you are everything that is wrong with the modern gaming market
NG3 was bad so I skipped this one.
>Nooo you didn't buy the latest yellow paint hallway talky walk that is wearing the skin of a franchise that you used to love over a decade ago!Good
I can't afford to eat.
>>737171931>yellow paint hallway talky walkthat's like 2% of the total package
>>737171865>worse gameplay>shitty art style>new emo twink protagwasn't even worth a pirate
>>737171931Some call him champion, I call him king.
>>737171968Shouldn't have opened with it then
>>737171968Holy fucking shit so they actually put that awful anti-game trash in Ninja Gaiden of all things?YOU are everything wrong with the industry. Fuck you, zoomer rat.
>>737171968Even %0.0001 is unacceptable, you tasteless animal.
>>737172026And they also replaced Ryu with some edgy OC straight out of tokyo ghoul
>secondaries acting like NG has been this epic exploration game after NG1if you were ok with the layout of NG2, you are ok with linear yellow paint.
>>737171865If you bought this garbage YOU are everything wrong with the modern gaming market.
>>737171865NINETY DOLLARY DINGOS????
>>737171865I boycotted it because it was published by Microsoft. Couldn't Koei Tecmo self-publish it??
>>737172081>Is okay with walky talky segments in Ninja Gaiden>Calls others secondariesYou aren't technically a person.
>>737172081Yeah the exploration is the problem everyone has. Retard.
>>737171865>70 shekels at launch>You don't even play as Ryu for most of the storyGay
>>737171865I boughted it, it's not good.Would rather play the first 2 games.
>>737171983>>737172068Yakumo is cute/cool and one of THE most complex action game characters of all time in terms of mechanics and depth. You caring and seething about his looks shows that you're not just insecure but you're also not made for character action subgenre.
>>737171865i fucking hate games where the only thing you do is spam the light attack button for 10 hours straight
>>737171865I'd buy it and support the genre and platinum games if it was any good but since this and bayo 3 are awful garbage I'd prefer for platinum to go bankrupt
>>737172306Bayo 3 was ass but NG4 and Astral Chain shows they still got it.
>>737172109Microsoft funded it as an apology to Platinum for fucking them over with Scalebound. Ninja Gaiden/DoA were prominent Microsoft 2nd party games after all.They also commissioned traditional tamahagane katanas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWx2Hap_TUE which is pretty respectful desu
>>737171865>lol if you didn't buy a game from a studio that mains musou and titty fighters you're the reason le gaming sucks
>>737172792This isn't Omega Force
>>737171865Only played Ninja Gaiden 1. Still need to go through 2 and 3.
>>737171865>buyit's literally free...
>>737172665Acshually it's platinum who scammed microsoft over scalebound by wasting their money
>>737172792>titty fightersDilate
>>737171865If you shill this game, you're everything that's wrong with Japanese gaming>nooooo ignore story, characters, art direction, level design, mob design, boss design and focus on second to second bing bing wahooo gameplay onlythis is why Jap games aren't popular anymore. Yeah slashing feels good but I'm not braindead enough for that to be enough for me
>>737172251>character action>character sucksWhen will they learn?
>>737172827Play NG1 then move to 2 3 4 and see how it progressively gets more "just fight lots of guys and look at cool animations".
>>737172858Xbax kept demanding retarded changes and additions such as the fag protagonist as opposed to a girl that Kamiya wanted.
>>737171865Game pass son
>>737172863Well thing is slashing and moment to moment gameplay is also kinda bad if you compare it to prior plat games or NG 1 and 2
>>737172863>yeah core gameplay is fine but I need wasted budget snoygger moviegame AAAA presentation
>>737172915>Xbax kept demanding retarded changes and additions such as the fag protagonist as opposed to a girl that Kamiya wanted.Xbox is more based than I expected.Although the most based thing would have been to force RYU as the MC
Technically speaking playing as Nero in DMC4 and playing as Viola in Bayo3 is "fine" gameplay. It gets the job done.
>>737171865I pirated and it was mid. blame the million revengeance fans not buying the game made for them.
>>737172996>heh I don't need anything, I can just play a tutorial level in an empty white room over and over againWhy the FUCK are you settling for this? What exactly motivates one to be against good level design? And if you don't have cool characters, you don't have a franchise, characters carry the thing. Imagine if DMC was built around this Bland McBlandface MC instead of Dante
>>737173080Technically speaking having only half game in DMC4 and then replaying levels and fighting enemies on a character that they were not designed for is horrendous design but ok.
>>737173038What part of this is false? Levels literally look like this in the game. Are you happy with this? As long as the bing bing wahoos, a black box is good enough?
>>737173104I am a revengeance fan, I am also a ninja gaiden fan so this one rubbed me the wrong way.
>>737171968That doesn't change the fact that Yakumo has some of the most aggressive auto-targeting in the series, and with enemies that are noticeably less active as well. Compare how much enemies are out for blood in NG2 to NG4 and it's nearly night and day. Same for many of them not have grabs to punish perma blocking, which was taken away...but not really, you can use the blood arts to block as well which kind of makes the weaker basic block sometimes redundant. The game has some foundational changes that I suspect were made to make it appeal to more than just NG and action game fans.
