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Get back on the grind.
Raise those ranks.
Play fighting games.
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Recommend a good fighting game for a beginner to learn the ropes.
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>>737189012
literally who
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>>737189012
I don't participate in the whole SNK/CotW hate train because I never played it but I have to admit that guy was right, that trailer really was just combos over and over.
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>>737189186
>a good fighting game
>for a beginner to learn the ropes
You can only pick one anon. SF6, T8 and Strive are your best options for starting out with the genre, but those games are notoriously ass.
CotW, Blazblue CF and Killer Instinct are good fighting games, but there's only like 10 people that play those games and they will rape you if you try to enter their sweaty domains.
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>>737189414
>Blazblue CF
>only like 10 people who play those games
Blatantly false. There's still tons of shitters in white square or green square rank in that one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooCr-F_zl8o [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rak-A5ul-6U [Embed]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRZCIp5y11Q [Embed]
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>>737189186
Samurai Shodown 2019
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How to play Leo Whitefang in strive? How should I get into backturn and how do I use his guard point things without just getting hit by a low or throw?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw99asgkxgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvd3_1FCPA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qzgkGMyRdE
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>>737189576
>Blatantly false.
You're blatantly lying.
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/neog/ so dead these fuckers have to come here...
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>>737189186
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R legitimately. It’s not easy but it’s not impossibly hard either, if you want to actually get a firm grip on the genre you will learn a lot from learning +R. It has replay takeover so you can test what you could’ve done in any situation too.
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>>737189925
I see people post these thinking that’s bad and it’s the quickest way for them to expose they don’t play fighting games
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>>737189931
yeah i have noticed these threads are always full of snkfags
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just hit gold in sf6 for the first time on dee jay. feeling good right now. decided to switch off elena. dee jay was my first main back at launch but i dropped him (and this game) for years until a few months ago
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>>737189012
>zoomers don't know who this is
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why does this board constantly talk about zoomers like they're 11 years old. they're in their late 20s kek
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>>737190447
Congrats. Good luck on your Elena journey.
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tick tock tick
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>>737189925
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>>737190628
i think i'm just gonna go full time deejay until one of my older mains get added. he's too fun in this game, i love that you can hold his charge while advancing with heavy punch letting you use his air slasher in combos. i love the jus' cool feint. i love that his light specials all feint and that you can bait people hard with it. capcom was really cooking with his redesign
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>>737190721
>only playable connection is with a yellow rank
It's that bad now?
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>>737190865
3 is already great, 2 is playable, from my experience
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>>737190865
2 and 3 bar are fine with rollback dude. did you think it had delay based?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52eylAXTxUw is he right?
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>>737190865
Blue rank is between white and green
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>>737190673
I always forget that game actually came out. It's just permanently in development hell in my mind until I get a reminder.
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>>737190721
>Match / Spectate Room
You're not beating the allegations anon. Don't make me boot up the game and expose your ass.
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>>737190604
Because Gen Alphas aren't worth bringing up
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>>737192860
what are you on about, thats the default option
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>>737190721
>mostly Pinks, Oranges, and Yellows
Even on sale don't fall for the memes anon.
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>>737192860
Don't bother, I did it for you.
This is still enough for someone to play and you can always swap a room from Match/Spectate to FFA.
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>>737193097
>>737193034
>greens
OHNNONONONONONONONOONONO
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>>737193097
>Orange player telling beginners to play blazblue
See, these are the people telling beginners to play. You are going to get beaten down by them and they will laugh at you when you quit. So disingenuous.
>>737193162
Green are High Level players in a pool of realistically 50 players (264 total) you can play without connection issues. That's like booting up KOFXIII and making fun of the Green players there. They have thousands of matches and you know it.
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>>737193402
>Green are High Level players
Holy fucking shit
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>>737193097
Wow, there's like 4 people to play with.
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>>737193502
You're an orange rank trying to bait people to come get beat up by you. Not a good look tough guy.
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>>737193097
dead game
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>>737193621
I'm not looking to play beginners, that's boring as shit. I'm trying to tell you that green squares and lowers still exist.
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>>737193097
>those 2bars will turn into 1bars mid match
two maybe three rooms at best.
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>>737193837
And it isn't even peak hours either.
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>>737193787
In your own picture there was only 1 Green you could play and it was a Bright Green rank with all the other rooms being higher which suggest that B.Green is winning a lot and he was probably a Yellow Rank before getting deranked. Your own source doesn't even defend your claims.
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>>737189576
>>737189853
>>737190004
These are all horrible recs for a new player. Stop trying to lure newbies into dead shit.
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>>737194056
I mean I can play reductionist all day to downplay blue ranks being smurfs too but holy fucking shit, man if you think this shit is so impenetrably scary or intimidating to even pick up a game then I don't even know what to say at this point.
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What's your opinion on She-Hulk and Gwen leaked in to Marven Tokon?
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>>737189186
Starward
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>>737194290
>if you think this shit is so impenetrably scary or intimidating to even pick up a game then I don't even know what to say at this point
nta but I've seen people decide to not play a fighting game for far less. The BB complaints itt are far more reasonable.
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>>737189186
sf6 or strive by far. both are low skill floor high skill ceiling with a very active playerbase and both are good fighting games despite what the singular anon here will spam post about
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>>737194296
All I want is gwenpool.
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You really have people who claim they like fighting games as they're a competitive driven genre about improvement and socializing who then will post steam charts to call a game dead as if SF6 or T8 number's aren't like 0.01% of any major hero shooter or moba. I fucking wish the dead kuso I played had double digit players at any time.

