More than a decade later, what do you consider its impact on the wider vidya landscape to be?
>>737180305I forgot half of this board couldn't even read when this shit took place
>>737180305The decline of the american empire was caused by this single event
it was just a wizard of oz momentif you saw you never forgotno impact, the trends were obviously fully progressing as normal
Pretty much the complete death of gaming journalism as it stood. Everyone just follows "influencers" now. For better or for worse.We didn't stop them fucking up the games, but everyone *did* stop buying AAA games. We're pretty much still stuck in a stalemate. The corporations wont make games for us because they get fed money from elsewhere, but the games all flop because they're bad. Game journos and industry cliquers are still the worst people on the world, but who even listens to them?Pretty much no one actually likes video games, or being involved in gamer culture, as it stands.
>>737180305It made some red haired Tomoko clone and she got a bunch of porn and anyone who talks about Gamergate is seen as an 8ch gooner
>>737180305The normie/shill version of events is so retarded that it's a miracle anyone believes it>a bunch of salty fags just suddenly attack Zoe Quinn for no reason/cuz they don't like women in gamesYou gotta have some hyper cognitive dissonance just to keep it all straight in your own head
>>737181129you literally just have to bring up any woman who was involved in the industry, did their job well, and never faced any kind of backlash, of which there are hundreds.
>>737181036>We didn't stop them fucking up the games, but everyone *did* stop buying AAA games.I have no idea why you would think that is true. The highest selling games of every year are always all AAA games and that hasn't changed in recent years.But then you are retarded enough to believe gamergate caused the death of games journalism and not just people prefer watching ecelebs over reading the printed word.
Moot was a filthy traitor. Death to Gawker and the lugenpresse.
>>737180305Literally nothing because the 'wider vidya landscape' was completely unbothered. Normies do not give a shit, they just want the next live-service slop. People who actually care about video games have always been a tiny minority.
>the wider vidya landscapeMost normalfags successfully got psy-opped into believing the (((wikipedia))) 'official story' that it was a 'harassment campaign' targeting muh wimminz. Nobody learned anything from it.
>>737181232Sure, the "too big to fail" normie hits like Fifa or Pokemon or whatever (you will notice these also cater to the tastes of their audiences). Second tier AAA games are just hitting flop after flop. Ubisoft is on the brink of disappearing. Things that should have been sure hits like an open world Star Wars game just fail to generate any sufficient level of interest.
meant basically nothing to the actual video game spherethe "it's all just chuds" narrative started coming true given how many talking heads for it like sargon of akkad or milo yiannopoulis were proto-chudstailspinning and dying because it got repeatedly co-opted was for the best for itsjw/antisjw movements are gay as fuck
They saved western civilization.
>kotaku went out of business like 3 times already>somehow, someone always buy it out and keeps it in business How come Americans have infinite money for gayass propaganda?
>>737180305negative more than positivemaybe game journos died, but it didn't help matters any because game journos just donned the title of influencer and worked that way insteadwhat have you truly won in the end, absolutely nothing and the problems they tried to observe just now happen in a different way with the same result
>>737181457A "chud" is just a man who objects to being abused. You literally created the chuds by abusing people who were fully plugged into the consumer ecosystem before.
Cutting out the bottom from video game journalists so that instead of a bunch of danger-haired feminists and their self-hating simps monopolizing all the politicization of a medium, you now include people like Thiel and Asmongold who occupy a different (but no less obnoxious) part of the political spectrum. Both sides don't give a fuck about video games in reality, it's just a vessel for them to make money and push their respective political views (which they also don't care about, they just want money and power.)>>737181479Because "going out of business" when you are a for-rent propaganda whore doesn't actually mean anything. Brand recognition matters and if you forcibly keep easy Google searches from describing how and why Kotaku sucks, and nobody is interested in contriving controversy about why it sucks, then the brand still has value.
>>737181513"realizing gaming journalism was corrupt was my turning point" is probably the most pathetic political awakening anybody could have
>>737181513>is just a man who objects to being abusedand what has the motion to object really accomplished
Exposed the rot currently engulfing western civilization. It will all come to an end soon, one way or another
>>737181562Thanks doc.
>>737180305QRD?
>>737181580>It will all come to an end soon, one way or anotherok, how much time did you want us to give you for this to happen200 years?
>>737181573An international backlash to leftist bootlickers and multiple corporations going broke
It had good intentions, but it was drowned out by political autism.
>>737181573>resisting bullshit only matters if you can resist and change all of it simultaneously/v/ - Autistic Debate Club
It snowballed into a cultural phenomena where nobody trusts established media outlets anymore which is a positive I guess. Problem is nobody has wised up to the fact that bad actors need to be rooted out and destroyed or else they destroy your movement from the inside.
>>737181612kek
>>737181635you're taking credit for hulk hogan's lawsuit and the very very early gamergate that was fixated on actually getting results by emailing advertisers to strangle kotaku
>>737181563so you are anti-gamergate for that?
>>737181513>I was awakened to my abuseNo, you were manipulated by Epstein.
>>737181563it was more the fact that the "real journalists" and TV writers, and pretty much everyone else in a position of authority all stood up in unison to defend the game journalists.To which we responded "what the fuck is going on here?", and then nothing ever looked the same again.
>>737181651wow it's nothing.jpg
>>737181697Blaming the entire existence of /pol/ on Epstein like he was running the JIDF slide headquarters, or somehow posting everything they cared about all by himself, is such a hilarious cope.
>>737181697just like his forebears in occupy wall street!
>>737181513You were given easy bait and yet decided to make the most faggy response possible.
>>737180305It exposed a lot of people who just wanted to play video games to the truth that government and business really will collude to manipulate culture and pull sleight of hand-style tricks, just to avoid being accountable to the majority.This made plenty of those people into reactionaries who began reflexively assuming everything they didn't like was part of a willful conspiracy to Make Your Life Worse. And now we have tens of thousands of guys who weren't even around for GamerGate who think all women are evil whores and Anti-Semitism is Progressive somehow.It's not even a new phenomenon. When times are good and mainstream art actually follows the market, people are content with the world they live in. When times get bad, the people in power try to manipulate consensus to avoid the need to surrender any of their power for the common good. This was just the most recent attempt, and it backfired.
>>737181697>everything that happened ever is Epstein, because he mentioned moot once in an emailSo, what? Just don't respond to being abused? What is your actual solution to anything? Keep your mouth shut and be a good little slave?
>>737181634>usWho?
>>737181807the usa dude duhhh where are your pants
You now remember Brianna Wu
>>737180305It won by venue of doing nothing.Feminists went in thinking they are gonna reduce sexism, misogyny and rape.First fuckup: There was no rape to reduce since nobody in the gaming industry rapes except for male feminists, see NeoGAF and game journos constantly being jailed. So the only thing they achieved is antagonize an entire male community by bringing up something nobody was engaging in as a false accusation.Second fuckup: Social retardation.Good intent is automatically countered by poor execution thereof.Feminists came in knowing nothing about male psychology and sociology in video games and outside of them.End result is misogny and sexism rising in the past 16 years, and survival and self-interest instincts being prematurely activated among a swathe of growing hormonal males. Feminist had nothing to offer of interest to the male community, nothing for paying bills, employment, ability to pay for games, nothing in entertainment factor either as all Feminist video games are discount clones and copy pastes of past games trying to deceptively pass off as something novel while stealing credit and being written in a cringe manner.So when you only come to an industry with nothing but false accusations and nothing of benefit to it, what happens?You create the very animus you set out to fight, so picking the wrong target in ignorance lead to the target now becoming guarded against your retardation.Third fuckup: Attempting to create a fake inorganic, almost like a corporate formula, female hobby space out of nowhere. So you are now using deception, and corporate methodology that you are supposed to stand against hypocritically, to create something artificial to prop yourself up and give you power and money. I think Tolkien had a word or few for such dumbassery. Anyway women are mostly on mobile games, stardew, and animal farm, nowhere else. Which means if you want money elsewhere, sucks to be you, no consumers, no money.
>>737181803I find it funny how it took a couple of years before the left finally found out how to make the epstein files into a weapon to bludgeon everyone with. They didn't give a rats ass about him before
>>737181698Pretty much exactly this. Everyone in a position of authority came to bat for a literal who journo being exposed sleeping around for good reviews. It was such bizarre behavior that people started looking into it and the response from these people in authority positions was to try and silence everyone.Imo I think it was just authority positions having some mass delusion that they were far more powerful than they thought and wanted to flex that. As it began to blow up in their face they started panicking and going even harder which just streisanded the whole thing.
>>737180305It made a bunch of grifting ecelebs a lot of money.
>>737180305>exposed the industry's rotten underbelly>showcased journos' incompetence (press sided with sham and scam artist consultants who were just in it for the money and clout) to the entire world>showed that neither mainstream media nor institutions give a shit about people's best interestsit was a roaring success
>>737181801>really will collude to manipulate culture and pull sleight of hand-style tricksThe worst part isn't learning about the 'tricks,' it's seeing how fucking effective they are on the average person. The covid era was also crazy for that.
>>737181787where's the lie? "chuds" didn't exist in 2010.>well racists on Stormfront!Yeah, people thought they were assholes. They did not make up any sizable percentage of the population.
>>737181918my only solace is pretty much everybody that made "speaking for and about gamergate" their career on both sides of it don't have much of a career anymore
>>737181945chuds in 2010 were reddit atheists, fedora tippers, occupy wall street subverters, and anti-SJWs
well internet discourse is probably about as fucking cancerous as possible in every way now, so i guess it did manage to accomplish something in the end
>>737181945You're whining about "muh abuse" instead of talking about shit that's real.
>>737181842All of this is interesting because it's in service of injecting women into a "male" space, completely flattening their more traditional role in society to try and make them white collar taxpayers who consoom in excess, because someone noticed women make a lot of household purchases and went>I bet I can flip over society and gender norms and make a huge profit!Naturally whoever is behind this likely has a huge fucking nose.
>>737182008no , things started going to shit and lines being drawn AFTER Atheism+ . Gamergate was just the third male space the justice warriors invaded.
>>737182008>occupy wall street subvertersthose were sjws you stupid fucking shartytroon retard. they literally poisoned the well with their progressive stack (aka oppression olympics) and idpolkill yourself
Gamergate invented Cancel Culture.
>>737180305>what is its impactIts impact is global, gamergate was an incredibly effective radicalization tool that Steven Bannon and Roger Stone used to radicalize huge swaths of young male voters whose first election would be 2016. It also essentially wrote the playbook on stirring up outrage online and forming these amorphous "movements.">on gamingOh, on gaming? Fucking nothing. Publishers largely ignored it outside of some small marketing responses and the idea that a hobby press could ever be a fourth estate is laughable. Hobby press relies on industry they cover for the early access that makes their existence possible, they can only ever be secondary marketing and glorified blogs.
>>737182037It created a hard line in communities where entire sites/servers/platforms are either pro- or anti-GG with no middle ground. You aren't allowed to challenge the official narrative on mainstream social media, and you aren't allowed to criticize GG on alt/chud/whatever types of spaces
>>737181697Epstein spent the first 20 years of his criminal career being the guy who set rich people up with expensive international prostitutes who wouldn't snitch on the guys to their wives and ruin their reputations. He was definitely going after teenagers himself, because he's a piece of shit. But he didn't have the idea to vertically integrate minors for "development" until the early 2000's, which means he was caught almost immediately and most of those clients stopped dealing with him publicly.
I still have some pics saved from the thread when it started ramping up, comfy
>>737181563It really did permanently turn a lot of people away from wider professional journalism too. It was disgustingly blatant how they all got in unison and declared war on "gamers" on behalf of known liars and grifters. The same outcome would have happened eventually, but gamergate got the ball rolling quicker
>>737180305Tons of woke shit that ultimately destroyed the industry. You cant have a passion for gaming and then also want to highlight and promote communist teachings in a principly valueless industry. If games stop existing tomorrow, then fields will get plowed sooner. Buildings will be constructed sooner. Etc. Trying to apply communist teaching to a purely capitalist industry is hilarious. Forcing feminist ideals killed the video game industry. The developers killed off their consu,er base to appease people that were never going to buy or play games.
>>737182008none of those people are chuds, and there were no "anti-SJWs" in 2010, because we didn't know what an SJW was yet.
>>737182168>post immediately above his criticizes GG
>>737180305>Ubisoft on deaths doorstop, every other AAA studio raped>Game "journalism" dead>new massive wave of tits and ass games being madeYeah, I'm thinking we won. We did it bros
>>737181954Pretty sure they all have careers, especially on the Gamergate side.
>>737182207>It really did permanently turn a lot of people away from wider professional journalism tooThat's probably a good thing. Journalism as an industry has been corrupt by moneyed interests as early as the start of the 20th century and it only got worse once the CIA came into existence and realized journalists are whores who will construct a narrative if paid/blackmailed.
>>737182207look, if you were a kid at the time and got swept up I get it, but you're way too old now to believe that kotaku was ever anything close to professional journalism.
>>737182182>most of those clients stopped dealing with him publicly.Even after his first arrest, they did not.
>>737182216back then it was feminism that useless tools on the internet threw themselves against all day and most of the vernacular and arguments flying around were no different than anti/sjw shitflinging and modern chud shitflinging
>>737180305It would have literally been forgotten had journalists not blatantly rallied against the entire thing, all of them releasing "GAMERS ARE DEAD" articles literally all within 24 hours of each other. They Barbara Streisand'ed GG into something massive themselves.
>>737182053Declaring ordinary men your eternal enemy who must be destroyed isn't a form of abuse to you?I remember when all of the really spiteful feminist and race-baity stuff started cropping up in the early 10's. It was incredibly disconcerting. Most of us didn't really know what the fuck was happening for a while, and tried to reason with them, which failed of course.
Gaming journalism never recovered so we won
>>737180305Well all the western studios went full capitalist sold out to shareholders, these shareholders belived the woke modern audience exist and almost all of them are now broke.Almost every single video game new site is dead or dying they're all operating at maybe 1~10% of their peaks in 2010s.What are people playing these days?Old games and established franchises both indy and not, that get updates.Indy games (Slay the Spire, Arc Raiders etc..)Asian mobage games (Arknigths Endfield, Wurthering Waves, ZZZ, Genshin and Honkai, Blue Archive, Umamusume etc...)What people almost totally stooped playing and is a shadow of it's former self currently.FortniteCall of DutyFifaAny Blizzard gameSomehow there more people playing Monster Hunter World on Steam right now then there is people playing Call of Duty.
