>>737163602
oh no... think about the poor billionaire

LEAVE THE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ALONE

>vampire
>defending capitalism
Fitting

>>737163602
>NOOOOO ITS NOT YOURS IM JUST LEASING YOU ACCESS!!
>t- vampire

Sometimes i really wonder who these bloodsuckers are, Like i know that millionaires/billionaires browse internet content about their projects, maybe this is actually one of them. who else would get so emotionally committed to the idea that you dont own the game you buy?

LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING
>be babel media, a shill company
>post a comment on one social media platform with your shill account
>screencap it
>post that screencap on another social media platformm and pretend it's an organic comment

>>737163602
There are a whole bunch of people here who won't admit it but would feel exactly the same as this guy for any other topic besides gaming or something else that they're personally invested in. Plenty of the chuds here think that anything less than totally unregulated free market corporate ass rape is literally leftism which is literally socialism which is literally communism which is literally atheism/satanism. Not a strawman, there are people here who actually think that.

this is worse than the vampirecaust

>>737164003
Those people are retarded and I don't concern myself with the opinions of retards.

>>737163602
Just reply on youtube you faggot.

>>737163602
>The company that made the old model of car you have no longer manufactures replacement parts.
>Sadly you just bought temporary access to OEM parts and it's offensive to expect third party companies or individuals to produce off-brand replacements themselves.
>That's just theft
The concept that something you buy cannot be used because a supplementary feature, such as online servers or replacement parts, are no longer supported is retarded.

>>737163840
All serious replies to xitter/youtube/whatever are faggots that should kill themselves.

>>737163602
>publishers never sold games to customers
i have games on my shelf right now that i own

more likely to hurt the consumers as they will always find a loophole around it to fuck you as revenge
like when EU forced apple to sell a version of their product without a charger, so now zero apple products in EU come with a charger with an unchanged price

>>737163602
>literal vampire saying this
i can't believe the elites would label themselves like this

>>737164003
they are mostly right though, because copyright is a form of government regulation to begin with. the correct solution to the problem SKG is attacking is to eliminate regulation, i.e. copyright, not to add more regulation as a bandage to the problems created by existing regulation. similarly, in all other situations, the correct solution is generally to reduce regulation rather than increase it. increasing regulation only favors megacorporations that assrape you at the expense of smaller businesses that are more heavily affected by the cost of regulatory compliance, and that would have less incentive to assrape you because they have more competition.

>>737163602
The more I think it about it, the more I realize I just don't care because I don't play live service slop in the first place, and I really enjoy seeing people who do play that garbage piss and shit themselves when games are taken down. Is it kinda petty? Sure, but you're going to have a hard time making people like me care about your cause, especially when we feel like you faggots contribute to some of the worst aspects of gaming

>>737163602
lmao I thought these faggots were commies, why the fuck are they simping for corporations now?

>>737164376
anon, there is no commies only simps for corporations(left) and simps for corporations and Israel(right)

>>737163602
>Completely wrong analogy
Wow. It is like arguing with the shills on here.

The audience that wants game preservation is so weird to me.

Everyone that plays live service or multiplayer/pvp type games knows these experiences are inherently ephemeral and dependent on the 'live' component to be fun. Being able to boot up the servers and play with yourself is pointless.
Conversely, if you like offline single player stuff, it's not like there's any shortage of games like that you can play forever either.

So I have to imagine it's people in the latter group that accidentally got attached to a game like genshin and are now mad they can't enjoy them forever on the off chance they feel nostalgic for it 20 years from now . It just feels kinda juvenile, they fundamentally don't engage with these games in the same manner as people in the first group. The fuss being kicked up does not seem commensurate with the scale and severity of the issue.

>>737163602
>Comparing companies not being able to sell video games that they can then unplug at any moment with YOUR DYING MOTHER
lmao

>>737164326
forcing companies to add an offline feature is nice but the long term effect of discouraging the development of those types of games is even better.

>>737163602
If game companies had shown even the slightest inclination and given even the smallest precedent for self regulation, this wouldn’t be necessary.
Government intervention is quite literally the only reason the industry has ever given the consumer rights.
>j-just vote with your wallet!
I did. Then some retard voted a thousand times and overrode me.

>>737164168
Or like when they stopped companies from all making up their own charging ports and chargers and now unified them into one that is offered cheaper by third party suppliers.

Or like when they forced companies to supply spare parts to the market so you can repair your own car and chose a repair shop.

Or like when they made it mandatory to make cancelling a subscription easy and oje click so you're not like nigger amerimutt cattle hanging 2h in a telephone loop to cancel a gym subscription.

Or like when they made it so you're legally entitled to use your own router and modem so your isp can't jew you over them.

Or like when they made it so that contracts can't automatically renew for an entire year and instead can be canceled on a monthly basis afterwards.

Or when they made it so that you're legally entitled to a 2 year statutory warranty on goods you purchase.

>>737164704
>Everyone that plays live service or multiplayer/pvp type games knows these experiences are inherently ephemeral and dependent on the 'live' component to be fun
Ok. Now explain shit like Sim city, D3, and nu-Hitman that have always online components despite being fully functional without said components.

>>737163602
Typical commie faggot.

>>737163602
>publishers sold temporal access
I wonder who put that crap into mutt minds. Even the most authoritarian shithole would laugh at any company trying to pull this shit, yet mutts just lay down and even defend corpos for trampling on them.

>>737163783
It's just bootlickers. I saw this faggot absolutely SEETHING in the comments under a sky king video because people called him a hero. He was furiously trying to argue with people about the fact that skyking was a criminal because the shareholders who lost the value of the airplane and how actually he should be demonized and stop being inspired just stfu and get back to work. Bootlickers are a very common creature because it was probably evolutionarily selected for in the past. The serf who completely sucked up to his master was likely to survive more than the one who realized he was getting a raw deal and tried speaking out.

>>737164790
Oh so that's why. They don't actually care about game preservation in principle, they're live service haters and it's just a convenient trojan horse to indirectly get people to make more of the, i don't know, single player rpgs or walking sims they want or something instead. That explains why the whole movement always felt so disingenuous to me.

>>737163725
That faggot isn't defending capitalism. It's communism applied to corporations, in that the end user doesn't own anything, and that the corporation can withdraw access to the product at any time.
That's a fundamental part of how communism works.

>>737165005
????
Communism is about the workers owning the means of production, not that a customer shouldn't own the produced goods

>>737164704
I'm a Genshin player and I absolutely could see myself returning to play the game in 50 years out of nostalgia when I'm in the old folks home. It's not an MMO and if you're playing because you like the actual content rather than the community around it (aka the 'hype') then there's no need for it to be live service from the user's standpoint. It's just that way because it facilitates the developer funding development over a longer period and of an ultimately larger game.

