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I enjoyed Visions of Mana but the studio getting slashed instantly after release really bothered me.
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>>737121668
>nude mods were out for this game before the game was even released
Never underestimate penis power, damn.
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>>737121932
I REALLY wanted to buy Visions but saw the game was fucking censored in the demo.
SE can go fuck themselves.
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>>737124896
>Oh no! I can't look up a girl's skirt! >:( Damn woke...
If it's fun, your horny goes away
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>>737125171
dilate
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>>737125171
Only if you're low test.
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>>737122086
no other mana girl can compete
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>>737125171
Why can't it be both fun and optionally horny? Just don't move the camera up the girl's skirt if it offends you. It would be less work on their part.
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with Riesz appearing in Elliot. i wonder if the other girls will too
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Visions was terrible, they learned nothing from the trials of mana remake
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>>737125171
one of the great joys in life is being able to play a fun game for hours and then fapping to said game afterwards
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>>737121932
It was bound to happen. The Chinese realized that there's actual talent within their borders, so they jumped ship and started to kill off all the studios they bought, one by one.
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>>737126164
I just wish it wasn't all gacha. I think their games look fine, I just won't play that kind of game
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>>737126648
It happened after Wukong, which is not a gacha.
Their market is slowly shifting into "complete" games because gacha have more than hit saturation there.
But gacha will never completely go away since it's basically the only place where they can games with lewd girls in the open.
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>>737124896
What happens if you export the model into a 3D editor?
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>>737121932
I dropped the game after a few hours because the character disappearing ticked me off more than I thought it would. I'm actually nearing the end of Trial of Mana for the first time and feel some semblance of a game made for me.
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>>737127223
It should be fine since it's a trick on the camera, not the models themselves.
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>>737125171
The disappearing is so severe that you can't enjoy the characters ANYTHING. Character models that seem like a direct 1/1/ of the artists style and you can't even enjoy them. Pretty sure even gay furries would side with me on this one. Fuck Square Enix.
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>>737121668
great girl, lame ass fucking game
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>>737125646
I'm not a fag like you, so if a sexy video game woman is in front of me I'm going to be moving the camera under the skirt. Then I get horny and distracted so I jerk off, and afterwards I'm no longer in the mood to continue the game, so it never ends.
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>>737127991
>I'm not gay so I don't like female fanservice
This is the weirdest cope. Trolling or not, you're a genetic dead end and you should go apologize to your mother.
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>>737126118
they needed another one in visions so i could go vergil mode on her ass
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Post moar
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>>737128249
I like female fanservice, but I also like playing video games, and the fanservice makes it difficult to actually play them. I would rather the fanservice be separate, in the form of a visual novel or lewd official art. Sorry about your retardation, I'd imagine the homosexuality is difficult enough as it is.
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>>737128249
Also,
>apologize
>z
An amerimutt calling anyone else a genetic dead end is hilarious. You are the most vile creatures ever spawned, and the entire world despises you.
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>>737128249
man who has impregnated more socks than girls calls someone else a genetic dead end
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>>737121668
She wanted people to notice and that what peak feminist clothe should look like
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>>737124896
Just pirate it.
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>>737124896
great game but the fun part come in new game plus (and easily destroy the game, at least it explain why they locked it)
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>>737131215
I did but the censorship made me so butthurt about the game that I still haven't touched it.
>>737131442
I heard it was pretty mid actually, not that I'll actually play it in the near future...
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visions of mana mc is a fag... I've been playing for about 15 hours and I just can't sympathize with this dude at all. The dragon, cat and squirrel mog him so hard.
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>>737124896
Just mod it, retard. The dev team is dead anyways.
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>>737121932
>but the studio getting slashed instantly after release really bothered me.
What exactly do you want? Countless dogshit dlcs?
The game should be praised for being released in a finished state, which is insanely rare these days.
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>>737131779
He's just kind of a dumb country boy yokel. He gets a bit better especially when he gets over his wife dying.
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>>737132576
Already planned to and pirated it.
SE can go fuck themselves if they think I'm giving them money.
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>>737125686
Doubt it. It's just because her brother is also named Elliot, so it's funny.
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>>737125791
>they learned nothing from the trials of mana remake
the remake is objectively better than the original in every way, cocksmoker. Visions is boring though.
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>>737121668
such a disapoinment that the follow up game was aimed at kids
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>>737133943
anal impregnation
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>>737121668
Trials is a real gem, still need to do a replay with the other 3 characters. Who the better main character to choose, Riesz or Hawkeye?
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>>737133943
>promote
>get less clothes
Fairy magic sure is weird.
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>>737134219
Hawkeye has the revenge gimmick going in addition to saving his hot aunt. I would say to out Reisz as his 2nd ally spot though. Put whoever in the 3rd, I guess.
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>the GOOD colorization patch of FFA doesn't work with the retranslation+bugfix patch
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>>737121932
>>737124896
>try to play the game normally
>game gives you tons of things you can use by aiming it upward to fight the FLYING enemies
>your character completely vanishes making it nearly impossible to use said items and abilities
I had to download the uncensor mod just to play this game. Its really insane that they though having your character vanish completely in an action game was a good idea. And its not like flying enemies are rare, they are all over the place.
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>>737128042
M... Mr Advertiser... T-There's nothing to see here!
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>>737131134
leave or stay the fuck out
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>>737121668
the real trial was not losing your cum to angela sorceress runni g in the desert
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>>737136029
Who taught Rise to push them up like that? It's deceptive, dishonourable.
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>>737138703
Yay!
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Twials of Mana
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>>737121668
this is the first durangela playthrough where I feel actually threatened by the fuck-me-bots, cause holee sheet
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>>737137543
Riesze is built for?...
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This game has awesome girls but golly it's so boring to me. I really want to play through it but it kills my motivation...
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>>737121668
for me it's the famous beauty fwom wendew
her debuffs on dark/dark go fucking wild
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Shantae granting a cheeseburger wish to Angela!
https://x.com/OutOfContxtDubs/status/1950276314591875381
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>>737146767
Oh no, a coomer found out that the game is actually a comfy, PG-rated fantasy ARPG.

Oh, the humanity!
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>>737147189
Then why did they make them so sexy!?
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Is Riesz mentally capable of truly consenting to sex?
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>>737147367
Skimpy outfits alone don't make a game fan service schlock, and Trials is definitely way too tame to be fan service schlock.
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>>737147551
I mean, can any of the playable girls, really? (I know charlotte would)
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>>737147647
Bull-fucking-shit, the year it released, I fapped more to this game than any eroge released in the same year.
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>>737148660
That one chawolette doujin with this party rocks
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>get a mod that gave Riesz bigger tits
>it works on every outfit except for one of her class 4 final outfit
>the mod creator went awol and never updated it
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Remake > Original
Sorry, gameplay is just better all around.
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>>737127991
>>737125171
>>737131041
Why? As long as the fanservice isn't over the top like actual porn or those Korean gacha things, hot women doing cool shit while being sexy will always be a great selling point for games. Why do you think Nier Automata sold so well? Why do you think Western games don't sell so well nowadays when they separate normal heterosexual male sexuality (redundant but I mean no weird pedoshit or gross fetishes like scat or ryona).