I'm convinced it's the reason Trump won in 2016.As for vidya, its message gradually spread to normalfags. Journos are corrupt fucks not to be trusted, propaganda games like Concord are flopping left and right. We lost the battle (Wikipedia article is still full of lies) but we won the war.
>>737182310Why are you lying you gaslighting cunt? We can all see through your bullshit
>>737180305Good:>journalists started to put little disclaimers on some articles from then on, saying when they're reporting on something tied to their parent company, or other conflicts of interest (they know you wont read it though)>helped underline that Google can just... "de-website" a website to anyone with an IQ above 90, which I HOPE redpilled (some) people into realizing how fucked that is>helped (some) people realize how incredibly corrupt and circlejerk-y the media can get>I got a huge laugh out of the media trying to interview the "leader" of 8, looking for some buff skinhead covered in tattoos only to get Hotwheels, a disabled weeb midget in a wheelchair, someone they can't crucify or turn into a scapegoat>directly damaged a bunch of gaming news sites that would later fall apart in varying degrees>made gamers distrust grifting gaming media that much moreBad:>boosted some grifters (on both sides) into stardom and no-joke politics. (Related: drove me nuts how often some dude would pop up out of nowhere, say he's "the leader of GG" and the media would just roll with it since now they finally have a person to point at and attack instead of a vague cloud of anons. When they'd inevitably say something stupid, we'd get blamed for it)>showed that Google is ready and willing to permanently deplatform an entire website right off the internet with very little provocation or evidence, which I doubt anyone noticed>made journalists get really annoying and smug for the rest of time>showed just how little people look into things when they're told they should hate someone (pretty relevant now, too.)>the entirely fictional take on GG got hard-locked on Wikipedia, which idiots view as a primary source for things for some reason, and still gets referred to as truth>GG's still the scapegoat sometimes to deflect blame to instead of actually taking accountability
>>737182347>profile created in: India
>>737182294I'm not talking about fucking kotaku, im talking about non gaming journalism. Newspapers and big general news sites all got behind this shit, and anybody who could do a 30 second google search could see the lies were blatant, and that the bullshit was not contained to gaming journalists
>>737182207>It was disgustingly blatant how they all got in unison and declared war on "gamers" on behalf of known liars and grifters.That didn't really happen though. The vast majority stayed the fuck out of it. It was a small handful of people, the hardcore commies, that decided to get together on social media to spread crap and write their "gamers are dead" articles.
>>737182414>gaslightinghow easily we forget this was "sjw talk" once upon a time! during the period we're discussing you'd be bitching that that word was for tumblr radfemsironically though the word of choice would still be "disingenuous" so nothing has changed there
>>737180305my main takeaway is that Zoe Quinn single handedly destroyed western civilization
>>737182207I remember like week one of this stuff happening. People on /v/ were like "well as soon as Colbert finds out about this, there will be hell to pay!".That's how much the illusion has broken down in the time since. It's fucking hilarious in retrospect.
>>737182347>Declaring ordinary men your eternal enemy who must be destroyed isn't a form of abuse to you?No, it's a declaration of war."Abuse" is what's used to describe a family member or authority figure taking advantage of a relationship based on a high degree of trust and responsibility.Anita and Zoe are not your mommies, Kotaku does not have any obligation to look out for your best interests. Calling this 'abuse' makes you sound like a spoiled brat whining because he just learned for the first time that the world isn't a safe space where his feelings will be protected.
>>737182294you're willfully missing the point.
>>737182280Rothschild owns humanity because he controlled the horse messengers and lied about France invading England so he could buy property for nothing. Before that the churches ran the scam. Media has always been used for evil.
>>737182454>Newspapers and big general news sites all got behind this shitAnon...opinion pieces and press releases from studios putting out bullshit standard "we condemn all harassment" is not the Wall Street Journal trying to slander you.I know people remember how things made them feel and not what happened but come the fuck on m8 it's been a decade.
>>737180305So many lives lost because of gamergate... not to mention the master pieces we lost because the female devs were attacked...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2klLy8r8Ro
>>737181406/threadAny "effects of Gamergate" described in this thread are not even the result of Gamergate itself, but of the game industry as a whole getting even worse than before. Majority of people got successfully gaslit, and carried on with their lives.
>>737180305Fairly negligible impact on the production side of the industry, the media/news outlet side never recovered, and being a ‘gaming journalist’ is a legitimate stain on your resume to anyone who knows (though frankly, this is also of negligible impact).If anything, its strongest impacts are that it greatly exacerbated and normalized what would become the ‘internet angry mob’ mentality that is oh so common nowadays, and shoved legitimacy onto content creators over ‘professional’ outlets.
>>737182513The funny part was Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian getting into a fight over who gamergate was about and who was the most victimized. Because of course they did because they're both women and that's what women do.
>>737182529stop playing autistic semantic games. I don't care.
>>737182439I remember someone arguing with me because my opinion on Gamergate didn't match the Wikipedia article. I told them I was on /v/ and following the threads as it was happening, even showed them images I saved with correlating metadata that you can (or could, it's too old now) spot in the archives. I was literally there posting. And yet this was not an "approved source" by simpleton who continued to insist Wikipedia had the right idea and actually being there is ultimately an inferior source of information than some locked article with the skeletons of some other, different war going on in the Talk page. It felt like being a Civil War veteran being told by some younger "scholar" that I was actually fighting for slavery and we actually used laser rifles.
>>737182480I thought i'd make it easier for you to understand but of course you don't. Your time will come faggot
Feminists and troons are the Jeets of gaming space.They appeared, stunk up the entire space, called shitting in the streets empowerment because hygiene is apparently far right nazi concept, and went on a carousel of defrauding everything and stealing money while nepotising incompetent people into positions via management, all to satisfy personal narcissism and ego AKA Izzat.You can find many parallels between Jeet culture and Feminism; the only thing they lack is the same rape mentality because Jeets rape women, while Feminists rape your mind, though male feminists make up for the Jeet rape culture and Lesbians make up for the domestic abuse stats of Jeets I guess.
To this day I don't know if Anita really slept with those dudes. Sounds like a spurned ex to me.
>>737181697Totally.
>>737181406>>737182593How can we be twelve years out and people still don't get it.Nobody in the wider world gives two soggy shits if some cunt gave blowjobs for a good review or early access. The concept of "integrity" in "gaming journalism" is a joke, that's not how magazines reporting on consumer content work.What people in the wider world DO care about is someone getting buried in very public memes and death threats.Do you really not understand why that part of the story is what got run?
>>737182635You cared enough to respond, ESL.
>>737182631>because WOMEN, (jerry seinfeld mouth agawk)shotgun blasting my own foot
>>737182117Atheism+ was literally the first conquest and first battle. They won almost all battles after that with their tactics but in the end they lost the war. Now they're just silent and waiting. Look at he new He-Man movie the director is talking about Toxic Masculinity of Skeletor and the Tela actress is talking about Toxic masculinity of her in universe father.You know Men at Arms whos the most obsencley fatherly figure in He-Mans cartoons constantly worrying over both Teela and Adam. While Teela goes and does stupid shit he warned her against.
>>737182719Conveniently it's very easy to post death threats to yourself on an anonymous website or throwaway emails, which is exactly what Anita and Brianna Whom did.
>>737182795>bro ALL of the threads were false flags it's a conspiracy
>>737181214Eh. Morgan Webb was jaw-shamed relentlessly, and it only sort of stopped when it came out that she was the actual OG gamer and Sess was the poser.
>>737182787>feminists trying to fuck up a franchise aimed at gay men who statistically have the happiest marriages because there's no women in themAlways makes me laugh.This will backfire spectacularly.
>>737182560my own personal favorite parts are >people digging up the gamesjournospro mailing list as evidence of deep and systemic corruption and not pretty normal journalistic practices, seedy or not>some /pol/ posters really horny to link gamergate to DARPA studies about using video games as propaganda, ignoring both that DARPA studies basically anything and everything and that call of duty has existed for longer than most of them were alive. the existence of those studies was enough to convince them there was a deeper conspiracy behind it
>>737182787Wtf even happened with Athiesm+ again? I just remember it fell over and died because athiesm vs thiesm shit was overdone and the hot new shit was identity politics.
>>737182593Yes, but GG was pretty much a last ditch effort by "the gamers" to change the trajectory of the industry.We were like "look, we can see everything is getting really shitty, and we're the ones who buy the games, so we'd like you to stop making the games shitty", and then they decided the entire internet needed to be censored instead.The end end result of all of this is Ubisoft or Sony makes a terrible game aimed at no one, and no one buys it. Can't say we didn't try to warn them.
>>737182795Funny how they all get these death threats but nobody reports them to the police and let's them investigate who send them via subpoenas.It's almost as if...
>>737182560>.opinion pieces and press releases from studios putting out bullshit standard "we condemn all harassment" is not the Wall Street Journal trying to slander you.Thats not the problem. The non gaming media outlets just copy pasted their shit from the crappy game journos stories. Either didn't fact check or didn't care and just hopped on the train.People didn't take kotaku seriously back then either, but watching the wall street journal steal their homework from them really brought their integrity into question.It wasn't a big switch that flipped straight away, it was a contributing factor.As i said earlier, mainstream media would still be in harsh decline today without gamergate, gamergate just happened to be one of the first big stones dropped in the internet era regarding journalistic trust
>>737181476I miss IH like you wouldn't belive
>>737182795I don't believe Brianna whatever ever received a single death threat simply because nobody had any idea they even existed.But I do believe people like Anita probably did receive death threats. Not credible ones but who cares about whether it's credible or not when you're the press trying to spin a story?Kind of like when that girl who sucked someone's cock to claim to be a writer of God of War claiming she got "rape threats". Sher really dud but it turned out the rape threats were from like a couple of 11 year old retards who were definitely not going to rape her.
>>737180305It showed us that mainstream media hated humanity, and especially anyone who refused to bend the knee before communism.It also irrepairably destroyed the reputation of a lot of idiots, and Wikipedia.
>>737182913Remember when one claimed she filed a police report but the police had no such report when asked by journos?
As a zoomer the more I read about GamerGate the more it seems retartedthe real relevancy is possibly to be the first manifestation of the 2016-2024 online American political discourse, anything more seems to be the ramblings of the Chud-Weeb-Edgy-and-Offensive amalgam. Nothing changing and ""woke"" things fail or have success regardless of their wokeness.
>>737182913Yeah well, they tried but the millions of reports ended up with 2 people and it was like there was nothing therehttps://www.businessinsider.com/gamergate-fbi-file-2017-2
made up gaslite narrative for people to never shut the fuck up about over nothing except women being given ammo to come up with even more ridiculous bullshit the world has to occassionally review every year because of retards who post twatter screenshots and call it a thread inviting discussion over the most inane nonsense
>>737182913The FBI investigated brianna wu and found out he was sending death threats to himself
>>737182719>Do you really not understand why that part of the story is what got run?It literally doesn't matter. As far as a vast majority of people are concerned, Gamergate was a harassment campaign, and that's it. As far as a vast majority of people are concerned, Gamergate has accomplished nothing besides making everyone else angry about video game nerds.>>737182871>The end end result of all of this is...literally nothing. If you think Ubisoft being on a verge of bankruptcy and people not being interested in movie games is a result of Gamergate and not 10+ years of bad business decisions, you are fucking delusional.
>>737182969>and WikipediaTheir reputation was already shot. The site was already well known to be very heavily slanted to the left. That's why conservapedia was founded 10 years before gamergate was a thing.
I was 14 when gamergate happened and I did a really shitty edit of Andrew Dobson's twitter icon of his bear persona covered in shit with knuckle tattoos that said "poo" and "ass" and he was wearing the gamergate logo. He blocked me like 30 seconds after I sent it too.
>>737182639Her game was completely attacked because it didn't focus on violence and skill, chud!
8kun thread
>>737182868pro-science doesn't vibe well with identity politics and "gender is a spectrum" bs.
>>737182868It was SJWs deciding that Atheism was supposed to be about social issues, rather than being an atheist.It failed to gain ground, and I think if anything drove people away from the online atheism scene.
>>737181698>>737182207You say this, but I've yet to find anyone who was convinced by GG to question the veracity of their local/broadcast news content vis a vis "crime waves" and cops and whatnot.
Let's go.
>>737182676Most likely she did, that's why she threw a pity party self-marrying at the age of 40
>>737182871>Yes, but GG was pretty much a last ditch effort by "the gamers" to change the trajectory of the industry.You're delusional.It was a bunch of teens chimping out because they didn't understand what a hobby press is and does getting whipped into a frenzy by literal agent provocateurs and then having their misdirected rage funneled into alt-right radicalization.>>737183057>As far as a vast majority of people are concerned, Gamergate was a harassment campaign, and that's itBecause that's what it was, anon. A bunch of retards gone mad over a woman for sucking dick for a score that no one gives a shit about and a woman making shitty youtube essays.If you ever for a moment bought the pretense of "integrity in gaming journalism" you're a stooge.
>>737183090>It was SJWs deciding that Atheism was supposed to be about social issuesNow where have I heard this one before?
>>737183087No one tell him about ape-brain tribalism and homo homo being hard-coded.
>>737182868The Atheism guys were basically the reaction to the 80-90-00 Evangelicans in the US that were there for the Stanic Panic. Anything that was fantasy or sci fi was satanic.Harry Potter = Satanic MagicStar Trek = Aliens and Satanic 666 TechnologyDnD = Secret basment societies worshiping the devil Metal Music = Devil Hyms You get the idea, there was a massive revolt against the retards in the form of the Atheist movement who falsely at the time attributed the insanity of the mentally ill women as "religion". Then a new breed of mentally ill women emerged that hijacked these guys and demanded that not only should the movent strive for equality, no bullshit and freedom of ideas, but it should promote feminism and strike back at religion that was a patriarchal concept. So they managed to convince the poor DnD nerds that yes it actually patraichy + religion thats at fault. They did this the most natural way. By exploiting their sexuality. Of you side with me and there maybe a chance for you with me.Today we know that both the satanic panic and the whole woke shit is caused by mentally ill childless women code name "Karen" that have channeled their biological imperatives of child protection into an abomination of playing the victim while calming superiority over all. Today you see them screaming at Trump.
>>737182931Internet Historian?