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>>737164875
dangerously based

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>>737163602
>Sorry but the game will be support forever, you will be forced to keep those servers running for all eternity, until the heat death of the universe.
>Yes, you and all your children and childrens children will be bound by this pact.

BASED EU!! Dap on those lazy devs

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>>737163602
So you just screencapped your own comment?

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>>737164875
>consumer rights
REEEEEEEEEE! STOP IT STOP IT YOU HAVE TO JUST BEND OVER AND LET MEHACORPS RAPE YOU WTF ARE YOU DOING STOP IT ITS IMMORAL TO DEFEND YOURSELF FROM GETTING RAPED HOW DARE YOU!?!?!?! THE GOVERNMENT ISNT SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE POPULACE ITS ONLY SUPPOSED TO TAX YOU AND THEN USE THOSE TAXES TO FUND CORPORATIONS WHO SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ABUSE US AS MUCH AS THEY WANT REEEEEEEEEEE

>>737163602
>people
>one mentally ill bootlicker

>>737164704
Even if you don't understand it, there's no reason to take the companies side

>>737163602
>criminal woke shit
Do buzzwords have any meaning anymore

>people
>it's literally just three posts, two of which are from the same retard
cool

>>737164976
>they
just speaking for myself. reason #1 should be a given, reason #2 is a personal preference

>>737165148
If the people advocating for it are actually like >>737164790 then they're not my friends either. The best outcome is they waste each others time and accomplish nothing.

>>737163602
If the corporations refuse or are unable to give simple EOL options for their products then they just need to be made to amend the sales terms to make it readily apparent you are only renting from them and they can pull the pin any time. And/or they can only sell with a minimum fixed term of up time that they are beholden to issue refunds if not met. Basically if they won't make the games playable in a reasonable manner then they shouldn't be allowed to continue abusing vague sales terms that make it look like you are actually buying and owning a product. I would image they would change their tune pretty quickly if they were no longer able to trick people into purchasing in the manner they do now.

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>>737165054
>Communism is about the workers owning the means of production
>being this naïve

there are some niche games i still wish i could play with my friends. dread hunger, for example. a kino party game with friends that's gone forever because it never reached a mainstream audience

>>737163602
If paying for a game does not equal ownership then pirating it is not stealing.

>>737164157
You own disc's, not games.

>>737163602
based

>>737165267
>t. have not read anything by Engels or Marx
I know that communism in practice just leads to horrible dictatorships. But how is that applicable to corporations here

It's not natural to keep clinging to the past like this. Books, films, music, all these things come and go. Nobody reads old books, nobody watches old movies, nobody listens to old music. Why should video games be any different?

>>737165349
>real communism has never been tried! if you just read the holy texts...
No.

>>737165420
I feel like you can judge an anon's intellect by how they reply to this post

>>737164704
Imagine typing out that the idea of preservation is weird, I'm pretty sure only Doom cults who want the end of the world are against preservation.

>>737165456
>communism in practice
How is that not it bring tried? Holy retardation

>>737165420
Its not natural for corporations to be in charge of deciding which piece of media should be killed and deny future generation partake in it, get fucked in the ass by a retarded horse you faggoty shill.

>>737163602
This is why the internet is almost pointless nowadays, 90% are shills, bots, bot-shills and retards.

I can't imagine shilling for corporations who do everything in their power to make your life worse just so they can squeeze .0000001% of profit

>>737165618
Not sure if bait

>>737164326
>The more I think it about it, the more I realize I just don't care because I don't play live service slop in the first place
Same, except that I do care enough to be in support of any move that makes that business model less sustainable. These kinds of games have no right to exist.

There hasn't been a more useless cause than "Stop Killing Games", especially during a time when the death of gaming is mandatory for it to get better.

>>737163602
He should go suck start a shotgun

>>737163602
So Socialism is actually based?

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Before
>HAHAHA SKG IS SO EMBARASSING YOU THINK ANYBODY WILL CARE?! YOUR STUPID CHILDISH INITIATIVE WILL FAIL INSTANTLY AND GET LAUGHED OUT OF THE ROOM AND YOU WILL FAAAAAAAIIIILLLLL
Now
>SKG survived for all this time, got tons of support from gamers and elsewhere, politicians widely agree with the initiative and even boomers who don't play videogames think that the fact their kids could lose access to a game they legally bought and played for hours is complete horseshit
>SKG haters react with panic and start screaming "COMMIES!!!" with even more rage while furiously shitting our fear-mongering bullshit and repeating the same bullshit claims about SKG that already got deboonked hundreds of times
Oh, I'm noticing.

>>737163602
lmao what the actual fuck
i share the same planet with these cattles??

>>737164326
I don't play live service slop. But I hate the idea that a product people legally paid for can be made completely unplayable. We went through it several times already, we had plenty of evidence of what happens when you demand constant server connection but the game shuts down or something fucks up. Le voting with your wallet clearly doesn't work and never did, so time to get more serious.
>>737164704
Normalfag retard.
>>737164976
Yeah I hate live service bullshit and think that all paid online products should have a offline mode if they plan to shut down. Problem?

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>>737164875

shut the FUCK UP

>>737164003
People with the brains of children have no influence on the world at large and that's a good thing.

>>737163602
>what you are asking for is criminal woke shit
You can tell it's a paid actor because it immediately jumps to buzzwords commonly used in certain circles, then launches into a several paragraph long rant about why it would be justified to hold their perspective if you belonged to those circles.

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>>737164875
Based. How will amerimutts and corpo bootlickers recover from this TRVTHNVKE?

>>737163665
Without billionaires gaming would cease. There is a great irony in so many trans and hipster developers acting like gaming is this "cultural" thing, when the thing that propped up the industry enough to reach the point they jumped on to (because games looked exciting and not just pong) were paved entirely by salesmen pushing the industry forward, and an interest in turning Moore's Law into raw consumerism, to keep it from doubling.

If the game industry was led by people like you we would've never transitioned from Text Adventure games to any 3D "artistic masterpiece" anything. And gaming culture would've been left at just a niche and not a lot of nobodies thinking they have a claim to it.

>>737165971
>Oh, I'm noticing.
Anyone who is against SKG is a jew or a jewish golem. We own what we paid for

>>737166286
>Without billionaires gaming would cease.
Without customers, gaming would cease.

>>737166245
Case and point: >>737166286

>>737164704
You're a fucking retard
Gayshit Impact is 99% single player game with online server connection tacked on with meaningless social features and retention mechanics like daily logins. It could 100% be made into single player game, that's why private servers exist. Same goes for every gachashit game. The only reasons they don't release it is because retarded chinks keep giving them billions. The day it goes EOS I will download private server and play without padding grinding and spending money.

>>737164003
That's not a thing outside of the US,the chuds of my European country would be considered leftist economically over there.
I

>>737163602
>SKG doing so great that I only know what they’re doing because of SKG activists badgering /v/ again.
You cultists really like the attention. Thor won.

