It's been over a month since Toby's last development update, at what stage do you think Chapter 5 of Deltarune is currently at? It's already been in testing for 2 weeks now, how long do you think it will last? The chapter probably has, at most, 8 hours of content, how long could that possibly take to test? There's the translation too, Toby said it would end in April, though he didn't specify exactly when in April, maybe it's already fully done, or maybe it won't be done fully until the end of the month. Beyond the translation and game testing, there also seem to be other various things to take care of before a release. Is a July release possible? Will it take longer than that to release? What do you think?
>>737114771I think I want Susie to sit on my face.
>>737114771Another thing I forgot to mention is that he did say "That'll be all from me on this subject for a while", which implied we would get another update, even if not very soon after this one, but given the current controversy I don't think it's unreasonable to think that he will stay completely quiet until the new Chapter is fully done, upon which he will make another post mentioning that it's done and that it will release at X date.
>>737114771Delayed to 2027 please understand
I dont care about this racist bigot game made by a pedophile and a weeb
>>737114771I dont care about this tranny woke game made by a jew and a chink
why is this game with dogshit pixel art and dialogue that could have been written by a tenth-grade taking more than a few months to complete?
>>737116624The head dev is extremely incompetent.
>>737115832Toby would be killed if this happened.
>>737115850Toby is so fucking based. That's why I still care about his games despite the WAIT.>>737114771>>737115772I think we're getting a release on August or September. A July release is just too optimistic, playtesting seems to take 4-6 months and Toby said last year he only expected a release in the second half of this year. I don't think we're getting any news or even a newsletter until Toby has a release date, which will probably happen last month. The latinx controversy was annoying but I don't think that's stopping Toby as everyone already moved on outside of /v/irgins.>>737115832Not happening, Toby wouldn't say 2026 if it wasn't going to be released in 2026. He isn't that type of guy.
that pirate software guy sitll hasnt put out a single piece of content
That was before the beaners got uppity and Toby decided to donate the entire dev budget to ICE
>>737118901August or September makes sense, though if it does end up taking that long it does not bode well for the release of the last 2 chapters, if Chapter 5, which already had a non-insignificant amount of work done before Chapters 3 and 4 released, so, if it really takes until september to release Chapter 5, I really do not think a release for the last two chapters before 2030 is feasible.
does anyone still have the hash filter that hides the humanfag posts
>>737123187do you want to hide one of the three people that posts here
the cucking of Kris Dreemurr is a multi faceted process please understand. you do love lizards and reindeer right?
>>737123187You can't filter everyone who posts a human image, schizo-kun. But your best bet is unironically to just filter any image with Frisk or Chara if you really don't want to see any humanfags. There's no simple filter for it.>>737123080Chapter 5 only started really being worked on September of 2024 if I remember correctly, and work for 6 should've already started as of know since Toby said the team would move on from 5 after the playtesting started. But yes, 6 and 7 will only release around 2029.>>737124005The doe is cute but I prefer humans. Kris deserves it for being so mean to us.
>>737114771Deltarune sucks lol
>>737124429>schizo-kunDo really consider everyone who doesn't kiss your ass to be the same poster?
>>737124429nta, i'm your actual schizo. it's hard to track me though since I'm not a faggot that sticks out like a sore thumb posting the same shit in every thread like a bot. chances are other people just hate your agp shctick.
>>737124683You can't deny that the schizo exists, so just like you assume everyone who posts human is one, I will assume anyone who bitches about it is one, too.
>>737125054You're very easy to track, you just falseflag and pretend to be multiple people non-stop.
i hate to break it to you, but schizo means that there are people you imagine that aren't there. and you're most certainly here reposting your gook idolatry no matter how loose the relation to the topic is. you're the schizo, and you need to calm down.
>>737125334>i'm the schizo>no, you're the schizoYou're proving my point at you being obvious, just being a schizophrenic falseflagger instead.
>>737124683there are own two posters in these threads. me and my bitch
>>737125881HumanGOD btw.
>>737124005It is written in the prophecy that we will go prison gay for Ralsei.
>>737123680I'd like to filter the one faggot that always posts with the same shitty chink pixiv pics, I swear there was a hash filter, that anon never contributes to the conversation anyways.
>>737127820Anime website, shartyfag. Go back. The April Fool's captcha should've been the standard.
>>737115832>Small update to correct the release date of chapter 5
>>737114771Halloween or KrismasIs always the safest bet
>>737128606That just feels a bit too far in my opinion. I feel like Toby wouldn't be confident it would come out this year if it was going to be released this last. I expect Q3 at best.
https://files.catbox.moe/hwc2t1charafag hash filter, needs updatingrename to text and use it on 4chanx/xt
>>737128992Just the way we love it.
>>737128914Of this year*Is still a sizeable amount of time for him to be lazy or autistic
>>737128992I’d say a troon drew this but there’s no way one would have the balls to use the phrase gook
>>737128992Forgot the no AI training watermark
>>737114771They have probably gone through the first wave of testing by now. Don't know how their process works but I'd expect they only start testing the jap version once the English one is 100% done so it doesn't really matter whether the localization is done now or next month.It took them roughly four months to playtest ch3 and 4 last time, so 5 SHOULD take about two months. I'd say that late June/early July would be reasonable, but this is Toby, you never know with him. He might end up sitting on a fully complete chapter just so he can show it off on a Nintendo Direct or some other dumb shit.
>>737128992Tumblr is just right but also with sans and he’s inexplicably “buff” and tall
>>737129314If only you actually did filter it and didn't bitch about human images everyday.>>737129403Our local anti-human schizo did it but it's unironically funny.
>>737129403I drew that, I'm not a tranny. I am, however, extremely racist.
>>737129575>Our local anti-human schizo did it but it's unironically funny.lmfao your newfaggotry is showing, this is from this thread from last yearhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/714201681/#714222353
>>737129389I feel like if the release date was estimated to be so late, Toby wouldn't be confident for a release this year because of fear of delays. That's what I meant. That's why I think it's Q3
>>737129657I miss when these threads had more than five people
>>737129657You're the newfag, the schizo has been harassing humanbros since back then, even with his catchphrase.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/711687682/#q711688981
>>737129552ah nothing like tumblerinas self insert fixing the guyEveryone loves beauty, simple as>>7371297210 confidence in in the annoying dog please understandu
>>737129981Me too. The June threads were just insane amounts of fun. Hopefully chapter 5 will lighten things up
>>737129403most people prior to the humanfag didn’t really care about frisk outside of the odd friskdyne thread it’s was mostly just charafags and the occasional femkris coomer. That and making fun of franslop adjacent content is funny
>>737129552No, Frisk would be brown and ugly, only old Tumblr drew sexy Frisks. There was a version of that pic that added how western artists draw Frisk.>>737130106I trust the dog still. Maybe I'm just too trusting. Although Tumblr artist also sometimes just draw Sans as canon like pic related.
>>737114771it's probably going to be another june release like 3 & 4
>>737130584This is blatantly wrong, newfag. Most Chara threads always had Frisk coomer images too, and even we had coomer Frisk drawfags as well that became famous later on. I found a bunch of Frisk images here across the years.
>>737130704How we see our hoomans does reflect a lot of us, curiously, your canon route is pacifist frisk, so i think is natural for you to keep your hopes and dreams onWell yeah some do keep it as canon, Sans is a bit harder to make an ikemenSpamtonNeo does fill the need of the tall attractive man with issues
Chara would stick something in your urethra
>>737130941I like my Frisks pacifistic, yeah. I assume you're more of a genocide or neutralfag, my friend. Also it's kind of funny there are people ITT acting as if us humanbros didn't exist beforehand. I'm sure people always lewded Frisk and Chara, can you confirm it as well if you're an oldfag, too?Tenna is maid more of an ikemen than either of them. I'm surprised he was even a hit since Mettaton kind flopped as a sexyman before.
this is just a slower /utg/ thread
>>737130584>>737130827Also, mr.0x0 (whose the art was clearly mocking) isn't a Fransfag so that boogieman isn't going to work.
>>737118193And that's a good thing
>>737129498Chapter 3 was playtested before 4. Those four months were just for. Time for you to WAIT it up.
>>737129981>>737130132They were pretty fun desu. Finding stealth threads was also fun but I don't miss the shitflinging about the Chapter 4 ending scene, the rose, and all the talks about MOM NTR.>>737131419Maybe r/deltarune is more your speed.
>>737129721>Toby wouldn't be confident for a release this year because of fear of delaysTo be fair given Toby's past I really do not think it's unreasonable to think that just because he feels confident on it, it doesn't mean that he isn't wrong and that it won't actually take longer than expected. Nevertheless I do feel it's pretty certain that it will release this year, even if it will still take a surprising amount of time.
>>737132206>MOM NTRNow that the dust has settled we can all agree that Kris deserved it right?
>>737132206Now if there's one legendary moment from last years threads were the doe rape shitposting and the noelle hussie schizophrenia, those were a lot of fun
>>737132301No, Kris didn't deserve it. No, I don't give a shit about the Soul being hit with a hockey stick, or all the other Kris shenanigans. It doesn't justify mom ntr.
>>737131291No shit, she hates humans. If you aren't up to the danger you don't deserve human love.
>>737114771>At what stage do you think Chapter 5 of Deltarune is currently at?Can't tell you how many bugs could possibly be in this single chapter, but they should be 1/3rd done with bug fixes by the end of this month. As for translation, they're probably on their 3rd or 4th draft right now, but I'd say they're one draft away from making the final one so that can be tested next month for bugs.>How long do you think it will last?With the second half of this year being the timeframe for the chapters release, July 1st will be my estimated soft deadline for bug testing to be complete.>How long could [8 hours] possibly take to test?Well, it's more than just 8 hours. They also have to test the game on Switch 1, Switch 2, PS4, and PS5 to find any console-related issues. Plus, due to consoles receiving patches later than PC, they have to do extensive testing to ensure all FIVE versions are in sync and mostly bug-free at launch.>Is a July release possible?Mid-July to mid-August is my most reasonable timeframe for Chapter 5's release. Mid-September (Undertale's 11th Anniversary) is my backup timeframe if that gets missed, and Halloween (Deltarune Chapter 1's 8th Anniversary) is the farthest I can tolerate it before I start getting mad.>Will it take longer than that to release?It's one (1) chapter, so it better fucking not.>What do you think?Toby's done a lot of work leading up to Chapters 3 & 4 to remove future roadblocks and mitigate risks so that the rest of the chapters can come out smoothly (hiring the producer, testing a new Gamemaker feature made specifically for Deltarune, and getting Switch 2 and PS5 ports out of the way). Whether all of that pays off depends on if Chapter 5 gets released in a timely manner. I'm mostly sure that it will come out before September, but who knows what could really happen? I just hope we get an actual newsletter soon, because this radio silence is killing me.
