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What's the appeal of this game and its clones?
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Clicking.
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It's gambling without the risk of losing your money.
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>>737179869
this
only gambling your time
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>>737179869
This
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>>737179801
Fun to figure out how to build your character and items to get as far as possible through the game and, after that, difficulties.
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>>737179981
>Waheed
you aight white boy
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LoD > D2 > D1 > VoH > RoS > D3 > D4 > Immortal
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>>737179801
No fear of failing to meet challenges, no creative thinking, study, or motor control required. It's like gacha but even more boring somehow. Basically this series is designed for extremely boring people.
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>>737179869
>without the risk
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It was a genre definer. You had to be there to get it. And no, it doesn't hold up to modern standards unless you QoL mod it.
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what happened with the expac or whatever for d2
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>>737179801
My understanding is that it's about doing the same thing over and over until you get the right jpg
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>>737179801
its high IQ genre, you wouldnt get it
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>>737180349
Got shilled hard here for a few weeks, then the threads vanished. Almost like a contract period was met or something.
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It’s the genre people who are bad at games and have no brain can enjoy and play. Like an action point and click adventure with no puzzles or a warcraft with no thought or strategy needed.
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>>737179801
What i liked was 8 player mode on closed battle.net
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>>737179801
Low effort relaxation while slaughtering hordes of evil.
It's why modern Blizz just doesn't fucking get it. Everything needs to be a timed competition they can sell as an esport while 99% of people don't fucking want that and most actually hate it. Doing the same thing to WoW made their social game 100% antisocial.
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>>737179801
If the idea of literally walking down to hell to slay the devil it self is not a cool concept to you you just are not cool
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>>737180349
Basic QoL features sold for money, removed 'old' D2 look (it was fake and gay. but still), OP class made with modern approach to game design for a game with old af design. IT's mostly an advert for D4, trying to get oldfags into that and sell D2 to newer players
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>>737180349
It added stuff like stash space that mods already did before. New class is just necromancer with gimped minions but one gets an aura and one attack ability is brokenly OP. There is a palette swap of the ancients fight. If it was a free patch it would have been rightly mocked.
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>>737180770
>>737180773
Warlock is still the best class idea and fantasy Blizzard ever added.
>necromancer but with demons
Yes.
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>>737179801
Thoughts on Hero Siege?
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>>737180954
1 demon plus 1 at 10 and 20 skill points is pretty lame. Actually going to grab Hephasto as a minion was a huge waste of time and cursed/fantaticism would take hours and hours to find then disappear if you die which you will if you need to be minmaxing cursed/fanaticism minion.
The minion itself is basically invincible at least.
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>>737180994
I bought it but idk if I just got tricked by PoE content creator troons
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>>737179981
Give ber pls.
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>>737180994
>buy game for real $
>banned for literally nothing, please submit the appeal in our Discord!
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>>737181681
I don't understand what happened?
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>>737179801
The JRPG genre of their time.
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>>737179801
Let's go gambling!
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>>737179801
It was cool as shit. I don't think it has aged perfectly, or rather the genre just evolved far past it.
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>>737181757
You played the game and you got banned for that, shrimple.
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Is the D3 campaign really that ass?
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>>737179801
Marvel Heroes was the only good ARPG
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>>737180485
Isn't it crazy a cookie clicker game could take the ARPG genre title. I guess that's what happens for being 5 years before Demon's Souls
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>>737181941
No, well.. My first Diablo was D3 and that shit was so fucking fun
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>>737179801
Dopamine >>737179869
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>>737181941
1st Act is pretty good, besides constant 'remember Diablo 1 bro?' moments. After that it's super unpolished, pointless, the story is nonsense, in general feels and looks like a comic book. Expansion is a bit better again, a lot of anime power up nonsense tho.
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we need this:
actual new endgame
rebalance, fix melee
new act

without these things I rather play poe1/2 or project diablo 2. adding a new character just so you can farm the same shit is pretty much pointless.
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>>737179801
Kill shit
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>>737179801
I just play them as rpgs. Theorycraft a build and see how far I can get. Played pretty much all the big diablolikes and have never done endgame because its designed for minmax guidetrannies lol
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>Cain dies to a butterfly
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>>737179801
i'd explain it, but you're already demonstrably too retarded to have examined it yourself, so you probably wouldn't understand anyway.
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>>737179801
essentially made for people who like to see numbers go up or just watching your character slaughtering everything in their path so definitely not for everyone (though it skewed more towards dad gamers from what I can tell). im a zoomer though and my first exposures to this genre were grim dawn and chronicon. i really really tried to enjoy D2(R) but i just can't do it past the first 5 hours. might try something like pd2 and see if that will click while waiting for GD's new expansion
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>>737182759
based grim dawner. i played the d2 mod for grim dawn and it was honestly better than d2r. you should try it out. it's called "reign of terror" i believe.
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>>737179801
the story
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you can roll play as a vessel for the prime evils thats always fun dibs on being the host for the Lord of Terror
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>>737179801
atmostphere, music, violence, story
it's biblical, kind of the story of humanity.
It was really cool.
It's magical
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>>737182206
name of the blonde?
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>>737179801
The graphics and atmosphere and violence. Somewhere along the way devs thought people liked the gameplay and completely lost the plot. Look at hoe D3 and 4 looks lol. Like fucking cartoons.
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I've played a little bit of D2 in the past but beat Hell difficulty for the first time using a Demon + Blood Boil Warlock. Pretty fun, it's a damn good game. But now that I'm starting to farm act bosses, do Lower Kurast runs and shit like Pindleskin I want to delete my character. I just learned about these Worldstone Shard that terrorize an entire act, but I haven't seen them drop yet. I would much rather do that then 200 Countess runs with nothing but low runes to show for it.
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Diablo 2 is a good game and overall package. Titan Quest is decent clone.

Path of Exile however is garbage for midwits who like to pretend they're smart. Not to mention always online...
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>>737179801
In 2026? Dress-up simulators.



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