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I’m playing this game and the mustache twirling villains are turning me off. I’ve done the chapter 1s for the paths. Does it get good? When?
What are your thoughts about the Octopath series?
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>>737165995
Oh and do you guys play with ENG or JP va?
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>>737166075
JP. The second half of the story is stronger than the first.
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>>737167493
okay, I’ll stick around for some more time then
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how does this one compare to OT2 and 1. i liked 2 some of the stories in there were great and liked the battles. OT1 bored me and i skipped it
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>>737168843
One "main" character (You) since you're basically playing your account's avatar from the gacha (which you can switch to whoever in the gacha but not OT0). Each story is 3 chapters with the final stories in each of the 2 arcs lasting 8 chapters.
Your "main" character is literally a blank slate and mute (other than in battle and path actions) nothing while the story-centered characters take the spotlight instead.
OT0 shoehorned the town building mode that was also in the gacha.
Writing is much MUCH more anime, especially once the second arc/half of the story starts which is why some people like that.
Characters cannot subclass other than (You), so they're locked to their skillsets and passives other than -at max- equipping 3 active skills you can find/grind for and 2 passive skills you can find/grind for. And there over 35 characters, so you're going to have a bunch of benched units, especially since you're stuck with the first 9 or so for long time until Master of All, then they throw around 7 at you at the last arc.
Has OT2 QoL, but I really didn't like how the skills were basically the same as the gacha for decent chunk of the characters: skill B does skill A but more (see: Cyrus), and the tedium of the 8-man teams. Magic is inferior compared to Physical overall in this game too.
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WAIT did I fucking read this right??? Chapter 2 of Power storyline. Rinyuu sold her body to the scarlet wings? Prostitution? What the FUCK LMAO
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>>737170320
Yeah it’s very edgy.
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>>737170320
It's one of the edgiest JRPGs I've ever played.
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>>737170320
There's a lot of rape in this.
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>>737170320
>>737170513
>>737170634
LOL WTF and now she fucking fell off a mountain and died and Velnorte has a sex doll of her in his house and went insane. Wait I fucking dig this story now it’s crazy.
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>>737170659
this interests me, not a lot of jrpg go this dark
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>>737169764
what do you mean by much more anime though. I liked Hikari’s story in Ot2 and ppl called that anime, so I’m guessing I’ll like it?
and when the party members join you they seem to have their own thing going eg: deltitia with finding her bro, but there’s no quest in my log for it. Im assuming we get that later on?
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>>737171164
Yes, roughly.
Some of them have their own sidequests (like 1 per character and how deep the content varies among them) much MUCH later on, some of them literally get nothing but you could probably count that in one hand. Delitia's brother stuff happens in the Bestower arcs.
>>737170670
Yeah, you're kind of underestimating the game if you only did ch1 which are mostly unremarkable. Master of Fame ch2 > 3 is very good. Most people say that's one of the most interesting arcs and for good reason.
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>>737171437
Okay, I am going to play this the whole weekend now. I changed to JP VA and it’s loads better to me. First time I’m playing an Octopath game for the story. Hopefully I get used to the 8 character thing cuz for now I just forget about them and they just keep sitting there
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>>737171437
Oh but one thing, how does MC even know about Auguste’s involvement in the Wishvale thing? It’s shown that he was hiding the whole time. So the motivation that MC presumably explains with his “…” to Schwartz in ch1 of Fame is a bit strange. Since MC didn’t know about Auguste’s role there’s no reason for him to go after the guy.
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>>737171647
probably learned about it in the years between the destruction and starting their journey? idk
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>>737171561
My absolute GOTY.
Enjoy the 100h ride anon, this game and its story never stop and never let up.
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>>737171647
Retcon.
In the gacha, you were just a random and a fangirl NPC asks you to give a letter to Auguste. Devs definitely didn't plan out the Wishvale thing thoroughly; you can tell as well since Tytos is a LOUD and obvious villain in Wishvale when his personality in Master of Power (aka same as the gacha) does not match that.
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>>737171561
>Hopefully I get used to the 8 character thing cuz for now I just forget about them and they just keep sitting there
MC Hunter has the Sniper passive (only unit to have that) and you can grind that later to unlock > equip on your entire backline so all 4 of them get a whack in at the end of every turn.
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>>737172024
That’s high praise. Looking forward to it. Game is perfect on Steam deck too >>737172031
Yeah, Tytos is the most obvious villain with how Wishvale played out. Could have tried making it linear with his story being the first path and then you learn about the others from him or during the story maybe? Not sure.
I always thought gacha by definition wouldn’t have good story though so it’s kind of a pleasant surprise that the story in this one is good.
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>>737172197
Okay so when does this system (where you can give passives to other chars) ccome up? I want to pass around the study foe passive and then this one that you mentioned, seems really good to have
And btw for the nuts should I just give them all to MC?
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>>737172226
Herminia is actually "designed" for the first arc villain position because of HTAPOTCO