>>737173159True but the slashing was fine though wasn't it?
>>737173128Yakumo is cool.
>>737173205Which game you talking about? Nothing was fine with Dante. Most enemies were designed to be grabbed by Nero or shot with the gun. Yes you could get around it with TRICKSWORDTRICKSWORD but that's not your average player.
>>737173186Hi Mork
I liked it, played it on gamepass. Yakumo was fine if bit boring, the big titty priest was good, I liked the gameplay and levels function fine but look bit boring.
>>737173335No, this is Gork.
It's 40% off on Steam btw
>>737172863>level designOther than Ninja Gaiden 1, Devil May Cry 1 (and maybe 3?) and God of War 1/2 this genre never really had good level designs.
>>737171865No, NG4 needed to flop because Japanese action devs need to stop with trying to replace their heroes. Millennials grew up with Ryu. Zoomers were expecting to play as Ryu bmafter seeing the aura farming tiktoks. But instead, they reveal Yakumo who appeals to nobody. They force Yakumo while nerfing Ryu's kit. NG4 needed to flop. The combat in NG4 is fine, but these need more than just good combat to sell. Without a cool MC, nobody gives a shit.
>>737173270Which enemies weren't designed for Dante?
Why did you guys make this?https://itagakininjagaiden.fandom.com/wiki/Itagaki%27s_Ninja_Gaiden_Wiki
>>737173167yeah
>>737173554NG2 is a REALLY PRETTY gameNG3 I don't remember it being particularly pretty.
>>737172171yeah
>>737172171I don't play NG to ""explore"" and nobody does.
>>737173167>bing bing wahoosWhat the fuck does that even mean? Wasn't that an insult to simplistic platformers? How the fuck does that apply to a solid combat mechanics of NG4? Why do console war schizos participate in these unrelated threads?
>>737173554There's a difference between mid level design and 50% of your melee action game being repetitive rail sections and empty corridors
>>737173186>the most aggressive auto-targeting in the seriesYes, because it's the fastest game in the series with the bigger environment, this is the sad result. I think they made the arenas bigger to avoid camera issues. But when your ennemies are also so fast you need to have magnetism to get any hopes at even hitting them>enemies that are noticeably less active as well.This I will disagree with, because the abusive target magnetism apply to the enemies as well and they will often hit you in ways that makes no sense sometimes and unlike in NG2 they rarely wait for their turn.
>>737173708NG2 and DOA4 were really crisp.NG3 and DOA5 were muddy and grimy. But NG3 still had a more readable and varied color palette than NG4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL2x_3Grjos
>>737173963I'm not at all an NG4 hater I liked it a lot, but holy fuck this art direction>dude let's make everything blue!!!Who hire these hacks?
>>737173270>Nothing was fine with Dante. Most enemies were designed to be grabbed by Nero or shot with the gun.This is bullshit. Imagine believing this. Dante's interactions with the enemies are fine. And some enemies, like the Blitz, Gladius and Chimera, are easier with Dante than with Nero. Dante has way more options to deal with Blitz and can kill them in seconds. Gladius can be grounded with the Coyote, and Coyote can kill them instantly if you shot them while they're glowing right before they attack. As for Chimera variants, Dante can pop their tendrils quicker with Coyote than Nero can with his charged shots. As for the bosses, only Sanctus is easier with Nero. Every other boss is either easier with Dante or equal between the two since Trickster and RG lets Dante avoid and nullify attacks more easily than Nero.
>>737173809>Why do console war schizos participate in these unrelated threads?I dunno. Anons who play games lurk these threads. Consolewarriors don't play video games, so a consolewarrior showing herself in these threads should expect sexual assault, raping, gaping, breeding and insemination.
>>737173640NTA, but Cutlass is pretty obvious example; The entire enemy is built around one shot-ing it with the devil bringer, and you obviously can't do that as Dante.
>>737171865>had a dream about a cool berserk game>wake up>realized it didn't existit was kinda NG like... rip...anyway nu-NG sucks, it's unreal shit.
>>737174268>unrealtim epic raped you retarded
>>737173640Any enemy with parasites attached onto them. Blitz having lighting shield that repels you unless you rg after all of your hits. Flying swords that are designed to be grabbed from air. Fishes inside ground that are designed to be grabbed out from the ground. Every boss with how they go into stun animation that lets you grab them with the fist. Faust that you cannot reach unless you know tricksword and enemy step, and after it loses its cloak you need to full juggle it instead of just grabbing.
>>737174036they cant use yellow because it's reserved for platforming sections.
>>737171865
>>737171865>$70If you paid for this on launch you are everything that is wrong with the modern gaming market
>>737174335>Any enemy with parasites attached onto themCoyote-A charged shots pops them quickly.>Blitz having lighting shield that repels you unless you rg after all of your hits.Dante can break their lightning shields quicker than Nero could with Lucifer or Pandora. Blitz is the worst example since they are easier with Dante than with Nero.>Flying swords that are designed to be grabbed from air.Can be insta-killed with timed Coyote shots.>Fishes inside ground that are designed to be grabbed out from the ground.They're not bad with Dante. E&I can lock them in place due to its faster rate of fire than Nero's Blue Rose. Once Dante's in melee range, he can kill them quickly. >Every boss with how they go into stun animation that lets you grab them with the fist.Then use a strong move like Real Impact. Also, Dante has more defensive options against bosses than Nero. He has an easier time dodging AOEs than Nero since he can Sky Star away from them or nullify it with RG.