>>737165476
Preservation isn't unilaterally good. It's like those people with their phones out trying to record a concert instead of actually experiencing the concert. I'm sure most people consider behavior like that cringe and naive.

>>737164875
EU sounds Turbo based. No wonder the tech oligarchs want to destroy it.
I'm starting to notice.

>>737163602
>People
>One fag

>>737163602
Jesus Christ.
This just goes to show how brainless zoomers are. They heard the word "licence" and just started thinking that it was temporary out of fucking nowhere even though you own that licence permanently and a licence only means that you own the game and not the property.

>>737166365
Customers can still buy products at 70 dollars. It's just morons developed the mindset that you have to buy every new release that marketing is pushing. Normal gamers bought 1 game they wanna play, and then play that as their only game. Back in the day my PS1 friends had 1 game and that was all we ever played. Crash Bandicoot 3 on PS1. Halo Reach on Xbox 360. Mario Party on N64. The other games mattered less.

>>737163602
amerigoys are NOT people

>>737166387
kek, trannies are paranoid in 2026.
How does it feel to not be carried by politicians anymore?

>>737166365
If only the fucking SKG cunts could stop buying games for five fucking minutes to realise that.

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>>737165132

>people
>just 1 guy samefagging
lmao

>>737163602
I doubt it. It's like the repetition movement. All it's going to do is make someone very rich.


They did reparations in some state in the usa. All it did was give some jewish owned companies money. Saw this report on it. Trillions were give out but all to some operations and groups. The money was then used to fund social programs in jewish areas and other business intrest. All black people got was this one basketball court made in some rich white area.

>>737166627
One of those people will be me. Older online games I never got to mess with are just interesting.

>>737166627
>pic related
they ain't wrong lole. I can't name a single game i care about that's more than a couple of years old. Funnily enough the oldest game i currently play is ff14 thats only been around for so long because it's live service.

>>737163602
I assume anyone who writes more than 3 sentences on the internet has autism and is therefore unworthy of consideration.

>>737166662
This world belongs to G-d's Chosen People, goy. It's time for you to accept that.

>>737166662
Okay but
1. This isn't about giving money to anyone, this is about changing the law to prevent companies from engaging in predatory practices
2. This is being done in the EU, not the USA

>>737163602
that laughing vampire cunt should get sued for copyright infringement

>>737164003
That would be me although I don't identify as "chud" and I am atheist. Regulation is evil.

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>>737166421
The Amerimutt mind can't comprehend that their eternally raped "free market" is literally just the globohomo agenda. By the Epstein class, for the Epstein class.

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>>737163602
Why is there no movement against things like micro transactions or unfair dlc live games early access (early cess isnt that bad or the worst of it) or secs releasing games bit by bit. Like civ games you pay full price for it like 49.99 the game isnt even complete and you have to pay little bit until it get released completly. Civ games cost 100s. This is a travesty and these greedy companies need to be stopped. Never forget Jeffery epstine was behind it all, and look how bad games are these days studios are dying and being bought up by the elities


I am noticing how games companies are being squeezed out. Its exactly like how early zionists use to work. You need to pay them or they call you an anti semite and destroy your company. Same shit is happening. A game gets made. If you dont hire these woke companies like sweet baby inc they get deatroyed.


I think this needs to be looked at

it stands to reason that the cost of actually implementing this will just be passed onto you when you buy games in the future.

>>737165005
Rent-seeking is the easiest (and most degenerate) way for capitalists to make money. Renting out products is the free market in action, and renting out capital is capitalist by definition. You are really stupid.

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>>737166627
>Pic related
Yes. Now eat shit and die lol.

>>737166943
>cost
What cost?

>>737166759
Sorry man I didnt know what's the movement about? How can i help?


Since the whole blm and act blue I dont trust anyone anymore?


What's there and game who is in charge? I a against degitalisations. What happens if the servers get destroyed or if things get changed in video games? This shouldn't be happening

>>737163602
>NEETs, anime troons, pol chuds are the biggest boot lickers
very funny ngl

>>737166965
How about you filthy goyim just give us back all of our money and we give you nothing in return? All money in the universe belongs to G-d's Chosen People, so refusing to give us money is literal theft. All goyim who refuse to surrender their money at the nearest synagogue should be publicly tortured to death. We need to start making examples of what happens when you goyim defy the Chosen.

>>737166972
the cost of never shutting down or removing the ability to play a game.

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>>737164704
Depends on the game. I've spent plenty of time playing WoW solo on a local server back in the day, just doing quests and fucking around. Something like a moba or a team shooter may not be as good solo but someone might want to just do some runs with bots and whatnot, for each their own.
And if people want to host their own servers to play with friends, why the fuck not? Just band together to play some dumb forgotten game for shits and giggles. There's really no reason to go against it.

>>737163725
oh boy yet another thread of retards attributing jewish behavior to capitalism, an ideology that merely defends you should be entitled to the fruits of your labor and use them as you see fit

>>737164875
Shut up commie
People like you want to tax beef. No more hamburgers. Then they tax large sodas. They've already got super sizing banned, why not huh commie? Does that sound like freedom to you? It's a slippery slope that ends with millions dead.

>>737167089
You mean the cost of letting people play offline or use player-hosted servers...? Something that would be cheaper in the long run than keeping servers running...?

>>737167163
I dont want to tax beef, I just dont want to pay for your beef. if beef is so essential, then you can pay what it costs yourself. you have the freedom to do that.

>>737163602
oh look, another ignorant retard that doesnt understand what its even asking companies to do.

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>>737167163
One slippery slope leads to millions (but not me) dead because companies can't steal from consumers.
The other slippery slope leads to millions (including me) getting stolen from because you just had to lick that boot a little too hard.

Sorry, but if millions have to die in order for me to own everything and be happy, I'll just ask for a shovel and do my part digging the mass graves.

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>>737167162
>you should be entitled to the fruits of your labor
Anon, capitalism is about your boss being entitled to the fruits of your labor.

>>737167260
yes, I imagine that creating the ability for a modern 100Gb game to played with all its functions forever in an offline environment is gonna cost something to create.

>>737166738
You should grow some taste then or should have been born 10 years earlier

>>737167301
I didnt know you were responsible for paying all the salries of employees, equipment, rent, utilities, and have financial obligation to recoup losses if the business goes under.

>>737167457
>have financial obligation to recoup losses if the business goes under
LOL???

>>737164875
Wtf I love EU now???

>>737167301
see, you don’t know what capitalism is
you added a bunch of jewish bullshit to redefine it and now make the claim that capitalism is like that
the essence of capitalism is private property

Someone think of the poor publishers

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>>737163602
Why is everything that an American doesn't like or can't understand always called communism or socialism?

don't care about yuros asking to be babysat by the govt

>>737166738
You should grow a tree and tie a noose to and hang yourself on it, alternatively not have been born ever

>>737164790
forcing companies to add an offline feature
That's not what's being asked at all

>>737167797
Completely mindraped by cold war propaganda.

