The raped
>>737105350Your job raped them.
>>737105350Arc Niggers stil seething lol
>>737105489Both games suck. Both games have a polarized user base consisting of people that just want to play PvE and people that just want to do PvP. This whole genre is a shitty one that will likely die unless someone comes along and finds a solution to this issue. Better idea, scrap it and remove online capabilities from all consoles going forward. The ability to connect to the internet ruined gaming. Try and dispute it.
>>737105350Marathon threads are boring since they stopped paying shills for replying.
>>737105892Git gud
>>737105350You're still shilling this?
>>737106037See, you can't dispute it. My point exactly.
>>737106213They expected another highguard and got btfo
>>737105350I don't envy Halobros. Between Bungie and 343 you guys have been cucked and fucked so hard across the ages.
>>737106213>>737106269a game living longer than 2 months is not the success you think it is, 7k - 20k players and declining is not something to be proud
>>737106375Yea, it sucks mate. I've fallen out of love with Halo and just don't care anymore. Personally, I want the IP to die so it's legacy is tainted no more.
>>737106213Yeah, those 7k players must be really engaged right now.
>>737106213Did better than Concord and Highguard award.
>>737106442>game will be dead after a week>game will be dead after two weeks>game will be dead after three weeks>game will be dead after a month>a game living longer than 2 months is not the success you think it is
>>737106614jannies owned your other post troon.
>>737106614>game is dead after a week>game is still dead after two weeks>game is still dead after three weeks>game is still dead after a month>a dead game being propped up longer than 2 months is not the success you think it isYou are a necrophiliac.
>>737106678nope, that wasn't my post. chuds getting desperate
>>737106760>F12
>>737106805chuds getting desperate
>>737106827Post a video of you refreshing you screen if you're not lying.
>>737105350i refunded it in an hour, its the ugliest motherucking game i have ever seen. what the fuck was bungie thinking with this?>100% of all the animations are just copy pasted from destiny 2it took ZERO EFFORT to make this trash game, and yet it cost a QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS TO MAKE.
>>737107062>upset destiny player
>>737107117not only that, im upset bungie demands 40$ for an asset flip game you could make in a few hours, because all the textures are missing.
>>737107062That quarter billion was spent paying assets
>>737107062That's because that studio lost all their talent, so all they can do is copy paste gameplay and assets from destiny.
none of the assets are from destiny
>>737107317literally everything in marathon is copy pasted from destiny 2. >the grenade throw animations>the reloading>the jumping>the vaultingthe NPC with a shield?yeahhhhh......thats the Red Legion guy from Destiny 2. >even the critical hit spot is in the same placeLMAO
>>737106442Maybe next time, kiddo
>>737107317>the grenade throw animations>the reloading>the jumping>the vaultingthis shit looks the same in all games
I'm so glad this garbage flopped. Bungie cultists aren't human and deserve to be put on display as public laughingstocks
>>737107317brother its the same fucking game
>>737107527if it was the same game all these destiny fags would be happy
>chuds had to beg jannies to delete all the posts that raped and embarrassed themLol don't worry anons, I saved the image
>>737107519I'm glad there are games around that disabuse people of their cultish notions- though it does seem there are still a few hard masochists who like it when bungle shits in their mouth.
>>737107501nope, it doesnt. bungie took zero effort on marathon.>the npc enemies are just Red Legion from destiny 2 but with bright faggot colours nowpathetic.
>>737105350>major update made them LOSE playerswhat's this business strategy called?
>>737107762
They literally lost more players from Destiny 2 making this shit than they gained. When you keep that in mind it's on par with Concord imo. At least Concord didn't have a NEGATIVE player count.
>>737108186D2 has around 10k more players across all consoles daily, and that number is getting bigger. People would rather play a raped corpse than their new product, which is saying something
>>737105489You are completely mindbroken
i was raped by bungie
>>737105350I wonder if they are keeping it around so they can "fix" it with a 2.0.
I feel like shooters should take a break and everyone should just go back to whatever previous shooter they found fun. But alas consume new thing.
>>737105489Arc Raiders didn't censor the name marathon in their chat
>hire pro extraction shooter players>they give feedback>ignore it all>game failsWow what a waste of money!
>>737105350Yup, dead any day now, mm hm, our supreme thought leader asmongold said so, yuh hm, he’s never failed us.
>>737109405Are you saying marathon was a success?
>>737107791apparently it's "winning" and owning the chuds.
>>737109430>>737109486see >>737106614
>>737109552Wait why did you reply to the thread again as if you're a new person?
>>737109596desperate as always
>Bungie can only afford to pay a single shill to spam here Lmao they're done
sigma zoomers and the woke chuds having their daily cope session
>>737110053>tfw almost got all trophies>missing VIP and LVL 100 one>currently level 45Marathoners in the house tonight… I… dont think im gonna make it.
>>737110218None of you are gonna make it
>>737105350Just can't stop thinking about that game, huh?
>>737110053What do you do in your life that allows you to play that much?
Gay Destiny - > Zestiny
>>737105892not really, one has 90k~ people playing it 6 months after release and the other is on 25k~ in only 1 and a half month, now guess which one has the bloated AAA budget
>>737110259I don't play, I keep games running while I'm at work to epically troll /v/ with the screenshots
>>737107609destiny drones arent even happy with destiny though? they hate it because its the same pile of shit
>>737106614>a game living longer than 2 months is not the success you think it isWdym by this? Suicide Squad dead after nine month. Is this successful game?
>>737110417Yea, I'm not some fag that compares player numbers all day. Both games suck ass. I played them both, didn't like either of them.
Bungie has been raped. All that awaits them now is shutting down Marathon or putting it in maintenance mode. Marasissies thought they were safe because Marathon didn't go down like the hindenburgs that were Concord and Highguard... little did they know they are on the Titanic and its already capsizing. Marasissies will continue to deny reality even while they drown. The game's fate is sealed, accept the end is coming and embrace the DOOM.
>>737108335Its dying
>>737109552apart from anonymous internet shitposts is there anyone with skin in the game for getting it wrong saying it's a financial success on it's $200m+ budget?
>>737111640What is even going on in Destiny now that the Darkness is defeated?I thought that was the whole plot
>>737111850Who cares? They haven't added a new enemy race since before COVID anyway. The plot is probably some ai generated shit as usual, a sideshow villain from 3-4 years ago, and killing the same fallen/cabal/whatever that you always are.
>>737105350>Concord-like
>>737111897>They haven't added a new enemy race since before COVID anywayHonestly its quite crazy, making a new faction can't be that expensive
>>737112030Destiny's been on maintenance mode for a good long while. Fans would shit on you for pointing it out but they recycled shit 24/7 it was ridiculous.
>>737107062The quarter billion was spent paying indians to steal assets
>>737112153No kidding, but really I find these live service games with a main story fascinating because writers will end up running out of ideas eventually, you can see it with WoW, Destiny is just the latest title with thatGW2 also makes me curious in that regard, evil dragons all died a while ago, but apparently its still chugging along
It's a cool game but it's just too intense for the average person, I can't even play several nights in a row there's a mental barrier to loading in that I can only equate to VR. Like I know I'll probably have a good time but I just don't want to put on the headset right now
5k low incoming next week
>>737111784no, and no one has suggested that. the game needs a lot of work to become viable long term. that said, people have been calling this game dead for months now, and they've been proven wrong. hunt showdown for example spent over two years with under 10k ccu.
