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>44% of devs are looking to leave video games due to layoffs
>22% of respondents were laid off within the last 12 months
> For those who do get laid off, only 45% of respondents have been able to find a new job
>This is across Europe, North America, the UK, APAC, and MENA
We won bros!
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Still too slow
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>industry is dying
>/v/ is happy
I thought you liked video games?
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>>737184861
People are losing their jobs. People with families. People with children. People upon whom others depend to put clothes on their back and food on their table. Now they have nothing. Many of them will have to take jobs out of desperation at reduced pay which will impact their quality of life. They will have to move across the country. They will have to sell their homes at a loss. They will have to pull their kids out of school in the middle of the year.

And yet here you are on the asshole of the internet gloating about it, conjoined by a chorus of equally pathetic shitheels who have also accomplished nothing in life. And why? Because some people made a game you did not like. As if that is such a fucking crime. But no, it's not enough that you did not support the game. You had to take it a step further. You had to trash it at every opportunity. You had to discourage others from supporting it.

There are so many talented individuals in this industry who grow disillusioned and quit because of people like you. The bitterness. The spitefulness. The hatred. There are supportive people out there but they are drowned out by the negativity. This website is a festering shitpile and people like you are mysteriously drawn to it.

You need to take a step back and reevaluate your life. Ask yourself why you take so much joy when others encounter misfortune. Does it make you feel better? Does your life finally have a purpose? Do you feel fulfilled? Do your parents tell you how proud they are of you?

I hate you. And I don't mean that in the "I think you are a fucking dickhead" sense but in the "I loathe the mere fact that you are allowed to exist another miserable day" sense. I hope you find yourself in the same situation someday. And I hope someone gloats about it on the internet. And others join in celebration. Just like you are doing right now. I will be there when it happens. And I will laugh my ass off at you.

Fuck you.

Just fuck you.
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>>737185013
The industry makes products, not games.
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>>737185013
I like good games not DEI western slop
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>>737185013
the AAA industry is not gaming
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>>737185013
I do, that's why I'm happy
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Honestly, this isn't much of a loss. Westoid game design always sucked.
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This is happy news! Still a shame about the hardware though, maybe in five years or so the AI shit will crumble or everyone will be slaves by then. So either vidya makes a comeback or it will be a moot point.
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>>737185045
Don't hate the player, don't hate the hater, don't hate the prostitute.

Hate the game.
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what a shame
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>>737185013
The AMERICAN industry is dying.
I like real video games, from Europe or Asia.
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>>737184861
Doesn't really matter to me. Gaming industry stopped producing stealth-stealthaction or even the deus ex genre of games. Anything niche really.
They can't make me care when all they've done is spit in my face for 12 years. They weren't going to release one this year and they weren't going to release one next year. So chances are they had no plans to make that games that i like at all.
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>>737184861
As long as the last good American AAA RPG studio survives, I don't care.
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>>737184861
>SKG didn't even pass but we are winning already
Good time to be alive.
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>>737185013
i like good games and can tolerate mid games, but the mass production and normalization of shitty bad games has been a disaster for gaming as a whole, so good riddance
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>>737185045
Is this pasta fresh or stale?

Regardless: haha, suck it!
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>>737185556
I haven't seen this pasta yet, but it's pasta.
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Fucking nice, fuck the western gaming industry, they can all fuck off and die.
American game development died when Microsoft introduced the Xbox and started trying to move everything over to consoles.
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>>737185419
Anon, they're megafucked, that jeeta who runs Xbox now is absolutely going to gut them when their next game flops.
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>>737184861
India won bigly
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>>737185272
Anon, Europe's industry is also dying.
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>>737184861
>Gamers don't have to be your audience
HOW DID THAT WORK OUT FOR YOU NIGGERFAGGOTS
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>>737184861
>blood of dawnwalker
>valor mortis
>witcher 4
>Cyberpunk 2
>dying light the beast
>lords of the fallen 2 (this one actually looks good)
>Gears of War: E-Day
>tainted grail
>starrupture
>mouse PI for hire
>cronos

+ few other big projects and bunch of cool indies came out/ are coming out from Poland alone in recent times

Central/Eastern European devs are doing good.
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>>737184861
Better no games than woke games. There's more than enough vidya coming from Asia with the biggest country there really only just getting started. It's fine if the western game industry mostly disappears. It was fun while it lasted but that fun has been gone for over a decade at this point.
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>>737185013
The western industry especially American, not the Asian. Just like the crash in 1980s. Asians were not affected by the crash, only USA was.
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>>737186489
ETS2 is trucking along just fine and that's enough for me.
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>>737185013
You know the old saying, if you truly love something, shoot in the fucking head with buckshot and hope that it survives and recovers to be less retarded, or something like that.
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FUCKING BASED FUCK THE US ESPECIALLY COMMIEFORNIA FOR RUINING THE INDUSTRY FOR ALL THESE YEARS
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>>737186489
Eastern Europe is okay and they're the only yurops that make good games.
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GOOD
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Line will keep going down until morale improves
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>>737186225
I can see that happening. They could be small enough where they just let them continue doing their thing but on a smaller budget.
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>>737186597
The Gears of war devs are based in canada
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>>737184861
>looking to leave the industry due to hardship
So they were never in it for the craft? If they genuinely cared about the medium they'd fight tooth and nail to keep their positions. I say good riddance to everyone who jumped in because it was trendy or a viable vehicle for their personal agendas.
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>>737186861
ur right, PCF is only co-deving it with the Canadian team
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>>737184861
Does it impact Japan? If not, then I don't care. Westoid Triple A gaming is dead, the only Western video games worth caring about are indie games.
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>>737186784
Clockwork Revolution looks promising but I think you simply don't do well anymore like the big publishers expect you to because shit's fucked and the digital vidya ecosystem is mature so the real consumer base have backlogs that let them buy games on their own schedule.
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>>737187172
It might impact Japan insofar as a bunch of their fuckawful translation teams will all get laid off, but that's a good thing.
I think we'll see a lot of those larger Jap companies following in Squeenix's footsteps where they layoff their localization team and start contracting out to that Japanese AI translation company, I think they're called Mantra.
It's a sad state of affairs, but I cannot think of a group of people that deserves to be destitute and homeless for refusing to properly do their jobs more than English localizers.
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>>737185013
the industry is shit
worked in it for a couple months, you know those documentaries where anime is drawn by people who are getting paid pennies and living on pure enthusiasm and cup ramen until they burn the fuck out? that's the gaming industry in spades, managers are treating everyone like slaves and throwing a tantrum when anyone dares to point it out
good fucking riddance
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Can't wait for more AI frame gen DEI hire slop from jeetcoders who will just make shit that fails on launch and servers close on day 3!!!
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>>737185013
I already got more games than I can play in my lifetime. I can take or leave new slop
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>>737187505
>DEVS ARENT PAID ENOUGH

ok....

*moves all dev work to india/indonesia*
It's what you want?
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>games will be made by people who like games, not retarded faggots with agendas and DEI hires
oh no, how terrible
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>>737185013
What's your point?
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>>737185272
>I like real video games, from Europe or Asia.
>Europe
I love paying taxes so the EU can fund companies not in the EU to make such frickin awesome games
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>>737185013
I like good games. I like games where thought and effort were put into making them. I despise AAA gaming that's high on it's own farts and refuses to stop trying to insert modern politics into the thing I'm using to get away from modern politics. People have been voting with their wallets and I'm glad to see it's finally having an impact. If we want good games again, we're going to have to endure the next few years of nothing before a crop of decent studios can come back.
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>>737187505
It's typical market economics shit. If one company convinces 100 people to crunch while making garbage and makes money from it, they all have to do it to be competitive. It's why they raged at BG3. When one company makes it, 1000 others have to cut corners to meet the same targets. Instead games like undertale, mewgenics, e33, balatro, hollow knight etc. prove that targets don't matter, soul and fun matter.
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>>737185013
For good games to be made, the retarded, incompetent parasitic clowns that overtook the gaming industry have to be laid off and returned to their rightful calling of sucking dick on street corners
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>>737184861
The mega studios need to die. They generate the least number and lowest quality of games for the money. It's all repetitive samey safe slop. The best games were made by small studios of highly talented people working efficiently on a shared passion.
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>>737187795
They can't hire 100 trannies in a major city and pay them 120k+ a year ....
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>>737185013
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what is stopping american devs from moving studios out of overtaxed, high CoL californian shithole cities and moving to some cheap midwestern city
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>>737187743
the pay was decent, in a vaccuum
the problem was that they tried to make 30 people do the work of 120, and bragged about it too, so you didn't have time to do shit with that pay
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>>737188110
Those cheap midwestern cities would just become expensive, overtaxed, high CoL shithole cities just like the Cali cities were in the span of a few years.
Just look at what's currently happening in Texas, Georgia, and North Carolina.
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>>737187341
Yeah, The studio head is bullish on their time travel reactivity and believes that them being ambitious and unique will help sell their game. Gonna have to wait and see it works out
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>>737188313
Someone has to pay for all the browns
Called progress
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>>737185245
sad
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>>737185013
Westerners are killing the gaming industry so the sooner they die the better.
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>>737188313
If i lived in the Midwest I'd be pissed about a bunch of libtard game devs from commiefornia moving to my state.
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>>737185272
Eurangutan slop is more pozzed than amerimutt slop desu
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>>737188110
Fuck off we're full.
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>>737186684
^ This. This is great news. Maybe they'll get replaced by people who make products for the audience that actually wants them.
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>>737188010
BAAAAASEEEED SANIC GAWDS
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Most of the games / series I enjoy the most are likely to be unaffected but I still don't like what this portends. Sometimes I can't help but feel like the world is rotting around me and this is just another example
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>>737188520
>the audience that actually wants them
Who is that? Certainly can't be chuds, y'all just post steamcharts all day
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What was the last Western game that was actually a big success?
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>>737188585
>Who is that?
Me of course.
The rest of you fags will be in the unemployment line.
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>>737188408
I'd teach them to fish and switch them from boba latte to beer.
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>>737188654
The yearly call of duty
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>>737188654
i dnno i only play dota 2
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>>737188654
Ball's Gay 3 I guess. But that was a early access hell and it's still blatantly unfinished. Won't be replicating that shit.
Also Kingdom Cum in Men 2 tricked a bunch of Chuds into buying it but it barely broke even if at all and Warhorse is already whored out and underwater.
There's also Helldivers 2 but that fucked the dog because devs are idiots.
And finally E33 which is a fake indie with 500 outsourced employees and a huge nepobaby budget.