>>737165301
>uhh akshually
suck my fucking dick corponigger

>>737164259
Copyright is a multinational problem with countless companies, lobbies and interest groups campaigning in favor.
Adding a "bandage" is the only feasible option.
They outright tried scaling copyright back in the US back in 2003 (Eldred v. Ashcroft) and it did not work because the Supreme Court said no because they allegedly "wanted to keep up EU parity, keep in line with prior precedent used to shut down discussion of Nixon's presidential pardon, didn't really consider the implications and lol tl;dr;".
As it stands the corrupt state of copyright does not have corresponding obligations to match the privileges that have been made available over time.

>>737167863
It’s just the Burger mind-prison at work. We’ve been conditioned since the 50s to think that anything slightly inconvenient or community based is a slippery slope to the gulags. You want a train system that actually works? That's literal Bolshevism. You think maybe people shouldn't go bankrupt over a broken leg? You're basically Mao.
The average midwit here can’t distinguish between a Nordic social safety net and a Stalinist purge because the TV has been screaming "Red Menace" for seventy years. It’s the ultimate NPC dialogue tree: if I don't like it, it's communism. If it requires me to care about my neighbor, it's socialism. It's a low effort way to defend the status quo while pretending you're a freedom fighter. Truly a peak clown world phenomenon.

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>>737164875
damn it's great to be a white european

It's always super obvious when leftists try to call things woke so people will do what they want. They genuinely don't notice how transparent it is.

>>737167987
this will never not be funny to me as a former commie country slav. americans are a truly mindbroken country, it's mindblowing.

>>737164875
Shut the fuck up, socialist pig!!!!

>>737163602
Libertarians are a retarded loud minority, no normal person takes them seriously.

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>"Making [an offline version] technically work and making it an enjoyable product are two different things," Itchie says. "There is a strong risk that the game will end up playable but not entertaining, or that it will simply fall apart as a game."

Jap golem outright admitting that gacha games are garbage shit just designed for you to click on payment buttons and nobody actually likes playing them lmao. I hope this shit does nuke all live service and gacha games.

>>737168116
Ironically calling every moderately social policy communism has made a bunch of young liberal people think they support communism

>>737168225
>abloo abloo it's hard
>also i'm gonna misrepresent the whole movement :)
long nosed article

>>737163602
I mean what am I even supposed to reply to this? That guy is sick in the head and nothing anyone is going to say will change it.

>>737168308
>That guy is sick in the head
that's a shill, there's nothing organic about that post

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>ok well look into this initiative
>wait so why are you calling games ''services'' while selling them as goods?
>why do you ask for a initial 80$ price for a ''service''
>why does this service come on a disk or require a download
>why isnt your service working properly when you offer it? why does it need tons of fixes on release
>why dont you offer proper customer support and refunds on your service?
>speaking of services, the way this service looks looks a awful lot like gambling
>why arnt you following gambling laws?
and so on and so on
Ubisoft (and every other publisher) have been riding a very thin line in selling videogames as goods but reaping all the benefits of providing a service, SKG is going to force them to define what the product is and what standards its supposed to uphold
they are deadly afraid and will try and do anything to discredit the movement, dont be surprised if the articles about trannies recieving death threats from SKG start appearing

>>737163602
You skg people are such a manchild

>an entire thread based on a youtube comment from a schizo(probably even OP) with zero likes

>>737168341
>they are deadly afraid and will try and do anything to discredit the movement, dont be surprised if the articles about trannies recieving death threats from SKG start appearing
anon, anti-skg shills have posted LITERAL CHILD PORNOGRAPHY in these threads. there's absolutely nothing that would surprise me anymore, they will use any tactic they can use. that's why we have to push back every time.

So going off this logic I should never play any retro games ever again.

>>737168335
>Using meme words like shill and organic posts
You have brainrot anon

>>737163602
It's good to know I only have temporal access to all my shit. I sure hope IKEA never terminate my desk service.

>>737168531
But that person is an actual, literal shill. As in, someone who actually gets paid to post these things.

>>737167089
>the cost of never shutting down
Are you retarded? Have you even read what SKG entails?

>>737168585
Yes. Maintaining all games fully playable with full technical support at all times forever, regardless of cost to the developer.

>>737164875
Aieeeeeee shut the fuck up eurocommie aaaaarghhh

>>737168603
>Yes. Maintaining all games fully playable with full technical support at all times forever, regardless of cost to the developer.
That would be a resolute "No" then.

>>737168603
If you didn't even bother watching the EU hearing, why are you here?

>>737168603
based retardo

>>737163602
>people
>literally one guy
kys tranny

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>>737168518
yes you shouldn't you are stealing the bread of honest shareholders holding their assets like a mother holding their frozen abortion so lovingly and tenderly
but i boughted it! <---- you are here
no you don't you have a license and the loicense is now expired pay up piggy pay up pay up it's time to buy another skyrim ultra turbo special dragonborn edition do it now put in your card info now
HERE YOU ARE ----> what?
accept the future or be left in the past like the past never happened and you are not real
how disgusting you are so entitled for a freebie you just want more attention don't you i bet you never even bought our game
delete this

>>737163602
>their property
>I bought it
If it's actually a rental agreement then the law clearly says I need my full deposit back when it ends.

guess it's that easy getting (you)s

>>737163602
> buy food from grocery store
> eat food
> grocery store owner comes to your house
> steals poop

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>>737163602
Reminder there are people who unironically think this or are actually so stupid they cannot comprehend the subject at all.

>>737168826
We don't need a reminder, they come here every day trying to shill SKG because they think every digital purchase is a fucking rental.

>>737168603
another corponigger :)

>>737168818
More like
>buy food
>food expires
>can still eat it even if it's not as good
>grocery store owner steals it back anyway

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>>737164875
S-SHUT UP

>>737164003
Free market in housing
>The house has this price
Free market in videogames
>I am taking away the game you paid for because it costs me 100$ monthly to maintain the servers
Doesn't seem comparable

>>737168879
so if i play a video game the owner can't have it back?

>>737167163
>Murcan can't think of anything but food
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>737164875
I think the lootboxes regulation will be the first real challenge. So far the EU's only answer has been "we'll rate games with gambling lootboxes PEGI 16 by default" which means precisely nothing.

>>737168826
>>737168874
a lot of it is just contrarianism at this point to simply get a rise out of people

>>737168927
>"we'll rate games with gambling lootboxes PEGI 16 by default" which means precisely nothing.
Transactional age ratings work better because the bank and credit card acts as the middleman. Unless the kid is using his parents cards without permission he can't really cheat the system.