>>737174709How do you not have any perspective? Watch any new player play and see how sad it looks.
>>737174196As Dante you supposed to use charged/DTed guns/shotty on them, not the tricksword autism.
>>737174298I just don't like low effort unreal engine games. Japan is literally just selling out embracing that shitty engine.NG2's remake looked worse than the original, it's just gross.
>>737174268NG2 gameplay is perfect for Berserk. People keep saying that a Berserk game should be a Soulslike, but Guts moves really, really fast.
>>737174749>How do you not have any perspective Watch any new player play...What's wrong with that? They're a new player. If a game is mastered the minute a player picks up a controller, then it has no depth nor longevity.
>>737174749>new playerA new player that does not even know how to wipe his own ass has nothing to do with an enemy not being designed for Dante.Best you can say is that enemies are easier with Nero, but everything is easier with Nero, the entire point of Nero was for the average moron to mash buttons to see chainsaw sword go brr and buster.
>>737174927>the game is supposed to feel badNo that's not how it works. If your first playthrough feels bad you have all the rights to call the game bad.
>>737171865I'm not buying a $70 CAG
>>737174971And why wasn't that a problem in 3?
>>737174973You'll never have a career of existing like DSP
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duk4ukgQTek is sped up, right senpaitachi?...my gameplay isn't this fast. Am I just a shitter?
>>737174803I found a mod for the remake so maybe i'll play that one day, I disagree with you though NG isn't as grounded as berserk should be(ignoring his berserker armor and even then it's too wacky)souls is worse though true
>>737175027>why wasn't that a problem in 3?If the fucking asinine logic of "it is harder for Dante. Ergo it was never made for Dante" was applied to DMC3, then nothing was designed for Dante in that game because everything is easier with Vergil.
>>737171865Nah, fuck you, Platinum hasn't put out a good game in a decade and this slop is no exception. Completely fucking generic with gimmicky new mechanics that add nothing to the formula.
>>737175083I checked that things twitter and now I don't wanna touch 4 gaiden.
>>737171931don't forget the glowing parryable enemies and cinematic finishers interrupting gameplay every 5 secondsNGfags are still in denial about the newest mediocre entry of their series being infested by modern gaming trends
I pirated and I realized I don't like hack and slash that much. DMC5 is still on my hard drive unfinishedNot to mention they kill the white hair hottie and I don't care about the emo twink who has negative personality
>>737175045This isn't about me.
>playing anything Platinum made starting with Nier AutomataNot even once. It all sucks. Taura is a hack.
>>737175083He's tricking your monkey brain by cancelling everything.
>>737171865My computer can't run it or I would.
>>737175232>he didn't like NierThis tells me all I need to know about you.
>>737172915Horseshit. Xbox didn't keep a watchful eye on Kamiya and he does what he always does when he's not being pressured: fucking nothing.Kamiya is the king of throwing time and money into a goddamned fire, that's the reason clover got closed in the first place.
>>737171865Nigger, I have untouchable on almost everything in the game.
>>737175363It tells you that I have discerning taste in combat systems and am not swayed by babby's first existentialism or a polygonal ass.Nier Automata sucked balls. Fucking Drakengard was more enjoyable and Drakengard SUCKS.
>>737175449>Drakengard was more enjoyableIt is okay to say you didn't like Nier Automata. It is a sin to tell a lie not even you believe in.
>>737173186The auto targeting is definitely the worst in the series but everything else in this post is false. if you play the harder fights on master ninja and the later trials in this game the enemies are extremely aggressive. they will aim grabs and red attacks for the endlag of your ut. enemies have a much better chance of actually hitting you out of a launcher than in any previous game. both the basic zombie and basic dog have regular (non-red) grabs that can go through your block. yes if you're counting is ninjas on mn ng2 they were more aggressive strictly in the number of projectiles they through but that was the exception for the series not the rule. as for the bloodbind blocks these are never considered optimal to do. yes burning bloodbind meter allows you to block any hit as opposed to just regular ones but one or two hits (at least on mm, not sure if it scales with difficulty) will burn your entire meter and you need that for offense. the regular block is absolutely not redundant and the bloodbind block is actually one of the weakest techniques in the entire game
>>737171865I bought the game and enjoyed it.