You genuinely sound deeply sexually repressed . Seek help.
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>>737153190
>separate normal heterosexual male sexuality from their games (which are usually shit) only to get less and less returns as a result
FTFM
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>>737153190
>You genuinely sound deeply sexual
Thanks
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>>737125171
The words of a sexless individual. If a game is fun then I'm supposed to get MORE horny, not less.
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>>737152283
yea. the attempt to "modernize" the gameplay kind of just turned into a punchin bag simulator with no real resource management. even the simplistic gameplay in the original manages to be more engaging just cause enemies do shit and you have to manage shit
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>>737127776
>The disappearing is so severe
he doesnt know.. lol
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>>737133137

>kills your waifu to save his own
>fails and dies instead
>doesnt get punished for it, instead gets rewarded by being reborn with his waifu
>you die a 90 year old virgin

The whole story just pissed me off
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anybody surprised the company went under the night before VoM was released? No wonder Switch 2 didn't get a port.
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hows magic in SD3? I enjoyed spamming spells with Angela in the remake, any party recommendations would be nice since im not familiar with the og game
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>>737155517
game is piss easy so everything is good
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Is there a way to empty my inventory?
I want to play on no future again but I remember having all that shit taking out a lot of the difficulty
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>>737127991
Finding the upskirt sexy is being straight. Being able to control yourself until after you're done gaming is being white.
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>>737155517
>hows magic in SD3?
Becomes bad later on since enemies can counter you with an all screen attack that can easily wipe your party out.
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>>737155517
Magic is strong, the major downside is having to watch the animations versus the simple action gameplay of comboing your attacks into techs with Hawkeye or Kevin. I would look up which classes learn which spells cause you can miss out on special stuff.
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The way class skills were handled in Visions is probably my biggest complaint with the game.
The fact that you can only mix and match class passives only in the post-game and only those final two passives instead of all of them was a big miss.
That and the post-game being so short and mostly recycled stuff. It was so disappointing I thought there'd be a post-post-game but no, just a couple boss fights and that's that.
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>>737150168
If not troll, you got a problem with compulsive masturbation. Learn to keep the beast in a cage.

>>737158795
They did fine job with the remake (shame it didn't have any co-op though). I was interested in Visions, but the team obviously doesn't get any experience creating levels and stories making remakes.
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>>737121668
Is the other remake they did as good as this one? Cuz I enjoyed this one.
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>>737121668
>no co-op
What were they thinking?
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>>737132603
How about a sequel
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>>737162045
FUCK OFF, I SHOULDN'T HAVE LAUGHED AT THIS
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>>737161989
>What were they thinking?
>we need to make Angela's ass even bigger
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>>737161989
I'm surprised PCfags haven't modded it in.
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>>737121668
Mana is such a fucking shit franchise. Not one good game.
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>>737162868
WRONG
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>>737138703
The original shortstack
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Does the 3d remake do this view justice?
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>>737162946
That's Dryad, dumdum.
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>>737162995
Sometimes.
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>>737162829
I imagine it's a lot of work to retrofit multiplayer into a single player game and this game in particular is not popular enough to attract that much autism
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>>737162995
I used to take these visuals for granted. How could I not? Seemingly every Square RPG released on the SNES was just teeming with this kind of visual flair and I was able to experience all of them due to certain technological swashbuckling ways. But after seeing a decade of HD2D garbage and indie pixel slop, I finally realize how talented the artists in Square's wheelhouse were back then.
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>>737162934
Sex...
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>>737163590
>just put an upskirt with a healthy ass in the intro of the remaster
I dunno why they did it, but I appreciate it.
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>>737125171
>the character completely disappears if you tilt the camera up 15*
>heh, just watch porn ;)
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>>737128615
>tfw we'll never get a good remake of Secret of Legend
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>>737163853
The one we got was surprising enough. Even modern party-Ys games don't have that many attacks. Sadly, it was also too faithful for its own good. The sprite's Salamander spells need a serious rework, and that's the tip of the iceburg.
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>>737162934
Is the remaster any good? I played the PS1 version a long time ago but I never finished it.
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>>737163849
It doesn't work if you're in the air at all like on the floating bubbles in Visions anyways
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wich mana wud u trial
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>>737164132
hers
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>>737150221
This one?
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E
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>>737133943
Woah!
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>>737164196
I remember seeing one where the cover was her dark/dark class, might either be a different one or a sequel
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>>737164056
It's fine. The upscaled art looks kinda jank at times, but the script is the same as the original PS1 english release, for better and worse. Being able to toggle random battles on or off is nice, especially for maze-like maps. It has the Pocketstation game included, which is cool. All of the memory-card based unlocks are built-in (i.e. no need for save data from other games like SaGa Frontier 2). The rearranged OST is pretty cool, I think. I think co-op play is limited to guest characters and maybe monster / robot?
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>>737162995
I like the remake but stuff like this always brings me back to sprite-based media, it's far too pretty
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>>737164401
Must be this one, the sequel then.
https://exhentai.org/g/1829227/93ff211bee/
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>>737121668
>>737121870
Does this game have good ryona?
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So is this a 3D remake of Seiken Densetsu 3? Angela is looking hot as fuck, is the music any good?
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>>737162995
nope.
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>>737121870
Rare sneeds.
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>>737164941
The music is basically straight recreations of the old themes, it's good
I think there was a toggle to use the original music too?
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>>737164941
They did a pretty good job. In general this remake is pretty faithful, to a fault.
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>>737165081
There is. I actually like some arrangments more. less, or equally (as in they're different, but both work) compared to the originals.

Original: Powell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7COZ6AQUtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t3NIJDGE4s

Equal: Swivel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gXQa__SUVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpyYW-Yk5Wg

Remake: Three of Darkside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87WNPUSVT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKAISqWY7o
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>give rabite a single N-word pass
>suddenly goes mad with power and loses his shit
Why did he do it?
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>>737121668
I am playing through Angela's game and I kind of regret making her a Magus desu, it effectively removes all challenge from the game.
I will unequip that skill that gives her an extra 60% magic attack or whatever, but the knowledge that I'm gimping myself will bother my autism.
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>>737166226
Magus is so fucking good, I can't believe I made her a goddamn light side my first run, holy shit.
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>>737166226
Angela is busted in general, magic is really strong in the remake. Her end class choices all have busted shit.
The big ice pillar spell can damage enemies hits them if they move multiple hurtboxes through it so you can OHKO the secret boss with good timing since her body is so long
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>>737166357
Shit, and here I was spamming ancient like a retard.
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>>737166415
The ice pillar isn't always the best spell but it's just really stupid on large bosses if they move at all
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>>737166469
K-kino...
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Was Trials of Mana the last good Square Enix game?
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>>737147647
>Skimpy outfits alone don't make a game fan service schlock
That was true 30 years ago, when the original released.
Nowadays? They absolutely do.
There's a fucking reason why casual fanservice quite literally disappeared from both games and anime.
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>>737166289
Her costumes on the Light side are incredibly HOLY so I can't blame you.

>>737166357
Yeah, I've read that all her end game classes have some ridiculous shit kek
Do the higher difficulty settings that you unlock after beating the game provide a challenge or is it all moot because of NG+ anyway?

>>737166579
>There's a fucking reason why casual fanservice quite literally disappeared from both games and anime.
Yes, the reason being that Americans got a little bit too much into their weird Puritan LARP and some idiot Japanese developers caved in as well.
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When I played Trials of Mana Remake when it released on steam I went with an all boys team. Finished the game and tried playing with the other 3 all girls party and got bored of replaying the whole game again. I picked the beastman dude as my main character. While it's great the game has replayability with new playthroughs, I would have preferred to be able to play all the characters in one playthrough. Each character has specific dialogue with another character, sadly I ain't got time to replay the game multiple times for that.
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>>737166673
The highest difficulties are basically just a solo challenge mode cause the party AI is too shitty to stay alive on any fight that matters
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>>737166357
The new difficulty they added after a while effectively nerf Angela into her SNES levels.
>>737166673
>Do the higher difficulty settings that you unlock after beating the game provide a challenge or is it all moot because of NG+ anyway?
Yes because they nerf offensive spells and everything do more damage so you can't facetank everything.
Still easy with a full male party.
>and some idiot Japanese developers caved in as well.
Sadly, it's not just "some idiot devs", it's basically all the big and influential ones...
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>>737166553
Can't say but it is at least the last SE game I bought since all of their following release were either censored or had added (((diversity))).
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>>737166714
>the party AI is too shitty to stay alive on any fight that matters
Oh yeah... even right now on my first playthrough that is a problem so I can definitely see it.