Same way how kids can easily cheat a tobacco vending machine but no amount of makeup or fake moustaches will fool a grocery store cashier. They need conspiring adults to gain access.

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>>737163602
Oh shit I didn't realize I cancel my signature stop stop killing games. Kill foids in games instead!

>>737168518
You also should destroy your old games when companies release a cheap remaster.
That's the american spirit

>>737167324
>yes, I imagine that creating the ability for a modern 100Gb game to played with all its functions forever in an offline environment is gonna cost something to create.
Then you clearly don't know much about software development considering that this is basically required as part of development testing. And would be a minor manner of compiling and distributing the server pack or even just relevant APIs. This is also assuming that the server side of things isn't just a simple obfuscation of variables which a lot of time it is, so that can just be rolled into a final patch for the game to remove the need for the server checks at all. Funnily enough if anything the biggest potential amount of work would be fixing up the final UI to account for needing to have a lot of content present since they are generally made to only show X amount at any given time. However even then that isn't really a huge amount of work by comparison. There is literally nothing stopping them from doing these things.

>>737164168
>>737164875
You didn't have to destroy him like that man

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>>737166472
Lol

>>737166316
>Anyone who is against SKG is a jew or a jewish golem. We own what we paid for
baka my head the mentality that ruined dating culture for everyone
stop this madness before you ruin gaming for everyone

>>737168341
This. They know for a fact that if they were forced to sell this stuff as an actual service which necessitates a fixed period of access or as a recurring charge for a certain period it is going to deter people from buying in. Pretty that even microtransactions would be beholden to some sort of fixed return period so they can just take your money for them in a F2P game and shut down a month later.

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>>737166562
Sadly no

>>737166472
is this what shills have to resort to? these retarded, utterly idiotic arguments? fucking lmao you love to see it.

>>737165054
Are you fucking retarded or something?

>>737163602
Woke is when you don't support giving 10 billion dollars to Israel -laughingvampire7555

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>>737164113
Correct, as pic related proved. A modder decoupled Sim City's online functionality after EA claimed it was impossible because it was so "integral to how the game was designed". Then they removed it after the fact.

>>737169246
>nooo it's impossible to do it!
>one person does it in his free time
is there ANY reason to listen to corporate excuses? name ANY ONE reason. any reason will do, any at all.

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>>737163602
There will always be ignorant retards. but does it surprise anyone that industry opposes this? Of course they would because it's a net negative for them. Only actually decent teams offer some kind of post-shutdown way to play the game. I was surprised to discover Let It Die will do exactly that when the game shuts down later in the year even though a semi-sequel is already out.

>>737168603
>posted it again award
Job well done, Ranjesh.

>>737163602
Who'd have thought asking to still be able to play a fucking game I paid £70 for in ten years would be such a contentious issue.
Years ago they just made them like that.

>>737164875
Imagine if the EU just stayed as a economic associations, what it should be, instead of turbogayniggercommunism
The consumer and economic side is great, the social side is just assraping

>>737163602
This analogy is the stupidest thing I've read in a good while. I think even PirateSoftware would laugh at this nonsense.
You buy a game for 60 dollarydoos, the game should at least work at the capacity that you can play it offline.
A lot of people are ok with not having access to official servers or direct support. All they're asking is that if the game is supposed to have online elements, they're either turned into an offline mode of sorts, or tools are provided to host private servers so that at least it does not go to waste.
I don't think this is in any way unreasonable because 20 years ago that was fairly standard and you only had some MMOs really go after "pirate servers". If my friend wanted to host a private server and have 5 of us playing together he could. There's plenty of old ass games that can still be played today online just by having the right tools to host a server. So fucking do that.

>>737168225
I know Japs are even worse corpo slaves than mutts but I find the line; "It would be playable but not entertaining so whats the point" to be hilariously ironic.
If they are shutting the fucking game down what does it matter if it is not entertaining? The game being playable is still more entertaining than the game not working at all.

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Just a reminder how this started and Unlimited now exists for The Crew.

>>737169220
Ahhh the ol' "your followers" well poisoning tactic.

>>737164928
>They sould temporal access
>Why?
>Because uh... because uh... because uh...
>Why do you believe this is true?
>Because uh... because uh... because they say so!

>>737165349
>Citing Engels and the retarded hobo in the year of our Lord two thousand and twenty six
You should kill yourself

>>737169367
MMOs are sadly the easiest scapegoat for people to use in case of SKG because it's the most complex example. Initiative, as it is, does not protect private servers of still existing games.

>>737168880
>Forces Apple to use USB-C
>Alright then we'll cuck the USB-C to death
>Now people have slow charging and data transfer through it because it turns out, there's no standard to USB-C and 20 different cables have 20 different properties despite using the same port
Also I love seeing cookie popups fucking everywhere because the EU is so concerned. You know what I love too? How thanks to the EU, some companies started selling devices without a charger and you had to buy that shit separately.

>>737164976
>"i'm very petty and just to laugh at you guys when your game gets taken down"
>"B-but uhm, I don't want these games to stop being produced or for companies to feel bad about it, it's so disingenuous"
hmm

>>737169494
Not all EU decisions are wins, but I think I have enough chargers 5+ phones in.

>>737166965
No, renting something out is a perfectly natural thing in any society, if you can't afford to buy it, or if you only need something for a short amount of time. Without it, millions upon millions of people would have no place to live, or they'd be stuffed into generational homes.
The problem here is that it shouldn't apply to something you've already bought, like a game. Renting itself isn't the problem, but either not being given the option to buy it, or having your purchase turned into a loosely defined license is, and this has nothing to do with capitalism.
If anything, shitholes like China have some of the worst practices when it comes to those types of games, which are cynically made to extract money from extreme losers, horny retards and gambling addicts.

>>737167301
So why aren't you the boss?

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>buy Shadowrun Boston Chronicles
>it's singleplayer but has tacked on always-online co-op
>dev shuts down the servers
>Can't play the singleplayer any more
>game is completely bricked now
>no refund possibility

>>737169246
It was even funnier than that given that they claims the online part was doing all sorts of simulations based on other players cities and stuff, but in the end it was found that it was basically just a server side random number generator that didn't factor anything in and had entirely no need to be an online requirement at all.

>>737163602
The only thing more retarded than writing youtube comments is reading youtube comments.

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>>737169612
goddammit that reminds me. fucking chrome hounds.

stop giving government more power. you hold power by not buying their product.

>>737169667
>doesn't buy their shitty product
>niggercattle does
>you lose
>repeat forever

>>737163602
>People

>>737169667
>s-stop holding us accountable, stupid!
No, I WILL hold you accountable. You sold me a product, and I will own it in perpetuity.

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companies just going to make user agreement where you allow companies not to make offline version of their games

>>737169753
can't do that. eula is already non-binding in eu.