>>737174973>the game is supposed to feel badI never implied that in >>737174709. The game doesn't feel like shit with Dante, but if a new player wants to learn Dante then they'll have to learn. They'll have to play the game. A new player will try to fight Blitz with Rebellion. A mid-level player with break them in seconds with Lucifer. A high-level player will RG them for style points. >If your first playthrough feels bad you have all the rights to call the game bad.This is such an insane take. These games are built around replayability and don't expect new players to clear them with high ranks in the first playthrough. Reason why new players struggle with Dante in DMC4 is because>Decision Paralysis: they're overwhelmed by the amount of options Dante has available to him at all times compared to Nero >COMBO MAD videos ruin the perception of what it means to be a good Dante player. Those elite players have thousands of hours in DMC4, and you don't need SWORDTRICKSWORDTRICK nor shit like guard flying to be competent with Dante. This notion of...>If your first playthrough feels bad you have all the rights to call the game bad.Contributes to the enshittification of games. It's why game mechanics are being babyfied. It's why games are being padded with these ridiculous Naughty Dog-esque, unskippable walkie-talkies. It's why yellow paint exists. The idea that the player shouldn't struggle in their first playthrough is making games worse. Since this is a NG thread, let's use NG as an example. NG1 and NG2 sold better than NG4. Unlike NG4, those games actually passed 1 million in sales. In the first playthrough, new players will struggle with Ryu's movement and enemy behavior. But going into the second playthrough, there is no NG+ carryover other than the player becoming better at the game. Meanwhile, NG4's MN mode was designed with NG+ in mind instead of the player's growth in skill. The trust in the player's growth and skill why people still play NG1/2.
>>737175521I've never played Drakengard but I have played Nier and I have to assume he's correct because Nier was literal dogshit and I can't imagine worse combat than that game.
>>737175990>>Decision ParalysisYou mean bad game design. You can't just throw dozen new things at a player at once. It's like they giving you Nero's full kit on first map.
>>737175521It's the truth, anon. At least at some points it was a challenge.Automata's gameplay might as well not exist. It's fucking busy work with no intentionality and no care put into it whatsoever. People whine about DMC enemies being sandbags but the enemies in this game are -canonically- braindead.What's left when the combat is such boring generic crap? Her ass? The robots named after philosophers? Fuck you.
>>737176016Actually the combat gets significantly worse later on because you are forced to play that twinkboy 9s
>>737176180>Fuck you.No fuck you zoomie.
People praised Automata because of its ultra basic platinum copy+paste combat and the fact it had multiple endings Neither of those things is actually goodNo, making someone rerun the game as 9S is not a Kafkaesque commentary on futility and repetition, it's just boring.No, making you run through towers as 9S is not surprise extra content, it's padding.If you clapped like a seal because of the "so meta!" real endings don't bother replying to me
>>737176279Anon I'm 40Zoomers have no idea what Drakengard is and would find all the open sexuality problematic Automata marks the end of Platinum's successful era and the beginning of its pathetic slop era
>>737176079>You mean bad game designIt is not bad design. The player can stick with Swordmaster and switch to other styles when the situation calls for it. As they continue to play the game they'll find themselves switching more often and eventually get comfortable with style switching.>You can't just throw dozen new things at a player at onceYeah, you can. And learning through play is better than the endless tutorials that games have these days.
Reminder that NG2B mindbroke soulstrannies so much they are seething till this day
>>737176443You can say that but 99% of the people disagree with you and that's the reason it's not something that games do. It was done in 4 because they simply ran out of dev time and had to come up with something.
>>737175180Nigga Gaiden was always a certified hood classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg9NpWxP4kMThis whole genre is ghetto coded, just like fightans.
>>737176548It's something plenty of older games do, anon. Believe it or not there was a time when tutorials were minor or nonexistent and if you wanted to know what was up you read the paper manual in the box.
>>737171865v only buy western trash
>>737176548>You can say that but 99% of the people disagree with youIncorrect because DMC4 is easily one of the most successful games in the genre. And 99% of people? You mean the 99% of people that aren't buying new game releases and are constantly bitching about why "old game good, new game bad?"
>>737176661Yeah in old times we also didn't have computers. Throw it into the trash.
>>737176745And DMC5 sold 4x.
>>737176835And DMC5 gave Dante more moves, more weapons and more mechanics.
>>737176903All at once? Nero doesn't even have DT until the end of the game.
>>737175180Is it a man or an actual black queen? If it's a biological black queen, then that's based beyond belief. If it's a biological man, then I'll be fucking seething.
>>737171865There was a time 15 years ago when I had full faith in PG, even through Bayo 2 and Transformers. But everything after Transformers is just... it's just lacking. They came on the scene as devs who can make a cool action game but it just got more and more shallow with each game they made. Automata couldn't even hold my attention for an hour it's wholly carried on Taro's nonsense and nothing to do with Platinum making the combat(after all, people played the first Nier and that was the worst fucking game ever in terms of gameplay)I'm not even one of those Itagaki Black purists but NG has always been the other side of the coin to DMC style action games, if modern TN can only make Nioh then they just need to leave it at that. There's simply no way if KT has to call in PG to make it for them that the game can live up to my expectations, it's gonna be mid slop and not a great action game. Oh and then look... game comes out and they can't even put in Ryu's other weapons, 80% of the game is some OC no one cares about. I feel like I'd do better buying Yaiba than this shit at least then I can laugh at "TAKE A SUCK" and would only be out 3 dollars or whatever they're trying to give it away for these days.
