The whole game only happened because one whore thought she was smart enough to scam two megacorps, a major gang, the fixer she approached with the contract and the mercs he hired.
>>737110687no one knows who this mental illness walking cum dumpster is nor what shit depression quest game you are talking about faggot.
>>737110992not enough buzzwords
>>737110992I know what it is though
>>737110992It's written in the filename.
>>737110687What possessed her to become a doll, was being a regular hooker with rich clients not enough?
>>737110992>everyone, look how retarded I am
>>737111286She only returns to Clouds after the heist. I imagine she did it to protect herself
>>737110687everything involving this character is confusing.still don't know why she wants the relic and why she got raped and kidnapped.
>>737111546Have you tried not being retarded? She got hired by the Voodo Boys to help them steal the relic. She thought the plan was great so decided to copy it, but cut the Voodoo Boys out. In order to escape from all the people she scammed who are now trying to kill her after getting the relic, she would sell it to Netwatch who would put her in protective custody and she would get away with everything.
>>737110992trying too hard lurk more
>>737111765>she would sell it to Netwatch who would put her in protective custody and she would get away with everything.this is new information for me, when does it get explained?
>>737111546That hacker gang contacted her and offered one gorillion euroburger coins if she managed to steal the relic from her sugar daddy (yes, the hackers are also retarded. It's CP77, everyone has brain damage).The same hackers also fucked her brain with hacker magic while she was in doll mode at the Clouds because she failed to get the relic, so her brain turned off and she turned into a glorified onahole, and everyone loves onaholes so she was sold and kidnapped and obviously used multiple times.
>>737111907Encoded message on the computer in the room with the Netwatch Agent.https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Bryce_Mosley/Computers
>>737110687Felt bad for her, classic case of a desperate person getting knee deep in shit with things they don't understandFuck her for causing the plot, but also feel kinda bad for her.
>>737110687The silliest thing about the whole heist situation is that Arasaka pinned Saburo's murder on V, Bug and Jackie and then didn't bother to go after V because he was just a tool in a greater scheme and let him continue to operate in the city without giving a fuck. This is a Megacorp who owns the world and Saburo was basically considered a living god; why in the fuck wouldn't they immediately tie up any loose ends and ice the person they say murdered him?
>>737112815Arasaka did not even want to find V lol. Yorinobu took over, if V was ever actually caught he would have to suicide him so word doesn't get out to the rest of the top brass about who really killed Saburo. It's why they did such a half-assed job going after him.
>>737112815they failed to stop us from stealing top girl at arasaka, their patrol vehicle, I passed that thing while arriving at the location goro messaged memessage, like a phone sms, I guess arasaka is too retarded to hack my phone baka baka
>>737112953Exactly. It would be in Yorinobu's best interest to find and kill V ASAP as the only one who knew what actually happened in the hotel room. No one would have raised an eyebrow at Yorinobu sending every Arasaka death squad available to locate and kill V after the Heist, easily played off as a grieving son wanting revenge for his slain father.
>>737113004Phones aren't really a thing in Cyberpunk. You just call people with the chip in your head.
>>737110992I do tho
>>737113164No because they would have to drag V in for interrogation to find out who ordered the hit on Saburo. If V then just conveniently died it would be extremely sus for Yorinobu. The best solution was to just not find V.
>>737113173holocalls are chipped I guessbut sms is still with this thing I assume, it has a phone icon, also explain this!
>>737112815Because if Saburo used even 10% of Arasawa's power to kill V the game would've ended one day after the heist>Why didn't Arasawa bomb the entire Megabuilding H10 while V was sleeping in his apartment?
>>737110992I know who she is, but yes she is a mental illness walking cum dumpster in a shit depression quest game.
>>737113442That's modded. SMS are literally stored inside your head's drive iirc. The interface you see is what V sees.
>>737113779no, only mod is hair color choicesI assume you don't have the game and can't just check the selfie pose in the photomode?
>>737113270It'd be trivial to make up a story that he fought back when they came to detain him and had to be murked.