>>737169667
This isn't giving the government power though, it is getting the government to exercise its existing power to require corporations to follow a rule of law in regards to consumer protections. Either they start delivering on what is being sold as a product or they must start selling as a service all that entails. No more coasting on vague terminology, ignorance, and apathy of the consumer to hold these companies to task.

>>737169753
EULAs are trumped by consumer protection laws and laws in general for countries that aren't shitholes. Companies can put whatever they want in T&Cs but that doesn't mean it will hold up in court if challenged.

>>737169427
>the crew
not the instigator I would've ever picked to start skg, but I'll take it

>>737169667
>corpos stealing products they sell to customers will stop if you just don't buy their products
retard

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>>737166286
Yummy nummy pasta

>>737164976
>gets one random reply
>they they they
fucking kill yourself already, you are a waste of space

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>>737163602
>temporal access

>>737163602
Let me put it out for you in a way you should understand
Should you be able to own the things you buy?
Or should you let a big organisation tell you what and how you can enjoy things by their word

Only billionaires should be able to influence the government.
They have the most stake in decision making, thus it makes sense that they should have a say.

>>737169753
You can't sign away your rights outside very specific circumstances.
If you sign a contract and said contract has a clause like
>I get the right to rape your children
hidden halway through, they'll still go to jail for a stairwell nonce bashing if they do it.

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>>737164875
Amerisharts will NEVER refute this

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>>737166286
>Without billionaires funding more live service slop gaming would return to 5 white guys in the garage making games
This sounds like a positive thing desu

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>>737163783
Bro, seriously, there's a reason why the elite view the common man as cattle.
Motherfuckers really are just THAT fucking retarded and subservient. There's a reason why the term "consoomer" exists, and that "LEAVE THE MULTIBILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ALONE" memes, too. These faggots are desperate to defend any perceived slight against their status quo of quick, meaningless dopamine hits being threatened, no matter how faggy and pozzed their pastimes become from DEI and other nonsense.
Honestly, Japs are probably some of the worst, too. They all dogpile anyone doin' a heckin' piracy over there and try to ruin their lives. It's fucking insane the longs the common man will go to in enacting the will of their corporate masters.

Holy shit you fags are still going
JUST
REPLY
ON
YOUTUBE
You are literally arguing over what a fucking random retard on youtube said? In your spare time? Just end it now Kill yourselves.

>>737170169
>the longs
The lengths*
Damn, I'm even becoming ESL now.

>>737164875
Sounds very dangerous. There are really bad people walking on this planet. Christ is king! And some european pagan wont break me!

>>737163783
It's people who want to be the middlemen between the elites and the cattle, so they'll bootlick in the hopes of reaching that end. It's exactly what the media do.

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>>737163783
>Sometimes i really wonder who these bloodsuckers are

Americans and Indians have one trait in common - they will defend corporations and other soulless entities to their last breath, for some enigmatic reason.

There isn't a corporate penis they aren't willing to suckle on.

The notion that a government is there to govern and regulate is appalling to them.

>>737169574
And I have a collection of them alongside cables I have to carefully select. I have 3 USB-C to USB-C cables of which only one is able to transfer data properly. I've tested a bunch of chargers and they all, without failure, provide different results as "fast chargers". Chinks release handhelds that actually brick themselves if you connect a Samsung fast USB-C charger. The dualsense can actually get fucked as well if you're not careful there. I bought this anker charger with 3 ports, it listed so many different fucking USB-C specs due to all the different voltages used I think the nomenclature for these should just change. Actually I think Samsung should be fucked in the ass by the EU no less than Apple.

EU has done good, mostly in terms of trying to eliminate cancer chemicals, artificial food dyes and just shit food in general.

>>737164875
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>737163602
not owning your games is communism. leftists don't want you to own private property, only worship niggers and trannies tho

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>>737164875
You forgot the actually most important part - they they don't allow the food sold to us to be a chemical plant dumping ground.

>>737163602
these retards get to vote and have opinions just like thinking humans do!

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In the EU, I buy Italian lemonade with 16% orange juice and laugh at Americans drinking lemonade without any actual juice or fruit content.

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>>737170395
Here's my personal favourite.

>>737164259
In this case the regulation actually affects only the bigger corporations because they are the ones engaging planned obsolesce

>>737170424
lemonade with orange juice? wtf
where is the lemon

>>737170395
This is not own you think it is
The American FDA requires them to list everything exactly within the product
The UK does not

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>>737170434
>>737170476
And the true crème de la crème for retards like this one.

>>737164704
>Everyone that plays live service or multiplayer/pvp type games knows these experiences are inherently ephemeral and dependent on the 'live' component to be fun.
Back in my day, we could get together. Connect our computers through this ancient technology called LAN. And we could play these games forever. And it wasn't ephemeral at all.

>>737170457
citrus fruits

>>737164875
The thread has been annihilated and the subhuman cattle who fails too understand the real world destroyed. Sorry libertarians, you believe in fantasy lala land reality. This here is the truth. Capitalism and socialism are not good and evil, they're extremes to a sensible mixed system of free markets and societally driven fair regulation.

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>>737163602
There's too much astroturfing around SKG for it to be a grass root(read: for the plebs) movement. If politicians smile at the man playing with digital toys, there's some fuckery afoot and when government is involved, it's always about more control.
>muh rights come from nanny government
You tards don't even have the larping skills christgolems have, pretending their "rights" come from "god".

>>737169805
It invites government into regulating another sphere of entertainment, which will lead to government digging more and more into it with time. It is not question of if, it is a question of when.

>>737170497
I’m not even American
I’m just telling you that euros are being smarmy and arrogant without even knowing what you’re actually eating

>>737164972
Solid point!

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>>737163602
>the government getting involved will turn it all to shit
>ignore that the governement NOT being involved has already turned it all to shit
if it's gonna be shit all the way down I want the corpos to get fucked just like they're fuckin me

>>737166804
Copyright is regulation. What now?

>>737164972
Skyking is literally a criminal though, and things could have gone a lot worse. That doesn't make him any less of a champion though, nor reduce my love for him.

>>737170554
Did you even take a second to actually read the ingredients?

>Tomato concentrate vs. tomatoes
>distilled vinegar vs. spirit vinegar
>high fructose syrup vs. NONE
>corn syrup vs. NONE
>onion powder vs. NONE

Last time I'm spoon-feeding you, mutt.