>>737176835Just because DMC4 and DMC4SE held that fort for a solid decade against the reboot. With nothing but a debug mode and truestyle tournaments. 5 only exists thanks to 4 keeping this whole genre alive through thick and thin.
>>737176969it's obviously ai, just look at the text it says gymhsarki really don't understand why you'd catfish in a niche community
>>737176962>moving goalpostsWe are talking about Dante. In DMC5, Dante starts off with two devil arms whereas DMC4 starts him off with just Rebellion. And Balrog in DMC5 is more complex than Gilgamesh in DMC4 since it has two movesets. If you think decision paralysis is "bad design" in DMC4, then it's even worse with DMC5.
>>737175371king is a strong claim, what does that make Tim Schafer? fucking God Emperor?
>>737176976Platinum was struggling after their licensed games (Korra, Turtles, Transformers) underperformed and they were basically on the brink of shutting down. Automata was another low effort project that did gangbusters out of nowhere and that convinced the company to put weight behind Taura (bad move, Astral Chain sucked) and try to make a pivot to more... let's call them cynically designed projects.
>>737177057Thank you, Anon. The development of AI is scary. Catfishing, scamming and revenge porn will be made easier.
>>737171865only game I bought on steam full price
>>737177148Astral Chain was fire
>>737177084Schafer is a fucking amateur compared to KamiyaSchafer actually eventually ends up with a product and all that work is at least in concepts and music people get to see.Kamiya spent 3 years working on Okami and all he had to show for it was a demo of the wolf running with flowers behind it.
>>737177256Astral Chain was ON fire, as in it was a burning sack of shit left on my doorstep.It's a directionless hodge-podge of mechanica from other platinum games and the remains of a twin-stick brawler concept that never panned out with a blatant ripoff of Evangelion stapled on. It's ugly, it's shallow, it's dumb, it runs like shit, and it secured for me the fact that Platinum died with AutomataAstral Chain isn't just a bad game, it is an incompetently made one.
>>737176414Do you even have reflexes and muscle memory for these combos unc? You're way past the expiration rate for this genre (25)
>>737177256Astral Chain was actually the EXACT moment I completely lost faith>>737177401 this guy's got the sum of itbut really what drags it down is the huge amount of playtime that ISN'T combat stages. I don't wanna walk around investigating shit just for the sake of the setting holding itself up. I don't want to play the fucking rush hour car puzzle in an action game I want to fucking explore the combat mechanics.
>>737177193Baste
>>737177401whatever, nigga
>>737177428Anon I regularly do hard ng kms runs in god hand, my favorite game and the best action game.I will still be better at games than you when I am 90.
>>737177604Looks like one of those new action gachas desu
>>737171865I saw the gameplay. It was literally the most uninspired and drab level design I've seen in a decade. The environments turned me off the game completely
>>737171865>buying games on releaselmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR5LpygG778
>>737177576The police walking sections got really old really fast but for a hot second they were injecting some desperately needed personality into the game. Still, they needed to turn down the fuckin' bloom.
>>737171865Im not a gamer but I did buy it and play through it. I liked it.
Ninja Gaiden BlackNinja Gaiden IIThat's it
>>737177902 I beat God Hand too unlike most of the shitters on this board. The reason I dropped it is because, unlike DMC/Platinum games they don't let you keep the shit you've unlocked for the second playthrough. Fuck that.
>>737171865shant be buying actionslop, simple 'as.
>>737171865I got it day 1. They're apparently only making a new Ninja Gaiden every 13 years, so I didn't care much about the price.
>hmm I wonder why action games are dying >the targeted audience: >>737175000 >>737177984 >>737172109 >>737174634
>>737171865I'm in the wrong for wanting a real NG game made by Team Ninja instead of them outsourcing it to hacks who don't know how to design action games and parading the dead corpse of NG in my face? Kill yourself.
not interested in buying a shit game that replaces the main character of a franchise
>>737178342i really don't understand the TN obsession especially after they released nioh 3that company is completely gone and dead, you could make excuses for sop/wo long/rotr but not nioh 3
>>737178390Raiden bros...
How's the dlc
>>737178612Not worth fifteen buckaroos desu
>>737178612fun, best levels in the game
It was a good game but Yakumo was such a fucking boring dogshit protagonist. He wasn't even a teen edgelord in a funny way like DmC Donte, instead he's more like DMC2 Dante, he's just...there. Not even bad enough to clown on. Just mediocre and forgettable, the worst sin an action game protag can commit.
>>737175186>cinematic finishers interrupting gameplayThat's NG2 with constant OTs and UTs. Also having enemies communicating visually their attacks is much better than simply having the player guessing if an attack will crush their guard or not. That's gaming 101, something that Itagaki failed to grasp, hence why he never made anything good and was carried by someone else at TN. Also, Platinum made Ryu command much more presence in NG4 alone as a mentor figure than Itagaki did in both NG1 and NG2.
>>737178237NG+ doesn't let you keep your stuff but it's all available in the store from the word go, you can just gamba for a minute and then buy your endgame loadout to take to the arena or do a kick me sign or whatever.