And uhh that's it. The rest are flops or small games.
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>Who is that? Certainly can't be chuds, y'all just post steamcharts all day
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>>737184861
Thank fucking god.

Western AAA has been putting out nothing but irredeemable trash for more than a decade.
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>>737187505
Literally any other industry treats devs better than games
Get in, have fun, but don't make it a career
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>>737188654
BF6 was the highest selling game in the series. A lot of that success is probably due to last year's CoD sucking ass.
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>>737185013
I do, I just hate agendas and sjws with a burning passion
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>>737185013
>gaming will go back to people who like games making games
Oh no!
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>>737188945
This has been known since gaming became an industry and game dev became a job new graduates wanna apply for
Gaman has shit working conditions and pay because YOU GET TO WORK FOR VIDYA OMG
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>>737187908
targets do matter to investors though and at least in the US companies have a legal obligation to increase their profits in order to earn money for their investors. it's not enough for them to make a game that sells well - they have to continually increase their performance so that their stock price continues to go up.
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>>737188870
>with 500 outsourced employees
At least be honest when criticising the game. You can call it a fake-indie nepobaby game, without going full retard.
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>>737185045
then stop being a missionary for political correctness, you don't give a fuck about families, jobs or any of it, everything you do is to appease your cult to own the chuds, thats your entire identity and everything is downwind of that absolutely everything, money is secondary, your families lives, third, nothing comes before making sure you shove your activism down everyones throats.
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I cannot fucking wait for the Bungie mass layoffs
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>>737188945
wrong, you have never worked in science
t. phd in physics, specifically on plasma, it's the same shit but you don't even get paid
though it is more fun than gamedev
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>>737185013
I like video games, that's why I hate western developers
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>>737189129
He said devs you fucking niggerretard
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>>737184861
>recent study shows many gamedevs are looking for work due to being laid off
This is.....news?
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>>737188110
That could fix part of one of the issues with AAA game development: The cost. But maybe a bigger issue related to these layoffs is that a bunch of companies overhired during Covid and lockdowns. Both game developers and investors thought lockdowns would become a new normal and threw an ass load of money into future game projects. A lot of those projects are now finally launching and dying.

That brings up the other issue with not just AAA game development, but almost all game development: It takes too long. The minimum development time for a AAA game these days is like 5 years. That's too long to try and jump on trend as those come and go in a few years at best. This is also a problem with AA and indie games. Even though the teams and budgets around those are smaller, games like E33, Slay the Spire 3, Silksong, etc all took 5+ years. And two of those were iterative sequels, not new IPs.

IMO, there's an even bigger fundamental problem with video games these days: There are too many of them with too much content. In an era where Fortnite, despite earning billions per year on content, can't maintain its audience, and Roblox pumps out endless free games, but can't be profitable, and Steam is flooded with tens of thousands of games, but 2/3rds never make enough to cover the Steam publishing fee, there is a clear oversupply of Video Games and not enough consumers to consume them.

This is not to say there still won't be growth or video games are gonna crash, but it does mean that limited growth will go into fewer games and studios, to fewer winners, while prices for the games themselves will become ever more competitive, putting greater pressure on studio finances, depressing the individual economic incentive to work in video games and pushing out more talent.

But that is exactly what's needed to readjust the industry to fit the new economic conditions. Less hiring, lower wages, and longer hours. Or just quit.

Adapt or die.
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>>737189167
Oh yeah? we'll I'm a cleaner and I make money.
Think about that.
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>>737184861
They deserve it for the wokeness. Notice this isn't happening to a single good studio.
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>>737189167
you have to program quite a bit in science too, for data collection and analysis
it's mostly python but still
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>>737189069
Oh my bad, nigger. It's not 500 it's 412
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>>737189250
A cleaner what?
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>>737184861
Not my problem.
Look at this Diana
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They won't be able to feed their families but at least they owned da choods.
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>>737185013
>I thought you liked video games?
I know this is just a bait, but still, fuck off newfag
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>>737189264
Do you create software to be sold?
>no you don't understand, lawyers are software devs because my lawyer friend wrote a script to organize his folders
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>>737184861
>New study / experts say / [demographic] are saying (I mean myself) / recent survey

>Near-majority
So not a majority then?
>Are looking to leave
Like any disgruntled employee "looks to leave" their job but doesn't
>Due to mass layoffs
Well they aren't going to need to bother "looking to leave" for long are they?
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>>737189323
Based
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>>737184861
We really need to crack down on piracy, its ruining the future of gaming.
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>>737189215
The too long thing is definitely true, all these companies jumped on the hero shooter train when shit like Overwatch and Apex were at their peak, but they took so long to make that the genre stopped being popular enough to support all those games.
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>>737185556
It's stale but still edible.
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>>737189551
It's just endlessly funny to me that it's impossible to experience a franchise during your childhood as a zoomer. Back in my day we could expect a sequel in 2 years, nowadays they become adults and have a family by the time the second game of a franchise comes out
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>>737185013
Theres like 20-30 videogames in the past two years alone I've written down to play and involve my time in. I love vidya but the modern gaming, movie, TV and animation industry needs to die for its own good.
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>>737189541
piracy is a complete non-issue, you know as well as i the political activism and hiring people whose job it is to sell that activism has been done by absurd hiring practices and now the industry is full of people with no talent and the only thing they know how to do is re-skin their ideology they can't make anything new because they aren't creative people, at their core they are religious fundamentalists and that is the antithesis to making somehting valuable.
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>>737189656
When I was into Zelda back in the day the wait for TP seemed like it was forever, now that would be a short cycle.
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>>737185013
-I do like video games.
-I couldn't be happier
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>>737184861
Good. It's been a real shitshow since 2019 or even earlier.
Nothing but brainless copying and trend chasing which has technically gotten worse and worse throughout the years.
I don't understand how this is even possible.
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>>737188110
The rest of their polycule is stuck in Commiefornia, and they have to be physically present to prep the bull
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>>737188110
Because if you follow this thinking to its logical conclusion, the answer is to move out of overtaxed, high CoL countries entirely. And so the entire industry moves to China, Korea, and Japan, where devs are paid like shit and regularly work 50+ hours per week, or 72 hours during crunch time.
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>>737185013
holy newfag
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>>737185013
I like GOOD videogames, the studios hit most by the layoffs are the giga bloated AAA tumors. Veilguard, a game that had 70k players at launch was considered a layoff-inducing slop because of how bloated its budget was, it's fucking ridiculous and the faster the industry gets a hard reset the better. In the meantime I mostly play indie or AA games which are mostly unaffected by the layoffs bullshit anyway.
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>>737185013
games now are made by suits, diversity hires, outsourced jeets that do soulless shit and women hired just so they don't have children
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>>737189306
I sweep sweep.
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AND YOU'RE LAUGHING
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>>737188110
Because without a "prestigious" location, how will the psychopaths in suits circlejerk with other psychos and satiate their egos? Not to mention having access to literal slaves who will crunch as many hours as you demand, because despite making six figures they are still living paycheck to paycheck and losing the job can mean they will end up homeless and without insurance.
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>>737185013
>hire a bunch of retards
>retards can't release good products
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>>737188110
nobody wants to live in shitholes so you run into a talent acquisition problem.
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>>737190263
>And so the entire industry moves to China, Korea, and Japan, where devs are paid like shit and regularly work 50+ hours per week
And then the industry collapses because the westerners no longer have money to buy western games and the Chinese, Korean, and Japanese devs they outsource to continue to not buy western games because they don't like western games anyways and they have their own domestic industry that's far more suited to their tastes and arguably better in general anyways.
Kind of like what's happening in a lot of western industries right now, like cars.
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Good.

Western developers don't make games for normal people anymore.
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>>737185045

I'm happy the shittiest feminist religious cult in all of human history is getting punished

>>737185013
this - also the replies ITT give me hope masculinity and reason are finally making a come back - women are fucking terrible and destroying the west
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>>737185013
I don't even remember when is the last time I played a western game.
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>>737188654
Starfield
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>>737190834
>give me hope masculinity and reason are finally making a come back
there's nothing more cringe than a balding millennial fat fuck nerd whining about masculinity on an anime forum.
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>>737185013
Burning a branch can save a tree.
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>>737185013
Good games will still be made, I am absolutely cheering on the death of AAA bloat. Additionally, even if games just stopped being made tomorrow cold turkey, I could play exclusively good games till I die of old age just with what's already been released. The kinds of games that are failing are live service slop like highguard and concord, the kinds of developers getting laid off are pronouns and flags in bio weirdos who have shown open unchecked disdain for people who play video games despite getting a job in video games for some reason.

As far as I'm concerned, what's happening is pure unfiltered karma.
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>>737184861
>Westen gaming industry is about to die
That was the objective.
>>737185013
>I thought you liked video games?
I did, before feminism/woke destroyed everything.
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>>737190895
And the next one will most likely be the elder scrolls 6
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>>737184861
This sounds like good news?
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>>737185013
I do like video games. I'm playing Pragmata right now and I'm gonna buy Onimusha later.
Western slop is boring as fuck though. Euros make better games anyway.
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>>737189551
I feel like movie games are heading the same direction. Sony is stagnating hard because moviegames were not, in fact, the future of gaming as an art form as faggots who sniffed their own farts liked to talk during the PS3/PS4 era. Killing Japan Studios had dire consequences for the diversity of their output, now all of their eggs are in the Horizon and The Last of Us baskets, and fewer and fewer people give a shit. The rumor of them abandoning PC releases was met with a lot of discussion about whether or not it was worth releasing the games, but it was not met with anyone lamenting not being able to play the latest moviegame. Nobody cares anymore. It came and went. Ghost of Yotei and Intergalactic are not gonna sell a single PS5 to a PC gamer.
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>Massively overhire during coof
>Also hire a metric ton of worthless DEI positions
>Money dries up
>Everyone gets fired
Good.
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50% (or more) of the western studios workers are women and DEI hires who dont know how to code and have overbloated salaries.
For what a karen in HR or the "writing" team gets paid you could hire a dozen of asian developers.
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This is sad.