>>737166778
>Yes because they nerf offensive spells and everything do more damage so you can't facetank everything.
Cool. Looking forward to it
>it's basically all the big and influential ones...
Yeah, it's true...
I nearly had an aneurysm when FFVII Remake came out and I read all about the """Ethics Committee""" shit
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>>737121932
I gave it an honest go, but dropped it near the end because that Vampire miniboss was just bad game design.
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>>737166579
>There's a fucking reason why casual fanservice quite literally disappeared from both games and anime.
Trials of Mana is literally an exception to this rule, though. This game's story and presentation are way more akin to a Saturday morning cartoon than they are to some trashy otaku game full of haremshit, tons of sex jokes, et cetera.
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>>737121668
Would love a remake of final fantasy 5 by the same team
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>>737121668
I only played the SD3 SNES version. Did they ever expanded upon how Angela is king Richard and queen Valda's daughter? She's basically a princess to 2 kingdoms.
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>>737167514
I don't think you understand what I meant by "casual fanservice".
Look, old animes and games had fanservice even if they weren't fanservice game/anime themselves.
Nowadays this is impossible because of the west.
>This game's story and presentation are way more akin to a Saturday morning cartoon
And even those in Japan used to have casual fanservice, FFS.
Angela and Riesz already had those lewd costumes for 30+ years, they didn't invent them out of nowhere for this remake.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R_L90Xpx38
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>>737168042
Did you know that the character designer for Seiken Densetsu 3 also did Record of Lodoss War?
Not related to your post but I always thought it was neat
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>>737168138
>Did you know that the character designer for Seiken Densetsu 3 also did Record of Lodoss War?
I didn't but now that you mention it, I'm starting to see the resemblance...
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>>737168042
>original Charlotte
CUTE
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>>737133943
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>>737125171
That’s the problem. It’s not fun.
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>>737168042
You're completely misunderstanding what I'm talking about.

The amount of horny shitposting this game received a couple of years ago would have a noob to the Mana series think it was some Senran Kagura-tier schlock, when in fact it was a totally innocuous game that you could easily let your kids play.
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>>737169286
It only highlight the fucking drought of fanservice game that we're in.
Blame our current era, not the people who enjoy casual fanservice.
It's the same shit for casual violence btw.
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>>737169382
The current era involves mobile games full of borderline if not flat-out smut. If you want fan service, go play gachas or some shit.
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>>737169451
ToM got popular BECAUSE it's not a gacha.
And the fanservice in gacha is paywalled harder than entire DLC sets on proper games.
You're being obtuse on purpose here and you're giving me the feeling that you're actually hate fanservice.
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>>737169535
>ToM got popular BECAUSE it's not a gacha.
ToM got popular because it's a remake of one of the most widely emulated fan translated titles from the SNES eras. It's a boomer favorite. Fan service had little to do with it outside of this weird-ass board.
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>>737169610
>ToM got popular because it's a remake of one of the most widely emulated fan translated titles from the SNES eras.
And if that remake was a gacha, do you think it would have been as popular?
>Fan service had little to do with it outside of this weird-ass board.
Yep, you're full of shit.
This particular game spawned doujins for 30 years and to my knowledge, the only other game that had this kind of longevity is DQ3.
FFS, the oldest doujins you can find on the net are of ToM.
You just confirmed that you're a fag who hate fanservice and is seething because most of the posts about it are about the girls... except it was like that for decades in Japan.
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>>737169719
>And if that remake was a gacha, do you think it would have been as popular?
Why the fuck would it have been a gacha?
>FFS, the oldest doujins you can find on the net are of ToM.
I've found older ones than that on hitomi in the past, so I don't know what the hell you're on about.
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>>737169787
>Why the fuck would it have been a gacha?
It isn't, thank god for that.
Now, if that remake was a gacha, do you think it would have been as popular?
>I've found older ones than that on hitomi in the past, so I don't know what the hell you're on about.
Feel free to explain how it disprove that ToM had doujins for 30 years?
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>>737125171
>perpetual tranny handwaving
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>>737169849
Okay, let me spell this out for you since you seem to be a complete moron: Fan service was not a major factor of ToM's success - be it its SNES original or the remake. The original's target audience was a bunch of kids who played Secret of Mana. The remake's audience was a bunch of boomers looking for a nostalgic throwback title.

I don't give a shit about its 30 years of doujins. Anything that's decently popular gets fan-made porn, and ToM is a game from a series that sold multi-millions and was made by one the biggest Japanese developers in the 90s. That doesn't mean the source material is predicated on sex appeal. Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon get tons of porn, but one could hardly any of those franchise fan service-centric.
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>>737125171
Objectively?
That's a biological contradiction for men so you're either a woman or a tranny.
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>>737170060
>Fan service was not a major factor of ToM's success
I disagree and so does Japan considering that the game is basically only remembered for Angela and Riesz.
>be it its SNES original or the remake
Yes for the original, no for the remake.
>The original's target audience was a bunch of kids who played Secret of Mana
Yes for the SNES version.
>The remake's audience was a bunch of boomers looking for a nostalgic throwback title.
Ok? It doesn't mean that they are suddenly sexless, if anything the remake is closer to the true vision of the game since we got to see all of the costume of the female characters in glorious 3D.
>I don't give a shit about its 30 years of doujins
You literally said that only /v/ cared about the fanservice and I proved you wrong.
>Anything that's decently popular gets fan-made porn
Sure but not for 30 years straight, long after its peak.
>and ToM is a game from a series that sold multi-millions and was made by one the biggest Japanese developers in the 90s
The Mana serie as a whole is in a bad shape and SE themselves fell out of grace, with them admitting that even FF is no longer a household name.
>That doesn't mean the source material is predicated on sex appeal. Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon get tons of porn, but one could hardly any of those franchise fan service-centric.
And where did I say that?
I'm talking about casual fanservice, dumbass, and ToM definitely had some, even on SNES.
But apparently having casual fanservice is the same as being a fanservice centric game, which show that you didn't understand my posts at all.
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>>737168559
S
Normal, Dark-Light, Light-Dark

A
Light, Dark, Lightlightlight, Darkdarkdark

B
Dark-Dark, Light-Light
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sex
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every magic girl in gaming should wear a leotard
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>>737171206
Based.
Leotard disappearing from games was a tragedy.
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>sexo design
>boring ass personality
what a waste
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>>737171863
Only character I enjoyed in that game was the Doomer plant. Elevated every scene he was in.
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>>737171645
LEOTARD CHADS RISE UP. THE ULTIMATE OUTFIT OF THE FEMALE FORM!

In all seriousness, leotards and especially high-cut leotards with thigh high boots is the fucking greatest thing ever designed for a female body
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>>737172742
it truly should be the mandetory outfit for every mage girl
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>>737172943
And also every wrestling / fighting character
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>>737121668
Fantasy hoes in leotards.
I like.
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Is this game any good? Leotard = interest piqued so do I go through the mutli-hour process of setting up Emudeck on my Steam Deck just to play this?