>>737114771This nigga is holding the next Nintendo Direct hostage and I think that's kinda funny.Here's hoping for a release next month. It's just one chapter after all.
>>737132301It's not even NTR. It was just dumb shitposting of people trying to force a fetish. Plus Kris was conspiring with the Knight to kidnap Toriel.
>>737114771why does a 2D Earthbound clone needs "professional testers"? This faggot is so high on his own farts its pathetic.
>>737132436>I just hope we get an actual newsletter soon, because this radio silence is killing me.I am 100% certain there won't be a newsletter soon, I think he's going to wait until, at best, the month before the release to actually drop another newsletter.
>>737132257I can't think of anytime Toby put an actual release date and didn't fulfill it. He does a lot of things like not finishing Hard Mode or doing the Undertale comics but this isn't one of them.
>>737128992No one likes on-model Undertale art and Frisk is the worst looking character. He’s a fat toddler that looks like a racist doodle of an asian.
>>737132515>EarthboundActually it's Mother 3 with furries.
>>737132594>He’s a fat toddler that looks like a racist doodle of an asian.>implying that's not insanely fucking kino
>>737131306we didn't get fags spamming the same few images in deltarune threads, faggot
>>737132594On-model Frisk is also cute. She's the cutest no matter what. You're right people love off-model art though, even Toby himself.
>>737132579I meant more so that he certainly didn't expect that it would take this long to make the game, so in that regard his expectations did not match reality.
>>737132741People always did that, though. People always post the same pictures of Susie, Noelle or Spamton. Even humanbros always posted a lot of lewd pictures, too. You need to cope harder.
>>737130827i'll admit i understated the amount of friskfags in "the good ol days" but i'm not going to mince words when i say most of humanbros shit here is brand new. as insufferable as that one schizo is he's not wrong he says that you and your one fuck buddy have pretty distinct posting styles. i've been condemed to these damned threads long enough to know that you did not become noticeable up until these threads became daily (you and the other guy were around for the anniversary stream but there were enough different humanfags that it wasn't to bad)
>>737114771You know, one thing that I think is important in to keep in mind when it comes to the playtesting phase is that it's not only bugs that they are looking for, but also game balance, it might be that there are some things that playtesters find too easy or too hard and the team might decide to rebalance it, which can take some time to get right, this is why the playtesting period might last longer than you'd think.
>>737132359Doerape was pretty funny but Hussie Noelle was pretty legendary even if it died quickly.
>>737132515>frognigger>is an absolute retardEVERYSINGLE TIMEDeltarune's scope is pretty big with the amount of new ganeplay mechanics, new enemies, and overall new content it introudces with each chapters, so of course it needs professional testers, especially when it's made by a group of experienced developers and the game costs 25 bucks
>>737132964You're pretty noticeable yourself, tsundere Charabro. It seems like most of your problems is with the fact that we still have daily threads and people are leaving, and not with humanbros. Especially since I'm pretty sure we were around before then. I ain't the one making threads so you can't blame for that. This is just how we pass the wait. You could join us as well, I feel like it's a better use of your time than whine about thread quality but never leaving. You gotta enjoy the ride.
>>737132741Literally the only difference between the humanfag and all the other spammers is that the humanfag acts mildly smug and obnoxious and even then you don’t have a leg to stand on with how much of a bitch you are
>>737131941They only started doing console ports and testing once both chapters got a complete translation and were fully tested on PC(eng version). The PC version of 3 was tested beforehand but the four months were ch4 PC version+console ports+jap versions
>>737132436I don't expect a newsletter until the game is ready, which I only expect around May or June. Toby did remove a lot of roadblocks but he also said Game Maker is getting new features so I don't expect future chapters to come quickly.
holy shit you fags sound like a gaggle of bickering troons. even goatfaggots aren’t this insufferable.
>>737132834I feel like after everything Toby probably has realistic expectations for how long a chapter takes. I don't see him underestimating how long 5 will take to finish.>>737133435I doubt testing on PC for 4 added that much time, so I don't expect testing to take too long.
>>737132515He treats every chapter release like it's a brand new 20hour game. Game needs to be approved on consoles? Have to do various other things for release?Nigger, the fucking thing is officially on the store already. Just push the update.
>>737133616You weren't on /utg/ during the big WAIT. Goatfags and their drama was much worse than this could ever be and goatfaga have actual real avatarfags and thread personalities there, not this pretend bullshit.
Kris if Toby didn't care about making her appear gender neutral.
>>737133616no one here as done ERP, turned these threads into a personal blog, or become a full blown namefag (yet). so no we haven't reached goatfag levels of schizophrenia currently believe me these threads can get MUCH WORSE
>>737134067That's an actual very good FemKris, where's this from? Some manga?
>>737134263Yep, saw her on twitter and she reminded me of Kris.
>>737132515Because Toby doesn't want to release the game as an unbalanced, glitched mess. It's that simple.>>737133816Most nippon players only use console so he needs to release it there for them. PC is niche.
>>737134079I think everyone who whines about humanbros or anyone else needs to go there for a thread to see what real avatarfags are like.
>>737134382That really does look like Kris, damn. I guess FemKris can work. It's always nice to see characters that look like the humans. I usually see a lot of characters that end up looking like Frisk but never that many people that look like Chara, funnily enough.
>>737134431I was referring to him dragging his nuts once the chapter is 100% ready to be shipped just to have some grandiose release event or to showcase it on nintendirt direct like he's about to drop Undertale 2. It's a 3-4h story update, drop the theatrics and release the thing.
>>737133616/utg/ is schizophrenic these threads are just boring. you just have 3 guys jerking each other off while a schizo has an aneurism in the background at least the beaner drama was something different. really why the fuck are these threads daily in the first place.
>>737131306Yeah i like geno, remorseless even, no bringing the world backWhile i understand your view that frisk is ok with monsters as a shonen protagonist, i'm not really fond of monsters being like that, and since frisk and chara are ok with it too, i go with that routeHoomanfrens have always kinda been everywhere, we never actually leave, it was just some years ago someone kinda pointed out and people felt more comfortable posting, since after all the focus was on the goats and skeletons.Everyone got way too overshadowed by Sans only when people kinda noticed he is not actually cool people bothered at looking at the others
>>737132442I doubt Toby has the power to keep a direct hostage like that. Plus 5 is a free update so I doubt he will reveal the release in a direct.
this shit and everyone talking about it would be laughed off the old /v/. what happened
>>737134382huh i always thought mysterious girlfriend x was kinda a more modern thingwhile kinda the art is very 80s early 90stoo bad Kris is tobby's self insert for whatever he is telling in deltarune
>>737136423“old /v/“ had regular threads talking about undertale what are you talking about
>>737136357Damn, you're definitely more edgy than me. I don't mind genocide and I have done it several times but I definitely prefer the good boy route where Frisk lives with the monsters and Chara is saved. Toby did say Undertale's world is left as it is in the FAQ, so both our choices are canon in our worlds.Yeah, us humanfrens have been here since release. It's just the tsundere Charabro said Friskfags didn't exist, but he conceded on that so there's no point in arguing about it. Sansfags were always dominant outside of this website and goatfags were extremely dominant here. Humanbros have always been second fiddle to them. Plus even though I love Frisk I have to concede she lives in Chara's shadow, you don't see Friskfags that aren't Charafags like the contrary. It's probably because Frisk doesn't have a scene like Chara has the end of genocide.Sans was a black hole in the earlier fandom, everything revolved around him to the point people overcorrected a bit and don't even want to see him have an important role in Deltarune.
>>737135889I don't know. I'm the one making threads at all. If there's a thread up I will discuss in it earnestly, no reason not to. Meta posts don't help much.
>>737133830>>737134079I’m surprised our local schizo hasn’t falsefag as a humanfag to make them look worse. then again he also somehow managed to get baited into being called a redditor so I don’t think he has the brain power to “pretend” to be retarded
>>737135020He only did that for 3 and 4 because it was the paid release so he needed to actually market the game to make money of it. 2 was announced in a stream so I expect 5 won't have a grand announcement.
>>737137051He actually posted human pics while pretending to be a tranny in December while samefagging, but it was so obviously a falseflag that it didn't stick.
>>737136861jesus
It's funny that any of you think Toby cares about anything other than shutting down every YouTube channel that DARES to remix or cover his perfect music.
>>737114771Testing will probably be done by May 11th or so. Toby will give a status update on testing with a funny anecdote this weeked. Unfortunately, Toby, liking money a lot, will delay the game by two months for the "Marketing cycle", wasting everyone's fucking time while he dripfeeds screenshots and dumb memes yet again to satiate his ego until he has a Nintendo Direct to put the release date in for his ego
>>737136423/v/ had Undertale threads since the demo. You lost.
>>737134914I swear i've seen characters in the past that reminded me of Chara, but i can't name any of them for some reason.>>737136853I'm inserting my self into Kris too.
>>737136897yeah Chara is still more popular as one needs to pay attention to notice all the silent actions Frisk does that builds her personality, also the early image of the, "uwu please don't fight", image people made was not appealing for many, though chara's fandom personality that was just Kris was also shit.But alas, truth always reveals itself, and now frisk is more on the cool but friendly side instead of the expendable martyr and chara on her stepford smiler character instead of being an awkward edgelord.I was a charafag so long ago, but as i too noticed how frisk actually was so i evolved into a hoomanfren, since frisk is just so cool and probably one of the badasses MCs out there, i'm lucky my faves come in a single package most of the time and get along even!.Thanks for reading my blog~On the side note sans is a funny thing, ch4 settled him on everyone's bad side however i think tobby will excuse that in reality he was protecting toriel from kris/the knight redeeming the whole sceneThough people love to flanderize, and sans will be a hero again, Sans has always been a jerk despite his motivations.
