There should be a game where you go through the space marine recruitment process
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>>737143725>the space marine recruitment processWhich one? Recruitment isn't standardized among the space marines.
>>737143725that sounds retarded and not fun. can you find the nearest doctor at a hospital and have them mri your brain?
>>737143725What process? They literally retconned the scouts. Primashits all wear power armor since day 1.
>>737146091>They literally retconned the scoutsThey didn't. This was just 6 years ago.You still go through all the scouting shit, since scouts are just space marines missing a final few geneseed implants.
>>737146296Cute scout bf...
>>737146573This is him now. Feel old yet?
>>737143725space marine recruitment should never have stopped being rounding up a bunch of hyperviolent gang psychopaths in a hive, brainwashing them and turning them into semi-controlled killing machines.
>>737146792Some of them still do that.
>>737146712so which is it?
>>737143725getting tortured QTE's?
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>>737145338>Which one?the death specters and flesh tearersprolly the black templars
>>737146296tbf that is a comic about Calgar, a character that predates Primaris in the tiimeline
>>737147057>black templarsIf you ask me that's the most boring recruitment process among all of them.>kidnap a bunch of yokels>make them kill each other>throw them in a pit with a critter if they don't>whoever wins gets to be a space marine
>>737143725Some time-skips in a 40k game would be interesting. Gives the player a look at how things changes yet stays the same.But I think it would be much more interesting to play as another space marine chapter than Ultra Marines or Blood Ravens. Something like Blood Angels (learn about the red thirst and Black Rage) or Dark Angels (learn about the fallen) could be fun. There are so much stuff going on with other chapters, including the many successor chapters, but it always seems like they're playing it safe and picking something that won't confuse the player too much. Which is a shame.
>>737147005That one is nowhere near as disproportionate as >>737146712
>>737147153But it still references the necessity of gaining on-site experience as a scout. People act like scouts got retconned when the 10th company still exists. All that's changed in that regard from then vs now is that scouts graduate to become primaris instead of firstborn.
>>737147167blood angels be like>take volunteers>give volunteers boyscout tasks>make remaining volunteers kill each other >stuff the survivors into a casket to be drowned in Sanguinius's blood for a year>shoot the ones who come out as insane vampires
>>737147286That's just shitty art. Space Marines fill out terminator armour except for some lifts in the boots.
>>737147387That just James Stokoe's style anatomy has never been one of his greatest strengths
>>737147175>learn about the fallenWHO TOLD YOU!>game over
>>737147619This little goober told me about them! What the hell are these things anyway?!
>>737147531Pretty sure he's saying that Calgar sitting has the worse proportions. I don't have a dog in this race but imo space marine body shapes really shouldn't be held to the limitations of human bodies because they're pretty much body horror under that skin. By that I mean that one of the things that change about them is that when you become a space marine your ribs expand and fuse together into one solid mass. That isn't even including all the space your body makes inside you to make room for all the extra organs you get like your second heart or the add-on to your brain that lets you selectively make parts of it go get some sleep.
>>737147858How come Dark Angels are the only Space Marines that get an entire cadre of cute not-alien not-warp monster mascot sidekicks?
>>737147858dont question them and don't speak of them.if one is following you around, good things will come of you
>>737147916Everyone else is satisfied with chapter serfs.
>>737143725I agree. You should get shoved in the Daemonculaba and spat out as a new Marine (if you're lucky)!
Pr*maris was a mistake
>>737147858Watchers in the Dark do not speak.They do not even make sound.
Have we ever seen Watchers in the Dark associating with a Dark Angels successor chapter or do they only hang out at Dark Angels HQ?
>>737143725Why do that when you could play any of 100 more interesting 40k settings?
>>737148234they would only hang out at the rock until the big man woke up from his catnap
>>737148234The only watchers left are the ones on the Rock since Caliban blew up.
What kind of 40K game would you like to see?I think an open world shooter, a bit like Space Marine but more open, where you played as eldar could be cool.Let the player pick a different aspect each mission, as his character is trying different paths. You can juggle between them but if you focus on one for 70% of the game you'll end up being locked in as an Exarch, becoming more powerful but unable to leave the path.
grow up nerds
>>737148141Well, this one wouldn't shut up about the fallen. Fallen this, fallen that. Also, he claimed there was a lion sleeping in the basement. What the fuck are these things?
>>737148687Well you see>angry stomps in the distanceAsmodai will explain it to you->"rrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeEEEEPENNNNNNNN"-right away. Hold still.
>>737148385I've recently listen to a traitor guard storyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUV0ZCd7xvAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuog4tdCjDMseems like it could make for something pretty interesting
>Asmodai, famously shitty Interrogator-Chaplain, finally starts getting good at his job>Space Dad wakes up and starts letting the Fallen come homeAsmodai btfo
>>737143725chapter recruitment differs in every single space marine chapter.blue smurf recruitment is boring af.
