With the capitulation of the EU victory is assuredThe holy crusade to give games eternal life is the greatest cause
>I WANT TO GRIND A UBISOFT LIVE SERVICE GAME FOR DECADESThis is a bad thingKilling games is a good thing
>>737162692better those live service plebs are playing some old game rather than giving ubisoft money in a new game, no?
>>737162692Every game is "live service" if the asshats selling it say so. So many games are just tied to shit for no reason.We should make things better, maybe this will shift the overton window to start making people own software again too.
growing up is realizing that russia and china are the good guys
>>737162836These retarded subhumans should give their money to proper devs or get the fuck out of my medium.
>>737162692>COMPANIES ARBITRARILY REMOVING ACCESS TO THINGS I PAID FOR IS GOOD. I LOVE COCK DOWN MY THROATOnly in America.
>>737163150>NO DON'T TAKE AWAY MY COW SHIT I WAS STILL EATING ITOnly in the UK.
>>737163080privet cumrag tardovich
Why do people argue and fight so hard against their own rights?
Because you shouldn't have purchased an always online live service cash shop DLC gacha "game" in the first place.
>>737163287Americans are corpo slaves down to the DNA. Only the Japs are worse in that regard, but both will fight tooth and nail to prevent themselves from getting stronger consumer rights.
>>737162576looks like doug walker
>>737163326>i had to get plowed in the ass so should you
>>737163679>phoneposting frognigger I'm pretty sure the people raging about their live service slop getting shut down are the ones who got plowed in the ass, not the gamers who avoid that trash.
>>737163679What's wrong with that logic?
>>737162576But that will kill live service FOMO games
>>737163713Why do you enjoy plowing people in the ass? Are you a homo-sexual?
>>737163080Growing up is realising the unelected, soros-backed, globalist EU bureaucrats are the only decent guys. Everyone else sucks.
>>737163730No but if I have to get plowed then why shouldn't I do all I can to make sure others suffer the same fate?Why should you go unplowed?
>>737163827Why would you go through all that extra effort?
>>737162692based
>>737163080But I like indoor plumbing.
>>737162692I thought SKG was going to kill video games?Why can't you corporate vermin keep your retarded opinion straight?
Let me get this straight. You want companies to be forever responsible for every game they've ever made, to keep them compatible with every new operating system regardless of how long has passed since their release, to keep every MMORPG ever made constantly running with eternal updates, bugfixes etc. and you want them to do it all for free?And you don't see any problems with this?
>>737165053The ejew will fix it. Trust the plan. It's not like service based games such as mmos will just not be imported to the ejew.
>>737165053No, actually. I want to implement testicle-biting dwarfs to follow around any person that has ever made a game and randomly torment them. It's all in the initiative, read it some time.
>>737165053No. I want companies to stop designing games such that they would require that degree of dedicated maintenance in the first place.
>>737163080It's not normal to have a relative that still shits in an outhouse.
>>737162576Stop Killing Games or else GDI
>>737162692This is a fucking fantastic things.Devs are going to think twice about Live Service games because they know legally they need to maintain it forever or hand the keys over which they'll never do.Hopefully it kills off Live Service garbage for good.I don't even give a fuck about preserving this shit, I just want them to die off.
>>737165179You were forced into buying an mmo license.
>>737165053No, Maldavius Figtree. The petition is about companies having to specify what they intend to do when a game is sunset, which the corporation is free to define as "fuck you lol" and have no support at all in the worst case
>>737165240That's one way to look at it if you want to be a disingenuous faggot and ignore the point
>>737165249But kiwitranny, mmos are sunset when they don't have enough engagement and are bleeding money.
>anti-skiggers visibly, quantifiably lost>they STILL repost the same long-debunked pilpul from a year agoWhat's the objective?
>>737165016If an autistic subhuman were to grind The Crew for the rest of us life he would stop buying new video games, which would be considered "killing video games" to some>SKG fan>Is a schizo who thinks anyone who disagrees with him is a hivemindlol
>>737165053They could just allow people to host private servers like every fucking game did back in the past anyways.
>>737165304Then cut official support and allow players to run their own servers
>be gamedev's grandson>curse him every day of your miserable existence>you have never seen the sun or the sky>you were born here, in this stinking, humid hellhole>the whirr of the fans is ceaseless and loud>your hearing is damaged, your growth stunted, your eyes pained by all light, your skin a sickly pale pallor, your hair coming off in clumps>the servers have to be kept up>you slave away here>your sister is pregnant>the EU agents forced you to mate with her>your children will be born here>they will die here>the servers have to stay up>why grandpa?>why did you have to be a gamedev?This is the future SKG is fighting for. A hellish slavery for everyone whose relatives have ever worked on a video game.
>>737165382Finally, utopia, with a state-supplied sister-wife to fix your server-heated chef boyardee.
>>737162692With games now receiving patches to even be playable day 1 and being tied to updaters and authentication services by default, this is not limited to live service slop, this encompasses all games.If the rights to a game are passed to a company that has a vested interest in shutting it down to prevent competition with their own software or asking for a ransom for continued functionality, then update functions let them push patches that disable key features.This is not some unimaginable practice of le slibbery slobe, this is the de facto standard for how the software industry is run, whether it be smarthome slop being bought by private equity that starts asking for monthly subscriptions, or a company like Autodesk buying up their competition to shut down their competing service.As it stands there is no protection for the end user of software licenses that have been bought once with the expectation of functioning in perpetuity.>Oh muh physical will save meYeah, the physical that is being increasingly phased out (digital storefronts, Switch keycards), effectively just LARPing (day 1 patches, additional features locked behind online) and ultimately still tied to hardware that needs online authentication (needing to register the disc drive of the PS5 online, Switch 2 bricking if you do a no-no).
>>737165306What's the plan? Virtue signal harder for two more years without a single solution?>>737165351Reverse engineered server emulators are open source and you can compile them at any time you want if the fans decide to reverse engineer them that is. Ain't no one wasting money, time and energy on retroactively swapping server components and retrofitting a server cluster workload into a server binary for lan.
>>737165445Get off your arse and find a sister-wife for yourself like the gamedevs of old such as Matthewmatosis did
>>737165382>SKG guarantees generational income for eternity to everyone that worked on a live service gamepraise the mold
>>737165507No, I want the state to provide her and also my rent for the server-hovel.
>>737162692>add online requirement>game can now be murdered at will, regardless of genrenice work, retard.
>>737162576>games will be regulated and taxed even more now>but at least concord 5 stays up foreverially with 0 players
>>737165568SKG = Redditfrog EUESL tourist thread for discussing ecelebs
>>737165595>and taxed???
>>737165608>add frog>seething retard has an aneurysm and admits he's got no rebuttalinteresting. More testing should be done
>>737163150unironically yespeople who buy shit from corpos like you should be punished, not rewardedasking nanny government to help with your shit-eating habits means the rest of us have to deal with more shit in our peripheral vision>>737163287>when the consoom brain hits you so hard you only imagine a game as something a corporation can produce and yourself only as a customer
>>737165568>regardless of genreBut it's live service specific?