But are you sure you aren't overreacting a bit? Like it's dying? Like you can keep the stupidity to /pol/ please?
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>>737185419
I like them but if Clockwork doesn't hit microsoft's autistic goals they are donezo.
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>>737190232
Didn't one of these try to murder her baby?
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China won.

China fucking won.
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>>737184861
Apologize NOW!
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>>737190737
Honestly it'd be weird if the western industry didn't crash, because the western middle class that's supposed to buy these kind of expensive premium entertainment products gets smaller and poorer every year. While the Chinese middle class keeps growing and getting richer, and their total population is higher than US+EU combined. That's what the western lead in everything is based on anyway, the big wealthy consumer base. In everything from personal motor vehicles to refrigerators to video games.

So yeah, if our whole society is decaying into post-Soviet Russia then of course we're going to be making Russian-quality products with Russian-tier efficiency, and only buying them at Russian prices. And then when some Asian studio puts out a AAA quality game at a fraction of the cost, western journalists look at it like pic related. lol
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>>737185013
>I thought you liked video games?
We're not the target audience, why should we be sad?
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>>737191390
If the Microsoft studio that made this is already hiring ppl for their next project even tho it was a failure then I think inxile will be just fine
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The economy is one bad day away from crumbling, this mass firing of devs is just one of the many warning signals
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>>737191496
>even gave a 2 year estimate
https://x.com/Jonathan_Blow/status/1749615427708199077
kek, can't say he isn't smart
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>>737191642
good, maybe america itself can crumble away with it
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>>737191642
yes devs being fired surely is due to economic problems and not their gaes being dogshit and not selling or anything
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I'm reminded of Asscreed Shadows credits being 2 fucking hours long and full of Indian names. Let it burn.
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>>737191618
>If the Microsoft studio that made this is already hiring ppl for their next project
Anon, Compulsion Games got hit with layoffs just last year.
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>>737191471
China won by doing nothing, as usual
The surge in gacha games popularity (in the west) is due to how miserable and propagandistic western releases have been for the past decade
Videogames are for entertaining and evasion, if you try to shove kike poison down the consumers throats even normalfags would have enough at some point
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>>737184861
nerds like Carmack built the industry, but once jews smelled there was a lot more money to be made with normie stuff like cod and fifa, gaming went from a hobby and passion projects for gamers by gamers to money-milking schemes for the retarded masses by boards of cynical investors running billion-dollar corporations. culture war only accelerated the downfall, greed was the thing that was slowly killing the westoids from 2005. those retarded masses won't buy your shitty AAA games filled with ugly trannies and nigger once shit hits the fan irl, they'll spend it on other things instead. they were never into it for the love of the game.
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>>737191815
china always loses eventually, 99% of times caused by themselves somehow

they are a economic powerhouse at the moment but have a completely fucked up population pyramid
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>waah the work too hard
>mean fucking while game devs are some of the highest paid jobs out there
yeah, i'm thinking not my problem. earn your wage just like everyone else
if you're complaining you're paid low in QA, then that's just an even bigger YOU problem
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>>737191815
Chinese games are censored. For starters no nudity. It's like a worse version of wokism.
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>>737185013
They did when they were young. Then they found out a company did it for money instead of to make them happy. Now they are in an eternal struggle against companies producing profitable games and anybody who buys games and thinks they can talk about what games they like while the war rages on.
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>>737191795
A few weeks ago I saw reporting that they hired some people, Probably the same people they fired last year
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>>737189024
>publicly trader companies crash and burn because investors are trend chasing retards who can only see one fiscal quarter at a time
>private companies and indie devs with passion for their craft thrive in the vacuum
Sounds like a win/win for anyone who actually gives a fuck about vidya, dev and player alike
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>>737191975
Yeah yeah, China is about to colapse in two weeks sure
Thats why the US is losing their shit trying to block Chinq from getting oil and gas, cutting ties with every nation and risking a WW3, because China is about to colapse
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>>737185013
Yes, that's exactly why I want the industry to die.
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>>737191948
Western studios need to bring back the 80's dei nerds
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>>737192109
No Man's Sky studio seems to be doing fine.
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>>737191975
>but have a completely fucked up population pyramid
Bro, that's every developed country, the west just props theirs up by importing brown people.
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>>737189287
>Oh my bad, nigger. It's not 500 it's 412
More like 42.
Why you'd count the contracted localization crews and the related Q&A as proper devs is beyond me.
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>>737191726
dogshit sells in a good economy and doesn't sell in a bad economy
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>>737191815
It's because the government which consists of paid welfare recipients and money printers buy out or infiltrate anything that might be slightly productive or profitable, obviously these mouth breathers are incapable of being productive themselves and so everything they end up touching turns to shit
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>>737184861
Fix that
>the American games industry is about to die
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>>737191975
>population pyramid
>just 200 more years, zeihan sisters
When the last cathedral in formerly white country is demolished, went the official language of america is spanish, when your last descendant is grinded into a kebab, China will still have 500 million people MORE than your entire hemisphere combined https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoUJbucXQpo
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>>737192191
They learned the hard way about the price of dealing with the devil when sony bent them over a table and fucked them raw
It took them a long time to rebuild their reputation from that
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>>737191975
>a completely fucked up population pyramid
this is nonsense spouted by the epstein class because they need more slaves to exploit and rape
the world is overcrowded and the population needs to shrink
it's not 1300 and we don't need masses of peasants in order to feed a disproportionately large population of boomers
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>>737192306
>This is across Europe, North America, the UK, APAC, and MENA
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>>737185013
Maybe they should mak good games?
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>people are losing their jobs and you're laughing about it!
Quite
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>>737192313
Are you legit a seething chink?
Why the fuck are you here
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>>737192173
this was probably the smartest nigga in america that year. america stopped caring about meritocracy a long time ago.
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>>737185013
the bloat is dying
about fucking time they noticed that multimillion mega projects that take almost a fucking decade to produce is just not sustainable, especially when the deliver a subpar, neutered and almost on-rails experience
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>>737192337
But they did and aren't disappearing just as a myriad of indie studios.

Can we conclude there might be a correlation for the wester industry involving AAA studios and not a complete death or involving the whole industry? Or everything has to be like in /pol/ here?
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>>737184861
>make good games
>don't hire people with no talent or love for the medium
Why is this so hard for Western devs to understand?
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>>737192208
>why did you count their outsourced employees as outsourced employees?
beats me
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>>737187908
>listing the french freemason game along with games made but actual humans
ngmi
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>>737192208
Kill yourself you retarded nigger, they hired half of south asian sweatshops for animations and coding
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>>737192173
Where's the hundreds of danger haired white women and their starbucks cups?? ughhh...
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>>737184861
I'm a programmer and i don't get how game devs can work this slow. If it's voice acting, motion capture, etc. that takes the majority of their time they should start skipping it.
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>>737192506
Western devs genuinely hate gamers, so it's less about providing games people want to play and more about making shit that shits on "the chud gamers."
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>>737192382
Quiet amerimulatto, it's time to get drafted, shlomo needs cannon fodder
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>>737185013
Yeah, that's why we're cheering the destruction of an industry that doesn't produce games but casinos disguised as video games, and the few ones that ain't casinos are muh the message slop.
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>>737192543
it's not the programmers in game studios that slow down game dev, it's asset creation and horrible manager layers
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>>737192382
>NO NO NO HOW DARE YOU BUST MY COPE CRUST
lol
The sooner you wake up the sooner you'll stop drinking poison while hoping the nation you hate dies from it. This misery is yours, stop trying to share it and project it.
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>>737190939
your cult is dying, faggot - go take some more pills or go pray to your therapist
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>>737192313
and libshits say we need more public transit after they do this to cities

>>737192347
I think its things that our rulers actually believe
They import browns to "fix the population pyramid" like that shit matters..
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>>737192465
Sure, but for every hello games theres a dozen second and third party developers who were abused into the grave by their investors and their corpse sold for scraps
There are simply no repercussions for doing this in the US, and even if there were they have an army of lawyers to cover them
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>>737184861
>honeymoon period long over
>studios all turning into sweatshops
>studios putting out flop after flop
>shitloads of money blown on mediocre titles
>developers know full well the old era of "making cool games" is long dead and everything is hyper corporate garbage
>can't find consistent work because management can't unfuck their shit
>"fuck this, I'm taking my skills to another industry"
I don't blame them.
Same shit happened here with software, the whole "just pay jeets to do it" thing ended up fucking a lot of people out of work, followed up with even dumber shit like "you need 10 years experience with this library that's been out for 3, and you're only getting a Jr. salary for the work of 3 people".
Most people I worked with ended up going into different stuff looking for people with technical skills, and haven't looked back since.
t. former developer with years of experience in C/C++ and network admin now doing remote security development (cameras n shit), couldn't pay me enough to go back to webshit
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>>737192694
Nothing brings me more joy than watching cultist relics collapse in real time, I didn't know I needed this.
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>>737184861
>44% of devs arelooking to leave due to
Trooning out.
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>>737184861
>Let china "invest" via blackrock in vidya industry
>Ruins it
>Shows up with their astroturfs "only made my small team gwelio! We so much better!" (Hides costs behind CCP, BG3 10+ years, E33 8 minutes of outsourcing credits)
>WHY YOU SO BAD GWELIO!?
Enjoy your wuxiaslop and endless gacha /v/. You did nothing and lost.
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>>737192102
>For starters no nudity. It's like a worse version of wokism.

oh no your degenerate gooning is lost - so much worse!! disgusting tranny
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>>737192895
>China is lying and faking everything!
>thats why everything is made there now

Or they simply do things better at 1/4 or less of the cost... Same reason the cost of living is very cheap there and everyone owns their home...

Delusional westoids in an era of decline
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>>737185045
cry more bitch
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>>737192987
>Or they simply do things better at 1/4 or less of the cost
They don't. The government just subsidizes the cost, which is why they are panicking and buying precious metals right now.
But you know that, wumao
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>>737192543
>i don't get how game devs can work this slow

because every time they object to dysfunction they are veto'd and shamed for trying to assert objective reality into the cult hive mind
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>>737185013
Not poopy stinky woke DEI slop
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>>737192987
>and everyone owns their home...
Actual lie. All property is leased from the CCP
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>>737192916
Not fitting in at all Li, you are a soulless bugman
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>>737192895
wow so everything is actually all a huge conspiracy by china, huh? poor innocent wall street and california are just the victims of the great red menace? you've really opened my eyes
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>>737192895
>even when Larry skullfucks the western goyim through his eye, he will still find a way to seethe at State Department's chosen enemy of the decade (China for now)
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>all of the top devs in america haven't made a good game in 15 years
>all of the top devs in japan haven't made a good game in 15 years
>litterally only eastern european and korean games are good now
It's nobody's fault but microsoft, nintendo, and sony.
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>>737193059
>hasbara projects his own tactics onto imaginary wumaos
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>>737192895
Hilarious how the second you bring this up the thread is FULL of chinese state agents crying and deflecting.