>>737148982>blue smurf recruitment is boring af.A gauntlet of trials is infinitely more interesting than what >>737147167 said.
>>737143725How about a grey knight recruitment process instead
It would be the video game equivalent of pic rel
>>737148830Reminds me of this great description of life as a traitor marine in the eye of terror.https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/271640-misconceptions-about-csm/page/4/#entry3316051It's a long read but it does describe how, well, chaotic and restless this life is - according to how this one 40k writer sees it.You could make a fun game about being a traitor marine, managing your people, trying to earn favor from the gods and other groups, while avoiding being back-stabbed by your people or brought down by the gods or other groups.
>>737149287>grey knight recruitment processSo only 1 in a 1000 players would make the first trial.. and 665 are left
We need more games with orks. Orks as equally entertaining and brutal characters.
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>>737143725sounds gaygive me ork daycare simulator instead
>>737153261>snotling runtboss simulator
>>737150579>>737153261>>737153350How hardy are ork spores?If orks fought tyranids, lost, and then the tyranids slurped up all the biomass then moved on, would that lead to orks spawning inside a hive ship?
>>737149328Well he's right.
what happens when they need to take a piss / shit while in the suit, do they just shitted themselves?
>>737146880Didn’t he loose his arms and legs while fighting a swarm lord? He became a real human bean.
>>737157296They have a fluid recovery system built into their suits which reconstitutes waste matter into a nutrient paste.
>>737157296Yes, the suits have a waste recycling system. But also their biology is such that they don't need to excrete waste as often as regular humans so it isn't like they need to take a daily shit or constantly piss in there either.
Better idea: Tau-lead humans world fighting Imperium.
>>737158582Even then, with their second stomachs a daily shit is basically a free daily nutrient bar.
>>737143725The whole blood angels recruitment process could be an amazing game by itself, yes. This is not the norm though.From crossing the waste, reaching the cities in the mountains to fly for days while avoiding flying predators to then start your actual recruitment process of training and fighting.Could be some good puzzle survival exploration story driven game.
>>737158919I don't think there would really be much left over nutrition in their shits given their digestive system is able to even extract what little nutrition there is from rocks. There might be some moisture to reclaim from it but that would be about it.
>>737158329Just his arms
Reminder if you give money to Geedubs you are abiding them in killing fan animations
>>737143725How would it be? Would it follow a single neophyte from a specific chapter or would you create your own and pick who you are with? If it’s the former then I would go with Spacewolves since their Aspirants get into the shit faster.
>>737146091They didn't retcon ScoutsScouts are still the same and they receive their final Primaris implants
>>737148385I know there are a few, but an Inqusitor game where you spend most of it investigating it would be cool, bonus points for a campaign where you play as a rando trying to flee said inqusition, additional points for said rando not being associated with any chaos or genestealer shit to mostly serve as a reminder of how cruel the Imperium can be
>>737156335I don't think so, ork spores are hardy as evident by the fact orks can proper up just about anywhere but there are still limits since they can still be burned and disgested
>>737158919funny you mention that since in older lore one of the recruitment/hazing ritual for new Imperial fists was making them eat garbage covered in shit to test out their new organs
>>737159397Based
>>737146880>>737147005>>737147387>>737147862I dont recall which book, but I recall reading that Astartes were supposed to be quite hideous. Their bodies are grossly out of proportion with their heads, swollen muscles, rectangle torsos, equine faces scarred and cratered. It was only more recently I feel they started to make them look more Giga Chad and less Toxic Commando. I prefer the latter to be honest. I like the idea that in-universe the average Imperial perceives the Astartes as saints and create beautification work to elevate their aesthetic (wondrous sculptures and paintings an frescoes). But in reality they're mutated abominations.
>>737143725There would be stages. First is general aptitude where you do physical tasks. Second fighting aptitude where you fight some monsters. Then medical aptitude where you fit puzzles that are your genes refitted, this is where you become a marine. Last is war aptitude where you fight a hord of vermin with the full abilities of a marine.Idk what Space Marines have or need and made this all up. Would be cool if someone made up a better version. Apart for getting mutations, what's the COOL bit about becoming a Space Marine? All the cool bits are after the fact.
>>737143725they get recruited? I thought they were grown from magic superman DNA or some shit
>>737143725>>737147057>>737147167>>737147326>>737149060Red Scorpions are one of the few Chapters whose process isn't completely retarded.>Take a bunch of candidates with the best physical/mental traits.>Do a bunch of tests on them to ensure best genes, as well.>Send away/make serfs of the ones who failed.>Turn those that pass into Space Marines.>"What do you mean Blood Trials? We're not barbarians.">"Having the aspirants kill one another? We're not some Orks.">"Putting them into blood-filled coffins? Are you a servant of Khorne?">"We have the best technology, training, and equipment available, given to us by the God-Emperor. We can make anyone into a Space Marine as long as the raw material is good."
