How did disco elysium portray the rural chud archetype so perfectly?
i'd turn into a cynical racist too if i looked like that
>>737110667He's not the chud, this was.
>>737110667Genuinely, do you think he had a problem with Kim or disliked him? I couldn't tell if he was just playing nice to a cop or was genuinely racist from only a "we are superior" or "all gooks have bad eyes, it's OK buddy" angle and didn't actually dislike him.
Feasibly, how could the lorry drivers actually be able to live in that blockade while the company is waiting for things to resolve with the dispute? I doubt the companies would pay the drivers food and rooms while they're stuck out there, even if they slept in the cars they still have to eat and bathe?
>>737113893From what I remember, the drivers likely don't have a choice. Nobody's going to help them if they complain or fuck off.
>>737110816I only beat the game once and didn't go in this direction, is the old Christian sun crown thing a visual sign of being nationalist or or something?
it was much more impressive that they convinced everyone that pic related is a mysterious beauty everyone wants to fuck and not an appalling troonanons on this board literally still pretend it isn't a drawing of a troon, this must be the true power of marxism
>>737114848She's 8/10 in Eesti
>>737114518yes it's the old revachol flag
>>737110667Because you share a hivemind that has only one vision of what a "rural chud [sic]" looks and acts like.
>>737113725Considering what he has to say during the Fascism political vision quest, yes. I'd say he did genuinely dislike Kim. He certainly dislikes the presence of foreigners in Revachol at the very least.
>>737110667that's just Mike Stoklasa.
>>737114848no this is
>>737114848She's polish
>>737110667I liked how they nailed the soulless EU bureaucrat archetype.
>>737110816I may not have the looks, the smarts or the money but at least I have this cool flag!
>>737114848For any cumboys out there, her original actress was Dasha Nekrasov's, Adam Friesland's ex fiancé. I wonder if so, how much of ZA/UM know or are into Cumtown, as the in-universe book character Dick Mullen clearly seems inspired and possibly copied by Nick Mullen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIkvXoH28g0&t=304).
>>737116240Going around slums finding people disenfranchised enough to fuck in the ass? I did like the way he spoke, and he was even better at deflecting than Everart.
>>737110747I'd embrace the ugly bastard aspect and head to SEA for some paid sex.
I did not like how playing along and placating someone's political ramblings would not be distinguished apart from people treating you like you are that faction.
>>737117016She broke adams heart
>>737117396Squashed it like a bug
>>737117307I think you're definitely right. But at the same time, how are you supposed to convince Kim, who has only known you for a short time, that you aren't actually communist/racist/fascist/whatever when you go around single-mindedly agreeing with communists/racists/fascists/etc.?
>>737116240I think Moralism as a whole is the most insightful callout in the game.It's the unnamed ideology of the center which reluctantly roleplays as socialist, liberal or conservative, but in truth despises them all. The center that only believes in price stability, incremental progress and maintaining the machine.
>>737117016>i know this may look like gay faggot shit on the surface, but it's actually a reference to the show CUM TOWN
>>737117605I know at one point when talking to Measurehead and Kim pulls you aside, the option "let me just humor him" comes up at some point, only for Kim to warn you about going down a bad path. I think they clearly meant to address my thought process (pretending for the sake of buddy'ing up) and say it leads down a pipeline. If that dialog tree actually could be used to trust the player and mechanically turn off say the affinity answer checks for that conversation, maybe also promting the player with a similar "are you just saying this?" question each time could help that. I get that solution sounds clunky but surley we can come up with a good middle ground solution if I came up with that in 5 seconds.
>>737114518Any have that image of all the portraits lined up by background? How Titus' flag is crisp and vibrant. While his less convinced partners are more faded or tattered etc. A great detail I didn't quite get while playing
>>737117984My issue is that I wanted to be a strong centrist, and moralism didn't give me that, it gave me something close but not quite there. I believe matters should be examined case by case, I believe that Harry calling for backup from a higher national authority once seeing the signs of the murder and trade dispute very quickly growing out of proportion and beyond his control/scope was an appropriate step (if we overlook that he probably ignored protocol of going through the Jamrock precinct and also told his Special Crime unit to fuck off when he needed then most, the blood that spilled at the Tribunal is on his hands). It acted like incremental change isn't sometimes warrented or the best solution forward, sometimes to properly examine an issue you need to study and pull data from it before you can formulate a route forward. Yes, stagnation and appeal to the tradition and status quo for the sake of helps nobody in theory, but the exact same can be said for constantly "progressing society" for the exact same dogmatic faith of the philosophy over a logical reasoning for the impact it will do. If such a clear path forward were evident I wager the people would fight significantly less about that path. I think the moralist route did illustrate the downsides of centrism and appealing to the status quo, but it also felt like it strawmanned itself by having people fetishistically caught in the weeds like Hermes and the bureaucrats from Futurama
Which ending is your favorite?
>>737117016>cumboys>cumtownIs this what fags call each other and where they reside?
>>737113492Take your meds, Iosef>>737116240He actually looks like someone from my Lodge, but with hair. The resemblance is uncanny
>>737117984>price stabilityHahahahahahahahahah
>>737114848Hey man, I just liked her smoky new VA voice.https://youtu.be/WKpE2H3bf-E
/v/ - Video Games>>>/lit/
>>737114518It's the in universe RETVRN
>>737110667>rural chud archetypeBut he lives in a city
>>737110667I remember him talking about his mother. That was pretty touching.
>>737122630moralintern or cunoism
>>737117016lol her claim to fame is not being bugboys ex gf, she was the co host of a commie podcast named red scare which is probably why she's in a commie adjacent game
>>737128147as a guy i only knew her as bug adam’s ex. wtf is red scare even about they just talk about being commies?
>>737128107based Cuno
>>737128432They got scared when Adam and Nick went on Red Eye and made a reactionary podcast to it.
>>737128107Will Cuno join you if you don't give him his dad's drugs?
>>737110667Why did Kim have a problem with this guy but not Measurehead? They're both racists.
>>737128996He was scared of Measurehead, and perhaps needing him for so many things (body removal, getting in to the harbor) made him more hesitant to speak ill.