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY FAVORITE BAR CLOSED DOWN?>DO THEY NOT KNOW I WENT THERE SOMETIMES?>SUE THE OWNERS RIGHT NOW AND FORCE THEM AND THEIR FUTURE CHILDREN TO STAY OPEN UNTIL THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE REEEEEEEEE>EVERYTHING SHOULD KEEP EXISTING FOREVER
>>737165696Please explain in detail how a publisher not taking your purchases away is "more shit for you to deal with"
>>737165595>make concord 5>enslave your family and eventually country in perpetuity to maintain the ancient infrastructureMaybe don't make a bad game next time. Actions have consequences.
islam is the next big thing, anon. have you converted yet?
>>737165696>asking nanny government to help with your shit-eating habits means the rest of us have to deal with more shit in our peripheral visionThe unbelievably obvious outcome here would be that the shit you're complaining about naturally dying out as it becomes a net drain on companies who choose to keep trying to make it
>>737165725At the moment.People who have seen the industry consistently fuck the consumer at every opportunity are not willing to take the risk that this behaviour will not be expanded to other games.There already are single player games with pointless online requirements.
>>737165795uncslop from the 7th century :skull:
>>737165795I don't really want to get assfucked by like 30 dudes to emulate the prophet.
>>737165817>At the moment.Fuck you mean at the moment? Live service games are seasonal games that require constant updating for the game loop to work.>There already are single player games with pointless online requirements.Which are those? Gachashit with a p2w store?
>>737165687>say fact>U SEETHING?
>>737165746>buy a car>manufacturer turns off your car>no refunds
>>737165885Are you too new to remember simcity?
>>737165885A chunk of the Assassin's Creed series require you to connect to Ubisoft's servers to playDiablo 4 caused a huge shitstorm when it forced everyone to be online to play solo and then couldn't handle the amount of players so nobody could play at all
>>737165696>people who buy shit from corpos like you should be punished, not rewardedI don't faggot, but millions of retards do and they ruin my hobby in the process. I will vote with my vote and support a law that will tard wrangle everyone to do the right thing and no amount of "muh free market, muh vote with your wallet" is going to change my mind.
>>737165319>SKG fanthis really demonstrates how utterly retarded and non-human you are thank you
>>737165053So let me get this straight. You want a company that you bought a dildo from, to not be allowed to deny you from using said dildo, without compensating you? You must be a bolshevik.
>>737165924>rent a car>cry because you don't own the carLearn how licenses work pls.>>737165939>>737165998>cracked 1.0 version gamesThose are archived already. What's the actual purpose of SKG? Ruin ARPGs and MMOs?
>>737165595Here's a crazy idea. It's really successful and has made millions too:Don't make live service garbage for non-human rats with no taste and you'll make plenty of money.
>>737166041Ah, but the companies did not sell me a licence! And this has already been ruled on by the EU courts. You lose, sir.
>>737166041Damn cool story, but the button in the store said "Buy", not "Rent"I don't know where you're getting your games.
>>737165885Hitman's online functionality is totally retarded bullshit that should have sunk the franchise but retards like you bought it so instead I have to use lawfare to end the practice by force.
>>737166041I've been scouring the page for the rent button and I can't seem to find it.Can you give me a hand and point it out?
>>737166078They did actually. Every single article states that ubishit revoked all licenses after shutting down the crew.>>737166114So even optional multilplayer stuff is now on the table, archived singleplayer wasn't enough?
>>737166110>>737166141It's called the EULA.
>>737166183You mean the thing that was nowhere to be seen when you clicked on the "buy" button?
>>737166183>EULA only becomes available after a purchase has been madeThis doesn't hold up in any court and you know it. You're grasping at straws.
>>737166183But the button said buy. If they lied on the store page that needs addressing.If they lied on the EULA, well luckily for them it's not legally binding so they can get away with that one.
>>737166210The thing you agree to when you enter you game key on your {publisher} account.
>>737163827The quintessential thirdie mindset. Rather than wish for your society to become better where people won't get plowed in the ass you strive to further degrade it.
>>737166220He must be American, they have a ruling that says if you unwrap the box the EULA is in you already agreed to it
NOOOOOOOOIt CAN'T be the company's faultIt was YOU
>>737166242Sorry I clicked on the buy button and you accepted my money for the product. Anything after that is bullshit.
Watching the bootlickers in action is a reminder of how really is nice it is to see that evil people, or at least those working for them, are genuine retards.
>>737166263You bought the license key.
>>737166275No I bought the game as it was advertised. Nowhere was "renting" or "licence keys" mentioned. It said "game X price" which I paid and you accepted.
>>737166251>be me>go to america>buy used car>put an envelope in it that says 'i can take possession of this car anytime I want'>re-sell car to fat american>?????>profit
>>737166318Coping won't change reality of how MMO services or license work.
You can really tell when the paid corporate sold are in full force
>>737165319And he would be entirely within his right to do that. Or is buying new games a duty of gamers? A slave like you probably thinks that.
>>737166350Coping won't change the reality that your bullshit does not actually fly in the real world in big boy court.
>>737166350Good pointSomeone should do something to address thatMaybe start some kind of movement about it...
>>737166350Coping won't change reality that licences are regulated by laws, and we can change laws.
>>737165053Yes but that's not what SKG is about.
>>737165053>let me get this straight>proceeds to get it like the faggot that he is
>>737166368The English is too good for an Indian.I'm afraid the Americans have to take this one on the chin and start 'tard wrangling their own.
>>737166350Why shouldn't we just change how everything works to benefit the individual?
>>737166251I must be american to not want a retarded, dysgenic amerikike retard like ross ruining my seasonal slop. >>737166378You're delusional.>>737166384>Maybe start some kind of movement about it...So where are the solutions? Where's the github repo for the replacement open sores components that will help devs hecking preserve the games?
>>737166417>>737166425>has to reply on two devices to be less obvious in his samefaggingLooks like I struck a nerve. But you've been unmasked. Found out. Exposed. SKG is not about games, it's about crippling American companies. Hanging millstones around their necks and letting them drown. It's a ploy by America's enemies, and EU is one of the biggest of those enemies.You don't care about games.
>>737166479No it isn't communist.Also not me.
>>737166473If I am you wouldn't be so mad about the government coming to slap you up-side the head for you bullshit.
>>737166183>The EULA is above the lawAhh its a gollum
>>737166471>Why shouldn't we just change how everything works to benefit the individual?You mean kinda like shutting down a dead mmo that is bleeding money?>>737166515Fuck your kike government.
>>737166183When will burgers understand that we can wipe our ass with the EULA in the EU.
>>737166534That's nice child. Now assume the position.