>>737114043Is that canon? It was added in photomode patch after release and it's a single meme pose mimicking selfies
>>737114237you even called it modded, not its not canonmake up your damn mind, lying bastard
>>737112815They sent Takemura and Yorinobu murdering Saburo was probably a public secret.
>>737112815This isn't well explained in game but Yorinobu changed his mind and pretended that he didn't know who killed his father, because it was more politically useful that way - he could act like maybe one of the other corps did it
>>737115398He wanted to pin it on Militech so he could start another corpo world war to destroy Arasaka from the inside
>>737112338>simping for whores
>>737110992>taking pride in ignorancewhat causes this
>>737112815everyone at Arasaka already knew Yorinobu killed Saburo, Hanako says as much.Board members are just biding their time to see whether supporting Yorinobu is in their interest.
>>737115609I blame her for what she did, I just feel bad when a person fucks up so hard that they end up killing themselves.Simping has nothing to do with it.
Parker! I need engrams! Engrams of Johnny Silverhand!
>>737116739is he gay for j?
Theory: Saburo is coming back.The whole relic project was his baby, he tested it to perfection 70 years before the events of the game.Yorinobu has a relic with Saburo on it.You kill Yorinobu, starting the relic's process.The Emperor is always multiple ply ahead.
>>737117667Except it's a copy of him and not really Saburo.
>>737119354well this goes to the whole discussion of Star Trek teleports actually disintegrating you and then rebuilding an exact clone on the target location with your memories is it you? Well, yes and no.
>>737115698lack of intelligence
>>737110687and it almost worked
>>737113779>>737113173multiple npcs make actual phone calls all the time.
>>737119705no they literally say you die and a new copy is made. and that the copy isn't even 100% either.
>>737110687She was smart enough to scam the fixer though. It's literally all Dex's fault, even if the heist went off without a hitch they were never going to get paid and that's his fucking job.
>>737110687H U B R I SUBRIS
>>737111286There are some lines from Judy about how a doll implant is hard to use and only really top end escorts can handle them or something. >>737111541Yes, a plot hole IMO. The moment the heist failed, or at least when /v/ disappeared (to Evelyn), she should've fled Night City as fast as possible.>>737112338She's also a brainlet for thinking she'll scam Dex (which maybe she could get away with), the VDBs (which she could absolutely not get away with), and possibly you (the safest bet ironically, since you're just a jobber merc by that point).>>737113173Several characters have physical phones, but yeah, most calls are done through the holo.
>>737120398Maybe they're like people today without smartphones
>>737120269No it didn't. Even if V did agree to cut Dex out and go with her, how the fuck was she gonna get the relic off him? She had no money to pay and the Netwatch deal was a one person ticket.
>>737110687Nah the voodoo boys were always gonna fuck everything up and so would yorinobu and saburo. Things would have been even worse if the heist didnt happen though, cause saburo would have the relic tech back intact without a protagonist there to keep it away from him. Yorinobu wouldn't have won the fight he started.
>>737121349In its original plan, I think /v/ was supposed to deliver the Relic to Dex, who would hold it until Evelyn brokered a deal with Netwatch. Then they'd all meet, hand over the Relic, get their eddies, and V gets his/her share some time later.After the heist gets fucked up, Evelyn and Dex would've differed, with Evelyn probably trying to take V to a ripperdoc to get the Relic out and sell it herself, while Dex would just want V and Evelyn dead to distance himself and not get killed when Arasaka comes after everyone.>>737121529>the VDBs were always gonna fuck everything upYes, the moment Evelyn thought she was smarter than them, everyone tied up in the heist, excluding Dex probably, would just have mysterious 'net accidents' (VDB cooking them remotely). The entire VDB storyline you do in Pacifica is them just fucking you over repeatedly and then being surprised you made it out alive and pretending they didn't try to fuck you over. It's always morally correct to kill every single one of them.
>>737120558Consciousness is kept from start to finish of the transportation. If there's no break in consciousness then can you really say it was death? The corporal body may be different but the string of thought stays unbroken.