>>737128963He joins you no matter what if Kim gets injured in the gunfight (the final skill check)
but racist rural chuds (chads) are actually right about literally everything.enjoy getting stabbed by escaped zoo creatures progressive shitcunt.
>>737117396>>737117016Is she dead yet?
>>737128107affluent leftists trying to write in a "street kid" voice is always so unthinkably cringe
>>737117016>I wonder if so, how much of ZA/UM know or are into Cumtownlol the venn diagram is a circle. this whole sphere is for the loser centerleft millennial archetype
>>737128996Measurehead is like 3 heads taller than Kim, no one sane would want to insult or challenge the guy if you dont have a similar physique, he knew that. Obviously Harry didnt.
>>737128432>wtf is red scare even about they just talk about being commiestheyre conservatives now
>>737117984>The center that only believes in price stability, incremental progress and maintaining the machine.Which is conservatism.
>>737129225sorry that you piss your pants in fear when you see a minority anon hope you become brave enough to go to mcdonalds some day
>>737132061>
>>737131668Right, traditionalism
>>737132604Burke, the father of modern conservatism, has famously said>A State without the means of some change is without the means of its conservationIn relation to that being ultra-traditionalist is also against conservative values.But Macintyre also said >Moral argument presupposes shared standards of evaluation. Where such standards are absent, debate becomes a clash of incompatible premises with no common measure.So in this way, conservatism is only traditionalist in such a way that it is a rational and socially cohesive framework of which to progress with rather than against.
>>737131668in truth - yesbut they would not call themselves that, because it sounds ideological
>>737132061but i live in a nice white area so i don't have to see minorities hardly at all (and admittedly my day is kind of ruined when i do), and why would you mention mcondalds of all things urbanite?it's like you progressive twats go out of your way to prove every trope correct.>oh my heckin blackerinos>oh my goyslop>i LOVE DIVERSITYfaaaaaggot.
>>737110667I like how this game had both the tiny-brained retard racist who can barely even articulate himself beyond stereotypes and memes, and giga-brained ÜBERRASSIST that goes on hour-long rants about haplogroups and phrenology. And if you try to approach the logic of the latter with the logic of the former, he just scoffs and calls that kind of thinking retarded.
>>737135225You have to admire his dedication to understanding the enemy. Even if he contradicts himself and clearly gets things wrong on closer examination.
>>737133334Good post. Is it pedantic to say that those on charge of [system], whether through being brought up, raised, and trained by the system or by being a member of the group that already upheld the system, that there will be a very low chance an administrator would ever find their own system anything but cohesive and rational?
>>737132061>go to mcdonaldsI don't eat slop, homemade meals only. No microwaved processed foods either.
>>737135225Measure head is definitely one of my favs, the extra dialogue you get with him is easily the best part of going a full facist route. One thing I don't see a lot of people pick up on is he is actually a minority group that was colonized by Revachol during its Monarchy. So he's closer to a black supremacist than a white supremacist for a real life equivalent. Most people's reactions when encountering him for the first time is "oh, this guy is like a Nazi. Got it."
>>737136398Nta, but only if the system does not encourage introspection.Finding flaws is easy.It is far more likely that an administrator will simply not CARE either way and will fall into a monotonous routine and reap the benefits.The bigger issue is that lack of care, that dulling of the mind.That is what will allow corruption and unchecked blind "progression" to fester and grow.
>>737138353>So he's closer to a black supremacistHe IS a black supremacist. He's black. He's Semenese. A Kipt. The black people of the setting.
>>737138987Really? America loves to talk about being introspective and making changes when needed to the people yet all we're doing is stripping away privacy and enforcing property law to help the major corporations. I think America is huge with platitudes and saying how good it is to fool the people while corruption runs amok.
>>737113492The projection is just mint.
>>737113893The blockade only exists because Joyce told the bridge owners to trap them there for the last week because of the lynching. They haven't been there since the strike began months ago.
>>737139195True. And you just know it's because they couldn't bring themselves to actually write a White supremacist with any kind of moral complexity or ideological depth to him, because of what probably amounts to toeing the party line and some 'reasoning' similar to the one the Subnautica dev had for not including a gun in his game.
>Measurehead>moral complexity>ideological depthlollmao, even
>>737139257its almost as if having a SYSTEM that encourages introspection and having one that encourages TALKING about introspection are two different things.You are clearly retarded and just wanted to cry about america.
>>737139956The people are introspective, the leadership pretends to mirror that but isn't.
>>737140097No they arent lol.People look far enough to find a flaw, and don't bother looking any deeper.They just whine and bitch about it and follow any retard promising change that convinces them.Common problem with communists in particularThey DESPISE the thought of bothering to understand a systems flaws enough to correct them without introducing new ones, and usually just want to run in and break everything with blind faith that they will find a solution.
>>737110816The third racist really was the good racist.
>>737115126what were you doing looking at r/transtimelines?
>>737113492>always kind of assumed disco elysium was a game written by leftist retards without looking much into it>play it in 2026>it's more like it was written by people who are probably on an NSA/CIA/mossad watchlist for being beyond the left/right paradigm and aiming straight for the epstein class
>>737122630The rarest ending achievement that requires you to climb the statue is taken by going into the HARDCORE.
>>737131184>affluentYou should look up what country they're from
>>737131184he's a weird underage loner psycho, not some cool street kid who imitates his behavior from gangsters. the voice acting makes it obvious if the dialogue doesn't.
>>737140293He's the fourth racist, though.
Just shaved and got a haircut. I actually went back to 7/10 after many months looking 3/10. This isn't over yet, Harrierbros. I'll fix my shit up.
>>737140717Who's the third?
>>737140854The damage that her leaving you has done is psychological. You have fixed your looks superficially, but what about your brain?
>>737140937You; the player.
>>737140937Measurehead.
>>737140947Just fake it till you make it.Literally the lesson of the game.
>>737141035No. "The third racist will be the special one" is something you and Kim talk about after meeting Racist Lorry Driver and Measurehead, then Kim specifically says "the third one really was the best" after you meet Gary.
>>737140947I'm working on it. It might take three more years, but I'll forget about it.
