Morrowind thread
Nerevarine is a lizard
>>737151698Proof?
>>737151893Basically if you lose your face before you die, you can reincarnate as any race. That's why Sotha Sil flayed Nerevar's face.
>>737152076Okay so if he could be anything why would he be a race that can't even wear boots?
seen any elves?
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>>737152493That's the new Kartur Dale region, not Clambering Moor.
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>>737153141Cyrodiil is the best province.
Why did he commit tax fraud
>>737153486His limitless power
>>737152914>>737152963>>737153141>>737153192It’s really sucks that Oblivion made Imperial churches incredibly generic looking
>>737154141>Azra's Crossing still not startedIt's over...
Buncha rendering optimizations stuff coming to vanilla Morrowind soon.
Kvatch is coming along nicely, I especially appreciate the amphitheater
>>737154393Isn't the architecture building assets still not done yet?
>>737154764>yellow error doorsSame for me, why isn't the asset in tamriel data yet?
>>737154418QRD?
>>737154794Wish they would focus on that instead of Markarth (boring.)
>>737154369It really sucks that Oblivion made Cyrodiil incredible generic looking.
>>737154418what's happening with the horizon line, or whatever that is, rendering in front of the doors/gate/player's head?
>>737155248There's new MWSE/MGE stuff coming (hopefully): a bunch of modern rendering techniques implemented into the game and a whole redo of distant land. The result is a huge FPS increase across the board.
>>737155706Too cute. Needs the anus mouths.
>>737154764>>737155235Where are you getting that from? I thought they’d stopped releasing previews?
>>737152493Veloth: "yeah this sucks actually, let's keep going past that big ass dusty wasteland over there"
>>737155820It's all on their forum, under claims and section files
>>737155820Public dev fileshttps://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/releasefileshttps://www.project-tamriel.com/forum
>>737155820There are still internal releases
>>737152914Are there actually good religious questlines in Anvil or is all the cyrodiil cult stuff just set dressing
>>737156161It's only the Chimer that stayed in that shithole, Veloth kept going East to Cathnoquey and who knows where after that.
>>737154764>A similar kind of One Big Street design as OE, but curving around the entire city and splitting off into little side neighborhoods along the wayooooo
>>737155525And just when OpenMW was starting to look like a straight upgrade
>>737156625It ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Baz2LY1f880
>>737156778This is canon, vivec did this
>>737156625Honestly to me OpenMW just feels wrong. I don’t know exactly what it is, but something makes it look like a modern game rather than Morrowind.
>>737156889He did, Todd said so.
Is the next TR release out yet? No? Then there's no reason for there to be a Faggawind thread.
>>737156778now this is podracing!
>>737150851Still needs Dres lands
>>737157556Greatest videogame ever made. Cope and seethe about it.
>>737157692Greatest worldbuilding in a videogame ever? It's definitely up there, even though most of the cool stuff is by 1 person and most of those cool texts aren't in Morrowind proper. Greatest videogame ever made? Laughable.
>>737157781Name one(1) other game bundled with a mod creation kit and 25 years after release is still relevant and being expanded with great mods.
>Answering some faggot troons ragebaitNGMI
>>737155767he is 1:1 to the kirkbride drawing
>>737157882Kirkbride was after Redguard and N'gasta. His art and TR's >>737155706 ripoff is too cutesy and non-threatening looking for Sloads.
>>737157849Skyrim
>>737158052Skyrim is 15 years old and all of its fans are begging for a sequel finally.
>>737157978kirkbride was literally the co-creator of redguard. i do agree with you though, but i am fine with the idea that sloads can look different from one another rather than just be a bunch of clones
>>737157849guess
>>737157849Thief
>>737157849Freespace 2
>>737157621In development.
>>737158234I've seen this art around for years and I'm sorry but it looks like shit to me, like something out of Assassin's Creed.
>>737158234>we will never have a thief/dishonored style immersive sim game about an ashlander/morag tong assassin doing missions with the aid of magicfuck the world and fuck bethesda for never making any spinoffs. Arkane in their prime could have totally done it
>>737158356They did spinoffs ie. Battlespire and Redguard but they were flops so they dropped the idea.
>>737158356>and fuck bethesda for never making any spinoffsBlame Zenimax, they were the ones that wanted ESO. And blame the gross amount of money ESO makes. >In June 2017, it was announced the game had over 10 million players since release, and around 2.5 million monthly active players.[105] In June 2019, it was announced that the game had reached 13.5 million players lifetime.[106] As of January 2020, over 15 million units had been sold.[107][108] Pete Hines called The Elder Scrolls Online the most successful Bethesda game from 2017 to 2021.[109] By 2024, the game had generated $2 billion in revenue.[110]
>>737158356Game where you play as an incarnation of Dram during the Great War on the side of the Mede empire never ever.
>>737158413yeah but they were made approx. 999999999999 years ago and are complete and utter dogshit. they could easily have hired different studios like Arkane to make a [insert game here] but with a TES skin.>>737158425paypigs are literally part of the reason gaming is so abysmally shit nowadays. why ever make a new interesting, innovative and passionate game like Morrowind ever again when you can just add a green horse mount to ESO and print money? it reminds me of how world of warcraft made more money on some store mount than the entirety of starcraft 2 or some shit.
>>737153486>tax fraudhes a smuggler who isnt paying his dues.
>>737158481a redguard remake with the aesthetic and narrative finesse of a game like morrowind would be so dope. i dont fuck with the horrid gameplay and the goofy aesthetic of redguard
>>737153192Booba
>>737158413Both of them could do with a remake that makes them better games, honestly.