>>737147005>>737164824>>737164824>>737147862As early as the first Horus Heresy novel it's confirmed that regular human women find naked Space Marines to be sexually attractive.An Iterator sees one after showering and immediately thinks about how he'd perform in bed.
>>737167920Not to mention Lukas the Trickster fucks and apparently has kids. But he could just be trolling.
>>737167920>As early as the first Horus Heresy novel it's confirmed that regular human women find naked Space Marines to be sexually attractive.As early as real life it's confirmed that regular* women find dogs and horses sexually attractive.I wouldn't really put much stock in the sexual tastes of people.
>>737167845does the process of making a space marine for them still require breaking everyone bones to make the recruit grow along with the other fucked up shit ?
>>737168983Even if that's the case, they'd do it while the aspirant is in a coma/stasis.The Red Scorpions are extremely efficient and modern in that way, though it stems in a large part due to their arrogance (we are so great we can make a Space Marine out of anyone, so long as the fundamentals are good).
>>737168983Nothing's changed from the lore of the process from back then with regular space marines to the lore of making primaris now. The only difference is there's an extra three geneseed stuffed in a primaris : sinew coils, the amplifier, and the belisarian furnace.
Case in point about the Red Scorpions.>Recruits are drawn from Zaebus Minoris, a small, arid world inhabited by primitive tribes of humans. The tribes' traditions tie into the recruitment process of the Chapter. Missionary Galactica reports that all male infants are presented to their tribes' temple at the first full moon of its life. A few are taken by the "gods" - selected, after stringent genetic testing, by Chapter Apothecaries as potential future Marines. Because these recruits will have had no experience with their parent culture, the Chapter is all these recruits will know.So:>show us every male that is born>test the infants, take the ones with the best genes,>actually raise them as Space Marines/Serfs from the ground up,
>>737169028as expected of loyalist Emperor Childrens
>>737169234>regularly remove the genetically finest specimens from your recruitment poolWon't that inevitably degrade the quality of the population? Like if you don't leave some healthy breeding bulls behind, the future will be full of mouthbreathers.
>>737168790>and apparently has kidsSpace wolves get recruited rather late if the novels are to be trusted. Ragnar Blackmane had some viking pussy the night before the recruitment ship showed up in his village.
>>737169590You only need a handful of people each year, and you have an entire planet to choose from.
>>737147916Perks of being the first. Most terminator suits, most grav vehicles, most plasma, exclusive DAoT weapons, little friends.
>>737147916Because even the inquisition bullies know the second they ask anything they get blown to pieces with plasma fire
Gib Vulkan bek plz.
>>737170475the books unintentionally ruined him, dude kept evading his sons like he owned them money
>>737146091Scouts have a refresh in a Kill Team box. GW is dialing back the Primaris 'aesthetic' to some extent, if at least not to seemingly replace the original SM one entirely.
>>737171770Why do these teenage boys have full moustaches?
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>>737172035They just have a normal level of testosterone.
>>737172035bit of a late bloomer, eh?
>>737172035Not all Scout Marines are teenagers/young men; some of them are actual Space Marines teaching youngins how to be one.Primaris or not they should be way larger than everyone else because they're actual Spess Mehreens.
>>737169590Still better than wasting good genes in what essentially is a gamble. Most space marine selection is based on pure luck, especially shit like what the black templars did.
>>737172035One part of it is what >>737172645 said. Another part of it is that scouts act as a legal loophole in the Codex Astartes. While a chapter isn't supposed to have more than 1000 space marines, scouts aren't considered full space marines by way of their not having all their implants yet. To that end some chapters hold back scouts until they can replenish ranks in a way that's codex compliant, leading to a lopsided number of scouts compared to companies of fully fledged battle brothers.Its not that much different from the ecclesiarchy being banned from having "men"-at-arms so Goge Vandire went and suckered the sisters of battle to be his personal army.
>>737173498Why don't just they just turn everyone into a space marine? Why are they limited to only 1000?
>>737173575Horus Heresy.
>>7371735751000 is the limit thanks to the horus heresy, despite this some chapters break this rule, the black templars for example are att full legion strength
>>737173606So what's stopping Chaos Marines to just shit out thousands of Chaos Marines and completely destroying the Imperium?>inb4 Horus Heresy
>>737173702Taint of the warp makes their geneseed rank. It's why they have to resort to other means to try and replenish their ranks like making a daemonculaba or raiding a loyalist chapter's geneseed banks.