>>737166012SKG is a cult. This is why there's such a fixation on streamers and other gay shit in all of these threads. See the below posts as evidence>>737165249>>737165595
>>737166554Dilate.
>>737166479Yes, it's a conspiracy by the EU to kill the American game industry so that tax revenue from it can't be sent to Israel.
>>737166534>You mean kinda like shutting down a dead mmo that is bleeding money?How does that benefit me personally, whomst wants to keep playing the game?Why not just release the server software?
>>737166574Sorry kid but calling them trannies isn't going to stop them from making you follow the relevant regulations.
>>737166543When you prove it.
>>737166473I've got to admit, you lasted a lot longer before you went mask off and started openly seething about having lost.
>>737166582Yeah sure you were so eager to play it that the game had no players left so it shut down. >Why not just release the server software?Why not reverse engineer it since no one is wasting resources to port that shit to a server binary?>>737166612>themShut up tranny.
>Politicians gather to publicly discuss SKG and everyone in the room is in open support of the initiative, even the boomers who don't play videogames>anti-skg faggots take severe mental damage and go insaneOh thats funny
>>737166642>Why not reverse engineer it since no one is wasting resources to port that shit to a server binary?But why not just force companies by law to release the binaries so we don't have to waste our time on something that might be impossible?
>>737166639Keep crying about your baby's first ubishit mmo getting shut down. >>737166672Why would anyone even make seasonal games if you had to to retrofit components after the game dies?
>>737166672If a company can't squeeze more money out of a game then why should anyone ever be allowed to play it again? Do you even fucking think before you post?
>>737162576it would be funny if ubisoft died before any changes from SKG are actually implemented
>>737166183The EU vastly limits what can be in the EULA and automatically throws out everything that can be deemed unfair to the customer. Furthermore you can't waive your fundamental rights in an EULA. Once an SKG law would be in place or existing laws clearly expanded to leave nl room for interpretation - that'd overwrite any delusional mutt EULA pipe dream.
>>737166654>the politicians like ushow naive
>>737166642>Why not reverse engineer it since no one is wasting resources to port that shit to a server binary?Because publishers go out of their way to make reverse engineering impossible.
>>737166734>Why would anyone even make seasonal games if you had to to retrofit components after the game dies?Yeah it's almost like having seasons for a fucking video game is fucking retarded.
>>737166183EULA is not legally binding in the court.
>>737166743The Crew's EU EULA says you can't play anymore.
>>737166753Nobody likes us, we have to play the people that hate us against one another though.
>>737166753Watch the footage of the meeting. The politicians were either young people who like games or boomers arguing for the sake of their kids.
>>737166768>you actually don't need that softwareYou're a nigger.
>>737166672Why would a company want to operate in a place that force them to do it?
>>737166801Releasing the binaries would be trivial.
>>737166792how naive
>>737166768It is. All games should do it like Deep Rock where you're free to switch to earlier seasons or disable them entirely.
>>737166801To make money.
>>737166801Because it's the world's largest market.
>>737166856nope
>>737166792The first MEP to speak was fucking Axel Voss harping on about copyright. But other than him, and some boomer who clearly didn't understand the movement and thought it was about age verification and lootboxes, everyone else was positive.
I'd like to remind all 'individualist' libertarians in the thread:1. You will never be rich.2. You will never be powerful.3. You will never even be in a position where any level of control over something you've created could possibly even be taken from you (because you are uncreative and borderline retarded).4. Money means nothing.5. Judgement of others means nothing.
>>737166829No it wouldn't because there is a shit ton of licensed components that mmo servers use.
>>737166871lol you going to be selling your games to the third world or are you going to sell them to European with money?That's what I thought.
>>737166901Sell to the actual biggest market
>>737166893Like what?And even then why not just release what they can and let the community patch the rest?
>>737166785No it doesn't say that but I get your point. And multiple EU customer protection state entities gave conflicting interpretations of current law. Some stating it's in the publishers right, others stating it's not, some saying they are required to run servers forever. Fact is EULA terms deemed unfair are invalid. Fact is you can't waive your rights in them.Everything else has to be fought in the legal system or expanded upon by legislators which is happening right now.
>>737166923Which is?
>>737166927Now go fire up your EU copy of The Crew.
>>737166801Because it is worth more money to comply than the compliance costs.
>>737166848How releasing their binaries would help them to make money again?>>737166856That's china, sorry even with immigrant hordes you aren't hitting those population numbers.
>>737166926>just give me the source code of your server, so I can make p2w servers and profit of your ip
>>737166891Wouldn't liberarians be in favour of the movement? As it recognises private property and all. Once I sell someone a car, it's theirs and I no longer own any rights to it, unless it's explicitly "sold" through a rental agreement.
>>737166946You don't know? I think you do.
>>737166962>Oh murder is illegal you say? Well why doesn't my victim resurrect, then? Checkmate!...
>>737166742I will only be satisfied when every IO Interactive employee is publicly skinned, salted, and rubbed with lemons for destroying Hitman.
>>737166991The EU.
>>737166994Is the murderer in jail?
>>737166983How would someone profit? I thought the game had no players and HAD to be killed completely
>>737166983>we can't risk some third worlder making peanuts off this game we stopping caring aboutJust admit you have no real arguments and you don't like SKG because it gives you the ick, woman.
>>737166893MMOs were never going to be affected by this, you disingenuous piece of shit corporate bootlicking vermin.
>>737167024Soon.
>>737166006>no amount of "muh free market, muh vote with your wallet" is going to change my mind.Correct, they get funded with endless taxpayer money. Voting with your wallet does jackshit
>>737167014By what metric?
>>737167030>>737167034>>737167035Sorry, you're gonna have to play the shitty crew private server until ubishit releases The Crew Classic.
>>737166962I can. With the community server project making it playable again rn. I just want the publisher to be forced to provide the tools in the future.
>>737167037So not in jail? Strong law you got there.
>>737167045Money to buy games with.
>>737166981Is it though? You are directly competing with future of your game going offline and free. Waitfags can weather few years for something to hit eos to get it for free forever.
>>737167083I accept your concession.
>>737167082What do you think the initiative is about, genius? Why do you think it exists?
>>737167112Funny as you seem to be bowing out of the argument.
>>737167102Okay then, don't sell in Europe and hope it doesn't spread.
>>737167127That's what I'm trying to figure out since you said The Crew's EULA is illegal in EU but it worked without a hitch there.
So it seems that the crew mmo has already been preserved by reverse engineering™. And these retards are still crying about this game because?
>>737167167But there's an ongoing lawsuit about it?
>>737167167...
>>737167102>to get it for free forever1. You are still free to sell a copy of the game itself2. So what? The cost to you for keeping the game alive has dropped to nothing. You lose nothing from people being capable of experiencing a game you made into the future.
we really need to murder people like this >>737165746
>>737167190Because the publisher needs to be forced to provide the tools going forward, duh.