>>737137292that's not toby, that's materia
>>737137704Do not the annoying dog?He would probably like it tho
>>737129403troons use /pol/ lexicon to falseflag all the time
>>737137704There's a lot of anime characters that wield knives and have psycho smiles, but a lot of them don't have Chara's red cheeks. Unlike with Frisk or even Kris who are more simple archetypes.>>737137763I said this before but I genuinely think enjoying Frisk is a sign that you actually care about Undertale. You need to actually pay attention to what happens in the game to enjoy Frisk and a lot of people fail at this task sadly enough. Ironically enough I always loved Frisk, it was Chara I was mixed on, going from misunderstood saint, to pure evil and now the more morally gray take. But I thought in the past that she was overrated, nowadays I can appreciate both equally. Yeah, it's nice to have favorites that come in a pair, and fanon Frisk and Chara really were boring desu.Toby likes Sans and most of Deltarune's main teasing in Undertale involves Sans so he will be irrelevant. The idea he just exists to fuck your mom is naive, that's not how Toby writes Sans, there's always a hidden motive behind his sillier actions.
>>737133046You need to remember Toby said in a newsletter that playtesters found a fight in Chapter 3 as too hard (which know we know is the Knight) and Toby ignored them. Even though their job is to find bugs and test the game Toby sometimes will just ignore them.
>>737129657both the humanbro and his schizo only showed up a year ago. you’re both mouth breathers
>>737137339Toby already got all the money from the release as 5 will be a free update. He will announce it a week before release like he did with Chapter 2.
>>737137185you think jesus exists in deltarune
>>737136423/v/ is not /b/
>>737139486Christmas exist so he has to unironically.
dry thread. anyways for something new to talk about what are some UT/DR characters you find underrated or wish were talked more about?
>>737138584Indeed, i suppose is after all due to how both played the game initially, getting pass trough the fandom interpretation at the time for a character one didn't focused at first is not as simple as it should be.Maybe a bit, he already involved sans in a very important scene, while i don't think we will have a rematch with him, he will surely have more screen time
>>737140153Kris's classmates falling as background NPCs felt like a loss, while complicated i would had loved to keep the dynamic to keep changing playable characters
>>737140291A lot of the appeal of these games is making our own fanfic/interpretation after passing through all of the common ones. I guess that's why Toby supports so much you creating your own story. You need to be forged by the fires of fanon to be a real fan.Yeah despite everything being part of an end of a chapter makes him important. All Undertale characters are weirdly still relevant in Deltarune while Kris's classmates are left in the dark of irrelevance.
I refuse to believe there are more than 5 posters here
>>737141017Three at best with two chiming in from time to time
>>737141017We used to have a way to tell how many posters we had, a long long time ago.....
>>737141017I haven't posted in a while, threads kept getting deleted and Toby vs. LATAM was getting boring.Anyways, Toriel is pulling an OMORI and is protecting Kris from the grave sin they commited.
>>737140153Probably any of the main NPCs. Grillby for example was really popular but now nobody cares about him. Maybe Deltarune Monster Kid, nobody cares about him compared to his Undertale version. Elnina and Lanino are completely underrated, too.
>>737141017There's only one, *me. Everyone else is a part of *me.
>>737141551Could explain the why the Toriel variable hides the deer. But I feel like Carol is the one who is doing that though.
>>737141551this would cement toriel as THE giga bitch for knowing what happened with Asgore but prioritizing kris anywayand why tenna was shitting himself at the thought of toriel waking up, or the knight using their slow ass beam instead of scooping her up (doesnt want to wake her up)
>>737141017why?>>737141551Haven't played omori, TLDR?
>>737142489Sounds more like she would be to Deltarune what Asgore was in Undertale. Doing something truly awful with truly good intentions.UT Asgore promised human omnicide to give his people hope, DR Toriel is (unwittingly)(?) abetting the end of two worlds in the hopes that it allows her child to be happy.
>>737142725play omori, this kinda spoils the whole gamethe protag accidentally killed his sister and his friend helps him cover it up as a suicide, the mom is implied to know but covers for him while his dad just disowns him and leaves
>>737141595>Grillbypart of his popularity was sans and being a semi attractive faceless male on a suitDeltarune kinda substitutes everything that made him popular>mkbesides being a schoolmate in the surface... he was never that popular no?>elnina and laninoIf tobby had gone straight with their arc, instead of refusing to have a regular couple with sane a relationship, they would had stood out more
>>737129995>catchphrase
>>737142878Yeah, I could see it. So far Toby's spiel about making her "flawed" in the 10th anni seems like bullshit, so having her do an Asgore-level action would sell me on her.
>>737141017Everyone left over the WAIT give it sometime for Ch5 to come out and all the normals will come crawling back
>>737142903I tried but i got kinda bored, even more knowing what most of the premise was thanks to internet osmosisaaah toriel knowing does work too on this whole mess i agree with >>737142489 if tobby goes that route, will he? i'm not sure though, he must know people LOVE toriel
I forgot. What's the consensus behind what happened to Dess and why?I was wondering about the shoes and hearts in her closet. The Holidays have hooves, they don't wear shoes. Neither do the Dreemurrs. So perhaps she wanted to become human while Kris wanted to be a monster. Maybe they tried switching souls or something similar, but it went wrong. Their souls got fused and became the knight, Dess' consciousness was lost in the code while Kris was left soulless.
>>737143303We don't know for sure, we're still WAITing for the truth.
>>737142974Yep, you already said it's your catchphrase before. https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/729600212/#729647449https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/729600212/#729647636
>>737143303No one knows>Knight is dess corpse somehow>Dess is uber dead and wont even appear in the game>>Noelle killed her>>Kris killed her>>>Both killed her in a failed "prank" from kris>Dess is in the code (compatible with other theories)>Dess is semi alive on the bunker/lake/with gasterSubscribe to one
>>737137972Toby would totally be into it, yeah. He's a certified freak.>>737140408I agree. I thought Berdly was going to be the standard but he ended up being the exception. At this point Catti and Jockington will just be gag characters. I still trust the dog but it is disappointing.
>>737142489>and why tenna was shitting himself at the thought of toriel waking up, or the knight using their slow ass beam instead of scooping her up Notably Tenna was worried about Toriel's own safety if she woke up. This is a crack theory but I'll throw it out:Boss monster souls persist for a little while after a monster's death. We've never seen a Darkner in the vicinity of a Boss Monster before. It's possible that like how fountain proximity makes Darkners go crazy, Boss Monster proximity also makes Darkners go crazy. And they try to kill the Boss Monster and take their soul to get to the Light World.The less insane option is just that Boss Monsters are extremely powerful in the Dark World, and Toriel, having never been in a Dark World, might risk destroying her house and killing Kris and Susie on accident
>>737137765You're so innocent.
>>737138884you're not fooling anyone, schizo
>>737143447not your boogieman, but yeah seems like he's a retard
>>737143776Alex Yard, go to bed
>>737142971Monster Kid was decently popular in Undertale and he even shows up in the main screen while nobody cares about Deltarune Kid. Fair on Grillby but it's wild how his popularity dropped like a rock where nobody even asks where he is in Deltarune. Yeah, Roulxs completely overtook them because of the throuple stuff. A shame but it was very funny.
>>737137765Toby supports what they do, though. He defended Sebastian's decisions before. They're not doing this because he hates it.
>>737143015Toriel is already flawed because of the end of Chapter 4. I don't think he will make her do an Asgore tier mistake. Susie already got her perfect view of Toriel shattered, that's probably enough for Toby.
>>737143094Even after 5 comes out we're still WAITing for 3 years at least. But yeah, 5 will bring an influx of new people to the point all of us will only be a bad memory. We just have to keep WAITing.
>>737140153Pretty much any darkner other than the obvious standout ones.The four playable characters and Dess/Knight hog up the attention in a way not even the main cast of UT did, it gets old.
>>737141551>>737142489This is entirely within character for Toriel to do, it's just a matter if Toby would do it or not. In Undertale, she doesn't give a shit about pretty much every monster until the end of true pacifist, yet loves you after 3 minutes. It takes one shotting her on Genocide for her to finally condemn you.
>>737144468To Delta Rune is to WAIT
>>737144520The main problem is that we don't know if she even knows about the Dark World. Plus Kris would be an asshole in planning for her kidnapping while she covered his ass.
>>737145002There is still the possibility Kris is or was planing on sacrificing Susie at the end of the prophecyKris despite whatever is his intent, for now he is an ass
>>737143779Only the schizo would accuse someone of being him!
>4chan is down but the thread works if you have the tab open...well how off
>>737143303We don't know yet. The popular fandom consensus is that FRIEND led her and Kris to the shelter with his evil tail that he totally has and Dess got lost in the shelter and somehow became the Knight while Kris got super traumatized. But we don't actually know what really happened outside of the shelter being involved.
>>7371452364chan is down? Really? It's working on my end.
>>737145424uh... it's backthe site must be busy managing the pragmata release
>>737143701I think it's the latter. Toriel would be too strong if she were awake so when the Knight went to kidnap her, things would get ugly between the two and Tenna didn't want that.
I wonder what kind of dogshit they're adding to the site that's making the site go down or not work properly so much.
I HATE WAITING GIB CHAPTER 5 NOW
>>737144497Are you forgetting how early Undertale was literally the Sans show? He hugged all the screen time and fancontent to the point Gaster had more fan content than Alphys.
AAAAAAAA I'M TIRED OF WAITING I JUST WANNA GO TO MY RAPE DATE ALREADYfestival is ch6 cliffhanger btw
>>737146048>He hugged all the screen timeonly if you want him togoing on both of sans's dates nor talking to him is required, he only steals the show at the end of genocide but undyne gets a cooler moment
>>737145065To be fair maybe he only wanted Susie to die before he became friends with her. Maybe he regrets it now.
>>737146163Personally i'm worried it will be shit
>>737114771maybe he quit gamedev because he was sick of being harrassed online by supposed "fans"
>>737146316He seems extremely troubledbut "he promised"The plot demands drama
>>737145514Kek. I guess loli still breaks 4chan and everyone's mind to this day. All's well that ends well, though.