>Oct 2017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN1P6UA7pvM
>>737183057No, it's the result of them not listening to Gamergate.Gamergate was a movement of people who wanted desperately to continue being consumer piggies, but had issues with the direction the product was going in. They wanted fun video games, and "no politics". They were pretty open about this.
>>737182868a dude shoved a banana up his ass
Basically ground-zero for a lot of contemporary social/political discourse.I'm serious. In a nutshell: a naive, mostly male demographic wondered what the fuck mainstream gaming outlets were doing colluding on stories and narratives behind the scenes (see: gamejournopros). This concern was written off by the media as a flimsy pretext concealing more sinister, hateful motives - the structural critique was turned against the people making it, whose curiosity and conduct, no matter how well-meaning or benign, became a symptom of various "isms" which demanded moral condemnation. The media's response in the face of the critiques levied at them was pounced upon by right-leaning figures who are still dining off the cultural purchase it generated for them ten years later. This lead to ten years (ongoing) of culture war slop, more or less. Both sides were massively retarded, and still are massively retarded. Fundamentally I think the thing that gamergate illustrated was, plain and simply, that leftists have no idea how to address or endear themselves to men, or most "normal" people in general. You saw it with gamergate initially, before that wave of alienated, apathetic men became social and political capital chewed up and shat out by the Trump administration, the "manosphere" (Tate etc.), and various other movements.
>>737180305at the time this was happening I was honestly baffled by how the media being corrupt was being treated as newly discovered information. like why did people choose that particular moment to get pissed about it and not in the past decades? I thought 4chan was always aware of this yet they were suddenly mobilizing because of an incident that was just a drop in the bucket of what had been going on for decades.
>>737182474Not that anon, but fuck no, you had shit like Forbes and Newsweek and shit jump in and dogpile GG for being racist, women-hating GAMERS that are 100% white and 100% men (no, don't look at #NotYourShield, that's just propaganda made up!!!)NYS still drives me batty and reminds me of just how actually no-joke racist the left is whenever they drop their masks, like, you had men and women of all colors saying "we're here, we want ethics in journalism too!" and the "good guys" didn't care because it didn't fit the story they were trying to tell.And it worked. People still refuse to acknowledge how diverse GG was, just completely gaslit into oblivion.@737183149Five Guys Burgers and Fries was only really a "thing" for like a week at best, she was the one that kickstarted the "wait, isn't this kinda bullshit? How many other companies are doing this?" thing and getting the ball rolling.>>737182639Sucks. What's worse is trying to correct people on normie social media because they don't even want a debate, they'll just block and post "day ruined, some racist mouthed off at me spitting lies, man what a creep" or some other shit like that.
>>737183201Yes, his videos were great
>>737183168
>>737182913they count honest to god advice like "kill yourself" as death threats.
>>737183120And how often do you ask people you meet this question? How often are you talking about GG in real life?How ideas spread through culture is complex, and it isn't as simple as>Gamergame happens>I'll never trust a journo again! Those liars!It planted a seed in many peoples minds that helped them gradually notice more and more journo bullshit even outside gaming. Many other people likely got that seed from other scandals in the past, but pre internet those scandals were much easier to keep contained
>>737183008In retrospect, we were all incredibly naive, and still had a level of faith in the system that we shouldn't have had. Yes, to you it probably seems obvious you should never trust a journalist, but people didn't think that in 2010.
>>737180305weaponised dogshit
>>737183052No wonder 40% of trannies ack themselves
>>737183147I have seen Anita's side profile, I dont believe even the most desperate leftwinger would fuck that
>>737183226Chelsea Van Valkenburg over there has such a disgusting blackhead it looks like a third eye
>>737181842Anita... my teen crush.
>>737180305The original Internet echochamber. People involved in gamergate think it was responsible for everything that ever happened since. People not involved don’t even know it existed. Doesn’t help that terminally online wikipedia editors all were participants so they put it in as many articles as possible
>>737183261big difference between the usual journos being paid for good reviews of shitty games and the obvious collusion to push certain activist narratives in the medium and completely reshape it from the ground up.
I still don't get why people cared so much about the sanctity of video games journalism. It was well established in the 00s that gaming journos were hacks and weren't worth listening to. They were in the 10s, and they have been in the 20s. Last time I read a Slowtaku article was maybe 18 years ago.To this day, I still don't know what it was about because I still don't care about video games journalism, other than a few women who tried to preach about misojenny.
>>737183160Like I said that was their first battle and testing grounds. They just repeated this ad nauseam.They then conquered just about every university, media outlet and culture related company in the western world within the span of 20 years. And not just English Speaking most Western Democracies were totally unprepared and got fucked pants down. Look at all the immigrants EU let in because of these ideas of we're rich and we stole once so it's out duty to give back.
>>737182868Identity politics infected it and killed it. The downfall started when some guy had the gall to ask a woman out for a cup of coffee and he wasn't 6ft and rich and handsome so it was literally rape for him to ask such a thing. After that minor event stirred major controversy the original atheists decided they wanted nothing to do with the loons that have entered the movement and left and the movement got usurped into being primarily about "social justice".
>>737183334Look at what they are doing to women in modern vidya and think again.
If Gamergate was about "Ethics in gaming journalism", why would 4chan give a fuck? 4chan doesnt care about gaming journalism (and doesnt even play games).Plus you can't even say that they were that wrong in calling gamergators -isms and -phobics, at least nowadays.
>>737180305It was a successful astroturf by Rove/Epstein et al. to disable and commodify the nascent anti-conservative/politics agnostic movement among tech-focused Millennials and older Zoomers, for their own purposes. They'd been gunning for it ever since OWS, and some extremely stupid Kotaku writers finally gave them an in to export the culture war to a subculture that previously could not have given less of a shit.
>>737183458guy who exclusively plays AAA sony games
>>737183248Here, anon, let me help you.In a nutshell: a naive, mostly male demographic didn't understand that gaming outlets rely entirely on sucking publisher dick and link-sharing to exist, believing instead that they were some bastion of intellectual honesty.This led very quickly to a manufactured hate and harassment campaign which is what got the attention of larger outlets - the "structural critique" being rightfully written off as fucking ridiculous, because no rational person would give a shit about video game reviewers colluding with publishers, it's literally the expected state of affairs.The media's response was something Steve Bannon counted on and was quickly mischaracterized to the mob as an attack on their integrity and an ideological schism, pushing the dumbest amongst us to feel like people saying "maybe sending death threats over this is bad" are their sworn enemy.
>>737183248>Fundamentally I think the thing that gamergate illustrated was, plain and simply, that leftists have no idea how to address or endear themselves to men, or most "normal" people in general. You saw it with gamergate initially, before that wave of alienated, apathetic men became social and political capital chewed up and shat out by the Trump administration, the "manosphere" (Tate etc.), and various other movements.I believe once you go over the makeup of both sides you will understand why this happens. A lot of the far-left cyberfaggot spectrum are unironic nepo kids. Something about coming from a rich family and never having to actually worry about money turns you into a moron.
So many great moments....
>>737183495>projection
>>737183304What I'm saying is that they only noticed the inconsistencies and falsehoods that were consistent with their preexisting prejudice. In other words, it didn't really change minds at all.
>>737183475when people used words like nigger on 4chan in the past it was done as a joke. when it became clear that just being a white straight male was something they felt comfortable to openly attack, that's when the resentment started to truly form and people started investigating things they weren't supposed to investigate. it was a self fulfilling prophecy.
>>737183475newfag
>>737183591>complains about shit that happens mostly in AAA sony games>calls it projection when it's sniffed out
>>737183193The Satanic Panic was a post-hoc term for a movement that had multiple criticisms of D&D. The main critiques of D&D were that it was sexist and culturally insensitive, not that it was promoting Satanism - this was a misinterpretation from a media frenzy that came after that kid went missing in his college basement. The same people that call the movement "The Satanic Panic" and decry it as a movement of fundies would have actually supported it at the time because it was aligned almost entirely with their current criticisms of D&D. In fact the disclaimer at the start of the WotC prints of 1e D&D were the exact thing the "Satanic Panicikers" were in favor of.
>>737183568I still put foids into place by randomly going up to them and shouting GO HOME GAMER GURL
>>737182439>>grifterpost discarded
>>737183271Dunno what that has to do with Gamergate though.
>>737183623Meds, holy shit. Fucking autists on this site never cease to amaze me with their idiocy.
>>737181563It's gotta start somewhere, and when you have more general news sites like The Guardian defending the corruption, the implications spread. Now it's come out that a lot of 'liberal' news organizations (MSNOW, for example) are actually just strawmen who only exist to get clowned on.
>>737182082>Naturally whoever is behind this likely has a huge fucking nose.Come on man, don't say that
>>737183475epic 4channer post!
>>737183416big difference being the collusion to push activist narratives comes from the international right wing pretending that gaming is antiwhite
Also funny how the playbook is still the same "GG was harassing women, it didn't do anything". Nigger is standing in the middle of the cultural crater caused by GG while saying this unironically
>>737183493meds
>>737183606>when it became clear that just being a white straight male was something they felt comfortable to openly attacksomething still radically shifted in 4chan for this to even be taken seriously or come across as an insult at all, before this 4chan was capable of and did, more often than not, make fun of itself and depict itself as a disgusting neckbeard or a pasty vampiric basement dwellerwhy would it matter that some woman i've never met hates me? i am not leaving my basement. simple as. so something changed on 4chan's end at large to even care about dumb namecalling like this
>>737183568The best part was all the non-L&O fans finding out the creator of the show is named Dick Wolf like the dickwolves from Penny Arcade
>>737180305Grift central
>>737183497>..."OKAY WE'RE CORRUPT BUT PEOPLE EXPECT US TO BE ANYWAY SO IF YOU CARE YOU'RE RETARDED DEAL WITH IT CHUD" I dunno anon, I could see how that messaging would agitate and alienate the demographic theses "progressives" were trying to reach and reform with their editorial content in the first place. I'm not even disagreeing that harassment occurred. As I said, both sides were and still are massively retarded.
>>737183261Because it wasn't just have money, peope weren't revolign because it EA went to Kotaku gave them a million dollars are said make our game 9/10There was very weird very obvious transformations.Suddenly everyone had the same taking points.Suddenly everyone dogpiled on the same games.It was a very visible coordinated effort to attack certain games that were attractive to most average male games and promote utter dogshit games nobody plays or has even ever heard of them.Kotaku for years attacked Kamiya for Bayoneta for example.
>>737183431>Like I said that was their first battle and testing grounds. They just repeated this ad nauseam.Of course, there is also a conspiracy theory that they were originally just plants whose primary goal was disabling Occupy Wall Street, only to then spiral out of control and infect everything else as well. Whether this spiraling out of control was intentional of not, with aim of pre-emptively silencing anti-capital rheotic elsewhere is, up to debate.
>>737183497>a naive, mostly male demographic didn't understand that gaming outlets rely entirely on sucking publisher dickNo, we did understand that. And we wanted them to stop doing it. And we thought we had a smoking gun that we could use to shame them to be honest, as soon as the "real journalists" found out.Instead the "real journalists" fucking defended them.
>>737183497>This led very quickly to a manufactured hate and harassment campaignChelsea Valkenburg is still and ugly whore who fucked redditor nerds for clout. Don't know why you simps love that cunt so much.
>>737183718we didn't care as long as it didn't effect our escapism and hobbies. they refused to let it be and began to not only infect but stage a hostile takeover of said hobbies. why do you think everything sucks now?
>>737183704It's a feedback loop. The extreme left is trying to make gaming anti-white, and failing. The extreme right is pretending they've succeeded. No, playing as a black person is not anti-white.
>>737183625>The Satanic Panic was a post-hoc term for a movement that had multiple criticisms of D&D.Anon...The Satanic Panic is the term for the fearmongering around "satanic ritual" that was a huge part of the media landscape at the time.Calling D&D Satanic was just one very small part of the larger cultural event. The panic over DnD was largely about witchcraft (druids!) and suicide.What the fuck are you talking about?
>>737183718It becoming totally systemic and supported by every single corporation and institution in the Western world made it harder to ignore, come on.
>>737180305it was a simple escalation of 4chan v tumblr to see if normalfags would bite leading to 2016-present and foreseeable future.And I warned you niggers.
>>737183790>The extreme left is trying to make gaming anti-whiteit's not, but you would have to be a fucking retard to believe this so i won't get anywhere with you
>>737182560>is not the Wall Street Journal trying to slander you.except they were siding with the sjw scam artists and condemning "gamers"making a blanket statement without even reviewing the facts is a massive breach of professional ethics at best, and damning proof of collusion at worstthese people are all top journalists, they have absolutely no plausible deniability. it was all intentionalthe fact that some of those sjw cunts continued to spout bald-faced lies all the way to the UN proves that a massive amount of palm-greasing was going on behind the scenes
>he thinks gamergate "won"your enemies are numerous and eternal and among them is history itself
>>737183789gaming journalism and no-name indie text adventures don't affect me either. i was already ignoring kotaku clickbait even at the time, thank you very much>>737183807>the downfall of western civilizationdoesn't matter, i am in my basement. this doesn't matter to me. i have not washed in seven days and what a huge corporation is doing cannot impact me on any level whatsoever. i have chosen to get offended by this if i am offended by it
>>737183795>Calling D&D Satanic was just one very small part of the larger cultural event.Which was overblown and largely didn't exist. It was just holding the microphone to the most retarded people while in the background things were censored to be less sexist and more politically correct.
>>737183718Same reason you will scold your kids but some cunt scolding your kid is not acceptable
>>737183752>THEY'RE CORRUPTAnon, that's literally part of the job description.And not in a cynical "oh all politicians are corrupt" way, in a "there's literally no other way for this media to exist" way.It beggars belief that you STILL haven't cottoned on to the semantic game being played here. It's simple reductionism.Basic quid-pro-quo that is the entirety of how hobby press functions gets reduced and characterized as "a lack of integrity in the press." Oh no! A lack of integrity in the press!? But that's the fourth estate! Them being honest and unbiased is how we know who to vote for and what's going on in the world! This is important!Except no, it's not. You've been tricked into thinking about all that completely separate shit instead of the girl giving a blowjob for an 8/10 game review on a site nobody reads.