>>737173702Mind you that even with >>737173746 they don't really "need" to replenish their ranks like loyalists do. They're effectively immortal until a chaos god decides it wants to snack on their soul. If you kill them in the real world they just float around in the warp until they can respawn again.
>>737173827The Imperium is really lucky that Chaos is generally incompetent
>>737173992It helps that the Chaos gods all fight each other. It makes it so that the legions that worship them all fight each other as well. Until the time comes for Abaddon to go wrangle the retards for another Black Crusade, anyway.
>>737172035The Sergeant of the squad may be a veteran sergeant which is someone who has reached full Astartes status but elected to remain in the 10th Company to serve and train Scout. They are generally by an large absolute units to be of such ability that they willingly forgo one of the key parts of what makes an Astartes which is the armour and weaponry. That is part of why Cyrus from the DoW games is such a badass as not only a Veteran Sergeant of the 10th but also chose to do so after serving in the Deathwatch. The guy had his choice of postings and said 'Put me in the shit'.
>>737173827>If you kill them in the real world they just float around in the warp until they can respawn again.That's demons and daemon princes. Chaos space marines are still just mortals. When they are dead, they're dead.
>>737174560>That's demons and daemon princes.Tell that to rubric marines, specially the ones that the Eldar fucked over to punk Ahriman.
>>737173498The SoBs were Goge Vandire's personal meat toilets and mothers of his many children until they realized it way too late.
>>737173827How does this work in relation to their wargear?
>>737176561I think that save for certain warbands, the ones that die end up leaving their shit where they died and end up having to bully a dark mechanicus for replacements or something.
Games-Workshop wants to keep it censored so they dont anger transfolk.
>>737176636What's censored about this? The loincloth?
>>737173575>>737173606>>737173684One of the more recent novels, but still prior to the Primarch's return, outright states that the Imperium could be churning out Space Marines by the millions, but the threat of another mass Heresy event is too great.
>>737173827>>737174560Every single mortal that isn't either in the God-Emperor's afterlife or in the actual afterlife (since the Christian God is canon to the setting) can be resurrected by the Chaos Gods at whim.
>>737177627Or those who got soul blasted, like Horus.
>>737177751Even Horus's soul survived. There's a piece in each of the Four God's realms, still toiling at their tests and thinking they're alive, and "The End and the Death" strongly suggests the Emperor isn't done with Horus.
>>737177627>Christian god is canonWhat? Had no idea this was the case.
>>737177853>Horus survivedThat's so fucking dumb when for decades their whole schtick was that emps had to thoroughly delete Horus from existence because a Horus empowered by Chaos undivided was just that great a threat.
>>737177874It isn't.
>>737143725A true rogue-like where you churn through dozens of runs to maybe get one of your peons into the chapter.
>>737177874There was old lore that emps over the centuries tried multiple approaches to try and unite humanity. One of those approaches was religion and it's revealed that every major religious figure (Zeus, Odin, Jesus, Buddha, etc) was him trying to unite humanity through worshipping him. If memory serves right that's been hard retconned and now Emps has been anti worshipping anything from the get go.
>>737177627>the God-Emperor's afterlife or in the actual afterlife (since the Christian God is canon to the setting)Neither if these things are true. Are you retarded? Normal Human souls dissipate almost instantly when they die. Hopefully into the Astronomicon if they're lucky. There is no afterlife unless you're marked by a Chaos God as Daemon fodder.
>>737177874>>737177940It is. The prayer used by Euphratis Keeler to banish a Demon is the exact same prayer used by the priest in "The Last Church" only with the word "God" replaced by "Emperor." And she uses it BEFORE the Heresy begins.Dan Abnett especially strongly suggests that the "God-Emperor" is God possessing the Emperor in some way.>>737178120Another guy who takes all his lore from YouTube. Souls don't "disappear." Unless a deity claims it into its afterlife, it floats through the Warp.That's how, for example, Mortarion was able to grab his step-father's soul from the Warp after he became a Demon Prince.>>737178050That's complete nonsense and present in no canon material. At most it's suggested the Emperor was Matthew, the 13th Apostle.
>>737167028You select the finest of young boys and after playing with them for a while you then fill them with your geneseed. It's very epsteinian.
>>737178198>At most it's suggested the Emperor was Matthew, the 13th Apostle.Nope. At most it's suggested that he's St. George, and the dragon that St. George fought was the Void Dragon.
>play Spehs Mahreen 2>Titus goes through the Primaris surgery>looks the exact same afterwards except for some bolts on his skin>plays the exact same as wellI still don't get it
For me?It’s the Sons of Malice.
>>737178262It was a cunning way of selling the same plastic toys to the same nerds for the 5th time. Kinda like Madden or Battlefield.