>>737141121Touché>>737141185Your social skills have withered and you have less opportunity to build up social relationships
>>737110667It's a fantastical stereotype that's been drilled into the collective consciousness because of propagandistic media depictions like this. The writer is a Twitter commie and literal faggot so obviously he'd be familiar with the trope.
>>737117984CUNO DOESN'T FUCKING CARE
>>737141035>>737141004So, if Measurehead is the third racist and Gary is the fourth, then the Lorry Driver must be the second, leaving the first as (you)/Harry.
Final Cut absolutely ruined his VA. How did they get five lines with this guy and decided he was fit for task?
>>737141394Harry is actually the second racist.
>>737141164Measurehead does grant you a wish, though, depending on how you interact with him.The second racist is Kortenaer.
>>737110816He's literally me
>>737140373>epstein classIn other words, a way of saying jews without directly literally saying the word “jews” because the jews will censor you for saying they’ve blackmailed and controlled the U.S. through sex trafficking children.
>>737140373You got it twisted my son, it’s people who would make you think that’s the case but would happily suck the dick of the kind of sadistic pedo they lambast if he represents “their side” the idea that they are above it is but a lie which they want you to believe. They were the mask of the reasonable to make you believe that they are reasonable and you agree and follow until they take you beyond the point of which they show their true intentions but by they point you have invested so much and you can’t just say that they’re wrong without being made out as a buffoon and completely ostracized.
>>737141472Explain
>>737141659It’s not just jews, their shabbos are also a big part of it since without the shabbos they wouldn’t be able to do as much.
>>737141659Yes, it's the latest leftist euphemism to try and avoid being called racist while calling for the genocide of Jews. I dunno why they keep trying to hide it when double standards are at the heart of modern wokeist philosophy.
>>737141659Dumb meatshield.
>>737110667>>737110816We're forgetting the secret facist who doesn't make it a personality, Lilienne She most likely got it from her husband Evidence being:Reveres the sun as if it were a deity (reminiscent of traditionalist pagan beliefs commonly associated with esoteric right-wing values, is also used to portray monarchists/fascists in the DE universe (Gary the Cryptofascist has a flag on his wall with the old Revacholian suzerainty's logo, which is a sun, and your own portrait adds a sun-like insignia in a Fascist run as well), likely connected to the black sun)>names her skiff "The Sun">wields a sword (like the in-game royalists) (also like Mussolini)>Shivers explicitly says she owns a pair of cavalry boots>taught her daughter the word "revolutionary" (and yes, the definition of "revolutionary" used in DE also includes fascism, Call Me Manana calls you one if you choose fascist-leaning dialogue options)>she's a no-nonsense working class citizen who's skeptical of the union, critical of the drunks around her, and infuriated with the delinquents and criminals in revachol>titus says that the fishing village staunchly refuses to unionize, likely at the behest of Lilienne and the washerwoman>Lilienne's daughter hums the overworld theme, which was a tune used by the Revacholian royalist forces>successfully going on a date with her doesn't lead to her practically opening her legs for you, instead she sets boundaries and thanks you while considering a second bout later down the line to see if you can stick with your sobriety and piece your life back together>esteems her family above all else>immensely cooperative with the police, even with the knowledge of harry's recklessness and endangerment of multiple people, including and especially himself>whereas the washerwoman calls the RCM a bad omen, Lilienne has splash dialogue that says she is relieved to see the RCM>her outfit's color palette is the same as the revacholian suzerainty's flag (blue and gold)
>>737141725>>737141004
>>737113725Kim is extremely out of touch with Revacholians in general which is why he finds himself othered. He’s a moralist working under the police force of a foreign occupying government and has no appreciation nor care for Revachol’s history. If he wore a sun flag and bought a fishing boat then people like the lorry driver and gary would respect him more. Renee isn’t even an Occident but he’s never a target of racial attacks because he fought in a war to protect the king and Revachol is undeniably his home.
>>737139195I've seen lots of streamers assume he's white because of his racism and not realize he's black because of how abstract his portrait is. It's quite funny in retrospect
>>737141867How the fuck you got mussolini when she is so obviously ripping off napolean with her pose and the use of a sword is beyond me.
>>737142092>Kim is extremely out of touch with Revacholians in general which is why he finds himself othered. He’s a moralist working under the police force of a foreign occupying government and has no appreciation nor care for Revachol’s historyIn a thread full of dumb shit this has to be some of the dumbest. If you've played the game you've never spoken to Kim and you sure as fuck didn't get Aces High/Low.
>>737141867Sanest schizo on this entire website. Actually mostly correct.
>>737142214>He's not aware of Lilienne posterSad
>>737141004A third-rate racist: for a two-bit commie game
>>737141867Welcome back Liliennebro
>>737142567I'm not the original but I carry the message
>>737142769We all do brother, we all do
>>737143012I still don't understand why anons post that image when Russia had their own jewish purges on a small and big scale during it's reign
>>737143158Was it 12 million of them by the 95% Jewish government?
>>737143198That 95% certainly went down significantly by the time Stalin was in chargeIt was made even more apparent when he had his stroke
>>737143437>kills mostly kulaks (ethnic russians) anyway
>>737143550Those ethic russians were the jews
>>737141940I said that in my post tho
>>737143158It's amazing how many commie haters don't know about that, yet somehow believe >>737143198 unquestioningly.
>>737143012Interesting how that chart says "10s 20s and 30s" then only shows the supposed stats for 1918.
>>737116240Looks like Klaus schwab with hair
>>737144209not that anon, but the serious self-purging you are thinking of didn't start until the 30's, but there was a purge of about 1/3 of the government members back in 1920.those purges were ideological though... I need to dig moreso basically that guy's chart is off in its title, but the numbers are accurate to 1920... and the first purge would not have messed with those numbers much.The commissar numbers, for example?THEIR purge didn't really happen until the BIG stuff by stalin in 1936 or so.
>>737144209>>737144627and the same is true for the gulag commanders, btw.their purge was all part of 1936 stuff.same for the NKVD/secret state police.
>>737110667Mike Stoklasa?
>>737144627>The commissar numbers, for example?Those are explicitly from 1918 as per their source. >>737144737Those are from the 1930s, but the source is a Nazi, and the amount of 'main gulags' was 12, so it's 11 people. Also, don't discount that people retire, die, get transferred, promoted, demoted etc even without commie purges.