>>737183625No. The Satanic Panic was literally about widespread paranoia about literal satanism being a thing. It was leveled against things that had absolutely nothing to do with D&D or heavy metal or any of what you would consider to be the traditional targets. Remember that conspiracy not so long ago about a pizza parlor being a front for child sex trafficking and how child sex trafficking is everywhere and the elites are all involved and cover it up and all that crap? Add "and they do it because they are satanists" to that and you have the Satanic Panic.
>>737183771>Ligue du LOLfrogs, explain yourselves
>>737183885>Skillfully dodged all the games with shoehorned propaganda and butchered translationsSure bro, nothing affect you :)
>>737183606>when it became clear that just being a white straight male was something they felt comfortable to openly attackNo, because that had actually started happening years before, when Trayvon Martin was murdered. White dudes didn't need to be personally aggrieved to turn into racist assholes, they just had to see a case where the presumed racial hierarchy was threatened (e.g., "Should this white person who shot a black person go to jail?" and protests turning that temporarily from a solid "No" to a "Maybe" until the pay-to-play legal system did what it do).
>>737183885you are just being disingenuous now. the garbage has infected almost every major release in modern day. even games like elden ring now have "body type a and b" bullshit. you can not ignore it because it is now EVERYWHERE, in EVERY MEDIUM without exception.
>>737183764>And we wanted them to stop doing itYou know you should probably read the whole post before responding.There is no them not sucking dick unless they don't exist.Them existing is contingent on access they can only get by sucking dick.This is why you are STILL naive.
It wasnt JUST the Zoe Quinn event anyways.This shit has been bubbling up.Journoloids colluding to blame gamers who spoke out against the dogshit Masseffect 3 ending which is something I have literally never seen before.Shit like the whole Phil Fish meltdown.Anita before that.It just became super obvious that certain bad actors were trying to take over and fundamentally change the gaming scene.Most of them were in a clique too and there were most definitely government ties given that Zoe Quinn and Anita got to spoke in front of the UN. Another absolutely unheard of fake and gay thing.>>737183497kys
>>737183421The whole thing was really rooted in a delusion that the minority who cared about video games as a medium, who cared about not having it turned into mtx-driven feminist slop, were capable of making a genuine difference. By that point it was far too late, there was no gatekeeping and the industry was completely taken over by normoids.People say that GG woke them up to toxic feminism and the woke agenda, but I think the real reason it was meaningful is that it woke people up to the reality that "vote with your wallet" is a complete meme when corpos can control the demographics of the people who vote with their wallets. It made people realize that gatekeeping is necessary if we're to maintain anything good in this world.
immediately shown how corrupt the games journalists pros group was and how much a cabal of rich old white men they were hopefully jeff gerstmann can die soon and faggots like the retard who attacked peter molyneux can die of a heart attack sooner rather than laterzoe quinn is also a whore and will always be a whore with her nudes on the front page of google until the day she dies. dumb little whore
>>737183969>games with shoehorned propagandacall of duty?>butchered translationsnot even SLIGHTLY relevant to what we're talking about>>737183980"body type" is the most pedantic fucking bullshit to get upset about
>>737183884ANOTHER thing we all forgot from that era: Anita herself was almost out of the public eye. She did all her shit in 2012-2013. Her "fifteen minutes of fame" were just about over before GG suddenly brought her back into popularity.
>>737183976HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>737183884Stuff like this is why I dont trust any historical account that doesnt come from a rigorously researching history autist.
>>737183790>The extreme left is trying to make gaming anti-whiteNo.
>>737183958literal satanism is a thing though.
Strictly speaking it succeeded nobody gives a shit about game journalism anymore. Really the only issue is now they started directly attacking gamer spaces paying for goons to run psyops where people discuss shit rather than relying on laundering credibility through game journos.Which is a problem but you can't really put that at the fault of the people who supported what it was about.Like >>737183248 this mongoloid who's using it as the means of whining factionally because he's too retarded to actually know anything about the people he's whining about.
>>737183926>Which was overblown and largely didn't existIn the sense that people weren't actually going out and sacrificing children under the blood moon, not in that there wasn't a massive cultural panic nearly on the scale of mccarthyismI can tell you're underage.
>>737183976>wypipo just le heckin bad and done a racism
>>737183958>The Satanic Panic was literally about widespread paranoia about literal satanism being a thing.Yeah this is the post-hoc story that is told. In reality D&D was mostly censored though removing stereotypes of exotic cultures and artists being forced to draw pants on the women in bikini armor for 2e.
>>737183704your lies wont work anymore. you lost.
>>737184028Sticking out like a sore thumb
>>737183991I'm absolutely convinced that if ME3 had a better ending GG wouldn't have happened and we'd be on a completely different timeline.
>>737182439Let me ftfyGood:>all the vivian x white korra ocBad:>literally everything you typed
>>737183718I was there when all of this was happening. You don't get it. In the Satanic Panic in the 90s and 00s when I Was there it was people who had very limited very external power complaning about the issues. Gradma Karen would go on TV and complain how GTA evil and how NFS leads to road deaths and how that stupid Metal and Rock music is making her children dress up all weird. She had no influence of the Music Artist, The Game maker, the DnD ruleset, The movie, The anime. Then suddenly came these nuKarens and they literally inserted themselves into HR positions, became university professors and advisors to top CEOs. They actively removed all sexaulity from Women in Western game and some eastern ones.They ignored all the rap music that was about drugs, rape, bitches, prostitution but destroyed everyone else. They went to the movie exces and demanded marry sue leads.They changed everything we consume LITERALLY DOWN TO THE DND RULESET.
>>737184056most satanist groups are fronts for neo-nazi chapters because potential applicants would steer clear of them otherwise, forced to lure them in with teenage edgelord promises of devil worship and the pursuit of true power
>>737183261The media response was what changed . Before, they were simply labeled as "isolated" incidents (the dude fired for the Kane & Lynch review or the drama around zelda 8.8 score). Now, they had the opportunity to defend their business by using women as a shield, and the women saw that it also helped them gain relevance.
>>737184028yeah you're just a retard or baiting at this point. you have no responses left and are just handwaving things, I accept your concession
>>737183754Every gay guy I know nuts to this pic and thanks Kamitani for his services.
>>737184076>I can tell you're underage.You were 14 at the time and watched the news.
>>737183991>Journoloids colluding to blame gamers who spoke out against the dogshit Masseffect 3 ending which is something I have literally never seen before.That wasn't a thing. That was one guy at IGN who did a vlog claiming gamers were acting "entitled" to be upset over the ending of Mass Effect 3.Fun fact: That guy went on to be against the lefty journos colluding to smear gamers as part of gamergate and left IGN. He's a right winger and doesn't care for all the lefty crap. Last I heard he started a podcast with some other people who kicked him out for being too right wing.
>>737184086Anon why are you focusing so hard on DnDThe satanic panic was not about DnDWhat is wrong with you? Who are you? Where are you really from?
>>737183976nta , but why are you angry about it? Why does it matter to the whole narrative if people were naive back then?
>>737184118yeah most people do handwave body-type complaints
>>737183718>why would it matter that some woman i've never met hates me?because it leaks into media, education, employment and politics.
>>737180305its like grand strategy, even if things got worse temporarily, ultimately it caused them to overreach to such degree that leftoid stranglehold was disclosed to public and wokeslop lost its "popularity"
>>737184090steve bannon is just a smol lil bean fighting dei goliath with one dollar in his pocket
>>737184191>schizo ramblingsyou lost
>>737184143>Anon why are you focusing so hard on DnD>>737183193>DnD = Secret basment societies worshiping the devil
>>737183475Those who are new wont know that /v/ had several specific axes to grind against games journalism, but what got people really worked up was the Devil May Cry reboot, and the way journalists all seemed to once again be on the same page in sucking off the terrible looking game, and throwing shit in the face of fans who complained.and before that, there was Mass Effect 3, and before that there was Kane and Lynch, and so forth.
>>737184180>because it leaks into media, education, employment and politicswe seem to be forgetting i am a basement dweller and this doesn't matter
EAbros... our response?
>>737184084At least the HAHAHAHAHA guy didn't positively confirm that he's an idiot. Troll more intelligently.
>>737184109>ESL tries to tell me in broken english what life was like for me in America in the 90sI prefer bot posts
>>737184225will matter when there are more nogs than people around you and social systems start collapsing.
>>737184249>will matter when (SOMETHING GOING ON OUTSIDE)basement dweller, remember
>>737184109Gaiafags were based?
>>737182381something like this
>>737183989>never demand truth and honesty out of anyone. *you* should know betterThat's the response of a broken man.
>>737183261I mean we all knew it was corrupt, it's just that now there's a tangible, specific situation where you can clearly see shit like giving high scores to games that are actively in the banner ads (thus getting paid by the dev and incentivizing being nice or they'll pull their ads), journalists reviewing things they have direct ties to, or vidya reviewers getting early access and swag to games they're supposed to be scoring soon.It probably would've been pretty quiet of a "movement" until suddenly just about every news media company on the planet, big or small, started diarrhea-blasting "gamers are dead, GG is sexist, do 'gamers' even need to exist?" articles left and right simultaneously, which only escalated things.>>737183625NTA, but unless I'm misreading something, the Satanic Panic was real, my aunt was (still kinda is) one of those "[x] is actually messaging from Satan, Harry Potter curses you with Wiccan spells, the Nephilim are here corrupting us to sin" people. The Satanic Panic was about a lot of fuckin' things, not just D&D.I don't think my aunt even knows what D&D is.Doubly funny is that she's not a "bible thumper" either, she's one of those "as long as I keep Jesus in my heart, I'm with Him and will go to Heaven, I disagree with too much stuff in the Bible so I'm just gonna pick and choose certain verses and ignore the rest... also fuck it, we're going out and I'm going to get so ass-blastedly drunk that I'm literally going to dance ON the table at the bar and gaslight you when you bring it up later because you're making things up, stop lying" people.>>737183672GrifterS, with an S. You had all kinds of people hopping in on the bandwagon just to eke out some fame, claim they're a/the leader of GG, then get fuckloads of ad revenue and attention for nothing.Some were more honest than others, but most were just in it for a quick buck or to push some unrelated thing.
>>737183875Yes they are. They've said they are. The Gamers Are Dead media blitz specifically called on game developers to reject white men as an audience. You clearly are not familiar with the "extreme" left. They're called extreme for a reason, they are not reasonable people. Some of the journos involved literally called for the genocide of the entire male sex and procreation exclusively through cloning without even a hint of irony.>>737183884It did win. The narrative doesn't matter when it got the government to respond and journalists to change their behavior. The results are still there even if they aren't properly attributed.
>>737184218yes, that is one of the four examples given of the satanic panic, the larger public eventhablo espanol?Fala português?क्या आप हिंदी बोलते हैं?
>>737184289always were, why else would olden /b/ try so hard to shit on them
I was 19 when gamergate happened. I will never be as happy as I was back then nor have as many friends as I did back then. I was ignorant and naive yet I was objectively happier.
>>737184136load of shit.
>>737184302Your aunt not had and has never had any political power or any power to induce change.The people who were actually believing "[x] is actually messaging from Satan, Harry Potter curses you with Wiccan spells, the Nephilim are here corrupting us to sin" were media sideshows that they would interview on a slow news day who had no real power and existed to be living strawmen.
>>737184301>It's about TRUTH and HONESTYMore bullshit reductionsee >>737183938Basic quid-pro-quo that is the entirety of how hobby press functions gets reduced and characterized as "a lack of integrity in the press." Oh no! A lack of integrity in the press!? But that's the fourth estate! Them being honest and unbiased is how we know who to vote for and what's going on in the world! This is important!Except no, it's not. You've been tricked into thinking about all that completely separate shit instead of the girl giving a blowjob for an 8/10 game review on a site nobody reads.
>>737184230>d-did he just say nigger? this must be some kind of trollno you are genuinely just a stupid nigger and need to fuck off of the site
>>737184240>ESLYou lost man. The post you are quoting is in almost perfect English and is properly punctuated.
>>737184220>and before that there was Kane and LynchWhich at the end turned out was not really anything to do with corrupt gaming press and more just about a company wanting to find cause to fire a guy they really didn't want to keep around. And that guy went on to side with the journos for gamergate and was close personal friends with most of the people involved including Zoe Quinn who they would have around and shill all the time.
>>737183625See you're just focusing on 2 events. The Sanatic panic included everything from Doom to Emo Kids cutting themselves with razors in the early 00s. It was old Karens raging agaist the new cultural landscape that they didn't understand or recognize. Can you imagine what a shock it was for the Karens when Visual Key Emo/Goth Girls became popular, based of Glam Metal, Shock Rock and Hard rock suddenly entered the scene in such a big way in the late 90s early 00sThey were scared shitless it's Satan. And not just in the US.I watched German TV during that time and peopel were scared of fucking karens of Germany where scared of Tokyo Hotel.
>>737184367I admit I am a newfag and was always under the impression that gaiafags were the narutotards.
>>737180305Everyone lost.Only the shameless grifters won.
>>737184448>The post you are quoting is in almost perfect English
>>737184278Basement dwellers too get sick and need to eat. You are not an island, no man is.
>>737184110LOL
zoe quinn became too toxic to hirethink of all the dicks that have gone unsucked by her as a result, it's a real shakespearean tragedy
>>737183938I'm speaking to the specific set of motives espoused by a group of people in the midst of a social controversy, a group which went on to be captured by reactionary outlets and right-leaning institutions which prefigured the culture wars of the current day. Do you concede that a significant number of people engaged with gamergate at the time believed that journalistic outlets were colluding and coordinating behind the scenes in ways which insulated them from blowback for their various controversies, yes or no? Whether or not you can do journalism without quid-pro-quos is irrelevant.
>>737180305i've unironically heard "people" call gamergate an israeli trumstien pysop because THERE'S NO WAY people could organically get made at culture war bs since "games were always woke chuddy" (these are the same people who spent a decade complaining about how problematic most games were)
>>737184468For Reference this was Tokyo Hotel. Each one of these fags basically manufactured to represent a subculture of the time. The Normie, The Rapper, The Visual Key(Emo/Goth) Faggot, The Metal Head.You walked into my Anime club in 2005 and everyone looked exactly like one of these 4 dudes I swear.
>>737184483It was far better articulated and punctuated than any post you've made in your life I'd wager.
>>737184468>I watched German TV during that timeTo answer OP's question, no, Gamergate had no effect. People still blindly trust the media.