>>737146048Of course I remember the Sans fixation, but even characters like Napstablook or Muffet got live if you knew were to look.No single character hogs up attention like Sans in DR, but those 5 together definitely get more attention than he ever got.
>>737146352a canceled deltarune would still be good news, the death of the project is better than limbo
>>737146169In game, yeah. Sans doesn't hog all the spotlight. In fanon, though? I can't agree, he overshadowed everyone. >>737146478I think it's just because they're the main characters. Even fan content had Frisk in it because she was the protagonist, so in Deltarune's case every fan content has the fun gang instead. I think it's because Deltarune isn't finished so people are more focused on the main characters and antagonist compared to side characters.
>>737146352Given the shit he dealt with in undertale I doubt it.
>>737146352Nippon doesn't care so he doesn't care.
>>737146907Look, I don't think there is anything wrong in having a focal central cast, I'm just pissed at how the game started with an ensemble cast for the first two chapters, following the UT structure, then hard shifted into focusing on the small main cast by chapter 4, which I never really liked, and most of the fandom followed that shift.
>>737144497Clover's design just makes me think it should have the most vile scat porn available. I haven't looked, I don't want to see it, but it just seems like a multiheaded autism cat would be like that
the problem with deltarune is that it entirely relies on you liking susiein undertale, if you didnt like sans or papyrus or alphys etc. you didnt have to endure it for long, and had the choice of just not interacting with them more than you had to
>>737147726I think it's just because Deltarune is a longer game and has an actual main cast unlike Undertale. Frisk was mostly just our stand in and window to the world iwhile Susie and Ralsei are actual characters so Toby needs to focus and delevop them during this long journey.
>>737148241my problem with susie is that im supposed to support Suselle and hate sans/catti because she does
What is your plan if chapter 5 sucks? Personally I plan to die from complications in surgery when they remove my burst appendix.
Chapter 4 did wonders for him but Ralsei is no longer interesting as a character for me anymore.
>>737148476I don't see it, Suselle just won't work Noelle's going too hard and Susie is too grounded. There's going to be conflict and Noelle hasn't demonstrating having good conflict resolution skills nor is she ready to handle the fact that Susie has another interest already.
>>737148526i fought for weeks on the side of spics despite loving deltarune, because toby didnt release a newsletteri wonder what i would do if chapter 5 ended up being BAD...
I'm not allowed to admit this anywhere else on the internet, but I also do not like or care about Ralsei or Susie. I just want the whole game to be about Noelle and Kris and Me and Gaster and Dess.
>>737148241That's because Susie is a main character so she has to show up everytime, Undertale only had Frisk who was a silent protagonist so you didn't really see her thoughts on other characters or anything, really, you had that loneliness feel that Deltarune lacks.>>737148580I actually like him now that there's more to him than just being a usual fluffy femboy.
>>737148715>Noelle and KrisObjectively correct>Gaster and DessOh you are one of those sans fans.
>>737148526I would be disappointed but move on. I think part of me is prepared for Deltarune to not live up to my expectations after 3 and 4.
>>737148526>suselle confirmed>asgore does practically NOTHING>no festival>blue soul fight is completely unrelated to the skeletons>roaring knight identity still unrevealed with evidence for all sides>twitter loves all of the above and pretends its a good thingWhat would happen to the threads...?
What would you rather happen. Chapter 5 is really bad so you can tap out now. OR. You still enjoy chapters 5 and even 6 but it's SEVEN that turns out really bad.
>>737114771This fag's games look like the pre-beta for Earthbound and he can't fucking finish them? kek
>>737148893Toby would be eaten alive on the national news. People will think one of the rage virus type zombie movies became real for at least two weeks.
>>737148526>What is your plan if chapter 5 sucks?Sucking for me? Feel bitter the same way I have done for the past 10 months.Sucking for a huge portion of people? Shitpost and laugh about it.
>>737148526Keep on enjoying the fanfiction because AU fags occasionally light up the good shit every once and a while.It's not like I'm getting my 6 hour long unskippable Ralsei and Susie sex scene in game anyways.
>>737148893>What would happen to the threads...?You will be called an asgorefag for having expected all that ominous build up to be anything.
>>737149149>asgorefags joining the mikefagsPlease god let this happen
>>737146426Kris still feels he has to kill her because his holiday groomers told him to, but now he's conflicted because he likes Susie. I still don't see Kris sacrificing Toriel if she covered for him.
>>737148526You know the otter meme?This will be me until the very end, but for normal routueBecause weird route so far delivered, i would be in awe if somehow he fucks it up
>>737149202I'm an Asgorefag myself and I'd be relieved if he doesn't do much, that's the only way the small remainder of his dignity could be preserved.
>>737149261He's gonna fuck it up. Right when it gets good about halfway into chapter five you are gonna hard cut to a game over screen and won't be able to play the rest of 5 or 6 and 7 unless you go back to the real route.
>>737148476The best way to predict Deltarune is by seeing who Susie likes and who she dislikes and knowing that means that character is an antagonist or a hero because she's Toby's waifu.
Getting myself real mad about hypothetical ways Toby could fuck it up. Getting heated. Pre heated even.
>>737149261>weird route so far delivered/v/ fags only forgave the current weird route because of doe rape being made canon, the lack of real gameplay changes sucked ass and it will suck even harder if it happens again.
>>7371489247, so that if the 15-year+ project that is Undertale and Deltarune (or TURD), it will end on a sour note and everyone in the fandom would get booty blasted
>>737149495I got mad about hypotheticals since 2021 and somehow tobert did worse than I expected
>>737148715I want Gaster and Dess to have more focus but I still like Susie and Ralsei and I'm mixed at Noelle being a main character, she's perfect as the occasional side character.
>>737149689I do nothing but think about Kris and Noelle rekindled childhood friend romance all day.
>>737148893>suselle happensHMOFAfags take over the thread together with culture warriors that call it a tranny game. Endless NTR and revenge porn spam. The rest doesn't matter but it will ensure the quick death of these threads.
>>737149261I have the feeling the weird route won't be that much different from the normal route outside of Suselle being skipped.
>>737148924I would rather 5 being bad. 7 is the end and thus what will shape future discussion. It being bad would ruin all the game unlike just 5 being bad.
>>737149495>>737149598I stopped having expectations for Deltarune, that's what you need to do to enjoy the game. Just make fanfiction if you didn’t like it.
>>737118901>based Yeah right. You can like him all you want, but he's still a faggot
>>737148893>>737148526if hussification does indeed happen, these threads will simply end up the same way that hsg did. people will continue to ship whatever the fuck they want, everyone hates toby and is always complaining about how everything went to shit, and the thread is slower and a shell of its former self.
>>737151091>lolicon>weebHe's based.
>>737148241Susie is fineeee, she is a fun character, i think the main problem is that she is hogging all the protagonism and development too much, and i think that's the meta message Toby is going for, which honestly kinda sucks, she is the one getting the most development of all Toby's characters, not only with Noelle but Ralsei Tenna Toriel etc>>737149406>>737149514Doe rape does elevate the route, but i like the subtle changes like how Susie feels out and Noelle paying more attention to you, as for gameplay, if he doesn't introduce the Undyne Undying of DR already then yeah i agreeHonestly until i see what happens in ch5 wr i will keep my hopes up
>>737146163whatever toby's cooking up I hope it's better than what I've got going on in my head. I don't know how Noelle's gonna act during the festival and I don't want to think about it but I want some fun player and Noelle shenanigans to go on. but at the same time I really want the normal route to captivate me more.
>>737145967You just have to keep WAITing.>>737146163I'm hyped for the doerape festival date. Hopefully it's as kino as the childhood's end fangame but I mostly expect it to be about the Ferris Wheel.>>737151237So far Toby has broken everyone's expectations so I expect something very, very unique that no fan thought up so far just like nobody thought about Mantle or the doerape.
>>737114771The japanese translation for Undertale is really good. You can really see the benefit of having the creator work directly on the translation. If translations into other languages besides japanese ever happen, I hope they get the same treatment.
Why are people expecting Toby to fail? He hasn't yet.
>>737152229>He hasn't yet95% of chapter 3 shaped elephant enters the room:
>>737149819I like Kriselle as much as the next guy but Noelle not being in every Dark World makes their alone times more meaningful when they happen
>>737152229We all hated 3 and 4 here.
>>737114771>testingIts a 3 hours long chapter, how many people and time do you need to "test" it
>>737152229It's mainly doomers that are afraid of having their expectations shattered. The WAIT has become so severe that mostly the boomers remained.
>>737153097We got homestuck ptsd.
The thing with deltarune is that while unfinished it mostly looks like a decently well house. Until you notice the Suselle shaped hole cut into a major support beam.
Why does he choose to deny us chapters. I want new chapters.
>>737148954Graphics don't matter when we have IMAGINATION.
>>737151227Susie is basically the shonen MC of the game down to having a training arc with the wise old men. That and she's literally his waifu. You need to accept Deltarune is Susie's game.
>>737153946It's crazymaking because like, everything else is so good. But Toby's Mary Sue waifu is this cancer black hole that ruins everything she gets near.
>>737154110I wouldn't say she ruins everything but the game is definitely biased towards her. I can't think of a person Susie thinks is bad but isn't one.
>>737127578Idk man. I actually might Ralsei even if I weren't prison gay. I'm a sucker for fluff.
>>737114771Well chapter 5 is small on the sweepstake page so i guess this means that chapter 5 will be a story focused on one since it has less content compared to chapter 3
CHAPTER 5: DECEMBER 30TH 2026CHAPTER 6: 2029CHAPTER 7: 2031THANK FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER.
>>737154328This is about the weird route. 2 had all the freezing with Noelle, 3 had the Sword Route and 4 has the doerape. So 5 probably only has the festival doedate.
Toby dies from wrist related complications before he finishes chapter 7 and he has all his leftover notes and employees buried with him to protect his artistic vision.