>>737121687She was always going to try and scam Dex and V from the start.
>>737121795Dex certainly, because she even approaches you with the offer to do so right after the meeting at Judy's. I don't think she'd scam V, at least not before the heist went bad, but she definitely didn't give a fuck about Dex.
I'm playing the game right now, just unlocked the DLC. This game cucks you out of opportunity for revenge so many times, but at least I was able to eventually behead every single VDB in Pacifica.I kind of regret going Melee Blades + Throwing Weapons though. The latter on its own is fun enough that I don't need the former. What could I replace it with though?
>>737115553Yori wanted to destroy every corp by using nukes.
>>737110687sounds like an accurately written female
>>737122007Throwing weapons are stealth mostly (for headshots), but you can turn them into a meme machine with a Sandevistan. I did a throwing weapons only build and it was so-so. Bladed melee + sandevistan is basically cheat mode, too.
>>737110992First post worst post, seriously if you are this retarded its better to remain silent.
>>737121762we're not talking about star trek man
>>737121762The buffer is a lie. Remember when the two Rikers thing happened? Where did the consciousness for the second Riker come from?
>>737110992Summertime Saga, if you’re interested
>>737117667you missed the "blink and you'll miss it," moment in the "devil" ending. right after you defeat yori and start descending to the basement with Anders, you'll see Hanako lifting Yori while also inserting Saboro's relic into her brother. that bitch sacrificed her brother to bring back her father.
>>737110687she looks my trans mom
>>737110687>>737111546>>737111765>>737111907I thought the plan to steal it and sell it to NetWatch was the initial plan.What do the negroo boys want with it anyway?Not like they would ever listen to rock music, anyway.
>>737110992Imagine bragging about being ignorant
>>737111281>CP77What does it mean?
Only reason VoodooNigs and Netwatched wanted the relic was because Johnny was on it and that he fucked one of the most important AI while she was still flesh. They don't know the truth and probably think it's bigger than that, I wonder how disapointed they would have been when either party noticed it's just some ai ex-lover that might get them to meet her once at best.
>>737127751I think the general plan with the Relic was this:>VDBs know Johnny Silvehand's engram is on it>VDBs know the Blackwall is cracking and it's only a matter of time before the rogue AIs spill out and fuck over everyone>VDBs want to get on the 'good side' of the rogue AIs before this happens, so they want to talk to Alt Cunningham's engram (who lives on the other side of the Blackwall)>VDBs need Johnny's engram to find Alt and make contactAnd after that, the VDBs presumably think they can make a deal with Alt or get her protection/favor somehow, so they survive when the AI apocalypse happens.
>>737127751>What do the negroo boys want with it anyway?They wanna contact Alt, so they thought offering her ex boyfriend's personality construct would get her to stop ghosting them.
>>737128442>>737128713That makes sense. But why do they want to fuck V over with the virus they uploaded (according to the glownigger from NetWatch)?Just to tie up a loose end?t. brainlet
>>737112121>fandom linkKill yourself
>>737129387It's literally a transcribed shard from the game
>>737129193>why do they want to fuck V over with the virus they uploadedThey're aholes like that. There's a reason everyone warns you not to try and deal with them.
>>737125441>that bitch sacrificed her brother to bring back her father.Given her brother murdered her father, that's not bitchiness, that's poetic justice.
>>737114173It would be even more trivial for the most powerful man in the world to just quietly kill V without the rest of Arasaka ever finding out.The real truth is that it's a plot hole due to the game being obviously chopped apart and stitched back together, reworked, rewritten, and changed direction and story who knows how many times.
>>737129193They're total assholes. IIRC the term they use for outside help literally translates to "a used rag".
>>737129193because they're scum and the netwatch agent is completely in the right.
>>737128442>VDBs know the Blackwall is cracking and it's only a matter of time before the rogue AIs spill out and fuck over everyone90% of this is because THEY'RE THE ONES BREAKING IT!