>>737112889holy fucking cope hunt showdown didn't receive this kind of marketing
>>737111850Destiny is tired and has run its course, no matter how much Destinyfags want it to return. Even a Destiny 3 will have to be its own new thing and Bungie cares more abot Marathon and whatever the other bigger project is than getting Destiny 3 out any time soon.Bungie wanted to make PVP content for a whole decade after Halo and Destiny never worked well with that, that's why there's a lot more passion in Marathon than the last 5 years of Destiny 2 content
AYO
>>737106375>I feel bad about shiteaters, since shit all you'rve been given to eat is shit?
>>737113907>a lot more passion in Marathon than the last 5 years of Destiny 2 content>passion>when Marathon is mostly recycled and reused Destiny stufflol
>click /v/ catalog>see a maratroon thread>think haha I'll check steamdb again and see its playercount drop a little moreI do this every single day haha, I've looked at the steamdb page so many times when I type "s" in my search bar it's the first thing that pops up lol
>>737114419
>>737114358That's the joke.
>>737114358He's got a point they passionately stole art and had to create flat textures for the few new assets.
Real talk, does anybody here actually believe this game will be shutdown imminently with D3 still on the horizon? How will Sony even sell people on yet another GaaS of they do?>hey guys, i know we shut down Concord and Marathon, and also cancel a bunch of other GaaS, most notably TLOU Faction… yeah… shame about that one, but please trust us with another one LMAO D3 GET HYPEDYou mf cannot be this stupid.
>>737114645I said from the start that they’d give the game at least six months which would be about two seasons. Season 2 is all we have info about with it’s singular “new” map.
>>737105350>maybe we're too hard on Marathon, have any of us even given it a fair shake?>well you know what they say, more than two shakes and you're playing with it>at least someone would be!
>>737114645D3 isn't happeningeven if it does, people will be wary of bungieeveryone is tired of their jewish tricks
>>737114645They'll do what they did with D2 and downsize development to where it makes money. That or it will be put on maintenance mode with very little other than maybe regular wipes and just coast like Anthem until its not worth upkeeing the servers anymore. I don't think Marathon will shutdown unless Bungie gets completely obliterated by Sony. Layoffs and restructuring is likely with a focus shift back on Destiny. I have a feeling that depending on the peformance of the next update for Destiny 2 will determine if they even do a Destiny 3. Though more likely Destiny 2 would just continue getting updates instead since I doubt Sony will be willing to drop hundreds of millions more on Bungie to develop another game that might not break even like Marathon.
>>737114645I don't think Destiny 3 would be a success, and more to the point I don't think Bungie has the time or the money to make it.
>>737105350>"9/10" that barely anyone wants to play>5-6/10 user reviewsWhy does this keep happening?
>>737113394that's irrelevant, big companies spend big on marketing, smaller companies don't
>>737114927Yes but Marathon already came and went from the mainstream consciousness, so there isn't going to be a second wind resurgence where it goes viral you fucking weasel
>>737111850destiny is dead and almost abandonedstill, destinyfags are gonna paypiggy the shit out of destiny 3, so it's just a matter of time before sony forces bungie to do it
>>737114645>D3 still on the horizonsource?knowing Bungie, Destiny 3 is probably not even in preproduction
>>737114814Ba-dumph!
>>737114993>Yes but Marathon already came and went from the mainstream consciousnessMore twitch viewers than Crimson Desert and Requiem lol
>>737115241*Checks* why are you literally lying?
>>737105350sorry i cant play morei work 10 hour shifts and come home to a 1 year oldi can barely game anymore
So are you marathon fags having fun with this piece of shit ?
>>737115542yes
>>737112030Considering the Scorn just reused Fallen skeletons and animations yeah
>>737114993>Yes but Marathon already came and went from the mainstream consciousnessif it came and went it would already be dead, and it's not>so there isn't going to be a second wind resurgence where it goes viralit doesn't need to go "viral" to slowly gain numbers like hunt did>you fucking weaselwe don't have weasels here in australia. why do you hate them?
Friend of mine who's a destinyfag bought the game immediatly and hyped it to us as the revival of Bungie. Then he barely put 3 hours into it and forgot about it all together.
>>737116654He had a blast
>>737115241>Twitch viewers What about metrics that actually matter like sales and player numbers
End Bungie.
>>737114645I don't really care about speculation, I just want Marathon to survive and get updates.
>>737117645I'm sorry for your loss.
How do we save Bungie from themselves?
Wonder how long it will take this time for mods to delete the thread?
>>737118162they've deleted posts in here already, I guess it depends on what the OP is
>>737105892Wait for Godzaki to release duskbloods.It will be so fucking funny when duskbloods outsells marathon and arc combines on the fucking Brick 2.
>>737118102why are they all aiming at the nigger
Just a reminder for all the 'dead game' folks, the original talking point was that it was 'dead on arrival'then dead in week 1then dead in week 2then dead in week 3then dead in week 4then dead in month 2There's people in this thread now talking about sony investor calls and shit because beleive it or not this was never another concord situation and they are having to rely on speculation about what a hypothetical sony investor might think at this stage.Not to mention, if player numbers get so dire, it will likely go free to play and linger on for ages.
>>737118274Quit being shitlord spammers then. You gotta get creative with your b8. All this:>Blast this>Lightning in the bottle that>here look at the steam charts LOL>OHHH RETURN TO FORMits weak shit, and unbecoming of this place. We are fucking 4channelers god dammit. Act like it.
is it free? ill download it if it is and give it a go
>>737119114I will blast lightning out my ass into a bottle to return steam charts to form
>>737119073I don't think anyone expected it to crash as fast as Concord or Highguard, but it's headed towards the chopping block at this rate and seems like a complete failure based on the expectations. Guess it depends what you consider dead, but a AAA live service game just lingering is as good as being dead
>>737119264>but it's headed towards the chopping block at this rateThese games grow overtime and peak much later than release
>>737119223its a free $40
>>737119356Bro get off the copium
>>737119356>constantly trends down from the beginning, bleeding players>"just give it time bro it will grow"
>>737119356Speaking of which, whats going on with Hunt. Did they finally add a solo only queue? I cant imagine the game spiking like that for anything else.
>>737119562Humble plus sale
>>737119073I don't know why you shills think pushing this '/v/ said it would flop within 24 hours, but it didn't, so the game didn't flop' angle does anything except draw attention to how badly the game is doing./v/ predicted a flop, which occurred, and how long Marathon gets to stay online is Sony's decision since it's their money (being wasted).>it will go F2PLil bro, when it was F2P in the playtest they did, they couldn't even get 150k and half of those people left the next day.>>737119562Ironically enough, much of the recent interest and growth in Hunt is because of Marathon coming out and flopping.
>>737119114nah making fun of the lowest bidder jeet shills unironically spamming these canned phrases in a vain attempt to advertise sloppa continues being funny. whoever hires them is getting scammed
tehehe
>/vg/ asshurt avatar faggot makes these threads every single day for weeksEvery day. And there’ll be a reply like, “oh well Marathon dying every day” or something.