>Actively belittle, dehumanize, and insult my opponents >Don't actually engage with their non-arguments and simply dismiss them>Only ever gain support from legitimate valued experts on the subject>Constant march to victory>As I remind my opponents they aren't technically peopleSupporting SKG is the greatest high I will ever experience in this life. Nothing has come even close. If I could press a button to make someone's device spit on them for me I would.
>>737167201You can sue companies in the US too. Shouldn't the EU itself step in and punish ubisoft for the clear violation or is the law so weak you have to do it yourself with lawsuits?
>>737167234But the game has already been preserved?
>>737167232No you. Not we.Pussy.
>>737167242Yeau but this one has a chance to succeed over existing EU laws dismissing unfair practices in EULAs. You're welcome.And if not, we get SKG pushing for clear new laws.
>>737167249Is there an adult nearby that can help explain things to you?
>>737167249But the publisher needs to be forced to provide the tools going forward.
>>737167190>>737167249Because projects like this always have the chance of being shut down if corpos decide so. With SKG in effect corpos wouldn't be allowed to shut down "revivals" and private servers anymore without a very good reason.
Why is no one talking about how Microsoft will destroy 30 years of backward compatibility with a new Windows again anyway?
>>737167249yes.illegally by fansif ubisoft wished they could get that preservation shut down.
>>737163080滚开,你这个俄罗斯佬。
>>737163080Delusional. No one is the good guys.
>>737167290So in other words The Crew's EULA is perfectly legal and enforcable in EU and you need SKG to change that.
>>737167327because you can always grab the old windows versions from the Microsoft catalogue.which is what people want other companies to start doing.
>>737167335Technically there's nothing illegal about a server emulator.
>>737167327Because there are no other options, Mircosoft has a total monopoly on computers. If there was another operating system, then maybe...
>>737167327Probably because more and more people are moving to Linux anyways. That includes me. My next PC will be a Linux machine because I'm sick and tired of Winblows but my laptop fucking hates the idea of working correctly with Linux for some damn reason.
>>737167327Phase 2 is bringing this sentiment to all software, not just video games. Give us time.Norway is already preparing with their "enshittification" PSA. Google that.
>>737167362No. That depends on the outcome of the lawsuit and the interpretation of current law.But yes SKG is pushing for stricter, clear, unmistakable new law.
>>737167216>You are still free to sell a copy of the game itselfCome again? Why the fuck would anyone buy a game if it hit eos?
You're welcome.
The Crew status: Preservedhttps://stopkillinggames.wiki.gg/wiki/Dead_game_list
>company doesn't want to support a game anymore>doesn't want to comply with SKG>scale back their server architecture to run on a single 2010 Dell laptop>have the janitor check to see its still running every day so it's "maintained">you can technically connect and play with 1,000 pingWhat stops this?
>>737167350欧洲的青蛙,将在今年夏天被煮沸
>>737167362hey, my friend.slavery was legalrape is still legal in lots of placesthrowing Christians to lions was legalmaking medicine cost shitzillion dollars was legalengland owning america was legalengland owning india was legal (i know you're brown)legality doesn't mean its the right thing.
>>737167446EU doesn't take kindly to malicious compliance either
>>737162576>glance in thread>more lolberts I love companies lobbying the government and their absolute silence but the moment the people do it its a sin.
>>737167446>just make a new server for free when the game is dead, bro
Companies will just not operate in the EU. Simple as.
>>737167435How can you struggle so much with the concept of a game still being playable beyond EoS?
>>737167378cool, not lets make it technically legal for people to host their own servers.we can start a petition to get people to start saving games.im going to go talk to my local EU government member.whats that? it got shot down for being to close to a current running motion? stop killing games? oh well, next time maybe
>>737167446>malicious complianceThat raped Tim Apple lmao
>>737167440Fuck HC trannies and fuck SKG niggers.
>>737167474>legality doesn't mean its the right thing.Which isn't the topic of this discussion. Stay out of this you're too stupid to understand.
>>737167509>companies will just give up on a huge marketEU already whipped companies several times and they sticked around. It's legal to buy used premium licences of software for cheap in EU and yet companies didn't abandom the european market.
>>737167446Nothing. You risk getting sued or forced to refund it tho. Just put an Ethernet cable on that 2010 Dell laptop and let the 3 guys play with 100ms ping. Or sell the dell laptop and give the 3 guys your server binaries or even better, make it so your game was from the ground up designed to comply with SKG demands at eol and you can end support with 0 additional cost and high customer satisfaction.
idk shit about this but from what it looks like it can only be a good thing? can someone explain how it can be bad?
>>737162692>LET ME CONSOOM LET ME CONSOOM UBISHART GAME
>>737167570I don't know how the EU is going to enforce a company in China to keep their live service slop alive though.
>>737167520Sure sounds good. The server emulator is still legal tho.
>>737167570If all games need to get offline patches in eu you will definetely see some games avoid eu.
>>737167592Because uhhhh think of how hard it is for the poor devs to implement player servers :^(
>>737167592it cant, only good things happen
>>737167613By not allowing them to sell in the EU. If they just don't sell in there, then they are also stopping garbage gacha trash from existing in the EU, which is its own good.
>>737167613By not allowing them to release their non-compliant games within the EU market and letting the chinks decide if it's worth it
>>737165053>Let me get this straight.You failed. The initiative is basically asking for dedicated server infastructure so players can host their own servers. Its really fucking simple and all games were like this 10-15 years ago.
>>737167626Stick to your gay arena shooters and your faggot strikes.
>>737165217ROSS LIVES IN DEATH!!!
>>737167592There is nothing bad that can come out of this. The “defenders” are doing mental gymnastics to defend billion dollar companies for some reason
>>737167613Hope that company in china doesn't want to do business or host infrastructure in the EU anymore? If they're okay with that, they're entirely out of thexEU's jurisdiction and nothing will happen. That's spitting on one of the richest consumer markets on the planet tho. Usually companies like money.
>>737167663The child safety laws will totally let you host your own MMO servers from your basement.
>>737167592a billion dollar company might have it's fee-fees hurtplease understand
well now can we get Genshin to EOS so I can play it offline with all characters unlocked? that’s the only reason I signed for this
>>737167706They rake in billions they don't need eu
>>737162692Damn this one struck a nerveEuropoors sure love their live service slop
>>737167707>whataboutismAnd there it is again. Keep seething tranny
>>737167721The new potential EU law will obviously not work retroactively, nigga. Genshin will never be affected.
>>737167664I would like my games to be playable after the devs decide to turn off the servers please
>>737167765don't play slop
doesn’t EU already not get gacha games? Like you can’t sell loot boxes in NL or something right? I think foreign gachas will just release a GLOBAL version and exclude EU out of it, so people just signed to lose access to games just so that they can play the ubishart game when they take the servers offline
But if you let players run their own servers they might say the n-word and not get banned. Ever think of THAT?
>>737167726Yeah that's cool. If they don't want to do business here nothing is gonna happen to them. But most companies will comply to make more billions in the EU.