As for roles in the Wishvale bbq, you find out about Herminia's role later in the the Wishvale storyline.
>>737172279
Sometime when you get the training grounds, which is usually after you get Ludo via quest (and I think that was around lvl 28).
Not suggested. You want to give the offensive nuts to the real heavy hitters later (Reime, Cyrus, etc). (You) turn more into a support role during endgame considering how versatile MC's kit is, especially since the superboss is literally just Ultimate Spam: The Fight and MC's offensive ults are shit due to not being multihit.
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>>737172430
>HTAPOTCO
Hmm
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>gacha
trash. no matter how much you scream goty your slop will never be good and this game mega flopped btw
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>>737172963
I know. I played all 3 console game and I still prefer OT2 over OT0. OT1's lower due lacking QoL and feeling its age.
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>>737172963
No it's not gacha, it's de-gacha, the better case scenario
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>>737173025
ot1 is better because it was never intended to be a gacha even if it lacks qol
>>737173030
even if it’s de gacha, it can’t escape its gacha roots and is trash
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>>737173259
>Pay game
>Own it
>No banners
>No gacha mechanics
>Extra content
You're just bitching to bitch at this point
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>>737173659
>extra content
didn’t it actually remove content from the gacha and as >>737172031 said it looks like the devs just shoehorned a bunch of stuff in to make it work. can’t get the gacha characters too and the new ones they made barely have any story.
gachaslop is gachaslop, even if made into a single player it will be bad because of its roots, you can’t deny it
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It's pretty based
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>>737173860
There's one nigga missing
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>>737173923
He was busy that day
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>>737173860
What the FUCK that’s kino
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>>737174143
>>737173860
The fight ends up being a joke with Dohter's + ult+bp refills + ult spam.
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>>737174280
I never got Dohter's because getting your ring back after the trial seems retarded
Plus it's like though the power of friendship you've accumulated a power greater than the ring itself
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>>737174280
So when do people other than MC get ults?
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At the very least, every single Octopath game including this one has banger soundtracks. I think 0 had an issue with compressed sound, was that fixed?
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>>737174360
You can do it whenever, actually. It's probably just better to do it later for better results since I think you get more stats the higher base stats are (aka your level) like the other games.
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>>737174539
This is the one from December 17.
[Release Notes]
- Improvements to overall sound quality
- Adjusted camera movement during battles
- Fixed an issue where the designated manager of the facility built in “Kindlers of the Flame Ch. 4” was being placed incorrectly
- Other minor bug fixes
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Just finished Chapter 2 for all of the initial story lines. Definitely way better than Ch1s. While the three mustache twirling villains are still like that, Herminia’s backstory is pretty sad. They also made me feel bad for Velnorte/Rinyuu, Sonia and Francesca. All in all, I now get why the story is praised. And apparently it gets better in the second half? Whew!
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>>737174590
What I meant was, when do other characters unlock the ability to ult? Because for now only MC can do it. I assume it’s locked until some point in the story.
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>>737175312
Building the Training Grounds in Wishvale, but you (probably) need to have recruited Ludo because it only popped up with a scene to discuss the training grounds after he finally joined.
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>>737174280
Wait you can get your rings back?
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>>737175161
>Herminia’s backstory is pretty sad.
It's worse/better in CotC since it's expanded thanks to her non-canon playable status: sometime during her prostitution days, she met a noble who struggled with money but he gave her all of the love he had for her and she had a happy life with him... then she was taken away from by a mafia boss and forced to have an affair with him; the noble that loved her found out later and then killed himself out of heartbreak thinking he wasn't good enough for her... and then she got depressed and snapped and became the Hermina you know.
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>>737175779
Go back to Aelfric's fire pit after Sazantos joins. Talk to Aelfric.
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I know statistically the game has more customization than 1 or 2 due to the amount of characters and passives you get but without the advanced jobs the game just kind of feels like the customization is way worse. Once I learned that the starting jobs were the only things you get for the protagonist and there wasn't anything additional to unlock for each party member it just kind of bummed me out.
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>>737176361
>customization
This game's actually more restrictive since characters have designated roles and most have trouble getting out of them, at best they can dabble, along with mostly-shitty skillsets: Celsus is an awesome blink tank + speedy buff/debuff/bp/heal bot via skill equips but mediocre to terrible in almost everything else.
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>>737176534
Yeah I guess that's a good point. I just remember in 1 and 2 I was swapping around jobs a lot more throughout a playthrough but I'm ~70 hours into 0 and I've only swapped around team members like once or twice. Like 80% of the game so far has been the same people with just swapping around my ringbearer to different jobs every so often. Once you have your spread of weaknesses there really isn't an incentive to mess with others which kind of sucks.