>SHOTN hasn't had a release in 6 yearsWhat the fuck have they been doing?
>>737156239retarded question but how do i get the game to not shit itself if my viewing distance more than 10 cellssame for the fog too
>>737158640PT version of Stros M'kai will be better
>>737158667They all could use a remake, but Bethesda would need to acquire like three more studios for that to even begin to happen
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>>737158750Project Atlas and other optimization mods. Like I said, there's also new stuff coming that'll make it run a lot better.
Are any of the new land mods any good?Walking around big cities is cool and all but if there isn't entertaining quests to go along with it I'm not sure I'd care.I really enjoyed a few year old TR build I played and imagine the new megacity is probably just as good if not better but I'm more curious of the other ones.
>>737158750I just use OpenMW with the view settings cranked to the maxI have a pretty good PC though
>>737158908There's someone out there who thinks Arena is a better game than Daggerfall.
>>737152076See this account always confused me, because if Sotha Sil cut off Nerevar's face (so he could be any race,) and Almalexia cut off his feet (so he could be a beast race,) and Vivec pierces him with his spear (giving him a metaphorical pussy so he can be any sex,) then doesn't that mean they 'betrayed' Nerevar in anticipation of the Nerevarine prophecy? Wouldn't that mean they were in on it the whole time? But while there's some evidence they were (Vivec in his Sermons addressing the Nerevarine directly,) if they were in on it then why would Almalexia go insane from paranoia and Sotha Sil let her kill him because of guilt, instead of explaining to you that her 'betrayal' was just so you can become the Neverarine and attain the enlightenment such a path allowed you?
>>737151210We're already getting exterior work on the first Redoran release?
>>737158830>>737159174i've got no idea what im doing wrong theneven with atlas my game doesnt even reach the main menu with anything higher than 15 cells viewing distance
>>737156328He went to Akavir to get eaten by vampiric snakes.
>>737159242this iconography is part of a post-hoc constructed myth regarding the nerevarine prophecy. what actually happened to nerevar and how he was killed is not known and probably cant be known, but i'd wager to say that when they killed nerevar, it was pretty unceremonious and just simply stabbed him to death. the removal of the face and feet are probably just symbolic constructions of the myth.
>>737159307These are my settingsDon't close out on Data Initializing loadscreens btw, they take a while.
>>737158123Based Freespace enjoyer
>>737159349Can't you find your Bonewalker in the mod and he's got those wounds, though? I think you can even find your face. Now, mod lore and all, but this is the mod thread.
not currently playing mw rn but really appreciate these threadsneed to really dip my toes into tamriel rebuilt and the others, have only just a bit but keep holding off on doing a big ol playthrough
>>737159338Can't wait for more of the Padomaic
>>737159242>Vivec pierces him with his spearGiven that its Vivec, that could have a NUMBER of implications.
>>737159541Given that the purpose was to give Nerevar a metaphorical vagina I think those implications are intended.
>>737159579>Vivec's cock is so powerful getting hit by it instantly gives you a vagina for him to fuck
>>737159518Yeah I wish those guys the best, they seem like they want to have a fun time making some unique places. Kinda hoping they do Pyanodea if they ever finish the Padomaic.
>>737159446i guess so, but as you said, thats mod lore. havent gotten to that part of TR yet. i was just going off of OG Morrowind lore here and how it portrays myth, which is obviously mostly constructed, poetic and vague. Like Vivec tells truths within lies and lies with truths.
>>737159595He literally time traveled with Cyrus to bully the Yokudans by making them all women. The modern Redguards remember this event and Vivec under the name of the God of Makes-Us-Women.
>>737159307That's about how high you can get it with a stable framerate; it'll still plenty good all the same.
>>737158727PC was indev for like 15 years before anvil came outIf it wasn't for TR getting a bunch of hyper-dedicated autists in the late 2010's who decided to say fuck it and take on nearly every single PT project by themselves out of pity, cyrodiil would still just be stuck on beta stirk(which was also made by TR)
>>737158727Skyrim is the most boring province
>>737159868High rock*
>>737158813>One of the biggest cities in the gameI don't remember stros m'kai being that big, it was like a standard port townAre they just translating a game with an entirely different scale 1:1 into morrowind?
>>737159148Cyrodiil is being handled by a lot of the people responsible for TR's jump in quality in the last decadeYour mileage may vary on Skyrim, which has one old release that did not have that benefit
>>737159930>biggest cityIt's only like four cells big, that's the same size as like Balmora.
>>737160028It's the second settlement tier, placing it at the same level as vivec and narsisThere's gonna be a lot of city in that city
>>737159914Nah that shit will be really cool atleast in PT. Parts of high rock are basically S.T.A.L.K.E.R but in Tamriel due to the dragonbreak shenaningans that happened in daggerfall.
When is the next TR update coming out? Do we have a general ETA? I'm holding off on my next playthrough until then.
>>737159914High Rock is Rennaisance Italy/Holy Roman Empire feuding states in constant civil war KINO.Skyrim is Norway.
>>737160164Poison Song, probably around June.
>>737160078Nah, check again. It's a metropolis without the extra outline, which is the same key they gave Balmora. Vivec and Narsis are a tier above.
>>737159914>>737160186I remember reading somewhere about High Rock having such powerful geomancers they they Levitate entire mountains off the ground and sculpt them into cities. Of course not canon, but I wish it was because that sounds super dope.