>>737167747Shut up eunuch. There is a reason why you have to provide an id.
>>737167780The problem could simply not exist in the first place.
>>737163080>end result of growing up and drinking unsafe tap water
>>737167517I struggle so much with the concept of game being sold after eos. Either you end service and move on or you continue service and keep selling game. Do you retards really want to enable corpos to sell you a game with no guarantee of service being provided?
>>737167620Microsoft still supports EU when most people there either pirate winblows or buy a key online for pocket change.
>>737167801not an argument tranny
>>737167726The threat of losing business from a gaggle of dried up Australian housewives is supposedly great enough to move global banks to action but the entirety of the EU isn't enough of a market to get companies to implement a minor change?EU are fuckin losers
>>737167846poor niggers like you isn't why microsoft does business in eu
>>737167848So (You) got nothing, tranny faggot? How are (You) gonna provide parental control services and in what world will (You) be allowed to collect personal information in the first place? How will that be regulated?
>be EU>have to provide id to see porn >can’t do gacha because you might be addicted >30% brown and constantly letting in more muslims as we speak >will soon have to provide id to even install an OS >more and more live service games will skip EU release This is good if you hate live service slop and don’t play them but the regulations about ID and shit are dystopian and you cannot defend them.
>>737167843If you buy a product your entitled to the features and the full working thing shown to you and what can be reasonably expected.
>>737167923US and UK are also moving towards requiring id thoughbeit. chinks always required one in China too. only third world countries don’t
>>737167843>Do you retards really want to enable corpos to sell you a game with no guarantee of service being provided?That was how games were sold for decades. Someone buys your game and then they can go play that game.
>>737165053Yes, and don't forget they owe me a playerbase to interact with too. If there's not enough nornal players to enjoy the game, the company has to employ people to keep the servers populated. Forever.
You can do all of that and yet if the game requires shit like matchmaking and your shitty private server doesn’t have enough people you still won’t be able to play the game. Just give up. no one wants to play concord after it died. only thing this is useful for is gacha and they are slop by definition
>>737167923And how is digital ID related to the topic at hand? It isn't. Stop trying to change the subject.
>>737167923>>more and more live service games will skip EU release
>>737167972We are literally getting live service games getting shut down after a day from their launch. This is the same market as a decade ago.
>>737168026Then they can make it so that the game can if needed make up the numbers with bots. Pretty fuckin simple.
I’m not in EU so I won’t be affected if they choose to withhold games in EU because of this. And if they don’t withhold and comply with the new law, that’s just an easy win. So it’s win win for me.
>>737167972We are not talking about singleplayer games though.For example, do you want to let blizzard selling you wow after it went eos, justifying it as selling access to private servers that might or might not be available while also going after any that doesn't require you to own licensed copy of wow?
>>737167592The only people against this are people who unironicly prefer the bottom half of the image
>>737167907All depends how much business they get from eu. China/Korea/Japan gacha games get a tiny % from eu so yeah they will just avoid eu altogether.
>>737168059>just make a priority queue rotation system to replace players with bots when the game shuts down
>>737168112yeah foreign gachas will be dead in eu after this but we don’t care about them anyway so what
>>737168056>We are literally getting live service games getting shut down after a day from their launchAnd if that ever happened with a game that somebody had paid for but had to work late on launch day and were met with a closed down game the next day when they booted it up that would be fair enough? Too bad dickhead, should have played it sooner.
Is there a way to see how much Genshin (or any other gacha, I only remember the name of this one) makes from each region?
>>737168146Well that's a easy reply but if you go to /vg/ and look at all the gacha threads there is a lot of english speaking fans and many from eu so yeah they will be sad.gacha is just the easy genre to pick out. any game that gets lower sales from eu will have to decide if its worth it.
>>737168185Try looking for quarterly earnings reports.
>>737168174Not paid for but reminds me of seeing a gacha that shut down after 6 hours. Sasuga
>>737168107>For example, do you want to let blizzard selling you wow after it went eos, justifying it as selling access to private servers that might or might not be available while also going after any that doesn't require you to own licensed copy of wow?I see no issue with them selling the game as though it were a singleplayer game once it's hit EoS and leaving you to find a server or run one yourself from the binaries that they released
>>737163080not good but less bad
>>737165696This doesn't hurt independent creators. Because no part of the written word of proposed changes (all available online by the way) would cause undo extra activity to independent devs
gachas are f2p tho will that also be covered in the law
>>737168256>i see no issue with corpos making money from the game they don't support anymoreSmartest corpo shill
>>737168294Why don't you move into either of those countries then?>N-nooo my life would be literally ruinedBut you said they were less bad?>t-they're based and tradThen go live there>N-noooo my standards of living would plummetI see
>>737168342The law would only make it so the F2P fan run server for Nier:Rein wouldn't have been taken down by Square
>>737167734>russian>cut the R-heh
>>737168356So just like they do with any non live service game anyway? That is WILD broCraaaaaazy
>>737165053Provide the minimum viable product, sir.
>>737168342Customers who bought microtransactions would also be protected.
>>737168420>minimum viable productThe game client?
>>737168367?
>>737168437Does that work as a game?
>>737162692let bro play whatever he likes, what's the problem?
>>737168460I mean if you count a login screen and messing around with graphics and sound settings as a game, then sure.
>>737168496Then no that doesn't count.
>>737163080Don't you have toilets to be stealing?
>>737165696>didn't even answer to a single replyYou just know dude is either a baiting retardditor or just completely lost and shat his pants at this points kek
>>737168487We shouldn't allow our fellow man to wallow in garbage if we can help it.
>>737167361I'm the good guy.
>>737165053>using the same boring strawman for the 6 gajillionth time
>>737167446Malicious compliance gets you ass raped in EU courts
>>737167327With Europe moving away from Microsoft and Windows for their infrastructure and security, you unironically probably will see the EU be a lot harsher on Microsoft and their bullshit in the future.
>>737165217MOLD LIVES
>>737165382>guaranteed job>guaranteed wife>guaranteed children and grandchildrenBASED BASED BASED
>>737168616>EU>securityCall me when average eurosexual will be ready to die for their country no questions asked.
>>737168696No one forced you to help us.
>>737168696Binland here, when do we start :D:D
>>737162692>killing Ubisoft is a bad thing
>>737168696What made you think euros wouldn't die for their country no questions asked?Shitmericans dying in the middle east aren't dying for their country btw
Alhamdullilah means 'thank God' or by the 'grace of God'.That meme would be more accurate if Ross Ibn El Scootter said inshallah, which is 'if God wills it'
>>737165382uh, BASED?
>>737165053>"uhm, let me get it straight for y'all, okay": fails to grasp it completely, almost like he's doing it on purpose>>737165304>>737166479>>737167919>starts seething, malding, shitting+pissing his pants about muh trannies IMMEDIATELY after, no argument at all ofcThey aren't sending their best, this shit is genuinely embarrassing to even look at lmao
>>737169090>can't engage with >>737167919>muh hecking transphobiaOkay xister.