Nier Automata awoke this love of leotards for me btw at 17 years of age hence >>737172742
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>>737174034
It's basically a SNES action RPG but in 3D
Whether that's good or bad is up to you to decide
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Nya.
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>>737163849
>It's amazing how much rightwing discourse is just them not understanding things, thus making discourse impossible.
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>>737174034
It's fun, but a bit on the easy side.

If you don't mind that, go for it.
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>>737174034
It plays like a snes game, so I guess it can feel a bit arcade-y and simple. But I liked it, perfect for when your tired after work type of game
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>>737168495
She can't bweath!
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>>737174059
>>737174681
>>737176484
Ok thanks bros, I will give it a play. Been meaning to play Xenosaga and Xenoblade too purely because of Kos-Mos' outfit and Pyra's outfit
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>>737164132
>Angela
>Hawkeye
>Kevin
Sexiest party in the remake
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>>737176484
Belladonna is so hot and then she transforms and gets a huge ass, not even a furfag but it was insane
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>>737166289
Grand Diviner (Light/Light) is just as strong with saint beam and neverending MP and her final class wears a slutty wedding dress. I'm definietly on team Light with Angela.
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Original SD3 was better.
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>>737178350
Yeah Grand Divina for me too.
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>>737121668
Trials of Mana was absolute ludokino.
Visions of Mana was such a letdown comparably and it's all because Studio Xeen didn't develop it.
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>>737174059
The remake added post game stuff too iirc
>>737174681
I remember entering a no healer route by accident
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>>737128042
Best mod. It was the only one I used in the game, besides one that left the fairy completely naked.
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>>737178892
I don't see it.
Even worse balance, there was mechanics that didn't work (like shields) and if your party wasn't unga you had to pause the game every time.
It only beats the remake in graphics.
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>50 fucking bucks
Do Square games ever get discounted on Steam?
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square you bozos
just make a game focusing on these two
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Also consider:
Angela Mommy
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>>737181236
seriously
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>>737171206
>every magic girl in gaming should wear a leotard
truly
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>>737179467
Learn to use steamdb:
https://steamdb.info/app/924980/
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>>737181841
You could've just said "Yes" or "No" instead of a site that bitches about my browser. In any case it will be on my wishlist and I'll get notified if/when it does.
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>>737183049
Wude!
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>>737164132
Ever since the SNES days. I can only hope every anon's vidya crush will receive such a glow-up in a remake.
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>>737174201
>left wing meme is just repackaged right meme made even mote idiotic
I wish we could do better. Your post doesn't even make sense.
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>>737170060
This retard legitimately can't tell the difference between fanservice and porn, lmao.
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>>737183319
noice enlightened m8
my favorite kevin class along with god hand
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more art of the character as specific classes?
I can offer this starlancer Lise
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>>737131134
Sure thing, Hasheem.
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>>737121668
>dechi!
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>>737183662
Nah, the other anon is spouting some bullshit.
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>>737183683
The best thing the remake did was to give everyone /fa/ as fuck outfits for all of their classes.
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>>737168042
>Sex
>Yes, please
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>>737183802
Mostly got lewd or lewdish fanart of the non-standard character art.
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Trials Thread?
Trials Thread.
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they are princesses
they are the cutest and sexiest friends
so much potential in a lise & angela game
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top tier
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>>737186772
is there any mana girl from a different game that can compete with them?
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>>737187161
Primm can give em a run for their money
Mana Girls pretty good.
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>>737187161
I mean, if you are one who consorts with beasts...
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>>737181571
i have a thing for purple/pink haired girls
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Is this game worth playing? I remember initially being put off by you needing to pick your 3 characters of the 6 to make your party basically making so you'd need to play the game 3 times to see everything.
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>>737187328
playing through SoM again I noticed how hilarious Primm is
she's the brave one taking initiative and never taking any shit
like, she has all the guts and heart to be the main hero but she just isn't
I just thought it was funny
also Primm cute
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>>737186772
Vanadis Lise love
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>>737121668
Should I buy Tales of Mana? Is it fun?
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>>737187729
yeah she a cutie patooie
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>>737187994
its pretty fun yeah. Simple and straightforward but doesnt fuck around with unecessary bullshit while being pretty lenient.
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So how does the multiple protagonist thing work? I know they're kind of paired off so you have 1 pair per storyline but what happens say if you don't pick the protagonist you chose's partner?
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>>737183802
I only save Kevins. The official artist uploaded reference drawings for all characters, though, those are pretty nice. https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/81587926
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>>737127223
You can see the entire model.
>>737125171
That "censorship`" is another falseflag. Notice how everybody in the party dissapears
>B-but why??!
So you can see the sky or higher ground places, you know, a feature of exploration.
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>>737188186
Characters are 'paired' in that there's three different antagonist factions (spread between Duran/Angela, Kevin/Charlotte and Hawkeye/Riese) which determines what endgame you get. If you bring the matching character, they'll get lines for their shared antagonists where applicable. Outside of that, there's little character interactions in certain areas depending on what characters you have, regardless whether they're part of the main pair.

If you don't pick the matching character to your main, they'll just show up as an NPC for relevant events in their home country but will be absent outside of that.
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>>737121668
>woman
Uhh she's a teenager?
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Touch fluffy tail
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>>737188183
Hag Lise and Angela...
Mommy Lise and Angela...
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>>737187729
Too bad the actual game plays like ass.
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All of the three final dungeons are pretty cool
Dark Castle has the best lore but but Mirage Palace is my favorite overall
I love the concept of this magical, evil palace hidden deep inside a jungle
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>>737188513
So outside the few dialogue additions the only real deciding factor is which protagonist you pick? Thanks anon. I probably will use the pairs for each playthrough just for the sake of consistency.
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>>737188938
Dark Castle as basic as it sounds is just too fuckin Kino.
Everything about it is awesome.
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>>737187161
>yfw these two bombshells just casually waltz into your house saying they need a ride to Forcena
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>>737189192
seeing part of the castle foundations as you go through the cave of darkness in the original was kino
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NPCs
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>>737121932
I don't give a fuck they deserved it after pandering to furfaggots.
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https://streamable.com/e90hjy
Obligatory
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>>737121932
I mean it was just a worse version of Trails with nothing really unique or interesting added to set it apart so it's understandable why it flopped. The character designs were also pretty terrible compared to other games.
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>>737183319
>>737183683
>>737184602
Kevin was the GOAT.
Well, beast.
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>>737189632
>the slow dance for Charlotte
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>>737125171
Seeing under a girl's skirt adds to the fun. I know zoomers cannot comprehend sex appeal being, well, appealing, but that doesn't make your prudence universally true.
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>>737189956
cute
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>>737137543
>Riesz becomes a Pirate because she Zoro's herway to the pirateship.
How fitting.
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>>737162071
I mean the death of this studio doesn't just mean that Mana is dead. This series has been getting tossed around for its entire lifespan.
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>>737189632
>https://streamable.com/e90hjy
Everyone says "Yome" to Rieze, right? Kinda hard (for me) to tell.
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>>737171863
Eh, she was fine enough. Was enough of a dork young Mrs Howell while being regally pleasant.
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>>737190274
>>737137543
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>>737190367
yeah they say say wife in unision.
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>>737190367
yeh, it's yome (bride)
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>>737131041
I'm pretty sure lacking the ability to control your urges is more indicative of mental retardation than the opposite, but you do you man. If you have to hide from the panties because your erection will jump out of your pants and start stroking itself against your hands to completion with no input from your own sapient self, that sounds like a personal problem.
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>>737190431
those thighs were the best thing about VoM
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>>737158795
My biggest gripe with visions was how unbalanced the classes were and the pace in which elements to unlock classes were doled out. You play a long stretch with just the moon and wind element to pass around, and moon happens to just unlock a bunch of so-so classes on everyone except for the cat boy, on him it unlocks the most busted DPS class in the game that can achieve 100% crit rate and stronger crits super early. This means you end up with just wind to swap between The MC and the dragon girl for flavor while the caboy absolutely tears shit up. Then you unlock the water element, which is stacked with good classes for everyone and highly contested for the rest of the game. After a few dungeons with three elements at your disposal, the story fast tracks you to unlocking the rest of the elements, with little time to experiment with them. I feel like the story was changed at the last minute, and a character might have been cut. Fire should have been and early element unlock, possibly the first.
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>>737190579
>lacking the ability to control your urges is more indicative of mental retardation
Like the Mudkipz guy?
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>>737127991
>Im too much of a literal monkey and must give in to urges, if I dont immediately touch my microdick when aroused I cant concentrate, and then when I touch myself and cum, my Test plummets to such low levels that I lose all motivation to do anything fun.
What an unbelievable cope lmfao. First off, by this logic every time you walk down the street and see some girl in booty shorts, you should be like "ARRRRGH I MUST FAP NOOOOOOOOOW OR ELSE I CANT CONCENTRATE" and beat off in public or try to rape her. You probably dont do this judging off the second part of your statement and are coping, but if you do, then you are an impulsive monkey and not the norm. Therefore you shouldnt be lecturing anyone on this and are basically subhuman since you apparently lose all higher thought processes by seeing something slightly titilating.
As for suddenly no longer wanting to play somwthing that was fun after you climax, this is indicative of extremely low test levels. This tells me that you are either a habitual gooner LARPing as being anti fanservice out of some misguided guilt, or you are an incredibly fat fuck that eats garbage and doesnt exercise while getting barely any sleep. Or both. In which case, get off of 4chan and start eating healthier and hit the gym, you incredible tub of lard.