>>737130719Dogshit
>>737120721The inconsistency of Arasaka's ability to track people down bothers me. When the plot wants them to find you, they're the boogeyman and can find anyone, anytime Meanwhile, V can just traipse into their HQ and massacre a few hundred of their employees and just take a bus out of town after buying a kid a million dollar guitar.
>>737131286The game's shoddily written, that's really all it is.
>>737121687>It's always morally correct to kill every single one of them.Fucking this. Once I can understand; I'm an unknown quantity. At any point after that, their hostility is a death sentence for the entire faction.Ironic that they're killed by a roving cyberzombie Samedi analog.
>all the black people are selfish pieces of shit except the chocolate qt you can romanceCD Projekt Red more like CD Projekt Chud
>>737127993amerimutts are like dat, it's pretty funny.
>>737129193VDBs are just the worst gang in the city, worse than Scavs even because at least scavs never tried to pretend to be your friends
>>737131580I love massacring the voodooniggers, surprised CDPR lets us do it
>>737131702Every time I replay the game, I decide to finally not side with Netwatch this time and see the other turnout of the quest, but when the moment comes, I'm always swayed by the promise of all these smug VDB cunts getting fucking grilled horribly, before I put a bullet into the big dude's gorilla face.
>>737131825My first playthrough I wasn't paying attention and sided with VDB's. Guess what? You can just massacre them all anyway after the meetup with Alt.
>>737129974>t. glowie
>>737132048This might actually be better, to give it the personal touch. I assumed there'd be some sort of fallout, because their shitty virus would still be in V.
>>737132172The netwatch guy wasn't telling you the whole story but at least he didn't plant a suicide cyberbomb in you
>>737110687You obtuse nigger... You don't know shit
>>737130719Kinda reminds me to prime Dana DeArmond™
>>737132185No it's kinda retarded actually. The virus just fails to kill V for no reason.
>>737132530Wasn't it because of Johnny and the Relic?
What was the reason for why out of all of the personality constructs Arasaka kept stashed in the Mikoshi they picked fucking Johnny Silverhand to put into their priceless Relic prototype?This probably got explained at some point, but I honestly don't remember>>737110687Well, it turned out as expected for her, but in a way it's inspiring how much havoc and power shift a literal nobody could cause for half of major players in the city by just fucking around
>>737132263Ha I'm just joking, I also sided with them because of... reasons.
>>737132667That's the standard 2077 deus ex machina
>>737132943It was a prototype and they were planning to kill Johnny either way.Maybe they assumed that turning him into a computer chip would allow them to "read" his memories and figure out who gave him those nukes.
I helped netwatch because to be honest, i dont like niggers
>>737133613I shot the netwatch nerd and then I got cyberbomb'd and then I killed mama bridge and plastice
>>737129193I believe it's because of this:>the job the VDBs hire V to do (through talking with Hands) is to go into the GYM to neutralize the Netwatch asshole>the Netwatch asshole has the VDB's subnet, called 'Rezo Agwae', locked down>Maman Bridgitte (the VDB boss) is trapped in the VDB subnet (by the Netwatch guy) and can't talk or get out>Placide, the VDB dickhead who hires you, has no idea about the Relic or anything (this is mentioned later by Maman Bridgitte herself)>because Placide doesn't know about the Relic, he's content to send you on a suicide mission into the GIM because VDBs view everyone who isn't a VDB as disposable (this is the 'ranyon' comment about being a 'rag you throw away')>but V does the GIM job and survives and gets to meet Maman Bridgitte>Maman B realizes 'holy shit, the Relic is what we wanted and this retard has it' and that's why you do the cyberspace thing to let them get in touch with AltI always murder those VDB cocksuckers the moment I'm out of the ice bath, unless you side with the Netwatch guy, in which case I think Alt blows their heads up (the VDBs) when Netwatch springs their trap
>>737130916Partially. The whole 'muh impenetrable blackwall' thing is also a marketing meme from Netwatch to sell their services. The rogue AIs and whatevers on the other side are continually evolving and sneaking past/through the Blackwall already. It's just a matter of time before the dam breaks.