>>737160273Almalexia will be their make it ro break it test. If they succeed in it, then i believe i will see PT Imperial city in my lifetime.
>>737160287Balmora is a small city, a hexagon, two tiers below Narsis and Vivec, which are octagonsThe outline simply delineates whether a settlement is a faction capitol, which Narsis is and Vivec is not
>>737159930Stros M'kai is supposed to be the third largest Hammerfell city after Sentinel and Hegathe IIRC
>>737160465It'll probably be packed super tight like Old Ebonheart is.
>>737160365Cyrodiil is so far out from that that it'll be decades before they reach it even under the ideal circumstance of everyone from TR moving to it after Morrowind is finished
>>737160585I think PC will go faster than the other projects. Everyone wants to see TESIII era jungle Cyrodiil.
>>737160780Skyrim will probably be faster because the region is less populated and they’ve already done quite a lot of work on it.
>>737160273will wealth beyond measure release this year too?
>>737160862Their version of Skyrim doesn't even have shouts or dragons. They should focus on the cool Morrowind-esque elven provinces like Summerset or Black Marsh before coming back to boring ass Skyrim.
>>737152493How did they implement water on different levels? I thought that was impossible in MW
>>737160862lol
>>737160916A lot of the stuff there has been pretty cool. I got into a riddle contest with a skull and the Direnni ruins are fun.
>>737150851>>737152914>>737152963>>737153141>>737153192Is this modded? Looks much better than oblivion
>>737152914Dibella is a slut.
>>737161040Yes, those are all mod areasMostly shit from cyrodiil in morrowind's style
>>737160916I’ve read some of the concept documents for the upcoming quests and it looks better than Skyrim. Thank God fucking Companions aren’t werewolves but something actually reasonable.>>737160931Seven years ago all these projects were basically dead
>>737158174>>737157621I've got little faith in them making Dres Lands interesting with their current design. Currently they only have four biomes planned. One is empty grass prairie. The second is treeless grass marsh. The third is coastal mud flats that are supposed to intentionally be as ugly and unappealing as possible. The fourth is the Arnessian Jungle, which will be pretty, but there's only a tiny strip in Morrowind and it's mostly going to be in Black Marsh. So where's the beauty and appeal in any of the other three?
>>737161215>Seven years ago all these projects were basically deadKinda true, but that's when we got almas thirr and work on anvil started picking up in earnestNow we're getting a second cyrodiil release since then, the fourth TR release since then, and skyrim is still hoping for just markarth sometime in the next year or two
>>737161330Actually now that I mention that, I think even the brand new Hammerfell project is closer to getting Rihad out
>>737161304at least they got the clockwork city
>>737161330I’m saying that Skyrim might get more updates precisely because I know for a fact that Cyrodiil won’t be getting anything in the near future. I doubt we’ll see anything for Cyrodiil before 2028
>>7371608842027 sadlyUnless (You) join the project and get it done faster
>>737161423Technically it's more of a ruined exterior populated by lunatics.
>>737159930It's basically faction favoritism/indulgence. "Stros is so cool so it needs to be extra special!" Same reason they're arguing that Narsis should be bigger than fucking Almalexia now.
>>737161437The Sutch release is closer to finished than not, and there are pictures of the in-progress Kvatch exterior right here in this thread
>>737160186My issue with this is that the Warp in the West lore is that there's only supposed to be four kingdoms in the Iliac Bay now, Daggerfall, Wayrest, Sentinel, and Orsinium, but clearly here all the little micro-states are independent.
>>737160780The funny thing is that they're not getting to a jungle before Chorrol and Delodiil, which are far away still.
>>737161635In TR the only canon WITW endings are Underking, Mannimarco, and Gortwog.The differing cities endings cancel eachother out. High Rock is still the HRE.
>>737161718>The differing cities endings cancel eachother out. High Rock is still the HRE.But that's lame as fuck.
>>737161423Personally I'm guessing they're going to need to change the concepts to be prettier eventually to get exterior modelers to actually make something for them. They had this issue with some parts of the Morrowind border recently, where they had to change the original concept because nobody wanted to work on it.
>>737161808Cope
>>737161808Oblivion's "actually there's no more strife and only four factions left in the entirety of the two countries all equally loyal to the empire so that you don't have to worry about anything happening there anymore" is what's lameOblivion's wholesale dumbing down of Cyrodiil still left it with more counties than that, and there's basically no point in depicting a culture in Morrowind if it has no complex political bullshit happening
>>737162069The HRE was an abortion.>>737162086There can be strife between four kingdoms. Hell, the Warp in the West was only supposed to settle the issue in the Iliac Bay. Parts of High Rock not on it, like Shornhelm, Northpoint, Farrun and Evermore, could still be separate kingdoms too, and Skyrim invading and occupying Jehanna is from in-game lore.
>>737162069>>737162086Hre is not boringBoring is the fact that they made endings cancel out
>>737162191They already didEach of the main kingdoms came to rule tons of land, wiping out hundreds of cities and towns and shit in the processThey just don't unilaterally control the entirety of the Iliac, sharing it with the handful of places that managed to survive with significantly less holdings than they used to have
>>737162191Blame this guy
>>737162290>Each of the main kingdoms came to rule tons of land, wiping out hundreds of cities and towns and shit in the processExcept they didn't, because all major lore cities in High Rock are intact and still independent on that map.
>>737154141>Flat roofs>Above average amounts of snow and rainYeeeaaaahhhh
>>737162290Explain to me how Daggerfall or Wayrest's situation in the mod is supposed to reflect their endings in the game when they literally only control their own city and like three podunk Hla Oad level shitholes?
