Why did we stop using CRT monitors and TVs?
>>737161983Because we're in the future, chud.Deal with it.
>>737161983because a 55+ inch CRT would way 400 kilograms
>>737161983Low quality pictureHigher wattageContains hazardous materials Really heavy and bulkier
>>737162123>wayi meant weigh
>>737161983Cathode Ray Tubes are fucking awful for fine details. There's a reason text had to be big and blocky back in the day. Resolution is dog water
CRTs take up way more space than flatscreens and they are pretty heavy. They got phased out due to flatscreens just being way more convenient.
>>737161983Simplicity's sake, cheaper resources, CRTs having more safety standards in their manufacturing.
>>737161983HeavyMost had terrible picture quality
>>737161983Because the quest/message text in Dead rising was fucking unreadable
>>737162248Except we had HD CRTs for a short time. It was entirely bulk and weight that killed CRTs.
>>737161983too heavy to ship/move generallylow resolutiongenerally smaller screensize wiseI love mine though, it's perfect for playing old games. it's some old mistubishi but it has S-video and that's all I really need or want.
>>737161983What are you 15? Stupid fucking question mate
>>737161983Oh boy, let's turn on this CRT>Bzzzziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
>>737161983Low quality, higher power draw, much more massive. There is LITERALLY no advantage to using a CRT over an LCD, 0.
>>737161983the biggest CRT was 55'' and they need a literal forklift to ship it.
>>737161983>memory cardBut what does the TV remember? I don't see controller ports or a disc slot for Playstation games.
>>737161983>big>*iiiiiiiiiiiiiie*>heavy>radiation>massive power draw>color bleed was used by retro devs but was a downsite for non retro game contentThis kinda
>>737161983Because flat panels take up far less space. Even a small CRT is chunky and heavy. If you have never actually seen a real one they are about as deep as they are wide and often take 2 people to lift.
>>737161983>Normies prefer thinner lighter displays >The moment LCDs become cheaper to produce compared to CRTs manufacturers ditch CRTs asap It's that simple
Because retards wanted thinner screens that looked worse and cost less.
>>737161983Inferior, outdated tech.
>>737161983They weigh too much and take up too much space are the actual reasons. If they could be made the size and weight of other screens and put anywhere easily people would still buy them.
>>737163516ok granpa... Here your pills.
>>737161983It's trans coded
>>737163648>take up too much spacethat isn't true when we have 100 inch LCDs now
>>737161983Because they look like that.
>>737163189Channels probably.
>>737163904An equivalent CRT would be like having a small car sitting in your living room.
>>737163904https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZxOuc9QwkHere anon the biggest crt even made, the point is not that they could not make it bigger, the point is that if they made it bigger than this it would weight a shit ton and worth more than 10k
>>737161983Cool BVMOLED > CRT > Plasma > Mini-LED > LED > LCD > Dot Matrix
>>737164002Don't care about that, just saying you can't complain about size when we have huge TVs now
>>737164165>This TV that can be mounted flat on a wall and so take up minimal space is the same as one that would literally be like having a Volkswagen Beetle parked in your living room both in terms of size and weight
>>737161983I don't know why retards brag about how good the black levels on CRTs are. There are no blacks in that image. The glass on a CRT is never black. The only benefit is the motion handling and input lag compared to LCDs.
>>737164289Just like OLED, they look best in a pitch black room
>>737163441>heavy>radiationretard
>>737164289CRTs aren't backlit. The phosphors produce their own light meaning they can switch on and off like a lightbulb. As such when "off" they can actually do black unlike a backlit screen which can at best only do dark grey.
>>737164230>somehow everyone was able to make room for a TV 20 years ago, but now it's impossible!
I like how much more power-efficient flat panels are compared to CRTs.
>>737164346Now we don't have to so we don't.
>>73716434620 years ago... Try 40 years ago anon.
>>737164319CRTs don't even come close to OLED blacks (or even plasma blacks) in a dark room. I own 7 of the fucking things and their black levels have never been a standout feature. Motion clarity is the main reason to use a CRT. It's simply in a different realm to sample and hold displays. All the shit about how games look on them can be faked with shaders, but the motion clarity can't. At least not yet. We'll see how CRT beam shaders and such progress as display refresh rates get higher and higher. Eventually CRTs may finally be obsolete and I can throw out most of mine, but we're not there yet.
I remember being annoyed by how blurry the text was in a video game when playing on a CRT TV. My brother connecting our 360 to the computer monitor with an HDMI cable was a night and day difference; everything was crystal clear in comparison.
>>737164435Most people still had CRTs back in the mid 2000s, retard.
>>737164459i remember when my monitor broke back in the day and i had to use my tv to use my computer... MAX RES, every thing maxed. CAPS ALL THE TIME!
>>737161983It's pretty primitive when you think about it. You are just shooting electrons at a screen so it lights up. Modern screens use complicated solid state physics to output certain wavelengths of light from a flat surface.
>>737164453>All the shit about how games look on them can be faked with shadersNah. You can get an approximation but it's not as good as the real thing.
last game i remember playing before upgrading to HD was Persona 4 and all that reading took a toll on my eyesight. still have Trinitron in the game room tho.
>>737164453What the fuck does motion clarity even mean? Especially when CRT image quality is so bad anyway I can't see how such "clarity" could even matter meaningfully.CRTs ARE outdated grandpa, no amount of cope will change that.
>>737164459Yeah, pretty crazy how a console designed for HD resolutions would look bad on a 480i screen
>>737164342Yea no shit. But you still have to view the picture through the glass which is not black and lights up to grey no matter what. The same with Plasma. Plasma TVs had glass screens with the same problem. Plasmas never got true black.