100% proof they're behind western DEI
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>>737185013
Too many cooks with no passion for the work.
They can technically do their jobs, but they're at risk because they're not particularly good at it.
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>>737192895
>blackrock bees chinra
How do circumcised autistics like you even manage to post
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Bunch of unemployed bums in this thread.
And then they'll refer this situation to DEI slop, throwing those words without any valid examples.
Bunch of fucking sheep using that term
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>>737192102
>Never seen a single chink gacha before
anon...
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>>737193127
Muttoid cope, they don't pay property taxes in china

Go pay for shlomo and tyrones welfare americuck lel
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>>737193139

better shove another handful of pills down your throat then!
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>>737192465
Let's see how well they sell day one of their next big game before we declare their reputation is rehabilitated. Being willing to fix your shit game is okay to be known for but being willing to release a shit game is a stain which is hard to wash off.
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>>737192543
Mostly assets.
There's some exceptions however, MS has been fucking up with their more directly managed game studios for a while.
During the development of Halo Infinite, developers were swapped in and out due to their 6 month contract policy that by the end, no one had any clue how the codebase worked.
Imagine your codebase getting so spaghetti-fucked that adding a playlist to matchmaking is considered a nearly impossible task.
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>>737193250
Your slop flopped
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>>737193250
>without any valid examples

every single place a woman is working or managing or directing is the example - so literally every western corp - your lies are so fucking terrible and pathetic now - everyone see's it now...
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>>737185013
We do like games, just not pozzed dei slop from western developers. That takes a decade to make, and is still crap even when it is released.
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>Indians scamming jobs
>Chinese scamming vidya
Just nuke Asia
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>>737185013
i do. the people that make games don't.
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>>737193127
Goy projection. Try not paying your taxes in the west, see what happens.
China has "nail houses" because the government couldn't move these boomers. Westerners don't.

In China the Chinese government that represents the nation owns the land.
In goyland the highest bidder that has no loyalty to the nation owns the land (Larry Fink, Stephen Schwarzman, Bill Gates etc.) You've been brainwashed to bat for billionaire ownership - not average poorfag ownership.
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>>737193327
>They don't own their home, the government does
>Muttoid cope, they don't pay property taxes in china
You didn't exactly say why he was wrong.
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>>737193250
You lost troon, we only wanted to play games
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>>737184861
>Western industry about to die
>MENA and APAC
do you know what those two terms mean?
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>>737193586
He's a wumao. China actually spends money shilling on /v/.
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>>737192519
Does the janitor also count?
>>737192526
>they hired half of south asian sweatshops for animations and coding
Not even 10 Koreans.
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>>737184861
>We won bros!
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>>737193662
china derangement syndrome
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>>737193216
Yep. See >>737193523
Sweet Baby is Canadian company that takes government money. Now take a guess at which country Canada loves to take money from.
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>>737193216
>pic
Game? Want to check the discussion.
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>>737193681
those guys look happier than anyone i've seen in the united states for a long time
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>>737184861
Good, indies and AAs will take over. Smart AAA will convert to indie or AA or they will die. Nintendo, Valve, and Sony Japan won. Microsoft lost.
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>>737192895
that's just cope lmao. what's preventing americans from making their own takes on e33 and bg3 with similar business models? even chink gachas have certain red lines they cannot cross, which is not the case with western studios. it's fucking pathetic we allowed chinks to just take all that easy coomer money from the table with their safe horny designs. I still hope out of tens of thousands of laid-off devs in the west there will be some who will start their own companies and gather around certain winning strategies. I view the big crash in the 80s as a ground zero from which came the golden age of vidya in the 90s.
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>>737193695
literally no one likes you chang. you give yourself away the second you promote ANYTHING chinese
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>>737193059
>The government just subsidizes the cost
Ur retarded if you think that china subsidizes exports
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>>737185045
lol
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>>737193580
>the Chinese government that represents the nation
>one party state
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TOTAL

GLOBOHOMO

BANKRUPTCY

SOOOOOOON
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>>737192347
You can’t just go from 1.4 billion to 500 million people in less than a century and think your economy won’t collapse.
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>>737189656
People are growing up and having kids waiting for the last chapter of a game who's demo released eight years ago lmao.
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>>737193813
why wouldn't they? their entire economy depends on it
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>>737193580
it's so funny that you take any criticism of china as an implicit defense of various american corruptions, as if having a nuanced opinion is impossible. go away, shill. you're as obvious as they come
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>>737193662
>>737193586
Go pay taxes to shlomo circumcised baldy cuck and don't forget to take trumps booster
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>>737193758
They're happy about not having to play western movie games anymore.
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>>737185013
> industry = video games
Uhmmm, no?
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>>737193913
>Go pay taxes
Sorry, I'm not a communist.
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>>737193806
Shlomo posting from the cuckbunker
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>>737185045
Are you gunna be on top or do you want it doggy style?
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>>737185013
I do, but as an American, it's time to face facts, we can't make home consoles, we never could. We can make gaming PCs and that's it, our specialties are being indies and AA studios, we were never meant to make home consoles or go beyond AA. Console should only be made by the Japanese, they know what they're doing, they know that indies and AA games are the lifeblood of the industry. Nintendo, Valve, and Sony Japan understand the industry, Atari didn't, Microsoft doesn't.
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TOTAL WESTERN UNEMPLOYMENT
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>>737185013
The games I like aren't going to disappear, and as of late they keep only making games I don't like.
If the industry crashes, at worst I'll lose out on the games I'm anticipating but have no release date for, and for me there's no must-buy day-one games announced for release in 2026.
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>>737193913
you're a state media insect forced to promote your shithole 2nd world nation on the most garbage imageboard on the internet. stay mad.
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>>737184861
No, this means the current gaming companies of the west are suffering hard times.
It could mean a rebirth, it could mean a death. It could mean a lot of things; but for certain it only means that big gaming companies are laying employees off
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>>737193662
Is them getting this pissed off about things part of a script, or literally just them losing their shit?
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>>737194003
I for one look forward to a future in which every western creative is completely unemployed.
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>>737193959
So you're a shlomo, expected as much, you're the most disgusting and ugly creature in existence but keep coping lel
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>>737185013
Yeah that's why I'm happy the video game industry is dying.
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>>737185419
If it's owned by Microsoft, you should give up on it.

>>737186025
This, glad Valve is fixing their damage.
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>>737185045
4chan is indeed an endless pot of cynicism, but I do agree with you, nothing good comes of this. And also paraphrase that ratatouille quote
>The only thing more worthless than a terrible game is it's criticism
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>>737193667
>>Does the janitor also count?
yeah, of course - it's a company trying to understate its size to look "more indie" than it really is
if they have such a large office they had to hire their own janitors, they're not exactly a scrappy little passion project, are they?
actual indie teams are eager to count every receptionist and HR lady as a team member to make themselves look BIGGER
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>>737194003
>fun
>interesting
>mutually exclusive
What a pudgy possibly-jewish retard
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>>737194041
Chinks have no chill at all due to communist rule. That's why they are literal bugs.
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>>737185013
Yes.
That's why I'm happy.
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>>737194041
It's a societal requirement. Not being angry at someone questioning or bad mouthing the CCP would decrease their social credit.
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>>737194117
>if they have such a large office they had to hire their own janitors, they're not exactly a scrappy little passion project, are they?
Never said they were. But the contracted localizers and proof reading, aren't fucking game devs.
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>>737194012
Lol circumcised poojoo seething as its welfare dries up and it has to eat canned dogfood to survive
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>>737184861
Hopefully they're moving on to shit they actually care about
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>>737193890
Delusional
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>>737193832
You voted for one of the two zionist puppets that said "no new wars". He started WW3.
Europeans vote for based right wingers like Farage, Meloni and Wilders because they keep promising to stop immigration. As soon as they win they go kiss the wall and import half of Delhi.

Of what use is your democracy if it doesn't represent the people?
Of what use are your fractured parties if they all lie to you?
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>>737189215
You're right anon but the issue is the industry will never accept the solution: more focused games with smaller budgets, shorter development times at a lower price point. For whatever reason, everyone in the industry wants to make bigger and bigger games and pray for a massive payout. No one is willing to do the smaller but more consistently achievable profits. End result is the whole thing collapses. It could be good but there is a real possibility that the number of games that come out just shrinks forever and there is never a real recovery
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>>737194159
They also can't post on western internet sites without being licensed by the state to spread propaganda. And they're so stupid, they keep giving away the plot
>>737194003
>>737194092
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>>737188870
so only euro games lmao americuck is done for
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>>737193859
you don't have a single logical reason to believe that
an economy can shrink just as well as it can grow, because ultimately, it's just a system that serves the needs of the population
the survivors' standard of living got much higher when a third of europe died in the black death
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>>737194159
Lol you lost circumcised muttoid, you're too dumb to win on any front, be in in war or economically
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>>737185013
I like good videogames.
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>>737194269
You're getting fired.
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>>737187908
Every single one of those indie games you listed fucking sucks stop pushing terrible games as some kind of religious savior.

The second worst thing in the industry is hipster indie trash that plays like 35 year old games.
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>>737194275
EU is in bed with the CCP Belt & Road. Their games are also a chinese scam.
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>>737193906
people might have taken that as a nuanced opinion if it had been one, but it wasn't
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>>737194236
I dnno how westoids see the last 100+ years of our "democracies" or "republics" and think its a desirable form of government
Fucking boomers voting for the guy with better hair for decades
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>>737185272
>Europe
lmao
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>>737194098
>t. communist
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>>737194342
You were never employed
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Western games have been complete bullshit for years. Thank God
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>>737193859
When China had 500 million people they defeated SEATO and then built nukes.

When you replace 200 americans with 300 indians, do you think your economy will improve?
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>>737194342
And you're running out of oil. Keep wasting money on sites like this. People are noticing.
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>>737190895
Starfield was a failure you delusional retard.
It underperformed at launch. Nothing else matters to these corporate ratshiteaters.