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>>737162469>SnowhawkAka Traitorsville.
>>737162469It's freaky seeing normal European landscapes and creatures in Morrowind
>>737151698Played out meme
>>737162525Didn't play Bloodmoon?
>>737161808PT and TR have weird ideas sometimes. IIRC they keep debating whether or not to give the Imperials a railroad system.
>>737162353Gavaudon having one technically independent city in between wayrest and orsinium that only managed to hold out by making a deal with Gortwog is not "intact" compared to being an entire kingdom with 11 settlements
>>737162537Bloodmoon didn't have apple trees.
>>737160186My High Rock home
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>>737162625Nobody is talking about Orsinium because even you acknowledged that the mod is making Gortwog's ending fully canon, unlike Wayrest or Daggerfall's. This is about Tulune, Glenpoint, Gora, Anticlere, Alcaire, Kambria, and all these other little shitholes existing while Wayrest and Daggerfall have one city and jackshit else other than three house hovels.
>>737154369it really sucks, OblivionFortunately we have Morrowind.
>>737160918It's fake water i.e. just textures, you can't swim in it. Still breddy cool though.
>>737162719Wayrest and Daggerfall each lead competing alliance leagues like Athens and Sparta.
>>737162863>Actually we retconned it so they didn't get the endings the game says they got and instead they go this other gay little retarded thing so we can jack off to some other stupid dysfunctional horseshit of independent kingdoms because we hate Daggerfall lore
>>737162851Kinda wish there was a mod for multiple water planes. I could definitely see it being possible with Lua or OpenMW, given how it works in Skyrim, but still.
>>737162719Gortwog's ending happened in that he established Orsinium as a real place equal to the others, and would now be competing with Wayrest for political dominance of the areaThe other endings did not happen in the sense that the entirety of the illiac bay outside of the initial holdings of those kingdoms were not completely leveled to the ground and replaced by giant empty scorched trench borders
>>737159773how do you get distances like >>737159725 and >>737159518 then?
>>737161718damn that looks kino
>>737162661>AAAHHHHH APPLETREES!!!! I'M GOING INSANE!!!
>>737162962You either don't get a stable framerate or you learn to live with it. Though OpenMW can run slightly better for some people.
>>737162960The other endings did not happen in the sense that Daggerfall and Wayrest literally don't control any meaningful territory outside of their eponymous cities whatsoever. You keep ignoring that to claim "nah dude they totally claimed and conquered a bunch you just don't see it." They conquered and have shit fuck all, the map shows it.
>>737152963>>737153141Are these unique assets or do they downsample stuff from oblivion. The textures look familiar but i'm not familiar enough with oblivion to see if they're directly ripped off
>>737163010Except they do, a lot of those other cultures are part of their territory
>>737163175Uniquely made assets.
>>737154764>exterior arenaOptimization devs gonna freak
>>737163267Map gives them all independent faction symbols, showing they're faction capitals. Again, this is just trying to justify that retarded 'HRE' concept where they on-paper are their overlords but on the ground have zero power and their endings were literally irrelevant and not depicted in the mod in any form.
How well do places like Narsis and Old Ebonheart run for you guys? (Tamriel Rebuilt)Also where is the funny frog man people keep posting?
>>737152914The whole "Roman tv super aesthetic" is a bit disappointing. At least go real Roman aesthetic aka painted stuff
>>737163346You're unironically mad at colors on a map, manIs it really gonna kill you if Shalgora is a vassal state of Daggerfall allowed to have new armor assets or something instead of being structured like a Hlaalu city where the guy in charge is defined by the dialog topic as being one [faction rank] further down the corporate ladder from the guy in charge of the next city over
>>737163439That looks gay though, why wouldn't people want fantasy cultures based loosely on real cultures to be idealized
>>737163439Literally everyone knows that statues look way worse painted in flat matte colors with no illusion of depth or texture, nobody cares what the actual Romans did. Especially not when you're looking at Roman-Slavs in a coastal Savannah, and will soon reach Roman-Weeaboos in a jungle.
>>737163471It's going to piss me off that they pick-and-choose which endings from the Warp in the West are canon based exclusively on who they show favoritism to, and directly downgraded Wayrest and Daggerfall's conquests to "idk they're like the HRE" for no justifiable reason. Though in practice maps are also useless if they don't show political realities, if these places are 'totally just client states bro' that should be depicted, does Narsis need a different color to tell you the culture isn't identical there to Balmora?
>>737163654Still more interesting than Skyrim.
>>737163654The endings of daggerfall were that each culture raped the other main ones out of existence to have sole political control of the iliac bayThat did not include sending troops into bumfuck nowhere to performatively "own" every settlement everywhere, despite those ones not being in the running for control of the iliac in the first placeWhat you're thinking of is lore that was introduced in Oblivion that was an excuse for them to not have to care about the area anymore, same as how Skyrim had Morrowind effectively wiped off the map
Morrowind modding is so lively it easily is a better game than porn-Skyrim ever could hope to be.I see screenshots every week and wow. What's the best big mod for OpenMW? First run of Morrowind ever. I got it on a bundle years ago and never have played past the falling mage. What's a good and *fun* build for a noob? I've heard the magic system is unique and in depth. Is it worth exploring on a first run?