>>737170547
Rights come from people with power that grant it
Fighting for ownership rights is the one based thing that the EU does

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>>737170554
The absolute state of the American "grocery store". you walk into a Walmart and buy eggs that were laid by a stressed-out bird in a factory 2,000 miles away, washed in chlorine, and sat on a truck for three weeks. Meanwhile, the Euro-chad walks into a REWE and scans a QR code that gives him the exact GPS coordinates of the chicken coop.
It’s the ultimate "comfy" life. My eggs come from a guy down the road, and the supply chain is shorter than a wagies attention span. Americans literally cannot comprehend knowing where their food comes from. they just consume the unidentifiable grey paste. They think "local" means the McDonald's in the next town over. Being able to see the face of the man who produced your food is the ultimate middle finger to the globalist logistics machine. Total transparency vs. the mystery goyslop. It's over for the american supermarket-slop-pillers.

>>737170589
government has already got involved, because you can't make your own private server legally due to "IP law" and "copyright"

>>737170617
And I’m telling you they don’t have to list exactly what they use like America does
They can be as vague as they want within reason

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>>737170434
>E339
>E341
Cancerogenic. The amerikek version has some shit in it that destroys your health so you end up a permanent client of the medical industrial complex but it keeps you alive to get fully milked of financial value until the day you die, but the european one just gives you cancers to get rid of you for population replacement.

>>737169494
>just let corporations shove cocks down your throat
no:)

>>737164875
>Or when they made it so that you're legally entitled to a 2 year statutory warranty on goods you purchase.
A minimum of 2 years actually. In e.g. the Netherlands you have indefinite warranty. The Dutch believe traders should take responsibility for the quality of the goods they sell and shouldn't foist crap on consumers, so their warranty - actually liability of the trader for defects does not feature a limitation period at all. You sell it; you're responsible for it. PERIOD.

>>737170649
>Rights come from people with power
The EU is ruled by unelected bureaucrats, a front for whatever banker dynasties own every euroslave. It's not any different in the USA, but the US golems know it, you seem to think your friendly neighborhood spider bruxelles likes you wewy mush.

>>737163602
>one clown
>youtube commenter
>people
lol
lmao

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>>737170434
>>737170497
>>737170395
ey can i play this game too?

>>737170617
>>737170660
This is what anti-intellectual looks like
Confidently wrong while spreading little lies to make them feel superior
I wish only for you morons to piece the veil and understand that the lies you are fed is to keep you thinking that way
In reality, you are exactly the same as the Americans you think you hate

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>>737170660
Most americans know exactly where their food comes from. We've been beaten over the head with it for decades while saving your asses from numerous crises', military and economical.
We just don't give a fuck, is what grinds your britches super tight. It's unfortunate that only applies to food source rather than eurococks.

>>737163602
How hard can it be to just make an offline patch? These fucks are acting like the world is about to end.. also, fuck that license crap. It's MY game, i bought it and it's fucking mine to do with as i please, don't fucking dare act like i just bought a temporary license, or something.

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>>737170817
One clown is enough to kill a world power.

>>737170775
I don’t know what you’re projecting onto me but I’m not Euro

>>737165420
The fact that bait like this will get fish nowadays...

>>737168927
The EU Commission has already stealthily made strong age verification as 18+ a requirement for lootboxes, putting it at a similar level as actual gambling.
They did this by classifying gambling-adjacent game mechanics such as lootboxes as harmful to minors, which means that under the Digital Services Act, online platforms - which includes online connected games - are retroactively no longer allowed to expose them to minors.
Any game which is still doing so is breaking the law and violations of the DSA are fined to a similar degree as the GDPR: up to a ceiling of 2 million EUR, or 4% worldwide annual turnover; whichever of the two is greater.

>>737170840
>Most americans know
hahahahaahhahaahahaha

>>737164003
What do you mean? It would suck major ass if my car or fridge can be cur off at any time by the seller because it can't connect to their servers.

>>737170847
Also, gayben had to be forced to offer refunds to gamers in steam by the eu. That was not a right the gamers had, initially.

>>737170476
>The UK does not
They do, they just aren't allowed to put the extra chemicals in.

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>>737170827
The absolute state of American cope. "You're exactly the same as us," he screams into the void, while clutching some chemical slop into his mouth. It’s the ultimate Stockholm Syndrome. He’s been so thoroughly broken by corporate interests that he thinks having rights is a 'lie' fed to us by the system.
Sorry, anon, but "muh both sides" doesn't work when I can literally taste the difference in the food and see the difference in my consumer rights. You call it anti-intellectualism; I call it not being a corporate paypig. You’ve been conditioned to think that getting scammed is 'freedom' and that demanding quality is 'superiority complex.' It’s not that I hate you... I just pity that you’ve been convinced that living in a digital and nutritional wasteland is the global norm. Drink your corn syrup and be happy, wagie.

>>737170696
No, you retard, they can't. Not only do they have to have a precise list of ingredients, they also have to be listed in the order of most present to least present.

>>737170827
Another dumb mutt joined the call.

>>737170476
then why does it look so different if it's the exact same?

>>737164790
>the long term effect of discouraging the development of those types of games
They're too profitable.
My money is betting that companies just make a big deal out of their EoL plans, turning the fact that players won't have to worry about all the time they put into a game getting deleted into a feature.

>>737170939
there are physical devices that exist RIGHT NOW, that need internet connectivity for certain features.
i was buying a fridge for my inlaw and every fucking samsung fridge i passed had a sticker with some awesome new feature(for what? it's a fucking fridge), and small print below it that said "internet connectivity and an account required".

>>737168373
ESL

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>>737163602
I don't care. Stop killing games. It's that easy!

>>737170827
You are a disgrace to my nation shut the fuck up, retard. Vermin like you are why American children die of cancer DAILY

FUCK YOU TO DEATH YOU ABSOLUTELY ROTTEN SOULLESS PIECE OF SHIT FROM HELL

>>737170664
>due to "IP law" and "copyright"
Which aren't government enforced. You have to defend them yourself.

>>737163602
everything fucking over corpos is a net positive to society

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>>737163602
>game is nearing end of service
>make an offline version
>if it's a gacha, just introduce levels to grind for currency or some shit that you used to pay for
It's not that hard really? Game is offline, no more server costs, you can play through the story and will receive no more future updates.

It's not like an offline update would take that many resources anyway.

>>737171059
It's impossible for anyone to name one time a corporation getting fucked over was somehow bad for society without ignoring the fact the corporation caused that problem.

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>>737163602
Time will tell.

>>737165270
same
i would love to play metal gear survive again but it was comepltely dead 2 months after i bought it
i will never forgive /v/ for killing a zombie tower defense game in the kojima engine, the movement was so fucking good too. now im sadmad

>>737170820
>Now Melts!
Holy shit, lmao.

>>737171103
big food/medicine/tech tongue my anus

>>737169285
If it's "too complex" to make it, then the whole development team is full of 75 IQ indian saffwah engineers.
Which explains why Ubisoft is shitting itself.