>>737184476it was sort of a mix of>both sides were obnoxious faggots>the conflict in general was incredibly forced>gaia only really knew 4chan existed and was pestering them because the internet was smaller>/b/ shit its pants whenever gaia hit back for any reasonone of /v/'s worst inheritances from /b/ was the need for an ontological opposite to scream and shit and false-flag at, hence the reddit obsession that persists to this day
>>737180305You have to judge its impact in relation to the academic feminist and progressive culture war that was launched in the years prior to Gamergate. The goals of said culture war were to pave the way for a broad, modern, and most importantly, female audience that would bring unprecedented creative and financial success. A revitalized western entertainment industry basically. And so now more than a decade later you have to ask yourself the question: are we seeing that reality? Are the updated and reimagined versions of decades old beloved franchises from Star Wars to Halo more popular than ever? Have the feminist culture war agressors successfully won hearts and minds? Whose voices shape and steer the conversation today?
>>737184468The satanic panic was mostly over by the 2000s. It was at its height in the 80s and there was some lingering amount in the 90s but by the 2000s all that was left was crazy preachers ranting about Harry Potter and they were largely ignored.
>>737184536Yes, that is an excellent example of the kind of reductionist twattery in use here, apparently filtered through chatGPT to look a bit more presentable
>>737184096maybe. maybe not. the same people would still be in charge of games media.I think this conflict was near inevitable.
>>737184562And thats why AFD is like at 30% every year.
>>737184325it was a call to reject white identity as the default target market demographici'm not a racist so this doesn't scare me, and i'm not stupid so racists purposefully misunderstanding it as antiwhite racism was obviously retarded
>>737184549Well, they're almost right. But it's actually the other way around. Moot was hanging out with Anita and Epstein when he banned Gamergate from 4chan (and created /pol/ which is 100% a mossad psyop)
>>737184629>I'm so angry people were naive back then , I went anti-gamergate
>>737184418we shouldn't have to live in a cynical world where a person gets laughed at for asking for honesty and integrity from others.The fact that I'm even explaining this to you is indicative of the fact that civilisation has ended.
>>737183261It was simply the perfect opportunity for journos to counter attack: gamers are dead. The media being part of the propaganda machine was already known.
>>737184479"Everyone lost" in the sense that the internet went to shit, but strictly speaking within the scope of the actual game industry, no GG was a fairly large success which is why shit like call of duty and fartshite have to pump out licensing deals with popular non-gaming brands to not immediately die (they are dying, presently) and why to this day people bitch about it and demand people give up any sort of standards they have.What you're saying is like saying you didn't bake a cake because you got in an automobile wreck months later.
>>737184621They weren't ignore at all in Germany. Our Red Alert two Soldiers where Cyborgs.Our Left 4 Dead zombies didn't bleed, get dismembered they instantly vanished. And don't get me started on any game that featured Nazis.
>>737184697Ok now explain how white identity was ever the default target market for a majority Japanese dominated industry.
>>737184664Das wird so scheiße wenn/falls die gewinnen. Immer Anti-Alles und von nichts einem Plan.
>>737184150Because motivations are a decent heuristic for determining if a particular perspective is earnest or suspect or whatever. If white anons were being actually not-just-a-joke-not-just-trolling racist before they were actually, directly attacked for being white dudes, but starting from when they perceived an attack on their social primacy, then it becomes less, "They hit me so I hit back," more, "I got mad that they didn't let me hit them so I hit them harder." Which is, obviously, somewhat less virtuous.And I'm not angry. I simply pointed out the historical inconsistency. (Though I guess that's ironically consistent with the general sentiment of assuming that someone who says, "Don't call me a nigger," is upset, whereas someone who says (implies), "Nigger (i.e., you are dumb and a parasite and I would string you up if I ever got the chance)" is being perfectly calm and rational.)
>that one sperg in the thread who is trying to call literally everything a right wing conspiracy while failing to convince anybody
>>737184702>mossad created and coordinated the most effective source of antisemitism anti-israel PR and intel leaks on the modern day internet
>>737184707>we shouldn't have to live in a cynical world where a person gets laughed at for asking for honesty and integrity from others.This is because a woman sucked dick for a score.Jesus christ this isn't even reductionist bullshit anymore, it's straight up melodrama.Grab a tampon you fucking pussy.
>>737184664What's that supposed to mean?
>>737184808Y E S
>>737184763These are real images from the game. Not memes btw.
>>737184432I assumed it was a troll because the alternative is that you can't read and are a dumbfuck. I was giving you the benefit-of-the-doubt.
>>737184792>right wing conspiracy
It led to war in Iran and Ukraine
Gamergate is when I first started to investigate and notice things that I wasn't supposed to notice. Noticing those things lead to noticing even more things. And then I began to hate.
>>737184418>nothing you did matters chud>but also we must aggressively tell you that chud>and stop it from ever occurring again chudI'm gonna need you to give me an exact numerical estimate of how many nuclear missiles you believe Israel possesses.
>>737183261Well for a lot of us it was more about the SCALE of the corruption. Everyone knew about GameSpot firing that one guy for rating one of their sponsors a 7/10, everyone knew Kotaku was wokeshit (or as we called it back in the day, SJW). We didn't know all this shit was connected until people started digging into social media connections.
>>737180305that there will never be an us vs the elites style unification in America like some hippie faggots have told me. Also it's a case study that shows every leftist within any movement will always be a liability because it is coded in their genes to play defense/victim (not your shield).
>>737184819AFD is a right-wing anti-establishment political party in Germany that the media, along with the government, has been desperately trying to kill for years and yet 1 in 3 still support them and they've only grown in popularity. The media doesn't have anywhere near the power it once did. Most people do not trust them at all.
>>737184036ofc, she was the original grifter
>>737184857>literally just describing why video games are fun
>>737184519where's the LOL, that is traditionally how irl neo-nazi chapters get new members. hell lots of times they get covered up because there's cops in the group or were even the chapter's founders
>>737184768western gamesare you stupid on purpose or do you think english media is intended for a japanese audience
>>737184808Remember Bill Clinton's blowjob? Is that irrelevant melodrama too?
>>737184792Erm but anon, don't you know le right wingers support filling the entire internet with AI slop astrotufing now? Guess you have to abandon your principles because muh meaningless factional distinctions, I am very smart and tricking you.
>>737184629Are you seriously trying to claim that editorial standards aren't worth giving a fuck about because "lmao journalists do favours for each other all the time"? By that logic there's no meaningful difference between North Korean state media outlets and any other press outlet because "lmao it's all corrupt". Who's being reductive again? Now contend with what I have to say or quit wasting my time faggot.
>>737184887>oh no oh shit reading this made me feel stupid I'm being attacked must shut down all thought deploy cliche
>>737184857>fighting off literal alien invaders not even mexicans but actual ayy lmaos who want to enslave/kill humanity is right wingso letting them take over is left wing?
>>737184819Means that people don't trust the media, hate immigrants and there 1/3 of the population opposing the current system with the most extreme way out they can see.Trains don't run on time, people are losing jobs left and right, GDP figures crashing, energy prices are out of control and manufacturing is moving anywhere else it can the government keeps being more retarded. Maybe 1/3 of the entire population actually believes the media.
>>737184803>mossad created and coordinated the most effective source of antisemitism anti-israel PR and intel leaks on the modern day internetWell I mean technically...
>>737184973I'm gonna need you to give me an exact numerical estimate of how many nuclear missiles you believe Israel possesses.
>>737184941ai slop killing the artistic movement among right-wing cranks because they never actually cared about the artistic process beyond illustrating their flat earth theories and jewish mole-men stories for attractive powerpoint slides was a very real loss
>>737184974It's "decolonialism"
>>737184940.....yes?Bill Clinton was a piece of shit and I'll always despise him for destroying welfare and deregulating investment banking but him getting sucked off by an intern is fucking nothing.
>>737182639The talk page really is something else. I think they're currently at 62 pages of archives just on this one article. Really opened my eyes to some of the more batshit insane editors that plagued the site. Ryulong especially, before even Wikipedia realized he was an obsessed nutter and gave him the boot.
>>737184845>post unapologetic lefist drivel about muh racial hierarchy and wypipo corrupting the justice system and justice 4 trayvon>get called out for it>wtf no you can't read you're retarded!!
>>737184790that's a lot of words for Ad Hominem
>>737184857>restoration of natural harmony (Sonic to FarmVille)>environmentalism is right wing nowI feel genuinely insulted
>>737184913When the media fails, the EU will intervene. Remember Romania.
>>737184524im still waiting for her prison time for killing Alex
>>737184951>By that logic there's no meaningful difference between North Korean state media outlets and any other press outlet because "lmao it's all corrupt".you'd be surprised how little difference there actually is, remember that "everybody in north korea is forced to have kim jong un's haircut" story came from an "anonymous" source at a north korean reporting agency owned by the us government
>>737184974The next one is even worse. Apparently not wanting to be infected with a terminal zombie virus also makes you right wing.
>>737185029Men should be faithful to their wives. People were actually right to be outraged. It's us in the here and now who are wrong.
>>737184951>Editorial standards!>Please think of the fourth estate and not a girl sucking dick for a video game review score! Thinking about that would make this all seem really silly!You know you'd think when you've been called out on this tactic twice already you'd try something else.
>>737184830I like the idea that future arabs dont have the cyborg technology of the americans and chinese, so they straight up just convert their suicide bombers into super mario go-karts.
>>737184774Keine chance dass die gewinnen. Niemand wird mit ihnen eine Koalition eingehen. Die bräuchten einen 60% gewin wie die Magyar Partei in Ungarn.
>>737185004You know if you're too stupid to realize I'm making fun of you for being a retard, maybe you should think before you post stuff like that.If the "Democratization" of media has any factional distinction it's probably not the one YOU want.
>>737184803Controlled opposition is kind of their thing.
>>737180305>movement against game journo corruption because all it takes is some slut sucking dicks to get journos to give a game a high score>constantly bombarded with "muh gamers are sexism" from every news channel>"gamers are sexists" is all GG is remembered forAll that taught us is that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will start parroting it.
>>737185004>the artistic movement among right-wing cranksYou cannot kill "the artistic movement for the right-wing" when anyone right-wing was being forcibly ejected from those spaces in the first place. If you are an online artist you are expected to be either politically neutral or support Le Current Thing. This is not a conspiracy theory, it is easily observed on social media. It should therefore come as no surprise to you when people laugh at obnoxious artists, who are aggressively left-wing, being undermined by new strides in AI image gen.
>>737185134>too busy being an epic debate-lord to have fun
>>737182684>us white girls cannot use thempure mental illness
>>737185161Which is why you're here damage controlling still trying to establish the official narrative despite it being like 12 years later, right?Because it definitely worked.
>>737185058Please learn how to read.
>>737184802I was 'there' that day, Gandalf, when the strength of Men failed...
>>737185237Please consider suicide.
>>737184803Yes. Look at how Israelis act on TV, they blame everything on antisemitism whenever anyone criticizes Israel. And they can't do that if there isn't a large visible source of antisemitism.
>>737185176>Um I was being a disingenuous retard on purpose actuallymad
>>737181697
>>737183304>I'll never trust a journo again! Those liars!>It planted a seed in many peoples minds that helped them gradually notice more and more journo bullshit even outside gaming.This is the key to the whole thing.There is an absolute age divide between people who believe what they see on the news and people who don't.The consequences of that still haven't fully settled in yet, though they're getting there.It's almost awe inspiring that there were entire generations that just believed at face value 90% of what they saw on television.
>>737184857>>737184974>>737185064I don't think that they mean that fighting off alien invaders is fascist or right wing, just that it can be used like that.Think COD which gets support from the US military and is basically at fault for making war look cool.
>>737184802Totally normal and not coordinated. And then suddenly people asked themselves. If they did this, what the fuck were they doing all this time?
>>737185174>when anyone right-wing was being forcibly ejected from those spaces in the first placeoh jesus anon if you're an artist you're selling yourself as a brand constantly because literally every artist does that, you're describing people that will under no circumstances keep their spaghetti in their pockets for the sake of their business and hobbybut i'll also add it genuinely does not help that publicly right wing artists, even ones that people like, tend to be ravingly insane. look at ben garrison
>>737185291>Disproves your entire article
>>737185147Very true. That's why so much of the American right is a bunch of Scofield Bible-thumping Zionists who do genuinely despise art and, really, most aspects of human nature. They are shoehorned into the American right-wing for the express purpose of being fuddy-duddies who are aggressively moronic, unconvincing cultists and help set up the elaborate lie that freedom of expression only exists if you convert to leftism. They are a small obnoxious group with a suspicious amount of money, and they stem directly from Jewish influence who has many reasons why it would want all American culture to support that same strain of leftism that created shit like Bolshevism.
>>737184240You gotta follow up that accusation with some facts bro.
>>737185328nobody cares about dragon quest
>>737185231Huhuh, have you tried talking about GG anywhere else but 4chan?
>>737185291>When I want to feel like a princessSo insane man is only just discovering sane people don't think like him?
>>737185343>bolshevism>left wingthe shit i read on 4chan
>>737185350Imagine tracing fuckley lmao.
>>737185061"What you believe" != "Who you are". (Necessary but insufficient, lacking your origin and actions.) If criticizing someone's motivations in a discussion about what someone's motivations were and how that affects the legitimacy of their actions, I guess we can just pack it up. "It" being reasoned communication. Out goes mens rea.
>>737185350>edit my english homework for meNo, Pradesh, do your own work.
>>737185308NTA but suck a dickThe literal bestselling game of all time was created by a right winger, and he's been unpersoned from his own creationIt really underlies what's being said about politics and creativity, there is a "creative community" that will eject anyone it disagrees with, but will also bizarrely try to "claim" their work; see Harry Potter, the Bible for faggots who want to murder its author
>>737185071Obviously corruption persists throughout various media ecosystems, you'd have to be retarded to deny that. At the same time, there are very obvious material differences between the editorial hoops you have to jump through at a mainstream western outlet versus the state media outlets observed in authoritarian regimes. The guy I'm responding to is claiming that I'm being "reductive" for speaking to the specific motivations of a set of people responding to a specific media climate during a specific controversy. His claim is "muh fourth estate all media is corrupt you're gay for caring lmao", which doesn't even properly contend with any claim I've made about the specific group I'm talking about. >>737185096You're too stupid to bother wasting any more of my time with.
>>737185174Newgrounds disproved this.
>>737184702>/pol/ is a jewish psyop>the modern left is a jewish psyop>both sides fucking hate israelwhat the actual fuck is their end goal?