It makes me unreasonable mad when I see someone on tumblr call Ralsei a she.
this would be way more of a pleasant experience if he just finished the game on one go
>>737152229he already failed when he used the explosion gag a hundred times in 2021
>>737154564While the number is smaller then 2 or 3 I think it's worth noting it's still larger then 4.2's weird route and 3's sword route last basically the entire runtime, while chapter 4's weird route runs through the first 30 minutes with some new dialogue sprinkled throughout.I think for Chapter 5 we're going to have the full festival segment, and then some of the dark world. Not enough time in the dark world with Noelle to brainfreeze another lightner or kill the boss darkner, but enough to use snowgrave on some minor darkners and finally get proper "kills" so to speak. And we'll get to see what happens to dusted darkners in the light world.
>>737154838It's funny how calling Kris a he is such a huge irredeemable sin but calling Ralsei a girl is just fine and dandy.
>>737128263American website, grafsperg, won't like, leave it dawg, and don't pretend if your president wasn't made a decent internet connection, and next time the captcha will be a credit card/bank account security code confirmation.
for the chapter 5 weird route, considering the small number, toby will either>do the same thing again and have it all be light world cutscenes early on, while somehow no one knows what is going on and the actual gameplay is just awkwardly normal most of the time>leave the snowgraving for last, which probably hints that they will go right for the dark world shit and leave the festival as the closing of the chapter
>>737156113I hope the festival isn't a daytime thing and ends up being like a Halloween deal at night because it'd be cooler and more romantic
>>737156332The game has been very confused about what the festival is.>romantic valentines encounter>halloween (jack)>harvest/thanksgiving (flowers)>carnival rides>christmas decoration
>>737154110if Toby has any guts when the player gets their vessel back he'll let us box it out with Susie for the status as the main character
>>737155132It hurts thinking about how the entire game probably could have been done by now if he had bit the bullet and actually committed to switching engines and the time it'd take instead of trying to make it in fucking gamemaker, and had he gotten over his perfectionism regarding stuff like the pacing in chapter 3
>>737156505There could be a timeline we got chapter 7 by now if he just didn't fuck around so hard.
>>737129389>that picI always forget how incredibly mid the common takes are, and how few people truly understand how batshit the plot is going to get. I think the amount of people who realize that everyman is a major character is in the single digits.
>>737156794I think his main issue is a lack of foresight>Thinks switching engines would be too hard, ends up costing a massive amount of time later due to gamemaker needing patches just for deltarune because it sucks>can't take the heat of impatient fans, so starts releasing chapters as he goes creating more work to prepare every chapter for release>suffers from ADD and hires a bunch of people with ADHD, fails to get a producer to give them deadlines until late into chapter 3etcetera
>>737148526Wait for chapter 6And if that sucks wait for chapter 7And if that sucks find something else to obsess over
>>737152229I wouldn't say he failed because Deltarune as is seems to be popular enough to sustain Toby and more, but it is significantly less popular than Undertale was.
>>737157560>but it is significantly less popular than Undertale was.If his fever dream ending was actually good I think the full game releasing will probably give it a chance to catch up
>>737157627Any chapter release can do that if it gets viral enough, generally speaking a few main things killed the momentum>The fandom scaring away most normal people from trying out the game>The WAIT >The types of games that people like shifted over the last 10 years
it will drop in summer
>>737158182*southern hemisphere summer
>>737158374jesus christ, don't me let the hopes upimagine deltarune releasing in late december
>>737158989it technically doesn't break the promise
>>737157560I don't think it's a failure to disengage from a fanbase you didn't gather intentionally.
>>737157039We'll see what is that about once the veil is uncoveredFor now we're just getting teased
>>737156430If I had to guess it'll be something that lasts all day and night with different events and stuffHopefully we get to experience the entire thing in Chapter 5 and the chapter won't just end basically right after the dark world like 3 and 4
>>737157808Honestly while the fandom is full of crazy people arguing about if ralsei is trans and deranged coomers that want to fuck emails I'd rather talk to any of those people then those in "normal" game fanbases
the festival will be the mike room of shipping
Dess groomed Kris.
>>737127578Ralsei is like Gerson, dead
>>737162214he liked it
>>7371543283 being as big as 2 just because it has a pseudo tutorial for the weird route (which 99% of players who wanted to do it would've already started 4 years prior) was retarded
>>737127578Nuh uh. Ralsei belongs to Susie.
>>737163903Susie will watch from the Fujo Throne
>>737157039>spoilerqrd?
>>737114771He realised that as soon as Deltarune is finished and out, his career is over, and once his career is over, he'll have no reason to hang out with famous japanese devs. So he's taking his sweet ass time pretending to make everything perfect when really he's just been winging it this entire time.
>>737114771>OBSESSED OVER GARBAGEJust kill yourselves. Stop sucking Toby's dick. You'll feel better.
>>737149261I just hope he doesn't end up reusing the rest of Peepee.exe
>>737159603extremely hard to explain, but it involves>angel association with white feathers>winglade enemy being a white feather>winglade contains references to both angels/satan and jevil>forgotten man gives us eggs, which are kept on berdly's desk>spamton gives out pipis, and has bird characteristics like mentions of nest-making, and quotes berdly a few times>rare everyman reference from outside of the game is a reference to spamton
>>737162214This should be edited again so it's Fem Kress instead of shirt /ss/ Kress.
>>737166492Anon, oneeloli is nowhere near as popular as /ss/.
>>737139486>>737140113This is going to sound very autistic, and it's probably not Toby's intention, but referencing real life religions in a world filled with anthromorphic animals would result in strange implications Like, do humans and anthros follow for the same rules and all that? Were monsters introduced to Christmas similar to how white people did to Native Americans?I feel like there is a good reason why referencing real life cultural stuff in furry works isn't so common, because it makes you ask you questions like theseSorry if my post sounds so absurd. I just had to get it out of my system
>>737167076Literally just don't think too hard about it, it's not like Toby did.
>>737158182I would fucking hope so. Jesus, how can it take 3+ months to playtest like 4 hours of content. The game is not that complex, it's basically on rails.
>>737166632Unfortunately, but the original image was onee-loli so the editor changed the image for no reason other than self-insert shit.
>>737171410>the editor changed the image for no reason other than self-insert shit.BASED
what if dess was green
>>737172234GOT TO BE GREENTHIS WORLD IS SO MEAN
I'm really curious what the knights motivations are for making dark fountains because I can't think of any good explanation for their actions that make sense.
>>737172425something something prophecy bullshit
>>737172465we don't even know what the actual prophecy is though, or at least not all of it
>>737172425>implying toby can't pull new dark fountain powers out of his ass
>>737172532>toby waits until just before the final boss to give us a loredump to explain characters motivations, just like in undertale
>>737173051Very high chance of this happening actually.
>>737156056Don't know what you're schizophrenia is all about but this is a confirmed anime website and if we still had the April Fool's captcha you wouldn't even be able to post.>>737171410Us lolibros always get persecuted by self-insertfags, especially in this society and fandom. You should post the original one, anon.
>>737172234An interesting question, but why did you post a picture of Asriel?
>>737114771Probably 2 - 4 weeks more. These things take time. You find one bug, you gotta send it, fix the bug, retest again... I think it's fucking fantastic, modern testing is releasing early and saying fuck you, then updating. Also, longer it takes, the closer we are to chapters 6 - 7.
>>737173648>Probably 2 - 4 weeks more.You can't be serious, do you really expect playtesting to be fully done in just 4 weeks?
>>737173342The original image is not Deltarune related so I'm not sure if I should post it.
>>737118901Latino here, don't care about literal twitter trannies seething about the spanish translation or who would do it as I already know english. I appreciate the leftist/progressive antisemitism the "controversy" caused. Total kike death, hope Tobias Zorro Judio finishes the game someday and then chokes on a dick.
>>737172425Agent of chaos, simply there to stir shit up so the characters get to where they need to be for the prophecy to be fulfilled
>>737155303>>737156113I think the Weird Route in Chapter 5 will possibly be the festival date plus the ice maze where Noelle gets used up. She's too strong and unlike Ralsei and Susie she has no limits to how much she can get strong in Chapter 2 which makes me believe she won't be playable that much in future chapters.
>>737173887Catbox it, then.
>>737173648>Probably 2 - 4 weeks moreBro, leave some cope for the rest of us
>>737154838>>737155817That's because for troons every human is a hecking valid non-binary so gendering them is being an evil chud, while tranny Ralsei is being a queer ally. When the redditor got exposed in his anti-FemKris post there were a lot of people against it while defending tranny Ralsei. Shit's fucked.
>>737155817It's really funny how even the biggest lefties have to actively stop themselves from calling Kris "he" because he basically is an edgy, possibly sociopathic teenage boy in every aspect and no amount of LGBT conditioning will change how aggressively male-coded he is.
>>737174063Here's the OG image.https://files.catbox.moe/86tu4q.jpg
>>737156505I don't know about that. Toby would probably struggle on a different engine as he wouldn't be used to it.
>>737174752Nuh-uh, Krissy is female coded and she's my wife.
>>737174839Damn, it's rare to actually see /ll/ done unironically, but to be fair I do prefer Kre/ss/. Maybe you can just edit boy to girl or something. >>737174881This but the other two humans.
>oh I see... all along the real Delta Rune was the friends we made along the way... bravo Toby...>*dies of old age*
>>737157039Sorry but everyman is just a gag, he didn't even show up in 3 and 4.
>>737173826>>737174119Well ok, 2 months? Sounds good? Testing is something that lasts as long as it lasts, 1 week to months, but deltarune isn't really that complex.
>>737176170It will happen when you keep adding secondary mechanic bullshit on top of having alternate routes because of the morality system. Can't wait for Chapter 5 to have a whole ass Advance Wars minigame used only for one (1) bossfight
>>737174498I misread "fvck" as "cuck" for a split second.
>>737175960Weren't there unused assets for a Titan spawn that was literally just another Everyman?
>>737157560Toby probably cares more that Deltarune is seen as its own thing, yes. He already said he doesn't expect Deltarune to make you feel as you did with Undertale nor for it to be super liked (Toby thought half of the fanbase would've hated Chapter 3)>>737159369Deltarune's fanbase is just as gay if not gayer than Undertale, and Toby explicitly likes the AUtism part of the Undertale's fandom that Deltarune so far lacks.
>>737177047Yes, but it was cut because it's probably not that important beyond a quirky easter egg.