>>737150851I want morrowind to be remade on tes5 engine so I can turn it into a goon machine with mods
>>737163654>does Narsis need a different color to tell you the culture isn't identical there to Balmora?Narsis uses the same architecture and its culture is directly part of the same faction controlling Balmora, literally being part of the same organizational structure and even sharing family drama within the leadership.
>>737155525Cool beans. How many more FPS does it need?t. Never played it.
>>737163787>The endings of daggerfall were that each culture raped the other main ones out of existence to have sole political control of the iliac bayAnd the compromise there is that Daggerfall and Wayrest fucked over every smaller kingdom between themselves until meeting at an impossible contradiction in the middle where you run into some fucked up Numidum-blasted eternal battlefield, and on either side of it you now have the kingdoms of Daggerfall, and Wayrest. And of course, north of the Iliac Bay, the situation is as it was before in High Rock, since the events of Daggerfall only relate that far.>That did not include sending troops into bumfuck nowhere to performatively "own" every settlement everywhere,We're not talking about 'bumfuck nowhere', we're talking about major kingdoms like Anticlere, literally the fourth biggest power in the region, which for no justifiable reason whatsoever is allowed to continue existing.
>>737163857https://modding-openmw.com/lists/i-heart-vanilla-directors-cut/
>>737163951Big towns like Old Ebonheart, Anvil, and Narsis can slow even a modern PC to a crawl, since Morrowind was never optimized for modern systems or large cities.
>>737156893I was recommended OpenMW as an engine overhall. Should I stick to MWSE? Does it have more mods supported?
>>737163925Stick with TESV.
>>737164073its boring after beating it once
>>737157781>Greatest videogame ever made? LaughableYou laugh, but a lot of people seem to still love it despite being cringe to play nowdays. Maybe not "best", but surely up there, no? Anygame played this long after release is doing something well.
>>737164114Same with masturbation.
>>737158052Pornrim.Fify.
>>737164114i bet your dad said same about you
>>737164247nah my dad was chill
>>737163787>lore that was introduced in OblivionThat the mod uses to justify including Gortwog, Manimarco, and the Underking's endings...
>>737158425Damn, dropping facts! ESO never had any right of being as successful as it became. A lame cashgrab of a game.
>>737164067It's 50/50 at this point. Honestly, just download Morrowind twice and give both a go. As I said, they feel quite different at their core, in my opinion, and it’s a matter of taste.
>>737163971>we're talking about major kingdoms like Anticlere, literally the fourth biggest power in the regionWent from literally hundreds of settlements to just one(1), and its literal only planning is a description of the people being mad as fuck about losing their independence for wayrest money
>>737164307Those endings are from Daggerfall, and are the only ones not mutually exclusive
new orcish armor will drop soon
>>737158781>Bethesda would need to acquire like three more studios for that to even begin to happenWhy is Bethesda not big enough to remake a few old ass games? Surely there are some departments who are not doing anything right now.
>>737164361The problem with trying to use random podunksville generated towns no longer existing to justify how it's totally depicting Daggerfall and Wayrest's conquests is that their absence can just as easily be explained by the fact that Morrowind's scale is much smaller than Daggerfall's. Every single province has many, many towns and cities that theoretically exist but aren't depicted because of the scale, how are those 'hundreds of settlements' any different? Only because you told me, right? What about the principle of show, don't tell? And you show me by Anticlere, and any other Iliac Bay kingdom, no longer being independent and being one of Daggerfall or Wayrest's cities. If they aren't independent, then the map shouldn't be depicting them with territory, since they would no longer have any, it would all be Daggerfall or Wayrest's.
>>737164535nigger ew
>>737164571Bethesda's always been a comparatively small studio, as far as AAA studios go.
>someone ported some skyrim armour into morrowind and everyone saying how good it looksit looks awful and clashes with morrowind's appearance hard, I don't understand you niggers sometimes
>>737164807It has less downloads than armor from Mohrta>you niggersWe have nothing to do with that
>>737164572Explaining away the massive scale difference was half of the purpose of the warp in the west, aside from reconciling daggerfall's endingsThat's why all the Oblivion lore describes it as having completely obliterated all the lesser kingdoms and all the land in between the main factions, who all have alliances with each other and the empire
>>737165139The fact that you dislike how Oblivion did it doesn't change what I'm saying about the mod failing to depict (or plan to depict, really) an implementation of the Warp in the West involving Daggerfall and Wayrest's endings by making all the places they both set out to conquer still be independent. The scale difference is only relevant because you brought up the fact Anticlere isn't planned on having any of its many outlying towns in Daggerfall as proof that they got conquered or destroyed, when I'm telling you it would've been impossible to depict them in Morrowind anyway.
I bet you'll be able to spend a whole playthrough without leaving Almalexia if the quest density is anything like Narsis.
>>737165537They're planning on making it smaller than Narsis unfortunately.
>>737165559Fake news
>>737164535Unironically pretty cute. Post more.
>>737165298It definitely could've been possible to depict Anticlere as being the third biggest kingdom in high rock, the reduced scale doesn't stop that from happeningAnd again, those endings were mutually exclusive and are directly about jockeying for influence with each other, not about random other territoriesYou might as well be mad about how the empire still exists despite being driven out by each of the other factions, or how high rock and hammerfell still exist instead of just being called "tamriel" as the empire dictated after they took over the bay
>>737165537>Put her husband's district behind her palace so she doesn't have to look at it and her dwelling is unreachable from thereSmooth.
>>737165559You keep saying this but nobody actually wants that
>>737165713Devs want it.