>>737185373>Um I'll have you know we run gay ops on the steam forums tooAnd? This doesn't prove your point stupid, it proves mine.
>>737185439I accept your concession
>>737185308I don't even know if I would call Ben Garrison "an artist" the same way I wouldn't call 99.999% of political cartoonists "an artist" regardless of their beliefs. What I do know is if you want to draw something like Sonic the Hedgehog fanart (or whatever) and you have any sort of problem with homosex cuntboy Sonic with visible chest scars, you will be dogpiled and chased out. This is a lot of the online artist space. It is severely demented and far-left.
>>737185423notch didn't have his epic right wing pivot until after he'd already sold out his entire dev team, he is sad and alone in a mansion these daysit's also very pointedly minecraft he made, a game that never went beyond its developer-art and never even came close to the kind of 3D terraria game he first envisioned it as
>>737185308/co/fags would like to have a word with you lol
>>737185308Well the publically right wing artists are the ones who could not contain their spaghetti. I'm sure there are thousands of working artists out there, just keeping their mouths shut about all of the things they think."shy conservatism" is a thing in general.
>>737185343How do you guys always write like 80% thoughtful rhetoric and then veer into batshit insanity in the last 20%
>remember how at the time it was OUTRAGEOUS someone made a game where you beat up anita sarkeesian>In 2026 people mock the murder of charlie kirk and it's actually hilarious because he was mean toward niggers onceHow do Americans cope to live near people like this?
>>737180305the beginning of the end
>>737185308people who menstruate?
>>737184803/pol/ shilled for epstein's bestie to get into office and give MORE money to Israel. i'd say they made back their shekels
>>737185282>antisemitismthis magic word pillar recently collapsed, seemingly to everybody's surprise
>>737185473>and you have any sort of problem with homosex cuntboy Sonic with visible chest scars, you will be dogpiled and chased out. This is a lot of the online artist space.yeah inability to not just block the artist or block that artpiece and not interact with it, and instead whinge about it and leave smarmy comments, does tend to get you chased out of art circles and most circles in generali think this is more of a crowbcat styled "4channer forgets he's not on 4chan and can't yell faggotnigger without repercussions" problem
>/v/ teams up with reddit and a bunch of now forgotten youtubers>Still lose to a womanThe most embarrassing arc in 4chan history
>>737185280Considered. Kotowaru.
>>737185064desu effective environmentalism kinda is.
>>737185294>The consequences of that still haven't fully settled in yetThe consequences will be the hemorrhaging of the USD as all the usual suspects flee to Asia to restart their scam
>>737185396Are you saying bolshevism was not left wing?
>>737185550ben garrison's iconic menstruation
>>737183997NTA, but I feel as though we are seeing this shift with anime at the moment as it has become mainstream and animation studios are pushing safer, westoid friendly show for global appeal. Had it been gatekept and remained a smelly fat nerd hobby, this wouldn't have happened and the eventual degeneration into liberally safe shows is inevitable
>>737185476>developer-artOne of the most interesting gaming artists who ever lived was also exiled for wrongthinkAlso I see you already shifting from>it didn't happen but he had it coming
>>737180305Steve Bannon won
>>737185569What's embarrassing is 12 years later you retards are still trying to rewrite history in the face of the fact that nobody gives a shit about the opinions of gay journos anymore.
>>737182378steam was never the main audience for cod its all console nogs, even for the pcfags steam isn't the biggest cut when most of the playerbase is bnet since bnet was the only option from bo4 to mw2022 until they started putting shit back on steam and most people are/were playing for "free" with goypass. Consoles (mostly playstation) > Bnet/Goypass > steam when it comes to numbers for cock and duty. They are dying though, all of the boomer faggots got so assblasted by 3 years of not ass gameplay and movement so they all stopped buying the game and are waiting for the next modern warfare claymore riot shield safe space.
>>737185569What's embarrassing about THIS?
>>737184928MEDS, SCHIZO
>>737185231>criticize journalism>israeli defense force instantly shows up to deflect
>>737185396bolshevism was the tippy-top of the top left political compass (also very jewish)
>>737185509In fact, I've met these people, because I've been in amateur artist spheres.Not that uncommon some guy will take you to the side and quietly say "I'm so fucking done with all of this political correctness", or "they've taken our free speech and the world is ending", or something of that variety.I would say basically all heterosexual men think things like that by default.
>>737185639>rewrite historyBrother, Anita got rich and nothing happened to the other bitchJournos are still getting paid for pumping out slopJust take the L brother.
>>737185625>One of the most interesting gaming artists who ever lived was also exiled for wrongthink*going completely on-board the AI train, going out of his way to not understand why anybody would hate it
>>737185515>He says on a site that produced an image macro featuring DBZ's Broly throttling George Floyd with his ass cheeks.
>>737185294>It's almost awe inspiring that there were entire generations that just believed at face value 90% of what they saw on television.My dad is so bad with this. I will literally show him video footage of an event and he will still blindly believe the Stephen Colbert version of what happened rather than what he saw with his own eyes.
>>737185515Kirk was a useful idiot
>>737185515you also have this modern clasic
>>737185510You are genuinely unironically butthurt because you were nodding along with the Christfag bashing but then got offended when he also bashed commies and kikes.
>>737185464Well, your third premise is wrong, both sides' ELECTED OFFICIALS love Israel. The voters fucking hate Israel.There's two end goals. Israel itself believes it simply has a god given right to world domination. Evangelical politicians are trying to empower Israel for the last war to prepare for the resurrection of Jesus Christ so they can bring about the end times.
>>737185416Bro I've been here since 2006. It's European prime time. I'm not Indian, but it's nice to meme about it I guess kind of like the accusing everyone of being a newfag back in the day.
>>737180305And somehow from all of this: Nvidia card prices will be brought back down soon.
>>737185749>christfag>zionists
>>737185725Yeah but that's clever humor though.
>>737185509>>737185560>I demand that you either agree with me or remain silentFuck you
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>>737185721>We're really totally successful and we won and you lostIf that was true, you wouldn't be here.
>>737185308No anon if you are an artist you have a "platform" and you have to be "responsible" with it which means promoting homosexual communism and white genocide. Everyone who has pronouns in their bio is not keeping their spaghetti in their pockets, and somehow they were never harmed for it. Shoot yourself.
>>737185642There was always a reflection on Steam of their popularity. It was never in the Top 20 but it I had to dig to under 100 to find them.
>>737185515Beat up X games where extremely common back then, it was just a womannigger doing womannigger things.
>>737185772If you've been here since 2006 and your english is still so shit you can produce (or not immediately laugh at) >>737184109 then you might be mentally handicapped.
>>737185645What's so funny about this image today is half the people on the left side wound up being just like the people on the right. Some were grifters. Some just plain went crazy.
>>737185645>mfw I'm still not Anthony Burch
>>737185724Man I never even heard of whatever you're talking about because what I'm talking about happened a decade before AI art existed
GG turned all young people into nazis
>>737185715that artist's name? einstein
>>737185560The paradox of gatekeeping or expressing discontent being a bad thing, except when you do it and it has a tangible effect on the community.
>>737185835sorry you can't treat your art career like televangelism anon but you either walk the walk or fuck the off
>>737185064Yeah, that one's weird. "Restoration of natural harmony" is kind of inherently conservative but only "American right wing" when paired with *gestures vaguely at eugenics and Manifest Destiny*
>>737185814that is what the left demands though. You cannot openly disagree with anything they think, and remain in some kind of civilised relationship with them. They will demand conversion or excommunication.
>>737185308>look at ben garrisonhow is he any worse than his flipside nutjobs like horsey
>>737185308yes, you do in fact have to be ravingly insane to publicly out yourself as right wing on the internet outside 4chan. this is not an own against that anon and in fact further supports his point. all the sane right-wing artists keep it private because they're more interested in succeeding at their job than using it to push an agenda. didn't the FNaF creator get forced out of creative leadership in his own franchise for being a Trump supporter like half a decade ago or something, for example?
>>737184726>GG starts over "getting politics out of video games">games are still political you fuckers didn't do shit. even the AAA industry crashing and burning would have happened regardless due to pumping out endless slop that no one including libshits like
>>737185787>I dont know what Zionism actually isHint: It's not exclusively a bunch of Jews and never was
>>737184886>t.easily manipulated frogfag
Is there a wiki page or youtube video or something I could watch of the full "history" of gamergate? With as little bias as possible? Gamergate didn't "just happen", you know? There were events, persons/characters and details to show what is what.
>>737185959That's not what GG was about dipshit
>>737185939scott left of his own accord, he was not forced out
>>737180305At the time I can say that that was when I realised that this website had been overrun by braindead normalfags.Journalists are corrupt? No shit. I knew that when I was 12 years old.
>>737180305remind me what GG was
>>737185867Not gonna fall for your bait since I've been here for so long. Just wanted to tell you, you need to accuse me of a more prestigious shitposting group such as Slavs, Germans or Italians. Meanwhile enjoy my old Religious post collection.
>>737185847Sure its a reflection but its a very very small part of the playerbase. The trends are the same for sure, the series is in a downward trend which is really funny since the games gameplay imo has been pretty good all the AI slop calling cards and bad campaign aside. Fortnite firing a ton of people after getting a fucking ton of collabs and now the game is full of bugs and falling apart internally is really funny. But hey it was worth it for fucking tung tung tung 67 or whatever.
>>737180305It was never about ethics in games journalism. Gamers really are misogynistic hypocrites.
>>737185749Well, you're about 2/3s right.
>>737185938he's just an example
>>737185928>>737185939It's funny how people aren't even arguing now, they're agreeing>yes everyone who doesn't support Bluesky checkmarks must be silenced or exiled at all costs>yes that's a good thing
>>737186040Naturally the religious oldfags didn't just sit by idly and let that slide!
>>737185895>ITS OKAY WHEN I DO IT CHUDDAY
>>737185971>1 in 4 American Christians believe Jews should live in Israel and kill Muslims and we should sell them the weapons to do soChristian Zionism doesn't sound so bad.
>>737185895This is a completely worthless response
>>737185813My bro, no it is not.
>>737186105Why are wokies so much better at censorship than chuddies? Anita Sarkeesian is basically a successful Jack Thompson.
>>737180305Nothing has changed from this, there are still sluts and whores still trying to fuck their way to the top.
>>737185928anon this is about choosing to not interact with sonic cuntboy art instead of complaining about it, this isn't about a system-wide stamping of your civil liberties by the Radical Left as reported by fox news
Freaks acting like they were in the right and that GG was just about nazis instead of people being upset at game journalists being game journalists.
The memeification of feedback loop is ingenious. To this day when you start these threads it starts rolling. This is it. This is what we injecting into the world that has lead to everything. As long as stupidity exist, the meme starts spinning.
>>737180305>GamerGate>Caused Trump to get electioned twice>Caused Brexit>Caused the rise of the Chuds>Caused the end of DEI and trannies grooming kidsAll leftists had to do was leave me alone and let me play my games in peace, literally that was it. But even that was too much for them, knowing that somewhere there was a White man enjoying his life, being happy playing a game he paid for.
>>737186153>>737186121He's telling it like it is. Get with the program or fuck off. Those are the rules and crying about them doesn't change them.
>>737186187>Nothing has changed from thisWrong, everything got shittier much faster.
>>737186176Chuddies are easily manipulatedJust look at all the grifters
>>737181247he already fucked us back in 2011 with epstein, just that we didn't know it at the time
>>737186153>i am being silenced by the COMMUNIST, ANTI-WHITE art world when i can't leave hate comments on your sonic cuntboy art without social repercussions KILL YOURSELFthis is also worthless! did you expect a masters degree level of debate about it
>>737185787american christian lunatics are a death cult that want israel to start an apocalypse so jesus can come back and take them all to heaven or something like he isn't gonna send all of the people that force started it to hell for being deeply evil people
>>737186232Do you think that rules are socially constructed?
>>737186079yeah I gave you an opposite example.
>>737186191no real person watches fox news
Kill all women.
>>737186303they're perilously close to not being recognized as a branch of christianity by an american christian become pope and i have been giggling and kicking my feet like a schoolgirl about it
>enabling the proto-tourist and all the faggotry that would come>Stumbling directly onto a handful of whiny faux-feminists trap card, becoming the excuse for a decade of censorship and 'problematic' censure Nothing good came of it because there were enough people too goddamn stupid to give the "enemy" a perfectly structured win and then said tourists would make up tons of conspiracy nonsense about how the only reason they couldn't win is because of teh wokejewblackrockgoypressgaytransfaggotry that is simultaneously the most powerful thing in the world and is so weak that its just about to crumble if someone doesn't take their meds for a few days and 'names' it. For those of us who were around when the first major censorship panic came for vidya in the 90s, , there was a predictable gameplan that would have avoided all of this shit and won, but no...had the goobergaters been around back then the moment that some religious rightoids and busybody think of the children types claimed that Mortal Kombat and Night Trap were corrupting the children, Doom led to school schooters, and GTA turned kids into criminals...they would have inundated Congress with letters claiming they were going to murder anyone who dared to claim games make kids violent, leading to Mortal Kombat likely being banned in arcades and violent or sexy games only being sold in adult goods stores etc. Fuck.
>>737185464/pol/tards are gullible retards who are effectively control opposition(when they aren't actively bootlicking the elites). democrats meanwhile are so incompetent that making everything gay for a month IS the extent of their influence so who cares if their grunts want to bomb kikeland
>>737186176they're genuinely violent and dysfunctional people. They aren't seeking a happy equilibrium the way conservatives pretty much are by default.
>>737185938Horsey is a better artist, as someone who disagrees with everything he draws.
>>737186221So what was GamerGate? /pol/shit or gamers being ass holes?
>>737186176they hold real power.
>>737185998ok then what WAS GG about oh wise one?
>>737186440i'm really interested to see what happens to the democrats in the future, since continuing to be the sit-on-hands party desperately trying to court clinton-era voters that don't exist anymore instead of pandering to obama-era voters (that their megadonors hate) will probably spell the end of them as a relevant political party
>>737186221How were leftists not letting you play games in peace by giving Depression Quest a good score?
>>737182846>monkey pox>aids>rampant hypersexuality>happy marriage
>>737186572monkeypox came and went like a fart in the wind after an extreme attempt to champion it as "AIDS 2" in an anti-fag crusade, still a horrible disease obviously but it's really funny that it just completely failed as a propaganda tool
>>737186490it was the first noticing.