>>737177067I don't think even Toby is comfortable with the next level autism of the DR fanbase.
>>737176170>Well ok, 2 months?That's unironically a best case scenario. Two months is possible if literally everything goes right, by which I mean minimal easy to fix bugs, no scheduling issues, him not sitting on it so he can do a nintendirt direct showcase, etc.I'm not sure exactly how they go about testing but looking back on previous newsletters they first test the PC version, then they make the ports and test each of them separately (switch, switch 2, ps4, ps5). After that's done they implement the Jap localization then run through that as well. I don't have much faith in Toby and his team to organize these testing sessions with minimal downtime.
>>737114771>blueskygo back
>>7371761703-4 months for testing to finish then an additional 1 month for whatever other bullshit there is to do besides testing before releasing the chapter. I think that's more realistic.
>>737157627>>737157808The more we WAIT, the less likely is for the game to go viral like Undertale. Normalfags hate episodic releases and we're missing a meme magnet like Sans was for Undertale. Chapter 2 was probably Deltarune's most popular release and that's mainly because we had Spamton and the reveal of the Weird Route. I think only Chapter 7 can surpass it.
>>737172234She truly would've been Gaster's successor, then
>>737176938It's your fear of Kris being keked in Chapter 5 showing.
>>737177067Toby doesn't like the part of his fandom that has conniptions over violence in video games.
>>737167076Toby probably didn't think about the consequences of making christianity a thing by making christmas canon. Ironically enough monsters didn't celebrate christmas in Undertale but instead they had gyftmas based on Gyftrot which implies Jesus was born after the monsters were sealed underground.
>>737177794I think if he releases the last two chapters at the same time the game can blow up. If he releases Chapter 6 individually there will be a brief freakout over gaster within the fandom but everyone not in will just say "I'll wait until the full game comes out" and the hype will be spread out too much. If 6 and 7 get released at the same time then you get the autists losing their shit over gaster giving the game free advertisting and normies will buy it because it'll actually be finished.Toby could also just do the bunker in Chapter 7 but come on that'd be lame.
>>737174853It'd have been better for him to go through the learning curve of a new engine then have to wait several months for gamemaker's devs to add a feature that's essentially a bandaid for not being able to support large games. Plus Toby has said the engine will have to go through an even bigger upgrade in the future.
>>737178756Deltarune fans are still like that which is why big youtubers aren't playing it.
>>737179069Which is why he's still trying to communicate to them that Deltarune isn't theirs.
>>737162214Yep, this happened. I was there. Holiday money and connections made her get away with it yet again.
>>737178756It's funny how Deltarune clearly isn't going to have a pacifist ending in the hopes of making those people shut up but is still going to have a genocide ending
>>737136853>huh i always thought mysterious girlfriend x was kinda a more modern thingIt is, only ended about 10 years ago, the guys style is just very classic-looking. Pretty fitting that his next manga (the mom fucking one) is half flashbacks to the 80s
>>737177067>Toby explicitly likes the AUtism part of the Undertale's fandom[citation needed]
>>737177067>Go invent 500 skeletons
>>737179818It's literally in the picture, blind-kun.
>>737180154you are an autist incapable of distinguishing generic encouragement from actual like
>>737179727Deltarune is clearly going to have an all recruits ending though.
>>737180245>Toby actually hates AUs and his encouragement means nothingYou're coping. He loves the cringe shit. He literally made fanfic of Sans winning the tumblr sexyman tournament.
>>737178304noelle and Susie are (you)r side chick and main chick respectively. imagine being Kris and a prophecy states you're going to get ntr'd by a floating heart/human who came out of nowhere
>>737180271And it'll still have required you to fight against several bosses.
>>737180271I think there might be some kind of bonus or two in castle town for all recruits and maybe there will be a bit of extra ending dialogue with each darkner you recruited but it won't change the ending's final outcome
>>737164970I hope so, we need more rape.
>>737180578Yes, but Undertale was also like that to get the pacifist ending. So far recruiting everyone and being a pacifist is only a net positive, you get nothing from losing or missing recruits.
>>737177067I feel like we can't get real AUtism until we get the LORE and backstory for people to fuck around with. Though I do wish for more undertale Crossovers, Ralsei in undertale would be a great story.
I can never take AUs seriously when my impression of them is the 10 year old author turning Sans' eyes red, giving him a spikier jacket and adding needless melodrama. Why does everything revolve around the skeletons?
>>737180429>He loves the cringe shityet somehow has never ever actually referred to anything specific!
>>737180930>Why does everything revolve around the skeletons?because most AUs are made by women who want to fuck them
>>737180964He directly talked about Underfell in the anniversary stream, so you lost.
>>737180930>mid 30s man who has nihilism and loves milfsGee I don't know why so many people identify with him.
>>737180930AUs are to tumblr women what the furry SOUL fangames are to 4chan men, an excuse for them to fuck their favorite characters, in this case skeletons.
>>737181087and didn't say he liked it>>737181115the AUs aren't made by people who identify with sans retard
>>737181256anon, most girls want to fuck Sans because they relate to him on some level
>>737181306[citation needed]
>>737181256You need to stop moving the goalpost, you said he didn't talk about anything specific, but he did. Immediately when he was talking about Underfell he asked if the fans still did that and they said they should go and invent 500 more skeletons. He likes AUs, he can like things you dislike
>>737180678And yet the game still isn't reinforcing the retarded view of Undertale that led so many fans to send death threats to streamers for playing it wrong.
>>737181387Undertale doesn't have that view, Asriel explicitly tells you that being a pacifist in the real world is impossible and you need to aim to simply not kill and not be killed.
>>737181375like i said, generic message of encouragement, not actual praise
>>737181519You can keep coping Toby secretly shares your views, you are clearly in denial.
>>737181387I'm still pissed we have no good Deltarune streamers now because of it. I really wish more of these kids would learn that if they don't like where the story is going they should stop reading.
>>737181115>likes milfsAUfags didn't give a shit about Soriel, they just self-inserted as Frisk to fuck Sans, there's several AUs that were implicitly only made to be Frans. I feel like Toriel being old makes young women not want to be her.
>>737181628There's no deltarune streamers because streaming an unfinished game is boring
>>737181475Yeah. Undertale doesn't have that view. Which is why it sounds retarded to me that people say Toby is "failing" by not dragging these people back in. By now his treatment of Undertale references in Deltarune has made it pretty clear that there's no love lost between him and people who act like his characters are living breathing people whose trust he's violating by treating them poorly.
>>737172425We don't know yet but I feel like most people ignore why it's kidnapping the Undertale cast. I feel like these two actions are extremely related but we don't know how related yet.
>>737181786which is why after chapter 5 is released toby needs to say chapter 6 and 7 are coming in 2027 as a bundle. I want my vessel back. been waiting 8 years for this slow burn nonsense with Susie stealing all the glory...even though she's fun. and teasing Carol if possible. and I want my got darn Kris vs you battle!
>>737181857Like I said, Deltarune hasn't really lost the type of fans that harass others for playing it wrong, if anything the only fans it lost were the casual ones that usually were the target of this harassment or the cringefags that did stuff like AUs.
>>737181950I personally don't think the story is going in the direction of Undertale being special/important. Theories like>these characters are secretly from Undertale>we're going to open a dark world and cause Undertale>we need to assemble the Undertale castHave been stuck in the same state of "well why else would sans or torielbe here?" with no further evidence since chapter 1
>>737181950I was under the impression that both Toriel and Undyne having any sort of real knowledge about the knight would be a fucking problem because both of them would question Asgore about the matter and that's a very bad time for the knight.
>>737182103I want the game in 2027 too but it probablyisn't happening. Toby had to force the gamemaker devs to make a new feature for deltarune and it took substantially longer then projected, and he's said he needs them to make an even larger feature later...The best case scenario is Toby dips into his finances to pay the gamemaker devs to work faster and even then the game probably won't be done until 2028
>>737182138Deltarune is losing the fans who got rabidly attached to [character] and thus felt a need to defend them by showing that [character] is not as good/central to Deltarune as they anticipated.
>>737182262I'm a little mad about Catti getting sidelined. Like was she that much a threat to the suselle subplot that she needed to be put in the unimportant character dumpster?
>>737177067>(Toby thought half of the fanbase would've hated Chapter 3)he was correct, chapter 3 was shit aside from sword route and the knight fighthowever, he was wrong in thinking everyone would hate tenna
>>737182312Trust in the plan, Cattichad.
>>737182323>The Spamtenna fandom is rapidly approaching your location
>>737182312toby punishing me for talking to catti (by making her hate kris) is why i will shitpost to infinity every time he gets into drama btw
>>737182312"Sidelining" a character requires them to have not been on the sidelines at some point. The closest thing to plot relevance Catti got was potential ties to Kris's experience with being possessed, and the dialogue discussing the "demon summoning" incident was so vague you couldn't even tell if they THOUGHT it worked, much less if it actually did.
>>737182402Based FRIEND
>>737182497Think about it this way. Does a shit game stop being shitty just because it got you hard?
>>737182323Chapter 3 was fine, half the fanbase hated it not because it was bad but because it didn't follow their specific expectations.
>>737182180Except Undertale characters are already pretty important with the Knight targeting two of them, Gerson existing and Asgore in the future. I don't think Deltarune will connect to Undertale but Undertale characters are more important than a lot of Deltarune originals so far.>>737182242Except it was the Knight's plan to bait them into the Dark World. Beforehand they were completely oblivious so the Knight wanted them for a reason we don't know yet. Probably some sort of ritualistic sacrifice.
>>737183398So far, the Undertale characters with importance aren't important because of anything to do with Undertale. They all have roles that explain their current place in the plot without bringing up Undertale at all. The plot is not going in the direction of glorifying Undertale or playing up its importance, is my point, and it feels like that's what a lot of people are hoping for when they propose theories like this.
>>737178902Gaster is probably Toby's last hope at making another Sans and getting Deltarune at the same viral level as Undertale, especially since he was already a tumblr sexyman in the Undertale era with minimal screentime. He just can't fumble it.
>>737183636I trust Toby has a shred of dignity and will NOT show Gaster. Gaster being mysterious and ethereal is his whole shtick.