>>737169209>>muh hecking transphobiaFigures mentally ill retardditor like yourself would be making things up on the spot, as shown in the entirety of this reply chainAs I said, embarrassing lol
>>737169270Reddit?
>>737165249I heard he gets most mad when people call him a ferret fucker. He was fuming crying and pissing himself when someone was calling him that in some recently shut down mmo and was crying that guy who called him that wasn't getting permabanned
>>737168884They are, dying for you country involves dying to advance its interests, including aggressive ones, not only when you are fighting on your soil.
>>737169454Shut up zogolem
How will Timmy Epic twist this to be somehow Gaben's fault?
>>737169454If you're willing to die so the gas is 10% cheaper you're a retarded muttgolem.
Do retards in this thread seriously think companies would refuse to spend money in order to upgrade their servers so they can keep selling their games in Europe, a market worth billions?
Did the EU back it or is it the usual lip service only to forget about it months later?
>>737169735Upgrading servers will have to wait for the 2030 The Crew™ Classic release. Ain't no one retroactively maintaining a dead game.
The realisation that devs might actually be testing shit in production environments instead of their own offline or private server environment has opened my eyes to the absolute state of software development.
>>737169837It's private and public test servers before a patch hits live.
>>737169897Yeah but with the way they are talking about how it is "impossible" to allow self hosted servers, it makes it seem like they actually do rely on server clusters and not even basic containerisation for basic functionality.
>>737169934They basically spin up a server like a vm on the server cluster. They're not gonna engineer and maintain another server solution for no reason.
>>737169960>for no reason
>>737169981>just do double the work bro
>>737169837Any even remotely competent company is going to have dedicated test servers. Just because some of them might be public doesn't mean that's testing in production.>>737169934At this point, it's safe to assume they're actively and willingly bullshitting when they say that. They know it's possible, they just can't be assed to give the gamers that freedom because then they wouldn't be able to fuck gamers in the ass.
>>737170002God forbid someone do their jobNo no, cut every corner
>>737170027>cutting corners is when you have running server clusters
>>737170002Is it really that much harder with shit like Docker images existing allow for easy portability of server reliant software?t. Brainlet when it comes to anything networking related beyond port forwarding.
>>737170071The problem is that they can't legally distribute binaries with licensed middleware. So basically they would have to use use other solutions to make the servers actually legal to distribute. Severs are not hard to spin up, but porting different scale server solutions and using different scale server solutions is the hard part.
>>737170183Well then they'll need to think of that in development in the future.
>>737170183Did every old game that had private servers have their own proprietary networking solution? Genuinely asking because I never thought about it beyond "I can spin up a server and port forward the IP address of the machine".
It takes being a special breed of subhuman to defend a billion dollar company not being allowed to steal money
>>737170206It's either making their own inhouse middleware components or it's some open source solution.>>737170229So the thing is that when it comes to mmos, you have to basically do guesswork and make the server stack from scratch. The numbers might not be correct, but the individual servers might be faster and to some point more stable than the real deal. It's literally making everything including the aql database from scratch when it comes to private servers becuase they all use a reverse engineered server emulator as a template and they add their own scripts and improve the database.
>>737170229Everything before like 2005 did.
>>737170318>sql database*The idea is to use a stock open source server emulator and make your own additions to it while hosting it in some shithole.
>>737170318>>737170374I'm not really talking about the reverse engineered servers, meant shit like Quake or for a slightly more "modern" FPS like Red Faction. Surely every single one didn't use their own solution and threw in some middleware somewhere.>>737170364If that truly is the case, is this like every game using Unreal now because it is "easier" at the cost of actual innovation and end consumer wants/needs?
>>737167509Absolutely will not happen. The EU market is big enough that dropping any ceo who seriously considers doing it would get fired and replaced immediately. No company is going to just up and drop them.
>>737170318>their own inhouse middleware componentsGood.>or it's some open source solutionBased.
>>737167907You're an idiot if you think a group of Australian women were anything more than a handy scapegoat for something they wanted to do already.
>>737170417I'm pretty sure that quake used an inhouse solution that is similar to peer to peer. MMOs are a bit different because you have to comply with all sorts of laws like online child safety. That's why they're hosted in places without copyright enforcement or general online safety concerns.
>>737166891>1. You will never be rich.My family is already rich after having lost almost our entire legacy wealth to the Communists. Do you want to know how they did this after starting from nothing again?>2. You will never be powerful.I had multiple people urge me to join a party already.>3. You will never even be in a position where any level of control over something you've created could possibly even be taken from you (because you are uncreative and borderline retarded).A municipal government in my country literally passed a law, where people with my world view should not be allowed to buy property.>4. Money means nothing.>5. Judgement of others means nothing.Strange statement after what you said earlier.
>>737170560Correction on quake, it was actually an inhouse client-server model without middleware.
>>737167923>be US>so porn addicted you cant comprehend not letting children watch porn>got such a brown-fetish you sent your white m*n into machine gun-fire on a beach, just so independent nations cant be white>40%white (counting all the mudbloods with 10% black blood)>worship black people so much you celebrate them for a full moon>entire political debate goes like this: republicans are the real racists!! Nono, democrats are the real racists!!!>more white people raped in a year in the US, than in 60 european nations combined>circumsized
>>737166891Reminder that Stirner would make his own server software because IP is a spook
>>737170417Pretty much. It is infinitely easier and much more cost efficient to buy already existing middleware solution than doing everything in house. First wave mmos and multiplaer focused games didn't have that luxury as it literally didn't exist back then, the only way to do it was to fucking do it.
>>737170450It would be based, but SKG doesn't even have a repo listing all the alternatives or pointing to popular server emulators to reuse their solutions as a guide to make porting easier. >>737170417>is this like every game using Unreal now because it is "easier"it's exactly that. These modern engines are monoliths and an inhouse engine is packaging licensed stuff like havok physics and making your own gui with level editors, scene editors, shader editors, etc. on top of that middleware that is cobbled together.
>>737170748It just feels off to me as an end user that whilst shit is easier for development, it has costed something that was pretty normal for games back when I played them religiously.It's like new cars and devices that make it arse to actually fix yourself, something that was just taken for granted back in the day.
>>737170653You act that was some epic ownage but all you did was prove that only rich greedy scum are against SKG. People like you should be outlawed from much more than just buying property. Breathing is a good start.
>>737165053Man i wish SKG was even half as based as shitposters make it out to beYes, i want my own personal crew of devslaves to spent eternity making sure i get to play Little Big Planet 2 whenever i wantIts only a small payment for ruining my hobby with California and MTX
>>737165053No I don't want that, you're retarded and don't understand what's being asked for like a knuckle draggerI'm shocked you're literate enough to be able to make your post
>>737165382
>>737170851I am pro SKG though. I even signed it using the name of my parents and brother. But I do it, because of my Libertarian worldview, not in spite of it. But it's very telling that you murderous Communist fuck are resentful against people like me.