Seriously, imagine being so fucking dumb that you self own this hard
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>>737190656
They were pretty good.
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>>737172395
A FUCKING SPROUTLING?
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>>737191486
yeah
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In the mood for an oldschool style action RPG. Should I play this or Ys Oath of Felghana?
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>>737186772
Vanadis panties and pantyhose...
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>>737181571
I can't believe they gave her such great legs under her dress for no reason whatsoever, lol.

Also, she has a game, but it's not very good.
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>>737171863
Even so, I'm legally obligated to want to fuck the water squirrel.
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>>737191915
Ys games are ARPG
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>>737192114
Is this not an ARPG?
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>>737125549
Middle child is a boy
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>>737138703
>>737162946
Cute shota
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>>737188598
So a woman.
>n-noooo she cant be-
Women are done developing physically around 15-16ish.
>b-but mental capacity
If you can do calculus and drive a car, you are intelligent enough to know if you want to fuck. If we were actually worrying about mental faculties, the age of consent would need to be 25 or above due to your brain not being fully developed until then or even later
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>>737191915
Felghana is more action, Trials is more RPG, especially the original Seiken 3 1995 where most attack skills and most spells literally cannot be dodged and must be tanked. I think some characters eventually learn spells that nullify damage once, so that's something to consider if that fact irritates you and you don't like healing.
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>>737188598
Shantae is 16-
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>>737192147
More like atb with character movement. What I meant with ARPG on the YS is that the game is pretty fast paced. at least on the oldest ones(not the 16bit and lower ones)
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>>737192429
>>737192471
I see. I do plan on playing both. I already bought both of them so it's more I'm deciding which to play first. I think I'm more in the mood for action at the minute since I just recently finished Octopath Traveler 0 so I'll play Ys then Trails. Thanks for the answers anons.
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>>737192073
I have to wonder what the Visions team were thinking. Not because the races they made were bad, but they seemed out of place.
>hmm water town/palace, should we make some amphibian or fish people? Nah, let's put in a bunch of squirrel folk with big bushy tails.
>hmm a mountainous desert town, should we make some rockfolk, thin-haired mammals, lizards, birds, or maybe insectoid folk? Nah, let's put in a bunch of cat-people with thick ass fur.
I'm sure it gets weirder since I am only half-way, but goddamn they should have taken more cues from legends or something.
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>>737191915
>Ys Oath of Felghana
It's an old school game in the sense that you NEED to learn the patern of each boss to defeat them and you need decent reaction times for some of them, unless you're playing on very easy.
It's also the hardest Ys btw, I wouldn't recommend it if you don't have patience.
ToM if very easy in comparison and is a pretty chill game.
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>>737125171
Anon, you wont change anyone's mind in here, just so you know. People here will just proudly say "i masturbate to videogame girls" and "i love to check girls underwear, and thats the reason i play videgoames" and you wont manage to shame them for it. In real life it would, but not in here.
You will just have to cope with the "muh censorship" posts and just let them be.
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These are the same guys that made the saga remake, aren't they? It shows.
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>>737192867
>hardest Ys
I'm sold. Thanks anon.
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>>737193864
>muh censorship
Except that it's a fact, no matter how much you downplay it.
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>>737172395
I loved that dump sprout and his songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxbj9klP8Mc
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>>737193864
>In real life it would, but not in here
Don't you find it sad that the average anon has more to fear from society for fapping to anime girls than the average fat fuck in the files despite fucking real children and recording themselves doing so?
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>>737193864
Tranime slaves are inherently unreasonable and detached by reality (their own intention)
But you'll realize that this is all they have
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>>737194321
I loved how casual he was about the whole thing. Treating the elemental spirits and the Goddess like old drinking buddies he hasn't seen in a while, hundreds of years of solitude just being a nice quiet period to compose some silly songs, the end of the world just being shit that can happen. He was great.
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>>737121668
>want to replay it
>remember my first party was all 3 girls
>if I want new content I have to play as 3 dudes
Maybe I'll go play Visions...
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>>737125171
>>737193864
>>737195230
>retarded tourist faggots upset they can't bully people out of things like they do on Twitter.
kek
Get lost cunts
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>>737195498
>not playing as the three bros having a cool adventure
What are you, gay?
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>>737124896
Most Japanese games have been like this since the ps2 era. Why did incels only start complaining about this recently?
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>tranime
imagine (You)ing shartyteens
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>>737195814
>one of the dudes is a literal nigger furfaggot
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>>737195498
Who was the protagonist in your all girls run?
You could literally just pick a male protagonist from a different story line (you get a new focus on the story, new content) and pick 2 female companions, then pick different class paths for them (new skills and all that, new content)
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>>737196048
I know right, he's a dumb retard who ungas the whole game into submission, it's great
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>>737195230
You unironically don't belong there.
Fuck off back to leldit or something.
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>>737195868
Literally false, lying faggot.
Even fucking SE would put casual fanservice in their games at the time.
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>>737196356
do ff12 next
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>>737196132
In term of story:
Angela>Riesz>Charlotte
It's just my opinion but I always felt the Charlotte/Kevin story to be the weakest one.
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>>737125171
you are gay
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>>737193864
sounds like you should go back, tourist.
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>>737196504
FF12 actually lock the camera so you can't get shots from below.
You can still trick it to get a shot at Ashe's black void and again, the models don't disappear like they do in VoM.
btw, in FF10-2 you actually have pantsu and many camera angle to show them.
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>>737196048
yea he was inspired by your dad
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>>737197385
kek
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>>737195868
>Most Japanese games have been like this since the ps2 era.
What PS2, hell also PS3 games did that?
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>>737121932
It was alright, but the story became pretty mid 40% in.
Trials is still superior
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>>737197385
My cute and beautiful daughter
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>>737121932
Sad this game was straight up sent out to die.
Studio announced dead a week or two before release, had like no marketing before release, and came out right after Wukong.
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Faerie a cute.
I would die for her
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>>737198346
Trials didn't have much marketing either, they probably assumed Visions would sell the same way because SE are retarded.
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>>737121668
Is Angela's 3D game actually worth playing?
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>>737189501
Mana has always had furry characters you fucking idiot
>Kevin
>Legend of Mana
>Based racist bunny merchant
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>>737198458
I actually cried a little or at least had to hold back my tears (can't remember which) when she "died". I've beaten Seiken Densetsu 3 a couple of times with my brother but I couldn't really remember the ending.
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>>737189638
>Trails
What does it have to do with that series at all? Also Falcom makes nothing but slop these days
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>>737195868
>(((They))) are trying to memoryhole fanservice now
Grim.
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>>737198916
You know I meant Trials anon
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>>737198931
>all industries hate the male gaze