>>737144935>unable to read.>has to make up a fanfiction about the jews retiringwhy do I even fucking botherNevermind how the most damage the soviets did to themself was explicitly during the early years.
>>737140373>classLeftists, yeah.>it's fine to be a pedophile if you're poor because you don't actually care about children and just want to fuel your class war obsession
>>737145152>the most damage the soviets did to themself was explicitly during the early years.So it wasn't in 1936?
>>737114848/v/ tastes are so weird these days, it's like anyone actually white is considered ugly just for being white
>>737145289"Never ask a racist the color of his girlfriend."
>>737110816>talks hot shit but when he gets confronted he turns into a pussyjust like the average /pol/ack chud on 4chan lmao
>>737139329Didn't know disco elysium was written by trump. Wasn't sure he could read.
>>737114848>sees biological woman>thinks of mentally ill men in dresseswhat the fuck is wrong with /v/irgins? is this what happens to you if you stay a NEET shut in even in your 30s?
>>737140373It was written by actual leftists from the eastern bloc, which was the same background from which KGB agents were drawn to demoralize the west in the first place. It is not "beyond the left/right" paradigm in any fashion, anyone who thinks this just mindbroken by the culture war and thinks a man who hates women, foreigners, faggots, and Jews can't be a hard-line communist.
Aren’t all people racist?
>>737110816am I the only one that hears Squidward when he talks?
>>737145507>a man who hates women, foreigners, faggots, and Jews can't be a hard-line communistthey can't thoughever
>>737145648why not? the soviets did, retard.
>>737145375You're only allowed to talk shit without remorse if you're black, obviously.
>>737145275nobody said it was.they started killing their farmers in 1930stalin took power in 1922.they were fucking everything up before that DURING their revolution.are you some sort of ESL that doesn't understand that>the BIG purgesand>the most damageare two different things?
>>737145459Commies are just another flavor of kike
>>737145507>a man who hates women, foreigners, faggots, and Jews can't be a hard-line communist.That was most hard-line communists, including the ones who were women, foreigners, faggots, and Jews.
>>737113725Probably not hard fire hatred, more, petty passive aggressive. He's a slimy bully, but like a bully, he folds the moment anyone puts proper pressure on him, like Harry threatening to rape him to get him to talk about the Lorry Driver.Otherwise, he's just a dead end trucker dealing with local bullshit while trying to get his job done.
>>737145709performative leftist dishonestysoviet communism promoted feminism and dismantled the churchjust because some commieblock slav calls you a pidor for having long hair doesn't mean they are conservativeconservatism is about white values, protestant values, the free market, and the constitution
>>737145726>they started killing their farmers in 1930Now I'm even more confused, I thought the killings of kulaks happened in 1918-1920.
>>737145801>reading comprehensionYou don't have to repeat my point you retard.>>737145859>conservatism is about white values, protestant values, the free market, and the constitutionkek American chuds are so uniquely braindead
>>737145720>literally diesDifference is that he is old and everyone pitties him. The young racist could and should be doing way better for him.
>>737114848>TroooooooonsRent Free.
>>737145941you are the braindead one nigger.liberals are leftist and support anti-american anti-christian politics. russia is semi liberal left like the soviets were, similar to the nazis and iran, which is opposing to conservatism which defends family and freedom in all countries. don't talk about politics if you have no understanding from outside leftist liberal youtube channels. kys
>>737145941Isn't that the opposite of your poiint?
>>737145897you are confusing two things.during the earliest early years, the height of the hysteria during the revolution, angry communists would just kill and steal from ANYBODY that had more things than them, unless they gave up everything they had.a lot of kulaks were killed from that, but far from the majority.Stalin issued a national BIG time official purge later on.He would replace the kulaks with a slave caste (I am not joking) that were forbidden to ever leave their farmlands.THAT would then fall apart 40 years later in the 70s, because the farms were so shit and the farmers so depressed that little was being produced.... including new slave children to work said shit farms.
>>737145289Nah it's weeaboos that want everything to be hentai proportions or go back to the 90s when marketeers pandered to pre-teens with horny sex ads.Of course they'll deny this because they had admitting how shallow the excuse truely is. But that's what is be. I just know I'm the better man for not letting it live rent free in my head.
>>737146081>russia is semi liberal left like the soviets were, similar to the nazis and iran
>>737146081Denounce israel, the talmud, and the torah now.
>>737117016>This vidya character might be a reference to some random literal who faggot podcast!kill yourself
>>737146104Read the post again slowly anon, I beg you.
>>737116240He and Moralism can be boiled down to "Just accept the status quo, don't rock the boat, and all is well. At least we're not Commies or Monarchists". The big tell is the conclusion of Moralism's thought cabinet
>>737146202zionism is pro-american and pro-christian. you are a liberal leftard if you hate israel it's just facts don't be mad.
>>737124974>my Lodge
I've never met a person interested in politics who wasn't a tedious retard
>>737124974>my LodgeYou better be talking about your ski friends
>>737146150>d-cups are hentai nowtrannies can't help themselves
>>737146401and isn't this objectively better than facism with a king too weak to help his people, or communism that's corrupt all the way down.
>>737110667>game made by a bunch of unironic marxist white hating retards>they lose the rights to the game and now a billion dollar corporation takes all the profitsHAHAHAHAHA GET RAPED BY GAY NIGGERS IN HELL LEFTOIDS
>>737146431You bulbous, oven dodging, child fucking, baby dick sucking, coin clipping, nation fleeing, cry-as-you slap, kvetching, pilpuling, parasitic kike.
>>737146738>Trannies Trannies TranniesKeep saying it, it just makes you look more dumber and shallow of a person. Just admit you want to move to Japan already just to oogle the local women without an ounce of care.
>>737147019I assume this is some sort of self-report?wild accusations like this usually are from your kind.