>>737132943Nothing about the Relic is consistent or makes any sense at all. In the Devil ending they say the Relic target body needs to be genetically compatible (parent-and-child level of compatible) for it to work, but Johnny has no problem taking over V's body who has no relation to him at all...unless V is somehow his secret grandkid or something equally as retarded as that.
women, amIright lads?
>>737133856Johnny('s engram) doesn't have a choice about taking over V because it's just something the Relic does automatically. What happens in the Devil ending is Arasaka tries to disentangle Johnny from V (more or less what Alt does in the other endings), but with leaving V's body intact and safe from the Relic trying to overwrite it on a nano-cellular level. Arasaka can't manage to do it, so V has degradation and memory loss and whatever else, which is why Arasaka says 'Hey, you're dying anyway, so why not let us put you in Mikoshi as an engram?'The Relic works for Saburo because Hanako kills Yorinobu, then puts in the Relic (with Saburo's engram). In V's case, the Relic starts the takeover process after Dex kills you (Robocop style), but then V wakes up and has the 'I'm losing my body to Johnny' storyline. The main fuckup seems to have been V putting the relic in his/her head while he/she was still alive, which I guess starts the takeover process, but minorly at first, and then it kicked into high gear once you get shot by Dex, and the Relic thinks 'Oh, the host body is dead. Time to really take this bitch over.'
>>737134157That's not what I meant. When Takemura (or Hellman, though I've never seen that one because who the fuck does Devil with dead Takemura) shows up, he tells V Hanako is willing to sign him for Secure Your Soul shit (where V's engram will eventually get uploaded to a Relic and inserted into someone's body) but it might be a while before he gets a compatible body, and when V asks why didn't Saburo have to wait, Takemura says it's because Yorinobu was genetically compatible with Saburo. But V didn't need to be genetically compatible with Johnny for the Relic to overwrite his body unlike Yorinobu with Saburo or V with his potential host body, so why is this compatibility aspect of the Relic that was never mentioned before (and will never be mentioned again anywhere else) suddenly introduced in the epilogue?
>>737127751The relic would allow them to make contact with Alt because of her connection with Johnny, which is what you do when you go to see them. Everything actually makes more sense after you play Phantom Liberty because SoMi has exactly the power that the Voodoo Boys are after. She's the only character who can arbitrarily control all kinds of shit like you would imagine a super hacker should be able to. Netrunners basically always need boots on the ground to get the signal in to do their work but SoMi is basically omnipotent. Not to mention, the AIs that exist beyond the blackwall are incredibly powerful and could be used or copied or brokered with, similar to how the AI you uncover is able to heal you & SoMi.
>>737134627Oh, I see your point. The game kind of explains this in two ways:>the version of the Relic in V's head is some early, experimental one>V's circumstances (putting the relic in while living, then getting killed) are totally unique and not the way the Relic was designed to workIt's a little handwavy, I agree.
>>737132943I guess it's because of his connection to Alt and as a fuck you to Johnny from Saburo.
>>737134653SoMi's Blackwall thing is only vaguely explained, but I think that's just her reaching beyond the black wall to let a rogue AI momentarily posses her (or something to that effect) that lets her do crazy hacking shit, kind of like the blackwall AI-infused special weapons/gear you can find in the Cynosure bunker.The VDBs wanted to talk to Alt specifically (as an individual entity, not just 'whichever rogue AI would help us'), which is why they needed Johnny. The VDB goal is to make friends with as many things on the other side of the blackwall as possible so they don't get killed when the blackwall eventually collapses.
>>737128081>has to leave out 20You fucked up and embarrassed yourself. Dont double down on being retarded.
In fairness she paid for her stupidity.
>>737135691It's a shame we never got to witness the moment where all her regrets come crashing home.
>>737135806Agreed. It would have been incredible to see her get raped and brutalized in graphic detail. This bitch was a literal whore by choice and she was used and abused so bad she no choice but to kill herself aftewards. I get hard just thinking about it.