It also sucked ass which is not a success by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>737193984
Oh shut the fuck up, the Microsoft 360 was a perfectly fine console that absolutely stomped on the PS3 for most of that particular console generation. I normally don't engage in bitching about the zoomzooms or anyone who comes after them, but for fuck's sake stop being so retarded.
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>>737194236
US
>I want to vote for this guy
>that's a stupid choice
China
>I want to vote-
>*dies*
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>>737194496
Saarfield did far better than Tencent Gate 3
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>>737194442
Oil is a global market, you want it you pay for it...
Where it comes from is irrelevant
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>>737184861
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>CCP has to buy their own games to fake success
lel keep spending money on Concords tho
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>>737194543
What kind of point are you trying to make? That getting to feel like you're voting is better than knowing you don't get a vote at all?
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>>737191815
>China won by doing nothing, as usual
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>>737194406
i'd rather be a commie than a jew
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>>737194543
US
>Last white man in the neighborhood
>Thank God for the constitution and democracy
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>>737192313
>>Delusional, seething chingchongwingwong.
You keep thinking that, Chang, when the PRC finally collapses, I'll remember posts like this and laugh.
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>>737192102
>Chinese games are censored.
Maybe for a time.
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>>737194637
>Spends trillions >>737194442
>Still can't make games themselves >>737194616
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>>737194406
I'd rather be a communist than a Jew-worshiping Baizuo.
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weird that the anti-china brigade showed up to spam this thread to death after a couple people spoke positively of china in comparison to the west
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>>737185013
I like GOOD video games. What was the last good game the west ever made? TF2?
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>>737192102
>mfw the glowies are trying to say Chinese games are more censored than American games
Motherfucker have you seen the women they've got in ZZZ?
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>>737194763
weird there'd be a pro-china brigade on an american website at all. care to explain?
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The only "western" dev still making GOTY level game is naughty dog and all of their games are retard movie slop.
Everything is euro now, hypercapitalism has failed video games.
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>>737194693
You know what? Some Chinese ppl aren't that bad.
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>>737185013
the western gaming space especially AAA can suck my nigger dick
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>>737192102
amerimutt, your games are both censored and woke as fuck, retarded troon
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>>737194442
Chinese ships are going through Hormuz. All ships that pay in Yuan go through Hormuz.

Chinese oil reserves are so big they export them to buy influence in SEA https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/energy/articles/china-sends-fuel-struggling-southeast-113000527.html

Chinese oil reserves are so big Bessent is kvetching about them hoarding it https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-treasurys-bessent-says-china-has-been-unreliable-partner-by-hoarding-oil-2026-04-14/

China doesn't even rely on oil as much as other US allied nations because China has surplus coal plants that are made specifically for crisis like these. They also have nuclear and renewable. You are just murdering the Japanese and Koreans with this war - they started begging Russia for oil. You also lifted sanctions on putler oil.

I dunno what to tell you. You killed your friends and then yourself.
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>>737194254
>the solution: more focused games with smaller budgets, shorter development times at a lower price point.
That's not the solution. There are TONS of those games on Steam that never make a profit. In fact, if you were to go calculate the probability of a game being a success based upon budget, I'd say the odds are better if the game has a AAA budget. Why? Because it's SO easy to make a video game these days. 100,000 people each making 1 indie game and maybe 1% will be successful. 100,000 people making 100 AAA games and I'd guess 25% of them would be successful.

>but there is a real possibility that the number of games that come out just shrinks forever and there is never a real recovery
I dunno. This seems like a good thing to me. Why does anyone need 10 Fortnites, 10 Genshins, 10 LoLs or 10 Counter-Strikes all competing in the market. Do you need Hollowknight 3, 4, 5, 6? Do you really want E33 Part 2, Part 3, Part 4?

Fewer games seems like a good thing to me, but the exact opposite will happen as improved technology has made video games easier to make than ever.
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>>737185013
It needs a hard reset. Most talk here is politically charged but my beef is just the industry refusing to hit the brakes when it needed to.

The gap between San Andreas and GTAIV was what, 4 years? IV and V had a 5 year gap, and now here comes VI with the gap between it and V being now already a couple of years longer than the gap between V and III. Bethesda has been open about Fallout 4 and ES6 being mid-2030s games from what I remember reading. I know Bananza is technically the new 3D Mario but it's also not. Leaks showed us Nintendo/GF barely funds their Pokémon projects. Square used to be able to pump out massive industry-rattling RPGs yearly, compare to how long the FFVII remake trilogy has been slogging towards completion since announcement.

There was a time when Duke Nukem Forever's development was a legendary anomaly, and now that's just fucking Tuesday for Kingdom Hearts. We went from games made by 30 in a year to games made by 3000 in 8 years.

The industry desperately needs a real reset. Like not some ethereal shit, we need to wake up one day and it hits us that oh fuck, its over. Like "Walmart no longer bothering to stock games" over. Let that simmer for a generation and then maybe, when we're crusty 65 year olds, we'll get to enjoy a miraculous renaissance of niche industry-esque AA games born from or in spite of however the indie scene and Chinese market develops.
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>>737194791
TF2 isn't a good game so no, it's fortnite with less skill.
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>>737194659
Gross thing is you are both. You are doing exactly what pic related wants and you are too stupid to even know who he is.
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>>737194406
>he thinks everyone fell for the le evil communism propaganda
You lost shlomo.
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>>737185013
we do
too bad they dont make videogames anymore
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>>737194763
Americans don't care how much you despise them as long as you're still playing by their rules, once you start asking why China isn't in charge then they get scared.
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>>737194907
Imagine being such broke ass bitches you have to pay an Islamic theocracy as a communist dictatorship to keep yourself energy positive
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>>737194616
>Chinese people buying Chinese game don't actually count
This is the saddest cope I've ever seen. Do you subtract all Americans any time a western game releases?
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>>737191410
Yeah, middle right
understandable
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>>737194763
It would happen less if the wumao weren't so easily baited.
You can literally drop 2 word replies and get 5-10 responses, shit's literally the easiest (you) farming.
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>>737194506
The 360 sped up the process on enshittifying the game's industry.
>killed family-friendly games
>killed quirky games
>killed experimental games
>killed Japanese games
>babified PC genres
>gutted western console developers
>the start of games needed to be hyper-realistic and serious with no colors with only graphics
>paid DLC
>continuation of paid online
>killing AA left and right to forcefully push AAA
>started the PC gaming is dead meme to get PC devs to make games for Xbox
>refused to advance the Xbox controller to feel like an extension of KB&M
>After Turok: Dinosaur Hunter made progress in finally bringing PC shooters to console with the N64, Microsoft threw that all away with Halo for the Xbox
>started game censorship and wokeness earlier than any game company
>was losing so hard against Sony that they wanted to buy off Nintendo and Valve because those two were kicking Microsoft's ass by keeping the old spirit of console and PC gaming alive
>Xbox was always a faulty piece of shit even the OG one from 2001
>fucked over third person shooters for many years
I honestly wish Sony didn't fuck up with the PS3, gaming wouldn't be in the shitter getting its repairs now if that didn't happen.
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>>737195010
Iran is based and they have their right to have their religion.
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>All the non-human devs are now going to go to other industries

Hope you're ready to pay for a battle pass to keep the brakes in your car functioning.
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>>737195019
>Chinese people buying Chinese game
>Government buying the game for them
Do you chinese propagandist wumao ever tell the truth?
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>>737184861
Honestly this is such a dumb survey, I'm sure every single person has thought about leaving their job, the question is if you can find something better than what you have. My job in finance has been getting worse and worse but it pays too well and the bosses are incompetent so they don't watch me not do my job. (175k/year, fully WFH, about eight hours of a work a week)

I still might leave though because I can't stand when they make me get on my knees and suck cock when they call me and make me listen to their bad ideas.
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>>737195084
Don't bother replying to them, anon. Americans thrive on getting you entangled in meaningless debates that do nothing but frustrate everyone reading it, and keep people from discussing the real meat of an issue. In essence, they're filibustering you like a hog in the mud.
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>>737194670
Yeah just 200 more years, (neo)libshit sister. Hang in there, capitalist transnational patriots are in control.
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>>737194003
I have a real life friend that says retarded shit like this and it's very frustrating to be around.
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[Fantastic News] While eastern games thrive, western garbage keep creating the biggest flops in history
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>>737191496
>unproductive remote work
holy boomer argument
in the office people spend half of the time on coffee breaks, playing fifa or in the pillow room
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>>737194573
They are both shit games and the fact they found any success at all is why I want this industry destroyed with no survivors.
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>>737185013
Western devs produce garbage, im just waiting that even the most overrated crap makers like Rockstar, CDPR, Larian and Naughty Dog fail to celebrate
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>>737195185
oh no!! camps!! It's much better to have drug addicts literally shitting and begging on the street, and tons of brown people with no cultural similarity everywhere!

You're delusional. China has clean subways, clean streets, and the economy is growing. Whenever I travel to east asia it feels like I'm returning to the third world the second I get off the plane in the states. Actually I can feel it the second I'm near other white people in the airport.
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>post yfw the American Century of Humiliation is only 10 years in
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>>737186597
Lords Of the Fallen is total fucking garbage where all the NPCs are black, female, or have an American accent IN A MEDIEVAL FANTASY SETTING.
Fuck you. Fuck that DEI garbage.
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>>737194763
This shit started because the China numba one crowd showed up it a thread where we were laughing at the industry to blindly push their shit like usual.
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CCP is so retarded, they think tanking the western industry by funding Concordlikes will somehow hurt it and cause us to buy chinese games instead? roflmao
Riot Games tainted your dataset. People played League because it was free DOTA (no war3 required). And you went all in on that and nobody gives a fuck about League outside of China. Which is even more money spent attracting your domestic audience to a foreign game.

Now you try flipping the script with zero creativity of a communist nation and have to subsidize and spend out the ass to just keep your games afloat domestically >>737194616

Wasting money on both ends. I love watching China constantly do things and lose.
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>>737195361
here's my hot take, managers want people in the office so they can oogle the asian baddies and power trip everyone else. It's so fucking annoying, and it's a waste of productivity. I'm not sure why shareholders put up with it, they're paying for middle management's little strip teases out of their own pockets.
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funny how the layoffs only affect programmers but people hired for some made up positions like managers, hr etc never get fired it's almost like it's planned to keep women at work and make men jobless and miserable
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>>737194819
You can find exposed tits in some western games even now, China just does ecchi teasing.
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>>737195507
I personally think it's good to remind people that better countries exist and the pedophile cannibals that run your country are insisting those countries are evil.