>>737152493We have Skyrim at home
>>737165728IncorrectMaybe you saw someone say Narsis was bigger than vanilla Mournhold and got confused
>>737165678>And again, those endings were mutually exclusive and are directly about jockeying for influence with each other, not about random other territoriesThey were about controlling the Iliac Bay, how do they control it when all the other little microstates in the region they planned to conquer still exist? Of course they're mutually exclusive, which is why you need to have some kind of compromise if you plan on doing some kind of implementation of the Warp in the West (which they do.) I provided one possible example myself earlier in this conversation. Daggerfall and Wayrest seize the Iliac Bay territories on either side of a shared border, which exists because of the Numidium dealing with contradictory vicotories. Hell, if I remember right, Oblivion made Anticlere that border, so if anything Anticlere should be one of their blasted Numidium wastelands in a fair implementation of it.
>>737150851How can I get a Morrowind like the screenshots in this thread?
>>737164535>incomplete https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58692Sad. This shit genuinely almost got me horny enough for a new playthrough.
Must-have mods alongside the mainland, Skyrim and Cyrodiil?
>>737166080>>737163991
>>737166080https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/56814
>>737165879The big kingdoms were never in contention with the little ones for control of the region, some of them even already had alliancesThe only thing ever stopping each of them was each other, which is why their endings were "they destroyed the other factions you could've given the totem to and now control the iliac bay"The more realistic outcome is that none of them exist afterward and the whole area just becomes The Zone, but time fuckery dictates that's too boring to be real in either caseSo concessions are made where they didn't actually do that and anything that falls outside of that contradiction is fair game- which the mod is resolving by concluding that they destroyed some shit but underking nuked himself before they could get anywhere serious, just using the minor advantage to continue to fight from there and expand their influence instead of eliminating all disparity and conflict permanently and completely flattening the political map
>>737166363>The big kingdoms were never in contention with the little onesAnticlere is being discussed because it's not a 'little one.'>So concessions are made where they didn't actually do that and anything that falls outside of that contradiction is fair gameAnd the problem is that they decided their 'solution' should be that literally nothing from Wayrest or Daggerfall's endings mattered and they didn't conquer or do anything, which is far more boring than even making it all a wasteland because it means there's ZERO fucking change from how it is in Daggerfal with the Breton kingdoms. You have an opportunity to write about how the political situation in the Iliac Bay changed, which is interesting in and of itself, and decided "Hmm nah, we want it to stay how it was during Daggerfall despite the point being that it was an unsustainable clusterfuck." Hell, we haven't been talking about Hammerfell, but in the current planning Sentinel has a big fat ugly nuke zone next to it despite literally getting nothing out of it.
>>737166572>Anticlere is being discussed because it's not a 'little one.'Politically, it might as well have beenThat's why it didn't get an ending>there's ZERO fucking change from how it is in Daggerfal with the Breton kingdomsNow there are less proper kingdoms and most of those left that still claim to be at all distinct from the surrounding political forces are either holding onto nothing but some shit ass village or fortress or something, or entirely cucked to daggerfall or wayrest anyway
>>737167010>Now there are less proper kingdomsLiterally all the kingdoms from Daggerfall, at least in High Rock, are still there. None of them are gone.>holding onto nothing but some shit ass village or fortress or something,Holding onto their capital city, every last one. And because of the scale differences at play, we have no reason to think their smaller towns are gone or conquered instead of just not depicted due to scale issues. The solution to this would be to show some of those towns occupied by Daggerfall or Wayrest, but well, they don't want to actually depict either of those kingdoms having accomplished anything with the fucking Numidium.>or entirely cucked to daggerfall or wayrestBy 'cucked' you mean "didn't win the thing you've been arguing they weren't fighting over in the first place"? Because as the map shows, they're all independent anyway.
>>737166572>>737167010Oh also Sentinel does control basically the entire area, and is only competing with Totambu as far as the Iliac region goesHammerfell's a bit of a different can of worms and has super distinct cultures that wouldn't really fit under the same faction
>>737167132Oh okay so only Daggerfall and Wayrest get fucked over and don't get anything from their endings but literally everyone else gets what they wanted. Make that make sense. See >>737167120
>console teleport to anvil>it brings you to an unused room with an anvil in itHeh.
>>737167120There is actually no way that you consider the small singular town of Bhoriane or the half-destroyed remnant of Menevia or the Wayrest-ruled single city of Gavaudon to be entire kingdomsYou are again assmad about colors on a map that you do not understand the significance of
>>737167467There's no way to tell the difference between somewhere like Gavaudon being a kingdom or just a city when the area it rules is roughly the same size as it was in Daggerfall, and the only reason it's not populated with as many towns is because the only way to show that in Morrowind would be having every tile be a village because of the scale difference.
>>737167581You seem to care a whole lot about the scale difference when the thing being compared is current relative sizeAnd again, literally a puppet of wayrest whose people can only seethe about alliances with both of their previous enemies at their borders
>>737167713Current relative is depicted as the same, anon. The blue dashed lines represent provincial internal borders. All of the places you named still have their old territories?>But they're a puppetThen why be left with a region to itself? Why would somewhere like Tulune be left with a massive chunk of countryside no doubt teeming with too small to depict villages? You're maintaining the existence of these little kingdoms just to nullify the Wayrest and Daggerfall endings.
>>737167804>Then why be left with a region to itself?They're not, really>Why would somewhere like Tulune be left with a massive chunk of countryside no doubt teeming with too small to depict villages?Tulune is a town that's now part of Daggerfall, and doesn't have anything at all indicating it had ever controlled more than a small stretch of coast even before the warAgain, you're mad about colors on a map
>>737158052>>737158082Skyrim is for tasteless casuals.