>>737144935>the source is a NaziDisco Elysium intellectuals everyone
>>737146796It's lampshaded by a convo between Joyce and Harry. There is no "Disco" Option (Golden Ending). Martinaisse and Revochol as a whole is a broken place, propped up by people who won a war long ago, and currently has a atomic cannon aimed at the city 24/7, ready to fire, the moment someone says "Labor Rights".The only honest ending is the one where Harry actually makes effort to forget and move on from his ex-something and do the best he can in what's left of the world and his life, before the Pale swallows everything in a quiet, solemn *gulp*.
>>737110667The devs browsed on Reddit and made caricatures based on upvoted posts.
>>737147185OkI know all this, I beat the game, I'm just reminding you and everyone else that the frame of references the game uses for communism, facism, and moralism are based around a broken world and thus aren't one hundred percent applicable to in irl real life
>>737146796But all of them are worse than the hussle, the grind, the net worth!Sure, maybe I sleep in a trash bin, but I know all his well because I'm worth billion!
>>737147185Why dont they aim the atomic laser at the Pale?
>>737114848Game has the ugliest art style for some reason, how can you make a game that looks this ugly is beyond me.
>>737147292Aye, also it's based around Harry's broken mind
>>737143012>only post deleted by janny is the anti communist infograph
>>737129225Go ahead and move to bumfuck shithole then big dog
>>737147307Might as well throw a bomb into a black hole for the good it would do
>>737147356not really anti-communist.its just another /pol/ infograph, unreliable and flawed as usual
>>737147356>unrelated shit get deleted
>>737110667chud just means a dumb guy btw.it was coined in the 2000s.its like a modern version of dunderhead.
>>737110667They didn't>t. rural chud
>>737147403this. I love when poltards throw big charts of rambling garbage with more stars than the night sky, and then fold their arms acting like they've dropped some giant truth bomb that blows our minds.
>>737110667The racist lorry driver is just a racism tutorial NPC.He introduces the player to racism in the game's world, let's you partake in it if you want, let's you you know it may affect your relationship with Kim and Harry's politics, and that's it.He's a very video-gamey character if you look at him from this perspective.
>>737147596???? pisses me off ????I was arguing for what parts could have been accurate.>>737146114>>737145726>>737144737>>737144627/pol/niggers like you disappoint me because you all learn to stop thinking and just post incorrect halftruths or even lies out of laziness.
I feel like the game was fundamentally disingenuous about the options the world has.
>>737147536it means underground dweller, a fantasy mole-person. Someone who is not welcome nor comfortable in civilization.
>>737147756is that supposed to be you, or is it supposed to be me?
>>737147814What do you expect from an alcoholic?
>>737147814there are far FAR more ugly people in the world than pretty. There are more average people than pretty, and more ugly than average.
I am very curious now to see if the polnigger (assuming it was him) was doxxing himself there or if he posted some random fuckers info thinking it was me
>>737147718That...actually makes more sense than I'd like to admit. It's a good way to do it though.I'm still not hurting Kim because he's a bro.
>>737148030I think he deleted his own post hoping to martyr himself, and when it didn't worked, started stirring shit.
>>737148121given the post below you, I think he might be having an actual melty
>only the post calling out communists is being deleted
>>737147814Revachol is an economically impoverished archipelago that’s largely inspired by modern real world Estonia. It’s not like the area has that much draw for people to visit. “The world” may have more options, but Revachol certainly doesn’t.
>>737148319Only the communists are sad enough to samefag and actually use the report function in a shitpost thread.
>>737110667Because Chuds are boring individuals with similar personalities.
>>737148420case in point, the people derailing a disco elysium thread.
>>737148470>he says, continuing to derail the thread so he could complain about the thread being derailed
>>737148319these threads are some of the most blatant discordtroon invasions
The Seolites crashed my car
If you want a game that actually mocks capitalism and western society there are better options.
>>737148672DE mocks western society?
>>737117984Moralism isn’t about “believing” anything, but rather the opposite; it’s about people pleasing and abandoning strong convictions in order to fit in. The game will repeatedly clown on you for being a moralist because of how comically centrist it is. It’s also not a value system that resonates with any of the locals, as the only characters in game who adhere to it are both directly part of the moral-intern in some capacity and aren’t even from Martinese
>>737128432They were kind of like in the "anti-woke leftist" "dirtbag" left sphere, but yes, they've gone full right wing and hang out with Peter Thiel now>>737131605That whole scene is basically dead now. Red Scare sold out, Cumtown is gone, Chapo's best member had a stroke that makes him unable to speak properly so he quit and the other two guys basically just shit out low effort slop to grift the people who forgot to cancel their patreons.
>>737148672Hello Handler
>>737148614>the only idealogical-specific portrait is exclusive to fascism what did the devs mean by this.
>>737149168Fascism is just aesthetics and larping.
>>737145859>conservatism was invented by WASPsplease kill yourself you gay ass fucking larper faggot
>>737149286this. It's Werhaboos that put on moth-balled Wehrmacht Trench coats and pretend they have authority over their lives.
>>737146081>russia is semi liberal leftHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH....hhh..... hh.... ...hhhh..............*wheeze* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AINT NO WAY AMERICAN KEKISTANIS ACTUALLY THINK THIS SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>737149286It’s also the only portrait that causes Harry to look respectable. Other options are forced creepy disco smile and sad old man with puppy eyes.
>>737149624Russia has legalized abortions and feminism. It’s an extremely woke country.
>>737148815idk. /pol/acks are literally sub 80 IQ retards and they think communism = anti-western even though its a western ideology lmao
>>737148978Moralism CAN be about wanting to make positive change, but its something that needs to be calculated and carried out tempered. Nothing in the world can be a true pure positive without having downstream effects and consequences, befitting the masses is a balancing act that truly calls for measuring and calculating the potential risks involved, just as the Coalition woman says. In the same way that capitalism, communism, and fascism can all become corrupt, so too can moralism in the sense where they seek to never improve anything and sustain themselves on the bounty their people amassed.
Enlighten me on Cunoism.
>>737149885You respect the Cuno, or you get fucked by the Cuno.
>>737149885>step 1: don't give a fuck about nothing>step 2:???>step 3: profit
>>737149885trauma blocking + retardmaxxing
Reminder that if you buy Zero Parades you're funding legal action against the people who created the world of Disco Elysium.