No ching-chong Chinaman ever told me I'm sexist for liking huge breasts.
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>>737195309
Less than a thousand players is actually fucking crazy to think about.
All these years of games propagating to a global scale... and they get less than 1,000 people who want to play their garbage.
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>>737195516
yeah that's part of the reason, managers and ceos like having their little slaves sitting in open plan offices like retards but another reason - for some reason it's almost never mentioned - is jews own all buildings and if companies don't need so much office space they stop renting and jews lose money hence the push for return to office from all companies (jews own them all)
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>>737185045
>I hate you.
This is why your studio is closing. You are a hateful person who makes shitty games nobody wants to play. You hate your own consumer and purposely make games they don't want. You make ugly, grotesque "art" that is an inversion of reality and nature. You don't have to do this, but you choose to do it.
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>>737195524
>it's almost like it's planned to keep women at work and make men jobless and miserable
That's how china solves their birthrate crisis. Working with Jews to ensure the West is full of childless girlbosses and suppressed fighting aged males.
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>>737195615
idk anon I work in commercial real estate consulting and a lot of the companies are fully remote
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>>737195583
>I personally think it's good to remind people that better countries exist
>t. China
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>>737195312
Not a muriclap, the rest of the world has plenty of contempt for you too.
>>737195409
All you faggots can do is talk about american bullshit, complete and total rent free in that little mind of yours. Or perhaps its just the playbook you got from the hivemind
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>Even Capcom selling out to China
Huge mistake. They will learn the hard way like Snoy
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>>737195732
What does America have that's better than China?
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>>737195512
Keep coping shlomo, concord was directed by an actual jew lel, you really suck at life
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>>737194889
show me
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>>737194543
>America
>here are 2 retards who are going to sell out the country from under you, vote for one of them, now you can't complain for 4 years
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>>737195735
nigga I'm the guy living in the states who wants to move and impregnate some shenzhen slampiggies
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>>737195783
>What does America have that's better than China?
>food
>not getting shot for saying bad things about the government
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>>737195826
Sounds much better than that country that regularly purges bureaucrats that do a shitty job.
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>>737195309
>8 of the top 10 most played on steam are western
>Could probably be 8.5 since PUBG was based off an ARMA mod and helmed by a white dude
?
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>>737184861
Good
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>>737184861
Brave if you to think that these corporations will not just subsist themselves on AI and checkfraud. They clearly don’t need employees anymore, so expect another indie renaissance on par with Xbox Live arcade for Steam within the next 3-10 years. With titles like Balatro, BG3, and E33 generating good buzz, AA gaming is clearly the way right now, and these corporations are probably literally going to take a generation off and use generative tech to peddle slop and tread water until the industry regains interest, then launch the “next gen” in 10-12 years time. People forget the catastrophic Atari crash did not take THAT long to turn around, just a few years for demand to build, and then suddenly the industry exploded again after. These things wax and wane, if you are concerned, wait for the RAM prices to fall off more and do a build to play the shiniest new thing. The concept that gaming could truly ever die is a little silly, but it will get dire, no doubt. Sony has fucked its release schedule completely and Microsoft is Netflix, idek what to say about Nintendo man fuck them, I steal their shit and only play their consoles with flashcarts or the equivalent.
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Are there actual CCP propagandists on /v/? Can't we just laugh at the industry without the China shills always showing up?
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>>737195767
>Snoy selling out to China
...When?
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>>737188110
Raven did very well in Madison for a long time in the 90s and early 2000s but something kept them from moving up to the top tier. Eventually they gave up on original projects and became a Call of Duty studio. Bioware was awesome way up there in Edmonton but are now an embarrassing husk. I kind of followed both studios the whole time and I had the (possibly wrong) impression that they struggled to hire top talent.

That's the paradox, I think: the top talent want to live in one of ~five megacities. Therefore the studios in those cities have the initial advantage. They build support staff around the top talent. This allows them to make cutting edge graphics, game design, and polish. And for a while they make a few great games. Then they drown in the pressure to exceed previous earnings. They over hire. Project bloat. Bureaucracy. DEI pressure form shareholders. Rot from within and studio closure. Those cities are tremendously expensive.

Game development is almost impossible in America in my opinion, and it's due to the various ways that human greed and selfishness manifest.
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>>737185045
If they cared about their families then they should not have made shit games
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>>737195785
CCP is just a zionist byproduct. Your own people worship jews. You work together to make the word shit like your countries are.
>>737195971
It's not enough to waste money on shit like Highguard and botting BG3. They have to also waste money thinking they make a difference on a Mongolian Basket Weaving BBS lmao
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>>737195675
Elsagate, Skibidi Toiilet. and all the AI Slop YouTube Shorts are the CCP destroying Western brains as young as possible. Chinese TikTok serves users educational videos. American TikTok is digital junk food.
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>>737195916
>not getting shot for saying bad things about the government
Try saying, "Jews run the government" on a public forum and see how fast you get lynched.
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>>737195971
>Can't we just laugh at the industry without the China shills always showing up?
Someone mentioned tencent's ownership of a portion of blackrock and it's been a shitshow ever since.
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>>737195916
Lol enjoy GMOs and massive amounts of hormones, your slop is banned in most civilized countries
>not getting shot for saying bad things about the government
Lol your muttoid shlomo agents are monitoring you
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>>737195583
没有啦,但我确实因为你不喜欢张元英才骂你是狗。
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>>737196075
>Jews run the government
Jews run the government
See?
I've been saying that shit for years and I'm still not dead.
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>>737195449
>american
I believe that UK has been humiliated to higher extent than America. More british girls have been raped by migrant grooming gangs than the amount of korean girls have japanese raped as comfort women.

To this day koreans are super butthurt about it. British? They have systemically hidden the foreigners raping their girls.

Not to mention the ethnical and cultural replacement that is taking place.

And the same happens in almost every white country except eastern european.

It's the century of humiliation of white people.
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>>737196071
The funny thing is they think they can do this with our vidya and now they're seething that it doesn't work that way. /v/ being so resilient drives these shills up a wall. Hence their seetheposting.
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>>737195971
At least one janny is currently protecting those posts as well, banning others so yeah we are not going to be having vidya discussion anytime soon.
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>>737196117
>Lol your muttoid shlomo agents are monitoring you
>says the wumao as political officer chang watches over his shoulder to make sure he doesn't deviate from script
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>can't produce anti-American propaganda without inadvertently making them look badass
>can manage a far more complex subversion operation that requires understanding western psychology better than western corporations

You niggers are giving the chinks way too much credit.
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>>737195971
I like their flashcarts and upscalers, sorry man.
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>>737192987
If we're in decline why don't you fucking get the fuck out back to your fucking Chinkna.
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>>737196056
lmao actual zionist cuck projecting onto his nemesis
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>>737196160
>It's the century of humiliation of white people.
I've come to the uncomfortable realization that China might have, in fact, been the center of human civilization and the 200 years of Western dominance was nothing more than a fluke. The West humiliated China with the Eight-Nation Alliance and all those countries have been suffering ever since.
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>>737192109
Yeah I've been hoping for a while now that this best case scenario would come to pass. I was one of the ones posting "industry crash soon" every thread for the last 15 years and while it took longer than expected, it seems all the corporate-bought devs with bloated useless staff and unrealistic shareholder expectations are finally getting bled dry. With just the indies and AA devs we'll get another era of passion projects and fun games before we begin repeating the 90s and early 00s where they all sell out to corpos again to out food on their table.
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>>737196170
Keep coping cannon fodder as you become more poor and destitute lel
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the industry "professionalized" which turned games from being games in to game dev into being adult daycare while managers embezzle as much funds as possible to buy cars & yachts for themselves while they labor to never release a game or else they'll have to find a new gravy train to ride.
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>>737196125
>Anon says this, quietly, on an anonymous shitposting forum
No no, I'm saying you insist this at your job. Around people. I can say I hate Donald Trump all ding dong day around my manager, but imagine the look on his face if I started saying Israel controls America and our government is bought out by Jewish lobbyists.
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>>737196346
>Keep coping cannon fodder as you become more poor and destitute lel
>he says, from a literal communist country
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>>737196179
There are so many western people who want to destroy western culture that the chinks don't need to understand anything, they just pay those people to do it for them.
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>>737196270
Decades of foreign intervention for no reason other than sowing chaos will do that.
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>Tencent? No money spent.
>NetEase? Bitch, please.
>Larian? Never Carian.
>Mihoyo? No Buyo.

I will not play their temu-tier slop.
I will not purchase from the gacha shop.
I will not buy the wuxia trash.
I will not invest if chinese have a corporate stash.

I will not play them, Chudda, I am.
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>>737196214
And he still ended up worshipping them and their party. That's how fucking stupid you chinese are.
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>>737195971
hard to do that when china is literally better than usa now
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Which video game industry is dying again? AAA? Oh, I'm not a customer in that space. Doesn't matter to me and it won't affect me in any way at all. Video gaming essentially has multiple different industries working in parallel with some overlap, but not nearly as much as you'd think.
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>>737193773
And again a non- hysterical comment gets ignored. Is there an agenda here to make everything look like it's collapsing at the slightest bump? Not saying there aren't problems, just as 20 years ago, but the whole industry in the west collapsing?

Why you rarely find this tone in real life? Plenty of western/Japanese games to play. If anything I'm overwhelmed at the choices.
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Indies are the future
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>>737196393
>No no, I'm saying you insist this at your job.
My previous manager literally went on 30 minute tangents about stuff like this regularly and no one gave a shit because they all found it entertaining.
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>>737196270
the west was absolutely fucking based, look at the civilization that the British Empire spread from like 1500 - 1900. Then WW1 and WW2 happened, and Britain couldn't afford to support its empire, and obviously the US was on the upswing as well. We are just in this really weird period where the upper classes culturally fuck with working class people by importing a bunch of retards. The upper classes never have to deal with the legions of Indians, but the working class normal people do. I fucking hate it
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>>737196071
>Chinese TikTok serves users educational videos
STOP listening to Joe Rogan and his conveyor belt of glowniggers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RUBS8Qmc_M

Chinese tiktok (douyin) is literally just bass boosted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNsZiK0bSlc with gay (and lesbian) anime cosplayers doing retarded shit in slow motion.
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>>737196523
This is the rational answer, and everything I have been posting before is banter about my love for the Huaxia.

