking retard
>>737096272Are games services? They have licenses that apparently can expire.
>>737096481Are game services?
>>737079813Nintendo websites tend to be full of MAGAts. MAGAts tend to hate and vote against things that are against their best interests. /v/ is full of Nintendo fans.
>>737097083Nintendo has the third most left-leaning fanbase for video game companies behind only Sony and ArcSys.
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All this is going to do is have companies tell you that you're buying a game that is going to shutdown eventually, and anyone with a brain knows what game they're getting into if it relies on servers. Nothing is going to happen unless if companies are no longer given that option to be compliant.
>>737093712You should still be able to play console games offline once official servers go down. They could also use P2P matchmaking for certain games like they used to during 7th gen to continue online MP without having to host their own official servers. They could even allow people to host their own servers for console games and give console players access to server browsers since PC crossplay is already a thing anyway.
>>737080247Nips are mad, livid even, that someone brought back the NieR gacha game that went EoS, for free. Their opinions are invalid.
>>737093032I think he actually looks better as a rat. Albeit it he somehow manages to look ugly as one, even to someone who likes the look of your average skaven
>>737079813>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??Because get a real problem.
>>737084603Based Euchads can't stop winning.
>>737079813/v/ doesnt. Corporations do. You should've seen the pajeet screeching as the initiative got unanimous support from the members. It was awesome
>>737079813>why does /v/ hate SKG??Terminal Contrarianism
>>737087214That's because of how copyright legislation works in the EU.Authors and actors retain likeness rights and can legally demand removal of their likeness from a work for which they signed away their copyright rights, in sofar as their appearance in the work in some way harms their public reputation. Which for porn actors definitely is a thing.
>>737079813Because I care about game preservation. And before you say>pirate itwhat I meant to say it is I want to be able to buy a game at any time. I know that's hard for older games, I get that, but in this day and age there is 0 logic in removing digital games from online stores. That's what I want.SKG, on the other hand, does not fight for that. Its goal is to keep servers up for multiplayer games that have 5-6 active players.
>>737079813Because europeon regulatory faggots are the root of all evil.>BUT I WANNA HAVE GAMES FOREVERSo don't buy live service only games>BUT I NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO WIPE MY ASSThen kill yourself, homosexual kike nigger socialist eurojap faggot
>>737080906>then you'd be against intellectual property rightsI am, in fact, with BARE MINIMUM laws against fraudulent representing oneself as the "original" or "official" version when they aren't (fraud is always unjust and should result in the immediate extermination of the jews). And you're probably right to say that would fix it. Kinda makes StOp KiLlInG gAmEs a gay communist regulation op anyone with a White IQ would naturally oppose.
>>737082381Licenses are innately communism because they can only ultimately be given by a central authority government.
>>737085527"""Intellectual""" """property""" is a communist concept in the first place. It absolutely no way are you or anyone else a legitimate owner of anything I think or copy, which deprives you of absolutely no rights whatsoever.
>>737082381There is no such thing as Intellectual "Property"
>>737085593No one in this thread is on the level to produce anything these talks are about anywayIf it benefits me the little man in particular that's what freedom is baby
>>737079884Do NOT look up who enforces copyright infringement. You WILL shit bricks.
>>737079884You will have rights and you will be happy.You are welcome, slave.
>>737089318i often just like to boot up the shooting range. but the point is that whatever happens i can boot up the game and play.unironically i wish i could boot up concord, read its retarded lore and see what the characters felt like to play. maybe there's a cool idea buried somewhere.i think a few concord matches with anons would make for a fun afternoon.
>>737097845how dare you play old abandoned games, goy. you should be pigging out on the next one you anti-semite!
First SKG, now this. Why is Europe so anti-semitic?
>>737080247>real valid counterpointsmay we see them?
>>737093749We need to make room in the catalog for another 20 Metro threads filled with /pol/trannies leaking pus from their amholes.
>>737099241>Its goal is to keep servers up for multiplayer gamesmfw(my face when) I spread misinformation.
>>737103641Every pro-SKG youtuber that was shilled on this albanian furry board was talking about mp servers. So...yeah.
>>737099241One of the MEPs said he wants to establish a "Project Gutenberg" but for games. Games that are no longer sold would be kept as a public book, much like you can just read Moby-Dick online.