>>737186543>>737186543>>737186543The first Democrat to go full Yakub will win. Notice how popular Mamdani's proposed Whiteness Tax is.
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>>737186628Remember this thread when you get it!
>>737186504Ethics in gaming journalism.Namely that obvious conflicts of interest were being hidden from the public
>>737186571Because they were actively trying to terraform the industry and make things like Depression Quest and Gone Home the new standard.Arguably, they succeeded. We now have God of War games that are about feelings, instead of rampant violence and tits.
>>737185918That one isnt as weird as you think.>be not America but rather South Africa>be a bunch of white guys who arrived in Africa>you arrived here to set up a trade port at the edge of the world (civilization will follow)>this part of Africa was not inhabited by anyone>this makes it a great place for a port and some towns>towns turn into cities>pertinent to this conversation because this also create nature preserves (the Dutch like animals, go figure)>Africans (not the Dutch; black people) arrive>Africans are hunter-gatherers>this means showing up to places where resources exist, consuming them and leaving so it may replenish>you are a conservationist so Africans are also just fauna>let them exist in the area>realize Africans are kind of awful>Africans lack words in their language for concepts such as "time" or "morality">Africans do not value human life, things like rape murder and theft are just existence to them>Africans also dont know what nature conservation is because they are nature>Africans do not respect land rights or territory>letting Africans wander around and never leave is the equivalent of importing a billion flesh-eating flies and being surprised when the ecosystem starts to die>realize you cant have a society or conserve nature with Africans in excess>begin kicking them out>Israel shows up out of nowhere and takes this as a personal offense>some other stuff happens>South Africans (the white kind) are now held hostage in their own nature by African leadership>civilization basically does not exist anymore outside of small, armed, gated Dutch communities>African wilderness has never been more at risk in all of recorded history>if you point this out your bank stops letting you patronize them
>>737186645unironically: all glory to the mamdani caliphate of new york, rich people shitting themselves and boot-looping in confused anger that he got elected, let alone is fulfilling his promises, is funnygoes to show how much of politics is kayfabe since it turns out actually he can just snap his fingers and shit happens
>>737184857>splatoon, empire buildingthis has to be ragebait. there's no way someone compared fucking virtual paintball to imperialism and expected people to take it seriously.
>>737186669monkeypox was relevant, like, what, five or six years ago now? it may as well be that tiktok-/pol/ "super straight" thing that similarly tailspun and died instantly
>>737186776Sure bro, and AIDS is totally a 90s thing, too! Sutpid faggot, can't wait until you're dead from at least the vax.
>>737186176Well if you dont respect their pronouns they go shoot up an elementary school. Who could have guessed Abrahamic terrorism actually works?
>>737186504Ethics in fucking gaming journalism. What did you think that was a catch phrase somebody made up?
>>737186504>>737186682I've always explained it like this: imagine if there was a "moviegate" where some Hollywood tabloid started by investigating a female celeb sleeping around for clout (like Zoe Quinn) but in their investigation they discover an actual conspiracy of collusion among media outlets (like the Gamers Are Dead mailing list)
>>737186713>actually he can just snap his fingers and shit happensI realized this when Xi visited San Francisco and there were no homeless people or fecesApparently the authorities can in fact make those things go away, they just choose not toA week after he left they were back
>>737186490It's what caused a huge amount of previously non-political people to start noticing how political activists were trying to take over their hobby. I think the most damning aspect of GamerGate noticing was when a bunch of Games journos all released articles for different media outlets all at the same time titled 'GAMERS ARE DEAD, GAMERS DON'T NEED TO BE YOUR AUDIENCE ANYMORE'.
>>737186439>touristSomebody showed up when m00t holocausted /v/ and it isn't me
>>737186834>AIDS is totally a 90s thing, too!80s is when your seething about it started specifically ("gay cancer") but yeah kinda too, AIDS research has since brought quality of life up for HIV+ patients considerably and these days if you're medicated it's more of a constant minor health upset than a lifethreatening illness. a couple completely cured patients are floating around
>>737185578china is studying the subversion of the west though because they dont want to see it applied to them in the future.
>>737180305People in it were entirely psyoped by conservative/christian tourists into hating stuff that has always existed in gaming for decades. Old 1997 games like Quake 2 had playable black women and men, and it would have been an uproar if it were released today. Elder scrolls Redguard was an rpg with an entirely black cast.The "ethical journalism" was also a complete farce when you consider that corporations still pay influencers to positively cover their products now under the veneer of "telling it how it is" or appearing rebellious. A lot of politically incorrect ecelebs psyop anons into playing P2W garbage gacha games that are more exploitative than AAA titles. They'll lie that it is free and that the story is good, but your progression is directly tied to how powerful your units are and there will be a roadblock preventing you experiencing it unless if you pay money.
>>737186914Cope harder, cocksucker.
>>737186867they should legitimately be storming their city hall to kill the mayor with hammers when his solution to homelessness is putting spikes on all the park benches
>>737186916If China is studying anything its to shamelessly try and mimic it for short-term gain.
>>737186918everyone sees you
>>737186959But anonThe mayor of San Francisco at the time was Gavin Newsom, our next president!
>>737186918>that corporations still pay influencers to positively cover their products now under the veneer of "telling it how it is" or appearing rebelliousIf they do, name them and report them to the FTC.
>>737186953"cope" is when you *don't* have medical pictures on your computer or phone to spam on 4chan when you get angry about your own outdated AIDS information, apparently
>>737186571Trying to infiltrate games media first and then into developer studios to convince studios that what people like me wanted in a game wasn't profitable, wasn't what 'gamers' wanted in a game and wasn't progressive e.t.c. which led to a bunch of studios changing the stories and games they made to appeal to the mythical 'modern audience' which has never existed.A classic example of this is Saints Row, 1,2 and 3 were hyper violent GTA clones but carved out it's own niche with it's own cast of over the top no nonsense characters, brutal killers but also with comedy.Then Violition got the Sweet Baby Inc treatment, Anita Sarkesian herself was made a consultant for the game and Saints row 5 came out completely 'wokified' for the lack of a better term, and changed the appeal of the game completely to where it had become a parody of itself and quite rightly caused the game to fail and the studio itself to close down.
>>737186490Even Marx was a hired bitch boy journalist for elites who wanted to destroy class mobility. You have no idea how acutely the leftoids understand that their movement is dead the moment they lose their grip on propaganda production. Most of the thing was just journalists cretinously spasming as a response to someone mentioning that some friends were fucking each other, simply because the friends involved were leftist retards working in propaganda.
>>737187031Coping is what you're doing right now, by pretending that you being owned by my image is actually an own on me. Typical behavior from a retarded 90 IQ cocksucking sodomite.
>>737185645>r*ddit
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>>737185725that actually happened though.
>>737186914>80s is when your seething about it startedThat's because that's when it started. HIV was identified in 1983 you FUCKING ZOOMER. You are a newfag TO LIFE.
>>737186964the famously short-term gains of renewable energy and mass adoption of high quality electric vehiclesor smartphones that're just as powerful as a western designed model that's $500 more expensive
>>737186918>corporations still pay influencers to positively cover their products now under the veneer of "telling it how it is" or appearing rebelliousYes, but they actually have to disclose their conflict of interest to do it. They at the very least do hold that standard more often now, even if only through technicalities
>>737186176>a successful Jack ThompsonImagine how happy Jack Thompson is now that Grand Theft Auto actively censors itselfThey even took all the Confederate flags out of it lol
>>737183754>Kotaku for years attacked Kamiya for Bayoneta for exampleBayonetta was an intresting case, because her games were also blacklisted from every publisher but Nintendo despite the game's success. It also got revinionist history where they pretended that she was always a feminist icon despite being relentlessly attacked for years under the claim that it was the opposite.
>>737186918no, they were made aware of it. because they didn't notice before. you may not realize this but the SJWs went through a similar process where they could no longer stomach media from the 1990s
>>737187185>the famously short-term gains of renewable energyYep, I'm here to laugh at youBtw China built 200 new coal power plants last year (approximately 10x as many as the entire rest of the world combined)
>>737187215It was never about the games. It never is.
>>737187141the seething about fags largely stopped outside of fat boomer dads when it turned out straight people could get it too, now it's just the same fat boomer dads and for some reason russian intelligence agents that seethe about AIDS being a fag illness
>>737186543>i'm really interested to see what happens to the democrats in the futureWell this is a wild conspiracy but bear with me: I think the Democrats will be just fine. I think all the career politicians currently using the Trump-Right as a source of grifting plebs and rubes will simply migrate over to whatever is astroturfed to appear as popular as Obama. The people who don't actually believe anything and just manipulate law and policy for profit (making them more powerful than the people who do actually believe stuff yet are too cowardly to pull out any Long Knives) will just keep doing what they always do.I believe guys like you will be trying to salvage a burned and tattered flag while this happens.
>>737187268>Btw China built 200 new coal power plants last year (approximately 10x as many as the entire rest of the world combined)do you have any idea how big china isalso modern power plants can be converted to use other fuels or energy generation equivalents pretty quickly
>>737187185>renewable energy and mass adoption of high quality electric vehiclesnone of which china has you big faggot
>>737187252which is also part of the reason for the remake crap in all media.
>>737183412>It's never been about video games. Ot's always about social justiceThat's a common pattern with SJWs (now called woketards) where they legitinately don't give the slightest shit about anything but getting praised by their cult for approved behaviour. It's essentially why the "modern audience" doesn't exist, they never had any intention of actually engaging with the hobby.
>>737187348>none of which china has oh holy shit he ACTUALLY doesn't know
>>737186864Zoe Quinn didn't even fuck journos to get reviews that never existed. The guy who lied about it was mad at her for breaking up with him
>>737187348I had no idea what this map was of but google says it's "Air pollution"You probably should have indicated that in the filename or something
The fact a good chunk of /v/ became useful /pol/fags is sad
>>737187413See >>737184886I just wanted to play vidya
>>737187383remake stuff is because AAA budgeting makes new ideas and experimental ideas too costly to even consider, and because gen-X is probably the most nostalgia driven generation in recorded human historythis also applies to movies and is why hollywood doesn't do anything that isn't a remake or an attempted IP revival anymore, even indian bollywood spanks them for originality. high costs are the devil of creativity
>>737187348I always love how China is objectively evil when it comes to human rights and the environment but American White Liberals call you racist for pointing it out>>737187397yeah okay
>>737187393NTA but
>>737187413m00t literally did that himself.gamergate was a /v/ phenomenon that was banned and pushed to /pol/. /v/ literally invaded /pol/ and made them aware.
>>737187397As I recall one of the guys she fucked wrote an article smearing some game jam and promoting Zoe Quinn's competing game jam which she was fundraising for and which wound up never happening and she kept the money.
>>737187413I was fine playing videogames in my metaphorical basement but you couldn't leave it alone. You just had to fuck with the bread and circuses
>>737187479american white liberals have the right of it, it's throwing stones in glass houses vis-a-vis environmental friendliness by country
>>737186478dunno about that. garrisons compositions and ideas are way more inspired.horsey is sticking to just drawing the same human faces and bodies every time.
>>737187413>take the term "useful idiot">inject "/pol/">win!
>>737187383Remakes exist because they're less risky, train newer employees, and have an expected scope>>737187252Comservatives did complain about it, but they were ridiculed for it.
devestating. we havent really recovered from it. now its all much more homogenized, less special, less interesting. i dont think i was ever excited for a new game in almost a decade now.
>>737187413That wasn't gamergate's fault. That's the fault of those who could no longer tolerate straight male sensibilities
>>737187490Did you know that the coal that China burns contains so much uranium that the uranium in the coal contains more energy than the coal?
>>737187678Coal plants also give off more radiation than nuke plants for this exact reason
>>737187281The US Government still doesn't allow gay men to donate blood or blood products. 2/3 of HIV infections are gay men. It is very much a gay disease. The seething about gays stopped because of a concentrated PSA effort. Gays getting sick was not as much of a problem as gays or SUSPECTED gays being shunned and assaulted for carrying "The Gay Disease", so that's what PSAs at the time focused on, ensuring that people knew that straights could get it but you can ONLY get it from sex or blood.
>>737187413It would be great if the creative leftoids made some good fucking video games instead of just diversity consulting them into being shit
>>737180305Aside from living rent free in redditors' brains, not much I reckon.
>>737187775stop playing shit developed or published by sony
>>737187536Never happened. She did run a kickstarter for a vn collab that never manifested and she indirectly criticized people supported the farce that is Gamergate.
>>737187391same goes for all activists. take global warm ant anti oil retards. they never mention chinese and indians literally polluting our air and oceans by the hundredfold compared to us. they can screech here, glue themselves to the streets and paintings, deface art, but they never talk about nuking jeets and chinks. and africans for good measure, not only because they are an outsourcing resource to the chinks now.
>>737187814Are you saying that there are creative leftoids making good video games somewhere else?
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>>737187591So sorry for using non approved terms, faggot.
>>737187281it is nofap theobros and self-hating celibate (unlovable) homos who complain about it while voting for promiscuous/gooner right-wingers
>>737187852Yeah? You think prison gangs exist because they like it?
>>737187837its true that protesting in china and india would just get them raped, but their pollution is our pollution too.we are the ones who built up their manufacturing industry because we wanted cheap plastic and we are literally selling trash to the third world so that they can dump it into their backyard/ocean.
>>737187910True, I'll edit 'left' into 'commies' and 'right' into 'humans' for next time.
>>737187852You've never met a 'Nazi' in your life. I mean an actual Nazi and not someone you've called a Nazi because they said 'nigger'.
>>737187910The left can't meme
>>737187852That cartoonist is very sane
>>737187413
Was there EVER any actual evidence Zoey Quinn fucked dudes for good reviews or did everyone just believe the blog her ex wrote without even considering that he could be full of shit? I was never involved with this shit.
>>737187490Yeah that's not a great graph. First off, energy consumption includes gasoline and diesel, which aren't easily avoidable in a lot of industries. That's going to be most of the oil consumption.But note the enormous explosion of coal in 2005-2010. That was china supercharging their economy with foreign investment money. Coal plants at the time were the cheap and easy energy source, they had no idea solar and wind would explode the way they have, you can see them going from nil to quite visible on the right side, where coal stays more or less stagnant. Most of that slope is because it's stacked on top of oil. That's what we call a trend.