I wish there was some type of passive bonus or system built around "maxing" out a character. The training ground means you never really need to switch people unless you want to (which I get is kind of my fault for not playing this way). But it'd be nice if the affinity was built around actually using characters instead of doing 3 random actions and never interacting with them again. Make it so being in the party fills some meter and capping it out gives a stat nut or some shit idk
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>>737176687
>Like 80% of the game so far has been the same people with just swapping around my ringbearer to different jobs every so often.
Unfortunately, a huge chunk of the Master of arcs has near-nonexistent character distribution for players until MoA3 and later.
>passive bonus or system built around "maxing" out a character.
That would've been nice, but alas.
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>>737175841
Damn.
So she’s playable in the gacha?
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>>737168843
The cleric and the thief bitch both had kino stories.
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looking at the comments I’m surprised square enix allowed so much rape and depravity in a game? don’t they like consult with SBI for releasing games in the west?
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>>737176932
All 8 of the arcs' main antagonists (and much more) are playable there, yes.
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>>737177039
Is the gacha still playable or EoS? I wonder if playing it after finishing 0 makes sense.
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>>737177032
Both 1 and 2 had rape in them too.
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>>737177127
Localized/translated version is still playable but it's been merged with SEA servers and with a greedy company no less, so in-game currency is... not good for f2ps.
Original JP version is still going as well. Translated version is behind by like... ?1-2 years'? worth of content.
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>>737177197
i haven’t played any octopath games. but still, how is that allowed? why don’t western reviewers throw a bitch fit then?
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>>737177281
Not mainstream enough. The only people reviewing JRPGs for most of those game journalist places are the token JRPG people who aren't going to care much about things like that.
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>>737177281
Because they look down on pixel art jrpgs, they simply haven't seen them because they don't look at them.
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>>737177281
Are you asking why rape as a narrative device isn't outlawed?
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>>737177281
Little sprites probably go past their radar.
There's an exceptionally visually bloody scene later including an on-screen mangled bloody corpse (along with so much killing throughout the game) and all of it was still left in.
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>>737177347
I think he's just looking for some more /pol/ bait about game journo bad or something so he can add to his Twitter screencap folder
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>>737177347
well i asked because westoid journos tend to throw a bitch fit at anything they see as “problematic” and glancing at what people are writing about this game (someone being sold off to brothels, someone selling their body) with sexualized violence towards women id expect them to pick up on it and start running headlines about how it’s misogynistic or whatever.
but i guess >>737177404 >>737177331
>>737177334 sort of answered my question.
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>>737173793
>didn’t it actually remove content from the gacha
It added content and removed content.
I'cirlo is literally inaccessible and thus doesn't exist in OT0 despite it BEING ON THE WORLD MAP since it wasn't relevant to any story and more of a sidequest in CotC.
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>>737177197
Where?
Also how is Octopath niche? It’s over 7m sales for the series.
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>>737177645
OT1 - Primrose's backstory and ch2 in general
OT2 - Claude, aka end of Throne's story
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>>737177645
There aren't a lot of JRPGs that aren't niche. I never said it didn't sell well but in the grand scheme of what's reported by most journalists most JRPGs don't break containment unless they're something like Persona.
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>>737177732
Primrose is pure
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>>737177865
t. Simeon
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was the town building in the gacha or was it made up for the game
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My problem with 0 is that it’s way too long of a game. By hour 45 I was about ready to be done with the game but had 60+ hours left. Just no.
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>>737177912
In the gacha. There was already a character (Nephti) established in the gacha who had the same role (of sorts) in helping rebuild the Nameless Town but she was an apothecary thanks to the 8 class restriction in the entirety of CotC. Stia is basically her OT0 counterpart.
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>>737177614
How far advanced is OT0 modding now?
Last i heard they were adding back cut characters
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>>737168843
It's kind of worse in every single regard than OT2 but also doesn't have any really rough edges like OT1 did.
It's pretty middling and unmemorable to be honest, I've been playing this game on and off for 50 hours at this point, it's 6-7/10 comfort food. I didn't expect much more from it though.
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>>737178914
They've added a lot of characters, but the actual removed content and sidequests would require far more coding effort than people would want to spend time on.
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>>737165995
>What are your thoughts about the Octopath series?
1 felt like an experiment by some amateur devs who were given a proper AA budget but didn't know what to do with it so just made a pretty barebones RPG. I liked some parts of it, for sure, but if I'm being honest I can't say it's a particularly 'good' game. The best story is the one the game refuses to show you and instead you have to fucking read in the middle of a shitty boss rush. A baffling decision, moreso than any other as far as I'm concerned.