>>737178198>Souls don't "disappear." They do. Normal Human souls have almost no permanence in the Warp. They devolve into Warp stuff or are eaten by Daemons.>Unless a deity claims it into its afterlife, it floats through the Warp.>Mortarion was able to grab his step-father's soul from the Warp after he became a Demon Prince.Marked as Daemon fodder
a spess muhrine game where you do that trial in holy terra, the games to try and get to the golden thronethat could be a pvp game that lets you play different factions to defend and assault
>>737173575Until the last few hundred years, Imperium's main danger was a civil war, and adding more independent transhumans to the galaxy wasn't in anyone's interest.
>>737178356I had assumed they would at least be bigger or something
>>737143725I thought they were all bred into the job.
>>737178364>They do. Normal Human souls have almost no permanence in the Warp. They devolve into Warp stuff or are eaten by Daemons.Completely wrong. Good examples are the Gaunt's Ghosts novels that have multiple instances of the souls of the dead appearing before Guardsmen (like one guy's wife who literally comes to wait for him when he's about to sacrifice himself in an explosion).Then you have the aforementioned soul of Mortation's step-father. It took him a 1000 years to track it down.Then there's an old Dark Angels novel where the Navigator is warned by the spirit of his dead mother, which tracked him via the Warp and managed to communicate with him while they were in transit.And then the elephant in the room in the Horus Heresy novels, when the Emperor literally summons an army of spirits to help him with the Demons in the Imperial Webway.
>>737178495No, they're normal humans who get all the super special organs implanted
>>737178391He is bigger. This is Titus in SM1 beside lt. Mira who, on top of being a regular human, is a woman. who on average tend to be shorter than men.
>>737178602But the other dudes in his squad aren't Primaris and he doesn't tower over them
>>737178391>>737178602And this is a space marine in sm2 looming over a male chapter serf and servitor.They are primaris too. There's no firstborn in sm2. Hell, depending on how you look at it, Chairon is either one of the OG primaris that Cawl had in cold storage for 10k years or he's a pre-heresy Ultramarine that Trazyn unleashed when Cadia fell who crossed the rubicon like Calgar since he was there to see Calth get fucked in the ass.
>>737178602yeah but she's a strong and more capable woman than m*n
>>737178717Ah shit. Meant the second half of that response for >>737178646
>>737178517That happens during Warp Shenanigans. None of it's real, nor is it even explicitly her actual soul but his memory of her egging him on.All your other examples are irrelevant because they all involve powerful psykers for whom death and the Warp operates differently. Necare was a sorcer/psyker so his soul persisted. Navigators are also powerful psyker adjacent creatures who already exist halfway in the warp. A powerful psyker being able to create some spirits has no relevance to the idea minor human souls persist.
>>737145338Imperial fists. You will eat ze poopoo
>>737178646All 3 of them are primaris. You can tell by that ugly power armor design.
>>737178717>There's no firstborn in sm2ohwhere'd they all go
>>737178840Crossed the rubicon.
>>737178783OK, so talking with you is pointless, because you'll wave away anything via "hurr durr it's magic" while ignoring examples of regular human souls communicating with living people.Also you are plain stupid in your logic. Necare being a psyker means he would be prime target for demonic predation in the Warp, so if any soul were to be consumed, his would be first in line. There's literally a line where a psyker likens a regular mortal soul in the Warp to a candle, while a psyker's is a roaring bonfire.Stick to your headcanon, though.
>>737178823What do you think of the refresh they're getting?
>>737178198>Dan Abnett especially strongly suggests that the "God-Emperor" is God possessing the Emperor in some way.That's retarded. What The emperor is should remain unknown, even his shaman ritual origin got retconned. Making him to be an avatar of the real God is lame.
>>737180257>What The emperor is should remain unknownBut we know exactly what he is. He's a Perpetual, not even the oldest one of the lot.And I don't mean him being an avatar, just that after he sat on the Golden Throne and became a living corpse, God started working through him.
>>737178646>But the other dudes in his squad aren't Primaris and he doesn't tower over themThat is perspective issue you fucking retard, ofc he looks taller since he is closer to the viewer. Also the two dudes are explicitly stated to be primaris, especially the nigger one who personally saw the burning of calth back in Horus heresy.
>>737178198>Dan Abnett especially strongly suggests that the "God-Emperor" is God possessing the Emperor in some way.Goes to show that even supposedly good authors can have absolutely retarded ideas that should be disregarded entirely.
>>737146091>They literally retconned the scouts.Prolonged Scouting is part of the Raven Guard pipeline
>>737173575The Horus heresy and badab war shows you why they didn't do that.
Any of those "new" games on Steam worth it? I remember always being interested in Mark of Chaos since I read a review in a magazine back then, but never got around to trying it
>>737178198>Dan Abnett especially strongly suggests that the "God-Emperor" is God possessing the Emperor in some way.I am very skeptical of this.