>>737171103
on the other hand, there's plenty of times where a corporation fucked over or tried to fuck over the customers

>>737171082
there are currently doing it with a lesser know game called let it die
it had events and premium currency and was always online
the make it offline, removing premium currency and adding fotm items into the base game (not sure about how). The game will cost 20 bucks
It works, big gacha just doesnt want to do it

>>737171082
The only argument against this is the lie that is simply impossible to do these things, which is a blatant lie games from over 30 years can disprove.
Not to mention the active decision not to accommodate such a feature by willful design.

>>737169632
KEK!

>>737170948
>>737170967
I’m Australian, you are just completely uninformed

>>737171082
Much easier to do what they're doing now: make a social media post and kill the servers at the appointed date.

>>737163602
Even if this was the one good thing the EU does, I still want the EU to be abolished and all its figureheads beheaded on live TV.

>>737171182
I want to buy that on principle but I also fucking hated my experience with the original.

>>737169753
That doesn't work in the EU. Could work only in corporate hellscapes like the USA and Japan.

>>737163602
you will own NOTHING and be happy

>>737171215
FUCK YOU TO DEATH

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>>737171182
>It works, big gacha just doesnt want to do it
Because people don't want to accept the fact gacha games are entirely disposable. If they become a standout success they get to live and milked further, but 90% don't.

>>737163602
He's correct. You literally decided to buy a game that depended on online servers and then cry after they got turned off... 11 years later?

>>737171283
Yes. Game doesn't turn into a paperweight because someone decided it does.

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>>737171215
>I’m Australian
You're clearly American.

>>737170696
> If you sell food or beverages in the EU, you must provide essential information so that the end consumer can make an informed decision on their purchase.

>The information required must be:
>accurate
>easy to see and understand
>not misleading
>indelible
> What type of information are you required to mention?
>name of the food
>ingredient list (including any additives)
>etc etc
Kill yourself.

>>737171283
That game never once made it clear to paying customers that was the case.
>Broadband connection required to play is on the box
>Have broadband connection
>Game doesn't work

It's already illegal. You are losing this war no matter what, bootlicking vermin.

>>737171268
Seeing Japanese faggots mald and seethe like they were experiencing another fucking Hiroshima because some westerners made private servers for this EoS'd gacha was truly an eye opening experience. Imagine, just imagine being such a subhuman bootlicker bug you cry and denounce piracy for a game that literally has no official avenue to be played.

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>>737163602
NOOOOO ROSS YOU'RE RUINING EVERYTHING!!!!!

>>737166286
>Without billionaires gaming would cease.
Some faggot become a multimillionaire by dicking around in game maker for a few years.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind every AAA game studio going under.
There'd be boatloads more indie devs trying to make a living that way with all the massive budget games out of the picture, and the swarm of attempts at copying popular games with niche as fuck spins would be interesting to see.

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>>737163602
>even if it succeeds will only apply to new releases and not retroactively
>games are shit now with nothing worth preserving

>>737163602
With this and the EU now being able to sanction Israel I figure we'll need to send them into WW3 soon. Euros are getting uppity.

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>>737171351
>online play (required)
All there on the back of the box you bootlicking vermin. Stop sucking corporate cock while the government takes your ass and use your eyes for once, retard.

>>737171384
we don't really hear about how crazy the japanese gacha players are because they're in their own bubble, but when they rear their head out it's real madhouse

>>737171418
Where is the expiry date?

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>>737171450
Gacha players (addicts) are subhuman faggots everywhere, they aren't people

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>>737163602
>what you are asking is criminal woke shit, asking the government to bully companies
You just know that a braindead mutt wrote it

>>737171346
>>737171349
believe what you want

>>737171229
Dont buy it if you dont enjoy it
its a nod towards fans, its noble but not enough to warrant outside attention for the game is hevily flawed
In all honesty I only like it for akira yamaokas music, the very strong punk aesthetics and the progress system
the gameplay itself is rather dull and becomes repetitive at higher levels from what ive seen
shit now im not even myself sure if i want to buy it or just reminisence in my memories from the first 40 floors instead
>>737171268
i dotn care about the gacha genre itself, i just took it as an example for as to why it can easily work theoretically with my dangerous half knowledge. Just replace my statement with any other online game and you get the idea. For example guild wars 1 introduced npcs you can do higher level content with and i think final fantasy 11 has the same system. Wow private servers have single player servers with scaling, removed mechanics or npcs depending on the server. the devs are just lazy greedy cunts not noticing that you can milk an offline game too on nostalgia alone so that makes them stupid ontop

>>737171518
Right where it says
>online play (required)

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>>737164168
They sell every smartphone without a free charger apple wasn't singled out.

>>737163840
Exactly. The guy has literally one like.

>>737171408
couldja sauce a nigger up on that cutie? Looking it up did me no favors.

>>737171631
My internet works just fine, and yet…

>>737171656
Tensei Goblin dakedo Shitsumon aru?

>>737171384
>Imagine, just imagine being such a subhuman bootlicker bug you cry and denounce piracy for a game that literally has no official avenue to be played.
The irony is that the nips weren't the bootlickers in that situation, it's the westerners.
The nips were treating piracy like we used to in that we never used to pretend we were in the right, we just fucking did it. The westerners in the other hand licked the boots of hacker groups and "preservationists".

fuck piracy, do monetary terrorism by forcing big corp into lowering their prices to acceptable levels and participate in this broken economy to bruteforce change instead of sneaking in dark alleys like a rat

>>737171679
no because piracy goes out the window when the original game is gone. you're certainly not damaging anyone but letting people play a game that does not exist anymore. it's not the same genre, but that's why city of heroes homecoming private server has ncsoft's approval, for example.

>>737167163
>If I don't get my hamburgers and soda MILLIONS WILL DIE!!!!
Look out everyone, angry fatty over here

>>737171679
Shut the fuck up with your semantic pilpul you odious kike, it's a fucking shut down gacha.

>>737169490
>MMOs are sadly the easiest scapegoat for people to use
Probably because they're built on the foundation of a subscription, which SKG wouldn't do anything about.
It gets iffy with games like FFXIV and WoW that have a box price on top of the subscription, but paying for a subscription is explicitly not buying a product, and they'd have no need to support the game after closing the servers since you paid knowing full well it was just for a month of access.
I don't remember what the idea was about MTXs and whether or not an end of life plan to support your purchased cosmetics counted either.
It's primarily for games like The Division, sold at a box price with no sub fee, but entirely reliant on a central server to be playable despite being sold like Halo or something.
That's the kind of game that would be forced to make some sort of change to keep the game playable forever, whether by becoming single player, getting private server support, or whatever.

>>737165420
It's not natural, that's why we're higher beings to animals.

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>>737171663
Arigatou gosaimasu, Anon-san

>>737165098
>you will be forced to keep those servers running for all eternity, until the heat death of the universe
Or, wild idea, make an offline mode.

>>737171631
okay so since there's no expiration date it means that i can play this game as long as i have internet connectivity? is that correct?