2 was essentially the fully realized version of 1. In that regard, I do think 2 is a pretty decent game and have much less to say about its contents without getting into the nitty gritty of it. It's still not perfect by any means, but they at least figured out their MO. A shame the company that helped to make it, Acquire, got bought out by Kadokawa after this. Though considering they were lent out to make Brothership of all things, they could still reasonably come back for OT3, should it happen.

0 really is the middle child of 1 and 2 with some mobage jank still stapled on. The worst parts of the game are when you really notice it. Like when something feels missing (it probably is!) or a character acts oddly different between scenarios. I like it well enough for what it is, which is a more experimental take on the formula that they hadn't gotten down when the game was originally made and only recently figured out before adapting it. It puts it in such a weird spot that I can't quite get across, but if you get turned off by it, I wouldn't blame you for dropping it same as with the first game. In a way, I hope that 0 gets its own 2 at some point so that it can be fully realized itself. A bit hopeful for sure, but that's where I land with that game.
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Sex with Isla
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someone needs to dump the switch 1.0.7 nsp update >:(
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>>737180108 (You)
Oh, I also forgot to mention that the music is fucking fantastic throughout the franchise. I remember reading at some point that Nishiki was more or less brought in for OT2 to help design the characters via themes and music. Which as he stated in the interview, was an unprecedented level of integration for him as he was and still is a freelance musician. And I'm glad they did that, the character themes of OT1 were probably the weakest parts of the OST but OT2's really hit it out of the park and you acan see how they were designed side by side.
I was surprised how good the music in OT0 was as well. Auguste/MoF definitely has my favorite 'main boss' theme with Bestower of Wealth a close second, but I have to give the crown to Elrica. Her theme had absolutely no right to be so fucking good, it caught me entirely off guard.
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>>737180664
>spoiler
They had to. That character is an utter fan favorite: among the top 8 most popular in CotC.
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>>737165995
I like it, but I will say its not as good as OT2. Better imo then OT1, but 2 was a peak JRPG experience.
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>>737165995
>What are your thoughts about the Octopath series?