>>737180671Mark of Chaos is pretty good, so is Dark Omen and Shadow of the Horned Rat(but that was is really hard)idk about the 40k games
>>737180130still too many grebles and bits for my liking. Also they should redesign that stupid cylinder thing on primaris bolter gun upper receiver. Idk what it is and I bet not even GW know what it is. It ruins the bolter's iconic rugged look.
>>737179194>Necare being a psyker means he would be prime target for demonic predation in the WarpHe was. Mortarion captures and torments his soul after becoming a Daemon Prince.
>>737180870The newer model showed off doesn't have that Cawl-pattern cylinder on the bolter, which was probably the second-most complained about thing on Primaris.
>>737180781>Dark Omen and Shadow of the Horned RatDo they have hero units that can annihilate entire formations? That's my favorite part of King Arthur: The Roleplaying Wargame
>>737143725Space Marines are fucking boring.
>>737181012What is the sales distribution per army for the models like? I'm a dirty dumb secondary scum but it does seem weird that 90% of the games are about Space Marines
>>737143725Actually there should be a 40K stealth video game in the realm of Splinter Cell: Conviction with the whole concept of aggressive stealth in which you play as a Raven Guard. With reactive cultist enemies who shit their pants in fear as you move through the shadows, shooting into the darkness where they think you are, freaking out as you snatch their teammates away into the shadows one by one. Also it has a synth orchestra butt rock soundtrack using something akin to link related as a base.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_X2TJzsDQA
>>737178529I thought most were clones, ergo the whole geneseed purity thing
>>737180925It took him a 1000 years to find it, though, which means it was wandering the Warp.
>>737181140https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Creation_of_a_Space_Marine#Recruits
>>737180995No, that the player can use outside of wizards and cannons
>>737181171Time isn't a thing in the Warp. Necare was beset upon by a Daemon that tormented his soul after he died. That Daemon was just always Mortarion.
>>737181136>40K stealth video game in the realm of Splinter Cell: Conviction with the whole concept of aggressive stealth in which you play as a Raven Guardit would heavy on Wraith-Slipping
>>737181282You could implement that as literal teleporting between the darkest points, or when there's an extreme amount of noise, or a flash of lightning. Because that's honestly how it's described in the books, they straight up do the Batman vanish and it makes the snipers and scouts of even other Chapters flinch when they do it.
>>737173684>the black templars for example are att full legion strengthNah. They have far more than 1000, but they aren't even close to what the legions were.
The real reason there's small chapters instead of 13 legions is so you can invent your own OCs without breaking the setting
>>737181062Marines sell more than the entire Xenos ranges all combined. Virtually every tabletop player has Marines in some capacity,
>>737172035Scout squads are lead by a veteran sergeant, to make sure the initiates actually get battlefield experience and not die before they can earn the Black Carapace and become full fledged battle brothers.
Damn dude, I had no idea that Mechanicus was so unpopular. That sucks.
>>737182609Space Wolves aren't Space Marines?t. still a secondary
>>737173684The Dark Angels are suspected to still be at legion strength due to how all their successor chapters will immediately answer any call to arms from the DA Chapter Master if he calls for them, which isn't something any other Chapter does.
>>737182609it's mainly because they're one of the most expensive to collect dollar to point cost, one of the weaker armies and one of the hardest to paint
>>737182648Are they Thunder Warriors?
>>737182609Their rules are incredibly bad despite being overly convoluted and badly structured. They're a very expensive army and even if you like Mechanicus lore and arsthetic, a lot of people aren't fond of the Leonardo DaVinci blueprint style of some if their units.
>>737182648space wolves have their own rules and units
>>737182328Anon, there are almost as many Marine armies as there are Xenos combined. That's more of a chicken and egg question of if the Marines sell more because there's more Marine armies to choose from or do the Marines have more armies because they sell more.
>>737182769Aha, so when it says Space Marines that is the generic army where everyone makes his "own" chapter as he wants? What if I buy that army and paint them like Space Wolves?
>>737182609still doing much better than Imperial Agents, a faction of random Kill team slapped together
Everytime I hear the word geneseed, I keep remembering based Vorx killing the white consuls chapter master and destroying their geneseed instead of taking it out of respect for him.
>>737173684The Templar only have 6000 marines at max. Meanwhile a legion contain 100k marines. They are no where a legion's strength.
>>737182648Space Wolves are a Space Marine faction, but aren't the primary Space Marine faction, that still has its own codex. It's not even better now, 7th gave just about ANY Chapter their own little sub-codex you combined with the main Space Marine Codex (because GW is greedy like that) so the Iron Hands got a codex, the Imperial Fists got a codex, the Black Templars got one. If you wanted a 1st founding chapter codex, you likely got one, that's not even counting the Forgeworld Chapters that also got their own separate codex you had to get from Forgeworld separately. It's my opinion that there are too fucking many Marine armies.