>>737135806The entire Cynosure bunker ending is her begging and pleading for V to kill her. And she was someone at CDPR's waifu, because the game asks you half a dozen times 'You're SURE you don't want to kill her?' if you keep saying 'I'm not killing you.'I always send her back to the glowies because fuck her, fuck them, and I hope the Blackwall breaks.
>>737134897>The VDB goal is to make friends with as many things on the other side of the blackwall as possible so they don't get killed when the blackwall eventually collapses.Roko's Basilisk, except the basilisk already exists?
>>737136809You're confusing Evelyn Parker, who did everything wrong, with So Mi, who did nothing wrong.
>>737133856>Johnny has no problem taking over V's bodyThe "brain-cancer die in 30 days" type of deal not a problem to you?
>>737136832More or less. It's like the Jonkler line from TDK:>I'm not crazy>I'm just ahead of the curveThe Blackwall collapsing is an inevitability. Hell, rogue AIs were already brainwashing (literally) Night City VIPs in the base CP2077 game.>>737136901SoMi is both a victim and a victimizer. She's not innocent, and she lies to everyone in the DLC's story, especially V, and especially about the 'Oh yeah, there's definitely a cure for both of us. Trust me.' Fuck her. And fuck the NUSA.
>>737137259>She's not innocent, and she lies to everyone in the DLC's storyLying as a last ditch attempt at self-preservation is basically the softest and most understandable version of it. Sure, she tricked V, and I guess the game wants me to be mad enough about this to hand her back to the glowies, but frankly I would've done the same and worse in her position.Lying to all the other fucks in the DLC is morally correct.
Speaking of the DLC, Dogtown is tiny, Reed made no efforts to hide, even working a regular job - how the fuck was Alex surprised to see him? They've been stuck there for what, almost a decade? They never ran into each other even once?
>>737137880Actually, and I just found this out the other day, Reed's 'bouncer job' isn't in Dogtown, it's in that dance club where a few of the game's concerts happen over the SW part of the main city area. (You can see him in game, but he's wearing a cap and sunglasses and his title is just 'Bouncer.') Reed isn't living in Dogtown as far as I can tell. And there's also the 'it's a video game' element where Dogtown and Night City aren't exactly to scale; they're pared down versions of how big and sprawling those locations would be in real life.
>>737110992fpbp
>>737132943Don't quote me on this, but johnny is stored as an engram inside mikoshi. The relic is originally created for saburo to transfer consciousness to a new body, perhaps yorinobu's. Yorinobu hates his father, wants to be a rebel, so he downloads Johnny silverhand to the relic, a terrorist that previously fucking nuked Arasaka, I assumed he was going to off himself by slotting it and letting Johnny take him over to fuck over his father's plans.
>>737137604Personally in Cyberpunk I made decisions based on who was loyal to V. Songbird lied to V more than any other character in the game, manipulated him and she never makes good on her promise to save him, in perhaps the most definitive way in an entire game full of people who make promises to help V they don't keep. That's if you ignore the general danger of being killed that Songbird exposed V to with no benefit to himself, solely because her hare-brained scheme went out of control. Reed and Myers on the other hand do make good on their promises, even if the ending is a Mass Effect shoot-the-Starchild "fuck you for asking for this on release, here you go faggot" type of ending. Imagine killing fucking Reed for this dumb bitch.
>>737139292Nah he was going to sell it to Netwatch, same as Evelyn.
>>737110992Based retard
>>737111956>That hacker gang contacted her and offered one gorillion euroburger coins if she managed to steal the relic from her sugar daddyThat's not what happened. The voodoo boys contacted her to make a braindance of the penthouse. That was it. She wasn't hired to do anything else.
>>737139292I think the 'how Johnny's engram got on the Relic' thing was because Netwatch approached Yorinobu and asked for it. Netwatch knew about Alt and wanted to use Johnny to get to her (same as the VDBs), and Yorinobu didn't know shit beyond 'hey, this will piss of my dad (Saburo), so sure'
>>737129193>why do the criminal niggers try to fuck you overGee, I dunno anon. That's a tough one.