When men finally rise up and the jews, gays, and women tell us to save them, we will say "No."
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>>737189501
Retard
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>>737199057
>sees a round ass
>mind IMMEDIATELY goes to "m-muh blacks..."
Mind broken
And no, "merely pretending" doesn't cut it here, you are fucking stupid.
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>>737192246
>>737192181
>>737168495
Cute and true
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It hurts me greatly that the Secret of Mana remake was mobile game-tier
I know I can just replay the original again, but I would have loved it if it got a fun, soulful remake like SD3
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>>737125171
so you are saying i shouldn't fuck a woman because if it was fun i wouldn't be horny, ???
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>>737199257
No point even replying to him. He's a known shitposter who spams this shit in every thread with any sign of ass. Wouldn't surprise you to learn he's also unironically Indian and has a blacked cuckold fetish.
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>>737128042
why does this looks so much better than OP's webm, i thought it was a 3ds remake or something
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>>737197109
hey shut up my dad was never cool
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>>737193969
what saga remake
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>>737163007
>>737174437
Best girl.
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>>737199860
Revenge of the Seven, Remake of RomSaGa 2
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>>737200012
holy shit how have i not heard of this up until now
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>>737199587
kek
Figures...
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>>737199257
We do a little bit of trolling around here.
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>>737198603
It got into Smash as Spirits at the very least. Sakurai telling people it exists is something.
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So with the studio being closed is Mana as a series basically dead now?
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>>737197079
>Black void
No, Ashe has red underwear. Especially noticeable in areas where the floor glows, like the Great Crystal.
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>>737201019
SE used the money Trials remake surprisingly made to help make a game centered around Kamala Khan and invest in NFT's.
You tell me.
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>>737201019
The gacha SE made in an attempt to milk the serie after Trials success failed because SE REALLY can't into gacha and the chinese investor pulled off from the studio after seeing Wukong's success and SE wasn't interessed in keeping it alive.
So basically, yes.
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>retreading low level area to reach a Benevodon
>Angela unleashes Ancient Curse on enemies we can literally kill with one light attack now
This woman is dangerous...
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>>737201019
Unfortunately, this series is so cursed I swear.

>>737200012
Still need to check these out, series filtered me when I was a teenager.
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>>737202154
As a guy who keeps getting filtered by Saga games, the Romancing Saga 2 remake is super accessible for a Saga game. Can recommend.
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>>737201019
the only thing we are getting is Riesz in the Elliot game
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>>737121932
Pirate the game and there are mods fixing the "characters vanish in the air"
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>>737126981
Gachas are dead in Asia. Outside of Genshi, ZZZ, Wuwa, Infinity Nikki, Arknights, what other you know?
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>>737188769
>filtered by not being able to mash one button to win
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>>737203037
You can literally take a look at /vg/ and /vmg/ for that...
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>>737203037
Horses are dead now?
Couldve sworn the power of MAMBO still held strong?
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>>737138703
TUINKURU RAIN DECHI
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>>737201019
It's not dead it's just going back into stasis.
>>737201313
Don't forget the Legend of Mana anime as well.
I really want to know what they were thinking with that
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>>737190656
>find her really really really really cute and sexy
>as a moral code, only allow girls from games I've played to be up for consideration of my favorites
>I dislike just about everything I've seen/heard from her game
Sorry, squirrel queen, it's not your fault
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>>737200208
It's pretty great
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>>737205017
Its not a bad game at the least, a solid 7.
Pick it up when its cheap.
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https://www.fanbox.cc/@kanade1631/posts/11758962
https://litter.catbox.moe/2xzente05n7biwz4.jpeg

>>737205082
i cried during the ending.
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i'm aware the GBA and DS mana games were terrible but can we get a collection? also dawn of mana needs a remaster or port. Echoes of Mana should have been a musou.
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>>737205146
No, he should pirate it instead.
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>companies are unironically trying to memory-hole fanservice
for what reason would they be doing this
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>>737200012
it's kind of a gutpunch once you learn the Seven Heroes never got their revenge due to the Hierophant and his people leaving to another dimension thousand years ago.

romancing saga 3 remake when? i should probably play the remaster. I kind of miss Re;Universe and I did hear they're under a new story now? Also DQ Tact is doing a collaboration with Re;Universe and it has Aselleus, Final Emperor (M), Jo (the protagonist of Re;Universe), and Katarina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVRbxXC0Bt4
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>>737205546
Sword and Children aren't bad.
Heroes is pretty ehhhhhhh though.
And yeah a Children re-release would be nice it'd be cool doing multiplayer with you guys
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>>737205571
Because you have people who are more retarded and should never have had any power in gaming controlling how games are made.
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I hate killing monsters in Mana games, they are all so cute...
You can't tell me this little critter deserved to die, he was just minding his own business.
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>>737206636
Mana needs a monster raising/breeding game.
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>>737205546
Children's ok if kinda boring.
Sword was eh. Heroes is bad and makes no sense
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>>737190656
Princess...
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>>737206785
You can play legend of mana for that
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>>737206920
is it me or did they just drop the whole concept regarding that lucifer equivalent of the mana goddess. what was her name again? all the universes are connected via the tree or something. Pretty sure Secret of Mana ends with no magic existing and Trials has to wait a 1000 years. Adventures of Mana is bittersweet, alongside Sword of Mana that introduced characters from other games. Honestly the whole girl becomes a tree concept needs to be dropped.
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>>737206785
You mean like a Dragon Quest Monsters type of deal or more like a farming sim with monsters?
Either way, FUND IT
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>>737207343
thanks for contributing friend
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>>737207343
Wait a minute...
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>>737207449
...what?
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>>737154392
The mana game on PS2 is even worse.
>some orphan kid lives with his not gf in the forest
>one day the gubmint marches into it with tanks
>he correctly assumes they're after his girl, so he takes up arms to protect her
>???
>she gets kidnapped anyway, but he gets a flying onahole and a club/sword thing growing on his arm in return
>kills absolutely everyone he once knew because the villain possesses them
>then she possesses his gf and he's forced to kill her
>his fairy tells him that it's ok because its what his gf would have wanted and she'll stay by his side forever
>fairy tells him to stop at the very last second
>she manages to eject the evil witch out of the girl's body, but then she fuses with her and the sword because this is a prequel to the entire series
>the kid doesn't even get to say goodbye properly, as the girl and fairy fade away before he's able to reach them
>then the sprites explain that the plan was always getting the girl to fuse with the fairy so a new goddess could be born, and the kid was just a useful idiot
>to rub salt on the wound, the ending is ambiguous and the kid's fate is never told, but the last thing you see is the tree collapsing on him
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>>737203328
Nah, the way to beat the game is magic spamming and it's still shit.
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>>737207595
I'm getting a little weirded out...
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>>737207595
>that initial head tilt
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>>737207596
jesus christ. why does this even exist. who the hell wrote this? no wonder Seiken Densetsu started dying post Legends.
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>>737207696
i can't imagine why...
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daily reminder hawkeye has the hots for his step aunt
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>but the last thing you see is the tree collapsing on him
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>>737207929
can't really blame him
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I think Echoes of Mana should have been in place of Visions of Mana. speaking of Mana, what was Rise of Mana and why did it have collaborations?
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>>737207210
>is it me or did they just drop the whole concept regarding that lucifer equivalent of the mana goddess. what was her name again?
you mean Anise?
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>>737207343
well what I posted:

>>737185310
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>>737208117
>Echoes of Mana
>Rise of Mana
I keep mixing these two up
They are... mobile games? or something? I forget.
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>>737208183
yeah they were gachashit.
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I did not care for Legend of Mana.
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>>737207929
step?
She's his mom's sister.
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why can't mana games stop being depressing. i much rather have chrono break at this point. it's funny Maru island spun off final fantasy iv, secret of mana, and chrono trigger.
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>>737154392
The tragedy in the Earth area was all his fault, he's the cause of all his own issues.
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>Duran's story makes the most sense he finishes it beginning to end and also has a meeting with his father.
>Angela is about rescuing her mother from the darkness and edgelord
>charlotte wants to save heath and heath dies if you dont have her in your team.
>kevin's story abruptly stops the minute karl or whoever the dogs name was comes back and beats his rival (who turns into a baby).
>riesz just drops the minute her brother elliot is spared and has no reason to continue
>hawkeye avenges his friend against isabella, but the same with riesz and hawkeye, nothing develops afterwards.

Honestly the Dark Lord and Lich are kind of shit. The Dragon Lord was probably the best. Duran-Angela-Charlotte.
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lick it
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>have to replay the game several times to acquire every single skill, weapon, and item.
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>give charlotte's parents unique models
>the mother is hot
>the dad is some knight
>only used for two or three scenes.
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>>737208995
the anime sucked
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>>737209105
I liked parts of it but holy fuck, that ending... and the whole antagonist thing.
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>>737208321
What story arcs in Legend of Mana insisted upon itself
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>>737209242
Need more art of Faeire
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charming game
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Exactly what level of intelligence do you think these things have?
Just asking for no particular reason.
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>>737208606
Angela's Mom is saved early as well if you dont choose her or Duran as leads. No learning that Loki = DK also and hes just the postgame fight they added.
Kevin's is really the only one that isnt dropped/solved early if not chosen since he also wants to kick his dad's ass for allowing Karl to die.
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>>737210297
Not high if Riesz is any indication.
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>>737210856
I wish I was a Pakkun Lizard...
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just putting alternate story arc routes in was amazing thing at the time because the original is an old game. the remake just faithfully adapted it. the industry is just way more advanced nowadays and there's nothing amazing about those half-realized alternate routes. and then you had an OP evil witch banished to the nether-realm on top as the secret ultimate boss.
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>>737209670
Probably the Jumi and the awkward love triangle ones.
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>>737124896
If you buy the game, do you get to have a peek?
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>>737200012
I didn't play it because I'm smooth brained and any JRPG that has any kind of potential soft locking stresses me out
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i like her voice
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Do you guys think we'll get a Secret re-remake?
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>>737212567
hopefully.
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>>737212659
I love Primm
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giving Angela a valley girl voice/attitude was the single greatest decision is gaming
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>>737171863
personalityfags should be removed
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I want to make a mana-like, what aspects of the secret of mana remake made it shit?
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IT'S TOO GROSS AND DARK IN THIS CAVE
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imagine a mana game where the MC is a fariy
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>>737212567
they deserve better
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>>737213213
make it multiplayer, it's insane that they didn't keep that part of the original in.
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>>737189067
NTA but yeah pretty much. Haven't played through all of them but Angelas MC arc was pretty damn good.
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10/10 thread
10/10 character design
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the sun and moon are always locked in the same position
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>>737214187
I HATE evil women
However...
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Best remake ever simply because it saved Angela's popular and turned Trials from "the game with Riesz" into "the game with Angela".
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>>737214187
its a shame belladonna was only on the hawke and riese path, she's one of the best catwomen in any media
its not well known outside of japan, but the cultural impact of deedlit and riese is astronomical, they're the archetype for every anime elf thats appeared for decades

>>737214403
yeah the magic bug being fixed would have been enough, but they also made her the OP character instead of Kevin, it definitely wasnt a bad choice, assuming it was at least a little bit intentional
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>>737214403
they made riesz's face look too chubby in the remake, she's supposed to be an onseesan type
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We should have a Magical Girl & Leotards General on this board. There appear to be many leochads among us.
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>>737215245
Now she's a chubby oneesan
Win-Win
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>>737121932
I love Careena so much
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>>737125686
Fuck I gotta play elliot now
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>>737215767
there's a lot of good picks for mascots from years ago too (this series included)
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>>737209609
I am the opposite, I thank god every day I was not born in the US so I dont have to worry about niggers or pay ginormous amounts over healthcare or the woke culture or literally all the horrible shit over there.
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>>737188769
I think Secret of Mana would've been great if the magic system was changed to being more enchantment based. Playing multiplayer sucked because casting spells always paused the combat, but not using spells you usually got wrecked.
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>>737213213
They kept the shitty ass pause-to-do-actual-damage aspect from the original. Magic balance is still dogshit, and invulnerability while magic is in effect is retarded and broken, both for the player and the enemies. Charge attacks are fucking dogshit, make it more like SD3/Trials where you build up a meter over time. Don't make it a grindy piece of shit either, I fucking hate that about Secret versus both FFA and Trials. Just have magic fucking work, I don't want to grind to make it "not shit". Also, don't be retarded about item limits. 4 is too few, 9 can kinda work if battles are long/hard enough, but a good medium might be 6 or 7 (SHUT THE FUCK UP), depending on how many people are in the party and how effective items are.
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>>737126118
>Tried slopping some images of her and her human form being in a threesome
>mfw i see the results
Her human form is really underrated, and i feel like this combo was a genuine pandora's box for me... Such a shame its so niche that there's zero actual art of it.
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Okay I'm gonna start with Secret of Mana and plan to beat the rest of the remakes, wish me luck.
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>magic is pretty fucking good in the remake
so where does charlotte stand viability-wise in that version? is she still just as nice to have in the filler slot as ever?
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>>737217026
catbox it
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>>737216653
If you wanna break the game in half, get the Midge Mallet and use it on Popoi. It shortens cast times AND cast cooldowns so you can absolutely wreck most bosses.