The "prestige" companies are dying. They're dying for many reasons, and DEI/Diversity is just one of them. Niche/Indie games are thriving, and Eastern titles have broken through the language/culture barrier to become economic equals for Western markets. The only people that are "dying" right now are the people you should have given up on throughout the 2010s. The ones saying they didn't want "racist white men."
>>737196585
That's actually based, nice. I'm glad you found a company with people who aren't drones.
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>>737196531
/v/ keeps ignoring that the yearly normie trash is still selling fine, as long as Madden, Fifa, COD, GTA, etc. still sell AAA isn't going anywhere.
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Further proof socialists aka communists ruin every they they touch, whether it's govt or private business

Stop being a fucking leftist weirdo and maybe things will get better
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>>737184861
We did it
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>>737196630
>the US is more socialist than both russia and china
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>>737194573
We both know that your graph is fake, anon. Stop lying, everybody is laughing at you whenever you post and your family is very ashamed.
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>>737196661
They pushed QAnon and have online shills everywhere so Ill never forgive the nation of Eunichs for destroying the internet.
Plus gacha.
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>>737195916
>not getting shot for saying bad things about the government
The government doesn't run your country, You think you wouldn't get murdered if you got too close to the Epstein class? they would track down your "anonymous" 4chan post and throw you off a balcony. In many ways China is less dangerous because you know who governs you and you know what you aren't supposed to say.
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>>737196785
You don't even know what socialism is dumb fuck cannon fodder lel, you're so fucked, the only use for you is as fertilizer in the middle east, maybe shlomo is right about you
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>>737195767
The entire Japanese AAA industry is propped up by Chinese otaku at this point
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>>737196846
>They pushed QAnon
Oh my god if this is the same guy as the Baldur Gate 3 schizo I quit the thread
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>>737195361
Work from home people come in two modes.
Mode 1: bragging about how little work they do while at home
Mode 2: being very outraged over the suggestion that they are slacking off
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>>737196921
>You don't even know what socialism is
>btw the US is more socialist than both russia and china
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>>737196401

> jew trying to rewrite history to cover his tracks again
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>>737196936
the entire vidyagame industry is, if americucks were smart they'd do game with big fat titties and good gameplay non wokeshit but they're dumb as fuck so they'd rather lose money with lgbtq+wokeshit
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>>737196847
>You think you wouldn't get murdered if you got too close to the Epstein class?
I once watched a video of somebody trying to drive a Google Maps car through a genuinely rich and connected neighborhood and his maps would get deleted days after getting posted, until eventually he got very uncomfortable shadows darkening his doorstep. The only reason it looks like you're free is because you're not bothering the little hyper-wealthy bubbles the Epstein Class live in.
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>>737197023
All you have is cope and retardation
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>>737185013
JAPANESE video games. White people losing their jobs makes me feel nothing.
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>>737196982
as a WFH faggot, those are both sides of the same coin. You need to be outraged about those accusations otherwise you will be given more work, even if you are doing literally nothing all day. It's the same thing as being rich because you're aggressively trying to cut costs.
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>>737196038
You're ignoring a key part in your story here, they all met up with Microsoft and their quality immediately plummeted after. Xbox starts to die and things start to get better, can't be a coincidence.
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>>737185013
Those people said that I'm not the target audience, so why should I care about them going away?
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>>737197193
>White people losing their jobs makes me feel nothing.

>mfw the same people cheering on white men getting ousted from the industry (sometimes violently) throughout the 2010s are the same people begging me to feel sorry for them getting ousted
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>>737197156
>All you have is cope and retardation
>t. living in a socialist country and doesn't understand socialism
Literally the amerimutt of the Asian continent.
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>>737197193
Japanese video games stopped being good a decade ago. Now they just rehash the same old shit, except every time they do it, it gets worse
I guess wouldn't notice that because they never played the old games they keep rehashing. If you don't play RE4 you may think RE4R is a good game
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>>737194763
Man these threads are usually created by chinks and people who hate the west. Why do you think they use hyperbole? Do you have friends outside of internet out of western games to play?
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>>737186784
>100 people
>punching above their weight
they are the fucking overweight fucks
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>>737196531
Microsoft is paying people to not blame them for the second American crash. We Americans aren't letting that happen. Xbox will be blamed for all and Microsoft will pay the price for it.
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>>737195919
why would it be bad to purge incompetent officials?
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>>737197404
If you purge the incompetent officials, how are they going to get comfortable lobbyist jobs?
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>>737197362
Cdpr has around 1,000 ppl, Bethesda game studios has around 700, and Larian has around 500. Inxile is small by AAA rpg standards
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>>737195262
Again, keep seething little wumao, the PRC's days are numbered.
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>>737195767
most of the players aren't Chinese there.
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>>737197246
The question asked why there aren't major American game studios in smaller or medium cities.

I think it just comes down to humans wanting to live in California because of its perfect weather. Also the urban monoculture (the larger media apparatus and the myths it purveys and the biases it creates) makes people feel gravity emanating from a few major cities, and they want to go to those places. Humans have always tended to gravitate toward major cities but I think mass media turns the dial way higher than it would naturally be. You're just going to struggle in some mid-sized Michigan or Minnesotan city to attract and retain talent. Especially because winter is difficult to get used to and even those born into it tend to tolerate it at best.
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All that dei crap didn't work out that well, huh? Maybe if you convince me of how feminist you really are I might buy your game. Put more blacks in there too.
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>>737184861
nice, finally some good news
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>>737195939
Again just like this supposed western gaming collapse isn't something you see in real life. Just here and on Reddit.
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>>737196038
>the top talent want to live in one of ~five megacities
corporations have a gravely wrong definition of "top talent"
it's not the people who can do the job best: those people are not concentrated in any particular location and can always be employed remotely
"top talent", to the corporate shiteaters, means the most willing, ideologically fundamentalist slaves who have a long history of working on previous AAA flops
those people are concentrated in big cities because they seek the most degenerate possible lifestyle
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How come there hasn't been a SINGLE, one fucking SINGLE good american game in YEARS?
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>>737197623
Two more weeks.
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>>737185013
these aren't video games, they're attention traps designed to extract money from me
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>>737184861
Good.
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>>737184861
I think I've never played westernslop in my entire life, only flash and indie games
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>>737184861
Good, Europe needs to fuck off with its anti-sex. Korean and American games are the only ones with sexy girls these days
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>>737197674
Probably, but most of their problems simply do come from Microsoft, that's simply a fact. Their problems will never be fixed even if they changed states, they have to drop the Microsoft mindset and return to their roots. If Microsoft already owns them, it's too late.
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>>737187843
That's just Sweden. Finland funds bangers
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>>737197857
>American games
>sexy girls
name 1
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>>737196395
predicating your argument on "all communism is bad because my brainwashing said so" is not convincing
soviet communism was pretty fucked up, but chinese communism is meeting the needs of its people better than america's system
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>>737197762
Grim Dawn came out in 2016, and their company is based in Massachusetts!
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>>737197762
Slay the spire 2?
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>>737197929
If you want me to be anal, Chinese communism died somewhere in the 1980s and is now just fascism with a communist paintjob.
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>>737197924
Fortnite
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>>737197924
Easy
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>>737197660
parasites get all the credit
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>>737197954
First not dumb aqua post, the world is turned upside down.
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>>737197924
Overwatch girls
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>>737197551

when you retards say things like this comparing 500 vs 1000 people it shows you've never had a job other than working at the local gas station or pizza delivery - fucking retard
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>>737197924
Roblox unironically
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>>737184861
Keep killing games yes.
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>>737198005
>if it's good, it's not communism anymore
that's pretty extreme intellectual dishonesty
you're not trying to understand their system or the underlying principles, you just want to redefine "communist" to mean "bad"
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>>737184861
I can only hope so. I want people in the industry who want to make a game, not send a ham-fisted message
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>>737185045
Good they fucking deserve it for making shitty games. Darwinism at it's finest.
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>>737198184
have you? the more people you add to a software business, the less marginal utility each person brings
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>>737192135
>>737192313
>>737192382

What the fuck are you talking about? China was the country that put a One Child policy on itself and single-handedly fucked its male to female ratio so that most men in China won't even reproduce. You're even seeing it now with the birthrate dropping lower than Japan's.

The unironic truth is there won't be a single superpower in the world for a while and China, Europe and the USA will both become more like Russia in pretty much every metric all because their leaders were retarded sellouts and the boomers of their respective countries sold out their future to these vultures. Literally no one is going to win. We've all already lost.
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>>737185013
I only play Jap, chink, gook and Slav games so this doesn’t affect me at all. I can’t remember the last game I bought from an American or Western European dev.
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>>737198431
There's a billion of them. There will be a billion of them for centuries to come. Worry about yourself.
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>>737198338

> have you?

yes - most big companies are 90% waste of space people that do nothing. YOu think it's an exaggeration or over simplification but IT REALLY FUCKING ISNT - you underestimate how quickly a culture of high criticism can be destroyed by normies and women
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>>737197743
>it's not the people who can do the job best: those people are not concentrated in any particular location and can always be employed remotely
I suppose we can only speculate on that. I've listened and read enough stuff from Jobs and Musk and Newell and others that I strongly believe that most of the good work is done by just a few people, and that they only need some support from everybody else. So they form this core of exemplary humans that handle logistics, programming, design, finances, etc. and then those people hire staff.

I'm a bit afield talking about major entrepreneurs but I have this point: you have to do what they did, probably to a lesser extent, in order to do great work. You have to find great people and hire them and put them into place making the decisions and making the hires. The people those great people then hire have to be, at least, good. I think all that has to come together to build a major company.

To have all those people together...well it seems like they want to live in San Francisco, LA, or Seattle. And so that's pretty much where the major US-made games come out of.