>>737105350Rapedgapedand unable to escaped
>>737120431He's having more fun than the "people" playing this game
>hehe look at me hating on this game, do I fit in with you guys now?
>>737105350Let’s be serious, how can we save Marathon?
>>737121112>tranny flag faggot shilling for a multi billion dollar company and sending them kind letterslmaooo what the fuck
>>737105350Boring game
>>737121112The game can't be saved without spending a year (at least) to reboot it into something that both PVE and PVP players can engage with on their terms. (Turning it into Destiny/Arc, in other words.)But Bungie seems intent on dying on the 3v3 PVP hill, so let them.
>>737121112Send Bungie more kind emails :)
>>737119073get em, sis
>>737121112bungietrannies are the most raped
Fent reactors shutting down... I... can't.... breathe....
>>737121112>layoffs>constant stress about playercounts dropping daily>Sony breathing down their necks looking for any excuse to dissolve the studio>some ResetEra random sends a "kindly worded email">Hey I hope you feel better :):):)>I really like yur gaem :):):)whew that fixed everything
>>737121362>Le pveEat shit and die
>>737122064>Eat shit and dieMarathon is busy doing that, because they spent a quarter of a billion making a PVP game, lel
>>737119114Game doesn't deserve my best effort. I'm just sitting here, watching the game die, and that's enough for me. >>737120431It's a AAAA release and the centerpiece of Sony's live service push this console cycle. You gonna bot the report button to get this deleted too?
>>737114814lmao
flop
>>737110247well, statistically 41% of them aren't
>>737124584I wonder if it will even hit 30k this weekend.
>>737122064>Gray Zone Warfare a literal who extraction shooter adds PvE mode>It gets more players than maraflopYou marakeks are truly raped and constantly seethe over PvEchads.
>>737114645The Marathon dev team will at the very least be downsized, from there they'll hard pivot to casual-only content. If it's still not seeing results in a year's time, they'll kill it.To be clear, there's no evidence that D3 is on the horizon at all. Something they could consider doing to get one out very quickly is converting the next expansion into a new game instead.
>>737124000>You gonna bot the report button to get this deleted too?If your shit got deleted its not someone "botting" its a janny sitting in the thread deleting stuff he doesnt like, marathon has had a consistent troon janitor who sits in threads and deletes things he doesn't like.
>>737124931It didn't hit 30k last weekend
>>737125340Yeah, but this week was the big mid-season 'balance patch,' and I think it's the last major content release before the reset in June. It's like when Cryo first dropped.
>>737105892mmos figured this out 30 years ago with pvp servers and pve servers
>>737125163>See Steam reviewsYou get what you pay for
>>737114645There's 2 wild cards here, and that's Sony's internal strategy, and the amount of MTX. The key condition is if the losses in total are big enough for normie investors to notice. I think MTX is ass. I'm not seeing people buy the skins. They had to spruce up the offerings because they were niggardly and cheap looking. It's not showing up on any of the usual rev measurments, but it's also hard to read, so I could be completely wrong. The fact that they went ahead with Fairgame$ is amazing in and of itself, calling itself an extraction game, and a sign of how shit marathon is doing and their level of desperation on live service shit.. As far as ongoning expenses, they need millions just to keep the servers up. And further dev is infamously expensive bungie rates. They pulled their devs from GDC, but I'm not seeing any kind of development that would change their direction. Their current content level with their maps is an embarassment, and most players will never actually do anything on Cryo anyways. I don't think they pull the plug until they have some idea of what the fuck they want Bungie to be doing going forward. And no shitposting or posing, I have no fucking clue what they should be doing, or even what the possibilities are. Modern bungie isn't self sufficient, and needs lots of contractors to get anything out the door. Do you give current Bungie a quarter billion dollars for a deep PVE mode? Give up and put a half billion dollars in to D3 or Not Halo? Deploy them to support some other games? Strap them to a 500k hellbomb?
>>737114838>Putter out like anthem. This is most likely, but I'd also keep in mind that Sony may be willing to take a loss in the 2 digit or 3 digit range in millions to keep this thing alive longer. We still don't know what Marathon's ongoing stable player count is. The group that would go through more than one wipe and keep going, other than that it's a lot lower than now. We also know the point at which they start having serious matchmaking problems, and lose flexiblity on even trying new modes because it will split the playerbase, and parts of asia are feeling that now.We'll see soon enough on their upcoming roadmap. Are they putting enough money and effort in to make a new AA game? I don't think they can or will.>>737117645Seriously anon. Bungie's better offf just giving up on this and making a new game.
>>737121112I don't think even contaminating the city's estradol supply with arsenic will be enough anon.>>737120850Lurk more noobcakes. This isn't even hate.>>737119814>Oh it's only an anthem class failure!!
>>737125954>Bungie's better offf just giving up on this and making a new game.This is the only game Bungie ever made that I had interest in. I won't be playing Destiny 3. I just want this one.
>>737119356Fair question. They grow over time because they tend to launch in early access, with low budget and low marketing. The successes here take the early player input and build something worth playing, and gain attention, so their player numbers climb. That's absolutely not the case with Marathon. they already have spent a AAAA level on development. They have a similarly huge marketing push, where they hired out all the big streamers twice. Core audiences have seen it, and this is what they've got. The rest rejected it or tried it and rejected it/abandoned it. So for it to gain, where are the people coming from and why? Not streamers and their audience. Not the extraction players. So what's left? Maybe some crazy hail mary transformation like fortnite adding building and battle royall or going from titanfall 2 to apex, which is almost building a new fucking game. Where do you see the players joining from? Because I don't think someone's gonna see "ooh, it's dire marsh but NIGHTGIME", and get his friends to pay 120 to buy in.
>>737125767Sony makes most of their money through platform fees (it's in their financial reports) and MTX. Marathon isn't a MTX monster because of the art style if nothing else, and you already mentioned Bungie having to add more skins and change MTX pricing because nobody was buying anything. There's no way Marathon is making any serious MTX money.>millions for serversNo, but it's probably a few hundred thousand a month at least since these are the fancier 60 tic rate servers or smth. The salaries are the real killer, since it's still 300 people at Bungie on Marathon.>what do you do with BungieThat's the million dollar question and all we can do is speculate until Sony's next big financial call in a few weeks, if they even talk about it at all.
>>737126591I mean servers at this level tend to go by extended contracts, and I could see sony, even if they had give up, just letting it go until the end of server contract, or until they have a new game to push that needs more servers.Which leads to the potentiial hilarity of Marathon continuing to survive because Farigames and Horizon hunters crash so hard that they're better off leaving the servers up for marathon.Although having marathon's servers go to Horizon...which then dies is also a good enough outcome for me as well.
>>737121112Steiner's attack will save Marathon.
>>737127213Flopathon's chart analytics projects Marathon going under 1k players by mid-June if the current loss rate maintains. The matchmaking will probably fundamentally break if the game goes beneath 15k peaks because nobody is going to wait 5m+ to get gaped by sweats in 30 seconds.>Horizon live service slopI don't even know when it's supposed to come out. All I remember about it, aside from the ugly characters, is that they did a local playtest the same weekend Marathon did its server slam, which seemed insulting (but funny) to me
>>737121112It's insane how parasocial the gaming industry is. They're buying a fucking product. Imagine if these faggots felt like they had to send "kindly worded emails" to the people who worked on Morbius.Fucking lunatics.