>>737182685>their successor chapters will immediately answer any call to arms from the DA Chapter Master if he calls for them, which isn't something any other Chapter does.Almost all of them do this. What makes the Dark Angels weird is that those Chapter Masters come from the Inner Circle of the Dark Angels itself and regularly report directly to Azrael instead of mostly being autonomous.
>>73718260940k admech are boring as shit and expensiveI'd have preferred old forgeworld mechanicum stuff
>>737182781If xenos sold more then there would be more xenos. Instead most 40k players rightfully treat xenos as NPCs.40k is about the Imperium fighting Chaos. It's as simple as that.
okay but only if the guy space marine gets prompted to have memorable 3 way or 5 way shower orgy involving soaping, lathering, rinsing and drying off using only your space marine cock while then being written off as a dream before deployment
>>737183351You're the reason everything is so shit now.
>>737181136>A dishonored like stealth game with various supernatural powers where you play as a mandrakeThat would be cool but obviously won't happen because GW hates anything not marine
>>737182807nothing stopping you from doing that, you don't even have to use the space wolf unqiue rules if you only want to paint them as such but if you use their unqiue units like the wulfen then you have to
>>737183351Chaos wank ruined the setting long before Primaris and I like Chaos.
>>737183480I guess I'm the stupid one for not realizing these additional armies obviously exist to sell you unique models
>>737167920Loken is just that great.
>>737183413>>73718348440k is legitimately at the most profitable and widespread point it has ever been and it's still growing. Marines are quite literally the pillar keeping not just 40k, but the whole of GW alive.Non-Marine factions exist as a luxury for freaks to play as and for Marines to shoot at. You can stick your fingers in your ears all you like, the truth is that 40k is doing better than ever and it's all thanks to Marines.
>>737183651So is McDonald's. Doesn't mean the food is any good.
>>737183148>Lion returns>Inner Circle becomes 2nd tier bitch since the Risen is now daddy's number 1 and takes orders directly from him>Asmodai copes and seethes seeing the Lion can pop up and take redeemable fallen instead of just whacking them to death
>>737183725McDonald's burgers are way overhated. It's the fries you can just throw in the garbage straight away
>>737180363>But we know exactly what he is. He's a Perpetual, not even the oldest one of the lot.Perpetuals were a mistake, I hate reading about them.
>>737183725>Food analogy
>>737183782Just like Marines
>>737183829>main meal (the actual marines units) are great>fries (???) are badWhat are the fries of SMs
>>737183809>NPC response
>>737183797That may be your opinion, but they're hard canon and baked completely into the lore now. They'd literally have to restart the entire Horus Heresy brand to remove them. So they're here to stay.Although I do find it hilarious that all the woes of the Imperium were caused by a woman moment.
>>737183651More like more marines to be shot at since eldar is meta for half of the game's lifetime
>>737183902>Although I do find it hilarious that all the woes of the Imperium were caused by a woman moment.>Introduce a "mother" to the Primarchs for obvious diversity reasons>She's the reason that everything went to shitIt'll never stop being funny.
>>737183904And that's why everyone dislikes Eldar players, because those faggots certainly aren't playing them for the "lore".
>>737183880>main meal (the actual marines units) are greatNo one said this. Just like Fries, Space Marines are their most sold item despite the fact they're bland and underwhelming
>>737184040Also>Newest book has half a page about a female Custodes>She's shit at her job
>>737184040>>Introduce a "mother" to the Primarchs for obvious diversity reasonsNot really. It was always a question of "who provided the rest of the genetic material for the Primarchs" with some speculating they were so wildly different due to having different mothers.
>>737183782>I LOVE THE TASTE OF WARM CARDBOARD -Average Marinefag
>>737184149>Not reallylmao
>>737184040Retarded shit like this turns me off from reading the Horus Hersey era books.I'm just thinking reading like Flight of the Eisenstein and other Garro/proto GK books from that era.
>>737184149>Not really.lollmao even
Who's the Nakai of 40k?
>>737183725>>737184098This comparison falls apart with any application of proper thinking.McDonalds is popular because it's cheap compared to other establishments.A box of Marines, a Marine character, or a Marine vehicle will generally cost the same as their equivalents in other factions.Despite this, Marines still sell overwhelmingly higher than all other factions, so much so that the non-Marine factions in Starter Boxes see an influx of popularity just by association.40k is the Space Marine setting. There's no getting around that.
>>737184248I've unfortunately read all of HH and its sequels.I recently reread the Loken trilogy and the Fulgrim novel and then I stopped, I would definitely recommend those.
>>737184080>The Elf faction is the strongest in the gameGee, I wonder if GW has ever done this before...