>>737141867wtf i love the fash now
>>737150054It also makes leftists seethe, so I boughted it twice
About to go for a 2nd playthrough for ultralib. Good copotype and thoguths/skills for it?
>>737148586>no u sad!
>>737150463I am not the one complaining about derailing the thread.I see nothing wrong with it :)YOU are complaining about something while actively continuing it.
>>737150457Superstar cop with high intellect and reflexes with tagged savoir faire. Wear as many collectible and brand clothing as you can.
>>737149885It's about letting others know you don't care when in secret you care deeply
>>737149885you don't give a fuck
I really liked though it wasn't nearly as good as disco, and I doubt it will be remembered in ten years. But somehow I get the feeling any other game aping disco won't even be as good as this one
This game understands me.
>>737150987what's the vibe, if DE is melancholy?
>>737153163If DE was reddit chungus D&D but the world building was still good in spite of shamelessly borrowing from two other sources. It has some heart
>>737147236The characters are based more on musicians, fringe Youtube personalities and political figures, sometimes characters from books, not exactly ebin reddit posts.
>>737145375hes literally just a nice kid whose upset about his nation being run by ultraliberals and you're seething about him instead of the ultraliberals
>>737110816Who exactly was he talking to?
>>737139814I just think him being a black supremacist is a hell of a lot funnier than him being a white supremacist. It's like Black isreali nonsense, down right comical.
>>737135225This guy talked way too much. Listened to him once then loaded back to knock him out instead.In fact this game needed more options to just chimp out on people instead of getting talked down to for several minutes before eventually letting you move on.
Commie tranny furfag game.
>>737156456she looks like she fucks white guys
>>737154878>you cant dislike two things at a time!!!who says i dont hate the ultraliberals? even ultraliberals like joyce hates ultraliberals and knows she is evil
>>737156554you didyou literally never do anything about ultraliberalsyou just whine about kids
>>737156637???????
>>737156417beating the child is fun.
who is the most fuckable wöman in the whole game? Something about Joyce's attitude is kind of sexy
>>737158642kim
>>737158642joyce definitely fucked like an animal in her youth.
>>737158642Cunoese
>>737158642le funny pedos need not reply btw
>>737158642cuno
test desugod save us all from this new captcha system
>>737158642canonically it's this semen demon
>>737159212she is a powerful seducer but i bet she fucks bad, like IRL vocal fry ironic detached bohemian women.
>>737159698id still fuck dasha
>>737114848looks like your average slav whore
>>737159212She is a literal whore named Classy.
Is Disco Elysium the Final Cut worth it? I know it is a CRPG with no combat but my idea to that is Fallout 2 with no combat so, pure dialogue-speech check gameplay?
>>737159921yesand there's nothing wrong with this. Before DE, Planescape: T was widely regarded as the best CRPG and it's 95% dialogue checks.
>>737159921absolutely. its made by based slavs that truly wholeheartedly love CRPG and have great taste. Planescape is a prime inspiration for the game. Watched a ton of interviews with Kurvitz, Rostov, etc. and they are all inspired by typical slav-coded games like PS:T, Fallout, Heroes of Might and Magic, and others. here they list some of their general inspirations:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/632470/view/3334287173823797600
>Indirect Modes of Taxation>requires you to shill your philosophy to literally generate moneyAbsolutely brilliant design.
>>737110667>tumblr nosesyikes
Is he being sarcastic or genuine here?
>>737148319Only commies report posts. So the dumbass commie posts don't get deleted alongside the rest.
>>737160504>muttmerican from mexico doesnt know that cold wet environments will give white people red noseslmao.
>>737160708I would say yes
>>737131668>Which is conservatism.
>>737143550
>>737161387remember the 6 trillion cows>t. a jewish guy
>>737161476
>>737161387>>737161567>try to steal property>property burned insteadcommunists are so stupid
>>737161584>starve
>>737161624>communists realize actions have consequencesoh no!they starved themselves plenty afterwards with their retarded slave-farmer ideas
>>737161624>try to steal food>diewtf
>>737160968>unironically defending a tumblr game/v/ has fallen
>>737161654>>737161698party could feed themselvesit was non communist plebs that starved
>>737161839>rich are communist>poors aren'tcrazy
>>737161839you mean the greedy "capitalist pigs" that were "loyal communisty members" ?communists are so stupid lmaoalways being a foot soldier for the same people they supposedly hate
>>737161871>>737161947maybe that is too complicated for you but most people in ussr wasn't communistand party is another matter
>>737162012Yes, I am aware that the communist party was the typical chosen upper caste that pillaged and raped the lessers while using expendable cultists to shield themselves, retard.Communists are SOFUCKINGSTUPID
>>737162068>chosen upper caste that pillaged and raped the lessers while using expendable cultists to shield themselvesThat is true for any systemYou are the one who is retarded cultist who can't see beyond his ideological blinder and probably sodomite too. I am just a man who post funny pictures that make retards seethe for some reason.
>>737162179>guys communism is special we will eliminate the classes and rise up to make utopia so just shut up and destroy everything>classless? what do you mean classless!? SHUT UP AND DIG THE DITCH, COMRADEcommunists are sooooooooooooooo stupid
>>737162219They may be but you are just plain retarded and probably brown.
>>737162274>how DARE you criticize communism!>only stupid brown people laugh at my glorious communismnah
>>737162274>muh based kike>no you're brownOkay tranny.
>>737162179>muh based shitskins
>>737114848i was deep in crippling alcoholism when DE dropped and i first played it. I'm fucking floored when i looked at her now, 4 years sober, it's day and night. i can't believe i even thought it was a woman at all. beer goggles are 100% real
>>737117984>>737119571>>737131668>>737148978>>737149810marxism is an amoral ideology, which explains how it always ends up leading to totalitarianism and fascism
>>737162381Trannies are product of capitalism(just like you), lmao>>737162354>>737162436seethe more
>>737162517pushed by communism lolcommunists are soooooooooooooofuuuuuuuuckingstuuuuuupid lmaoretarded little cultistnothing more than a religious freak
>>737162558
>>737162623communists throwing a fit because he's stuuuuuuuupid lmao.>dude we wont starve THIS time its different just have FAITH (but its NOT faith religion is evil like capitalism >:0 )
>>737162681
>>737162717>NOOOOOO my glorious communism WILL work this time capitalism killed so many people>what do you MEAN my glorious communism caused all these genocides thats not MY communism that was evil capitalism>Monybags McScrewU is a based and TRUE believer of communism he will make it work this time around!Communists, literally EVERY time
>>737162717i got myself a paperclip
>>737150987I think I liked EBB more than Disco because it's a coming of age story first and foremost. THE Cleric is such a good character to explore the world with.