>>737179132>Mask falls off completely and it's a shitter that doesnt even like NG1 and 2What a surprise
>>737171865This doesn't even play like ninja gaiden. Not a bad game but its just a nu-platinum games game
Oh the Itagaki hater is here. Now the thread is complete.>>737179132>Platinum made Ryu command much more presence in NG4 alone as a mentor figure than Itagaki did in both NG1 and NG2.Utter woke nonsense.
>>737179215I never gamble. Also I don't want a single loadout. I want everything because I kept changing and experimenting the whole game. That was my main point of fun.
>>737178650>>737178686The duality of man. Fuck you all lol
>>737179437Both are right.
>>737178650Is it worth....TWELVE dollars then?
>>737179367>I never gambleThat's sad, the puppy races are fun.>I want everything because I kept changing and experimenting the whole game. That was my main point of fun.Really? I mean, customer's always right in matters of taste, but the equippable moves are highly redundant. The game's mechanics are deep but only deep enough to make, like, 20 truly unique moves as opposed to the 114 or so that are available.In my mind all the depth and replay-ability comes from the back-and-forth with the enemies and counterhit windows and trying to climb the adaptive difficulty as opposed to combo crafting.
>>737178612Not worth the money. It's three levels, granted they are the best levels in the game with a nothing story and Ryu gets sidelined again. The new weapons are okay but the scythe seems a bit too strong. The music is way better in the DLC because it doesn't have Victor Borba and it doesn't bait you with a cool metal song before wussing out as you get to the boss fight. There are no unlockable costumes and the trials are repeats of what was in the base game. The bloody palace mode is okay but not really worth going through with so little content in the game as it is.
>>737179523>puppy racesThat is animal abuse just like horse races
>>737179828what's with the Victor Borba slander...
>>737179828>The bloody palace mode is okay but not really worth going through with so little content in the game as it is.What an absolutely nothing statement.>don't play through the mode because...just don't go ok it doesn't have 30 hours of story mode
>>737178338DMC 5 wasn't $70if you're not DMC then you shouldn't charge more than DMC
>>737180273Capcom has all the money in the world.
>>737180273dmc5 also wasn't an action game
>>737180426
>>737171865I watched a video of it and it looked horrible. The only colors were blue and red, I don't want any game that looks like that. Use the whole palette or fuck off.Also one short cutscene is NOT an acceptable amount of Ayane's breasts.
>>737179984That's fair. I mean that the Bloody Palace mode isn't anything that different from the base game until you're very deep into it and there's only so many enemies to pull from to make interesting fights. Might as well play the story again I'd say.
>>737180761Well...every bloody palace is just the main game. What did the dmc3 and 5 ones do different? It's the base game enemies put in a small room and you fight them
>>737178338They seemed principled unlike most gamers these day. I don't see the issue. Make a good game and charge a fair price for it.
>>737180463if you consider dmc5 an action game where it isn't playable without cheat engine on 1.5x and you can't play as DANTE in all levels you are retarded
>>737179969He's good for the one song in DMCV and that's it. Also wish there was more than one singer like in MGR.
DMC5 replacing 2 and DmC as the most hated Devil May Cry game is just too funny to me. Even Elden Ring had a longer honeymoon before /v/ made a 180° on it.
>>737181398You're a brown schizo.
>>737181462Nah. I'm not the one who went from doing a Devil Trigger cover to declare 5 to be the worst thing ever. And when the upcoming new DMC game ends being a horrendous piece of shit (everything points out it will be a Dustborn, of all games, clone) you will do a 180° again and pretend you judged 5 "too harshly".
>>737181104True. I don't like it in DMC either. I'd rather replay the story to DMC. NG4 doesn't have a strong enough enemy roster for a bloody palace mode
>>737181552No way...people were hyped for a DMC game that looked good and then you actually played it and realized how many wrong things they did?????
>>737181552Holy fuck the crash out. You really are a brown schizo.
There is also the fact that Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden 2 solved the action game genre, just like Street Fighter 3rd Strike solved fighting games. No matter what kind of game any developer makes, it will simply be worse than the peak. Maybe they should have never bothered making new Ninja Gaiden games at all, because it's only down from there.
>>737181743>3rd Strike glaze parrot HELLO PLEBBITWITCH SECONDARY
>>737178442I'm not talking about modern TN, that company has nothing to do with the people who made NG2 as you correctly pointed out. I'm talking Itagaki TN. NG is better off dead nowadays
>>737182431absolutely ridicolousthey made nothing but great games and only a small portion left to soleil
1>2>3re>4 Ng4 is not a real Ninja Gaiden game. Also some of the worst visual/environmental design ive seen in a very long time
>>737175186retard
>>737175083It's edited but the speed is roughly normal, there's just a lot of cancels for no reason.
>>737181743NG2 is far from flawless.
Ninja Gaiden 4 > Nioh 3And I don't even like NG4 that muchInsane how washed modern TN is
>>737171865But you guys told us we should be non-buynary.We didn't do anything! How can you blame us?
>>737183220This game has cool men, cute girls and great gameplay. It's not a woke western GAAS shooter.
>>737183560You guys also told me they replaced manly man Ryu with some zoomer metrosexual protagonist.