OCHETTE SEXO
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will you judge me if I tell you I dropped CotC to go back to Blue Archive?
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>>737181520
Yes, I don’t know much about gacha but I know what kind of man you are.
Also WTF Rinyuu survived that fall lmao.
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is there an hdr mod for this one?
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>>737182614
Idk what HDR would do for this one. Just use RTX HDR?
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>>737179954
See this is why we need AI
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>>737183159
"Gemma port this whole quest from this decompiled game on my pc into this decompiled this game on my pc".
Could work, not on first shot, but could work.
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>>737168843
Music is good
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>>737183159
I am sort of excited for whenever a game on these HD-2D engines gets decompiled. Or when RPG Maker releases theirs. I love this look. Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, FFVI with this art style would go hard imo.
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>>737165995
first squeenix game?
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>>737165995
>Does it get good
yes

>when
when you click uninstall
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I will wait for octopath traveler 0+1 that has all of the japanese cotc content.
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>>737176361
It's just a different form of customization compared to past games.
OT0 job system isn't about subjobbing into the OP classes like Starseer in 1 or Armsmaster in 2 but boosting the different characters/jobs you recruit. In the end you're doing the same shit but 0's system gives you more attachment to the characters themselves as opposed to the jobs
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>>737184782
kek, trvke. always say no to gachaslop
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square has been pretty good with their AA offerings. and i liked remake/rebirth too from AAA. this series in particular is pure jrpg comfort food and with the music being so good i rate this one and 2 9/10 and 1 is 8/10.
they really should do a chrono trigger and ffvi remake with this style
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When will I be able to open the blue chests?
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>>737165995
I liked 1 a lot, found 2 too difficult and unfun. People get very upset at my opinion and I don't know why.
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>>737187104
>found 2 too difficult and unfun
Unfun is a matter of opinion but difficult?
It was so much easier and quicker to break the battle system than in OT1.
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>>737165995
I'm actually playing OT1 and have only recruited three characters so far, but are boss fights supposed to take so long? I'm constantly taking advantaging of breaking defenses and shit. It still feels like every boss fight was five minutes too long. Is it just because my abilities are limited early on?
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>>737187280
THOU ENJOYETH THE H'AANIT CHAPTER?
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>>737187259
I hear that but I dont think we played the same game. Fucking Robot Dog in the factory for Chapter 2 broke me. I was 2 levels over too.
I dont know why this game had my number. Im old, Ive played 50 RPGs ftom 1990s till now. BoF2 and FF2 were much easier to this.
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Thing is people just look at guides and totally break the game with save scumming and shit for getting the most broken combos and then complain that the game is easy. If you play the game normally it’s supposed to be hard I think.
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>>737187280
Second half is 4x the first half... Some of the bosses 75% through had HP numbers I swore had to be typos.
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>>737187785
This is my problem with modern gaming. Anyone who save scums and watches guides than complians its to easy should be hung.
When BG3 came out it was a epidemic of retards all bitching about save scumming the game to win every role than bitch about how easy it was, how little fun they had is a god given right.
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>>737187785
You don’t need to be a genius to figure some of this out tho. Like in 0 if you start with the Merchant or unlock it later it’s easy to figure out that Mystic Shot and Arrow of Fortune are mega busted. And then all the good items are 3% entreat so but you have 5 chances to get it so it’s not TOO difficult to get a broken item early, should be around 15% actual chance.
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>>737188037
I agree. I can’t imagine how painful save scumming every roll must be but those retards do it. At that point why not just install a mod or some cheat engine shit to make you roll 20 for everything?
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>>737188083
merchant is way too busted, i started with that and all my characters are maxed already and im fairly early in the game
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>>737188386
>maxed already
Good.
Excess SP can be used to unlock their skills as "equippable skills" for anyone else to use. That's how you get Surpassing Power (among others) on your roster since ONLY ONE CHARACTER has that.
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Cringe game
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>>737186819
You need to have the church built in Wishvale and unlock one of 3 perks:
unlock blue chests (useful)
talk to animals (useful)
teleport to any dungeon/town you went to (gacha callback)
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Oh SHIT bros they got me with the plot twist in fame chapter 3
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>>737188825
Kek that got me too
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>>737188825
>>737188934
Master of Fame was MARVELOUS.
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>>737188673
O
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>>737188825
Frfr
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Is the soundtrack really good as they say it is at ff6/7/chrono/xenogears level?