>>737128087Mein fuhrer...
>>737128476DSP will outlive marathonthe King never stops
>>737120850I'm afraid you might be lost. I believe you were looking for a place called "resetera" but unfortunately you must have typed "4chan" by mistake
>>737128354Asia, which is well below 10k, maybe 8 k? Is already having matchmaking failures in some modes at some times.I mean at SOME point, you expect the loss to slow down to it's core players, just because of the people who spent 40 and want their money's worth, and the people who really, REALLY like the kind of rapefest that this game is, like that one anon who's tracking his hours.
>>737121112holy fucking copebetter ask him how much he spent on the game. fucking retarded liberals
>>737128835I mean that would be the case even if the game was a smashing success
>>737121229>tranny flag faggot shilling for a multi billion dollar company and sending them kind lettersthey're completely un-aware of how sad they are, yet try and project that onto anyone who's not left-wing.I call them, the Gaped.
[Heartbreaking News] Marathon isn't in the top 100 most played or top 100 global best sellers
Arcbros...why did Embark rugpull us
>>737114913Same with movies and music. People are realizing that critical darlings and awards show winners are not always good.
>>737131025maratroons getting mogged by a single player pedophile game that cost $20 more
>>737131025[Heartwarming News]
>>737131025
>>737131025doesn't this mean their MTX revenue is complete garbage
>>737131025So, by revenue, fucking Grounded, HUNT is beating marathion. Hell,even chinese shovelware BID KING at 3 dollars is beating marathon in rev.
>>737105892its hard. when you have two distinct game modes that require the same guns but different damage output for multiple different targets and gane modes, one mode is gonna take priority over the rest. >when pvp wins out, you get shit like marathon or tarkov. marathon loses players daily and the other is always gonna be small, but dedicated. >when pve wins out, you get arc raiders and helldivers 2. both doing ok, but they are pretty shit in terms of content. meanwhile single player games sell millions.
>The mid season update made players go up for 1 day This game unironically has some of the worst player retention I've ever seen for a live service shooter
>marathon>zero matches on rule34DOA
>>737131708Many such cases
maratroons: I dont think about you at all also maratroons: ARC RAIDERS ARC RAIDERS ARC RAIDERS ARC RAIDERS
>>737131859only five days to get those damage challenges done, better hurry
>>737131937only five days til you hit under 20k at peak, better consult your 400,000 discord sisters
>>737131859Arc Raiders made some post on Twitter with some cryptic lettering and maratroons had an actual meltdown saying they were copying marathon
>>737131390Garbage is an understatement. Shovelware with an overwhelming negative revew rating is out earning it.
>>737131701
>>737132145so on top of only selling 1.3m they're not making shit off MTX kekaroo
>>737132264wait a minute that background...
>>737131708 I raped bungie.
>>737131859To be fair, there have been tons of threads comparing Marathon's player count to that of Arc Raiders, so it's not the genuine player's fault that it's on the mind. Hell, all that discussion even made me buy Arc Raiders just to see what all the hoopla was about. It's alright. I like the sliding and big map size.
>>737133130I watched and did not help either of you.
>>737119356>Line constantly going upthat's the opposite of marathon.
>>737129004>you expect the loss to slow down to its core playersThat's basically what's been happening since launch, and the achievement stats tell the same story: It's a small (and shrinking) group of people who really like the game, because surprise fucking surprise, that's the way niche genres tend to go. The attrition is probably just natural, with peoples' attention spans ever shrinking, even for games they like. The bigger story is that there's little to no growth, so it's just the original niche audience slowly falling off.And if you're someone who hasn't bought the game and does even the smallest looking into it (reading forums or whatever), all you see are stories about how people are getting steamrolled by sweats or sniped across the map by cheaters. Who would want to come into a game like that?
>>737131859The jealousy over Arc Raiders goes all the way back to Bungie with the *** ******* thing. Even the paid Marathon shills apparently had orders to shit talk Arc whenever possible, and they'd always use the same five or six (dishonest) images to try to attack the game. It was shameless (and embarrasingly bad)
Arcbros, I don't feel so good
Arena looter shooters are fucking dead. When is everyone going to accept that fact? Every single title that has come out that does this has died a screaming death within three months. It is not a popular genre. It's a genre people convince themselves is popular, and then they buy the newest thing to play with everyone else, whereupon they realize, yet again, it is shit and stop playing.
>>737119356yeah, usuallyyou see how one line go up and one line go downthat bad
>>737119356The difference here is that Hunt is an actually fun game with cowboy guns.
>>737114814
>>737114814Geoff would love this
>>737132110 Marathon season 3 WILL surpass ack raiders chud.
>>737118706It's going to be on Switch 2, of course it will sell well. Not only will it have the Nintendo boost, but there is going to be nothing else to play, just like with Xbox and PS5.
>>737135425>Marack-
these people are un-fucking-real actual roblox generation
>>737136131the lore is that everything on that planet is 3d printed
PLS BUNGIE RAPE ME I WANT SOME SEGGGGSSSSS
>>737136213>It looks like shit, on purpose!Wowie zowie sign me up!
Are the marafaggots need mental help
>>737136213if they gotta use lore as excuse for art direction they might have a problem, might as well say everything far from earth is low poly because god didnt have time to render it properly yet
>>737136414destibros do
>>737108335what happened?
>>737136414>AreAll* christ im gonna go take a nap
>>737136414holy ESL
>>737136497Don't worry, that made it even funnier.
>>737136131kind of pointless to post this in the echo chamber that is the marathon subreddit
>>737136414esl king W
>>737136131They're playing roblox with the Minecraft HD RTX mod
>>737136131 Is this phantom forces?
>>737136352>>It looks like shit, on purpose!>Wowie zowie sign me up!
>>737136213You'd think with the effort saved and a AAAA budget, they'd have more maps. One of them completely unusable to the normies.
>>737121112>(no reply)
>>737118949He paid with a counterfeit 20
Why is marathon a failure? I thought the BDF told me it was a good game?
I genuinely liked Marathon but haven't played in weeks. It isn't the sort of game that retains. I think the reason their numbers keep dropping is because most of their player base (who didnt instantly quit/refund) went through the same process:>first impression: "wtf is this shit?" You are intrigued but end up more offput by the UI and artstyle than you are intrigued. You probably quit after a few hours or one gameplay session.>after quitting, you occasionally find yourself thinking about it. Feel like you didn't quite "get it" and are missing something.>you go back in a 2nd time. This time you get more drawn-in. More of the systems start clicking and you begin to understand the gameplay/momentum>at this point you are kind of hooked. You will probably play a lot for a short window, maybe 15 - 30 hours as you try grinding up, unlocking upgrades, getting x weapon or item unlocked, finishing priority contract, whatever>THE WALL: At this point you've put in enough time to understand the game. But you probably hit the first huge obstacle/wall in progression. You are possibly getting destroyed in PvP pretty frequently, losing everything. You find yourself slowing down a bit with enthusiasm to play anymore. You've seen most of the content now or at least enough to get the gyst of it. You probably entered Cryo Archive and even though you didn't beat it, you know what to expect. Same with the other 3 maps.>progression feels like a painful slog at this point. The game feels kind of small and lacking in content you find it hard to justify putting in the massive amount of effort required just to get further, especially since the core gameplay isn't really going to change anyways. You've really seen all Marathon has to offer and doing the same thing but with a higher agility stat and access to more inventory slots is whatever.And that's the curse of this game. Most people will quit immediately, but even those who don't are probably gonna lose interest before 50 hours.