>>737171865Platinum games are garbage and this isn't Ninja Gaiden. Fuck off
>>737183874we like that
>>737183931>Platinum games are garbageYou just hate this genre desu.
>>737171865I would buy the game, but only if they did a reprint with the DLC and updates on disc. I hate DLC beggars so much because they make the first print copies useless and inferior
>>737184408>physicalfag in big 2026
>>737184568Physical, GOG, or piracy. I'm not paying for digital licenses. Enjoy owning nothing.
>>737171865I wanted Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance II.I would've bought Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance II.Instead we got Ninja Gaiden with some random fag instead of Ryu.I won't buy Ninja Gaiden about some random fag instead of Ryu.
>>737184816https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjb1b7t_3OM
>>737171865I bought this and NGB2 and NGB2 is way better
1>4>3RE>2
>>737173435i might pick up the legendary edition for 2 euro in a decade
>>737184729BASED as fuck. At worst, if you reaaally have no choice, you can always buy the digital version AND pirate the game immediately after, so you'd still own the game regardless. People who ONLY buy digital and call it a day are retards. Always have a backup (physical or pirated)
>>737184873I won't even hit play because the thumbnail comparing Minuano to that lame ginger cunt already popped a blood vessel in my left eye.
>>7371850272 is the peak not just for the franchise but also for the genre
>>737171865You want me to buy day one then you release for $30, bitch. I got backlogs that let me buy games on my own schedule.
>>737185309>smug one handed rival cyborg samurai with a cool transforming helmetIt's just a neat parallel.
>>737185858>Peak for the genre>When every boss other than Genshin either just sucks or dies in like five hitsSure.
>>737185858only the first 2 chapters and 11 in a 15? chapters game
>>737171865im not even going to buy physical games anymoreespecially since all my legal pc but my 14 year old laptop are all shadowbanned for not buying bad games and playing mods and what i own instead
>>737171865It's a $45 game
>>737185149Thanks. It's just common sense
>>737186097Shit bosses are a common gripe in this genre. It's all just bloat and gimmicks until a humanoid similarly sized rival or a doppelganger appears. Hell some games have shit regular enemies as well like DMC3 yet it gets praised anyway.
>>737171865You're right, I played it on gamepass. Not apologizing.
>>737178176>Ninja Gaiden Black>Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword>That's itFtfy
>peak for the genre>look inside>only 3 enemy types are claimed to be "fun">only 3 encounters are ever claimed to be "good" because they have those enemies>only 3 moves at most are worth using on every weapon>even then they're outclassed by mashing Wind Path, Guillotine Throw, and UT making every weapon the same, just add "fast delimb string" and OTs>zero difference in how any of the above should be used in 99% of fights, the strongest strategy is the easiest, most applicable, most encouraged and most rewarded in both essence and score>if ever in danger despite near permanent iframes and instakills with little to no interaction you can chug items and spam Ninpo, the game drowns you in essence>didn't even have mission mode or real alt costumes until DLC>couldn't even hold a playable framerate until another console gen later
>>737188864not gonna read it at all but all enemies are fun to fight, tell me what are the annoying ones like the small mecha bots in ng2
>you can chug items and spam Ninpo
>>737171865I played it on GamePass. On a free trial. Does that count?
make it cheaper then.
>>737189053No.
>>737171865I bought it and I regret spending money on it. All it did was make me mad.
>>737188864>only 3 enemy types are claimed to be "fun">only 3 encounters are ever claimed to be "good" because they have those enemies>only 3 moves at most are worth using on every weaponThis sort of reductive and dogmatic mentality to action games is fucking stupid.>Durr Vergil is dah best boss ever so every action game boss should just be 1v1 rival fights>Durr NG has the best enemy design ever action game should all just have NG enemiesThis is as retarded as soulsfags saying every 3d action game should have a one button roll or Sekiro parry, stop trying to boil everything down into generic shit you retarded niggers
>>737171865I have arthritis
>>737171865not my ng
>>737189294the call is coming from inside the house
>>737188864>>only 3 enemy types are claimed to be "fun">>only 3 encounters are ever claimed to be "good" because they have those enemies>>only 3 moves at most are worth using on every weaponThat's much better than Ninja Gaiden 2.
>>737189046He's dodging the accusations.
>>737189294..What? Who the fuck has fun fighting the mecha lizards in ng2?
>>737172026>>737171865They lied about NG4 being a "collab" between developers. It's almost 99% licensed platinum games slop, and that company had already been losing most of its talent, some of them going right back to capcom to do things like Pragmata and the Okami sequel.NG4 is just MGSR but worse full of literal box cube shaped arenas and yellow paint. Team Ninja has NEVER been able to do right by Ninja Gaiden ever since they lost oatmeal cookie and became slaves to annually released Nioh slop.
>>737190363reread the post
>>737189817>not my ngngnigniggerNigger GaidenThat's what Ninja Gaiden 4 lacked, it didn't have the nigger element. Ninja Gaiden is spiritually a nigger franchise. When you play Ninja Gaiden you want to feel like a nigger fucking shit up. You don't want to play as an anime girl or some K-pop boy reject, you want to feel like an aggressive high test gorilla nigger unleashing absolute carnage on your foes.Itagaki knew this.