I might listen to it. Saw the 2nd one is 7hours long on khinsider
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How do you guys have time to play 150 hour games
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>>737173860

>secret boss
>its galdera again
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>>737173860
That's pretty fucking cool.
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>>737195365
I didn't fall for the wife/kids meme
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I loved 1 & 2. Anything I should know about 0?
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>>737197501
It’s a gacha game
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>>737194264
OT2 soundtrack is better, but this is good too.
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>>737198767
It’s not. It’s a de-gacha’d single player game. The de-gacha is what allowed so much content to be there in a game. 120 hours for just story is insane, my OT2 save file at 100% complete is only 60 hours.
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Is 7h20m really worth it? If only a couple of tracks are good then i would be wasting my time

https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/octopath-traveler-ii-original-soundtrack-2023
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>>737199361
all the tracks in ot2 are kino
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>>737165995
Kinopath
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>>737172430
I mainly stacked physical offense nuts on (You) and absolutely tore the game a new asshole. Hunter's final skill combined with the damage cap break and the one you can get from the Wishvale store that makes skills do more damage in exchange for higher SP costs, utterly breaks any kind of balance.

The party I used through the vast majority of the game was the Wishvale team, the Warrior and Scholar you get early on, Ludo, Pious, and Therion.
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Having played other 2D JRPGs like Unicorn Overlord I can honestly get the complaints of the 2D HD aesthetic feeling a bit "lazy". Like the boss fights for example where the boss has actually detailed sprite work, but your characters are still using the overworld sprites feels jarring and unfitting. I get it's supposed to be based on the classic era of FF, but nowadays compared to other JRPGs it does feel lacking.

And I say this as someone that liked the first game and is now trying the second game.
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>>737165995
>Does it get good?
No, it's a fucking cell phone game, and you've been rused.
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>>737190913
Dat nigga's theme continues to live rent free in my head. I am a sucker for the instruments used in it and the fact that it really feels like something you could hear at a theatre during a performance makes it so good for me.
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no one played this game its a giga flop
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>>737202369
It would surprise me if it outsold 2. Back in December they sold 6 million copies and it jumped to 7 million in like two months.
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>>737202369
I did
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>>737202487
It doesn't need to outsell 2 since it's just mostly repurposed assets of an older game that already paid for its development and some. The threshold for profitability was probably really low for Octo 0.
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Honestly IDK how modern square enix can actually make such a kino series like Octopath with good gameplay, amazing art and 10/10 music for all three entries. And then 2 and 0 have some actual good stories too. Just insane
2 and 0 both are goty
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>>737174280
Dude, I just autoattacked with every character and killed him just fine.

>>737197112
The fight is a joke and not worth going through 100 hours of slog.

>>737205415
>octopath
>good stories
lol
lmao
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>>737205415
triangle strategy is the best story they’ve made
but idk what’s up with their naming strategy it’s garbage
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>>737169764
jeez, reading all that actively put me off wanting the game. It's been on my todo list for a while, but if that's how it's gonna be I think I'll just be happy with my OT1 and 2 memories
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>>737205595
Ot1 sucks thoughbeit
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>>737206927
Nigger
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>>737197501
It's hella long
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>>737165995
It’s ok
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>>737165995
I modded it to make the grind lesser and 100%’d it in 70 hours. It’s a long long game. Peaks are absolute PEAK while lows are low. It’s a good game ultimately and sits between 1 and 2 in terms of enjoyment overall.
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>>737211024
The writing sucks



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