>>737136131What do you mean?
>>737140513>You are intrigued but end up more offput by the UI and artstyle than you are intrigued.Why do people complain about the UI so much? The only issues I've ever had with it were the Ctrl+LMB to move an item back to the vault and the unconventional layout of the main menu. I got used to both quickly, and later learned that Arc Raiders has an even worse UI, without autosorting of inventories and mouse dragging of items between inventories by default.
>>737140773>Why do people complain about the UI so much?Because it creates an awful first impression. It's quick to learn and then never a problem again, but I definitely remember my very first reaction when playing the server slam was "wtf is this UI"? And in general feeling that the entire game/artstyle was off-putting and gross. And obviously I wasn't the only one. To be honest I think that server slam + the harsh first impression single-handedly responsible for the godawful numbers this game did. It's just not a smooth and inviting onboarding experience. Your natural reaction to Marathon is to recoil away in disgust. Which is a shame because beneath that there's a real gem of a game to be found. But in 2026 not many people will stick around to find that out. Once they write a game off they won't go back to it again. Highguard did the same shit with their stupid 3v3 gameplay which they walked back but too late for anyone to care.
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>>737140981>Because it creates an awful first impression.Does it? The only game I've ever quit because of bad UI was Dwarf Fortress Adventure Mode (pre-Steam). Also, the main menu is not exactly the first impression, unless you mean other menus, too.>And in general feeling that the entire game/artstyle was off-putting and gross. I might or might not have felt this was all the way back during the alpha, which I didn't get to play. Don't remember. But I did ended up remembering Marathon itself because of the art style, which I'm now a fan of.>Your natural reaction to Marathon is to recoil away in disgust.This is really interesting, don't you think? To me, the screenshot in >>737136131 looks amazing, but an anon posted it as a negative example.>Highguard did the same shit with their stupid 3v3 gameplay which they walked back but too late for anyone to care.Highguard's main issue was bad gameplay. I've only watched the overview on its Steam page, but that was enough for me to tell that it's not something I'd enjoy. It seems like those devs had no idea what they were doing. Same with their advertising, or rather the complete lack of it outside of the TGA final showcase slot. Tons of people played Highguard and quickly left.
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>>737111370You're just a "both side sucks" fag. That's not original or helpful, and neither were your intentions, you lying filth.
>>737141361>le producerthe troons and the degenerates always have these vague token roles while the whites and the asians all do the hard work
>>737141606This is my most contrarian opinion, but I vastly preferred DF pre steam UI. It was seamless once you got used to it. Now it requires way too much clicking. You could play OG dwarf fortress without ever moving your hands off the keyboard. That being said I am very happy with all the changes that have come with new updates so its a sacrifice I'm willing to accept. Highguard gameplay sucked BECAUSE of the forced 3v3, which by the time they added 5v5 everyone had already long left and the word was out that it sucked ass. I swear the game was actually fucking fun on 5v5. Not great, but good enough that I'd have played the occasional round here and there if it hadn't died. The 3v3 sucked ass and only emphasized all the bad aspects of their game. 5v5 was fun enough to sort of distract you from its weaker design elements.>Does it?Yes. I was paying attention on the server overload event and 100% a huge number of the complaints early players had was the same as my first impression: they found the UI too convoluted and gave them a headache to stare at. I don't mind it once I got used to it, but it took a few hours which not everyone will be willing to invest into a game. When you first play Marathon the inventory system is a massive pain where you have no fucking idea WTF you're looking at, which items are meant to do what, or what stats mean, or the difference between salvage, cores, implants, attachments, and auto-sell loot. It was a HUGE factor in my early gameplay and first impression. If you didn't experience that you are definitely in a very tiny minority.
>>737142164Oh yeah, and on top of the UI, also early gameplay on Perimeter just feels overly punishing and unrewarding. When you first start you have shit shields, shit starter kits, low stats so you overheat rapidly.I would bet my left and right nut that Mararhon would have had much stronger numbers if they'd 1) improved the visual information of the UI to be more coherent at first glance (NOT rely on learning all the idiosyncrasies as currently is required)2) put everyone on Outpost instead of Perimeter and dire marsh 3) made it so everyone started the game mid-level, with green and blue shields, Deluxe weapons, and higher statsThis would have done SO much to make people not hate the game right away. Between the painful start and their marketing strategy being to pay streamers to play the game, they really shot themselves in the foot. The thing with streamers is that their audiences are a fickle and capricious bunch. The moment the narrative tilts towards the negative, it will rapidly snowball and become irreversible. People looked at the gameplay footage and didn't like it at a glance, and then it became popular to hate on. At that point it is IMMENSELY difficult to reverse that general narrative.
>>737140773>Why do people complain about the UI so much?Its awful, the stack splitting, selling stuff, no way to group stuff. Holding E to sell. Shitty ass UI. Arc is way better if not for the fact that I can quickly ctrl shift to send stuff to inventory, select multiple items and quickly sell.
>>737114645I always thought the game would last till at least a little after the Second Season. So maybe ~5 months. However I also thought it would launch to a little over 100k which it did not.They'll just silently go maintenance mode and draw back on content now that the game is released and making almost no money. Oh and expect cosmetics that'll ruin the art style. It's a given when the shit they've shown no body wants to buy.
>>737114645It'l survive but the team will be severely downsized as Sony forces Bungie to work on Destiny 3 instead.
>>737113907I like how the robots are just variations of reskinned cabal enemy animations, pure recycled slop
>>737140513Damn, pretty fucking acurate.They did themselfs dirty with the faction upgrades and how much bullshit you have to do for them.Threadmill woud be too kind of an description.I still dont have the first repair upgrade unlocked, as you need chempacks that only drop in first ade cabinets, wich have random spawns, and then its random if you even get them to spawn.Without the first upgrade it takes ages to heal up.So i cant recover in fire fights.So i lose firefights.So i stop playing this skinnerbox.Escape has made me god.
>>737134789unless you're constantly queuing into 6 star lobbies and have to play like an absolute tryhard nigger
>>737105350So what's left for bungie? Destiny 2 is on life support and marathon is not living doing too well...
>>737148059Unless Destiny 3 is secretly in the works, Destiny 2 and Marathon are all they have.Maybe there's another, unannounced and secret game or something. I hope so, for their sake.
>>737150039Project gummy worms was decoupled from bungie
>>737150195Yeah, I mean in addition to that. Gummyworms was a Bungie project before Sony bought them. Maybe they have another one that Sony let them keep?Because if it's just Marathon and Destiny 2, I don't see how Sony says 'ok, we'll keep paying for you to have 800 employees for these two dead games'
>>737136131I swear that this is the ugliest fucking game that I've ever seen.
>>737150390I think it's just a really weird clash between the super stylized look of the manmade stuff and the completely normal, realistic look of the nature stuff. It's like when you have a meme skin in a CoD game; everyone else being tacticool in a brown and bloom gritty environment makes your Cheech and Chong tie dyed skin stand out that much more.