>>737183636I don't think going viral, much less via "sans 2," is a very realistic estimation of Toby's hopes for Deltarune.
>>737183872I don't think showing Gaster would be undignified in itself. I expect if it happens it will come after a bunch of buildup of us "leaving" the game entirely so we can exist at his level, however briefly. Or something like that anyway.
>>737180479That's what he gets for being so mean to me unlike my human wives, now I will take his furry wives.But for real, I don't think we will date Susie at all and I predict our Noelle date will end badly for her once she gets used up.
>>737182312We will cuck suselle with krusie next chapter and avenge Catti
>>737184565I feel like the game is building up to Ralsei inadvertently cucking noelle but Krusie works too.
>>737180840The only major Deltarune crossover that existed that I remember was Deltatraveler, but that flopped and got canceled. I do like them, though, KFC pictures are one of my favorites.
>>737181857>By now his treatment of Undertale references in Deltarune has made it pretty clear that there's no love lost between him and people who act like his characters are living breathing people whose trust he's violating by treating them poorly.Toby is literally one of the worst offenders when it comes to this though, it's clear that the reason why he doesn't want to make merch of the lightners is because he somehow thinks of them as being "real" in a sense.
>>737182103>which is why after chapter 5 is released toby needs to say chapter 6 and 7 are coming in 2027 as a bundleThere's a a better chance that you'd playing the lottery and winning the biggest prize than of this happening. He takes a year(more, actually, since Chapter 5 had already been worked on, but let's ignore that for now) to make one chapter and you think the can make 2 in a single year?
>>737185380I think this view is projection on the part of the fanbase that thinks this way. If Toby really thought of them as "real" in any sense then he'd object to making a game about them, or at least object to merch that violates the spirit of the rule such as the hero_weapon statuettes.
>>737185653>or at least object to merch that violates the spirit of the rule such as the hero_weapon statuettes.In that case in particular the characters in the mantle videogame are literally different entities than the main characters, this is clearly shown in the sword route with mini kris appearing outside of the game and in the same room as kris.
>>737185839I understand this. I'm saying that if Toby had the principles you're claiming, then a letter of the law "they're not really the same character" explanation would not satisfy those principles.
>>737181628It's that plus Deltarune is an episodic release, streamers unironically forget the game's story when there's literal years between each chapter.
>>737182103I want the Vessel back, too, but 2027 is just too early. 2029 or 2030 is the safest bet for a release date.
>>737182262I don't think that's the case, though. I don't think Toby is spitefully writing against someone who thought Catti or whatever was going to be important. He had the script already done in 2020.
>>737184405yeah I don't care about the romance I just want to mess with Kris. aside from that I don't want noelle to get used up. funnily enough I kind of care about the sperg doe
>>737184682>DeltatravelerWas that the one that had Dess assuming Gaster was a pedo or am I misremembering things?
>>737187295>aside from that I don't want noelle to get used upI hope you're not doing the weird route then.
>>737185572he needs to because I was able to forget deltarune existed for 7 years and now I'm invested. I need to kick kris's teeth in then immediately help them do whatever their stupid plan is with the roaring right after and hopefully prevent the end of the world
>>737187338Yeah, she was a troon, too. She thought Gaster was diddling Frisk.
>>737187363It doesn't matter what he "needs" to do, the issue here is that he can't. That's the root of the problem here.
>>737182312She was always a side character, people just thought she would've been relevant because Berdly was, but she had no voice blips unlike him.
>>73718639211 years or 11 days...this episodic release stuff was a mistake man.
>>737187353we're already trying to subvert the prophecy. let's hope we can sub ert whatever being used up is too
>>737183552Yeah, I don't think Undertale characters are important because Undertale is important and Deltarune will be about that game at all. Deltarune is clearly it's own story, it's just that the Knight does seem to be kidnapping them, and we don't know why still. Nobody really theorizes it.
>>737187612Oh please, you can't seriously think the weird route is gonna end up with a good outcome for Noelle, it will be a complete disaster for everyone involved, all the signs are pointing to it, you're getting warned about it every single step of the way. This Good Weird Route thing only exists in your imagination.
>>737183872I think Gaster will show up eventually physically between all the teasing like the colored door in the livestream.>>737183940Maybe it's not what Toby wants but it's just a hypothetical discussion to what Deltarune needs in order for it to be as popular as Undertale. I don't think Toby cares that much about Deltarune being popular.
>>737184298>im not telling youWhat the fuck is his problem? What if I'm up to assist in whatever ridiculous scheme? I'm just here to help honestly
>>737184298>>737188424Dess is his groomer, he doesn't want you to get in between that.
>>737185653Toby explained in an email he doesn't make Chara merch because that would hurt what they represent, so I feel like it's not so much Toby thinks they're real people but more so he's autistic about diluting their role in the story by making merch of them.
>>737141017i'm aware of these threads on the catalog but every possible avenue of discussion has been tread and i don't get any enjoyment out of arguing with schizosmost sane people will return when Chapter 5 releases, talk about the game for a month, and then go back to doing other shit
>>737188920Yeah, that's the sense I got too. Similar reason to why he doesn't like to acknowledge the weird route or gaster, it's sorta like kayfabe.
>>737180930because sans was the most popular undertale character. every kid / autistic woman that liked the game went "wow that's cool i need to make my own version of him" and it was a feedback loop for a long time. i don't care for the AUs but they're such harmless fun i can't hate them either
>>737189075he pretty much ignores the genocide route too outside of battle against a true hero and megalovania
>>737183246Yeah man, expecting Deltarune to feature Deltarune gameplay is such an specific and ridiculous expectation.
>>737173898Ever notice that everyone of them that's complaining about Spanish localization always doing it in English?
>>737187295Sorry but the deer girl is absolutely dying. The point is that they're just your tools just be used and then discarded. Noelle is toast.
>>737189743I feel like there's a chance she goes and murders fucking everyone including kris and congratulations the soul is stuck with a borderline mindless deer in an empty town they can't leave.
>>737187363>>737187541I'm surprised you managed to avoid this game for 7 years. I was here since survey program, although I didn't care about the WAIT in the pre Chapter 2 era. Only afterwards is that I got trapped in the cycle of WAITing and coping.
The internet is getting shut down in Russia, so I don't really give a fuck. Toby should delay it until 2036 at minimum, 2042 at maximum, the President isn't likely to live that long
>>737155817One makes a character more woke while the other less. I still find it funny how troons were completely incapable of hijacking Susie like they tried with Noelle and ralsei
>>737174881Look at kris with your eyes and not your dick and tell me with a straight face that this is a woman
>>737141017It’s almost like having daily threads for a singleplayer game only appeals to autists
>>737190293They haven't given up yet. I still see attempts to give susie a dick. The sheer number of people who project on Susie is staggering.
>>737114771Six more months, he's almost started the english translation.
>>737141654you tell ME im a FRIEND INSIDE you?
>>737190382NTA, but there's a lot of anime girls that look like Kris, even if I can concede he looks manlier than the other humans.https://x.com/Ryzoclips/status/2045380003769012407
>>737190638kris is just frisk but taller
>>737190490i mean seen several women self insert as susie fucking ralsei
>>737189397People will hate AUs here but praise stuff like Yellow in the same breath. Still funny how Siivagunner just treated it like a random AU during it's April Fools event.
Say anons, with all the current available knowledge of all 4 chaptersWHAT DO YOU THINK THE LYRICS SAYShttps://youtu.be/zzU2_F6IXyY?t=25
>>737190781Not fully true, but Frisk being younger makes them look more feminine anyways. If you swapped Kris's head with both Frisk and Chara both of them would look more manly simply because Kris's body is manlier. But people still see the other humans are more feminine than him.
>>737188035I can cope just like ralsei til reality sets in. here's hoping for a good outcome!
>>737189743>Sorry but the deer girl is absolutely dying.Somehow, I feel that will apply to both the weird route and the normal one.
>>737187879Undyne is not going to be sacrificed, thats pretty much guaranteed
>>737191369Yeah, we will stop it but I'm curious on why they want to sacrifice her.
Will never understand how people can be so utterly obsessed for over a decade with some poorly written shit that mostly consists of lame jokes and MS paint characters making dumb faces. It would be as absurd as obsessing over something as childish and trivial as My Little Pony. Or maybe Sonic. You know, maybe people who talk about comics and video games online are just mentally ill.
>>737190841In their defense, everyone wants to fuck Ralsei. And Susie is the only real viable het ship for him so, makes sense they would use her as a self-insert of sorts
>>737190019I would be surprised if that happened but I remember seeing a video where Noelle freezes herself and (you) so the end is just a big softlock.
>>737169778I know I'm overthinking it, but I'm really into worldbuilding of anthros and humans coexisting, so seeing monsters in Deltarune celebrating Christmas is pretty interesting >>737178886>Ironically enough monsters didn't celebrate christmas in Undertale but instead they had gyftmas based on Gyftrot which implies Jesus was born after the monsters were sealed undergroundI don't know about that, chief Chara fell into the underground 201X, and wasn't there implication that Gerson and Asgore were there when the monsters got sealed?Again, I know I'm overthinking it and it's not something Toby thought of
>>737191791Noelle freezes the player and herself to eternally be together...kinda romantic
>>737191029>I think he's coming for me, answer the phone>I can't explain until you're all alone>It pulls the strings and makes them ring until your heart starts breaking up>I think he's coming from me, can't answer until you're all alone>It pulls the strings, it pulls the strings>Tell me what you BIG SHOT!
>>737191886There's a bear in front of the tree in Snowdin that explains that monsters only put gifts under a tree because of a tradition involving Gyftrot and wonders if humans have a tradition like that on the surface, which implies they don't know what Christmas is. Here's it's dialogue. https://hushbugger.github.io/dialogue/#Gift%20BearIt's possible Chara or any other human never explained to them what Christmas is.
>>737190867UTY isn't an AU because it doesn't show alternate versions of canon characters. Fan prequels/sequels are just a different category.
Getting mad about devs times againNo one else takes this long Toby. No one else.