>>737164481anon most crt in 2000 were the small ones i had a 14" for the longest time, father had a 23. We had to put it on a really solid rock table because anything else would just fail to hold it. Today we have a 50" nailed to the wall and i can take it down alone.
>>737161983Because CRTs are gigantic, heavy boxes. That's really the reason. If CRTs were as compact as LCDs, then we would have never moved to LCDs.
>>737161983>heavy>limited size>high power consumption>high maintenance>lethal shock hazard>low clarity>color depth is achieveble with other displays>burn inThe only possible thing you could argue CRTs are surperior in is inbewteen motion clarity, but then you have to trade off with everything else.>t. PVM 20" fag
>>737164650>heavywhat are you gay?>high power consumptionnot true>lethal shock hazardno one has ever died to a CRT>low claritybetter motion than any modern display>burn innot even close to as bad as OLED
>>737164650>>high maintenance*SMACK* Fixed it lol.
>>737161983I hate CRT fags sooo much it's unreal.CRT morons would look at this blurry ass face and textures/graphics and tell you it looks splendid.Fuck you i hope you all get that CRT tv crashing into your heads, perfect death scenario.t. boomer, had CRTs, always hated scanlines.
>>737164772until the fyback die for all the retard slaps you gave.
>>737164859You can only see the scanlines like that on a real CRT if you are literally 1 foot away from the screen.
>>737164650In between motion clarity can be mitigated with black frame insertion on OLEDs.
>>737164761>what are you gay?I care about my back and my desk not imploding>not trueIn comparison to modern displays, yes>better motion than any modern displayI literally outlined that>not even close to as bad as OLEDIf you are talking OLEDs from 10 years ago, sure>>737164772I have no counter to this
>>737164859I'm almost sure the majority of crt faggots are autistic uncs and zoomers fascinated with old sht... I cannot stress how happy i was when i finally trashed my old crt monitot and got a led instead 20 years ago
>>737164954VA display?
CRTfags are insufferable. There is absolutely no contest with LEDs, especially OLEDs, full stop. I am old enough to have had not one but two CRTs growing up, my parents upgraded to a larger one at some point. There's no comparison. Im sitting in front of a QDOLED right now and the visual quality is so far beyond a CRT its insane, I practically want to cum when I look at HDR footage on this thing.
>>737164894>the SOUL disappears if you're more than one foot from the screenCRTfags is this true????
>>737164908ShaderBeam is better than BFIhttps://github.com/mausimus/ShaderBeam
>>737165159For the specific use case of playing old games that were designed to be displayed on one then it's a nice thing to have for a hobbyist but otherwise I agree modern flat screens are superior in pretty much every way.
>>737164002>>737165164this guy plays some games in a giant crt... Man i was born in the 80's and i had A LOT of tv during my lifetime and i swear to god i never had seen these lines and we would probably slap the tv to fix the image if this lines were forming. Unless of course, you were playing stupidly close to the tv and no one did that.
why do discussions of crts only talk about tvs and ignore the fact that pc monitors were crts too and even shitty ones could display 1024x768 at 60hz? is it because /v/ is full of consolefags that didn't get into pc gaming until after steam had gotten big?
>>737165459Monitors are just small tvs, its the same tech. Doesnt matter if you specify them.
>>737165531this, some tv by 2000's even came with vga sockets and some rare hdmi here and there.
>>737161983because a shader looks just as good if not even better
>>737161983>retro gaming>on a sony PMWnobody played on CRT TVs like this one. 99% played on some shadow mask CRT.
>>737161983Because they stop producing it???
>>737161983noise, weight, size primarily. there is nothing else that triggers a human female as much as a crt tv.
>>737162123I had a first Gen HDTV. It was a 40 inch magnavox one that looked kinda like Pic related. It kicked ass because my 360 games looked great on it but so did my gcn and ps2 games. But it also weighed hundreds of pounds and was a huge pain in the ass to move around.
>>737161983Because when they start wearing out many of them turn green, like the one in the pic.
>can't find a good crt anywhere anymore
bigheavyuse tons of electricityrequires specialized knowledge and training to maintain/repair
If you're looking specifically into good CRT, you're going to spend a lot, because the person that cared enough to write the model name, probably cared enough to do basic research.You just have to look for "crt" and find a gem.
>>737164859>t. boomer, had CRTs, always hated scanlines.Great bait.
>>737161983I don't know, OP. Why don't you tell us after trying to carry one of these around?
>>737161983move on with the times gramps. those ancient monitors are so old and busted, can't event do widescreen
>>737167441Up to 25" is fine, 27" becomes a problem if the chassis is big (especially if they've slapped big speakers into them) Any man whose is moderately fit should have no problem lifting and moving these things around up to at least the 25" ones.I have one of these though (not pic I pinched it from reddit) and this weighs 86kg and is a fucking bastard to move around. Definitely the heaviest one I will ever own. I bought a trolley rated for 250kg with a hydraulic lift - bit overkill but it's handy for lots of things - and I highly recommend anyone getting into the hobby to get one for the larger sets especially if you don't have help because you only live once and doing your back in moving a TV from your car inside so you can play mario kart with the lads isn't worth doing your back in over.
>>737167062> requires specialized knowledge and training to maintain/repairthey can actually be repaired quite easily, long as you know better than to lick the 15kV live wire. last one i tried to fix up had full circuit diagrams and parts lists in the service manual. not to mention they work without a wifi connection, eula, and privacy policy. admittedly modern TVs can (sometimes) be repaired too, its just not worth it because TVs no longer cost 2 months worth of rent.
>>737168725>I bought a trolley rated for 250kg with a hydraulic lift>but I see no problems whatsoever
>>737168580Jesus, why not just use VR