>>737117645SKG could save it
>>737150516clashing is funny when done intentionally but this is just grossly incompetent visual design
>>737150926I give them credit for going for this weird style and committing to it. I like the art direction and think it's the only interesting part of the game. Its probably also the most 'love it or hate it' thing I've seen in AAA in a while.I'm actually surprised Sony didn't try to stop them from doing it, because there's no way a weird style like this would work for MTX.
Anyone’s opinion on Marathon who hasn’t played for more than 20 hours is worthless. All these people who shit talk would be addicted.
>>737152352I'm neutral on this, can you tell me why you love it so much?
>>737151229Reminds me of a game missing a texture and defaulting to the weird checkers pattern. Kind of a cool idea to lean into that but...also niche. I think Marathon looks kind of bad because of it.
>>737105892Don't blame the internet for your shitty actions or lack there of. Only a brown person blames the tool and not the user. "The internet ruined gaming" no, you allowed retards on the internet and didn't corral them properly. That's like saying " I didn't watch my children and they got diddled by a fat man in a trench coat so everyone should need to verify their identity while online". Are you retarded or a under cover fed trying to push propagandic narratives on message boards?
>>737150337The moment Sony make an action that displays a lack of confidence in Marathon the game formally dies, so they can't do that until they're sure it has no revenue left to give.
>>737152475It’s most likely a trick of the brain and body to engage in hypertension situations.Marathon is like, imagine MGS3 and 2 if they were PvP games with real loot stakes on the line. I don’t recommend playing Marathon as like a, oh let’s see if this games good, because the gameplay evolves further and further into something you can’t relax after work to. I don’t love Marathon, it’s more that you’re pulled in by it.
>>737153914>all this cope for a sunk cost fallacyAt least you're having fun.
>>737152352Game becomes fucking boring the more I play it.
>>737152352>you can't POSSIBLY know that toast is burnt just by looking at itSpare me.
>>737153421The only action Sony would take would be layoffs at Bungie, and if they sit back and do nothing, the game runs out of players by the fall.
>>737154510>toast analogy>doesn’t know that you scrape the burnt parts off and then put honey on
I’ve heard so many opinions online of someone hating the game before putting the cartridge in, then dumping 200 hours into it. Even the negative steam reviews have people still playing the game after the initial review date.
[Buy a fucking ad snoy]
>>737114419BasedI do this as well.
Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.Marathon: 35713Destiny 2: 47513
>>737115182We would know by job listings. Destiny 3 is ten years away minimum (aka it is not happening Bungie gutted out by Xmas 26)
>>737105892>people that just want to play PvE and people that just want to do PvPKind of. I bought Arc to play with my nephew but the PVE in arc is so basic that I doubt it would be a fun game without any players. Marathon looks like a game that should be PVE trapped in some niche ultra competitive PVP genre for god knows why. The idea that all your shit WIPES means I'll never buy it or even try it out. There's no point. I hate fomo garbage. At least POE kicks you to the normal servers when a league is over so you can't keep using all the goodies you collected. I suppose Bungie is experienced in deleting players progression
>>737154595Or, I could just have a piece of regular toast and put honey on it.
I like it The lack of solo queueing is annoying as well as grinding for upgrades The story and the world is rather interesting but the missions themselves are kind of lameThe guns and equipment/nades are fun to useI'm not really a fan of the shield/implant system since they offer so little in varietyHaving shell abilities only to be modified via cores are stupidWish there was more content 7/10 for me, but it's the only cyberpunk shooter out there so I stick with it
>>737158547so what are the missions exactly? the AI bots seem just like a nuisance from what I've seen
>>737105350Blasthavers...our response?
>>737158790The missions are usually just scan a thing or press a button with the ones later ones like killing a bot commander or extracting certain stuff. Pretty simple stuff aside from the SekGen stuff where most of those missions involve hurting or debuffing yourself The cutscenes (which you can't rewatch annoyingly) you get from doing the missions are pretty neat as well as the codex entries you unlock. If you're a lorefag, Marathon is super interesting despite the contracts being kinda boring and straightforward, the difficulty coming from having to deal with players the whole time
>>737121112This has to be someone trolling. Like it's completely in the ballpark that resetera users would do something like that, but it still feels like this guy is taking the piss.
Were back to heavy decline again and now theres no known major update until the next season
>>737114645are bungietards really so stupid that they'll fall for destiny3 after already getting raped for years by destiny2?
>>737109667holy shit i made this post!
>>737154662And by the player numbers, we can see for ourselves people givng it a good review, and then quitting after maybe a week, and there's a lot more of them. Even the dumb frogposter seems to get it. >>737140513>>737159205No. They've done it before for other games.
>>737152352Make your case on why anon. The player count is plummeting for a reason. I think you're a fraud who can't tell a flak cannon from titty skittles.
>>737111784>apart from anonymous internet shitposts is there anyone with skin in the game for getting it wrong saying it's a financial success on it's $200m+ budget?Some press has called it a "success" without specifying the financial failure.>>737112889Alright. I'll bite. What's the untapped market that Marathon can reach here? The people who haven't already seen it and rejected it?
>>737107434>got a budget over $200,000,000>peak player count of 88k>game barely generated $4,400,000 assuming player count is total players>even if it's not, would need to sell at least 4,000,000 copies to break even, before tax, assuming a flat budget of $200,000,000She sunk m8.
>>737105350Now that stop killing games is actually looking like its getting a pass tranny flop games like this are gonna be killed before they start enforcing it :D tik tok troonies
>>737114645sony has 12 gaas slop games made since they bought bungie and they have been flops/not released/cancelled one after the otherwhy do you trust them anyway?
>>737161615they gotta make back the 3.6 billion sony wasted on them too
About to run Cryo 03 and Cryo 04, wish me luck
>>737162695>open any locked door in this game>BEEEEEEEEEEEP BEEEEEEP>WeeeeeOOOOOOO WEEEEEOOOOO >NRRRRRRRRRRzzzzTtTttTtZ xx TRnyYtT
>>737159681this reply took you 19 hours... 19 hours. my original reply took less than 2 minutes. desperate.
>>737162903I fucking LOVE IT, when you hear that gingle it's ON, Baby
>>737161120depends how they go about it, hunt and fortnite weren't popular to begin with. if they go ftp and add a bunch of casual shit 50k steam and 50k console doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
>>737163250The cheating and third worlders at the internet cafe who start playing is never worth it.
Marathon would need to make over ten million dollars per day, for an entire year, to repair the hole in Sony's pocket.
>barely even getting a weekend bump anymoreloooooooooool
How do I Cryo if I'm friendless?Do I really just try with crew filling? Seems like it'd be like solo queueing for a moba.Half my crew filling experiences in the game are with free kits who breathe manually and have contracts in different zones.