>>737165382>>your sister is pregnant>>the EU agents forced you to mate with herWtf, I love the EU now.
>>737167801>you have to IDWrong. Every nation that has implemented these gay laws targets companies of a certain size.Hosting 100 people on your own MMO server requires nothing of the sort.Kill yourself.
>>737166984>Wouldn't liberarians be in favour of the movement?In theory.
>>737162692trvke
>>737171057oh and in my countries case games are just flat out excluded.>Under the Rules, the below services will be excluded from the minimum age obligation:>Messaging, email, voice calling or video calling>Online games>Services that primarily function to enable information about products or services>Professional networking and professional development services>Education and health services
>>737165382I wish that were me
>>737168367KEK they never have a rebuttal to this
One thing I am glad about is that more technical arguments are being done now rather than "Oh why do you care if a game with less than 100 players gets shut down" like people don't go back to play old games for old times sake all the time.
>mutilated low IQ fat muttoids shrieking and shivering when you mention consumer rights, free healthcare and free educationthe pan-european federation is UNSTOPPABLE
There's one thing that bothers. Let's say SKG passes and devs start releasing server software for us to use. What about the actual info located on official servers? I'm not sure gachafags, for example, would truly appreciate private servers if they still lose all those GIFs they already spent hundreds of dollars and months of grinding on, and something tells me game devs would not be very thrilled about releasing internal databases that contain account info and transaction data. What happens in a situation like this?
>>737171389gdpr will take care of thatstop worrying about random irrelevant details when it's not up to you to decide anyway, just shut the hell up
>>737171389The devs might release a version with all characters unlocked. Or a gacha player might be able to download his save file locally before the game shuts down. It's really up to the developers, the proposal is vague by design to let the devs implement it in the best way that fits their particular game.
>>737168542they are already playing Ubisoft games, so it's not like they have good taste or anything
>>737171389Infinite currency for that kind of p2w server emulator. They're not gonna leak a player database.
>>737171380Donny really needs to kick euroleeches out so they will feel what it is like to pay for their own defense instead of having american taxpayers guarantee it for them.
>>737167923>more and more live service games will skip EU releaseHoly fuck! Make it happen!
>>737171813>i want to have less games to play and force it on everyone else in my region
>>737171962Live service cancer aren’t games to play
>>737171807Lil' Donny is a jewish chabad lubavitch pedophile.
>>737171807notice the typical muttoid double-think>e-europe you must re-arm yourlself or something!!!!!!>NOOOOOOO not like that, we meant you should purchase even more of our muttoid defective trashbtw did anyone tell you that weapons are actually sold and jobs for mutts are made because there's demand for them elsewhere? you are not paying for shit because they are not gibs you moron, but you are too retarded to know that
>>737172039Do you also identify as a woman by chance?
>>737172039So personal freedoms doesn't apply as long as it concerns things you don't like?
>>737165503>Ain't no one wasting money, time and energy on retroactively swapping server components and retrofitting a server cluster workload into a server binary for lan.They will have to do that before the release now. That's why ross proposed that the law shouldn't work retroactively. (that's actually the default for new laws i think, but still)
>>737172639>every new mmo and live service game has to unfairly compete with already established giants on another frontNice way to ensure no new games will be coming to challenge wow, xiv etc and to incentivize those studios to never release sequels.
>>737162576based?
>>737165053retard
>>737172498Yes.
>>737163080Russia and china are literally nigger adjacentThe good guys are Japan and South Korea
>>737174661>The good guys are the biggest corpo bootlickers on the planet
>>737166624And that's exactly what SKG is working on.
>>737167236>If I could press a button to make someone's device spit on them for me I would.You can. Just get employed by Microsoft. It's called "Windows Update."
>>737162692What is this argument that if you own a game that you must play it forever, every single day, nonstop?The cool thing about video games is that you can play them, take however long pause you want and replay at a later date.Why is permanence, ownership and right to repair such difficult fucking concepts for you?
Did you know that you have rights? Constitution says you do, and so do I!
>>737167757>The new potential EU law will obviously not work retroactively, nigga.The 2019/770 directive on sale of digital content *did* largely work retroactively though.It's why Steam today is liable for defects in any title purchased by an EU consumer as far back as the platform's launch date.
>>737165746Good thing you didn't own the barYou took part in its servicesVideo games in general are sold as goods, but games like World of Warcraft or FFXIV are a service. You pay a subscription fee and you know exactly when your time with the service ends.Restaurants are a service, the only tangible thing you have a right to after spending money, is the food. If you do not receive the food, you are within your rights to get compensated. You can't expect the restaurant to stay running indefinitely just because you were a customer there at some point.You don't seem to understand the difference between goods and services.
>>737171807You've got that backwards. Lil' Donnie pulling out of NATO would get actually get THE US kicked out.Kicked out of all their forward bases in Europe, removing their ability to forward-project military power and keep their global hegemony.Kicked out from any arms manufacturing deals and give Europe free reign to rely on domestic industry, or purchase from any other firms that are not aligned with the US military-industrial complex.
>>737175335The argument is SKG only applies to low quality games you shouldn't want to play. Simple as.
>>737163326This is my only problem with this entire operation. Let stupid people get financially molested or else they will never learn.
>>737162576alhamdelilah brother we will behead the dogs of live service slop
The end result is not going to be "no more live service games" or "games exist forever". They'll just sell unprofitable games to shell companies that will immediately declare bankruptcy and shutdown the game anyway
>>737176159>victim blaming
SHABBOLEH HALAM ABDI ASHRSHRAKALLAHU ACKBAR **KABOOM**
>>737176617Yeah, victim of being retarded. It happened to me so many times and I learned to stop.You learn to recognize jews : skinner boxes, more dlcs than years of development, online-focus, etc.They want the SaaS, not the product. The sooner those poor retards start to recognize scum companies, the sooner they enjoy good games made by good devs.
>>737176159They will never learn. Better to punish the publishers and make it harder to make the slop.
>>737176381Retarded take.
>>737177725If Bungie were to close their doors, what would the EU do to keep Marathon from shutting down? Force Bungie to exist? Subsidize the video game to pay for servers? It's obvious that there is nothing the EU can do to stop a gane server from shutting down.
>>737178194Release a server host like a normal game from the 00s.
>>737178194You know what's the funny part? Marathon is an extremely basic game that could easily be made to run on a private server. There is nothing grand that a server would need to process/store.
>>737178253Errrrrrrm thats zamniphobichudual!!! They can't do that!!!!
This kills the shill.
>>737166891>You will never be in a position where something you've created could possibly even be taken from youAwesome!
>>737162576Not so fast
>>737163080
>>737179345licking Platinum's armpits
>>737179289WHAT IS THATWHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
>>737163080Lol b8 post
>>737179357Directive 2019/771
>>737179440Yes and they also bayoneted and ate babies and turned people into lampshades and soap.