>>737168130I thought it was for the Nords.
>>737167314kino
i leave my characters parked in morrowind in eso so i get the nostalgic music every time i get into the game, good times, but might drop this game soon the inventory bloat is too much to deal with
>>737169482vivec is for me the best "main" city to do my stuff in
>>737169591wow, another thing to ignore after 10 hours
Can anyone spoonfeed me on what their plans are in relation to the main story vs. us joining House Indoril and meeting Almalexia prior to ever confronting Dagoth Ur?
>>737170754Why would the Indoril questline involve Almalexia if the temple quests never have you interact with Vivec?
>>737170947Vivec is a hermit and a recluse at this point in time, while Almalexia has no problem interacting with people in the city.
>>737152153Challenge run
>>737169591what's with the sparks
>>737172793smoking crack turns you muscles into steel
>>737172793Nanomachines son
>>737154764This is a lot smaller than Anvil, isn't it?
>>737154764I dislike how kvatch is the only city on big ass hill in cyrodiil, like only city that's build on super defensive ground and still gets destroyed numerous times in lore
>>737165728Proofs?
bound missing armour spells is gonna be very neat, god bless the people working on porting those spells
>>737173620he's lying, the devs have stated almalexia is gonna be the biggest city in morrowind, narsis was a test to see what they could do tooI dunno why he's mad about TR or something but just ignore the retards who pop up in these threads
I like rping as an itinerant priest. When are we getting more Cyrodiil content?
>>737173908probably end of the year? I dunno though
>>737150851Any news on the Redoran update?
I was memed into installing the fucking project cyrodiil sountrack mod, and it's the worst fucking musicloop I've ever heard in a game. Legit grating.
>>737173886Not him but I did see some stuff a while ago where devs were arguing with some autismo who was saying that Almalexia needed a really high number of interiors to be proportionate to Narsis (1000+ I think?) but devs said it's going to be much lower cos that's too much work. Maybe that's what he's on about.
>>737174234I thought like that at first but it somehow grew on me, it's okSkyrims is short and low sound quality for some reason but legit full of bangersMorrowind one is the worst sadly, it's long but full of droning boring depressing stuff that makes me sleepy. Souls oat at least had some hooks, tr ost is very one note, often literallyGothic mods have better music, Morrowind autists seem less interested in it, I wonder why
Is this a texture error or are the horses supposed have this pattern?
>>737175158yeah it's intentional. i guess it's a to still have look exotic while being horses
The stuff I've seen for PT's take on High Rock looks like dogshit, the epitome of when "deep lore" nerds sniff their own farts. Their "unique" take on aesthetics boils down to giving everyone face masks.
>>737175158>>737175541Supposed to be a Quagga i'd guesshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quagga
>>737175635Only the eastern bretons have face masks and that's because they're supposed to be heavily reachmen-influenced and therefore have a celtic and early medieval look to them
>>737175635yeah look at this guy's face mask
>>737175869Ah yes, the celts and early medieval peoples, famous for their gay ass face masks.
>>737176330Yes actually
>>737176453Only one that looks like that in existence.
>>737150851So what happened with Skywind? Is the project dead?
>>737176696And yet it's so damn impressive it's still an extremely recognizable symbol of anglo-saxon culture and the early medieval eraAlso, please do tell me where in the Elder Scrolls lore manual does it saybthat only face masks are only allowed if they were common in which ever real life culture had them everywhere? Especially when even vanilla Morrowind gives them to the Nords and such
>>737176857Don't bother, it's the autist turbofaggot who thinks everything in elder scrolls should subscribe 1/1 to their nearest irl cultural counterpart in aesthetics or it's literally worse than holocaust.
>miss>miss>miss>miss>miss>miss>miss
Skyrim->Morrowind->Tamriel Rebuilt->Tranny->SuicideThis pipeline can be avoided. Instead of playing Morrowind, try out Daggerfall.
>>737177432I played Daggerfall at release and it was amazing but don't be a retarded faggot.
>>737173908>cyrodiil cityhuh?
>>737177583>i played daggerfall at releasehow is the retirement home, grandpa?
>>737159293Exterior work for that has been ongoing for awhile. Redoran still won't be for awhile yet. Poison Song then Kragenmoor is next
>>737177779>implying I'll ever be able to afford that
>>737177432biggest daggerfall player zaric has trooned out which is how playing daggerfall goes
>>737177776Cyrodiil City aka The Imperial City, capital of Cyrodiil aka The Imperial Province, the homeland of the Cyrodiils aka The Imperials
>>737177909I like cyrodiil instead of imperial when it comes to race but being named after province (or the other way) makes them feel very mutty
>>737159242That's post-fact fanfiction. Azura prophesied his return so the Tribunal invented a cope because even as gods they knew her prophecies always come true.
>>737177909Why don't they call it Imperial City in PT?
>>737159242Well CLEARLY that's not true considering Nerevar's body is a bonewalker in Necrom and it doesn't miss any of the described parts.
>>737178014They do like half of the time
>still have to wait 50 years until proper nibenean contentI don't care about colovia boredom
>play Morrowind>love Colovian hat>excited to see more Colovian stuff in Oblivion>...
ive read that openmorrowind engine cant keep 60fps with most mods, even though its an improvment over bethesda garbageengine. it kills any lingering i have to play it.