Outside of that, there are so many shitty quirks with the gameplay. My most hated is probably the existence of the invisible tether that keeps your three party members from wandering off-screen. In theory, it's a fine mechanic, but in practice, it leads to the game's dumbass AI constantly getting stuck around stairs and walls, which is particularly problematic in combat areas.
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>>737162995
This is literally just a painting so no.
Visions of Mana however has incredibly beautiful 3d scenarios comparable to this in vibes
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>>737210772
Kevin is also pissed at his dad for kinda brushing aside his mom. He acts like "yeah whatever" although ironically, he cares quite a bit about her and Kevin (and to an extent, Karl, since he dug him back up). He just has a shit way of going about things since that's how he was raised, and yet, he also knows that Kevin is the one who can make things right in ways that he can't, since he basically makes it clear in the post-game that he could just kick the shit out of pretty much anyone if he really wanted to, but it would just be him who is feared/respected, not his kingdom, and not his lineage. Due to racism suffered against the werewolf-people in the past, he also wanted to show the rest of the world that his people were not to be pushed around any more. This could be a more interesting plot point if they expanded on it more, but unfortunately they didn't, and the Beast King just comes across as a self-made villain with tertiary-at-best good intentions.

Also, people forget that Kevin's villain isn't just his dad, but DeathJester as well, who manipulated Karl to attack Kevin but also his father into entering the fucking 3 way war to begin with, even if the Beast King was like "man, fuck that slimy snake bastard" in the end (despite also using DeathJester for his own ends).
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>>737207343
>>737207595
Holy KINO
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>>737174201
Its like how they can post a random tweet from a they/them with 2 likes and 1 retweet as "evidence", but if you bring up Catturd, Endwokeness, Libsoftiktok or even Asmongold

>Literary who??? I don't follow random e-celebs!
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>>737217093
>the game's dumbass AI constantly getting stuck around stairs and walls, which is particularly problematic in combat areas.
It's been so long I forgot about that, but yeah that REALLY fucking sucked.
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>>737216547
Chud logic would make you: A) surrounded by muslims or indians B) You ARE the muslim or indian C) You ARE the mexican/brown.
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>>737217383
Why are you bringing up random ecelebs, some of whom are far left
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>>737217595
Like who mentioned there?
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>>737216653
Secret of Mana was rushed because you had to get weapon orbs in the last game dungeon through rare drops.
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Does she really need that much ass
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>>737201019
Mostly yes; all it depends on is if SE can find a studio that isn't retarded like Ouka was. That's a tall order because SE is kinda retarded as well. I wouldn't mind if Studio xeen took over again but they'll probably be busy working on another SaGa game. Chinks aren't pouring money into Japanese devs anymore so SE will either have to wait for some old boomer to make another studio (not likely) or reach out to some already existing companies. The question is: who?
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>>737218082
Mana is stored in the ass.
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>>737217048
She can be good at buffing (elemental-weapon spells mostly)/healing on light, with some attack spells. She gets some mid as fuck attack spells on dark, but also dark curse on Necromancer (lowers all attributes on one enemy, guaranteed). On Warlock / Evil Shaman she gets Dispel Magic / Anti Magic which nullifies any buffs and elemental-sabers on one enemy and Fetid Breath / Demon Breath which deals dark (or is it fire?) damage to a large group, but also lowers their magic attack and defense. In the remake, more notably, Charlotte has some damn useful passive abilities, some of which can be shared among other allies. But even among those that can't, they make her better at her jobs, such as light-side making elemental-weapon buffs cast by her deal more damage than normal, letting her heal your party past their max HP limit, sometimes lowering an MP cost to 0 (good before post-game). Dark-side gets some nice ones as well, including a chance for power-attacks to cause ailments (sleep-chance is guaranteed on dark side, which is nice in itself, but Necromancer has a petrify-chance which is instant-death on anything not immune to it. Very nice considering Hawkeye is the only other character who can inflict instant-death-chance-on-power-attack with his passive.), Warlock / Evil Shaman has passives that give a chance to deal random debuffs on power-attacks, as well as passives to deflect debuffs back, and also some that debuff enemies just for being equipped, and those don't count towards the debuff limit, letting you weaken them even further.
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>>737215767
Sounds good to me
Leotards are the giga-patrician's fetish of choice
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>>737207595
>anons still posting .webms from videos i made back in 2020

Nice.
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>>737215767
of course
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leotardchads... we keep winning
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>>737219424
modern SE would think twice about any new girl like it
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>>737217069
Alright.
https://files.catbox.moe/d63bgs.png
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I am really sory if i soured the thread with this slop, folks
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>>737189632
> Ange Ero
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>>737219513
Don't post my wife on 4chan.
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>>737207596
Fucking fairy man
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>>737219513
the better final fantasy times
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>>737220739
>Rosa Rydia Porom
>Lena Faris Krile
>Terra Celes Relm
>Angela Lise Charlotte
We didn't know how good we had it, did we?
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>>737221541
>We didn't know how good we had it, did we?
sad but true
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>>737214403
Riesz's problem is her storyline resolves first and she gets to do fuck all for the rest of the game if she's not one of your chosen characters.
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>>737219838
So this is the power of the Vandole empire... truly evil...
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so judging by the trajectory of Visions (and frankly a lot of recent Action JRPGs) will the next mana game be fully open world?
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>>737221719
She also has to get back at the fuckers who shitsacked her kingdom. Granted, if she's not in your party, that's a big "well, fuck". That said, by the time the 3 main powers converge, shit gets resolved in some degrees anyways.
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>>737222149
BUNDESLIGA
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>>737222061
The next Mana game was a GB-DMG romhack. And a decent one, honestly. Not particularly "great" and, upon reflection, has some aspects that keep it from being "good". But still pretty solid all things considered.
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>>737125549
Rabite Slippers are so very cute!
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>>737126118
Who would’ve thought a game like Trials of Mana would have its own Krystal.
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>>737145640
Need fanart of Carlie- I mean Charlotte spanking Angela like the bad girl she is.
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>>737148660
This would make for great fanart with this pic in the top left or right of said fanart as the inspiration.
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>>737221541
unfortunately so
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>>737162995
Timeless, SNES games were so beautiful
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>>737221541
indeed
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>>737163007
>>737174437
>Would

Wood
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>>737179087
I liked when characters changed hair colors along with their class, except for Paladin Duran here which was a missed opportunity to reference FF4 Paladin Cecil with beautiful white flowing hair.
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>>737222959
leochads keep winning
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Sad to see this thread hit bump limit, this was a fantastic thread, and thanks for informing me of this remake, it is definitely on my radar now.
>>737222365
Oh I will when it hits my threshold.
>>737223081
Yeah I liked that; usually I'd save before class change and choose the class based on how I liked the sprite. I liked fanart of Fenrir Knight more than the in-game color but I still liked her style as that class the most.
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>>737223081
Cecil was too busy fixing his bazooka in Evermore to get referenced.
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>>737121668
>never could finsih this game becasue it would glitch out on the Ps4 version during the end game plant boss

Fuck starting over from scratch
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>>737223442
Weird, I wonder what happened. I don't recall any major issues on my PS4, but thee might have been a bug or two I forgot about. Disc condition?
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>>737174034
If it takes you more than 10 minutes to setup Emudeck then you might be legit retarded.
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>curvature hit bump limit
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>>737223795
the power of mana is truly infinite...
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i am in love with angela's mother
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>>737224109
why are zoomers so afraid of these type of images? they make me happy every time i see nice piece of art. oh well their loss for being obsessed with puritans.
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I think this is her?
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>>737222432
i mean sierra exists
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>>737224356
Beautiful...
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see you next seiken densetsu
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>>737210143
I'd repeatedly slam Angela into that barrier when I played as her in SD3 for the sprite animation.
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>>737224485
That's it, I'm reclassing her to this...
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was a good thread gentlemen.
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>>737224628
das it mane
das it
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imagine a DQ Builders version of seiken densetsu
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>echoes of mana artbook not scanned online anywhere
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