>>737158740Kattokaa, tää helvetin pedo haluaa panna lasta! Anna tulla kyrpä! Et selviä kolmea sekunttia sisälläni!
>>737162784That is a weird strawman to create and then melt over.
>>737163058>stupid communist starts schizo posting unironically>"nooooo stop remembering history its a strawman to remember all the times communism failed!"
>>737162517>muh based kikeAnything else, shitskin?
>>737163160All sides are kikes. Every opposition is controlled one. >>737163143Even for a retard you are retarded. Are you false flagging or something?
>>737113492the basederterlives on an island in autarky kills mercenary mongrels goons to women through his scope all daymakes the elite mad because he's not using a phone
>>737163253>stop laughing at my commmunism!!!!!!nofuck off to pol
>>737163253>my based chinksect
>>737163297Adam Smith was not a chink. Do you even know who he was? Why retards like you even post anything.
>>737163376he just wanted to jump in.so anywayscommunists are soooo fucking stupid
If the Disco Elysium creators love communism why didn't they make their game f2p?
>>737163447One retard jump to help another retard. Fitting. I bet you two would starve under communism.
>>737163539>i bet people would starve under communismwhat a risky bet
>>737163539Everyone but the rich starves under communism though
>>737163584>>737163585well... now its gonna look like a filthy phoneposter made it
>>737163376Why was your insect leader so obsessed with BWC? Why are all your idols shitskins and kikes?
>>737149770It also seeks to dismantle every traditional institution in the West and fundamentally shift its cultures.
>>737145720and bisexual
>>737140373It just feels like it's written by those rare smart /pol/ users.
>disco elysium is communistok, let me see…>commie revolution got mogged, now martinaise is simply a harbour with stubborn people stuck in an idealized past and that’s why they are suffering, because they haven’t moved on just like harry hasn’t moved on from his divorce>union leader and union are social democrats, i.e welfare/union-affirming capitalists, barely anything to do with communism>game’s characters make fun of you for being commie, even the teenage disco girl says you need pussy not revolution>game makes fun of you by saying you achieved 0.0001% of communism or something if you continue as a commie and that you need to smell people to see if they are commie or not>the only existing communist group is a bunch of doomed trotskyist college kids that want to larp>the only real communist in the game, the deserter, also creates a riot because he was an incel who mistook his perpetual inceldom for le true marxismany anon who says this game is commie either didn’t play it or got filtered by reading
>>737156502>white guysYuck!
>>737110667The Bourgeoisie are not human.
>>737164901Thank you Marx and Engels!
>>737165560Probably the realest line ever put in a game, given the context.
>>737131184Dude, he's not meant to be credible. He's like fucking 12.
>>737168674I know the truth of it way too well.
>>737145158Isn't the issue that it's literally the opposite? Average people go to jail for it as they should and the rich fucks get away with it save for a fall guy or two. Plus there's a big difference in what can be done about nonces kicking around in the general populus vs a structured human trafficking ring.
>>737110667He literally lives in a big city. Are you retarded?
>>737117984It's the only sensible ideology. All the other ones are about going to war for a glorious utopia, that never really manifests, even if they win.Though obviously it's not going to appeal to losers who want to rage at the world around them.
>>737110816>play Disco Elysium>Gary spregs out about Yellow Chink races using time travel communication to send themselves ideas and technology from the future to give them an edge against white people>Yeah okay buddy take your meds>read the books>mfw he was right
EVERY WORKER...A MEMBER IN MY ASS
>>737159786Adam...
>>737164901>now martinaise is simply a harbour with stubborn people stuck in an idealized past and that’s why they are suffering, because they haven’t moved onNo I think it's because the entire city is without any form of self-governance due to the United Nations swooping in to crush the Communists and then declaring it a "Zone of Control" for the next 50 years with no serious intention of allowing it to ever self-govern again, with battleships and airships forming a cordon of instant death if the people get uppity and decide to force change on themselves.
>>737160708If you've got good PSY stats EdC or Suggestion will pipe in with "he really does, he's trying to see if your stupid antics are throwing her off her game"
>>737159921Because combat is so demphisized yet there are dozens of dozens of skill checks it truly feels way more like a crpg than 99% of RPGs of today
>>737118000>listen to this 20 minute bit about a highscooler fucking his gay principal
>>737140373>always kind of assumed disco elysium was a game written by leftist retards without looking much into it>it's more like it was written by people who are probably on an NSA/CIA/mossad watchlist for being beyond the left/right paradigm and aiming straight for the epstein classI know you're just gonna reject this but this is what leftists actually are. The blue haired liberal trans starbucks barista that voted for Hillary and Kamala is not a leftist. Leftism is about abolishing hierarchies and fighting inequality not working within systems of oppression just to benefit niche special interest groups. The vast majority of Capitalism's political resources are spent fighting against the rise of organic left-wing thoughtcriminals and replacing them with reactionary pop culture debates about [current thing] to keep the goyim distracted.The moment the bourgeois can no longer control the masses with reactionary meme social issues is when the entire working class will rise up in unison and take charge of their own destiny, and the political establishment will die and be replaced with eternal global peace and prosperity.
>>737149706>It’s also the only portrait that causes Harry to look respectable>to lookThat's the point. Facism is aesthetics and larping. He is still the alcoholic broken schizo even if he hides it behind a mask
>>737176001>actually all those bad things leftists do aren't leftists because leftists don't do bad things because leftists are benevolentYou actually believe this lmao
>>737176940I think a lot of disco elysium players just can't read between the lines with this stuff. I'm not sure if it released at the best or worst possible political landscape because aesthetics IS everything in our current politics and zoomzooms can't tell the difference between depicting yourself as cool and actually being cool.>>737176956shalom
>>737177248>shalomCommunism is a jewish invention
>>737176001>The moment the bourgeois can no longer control the masses with reactionary meme social issues is when the entire working class will rise up in unison and take charge of their own destinyHello Engel, you were wrong about this in 1848, you are wrong about it today in 2026. The working class is not stupid, they are not sheep mind controlled by LE EVIL CAPITALIST magicans. Your elitist upbringing has blinded you to the truth, that the working class is making value judgments every single day, and they are choosing capitalism every single day because socialism doesn't offer them enough in exchange.