Maybe your ideas of less location-concentration exist in the future. I don't really see it currently. These companies are still suiciding themselves paying DEI dopes $120,000-$200,000 per year in west coast cities. I think that's because they're trying to build around the few great people they have while also obeying DEI initiative pressure.
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>>737197551
inxile is in california and isn't a publisher like the euro studios. either way you don't need more than 100 people to make a masterpiece and the fact that they are aiming for that doesn't bode well for them.
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>>737198503
>There will be a billion of them for centuries to come
I guess people live forever and are productive forever, right? It's not like their own baby boomer class isn't dropping dead like our own and in 20 years, most of China's population will be gone and won't be replaced due to the low birth rate right? Retard.
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>>737198698
>not gonna live long enough for this shit to hit the fan
oh can you see!
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>>737198875
I never said that. In fact, I said the exact opposite: we're all fucked once the WW2 generation starts dying regadless if you're Chang, Ivan or John Smith Burgerson. Hell, even Ahmed and Jose aren't going to be unscathed by the population crisis that's very obviously coming.
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>>737185045
Shouldn't have bred then normie.
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>>737198698
>birth rates are static and frozen
>ignore that they went from 500 million to 1.3 billion in 70 years
You're an idiot.

Again, worry about yourself. You can halve China and they'll still outnumber you. At the same time not only are you getting halved, you are getting replaced. China will be China in 200 years. You will be Mumbai 2.0.
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>literal chinese bugs in this thread
>have to seethe about the CCP or else they will have negative social credit
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>>737198628
>most of the good work is done by just a few people
this is basically correct but

>they're trying to build around the few great people they have while also obeying DEI initiative pressure
is the flaw in your worldview
the big-money flop studios that insist on locating in big cities don't have any great people, which is why they don't produce any good work
they see "talent" as interchangeable, so they locate themselves near "talent factories" like the california institute of arts
unfortunately, none of the "talent" they're hiring has any actual talent, so the outcome is garbage that no one wants to buy
30 years ago, when the cost of living was affordable and companies did seek out great people, the great people actually did move to california and washington because of the weather
now a bunch of cargo cultists are moving there with no understanding of why it worked for microsoft and valve in the 90s, and acting surprised when their products are outrageously expensive serial failures
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>>737199219
I'm not even American, Chang. And yes, that's how predictions work. It's not like we're working with real data but extrapolations from the most current model. I know this is too much for your propaganda raped brain to handle but there is an actual science to this shit and it's not the weird wushu bullshit you use to justify why China will still be numba one 10,000,000 years from now.
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>>737199227
>thread about US game industry
>full of nothing but seethe about China
Gee I wonder who's to blame here? Must be the Chinese, they really don't want to discuss the collapse of US so they're shifting the conversation towards themselves
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>>737199219
The population obviously isn't helping since countries with smaller populations have more power. Most of those billion are retard hicks that are morally bankrupt and shit,spit, and piss in public when they go abroad
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>>737185013
>That cancerous growth has been a part of your friend for years! Why are you happy that it's being destroyed?!
Western AAA is overflowing with people who don't really care about telling great stories, producing great games, or entertaining the audience. If they could just skip straight to the part where you pay them to select the dialogue options that say that cutting off your dick makes you a woman, men bad, male sexuality bad, girlbosses good, and that you should celebrate your heritage and love and take care of your people unless you're white, they'd love that. It's turned into a glorified HR office. And what's worse is that they try to browbeat every developer in the world into playing by their rules. If you break them, you're begging for smear pieces from the media and possibly even deplatforming. The whole point is to make it so that gamers are not allowed to choose a different direction for the industry.

The entertainment world needs to learn the lesson that you're never so big that you can get away with the attitude of modern Hollywood. That's what's best for the hobby.
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>>737198698
>go from tons of chinks to some chinks
>go from tons of whites to tons of mexicans
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>>737199227
>invents a fake faggot thing
>normalize it
>implement it for its own goyim
>still seethe at china about it
Really giving the >>737193157
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>AAA dies
>Indie releases keep increasing.

Really makes you think.
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>>737185013
I only like Japanese kino and Euro jank
NA slop can die for all I care
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>>737199439
I don't think either you or I know exactly how many great people are in any given studio, so that's a tough point to contend with. My belief is that they have them and they are sufficiently encumbered by bureaucracy and *not only* the demoralization of working around tons of woke faggots...but also the inherent uncooperativeness of such people...that they just don't get a chance to express their talents fully. The aforementioned Jobs/Musk/Newell knew that you need to give these rare humans all the possible support and quickly fire the uncooperative underlings. But modern management thinks that those chud fucks should keep their pale White/SE Asian heads down and only speak when spoken to (exaggerating some but it manifests this way).
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>>737199875
>people who were fired are trying and failing to make it as indies
Not much to think about here really. Amount of indies 100xed in the past few years but we still get like 5-10 big hits a year
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>>737199875
>this happens after the Microsoft Xbox era finally ends
It really does gets the noggin joggin.
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>>737199875
It makes me think that Valve should really have higher standards for what's sold on their storefront.
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>>737199660
>I'm not even American
I do not differentiate between jewish neoliberal slaves. Be they the cannon fodder warrior caste (US) or the tourism prostitute caste (EU). You are the same entity and faction. Your projections are retarded and so is your whole family tree. Same as those projections that thought Africa would never slow down with breeding and would engulf the whole planet.

The truth is: You want to share the misery. "Oh we all lost waa waa". At least that helps you sleep at night. But that is not the case and you snap at people that show you the reality of your Brazilification (Pajeetification) and controlled demolition - something that is uniquely yours.
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>bugs
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>>737200284
What, like Microshit?
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>>737184861
They nigger-trooned their last nigger-troon game.

>>737185013
I like based loli shooting games. And girls actually looking like girls, eat shit
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Here's a thought.: Maybe don't spend the majority of your development time and money attacking your consumer base for some random 5guys whore and her just as dumb and evil friends?
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>>737200150
so these companies are all moving to california to build around the great people who they're also suppressing and preventing from producing any good work?
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>>737185013
>west is THE INDUSTRY
Fuck off. If it needs to collapse and burn to get the rot out so be it. If you don't have a backlog of 300+ games you're no gamer.
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>>737200562
>loli shooting games.
Those exist? i've never seen any.
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>>737185013
I like video games.
The video game industry doesn't. The video game industry makes slop for retards who think graphics make a game good.
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>>737184861
it's a disingenuous article. you cannot present the times of infinite blackrock and covid money glitch as the norm. many of these companies had way less employees before 2018. they invested the extra money in extra teams that made shit games nobody bought. now the money has run out and they are dismantling these companies, but that doesn't mean the industry itself is dying. of course, you cannot expect the bare minimum reasoning from a "gaming" "journalist".
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>>737200746
Yes. It's a big reason why their games often fail to sell now, where they were popular 10+ years ago. These corporations recognize the need to attract talent. You can see this on any of their websites (they even have stuff like "Not currently hiring but outstanding individuals encouraged to apply) but they do not recognize the need to keep shitty people and shitty ideas out of the way of the talent.
The decisions made by their management are often wrong, in part because of pressure from their owner corporations and publishers.
In other words: they have some of the right practices in place but they don't recognize the mistakes they are making that drastically diminish the quality of their products. And so the talented people are encumbered.
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>>737184861
>44% of devs are looking to leave video games due to layoffs
Now show their resumes and linkedin profiles revealing they're all jeets or DEI hires in useless positions
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America has a problem were every successful mid tier studio gets bought by some giant company and then all their future releases become shit. Now there's no more successful mid tier studios around and just a bunch of floundering giant companies.
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>>737185045
>People with families.
>People with children
>meanwhile the average western game dev:
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>>737200284
The community told valve that they wanted to buy indie games on steam. You're too young to remember but steam was a walled garden just like the rest until greenlight came out. Greenlight was awful so they dropped the wall entirely and let everyone join in.
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>>737196038
>Eventually they gave up on original projects and became a Call of Duty studio
What kind of retarded misinformation are you trying to pass around?
Raven made lots of great games, then Activision came along and bought them out because they're a bigger company than them, then continuously meddled with their development cycle for years until they decided to remove the bulk of the team and sent the rest off to become a CoD dev. Absolutely none of this was their choice in the slightest.
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>>737185045
The same thing that people say to criminal parents applies here: If you're so concerned about the wellbeing of your children, you should have made better choices.

The fact that you have kids does not entitle you to the money of other people who also have kids. Make a good game if you want to get paid.
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>>737201559
Not a good thing. People want indie games, not AI Jeet slop cluttering up the search engines.
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>>737201336
The problem is that if you're mid-tier developer, you basically get a big influx of money every few years, and you're eventually going to need investors to cover those gaps.

A malicious Marxist cabal has created a workaround for communism: tax people at 50%, bounce those taxes across proxies to the hedge funds and other institutions, and then force compliance in order to regain access to the resources that they stole from you so that you can meaningfully participate in society. Then they call it capitalism and the drones respond by demanding more taxation. That's why large modern American businesses have all of the problems that you hear about in communist countries.
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>>737185045
Have this 8 and this (You)
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>>737201470
Fucking hell
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>>737201576
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Raven_Software_games
Check the "reception" section of their last few games prior to being turned into a CoD studio. Poorly reviewed games and poor sales. This points to a talent issue.
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>>737202550
This is what an actual low IQ woman looks like.

When men say that they like dumb girls, what they mean is that they like laid back women who are fun to interact with. This wasn't really associated with being stupid until feminists started shaming women who weren't good revolutionaries. Men should realize this themselves and change their language accordingly.
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>>737203092
NIGGER THAT'S A FUCKING TRANNY
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>>737203092
On the second thought, that might be a man. They can become androgynous when they turn into blobs.

I guess that counts as a form of passing?
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>>737188110
Every other state telling you to stay the fuck in Cuckifornia where you belong
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>>737192173
That zebra jacket would work better if the rest of his outfit coordinated with it, the vertical stripes don't mesh with the more natural patterns his other items have.
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>>737192382
Please don't lump in the indians and other middle easterners with us Asians
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>>737184861
>>737185045

All those gaming industry faggots who sided with the jew and promoted woke shit to own da chuds.

Here's my message to them: With jews you lose. Enjoy losing your jobs and hopefully your home, don't worry, I am sure a bank with a jewish CEO will enjoy repossessing it.
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>>737203807
They sided with Microsoft for Xbox, that's what caused this, it goes all the way back to 2001.
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>>737203738
Total Diaspora Death btw
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>>737201893
That's a storefront issue. Steam should add more self-curation options. I'd love to be able to filter games by AI and region (for example, exclude all games published in China and India).



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