>>737110687>game happens because of a series of grossly narcissistic decisions made out of desperationthe game is bad but this is kino
>>737136601you're fucking weird
ngl the idea of having access to a brain dead Evelyn turned me on
>>737137259>The Blackwall collapsing is an inevitability.Why?
>>737136809>And she was someone at CDPR's waifu, because the game asks you half a dozen times 'You're SURE you don't want to kill her?'I didn't know that the mark of waifuism was wanting the player to execute the waifu.
>>737144595Anon Delamain literally just shows up and operates a taxi company
>>737144595It's an old piece of tech humans are trying to keep up to date, but they're fighting a stronger adversary (rogue ais) that keeps evolving all the time. It's a losing battle.>>737144705It's a mercy killing in this case and something Songbird herself asks you to do repeatedly. The writer wanted her to be a tragic character and for V to give her closure by 'doing the right thing' and killing her so Myers/NUSA couldn't abuse her anymore.But I hate Songbird, so I sent that bitch back to the NUSA to be exploited until the rogue AIs finally melt her brain.
>>737110992Not sure if trolling or actually retarded.
>>737111765>decided to copy it but cut the voodoo boys outthey were always gonna flatline her whether she walked away or completed it as intended for operational security. not much of a choice but to go for the hail mary
>>737144595Just look at the damn thing, it's vibrating and shit.
>>737113480This is obviously the correct answer. This is also the answer to all the other games and movies and tv shows where people go "why didn't the bad guys just do so and so..." the TRUE answer is, of course, bad writing. If your audience instinctively think "but why didn't the bad guy just do this and this..?" That means that your story isn't good enough and needs to be rewritten, so it makes more logical sense. Just look at all the hollykike movies where they don't care about these kinds of details, those movies all suck ass and are all terribly illogical and frustrating to watch.
>>737122050Wait so he was a good guy?
>>737119705No one with a functional brain would ever go through a star trek teleporter, since the teleporter obviously murders the original "material" and recreates a clone of it somewhere else. A portal? Sure, i can do portals, they are after all just gatways between places, your physical form isn't altered, it's like going through a door, but disintegrator-tier teleporters? Fuck that shit, the original you is obviously killed and reassembled somewhere else, why the hell would anyone with even half a brain accept this?
>>737110992Based champion of good taste and adult sentiment.
>>737147037>it's a plothole when someone acts less than perfectly optimallyIf that were true, what the fuck are you doing living in a doublewide posting on /v/? shouldn't you be out grinding millions or some shit?
>>737121762Total fucking bullshit, you know i know it everyone knows it.
>im in a horse because my command wants pussy
>>737128081CP for short
>>737147813what is the difference between a teleporter destroying the original material and creating a copy at the endpoint, and your body decaying and creating new cells to replace them?
>>737147037Often this is true (and in this case it is), but equally often people get way too autistic about this sort of shit. Sometimes plot holes are just plot holes, but very often "it just didn't occur to them at the time" is a perfectly valid answer to why a character didn't act 100% optimally. Especially if they were acting under pressure/under strong emotions/were in a hurry etc.
>>737111765>>737146335Pulling out a gun and unloading straight into that voodoo bitches face felt so good, wiped them all out. Picked all basic "good" choices for the other missions so far.
>>737147905Too lazy to write the next citizen kane script
>>737148009Because the latter is gradual enough to have a continuity of consciousness, while the former is implied to kill it and create a completely separate copy.Unless you have a system of values that's basically completely alien to human mind or there are some extraordinary conditions present, why would you even give a shit that a copy of you gets sent somewhere to do stuff if the actual you (i.e. your consciousness) just fucking dies and never gets to do or experience anything ever again?Unless the teleporter would somehow be able to also somehow transplant the old consciousness to the new body so that the original doesn't experience death, in that case I see no issue.