>>737079813I hate when immoral people are forced to act morally because I can't support moral people as easily.
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>>737079884You're bending over to spread your asscheeks for jewish billionaire cum
>>737079813SKG doesn't matter though, the only games worth preserving have been preserved anyways, that is old emulated games/roms, GOG games etc. Why would you want to preserve mobile slop?
>>737102396>not showing the cherry on top, which is the number of sigs gathered in 3 months
>>737079884>the most liberal shit ever>communistBurgers lack any political knowledge
>>737103806Read the FAQ instead of spreading misinfo.
>>737084709>bet it's going to be about the UK>it's about the UK's healthcareUK fucking sucks at everything and anything it does. Meanwhile the rest of Europe has a functional system because they're not cousin fucking inbreeds.
>>737105076It takes money from slop developers and makes them think about not making it in the first place, which is good.
>>737079884>communism is when you ask the seller to uphold his half of the contract
>>737105419You commie!
>>737105493>You commie
>>737102396>>737105085>france 745%>spain 325%>ireland 300%>belgium 218%>netherlands 201%>finland 193%>denmark 188%>sweden 143%>poland 123%>portugal 114%current based country rankings in the EU
>>737079813>So once again, why does /v/ hate SKG??Americans.
>>737102396How is being against an ethnic supremacist state killing the natives anti-semitic? Would you call someone who's against fascism anti-christian? The zionist mind cooks the most bizzare things.
>>737106221Did Chet ever explain in greater detail why he thinks SKG sucks?
>>737096953>>737079884 Kill yourself retarded fuck i own the files and back there was called physical media we owned shit till you fucktards became fat and lazyfucks and enabled companies like ea, blizzard and bethesda to put microtransaction and remove physical media entirely and even with fewer physical media that left some of them fucking tell you in the box that the service will expire because even despite the fact it's physical it still requires you to connect to their servers for the gay ass microservices that have full control over your files and this fact only shows you're a sheep. you're peak dogwhistle liar and commie
>things are actually going well in EU parliament>amerifat/jap bootlickers are in full cope mode and shit up the threads more than ever beforeSKG is going full steam ahead, the haters can keep sucking kike cockyou will own everything and be happy
>>737107094he explained it in that image, illiterate retard
>>737105142howabout you read the thread(s) instead
>>737099241>in this day and age there is 0 logic in removing digital games from online storesthat's because you know nothing less than nothing about game development, game publushing, and digital distribution
>>737093510strawman harder, retard
>>737093261never heard of her
>>737079813test
>>737107094Because it goes against corporate interests.
>>737079813Fuck that Keep Killing Games.
>>737079884SPBP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXdmoeaYZ9Y
>>737111893https://multimedia.europarl.europa.eu/en/webstreaming/committee-on-internal-market-and-consumer-protection-ordinary-meeting-committee-on-legal-affairs-com_20260416-1100-COMMITTEE-IMCO-JURI-PETIhere is the complete full hearing
>>737090554It's probably not gonna be retroactive
>>737102396>>737106154Full rankings:>France: 746.22%>Italy: 479.28%>Spain: 326.39%>Ireland: 301.18%>Belgium: 218.57%>Netherlands: 202.58%>Finland: 193.74%>Denmark: 189.23%>Sweden: 143.55%>Poland: 124.20%>Portugal: 114.75%>Germany: 74.17%>Greece: 68.23%>Slovenia: 66.77%>Luxembourg: 49.20%>Bulgaria: 26.73%>Austria: 25.99%>Croatia: 21.86%>Cyprus: 20.92%>Malta: 20.76%>Romania: 18.68%>Slovakia: 13.26%>Lithuania: 12.46%>Estonia: 11.14%>Latvia: 9.52%>Czechia: 9.06%>Hungary: 7.38%
>>737081612>support their games foreverStill doing this eh?
>>737114048>France: 746.22%I FUCKING KNEW E33 WAS A JEETED BOTTED ASTROTURFED ANTISEMITIC TRASH GAME FUCKING FROGS
>>737079884land of the free and retard
>>737082630>you can't force companies to stop putting lead in paint!
>>737079813>why does /v/ hate SKG??because most of us are uneducated retards (aka Americans)