>>737178014Just like everything else in these mods, it's fanfiction that doesn't adhere to actual game lore.>Bu..buh ...but cuckbride wrote on reddit...Also fanfiction
>>737174639iirc doesn't the tr one have a bunch of tracks that only play in telvanni lands and shit since it's like a decade old
>>737178690It's been referred to as Cyrodiil City in canon since the PGE1 though
>50 years until PC gets to the barrowlands or valley of altars>Will probably be cut by then
>>737178014Because, in-universe, it objectively makes much more sense for people to refer to the place by a real name in casual speech than calling it "The Imperial City" every time. Same reason the Morrowind voicelines all tend to refer to the race as "Cyrodiils" instead of "Imperials".
>>737178825PGE1 never appeared in game.It hasn't been referred to as cyrodiil city SINCE pge1. PGE1 is the ONLY place where the Imperial City was mislabeled.
>>737179079And? It's still a canon document that exists in-universe, therefore Cyrodiil City is a real term used within the setting, which makes sense since referring to the Imperial Province as Cyrodiil and to the Imperial people as Cyrodiils are both also canon and they're not trying to be faithful to anything released after Morrowind
>>737166080https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/47580
>>737178825pge1 is contemporary to the second era, and the actual text of the document -exclusively- refers to it as Imperial CityAnd the actual document, though written in classic imperial doublespeak, is more comprehensive and trustworthy than a map from the same source that doesn't even mark any settlements in the north or east of the country
>>737174342You do realize having fewer interiors means there's less actual city in Almalexia, right?
>>737178014If you need a real-life comparison it's just like Constantinople vs. Istanbul. Constantinople is its founding name, but the people who lived there and in its cultural sphere took to calling it Eis ten Polin, The City because of that prominence, which got corrupted to Istanbul when the Turks took over. Cyordiil City gets called 'the Imperial City' by a lot of people because it's the imperial seat, but its official name is Cyrodiil.
>>737178956They'll get to Sancre Tor within your lifetime, which is somewhat similar.
>>737181993It's name wasn't really changed to Istanbul until 1930, 500 years after the Turks took it.
>>737182440That's in an official sense. Legally speaking. Everyone was already calling it Istanbul colloquially in the Ottoman Empire by then. Anyway, it's simply meant to be an illustrative example of a similar situation, not identical.
So is Anvil going to be the next biggest city in Cyrodiil after the imp city?
>>737182049Sancre Tor is the barrowlandsAnd I'm skeptical, PC has jumper cables hooked up to PT but that's still many releases out even if they decide to head north instead of southAnd there's also always the massive asset hurdle once they run out of colovian settlements to reuse Anvil stuff in, and with new biomes
>>737150851advice for starting a new mage? dunmer only.
>>737183103Pick the good skillsDon't pick the bad skills
>>737183004No I think that's intended to be Bravil, which is concepted as a massive stinking sprawling slum hell. Only Anvil, Skingrad, and Bravil are going to be Tier 1 cities (metropoli.)
>>737183143ty anon
>>737183056I believe their current plan is to travel up the Hammerfell border until they hit Sancre Tor and Artemon so it's physically possible to walk into Skyrim's Falkreath (which is after Markarth Side and is hopefully out by then) and then double back to finish up Colovia with Skingrad and Delodiil. So release order is something like Sutch (next release) -> Kvatch and Sarchal (already being worked on) -> Chorrol -> Sancre Tor and maybe Artemon.
>>737183278Here's hoping 2035
>>737183340Hey on the bright side you'll be looking at Almalexia or Dres 1 by then too.
>>737177285>retard>retard>retard>retard>retard>retard
>>737183373Almsivi willing
Will Skingrad still have Janus Hassildor?
>>737183719No, he has been a vampire for about 50 years before Oblivion starts.
>>737185254Isn't Morrowind only 4 years before Oblivion?
>>737185518Is it? I thought it was at least 50 years.
>>7371855186 years, but close.
>>737185561No. Morrowind is like year 427 or 428, I can't remember and Oblivion is like 433.
>>737167314>unused roomDon't these actually exist for the sake of dialogue filters?
>>737154764>semicircular wall of rocks facing the city>instead of carving the amphitheater out of the rocks, they build the amphitheater the other way and have the rocks be like an artificial barrier around the other sideYeah that doesn't make much sense.I do enjoy the greek polis layout with the acropolis and everything though.
>>737188782Not all rocks are good for carving, anon. Building-quality stones need to be quarried and brought to the site of construction.
>>737162561Even if they don't have a literal railroad, realistically they'd still have some wooden rails for moving cargo. Or roads positioned alongside waterways so animals on land can pull cargo loaded on barges.I always found it odd that mines in morrowind are basically just caves and have no tracks or delivery systems. Then again, they have slaves.
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I am going insaneI need to play Morrowind now
Skinny looking lizards
>>737194974You might not like it but that's how the perfect plantation physique looks like.
>>737150851Oblivion didn't need a remake like Morrowind did. If there was a remake I would actually play it.
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>>737195992kys
>>737195992What is it that keeps you from playing regular Morrowind?
>>737196208>What is it that keeps you from playing regular Morrowind?
>>737150851Thanks doc
>>737196376IT'S RNG YOU PLEB
>>737150851>Morrowind.net when?>Ostim Morrowind Edition When?
>>737196376Fixed with literally one mod if you don't feel like learning the actual mechanics>b-but it's a shit game if I need mods to enjoy itWell you can either fucking LEARN IT or mod it and you will enjoy it