>>737110992>mental illness walking cum dumpsterI know you're baiting but this is an accurate description of her character and it betrays that you actually did play the game.
>>737148009Go chug a co2 tank and close your eyes and see what happens. Fuck your "clobe", what happens to YOU is the ONLY thing that matters. If YOU cease to exist, that's the ultimate crime, fuck everyone else.
why can't they use their amazing technology to get rid of that garbage pile?
>>737148027Oh look, this guy saw that i killed my uber boss yakuza dad, a living god, should i kill him so he can't snitch and ruin my plans? Eehh.. maybe later...
>>737110687GROW HER BANGS OUT MORE! JUST SLIGHTLY MORE! A FEW MILLIMETERS OF HAIR AND SHE WOULD BE 10 TIMES HOTTER! IT DRIVES ME CRAZY WHENEVER I SEE THIS CHARACTER! I HATE MICROBANGS, FUCK!
>>737148474Clone, i mean.
>>737148608What part of "and in this case it is" did you fail to comprehend?
>>737110992@Grok is this true?
>>737148721I got it, i just don't understand it. As in, why anyone would ever agree to this, to begin with.
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>>737148407>continuity of consciousnessdo you ever go to sleep? If so, you're clearly ok with some measure of disruption in that continuity>actual youa conceptual ghost haunting your mind. it simply does not hold up to any measure of scrutiny. If the clone on the other end has an exact copy of everything, it would have your brain. It would have your memories. It would react to stimuli exactly the same as the original would. it is as much the actual you as the original was.>>737148474I cease to exist in the manner you describe every minute of every day as pieces of me are killed, discarded, and replaced. It doesn't seem horrid. And if you mean total oblivion, wouldn't a perfect clone waking up with my exact memories definitionally not be total?
>>737143131Everybody involved in the heist got rekt, but for her it was all caps REKT. Brain fried and turned into a vegetable into snuff film rape for 3 days straight into suicide.And also Johnny calling her a useless cumdumpster and trying to convince you to just beat the information out of her.
>>737149000>If so, you're clearly ok with some measure of disruption in that continuity*some* being the rather important keyword here. It's not total, nor permanent>a conceptual ghost haunting your mind. it simply does not hold up to any measure of scrutiny.It absolutely does, you're the one doing mental gymnastics to pretend otherwise for sake of a stupid far-fetched argument. Of course continuing your current life and consciousness is fucking crucial to any sane human being and nobody would be okay with literally dying and never experiencing anything again just because they know some copy of them will continue to exist. Like I said, any other mindset is simply inhuman. And I don't even mean "worse" or "bad" by this. But that's not humans experience or feel about such things because we're hard-rigged to our current conscious experience
>>737149000Regular cell regeneration isn't the same thing as being insta deleted by a star trek "teleporter".
>>737143131It wasn't out of desperation, at least not for the inciting incident with the Konpeki Plaza heist. V even describes that later as 'pure ambition.' What happens after, at least for V, is only about survival.
>>737138363Wait, damn, really? They pulled another Gaunter O'Dimm? Interesting.
>>737150356I think it's only if you have the DLC, or maybe they added that for everyone in one of the post DLC patches. Point is, if you went over to that club before the DLC got released, I doubt CDPR had Reed standing there, because it's very obviously Idris Elba and there's no way you could get around that.
>>737121529Anon, Arasaka already have the technology to make the relic. V's only use to them is as a witness to get upper Arasaka people to get off their asses and admit Yorunobu is a traitor.
Cyberpunk is a movie game in a good way. Too bad these kind of games take so much time and money to develop.
>>737149385Honestly I don't think anyone in CP2077 is really happy. They're all trying to survive in a fucked up world. Even the corpo rats are just numbing the pain with hedonism.
>>737132048>>737132185thats bad because you fuck up netwatch who are pretty much the ONLY corpo worth a damn.>>737132667yes, because if they fucked up johnny they might get in trouble with alt>>737133093not what that term means
>>737139901This man does not simp for lying whores.
>>737110992Based