>>737179485The Chinese would eat them, yes
>>737176708Suicide bombers are old news, it's all about the aliexpress drones detonating inside of your car now.
>>737165746I fucking kek'd at this, thanks
>>737178692>since they're demanding that we give consumers access to our proprietary server dataAgain. You're not going to get hacked just because your game has a LAN option. And having a LAN option by itself, is enough to fully comply with SKG.
How will this effect the MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+?
>>737179485ME MUM DIED IN DA 'HOLLY
>>737179543What is this LAN you speak of? Uknown technology from Atlantis?
It's so fucking tiring to deal with jeets.
>>737179568AND I GUESS IT'S FUNNY TO AN AWFUL LOT OF FOLKTO HEAR ME MUM'S A LAMPSHADEAND ME DAD A BAR OF SOAP
>>737163080>growing up is realizing thatNo one is the good guys
>>737179625Binland built the internet's meme culture :D:D
Is it really that hard to devs to just release dedicated server tools for their games?
>>737165053The problem with this is that you didn't understand anything at all, or you are just using a strawman argument because you are a disingenous faggot.
HEAR YE, HEAR YEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36qDEeTDXNE
>>737179406it's in the filename, half-life dedicated server.
>>737162576The will of SKG shall be done.Execute all corporations in the name of the mold.We shall all gain 70 brang new games for our sacrifice!
>>737180648He's so smug
>>737163080the only good guys are the weathly countries that you don't ever hear about
>>737180879What, like Singapore?
>>737180775Mashallah
>>737179625No wonder the Internet has gone to shit
>>737180775>>737181019KEK
>>737181376Government intervention is a last ditch effort when everything else fails because letting the industry do what it wants have so far proven to be nothing but a strict negative that have been fucking us for well over 2 decades now, and when people try do their own thing, that same industry always uses the government to fuck people over.Here in France we still have plenty of absurdly retarded restrictions to "protect against piracy" because when the movie and music industry started making their services shittier, people started pirating in response and corporations went crying to daddy government that the evil pirates were destroying the industry.
>>737179625we need to go back
>>737181376Government intervention was the final recourse, nothing else had worked.
>>737181376
Ferret status?
>>737180830I'd be smug too if my autistic crusades got this far.
>>737162692I personally don't care about anything corpo wants or whines about it. I also don't care about anything poor people want or whine about it.
>>737169454So you confirm that amerigolems aren't dying for their country.
>>737165053You can still play Unreal Tournament you fucking shill.
>>737181376But the digital ID is happening no matter what, this bears absolutely no relation to that subject. Why are you trying to deflect?
>>737165053That's not what this is about and you know it.It just means that if you buy a PS5 game and insert it into PS5, then you can be certain that you'll be able to play.
>>737167592The same way that nothing bad can come from getting rid of lootbox gambling in gamesNow we have battlepasses that make you play games like a full time job to unlock shitThey'll always find something worse in order to make a quick buck
>>737165053You know what? Yes, fuck itAnd I hope they go bankrupt doing it
>>737166479Uguu, poor billion dollar companies...
>>737162576At first glace this is encouraging. The lobbying against this could be fucking brutal. Changes here could have much wider vibrations to digital distribution rights and copyright law in the EU. I fully expect to see interested parties outside of the video game sphere against it in July.
>>737180648based
>>737165053All they need to do is allow their client to connect to privately hosted servers as well as release compiled server binaries so anyone can host their own server
>>737162576He was siting in the big room with all the EU politicians, expelling spores the whole time. He has them under his mold mind control now.
>>737182375kys leftist tranny scum
NCSoft gave the biggest City of Heroes private server an official license to run. I wonder if we'll see more of that in the future because of this.
>>737167826>unsafe tap waterThat must be American thing
>>737168569nigga it's a falseflag by SKG supporteralso it always racks in the (You)s
>>737167509Yeah yeah just like apple right ? Oh, wait, they have usb C now
>>737181962
>>737162576Very nice.
>>737181962>government finds out it is much easier to collude with corporations than appease public>population gets fucked twice as hardThis is exactly what happened in US.
>>737162692>anon too retarded to see the companies will have to shift to non live service gamesthis is why you took the short bus to school
>>737171389I at least you can cheat in peace on private servers so you will probably able to give yourself +99999 of the premium currency
>>737162576The fire rises
>>737183338I mean they're literally just already doing that. There's no "Finding out". This is still something that advantages us.
>>737182113Destabilizing middle east around Israel is USA policy as a country, dying to make it happen is dying for your country and its overreaching interests. Always was and always will be, from days of Rome and Alexander to ww2 and modern conflicts.
>>737183353That'll never happen. At best they'll just force EU gamers to play through a VPN.
>>737183574So doing the bidding of Israel is what americans call national pride?
>>737168569It's called "the Big Lie". Have enough shills say obvious bullshit confidently over and over again, and low-IQ normies will fall for it.
>>737183574>die for Israel goy
>>737183685It is for the moment, you are free to get elected and change that
>>737175884>they will never do it to a game I like!
>>737183954Correct.
>>737183954Correct.Because I don't play gacha.
>>737183402>cheat in peaceI've been playing multiplayer games since the 90s. We did not have cheating back in the day. Cheating started appearing when games got pushed hard into online. Back in the day with LAN and local private servers nobody was cheating.
>>737184305Yeah nobody would ever look at another player's monitor playing an RTS game at LAN.
>>737184398You obviously don't sit next to one another if you're playing versus.
>>737179625>2018 was 8 years ago
>>737178194If Bungie were to close, it would fall on Sony. If Sony wanted to pass the buck, they'd sell Bungie, or the Marathon IP to someone else, and they'd become responsible for it.
>>737165746>decide to recreate the bar's drinks and host it for your buddies>OY VEY GOY YOU CAN'T DO THAT
>>737175335Don't bother. Anyone who responds to SKG with "MORE games need killed!" is legitimately just a bone headed ape engaging in a totally different category of discussion with one superficial similarity to what they are talking about. You are talking to the same people that respond to statistical generalizations with anecdotal counter examples. No offense by the way I just can't help but think this.
>>737165319maybe try making a better game? modern games are flopping just because
>>737165053I want companies to make sure their game can still be played at the end of the dayThere are much cheaper viable alternatives than keeping servers up forever, but if that's what they want to do then by all means
>>737165053practically no, but it would be based if they made them do that yeah
>>737185120They do but its impossible to get the word about them out when people like you spam /v/ with threads about mentally ill ecelebs who want to play the crew for 40 years
>>737183485Gamers are rising up!
>>737162576holy warrior...
>>737167663How does this work with console games then?
>>737189275After the servers are disabled, make a final patch which allows single player, and multiplayer through LAN?
>>737189275Consoles are computers, they can host dedicated servers too. It can be done with many console games.