>>737141606>but an anon posted it as a negative example.yeah, i stand by it and genuinely hate it, it only works for my eyes at least when its indoors in low lighting enviroment with a lot of fog, but under the sun light all these 200% saturation textured building blocks on top of the swamp just giving me headache and eye fatique, as >>737150516 said its a bad clash and to me its so off putting i wouldn't give any genre of game a chance with that design
it's baffling that a game relying on battlepasses and premium skins chose to have such an abhorrent artstyle
they really just fucked this game up right off the bat. they are doing freeload out only modes and now they are nerfing the shotgun and all the meta trannies are losing their mind
>>737168095funny tho is that shotty nerf will affect struggling solos the most, even less of a chance vs decked out squads now
>>737168150the issue is they got every fuckin retard on board with this broken game that people wanted to stay away from and they made their bed now they must lie in itliterally no one but hardcore skewed sweaty steamrolling squads love thermal scoping and one shotting with shotties. the casuals will not come back ever ever ever.
>>737161615>He thinks peak player count was 88k because Steam chart threadsPC cucks need to be gassed.
>>737136131>created game with high contract colors and clean design>put it in a fucking basic bitch jungleDid no one fucking said anything during meeting ? Are they that retarded
>160 hours of playtime >have seen,>1 gold Cryo key>1 gold attachment>2 gold gunsSome of the loot in this game is genuinely rare.
>>737168683Also I’ve seen the Misriah shotgun three times. Three.
>>737167309They've actually recently proven that they can make good skins. It's just that most of them aren't.
new event is coolit would probably destroy the economy if they kept it but its cool
>>737167309They literally stole it from a tranny
>>737170537no?
>>737170610Yes?
>>737107434>words words wordsLeft can't meme.
>>737168501If the estimate of Steam sales being 70% of their total are true, we are talking about maybe 125k combined peak. Which is nice, but still not saving their game. They needed at least twice that to break even and consider the game a susteinable success.
>>737170059>complete dogshit>b-but it has hips so it's good!nugamers deserve the industry they got
Game is often not even listed on steam charts because its player base is so low. Apparently it’s just sweaty tryhards left.
>>737106442>a game living longer than 2 monthsMarathon released less than 2 months ago. It cannot have lived longer than the time since it's launch. What are you even saying?
>>737171110>it's
>>737170059Apex mogs
Bungie lost
>>737170059Are we still pretending that the game is woke and that Recon and Vandal dont have an S-tier ass? I dont wanna upset my fellow anti-woke bros who have been mislead by youtube ragebaiters into hating this game…
>>737172826You are trying too hard
>>737172820They always do
>>737170757 Fuck you CHUD! Season 3 will break the peak.
Okay no but seriously why did it flop so hard
>>737105350I'm sure Sony is over the moon at a million copies and 25k active players after a month and a half
>>737176427zero matchmakingthe worse players leave, meaning there's new worse players, and the cycle repeats
>>737176427>art style is very divisive, consolefags and tarkov/milsimfags don't like this kind of stuff>both heavily casual (aim assist) and heavily hardcore (no safe pockets)>maps are cramped, it's not uncommon to get into a team fight within the first 60 seconds and third party'd shortly afterwards. newfags have no space to breathe>solo play is awful, due to the hero shooter aspects and team requirements for half the game's queues>game is extremely anti-social and has taught its players to kill-on-sight (they recently patched in a mercy revive for downed enemies, but players are only using them to kill people multiple times)>prioritised streamer's first and foremost, the cryo archive's vaults and boss fight are simply out of reach for players who don't have time to grind 5 hours a day>cryo players then take their kits into the regular queues and rape the bottom 10% until they quit; the playerbase cannibalises itself a little more each week as the average skill level rises and more people find themselves on the receiving end>destinyfags got fucked over by bungie for years so it began with a dedicated group of haters day 1>bungie are woefully slow at releasing content so there's no hope on the horizon>bungie is ridiculously expensive to operate so it would have been considered a big failure even if it had a 250k+ peak on steam
>they added a revival item>players use it to revive people they kill, only to kill them again for double xplmao imagine being so incompetent that you wouldn't realize this could possibly happen
Just doing the sums on this, Bungie is losing around $15k-$30k per day as-is. They’ll need player counts of around 60k to sustain the game, given average player spend.
>>737177726That's why they keep churning out sloppa recolors so people buy them to boost the numbers
i love being raped by bungie
Can they unrape this game?
>>737176427It's painful to play and progression is walled behind so many layers of RNG that it's retarded. Trying to get further in the game is an absolute slog, it's an exercise in suffering. As far as games go, Marathon might be the worst I've ever seen in how little it respects your time. The actual amount of content is rather minimal so their method of padding play time is by making a bunch of metagaming systems where you depend on RNG and having to do 10,000 runs on the same 3 maps over and over again to try collecting items or fighting encounters that may or may not even load in that game. Most people aren't willing to or able to sacrifice so much time into this game and they end up getting gutted by the top 1% of players who did grind, they get frustrated and stop playing.
>>737176427it is visual diarrhea. it could be the greatest most funnest most boner inducing game of all time, but there would still only be a small percentage of people able to tolerate staring at this disaster for any prolonged period of time.
>>737176427Turns out people dont like extraction shooters and the rape or be raped gameplay loop. Its one thing when its a battle royale and you have no skin in the game but this game expects you to smile after having your head held underwater by 3 bullies with gold gear and red compiler guns while you lose all your gear
>>737177618How retarded of a dev do you have to be to allow double dipping kill XP. Reviving someone should probably even disable friendly fire.
I'm level 40 and I keep seeing level 100+ in opposing teams Why is this happening
>>737177726How did you get those numbers I'm curious
>>737177618It's not viable outside of solo or Rook-Rook interactions since it can only revive downed players, not killed ones. No one is going to revive and entire team one-by-one to farm XP. However, they should still make it so that you don't get any extra XP for downing/killing a player after the first time. This would also prevent 2 full Triage teams infinitely killing and reviving each other for massive XP.
>>737181586Not enough players to properly matchmake
I fucking wish I didn't like this game so much. I'd at least be able to enjoy schadenfreude with the rest of /v/ instead of just waiting 20 minutes for matchmaking like a retard
>>737181586Marathon's matchmaking is seemingly primarily level-based, once you reach a certain point you enter the rape zone
>>737181586They implemented SBMM with the last update
>>737160863>They've done it before for other gamesGrim.
>>737181615LinkedIn employer insights and burn through estimates from a guy who was a team lead at Ubisoft. I can’t really imagine Bungie spending any less than Ubisoft did on projects 5 years ago, but I could possibly see players spending more in an extraction shooter than they do in Ubisoft games. That said, I was extremely generous, I wouldn’t be surprised if the rate was double of what I estimated.
>>737158547but there literally is a solo queue
>video game (west)>"88k players at launch! DOA!">"all the good reviews from reviewers are paid off">"all the good reviews from players are shills and bots">videogame (east)>"50k players is a great start!">"see, even the reviewers think it's good, they should be trusted">"the players also agree, look at that score!"
>>737118706>extraction pvp with Fromsoft netcode
>>737166067You minimum kit and hope to be carried. >Seems like it'd be like solo queueing for a moba.Pretty much.>>737168192The people at purple shield and above baseline really aren't affected by this, and at the top level they just made grenade/bubble shield spam even more powerful. It's hilarious
>>737186051All the decisions they make are to keep the top level whales/streamers happy even though the realistic effect is killing all the normies
>>737176427Bungie has lost all their talent that made Halo and Destiny 1. Don't have employees that play their own games anymore.Fired talent for being chuds, and brought in complete fucking retards. Wasted literally tens of millions of stupid woke shit. Completely out of touch with what the core gamer base wants. Even, right now has curated the fuck out of what voices are "allowed" to speak, which are going to steer the game straight into a hole.