>>737143119>if toby goes that routewhen he was vagueposting on twitter about deltarune many years back, he mentioned that a game very similar to what he had in mind for deltarune was being made, and the timeframe of when omori was being developed and shown off fits the bill, with what we know with december and all the little hints scattered across chapter 3-4 the possibility is very very real
>>737192489I know, I know. It's just funny Siivagunner put it in the same category, same with red and yellow, even though their fanbases mostly hate each other.
>Me taking Kris to a love hotel for a weekend of none stop plapping
>>737192964shut the fuck up dess
>>737192964Male or female?
>>737193091Male female? Who cares I'm fucking Kris into oblivion either way. If Toby was actually based he'd let up date Kris.
>>737188035>YOU FUCKING CHUD HOW YOU DARE INTERVENE IN THE HEKKIN WHOLESOME (except they act fucking insufferable) YURIwoah t-thanks Toby for the meta message..
>>737189610Well I'm not going to notice the complaints that are in spanish because I literally can't read them.
>>737192618Yeah the premise of both games is very similar, but tobby has the weight of expectations and the fandom's attachment to the charactersHe can be based and just go with it... who knows
>>737193226Y'know what? Based. I'm usually a female humanbro but I got to respect the ones who don't gaf.
puppy
>>737192349I'm gonna pull Occam's razor and think it's either humans and monsters weren't close enough to know about each other's traditions or that knowledge were forgotten in time, which seems plausible since none of the monsters recognized Frisk as humanLike IDK, if what you say is correct, that would imply Asgore and Toriel didn't have a child until 2000 years laterI always thought the time monsters were trapped was like a millennium at most
>>737180271The school project is going to be castletown once the fountain is closedGuess you need Susie and monsters alive for that too
>>737193889It could be that only Asgore and monsters like him remember about Christmas (which is why he dresses as Santa) while the other monsters forgot about it and coincidentally invented a similar holiday by themselves.
>>737188920yet did he ever said what chara represents?
>>737193057I wish I was Kris and Dess raped me.
>>737194326Ironically, no. He kept it vague like he does with anything involving a human. Maybe he just want to keep whatever merch of his waifus for himself.
>>737194326>that feeling
>>737194531He is so picky with the oddest stuff>>737194551Accomplishment? Satisfaction?...I want a fumo that makes me feel that!
>>737172425Well, if we look at the places the Knight opened the fountains in (the classroom, the library, and the church), there is one character who seems to be connected to all 3.Noelle. Technically Alvin too but that is another can of worms.Like, in chapter 1, the Dark World seems to be a trap that uses Alphys' missing chalk as a setup, and we know that Noelle volunteered to get the chalk that day. The Knight is likely a Holiday and would be familiar with Noelle's character and that she is always the one who get Alphys' stuff for her. Noelle being the target will explain why the Knight snuck into the Library of all places to open a Dark World in during Chapter 2, and for Chapter 4 Noelle is a member of the choir too.As for what the Knight wants with Noelle, their decision to make Gerson the Shadow Crystal holder for the church's Dark World may provide a hint. I believe the true purpose for the church's Dark World is to get Noelle to meet Gerson and witness the power of the Dark World to "revive" the dead, implanting in her the idea to use it to revive her father if he dies from his illness, and perhaps to get her sister back too.Yeah, my theory is that the Knight wants to get Noelle to start the Roaring. However their plans had gone completely off track due to Ralsei's and Kris' time loop meddling so who knows what their next plan is. I am not sure about chapter 3's Dark World though, perhaps it is a plan Kris came up with independently and the Knight only became aware of it near the end of the chapter.
>>737194886Personally I assume that what Toby is talking about is that Chara is supposed to be the feeling of stats increasing and all and so having a plush of her would ruin it. It's dumb, I want my human plushies>>737194132Unironically I think the more recruits we have the stronger our town will be for the endgame threat. It will be a refuge from the end of the world.
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>>737190382Truly the apex of being feminine.
>>737195123>feeling of stats increasingI mean that is a good feelingthough a comfort i have is that tobby would order the plushies from fangamer... and that would be a bad time
>>737195886buppy
>>737177067>and Toby explicitly likes the AUtism part of the Undertale's fandom that Deltarune so far lacks.I'm happy to hear that, because as an Undertale fan since 2016, UT AUs have been my autism comfort, even after a full decade>>737181087Link to the moment he says this?I wouldn't be surprised if he acknowledges Underfell given how it's the most popular AU
>>737197008Man, I think it was in the second livestream? I can't give you a timestamp, I feel like it was when they were in Hotlans. Sorry I can't be of much help, I haven't rewatched the stream in awhile.
>>737192516If anyone other than Toby took this long to finish a game that looks like Deltarune the Internet would endlessly clown them for itReminder that it also somehow costs $5 more than Silksong
>>737196223Yeah, I heard fangame plushies are really bad so I guess only having custom plushies is for the better even if I prefer official merch myself.
>>737154328I wonder why chapters 6 and 7 weren't included in this, maybe because there is a major shift in the story during/after chapter 5 that will have real influence on the way the story unfolds. it would be cool if the weird route became completely different from the normal route but I doubt that will be the case as they would have to basically make two chapters in one
>>737197509>If anyone other than Toby took this long to finish a game that looks like Deltarune the Internet would endlessly clown them for it I've seen this repeated as if it were gospel but it isn't really trueOmori took ~7 years from announcement to completion and it's rarely if at all mentione in critique of the gameSilksong also took around 7 years and while the development time was a meme the people who were waiting for it did enjoy it, and seem to understand it as "it was worth the time spent"There's probably other examples but generally the people who actually want these games to come out because they're excited to play them don't care how long it takes as long as they'll eventually be able to experience it. Neither Omori or Silksong are "clowned" for their development time (in any meaningful way). Hell, Heartbound has been in development for 11 years and people care less about that than the fact that the game's just boring and uninteresting. Long wait times mean that the people who really give a shit are the ones paying attention and they're the least likely to treat something taking too long as substantial criticism in itself. It's more like an unfortunate reality than a true flaw
>>737197008>>737197343I found it, it's during the Alphys date, right at the start. He talks about how he met the creator and that people should continue to make AUs as long as he doesn't get involved in it.
>>737197008>>737198258Here's the link.https://youtu.be/FS903HbnfWg?t=11149
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>>737198083Toby never includes 6 and 7 in any sort of material. Everything seems to end at 5, the eggs, the crystal, and now the weird route. It seems like 6 and I are going to be weird, trippy chapters, especially since Chapter 7 of Lord of the Hammer was never finished, too.
>>737198539he mentioned that work started on ch6 in the september report last year, marking the first time he has done so
>>737197509Toby has endless goodwill, that's why. That's why so many tried to latch on to the latinx controversy, because it was the first time people were hating on him.
>>737198196Hollow Knight had a comparable level of prestige to Undertale to where people were willing to wait for the sequel even though it took an abnormally long time, not to mention Silksong has far more to show for itself and justify that long development time than Deltarune ever will. As for Omori, I've seen plenty of people criticize the messy behind the scenes development and lack of communication even if they think the final product was worth it
>>737195004The biggest problem is that Kris is working for the Knight and he doesn't seem like a traitor, so I can't see him making Noelle avoid the Dark Worlds if that's the plan. Plus if Carol is involved she explicitly kept Noelle too busy to go to the church despite knowing the Knight was opening a fountain which throws a wrench into that being the Knight's plan.
>>737189534>Deltarune gameplay.Yeah, going through an overworld engaging in various characters, puzzles and jokes is completely different and not the same when you're doing it through a game inside the game and with a pixel filter.If there weren't any fights, I would agree, but I loved chapter 3, and I genuinely don't get what you mean by saying it doesn't have 'Deltarune' gameplay
>>737197509>Reminder that it also somehow costs $5 more than SilksongThat's because Team Chery is VERY generous The game could've costed $40 and it would've still been worth the priceI got 70 hours worth playtime and I'm still not done with my first playthrough >>737198196>There's probably other examples Mewgenics was announced all the way back in 2012, although its actual development (re)started in 2018, so the development is still longer than Silksong's>>737199274>not to mention Silksong has far more to show for itself and justify that long development time than Deltarune ever will.Anon, we are only halfway through Deltarune. This is like if Team Cherry released Silksong Act 1 and half
>>737198714Toby has alluded that Chapter 6 does exist but it seems like it was the chapter that consumed the author so I definitely expect it to be mostly Gaster shit.
>>737114771kys tranny
>>737182323I liked 3 more than 4 but you're right Mantle elevated it beyond belief.
>>737198196Maybe quirky indie games in general just take forever to be finished.
If the ending sucks that will be proof that Toby is the antichrist just in my honest imho opinion.
>>737154838Have you seen the people that she/her Toby Fox? Lmao
>>737201764You will need to wait 4 years to even see if that's the case lol.
>>737201942Maybe that is why he is Stalling.He doesn't want Us to Know.
>>737199859>various charactersShadowguy, pippins, shadowguy, pippins, over and over again for the entire chapter. Not a single proper midboss (Shuttah gets donwgraded to common enemy, Rouxls is a recurring enemy and the Weather Couple is too short and doesn't get a unique song). ERAM is a non character. Ramb fucking dies unceremoniously. Watercooler is a gag fight. Barely any fights with the (very few) other enemies.>not the same when you're doing it through a game inside the game and with a pixel filterYeah it fucking isn't. Barely any enemy fights, low variety, no run button, doesn't actually use the theme of the dark world, doesn't use the locations and objects from the house either.
>>737202006It's not stalling, he's just genuinely bad at game delevopment.
>>737202261>no run buttonDeltarune doesn't have a run button in general, buddy. Toby removed it from Undertale.
>>737202261>and the Weather Couple is too short and doesn't get a unique songThey literally do though? Ruder Buster is a unique song.
>>737203221NTA but it's technically not unique to them since it plays in other encounters.
>>737203286What other encounters? I don't remember it playing anywhere else, or did the first Shuttah have it?
>>737202261I dunno man, 90% of the fights in chapter 2 were some combo of tasque, werewire, virovirokun and ambyulance. All the fights with mais happen like, back to back in one set of screens, same with swatches. In my book, ch3 mostly manages better variety than that. You seem fixated on a very specific idea of how Deltarune is allowed to do things that isn't rooted in reality.
>>737203594The first Shuttah has it, yeah.