>>737172863the funny thing is that itagaki knew how important all of it was, while also being roughly 10 times more talented than everyone at faginum combined. NG1 and 2 were literally more than a generation ahead of anything else, and NG2 is still so unmatched when it comes to the animation tech that it makes the latest 2026 slop entry in the "same franchise" look like amateur pajeet blender tutorial shit in comparison
>>737171865Brother, that shit is just too expensive.I want to play it, i want to support hack n slashes, but man, 90 fucking bucks? Call me a poorfag but i'm sorry.
>>737192814>>737173435
>>737171865>$70 dollaroos>Still wanting $45 dollaroos for base game + DLC tip on saleNah, MicroSlop only have themselves to blame.
>>737172863this isn't even NG it's the game industry as a wholein terms of action game i'd rather have it peak gameplay(ng4 has it) than peak characters and art direction.I also really doubt ng2 retards remember the game past the first 2 chapters, all the weapons have only 2 good moves and enemies are horribly designed except for the ninjas. If NG2 would've started with I don't know chapter 5 no one would even bother to be obsessed with the game.
>>737171865NGB, NG2B + white mod and NG4 + DLC are all pretty good and unique. 3 + RE is dogshit but I love the new narrative that its actually good lmao
>>7371931323RE is better than 4. DLC for it is worthless so no reason to bring it up. Should've been a patch.>new narrative You're just a newfag nigger, probably also raped as a child. /v/ liked RE as soon as it hit the Wii U. People were surprised how they fixed the base.
my favorite part of ng is doing QTEs to climb walls with my epic kunais
>>737190520>They liedOk but... The game is still good.
>>737173224no he isn't. he is a cringe zoomer retard with a dumb fuck haircut and name. Ryu is cool.
>>7371938023RE will never be good no matter how much you cry and shit yourself lmao
>>737197150>dumb fuck haircutWhat's dumb about a messy fringe? It's cute and it goes well with his menpÅ. Also neat how we see both of his eyes after the final boss.
Just bring me back DOA. NG can go piss in the grave.
>>737189102Well shit. I'll buy the digital deluxe this christmas on the deepest sale possible on my PS5 then, is that good enough?
>>737197995You better buy it, slut.
>>737190520>MGSRNever happened>in b4 MGR2*Don't disrespect MGR and the early 2010s PG staff like that.
>>737197927The stupid white streak makes him look so much worse. Maybe secret demon magic changed his hair color and not bleach. Whatever reason they contrived for it, the design sucks.
>>737197927Asian Boy Princess
>>737197628Seethe, newshit.
>>737171865>no tits>barely any Ryu>less weapons THEN I'M EVIL! FAGGOT!
>>737200639>no titsb-but she even has areola textures...ayane too
>>737171865I just wanted to play with Ryu.For similar reasons I had no interest in Nightshade because I just wanted another game with Hotsuma as the protagonist.
I wonder if all these faggots in love with Ryu also like DMC5.
>>737200936I wanted this. Fuck that garbage boobhood.
Played the first game. Hated it. Absolutely hated it. I hear this one is the best in the franchise
is the DLC any good?
>>737171910you missed out on peak
>>737200980How cruel and gay. They were really proud of her.
>>737201260It is. If you hated backtracking through the same streets over and over to eventually make your way to a bow section against a helicopter, this should be more to your taste. If you hated smacking monsters with a katana, NG4 isn't up your alley.
>>737201402>modernAnd that's where they fucked up, ninjas don't need to be modern, they're so badass they can take on enemies armed with modern weapons and win, that's the whole fucking point. Also, woman.
>>737178864so exactly the same as Ryu?
>>737201402It is what it is.
>>737201663If it's the same as ryu why bother replacing him
>>737201787because he has different abilities
>>737178864This, cardboard cutout protag.
>>737201212>I wanted AI sloppa Grim
>>737200556Keep going
>>737201638No you nailed it.Hated:>shitty helicopter, tank, giant worm bosses>shitty castlevania lite level design where you look for a stupid key or statue then backtrack>fighting literally like 40-50 of the same fucking enemy in some arenas>underwhelming bosses with limited move sets
>>737178025>I'm not a gamer but->on /v/>on /v/ Video Games.Bro?
>>737171865I played it in Game Pass.With that said my main gripe is it a simply doesn't look like Ninja Gaiden. It has some elements that resemble, it has moments that resemble but it feels like a cheap imitation. The priestess design is ok but Ayane is terrible. The nu protag is ass, the weapon selection is weak. The levels feel long with the repetitive sections. Most of the bosses feel like they don't belong in a NG game.
>>737202247Then this is more likely to be what you expected a game called Ninja Gaiden to be like. I'd play it, both because it's fun and because it's nice to see cool things from the other NG games again with enemies and bosses that are enjoyable to fight.
Buyane and her cute toes were actually playable but got cut btw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izf3tsNF3-8
>>737198123AND the sequel. Wish they add Yakumo and NG4 costumes for Hayabusa and Ayane in DOA6LR since they will be in DOA7.
>>737204504My fucking webm