>>737181586You're past the refund point, and the game is optimized for the 100+ players. And it only gets worse from here. Just wait until you start hitting full purple kits and biotoxic disinjectors, and people with inventories full of grenades.
>>737184474There isn't as long as premades can exist with fill teams
>>737184474Solo queue is a fucking joke and an afterthought. Not even allowed on cryo. Not allowed in the esperimental mode. The game is a team game.>>737184212I think MTX on this game is low, because of how shit the paid skins are, and that people are not using them.
>>737184212Admitting you have a 25% range of accuracy is kinda bad analytics wise friend
>>737158547>The story and the world is rather interesting but the missions themselves are kind of lameNot disagreeing with you, the contracts can be really hit or miss, but how do you imagine they could be done better? Also, I think that once you do all the story contracts, the game should generation procedural "go there, do this" contracts to replace the lack of primes.
>>737185397What is the "videogame (east)" in this context? The main reason people are dooming over Marathon's player numbers is the high cost of its development.
>>737186749>the game should generation procedural*procedurally generate
>>737186895It means he's a shitposter.>The main reason people are dooming over Marathon's player numbers is the high cost of its development.Lets put it in perspective. Development cost for this game is higher than LOZ tears of the kingdom AND crimson desert fucking COMBINED at the low end. At Tassis high end estimate, there's also enough to fit in the entire dev budget of Stellar Blade. Note that this doesn't cover ongoing dev and server costs.
>>737186749>but how do you imagine they could be done better?The most fundamental shit about their design? Not needing to wipe the entire server to have a reasonable chance at doing them ? Not being the laziest Destiny ripoffs where you just run to a POI and interact with a terminal? Some actual setpieces?Most of them are so shit, that even the one where you give yourself cyber aids is, well, as enjoyable as giving yourself regular aids, but at least it's something different.
>>737186749Honestly I wish priority contracts could just unlock as a separate game mode on a smaller map you can tackle as singleplayer or co-op missions that you can replay laterI just feel like it's kinda lame that there are aspects of the map you can never re interact with again after finishing the priority contract like calling in dropships or drones on perimeter
>>737105350Bungie deserves this for abandoning Destiny.
daily paid advert thread
>>737187364You would have had that...back before Zeigler took over and the game wasn't so hyper team PVP focused. But that designer was a no no dude.
>>737186895pragmata
>>737187330>Not needing to wipe the entire server to have a reasonable chance at doing them ?You already don't need to. Maybe it's for later contracts I haven't reached yet? I haven't reach level 10 on all factions yet.>Some actual setpieces?This is thing already, but only for some. The last Parasitism contract has Orion speak during a run.
>>737176427>make game with a very niche target audience (hardcore full loot PvP extraction shooter)>spend way, WAY, too much money doing itThe only fault I can think of that isn't fixable outside of being way too far in the hole is the horrific art style. The art direction of "a clown ate 30 packs of crayons and threw up all over an electronics warehouse" is absolutely an interesting choice and not in a good way. The big problem is that anything they do to try and salvage marathon is going to make that hole even deeper, and as I recall they need something like 7 million more sales just to break even. Pivoting to a more PvE focus is going to cost a ton of money, and it's going make their existing playerbase of PvP sweats throw a grumpy dumpy for getting in the way of them stomping out weaker players. Staying the course and making more content in line with what they've got doesn't cost as much, but how likely is that to get more people? I don't think there's any move they can possibly make that can save it. Marathons lifespan is just a measure of how long snoy is willing to throw money in a fire to try and save face
>>737187518That's a singleplayer game. It doesn't need high player numbers, it just needs to sell enough copies.
>>737187427Yea made 30 hours ago lmao
>>737187601The artstyle is pretty similar to modern industrial environments though
>>737185397single player vs multiplayer (game as a service)if they made yet another shitty final fantasy mmo and it peaked at 80k, then you'd have more than a few salarymen taking a one way visit to the suicide forest
>>737187862Don't Koreans and Japanese have no labor lawsMakes sense
>>737187862Most gachas blow their budget on VAs and don't live past year 1 so eh
>>737187973That's probably perfectly fine as long as they milk the whales for all they've got before they slavishly move the next gacha. The funny thing is that marathon's ingame store is barren and so uninteresting that it rules out f2p as a viable strategy, unless they hard pivot into putting out skins
>>737188075I'd rather they just release Forge at this point like they did for Infinity
>>737187601>something like 7 million more sales just to break evennow include server costs and salaries to hundreds of those devs in the timeframe, even if they're steadily selling 100k a month the line is still going deeper and deeper in the red
This is all help up by destiny silver so eh
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>>737188641Held up
>>737187697Everything in that image is bright and organized for a purpose, from what I've seen in marathon so far everything is strange dull pastel colors for no apparent reason, other then perhaps the clown had just eaten all the purple crayons at once. I could also just be a fag talking shit though, I haven't extensively studied the game this is just my impression from what I've seen. Either way it's irrelevant because the actual big issue is that they spent way too much money doing it
>>737177190Forgot the art theft and the ping pong between latinx tier identity politics while also practicing superjew corporate practices, making both groups of the political seesaw mad.
>>737188838There is definitely sense to Marathon's environments. For example, the Pinwheel base part of the Outpost map looks very distinct from any other area, except for Cryo Archive, where you can see a bunch of other pinwheels attached to the Marathon.
>>737105350Raped? What does that mean?
>>737170059>another shitty recolor but it has decals>this is supposed to be good
>>737189060Hop on Marathon and find out
>>737189060Current Bungie fans
>>737106614Yeah, this is fantastic numbers if it was the first title from some bedroom developer out of nowhere.But it isn't, is it?
>>737170059I like the artstyle, do gamers just want to see the same scruffy military gear on everything?
>>737190148it is really funny that people call this game ugly and praise something like e33 for having the same art style as every other UE5 game
>>737190462E33 is quite visually distinct, actually.
>>737190148>>737190462>Pretending this looks goodStop
>>737191093yo is that my nigga george droyd on the right?
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>>737191093Many skins are pretty bad, yeah. But the new Arachne ones are great. Which led many people to conclude they weren't originally meant to be free.
>>737190859is it? maybe i'm biased towards the "realistic" look since to me that just looks boring>>737191093i'll admit the character designs are the only thing that kinda clashes with the rest of the art style/philosophy of the world being function over formrecon and destro are good though, the others should be more "faceless" as well but bungie went for the hero shooter aspect
>>737191982>is it? maybe i'm biased towards the "realistic" look since to me that just looks boringTo an extent that any realistic art direction can be distinct, yes. The VFX and monster designs are distinct to me. Same with decorative patterns, like the ones on the character's closing in your image (I know that that's the protagonist, but I've barely played the game, I don't remember his name).
>>737192150thanks for pointing out the monster designs, i completely overlooked thatand yes, the visual effects are the first thing that came to my mind but i feel like they are fairly simple but i guess unique enough, the only other game that comes to my mind is NMH3 for having that kinda extensive amount of sparks and shrapnel