>>737177697>the working class is making value judgments every single day, and they are choosing capitalism every single day because socialism doesn't offer them enough in exchange.You're actually on the mark about this, but that value judgement is constantly changing. look at how things are going in China: support for the CCP is at all time highs as young educated professionals overwhelmingly support their government for providing economic prosperity and shielding them from the financial crises happening in the rest of the world. the more America fucks shit up, the more support for the CCP grows in China as the people there are glad to not be living in America.fundamentally the American left has completely failed its people and failed at communicating its ideas to sound remotely appealing to the American working class. Lenin talked about this a lot, that when socialism fails it is a failure of the leadership and not a failure of the people.but also the American left is constantly being sabotaged by wreckers and infiltrators from the democrats that just want you to talk about blue haired trannies and abortion rights instead of workers rights issues. DSA is a complete joke of an organization and tailing the Dems has been disastrous for the Left but the goyim are at least waking up nowadays after being burned too many times by Liberalism.
>>737117016
>>737178265>Lenin talked about this a lot, that when socialism fails it is a failure of the leadership and not a failure of the people.It's always a failure of leadership because people need to be led in to the slaughter that is unrestrained socialism
>>737110667its not that impressive. i think 100 more disco elysiums could easily be made if game devs actually read classic literature instead of tiktok and cartoons
>>737181191>read classic literatureWhat do you consider classic literature?
>>737172573Are there any good Disco Elysium YTPs?
>>737181231clifford the big red dog
>>737175924>veeery good, Mr. Shapiro
>>737148987>>737131605Horseshoe theory never not accurate, all extremism of all kinds is all just coping and seething.
Your body betrays your degeneracy.
>>737173232The problem is that you are looking at Martinaise, and Martinaise only. Look at the borders of the map the game allows you to travel to. There’s normal suburbs beyond the fence bordering the fishing village, and there’re normal roads and highways beyond the blockaded lock and roundabout. Martinaise is a harbour adjacent to a dilapidated area, but the rest of Revachol isn’t this way. If you put points into Shivers and Encyclopaedia it becomes more apparent that Revachol has moved on while Martinaise specifically hasn’t.While the Moralintern has held Revachol in an iron grip, the state/“zone of control” itself isn’t doing too bad. You only get the worst of it by being in Martinaise where the airships are called to patrol over due to the strike and riots. And we saw how bad things can get without order with the tribunal. If you look around for the vestiges of the communist government, what do you find? Signs of economic development, of prosperity and equality? No, just guns, guns and more guns, and the artists and engineers being marched off to be executed while their offices lie abandoned.Communist states exist in the world of Disco Elysium, in Graad and elsewhere. But in Revachol it turned into a French Revolution 2.0 with all the executions and violence. And people need to move on.
>>737164901The Claires are just Napoleon from Animal Farm, using cuthtroat BUISNESS and CORPORATE LEADERSHIP tactics to make their essentially feudal control of the city so the two of them can reap the rewards. I mean, it's self evident that under my American education poising me naturally against Communism and Socialism I don't believe that Communist leaders ever believe in the cause at all and only seek to benefit themselves. Perhaps one can fail to face the cognitive dissonance of both preaching "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" while raking in the perks of being a Glorious Leader with still having good intentions, but hat's how it always starts and doesn't end. And I will say the exact same for democratic leaders too, but the consequences of that corruption are typically on the lower end (though Trump is giving me a run for my money)
>>737181456No that I know of, but I'm thinking of either doing something like that or a Newgrounds style parody. I can do a decent Ancient Reptilian voice, and Garte feels like a dialed-back Everart with a Squidward tone
Any game that causes full-blown /pol/cel melties is a masterpiece.
>>737150987Ebb is better than Disco thoughever
>>737114848I think she’s supposed to look like Laura Dern.
>>737194184Kind of reminds me how Harry can talk to some women in a simp-like fashion.
>>737192054>the cityMartinaise is a harbour and a slum village. There are developed areas if you look past the fences in the fishing village and the blockades: suburbs, proper roads, highways and so on. If you put points in Shivers and Encyclopedia it becomes more apparent that Martinaise is a shithole and an exception to the rest of Revachol. The Evrarts cannot exert control over “the city”, they can only do so with Martinaise specifically and other areas like Jamrock don’t have much if any influence from the Union. If anything, the Evrarts want control over Martinaise so that they can change it via economic development (re-establish the commercial district, create a youth and shopping center in the fishing village, renovate buildings). The “socialism” here extends as far as a local union obtains permissions from local homeowners to build on its own land with its own money, a far cry from any “collective ownership of the means of production” that Marxist socialism is about. It’s completely capitalist by even the Marxist definition.
>>737197317I basically agree about the Claires and think I didn't do a well enough job explaining their tactics are capitalistic in nature. The Wild Pines harbor is a blast furnace to an otherwise freezing landscape of the immediate area. Though even if there are suburbs right near by, they make it a huge point to talk about what a shithole Jamrock also is. So I don't think I agree with the majority of Revachol being fine, I think much of it is still bad. Didn't Harry also comment that the video store from his memories is long gone and that shopping center went to shit similarly? Remember the Union signature quest, I'm half with Joyce thinking it will be more a monument to Everart than it will be a boon to the people, and for a man finger is on the pulse of Martinese, he sure chose a poor spot to dick over the fishing village residences when instead he could have just repurposed that abandoned shopping center right fucking next to him. But all this is to say I've been made aware of socialist tactics for subverting or winning over people and rhetoric, but I'm very unfamiliar with the playbook of how either a communist or socialist leader operates, at least in the idealized way. Still, ironic that even in DE I can see "true communism has never been tried" being an applicable statement.