>>737184286Kaldor Draigo
>>737183797I don't hate perpetuals, I just hate John Grammaticus in particular.
>>737164824That is in fact Horus Rising.
>>737184332The xenos are for freaks, but the troons and faggots gravitate towards the Marine factions so much that GW even published that one Reddit fags custom chapter colors that were all just variations on their sexuality flags. Curious, isn't it?
>>737184286Sanguinor or saint celestine I suppose
>>737184520>but the troons and faggots gravitate towards the Marine factionsActually they go more towards AdMech and Chaos.>chapter colors that were all just variations on their sexuality flags.That guy does it for all the factions, Marines are simply the easiest to paint so he used them for the 'showcase'.
>>737184332That's not even what the analogy was referencing you retard. You argued Marines are good because they sell the most and GW is bigger than it was in the past. The Analogy was to show popularity is no measure of quality. It was a corporate analogy not a food analogy. It's not even relevant because Marines are one of the cheapest armies in regards to point value to model cost. You need to buy less plastic to have a fully functioning marine army compared to most other Factions. They're also designed to be entry level in regards to painting.
>>737184520and none of it is for chudcels, Trench Crusade isn't either, so what now? We're culturally homeless.
I find the setting of Necromunda way more interesting that 40k's as awhole
>>737183736>Inner Circle becomes 2nd tier bitch since the Risen is now daddy's number 1 and takes orders directly from himNothing like that happened. He keeps the risen on a tight leash so they can't mingle with the chapter at large. Being a redeemed DA isn't a special status. It's just means you were dumb enough to trust a chaos sorcerer.
>>737184680Then play the necromunda game
>>737184581I can understand chaos, but why admech?
>>737184713I did. I expected it to be better. I want an other one
>>73718467840k is still too alien to the revolutionaries trying to subvert it. They'd have to break the whole system in half before it even resembled the kind of gayness they did to Star Trek or Star Wars.
>>737184713It has a beyond shit AI that can't navigate the map. Shame the game is good otherwise if lacking in cosmetics.
>>737184762Hired Gun is fun if very janky, but Underhive War is terrible, worse than the Mordheim game the same developers made
>>737184810Revolutionaries are doing it from the top now with the femstodes debacle. The question is will the "investors" keep pushing that shit seeing it's no longer profitable.
>>737143725The recruitment process is dozens of surgery, and hoping you even survive all of them.
>>737184737Tech related faction that helps 'transition' people into Skitarii
>>737182609Why are tyranids so popular? Do they have some cool mechanics in the game, I dont think they would look that interesting on a shelf.
>>737184680Necromunda is the only soulful 40k IP that is still in production. GLORY TO HOUSE HELMAWR! Aranthus you scammer stop trying to usurp the throne!!!
>>737184950They're in the most recent Starter box. Same reason Necrons and Death Guard are up there too, since they were the starter for 9th and 10th respectively. Orks will see a similar boost as well later this year.
What does the police in the cities do in this setting? I think playing as a vice squad busting dens of demonic sin would be cool.
>>737186285there's the local police and then there's the adeptus arbites who are more like judge dredd
>>737183880The game itself.
>>737183437Eldar/deldar as the major fast/skillful/stealthy factions are good material for video games in general, similar to what you say imagine a tide-esque game where you're aspect warrior-level eldar, there could be actual skill or thought involved in getting through being vastly outnumbered or taking on larger enemies where instead they just make enemies pathetic and let you wander in and swing through one million of them as a 'disposable' imperial 'grunt'
>>737188997Eldar are just boring humans
>>737189105not really
>>737189105Eldar are ironically closer to modern Humans than the Imperium, but Imperial fans don't know how to cope with that and tend to just ignore and belittle them.
>>737143725I just want more Warhammer Fantasy games
>primaris mary soumarinesNo, I do not want to be a bigger batmarine.
>>737192954Buddy, Titus was already doing stupid unbelievable bullshit in SM1 before he was Primaris.Hell, it was happening in Dawn of War as well.
>>737189105>aspect warriors are just lightly armored primaris marines.Harsh truth.
>>737163442>Dorns Shit Closet
>>737143725It'd be cool to have a farming simulator where you raise Tau cows.
>>737193512The wording of your post upsets me and there's nothing I can do about it.
>>737193354Yeah and he was doing as a space marine. Why do we need space marine 2.0 (better edition!)?
>>737167845its logical but I feel like it doesn't really stress test the applicant and may just cause more potential traitors in the long run
>>737199336The failures just become serfs. As stated in a later post, the Red Scorpions do these tests to 1-year-old boys, and then take them away.They're the only Chapter that literally raises their Space Marines as children, so they have plenty of time to figure them out.
>>737197047>Why do we need space marine 2.0 (better edition!)?