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>>737188078>Was there EVER any actual evidence Zoey Quinn fucked dudes for good reviewsThe fact that you're calling it reviews.
>>737187852and then, for no reason at all...
>>737188031>That fucking titleI can't be the only person genuinely concerned about the well-being of these people, right? Whoever wrote this needs serious help beyond what games can do for them
>>737188078Yea bro, they did a swab and took sperm samples from all journos. Totally-not-in-the-know-and-just-passing-by anon. Disingenuous cunt
>>737186918>psyoped by conservative/christian tourists into hating stuff that has always existed in gaming for decades.
>>737186918Your lies have no power here Worm-tongue.
>>737187992>>737187968Did you even look at the post before that? /pol/fags aren't sending their brightest....
>>737186918there literally is not a conflict here.Everyone but you can tell the difference between developers including cool black or female characters because they thought they were cool, and all of that shit they do to games now.No one is retroactively upset about Mike Tyson's Punch Out. You're making that up.
>>737187252getting whipped into a psychotic frenzy by internet schizophrenics is not "noticing" anything
>>737188078Two things:One, Nathon Greyson never reviewed depression quest. That's a mandela effect thing, he was just an alpha tester. What he did was give coverage to her upcoming game jam that was created specifically to compete with TYFC's game jam because she didn't like their rules.But the other more important thing, there doesn't need to be proof. Quinn and Greyson had an intimate relationship. Ethical standards should bar Greyson from ever covering Quinn without at minimum a conflict of interest disclaimer. Because we can never KNOW if Quinn fucked him for press because nobody here is a mind reader, but it sure LOOKS that way. It's called the appearance of impropriety, and it is just as important as the improper conduct itself.
>>737187348You are aware that China for the last 20 years has been preparing for a war with the US. To that effect if decided to focus all it's energy on high speed rail instead of the more logical Airplanes. Because Airplanes use Kerosine that the US can block.It decided to become the worlds biggest producers of batteries, solar, electric vehicles of all kind from Trucks, Buses and Cars. Half of all cars sold in 2025 in China were Electric 50%. The only countries with a higher adoption ratio is Norway with 92% and Sweden with 58%.The entire long term strategy of China is to decople from Oil because Oil can be sanctioned and blockaded. Also all the Statistics floating around are very deceptive and stupid. Oh look Electric vehicles per capita wow the Nordics are so advanced, so benelovent so amazing.Then you realize 55% of OF ALL ELECTRIC CARS are located in China. 34 Million Electrics cars in China versus 6.2 Million in the US and only 10.8 Million in the EU.There more Electric cars in China then anywhere else on the entire planet period.
>>737188308lol, you're actually clueless. developers weren't saints back then and were trying to influence you.
>>737188260You'll never actually accept that you idiots got bamboozled
>>737188367Yeah anything per capita in china is bullshit, because they have a billion people and 900 million of them are dirt farmers.
>>737188078None. It was just a single sentence by a journo who regularly covered indie games. Less egregious than devs paying right-wing influencers like Asmongold or DEIdetected to positively cover their games
>>737187976>we are the ones who built up their manufacturing industryexactly. ban outsourcing and importing of workforce unless the rules, stipulations and payment are the same for everyone. but i'm assuming forcing lesser humans to adhere to basic rules would be racist.
>>737188282It's supposed to be a refutation of the idea that people are pushed into being "Nazis". Except they literally are. That's what neo Nazis are. they're prison gangs.
>>737188393More like you'll never accept you can't bamboozle what you believe to be idiots
>>737188374People wanted to buy the boxing game because boxing was cool. Japanese developers in the 80's, weren't clued in on your weird Marxist bullshit.
>>737188335no, once you point this shit out, it becomes obvious. and it's clear subversive propaganda will eventually be noticed.
>>737186918It doesn't matter how many times you explain it, they'll never admit they were wrong. They're too stupid and far too proud to admit it. If concrete proof that Epstein himself was behind /pol/ isn't enough, nothing is.
>>737188393Try telling the truth for once in your life, impossible challenge for you. What caused Gamergate?
>>737188437You realize what you just said. The majority of them are non urban dwellers that don't contribute to the economy. Right? That means if the oil went away they'd just continue their poor subsistence farming living style but a bit lower quality. Meanwhile most of their cities and long range transport are safe because they invested into High speed rail and electric vehicles. Meaning any heavy energy sanctions against them are sort of pointless. And they can just burn coal to power them they don't give a fuck.
It was justified self-defense. That's it and that's all. You picked the wrong battle
>>737188534Who on /v/ doesn't like the cast of Street Fighter 2? Bring this person to me.
>>737188534Thank you for causing nazis to rise again, hitler 2.0 is coming for your ass soon
>>737187852Part of communist ideology is the idea that socialism is inevitable. Then in their relative future fascism appeared and worked pretty well and was congruent with the observation that the workers didn't unite during WW1. There was thus evidence that fascism was an alternative to socialism and therefore socialism wouldn't be inevitable because history could go down many ways.Thus communists view fascists as their only viable enemy. When they call things fascist, they call it that in particular because they think that it's the only thing they could lose to. Therefore, anything being called fascist has the potential to fuck the communist project.To fuck the communist project, according to a communist, you have to do the things that the communists call fascist, and it is the only option for countering the communist project, thus people are forced to do it when communists try to harm them.
>>737188452the addiction to outsourcing and importation of work-force is a function of capitalism, if they can pay less for workers through unscrupulous means they WILL do it because why would they NOT do it. there is no way out of this that isn't completely kneecapping companies, and it's a hard sell for a consumerist economy in the first place because cheap goods will become scarcernot helping is the american economy's backbones are fraud and gambling
>>737185787Israel is funded by evangelicals who want to start the apocalypse
>>737186176Troons are unironically less stupid than chuds
>>737188626Yeah I realize that. I'm saying that when you see a low 'per capita' number for china it's actually a much higher per capita for the capitas that actually matter, indicating a much higher state of readiness.
>>737188796Troons are simply autistic men who couldn't get a girlfriend.
>>737186543the only shot the dems have at win is going all in on being anti-Israel and actually pushing the “radical” shit their voters want beyond making shit gay. So in other words I hope you’re ready for president Vance.
>>737188367>China for the last 20 years has been preparing for a war with the USSomething that would go laughably badly for them
>>737181232Bruh... Ubisoft and Bungie are going under. EA is scraping by on sports games, Microsoft is giving up on its Xbox consoles and catering to PC and Bethesda has seen lay offs after Shartfield flopped.
>>737189036i'm ready for president vance to lose because he's in the same position of "at least i'm not kamala, who is promising to be biden 2" that got trump into a second termvance is currently preening himself to be an anti-trump republican for next time but i think he should probably just abandon all of his aims because he can't shake off his couch-fucking, parent-hating and appalachian-obsessing reputation
>>737186918While there were some legitimate differences between those titles listed in the past and what would come later (ie games that happened to have black people in them vs games that were designed because someone said they HAD to have black people added or else it was a heckin racism), its also worth pointing out that the >ethics in games journalism guys shit was not like some new rallying cry or issue. Everyone in the old days knew that many "games review magazines" and the like were essential advertising and there was legitimate criticism of that bias (as well as how Japanese titles or even niche PC games in certain genres would at some points be given lower scores during the coming of the X-Bro era) so it wasn't like people thought that 'games journalism' was being operated like Walter Cronkite was sitting behind the desk of every review taking an unbiased, professional investigative approach. If people could have just focused on all the ways that gaming related media was in bed with the industry, but Steve Bannon (he was trying to propagandize to disaffected nerdy incel stereotypes since seeing how much money and effort was put into people buying MMO currency during his time managing fucking IGE the chinese gold farming company) literally psyopped vulnerable idiots into a self defeating culture war that brought about the very things they claimed to hate and led to the rise of "wokeness" in gaming when the industry decided it could bend over backwards to get away from the bad PR of "women hating incel man-babies and their problematic views" while also being promised that hordes of niggers, women, and trannies would come out of the woodwork to buy games if they just weren't so heckin cishet male gaze-y, while somehow not impacting original audience. The entire thing w/corporate fucktards and culture warrior propaganda, that managed to play two sides against each other to make things worse for both of them in hopes to profit off them
>>737188961...and then turned to sissy hypno on a grooming discord
>>737188534>concrete proof that Epstein himself was behind /pol/Your concrete proof if Epstein inviting a bunch of young goyim to meet with him (because that is how talent scouting works basically) and he met with mootle one timeI dont know why you guys dont stick to the Steve Bannon stuff, that guy is an actual manipulative asshole and has been trying to weaponize gamers and online dweebs in demonstrable ways, but I guess Bannon doesn't immediately cause the kneejerk response as Epstein's name does
>>737181129It's probably the best example of why you can't use Wikipedia as a source of information. Honestly this is probably the best litmus test to see if someone's a lemming retard that's easily lured by "popular" consensus.
>>737189117>couch-fucking
>>737186440it’s still funny how the term “culture marxism” exists solely because no one with a straight face could argue that the democrats would actually make America socialist much less actually communist.
>>737188534let's all sing together!
>>737186682>Ethics in gaming journalism.that has got to be the gayest reason for a "major" controversy to kickoff. even then games journalism still sucks its just that its now dying because most people realized getting ragebaited by a soulless corporation when they don't even like the normal articles of is fucking stupid
>>737188701>because cheap goods will become scarcerthen you just make sure the quality is high enough so the good last and arent designed to break just after the warranty ran out. capitalism doesnt work in favour of furthering humanity beyond scarcity and evolution and even towards the stars. as things are now, we will all die on this rock.
>>737189228Unlike you, a lemming retard easily lured by drooling morons on 4chan.
>>737189346ethics in game journalism extends into ethics in journalismif i have to tell you why ethics in journalism is important then you dont know enough to be discussing any of this
>>737189108None of that changes the fact that the highest selling games are all AAA games.The highest selling games of 2025 are basically the same as it would have been 10 years ago, i.e. Battlefield, Call of Duty, NBA2K, Borderlands, Monster Hunter, Fifa and Oblivion was also one of the highest selling games of last year.But yeah, you retards just keep on going believing AAA is dead and obscure indie shit is what is tearing up the charts these days.
>>737189223He met with moot at least 4 times over a 6 month period.
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>>737189346>that has got to be the gayest reason for a "major" controversy to kickoffit was 100% astroturfed to mobilize a bunch of video game retards into a decade of unpaid political shilling
>>737189378You don't even know what I beleive in.
>>737189410He called moot "a bright kid" which is proof itself Epstein didnt get to know him very well at all
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>>737189346It's insane that retards still believe, or at least pretend to believe this. You'd think after 10 years they'd be able to admit that yeah they never really cared about fuckin bideo gaymes articles and just wanted and excuse to talk about their inane politics.
>>737189416I guess the real point of contention for you is the "unpaid" part, it's alright when you carry water for globohomo faggotry because the kikes behind it will pay you.
>>737189267The term is fine though. You're not redistributing wealth, you're redistributing privileged. All it accomplishes is simply giving women and blacks more privilege.
>>737189394You stupid faggot, it's not about it literally being dead, but a dying medium.Do I really need to pull up the Silksong charts?
>>737189514I think there's some implied dignity to just getting a paycheck for something, yes, so I would grade those kinds of people a little higher than you
>>737189497You don't believe it because you're so used to every piece of media being about identity and politics.
Reminder junkies and jailbirds are paid a couple thousand dollars to go do shit like protest ICE facilities, have been doing so since 2015 and the money directly comes from Democrat fundraising (BLM, trans kids, etc.)
>>737189394The population of morbidly obese americans has the largest biomass which means that they're the most alive
>>737189514Stop for a second here and think about how your life has changed in the last 10 years because of this culture war shit. Are you better off now? Has it actually improved ANYTHING?
>>737189615>moral highground is directly related to how much you get paidkek
>>737189592>Do I really need to pull up the Silksong charts?You fucking moron. Stardew Valley sold 50 million copies which is more than most AAA games. Has that meant AAA died at any point in the last 10 fucking years since Stardew Valley was released?
>>737189659And if they're too pussy to hit the streets, they come here for free!
Hope the Concords, Redfalls, Hyenas, Forspokens, Suicide Squads and so many more were worth it :)
>>737189659Never mind the illegal daycare schemes etc.You never see those brought up by guys like >>737189685 who believe this womanly peer pressure shit is convincing.
>>737189748>dumbfuck thinks indie games selling millions makes them "obscure"Thanks for making my point you retard. We really going to ignore the studio shutdowns and mass influx of flops from AAA companies in the last ten years?Fucking retard.
>>737189230It's actually insane the amount of nons that are so interested in American politics as if it's their own while their own countries are utter shitholes. They lack any sense of self-awareness.
>>737189685>iran is a wasteland>israel has worst PR in its history>right wing groups actually winning elections in europe>president is still a funny retard>nobody considers you a woman anymorefine offshore companies to fix the economy and yea it will be demonstrably better
>>737189880>We really going to ignore the studio shutdowns and mass influx of flops from AAA companies in the last ten years?Shit, that's been going on for 30 years now. And yet the highest selling games of the year are consistently almost all AAA titles. You're completely delusional if you think AAA is dying. You morons have been claiming that shit years and nothing has changed.
>>737189721It is literally how valuable you are to other people
>>737189938>YES more middle east quagmires neocons were actually based the whole timeI was not capable of imagining the level of mental cuckery you guys were capable of after a decade of sunk cost into this shit. It was a failure of my imagination.
>>737189897Not what that anon was pointing out and those american politics bleed over into western countries real fast.
>>737189978>nothing has changed
Guys... I think I'm at the objective!
>>737180305Game Journalism was basically killed off after discrediting itself completely. Woke in games wasn't really stopped.So it's half and half
>>737190031>muslim world in shambles>majority of young americans do not support israel anymorethis is objectively great
>>737190043We had those exact same headlines in 2009 when there was a massive crash. The result of that was not the death of AAA.
>>737190115Fucking lmao
>>737190164So what if Ubisoft isn't as big as it was a few years back? That doesn't change the fact that other major publishers are producing AAA titles that are the highest selling games of the year. Again, it's really hard to argue AAA is dying when AAA makes up 90% of the top 20 highest selling games of the year. You're just plain denying reality.
>>737190264>Jewish noisesYeah whatever you say dude
>>737190308I bet you think any day everyone is going to move from Windows to Linux too, retard.
>>737189938But how does this affect you personally?