Anyway, anyone here going to CB next month?
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>>737194330
>Temu Gundam EXVS at home
Based.
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>>737189186
Guilty Gear -Strive-, if you really wanna ''the popular pick'' Street Fighter 6 but that game has currently so many asshole mechanics that just go with -Strive-.
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>>737194572
I tried Strive and it wasn't fun, I think the genre just isn't for me

The characters feel extremely clunky, the inputs are excessively hard to pull off on a regular controller, the monetization is atrocious, it's like the entire genre is built to piss you off as much as humanly possible
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>>737194572
>high skill ceiling
hahahahahahahaha
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>>737194682
When's combo breaker again?
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>>737194682
You have to remember like 98% of any fighting game thread are people who don't play
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>>737194771
they are, sorry you can't reach it :/
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>>737194682
Metro Exodus has more players than -Strive- Or Tekken 8 combined.
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>>737194771
>brown zoomer hands typed this post
grim
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>>737194290
Had you not been a Orange Rank (Probably was a Pink Rank, let's be real here, he'll be Pink Rank tomorrow after a session) I would take you more serious. And had you not posted a picture that has no Blue or Dark Green playable rooms to make your claims seem even more unjust I would be on your side. But as you have shown the skill level in Blazblue is too out of reach for a beginner player. A veteran fighter game player, sure. But we're talking about Beginners that probably come from Granblue looking for more anime fighters. This is not a good way to grow your scene, your approach is very intimidating.
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>playing anything besides Street Fighter, Tekken, KOF
Is there a bigger cope?
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i've started using the replay takeover mode more in sf6, its actually really useful for labbing out matchups. the best thing about modern fighting games is all of these training tools, being able to access frame data and practice whiff punishes on demand is incredible
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>>737194808
>:/
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>>737193402
>Green are High Level players
No, they really aren't, the moment their gimmicks are called out they'll almost always fold under pressure and can't adapt their game plan. They might be able to gimmick out a brand new player if they've been playing longer but they're definitely not equivalent to actual high level players.
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>>737195053
>KOF
Stop right there.
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>>737195070
No, anon, you don't get it.
They could be deranked yellow squares.
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>>737195070
That Green was a Bright Green bro. Not a Dark Green. He's winning games.
>the moment their gimmicks are called out they'll almost always fold under pressure and can't adapt their game plan.
And this is your Orange/Pink squares on 4chan talking about strategies no Blue or Green player will have, and they have no idea how stupid they appear while trying to get "beginners" to play they game.
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>>737194780
May 22nd to the 24th. Kind of annoying with Evo being in June this year but CB is always in May so that's on Evo, not sure why it couldn't be in August like normal. Only have done nationals back to back like that once ot twice before, it's mentally draining.
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never been to a big tournament before but i signed up for the biggest one in my region (atlantic canada, so still pretty small). i'm excited to drown in pools
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Blazblue is autism
The rerason why they hate game like Strive and Granblue is due to their skill level getting exposed in an environment that rewards fundamental skills over setplay autism
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I'll be there shortly, fellow ai battlehub enjoyers. I have to learn custom controls after finding out modern controls don't take away any health.
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>>737195605
Being an autism game is fine, we hardly get those these days.
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Dragon Ball battle hour is today. Possible DBFZ news incoming.
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>>737195272
>That Green was a Bright Green bro. Not a Dark Green. He's winning games.
Or he started off in bright green and just hasn't played against any other bright greens to either rank up or derank from it because Arcsys' color system is fucking stupid. Someone like the average green square Terumi player isn't DGF, he's going to have pressure that almost entirely consists of 5B>2C>j.2D with a couple of command grab attempts, he probably won't be able to do the 2A/5A link after 236D for his combos and if he's really advanced he'll go for 22CCCCC enders in the corner to frame trap you on wake up. These can definitely fuck up a new player that doesn't know how to deal with them but there's a vast difference between that and a good player.
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raped genre
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>>737195727
what even is the most autistic current fighter, its probably 2xko actually lol
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>>737195745
you mean that huge revival official tournament with all the legends?
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>>737195648
thank god every other game did chibi lobbies
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>>737194682
you are low IQ.
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I don't like how Strive fucked up PRC. It goes against Strive's idea of giving you freedom in exchange of meter. Now I'm not free even when I have enough tension for PRC
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>>737195861
Yess?
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Here me out: Strive's RC mechanic has a fuck ton of depth. Way more than the past games, especially Xrd garbage RCs
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what do you even call the archetpye of characters like hisui, faust and platinum?
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Lori Yagami? JOBBERED to CHADyo CHADsanagi
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>>737196205
Item characters.
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>>737196205
They're sometimes called "random item characters" but honestly I think despite sharing a similar move all three of those characters are pretty different overall.
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>>737196156
I agree. I think Strive's RC system is the best out of all the GG games, but the recent PRC change just sucks imo.
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>>737196156
But I like Xrd's yellow RC :(
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hmm... I think I will play Asuka's game today.
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>>737195963
And?
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>>737196382
no one else plays it?
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>>737196370
What did they too PurpleRCs?
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>YRCs
Damn, my neutch kinda nice tho
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>>737196507
They do?
I can find matches even during NEET hours
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>>737196684
good for you nigga
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>>737196584
You can't use it on throws, backdashes, and supers now
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Krauser actually looks sick I thought they redesigned him to keep the armor on but he goes for the older look.
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>>737189186
SF6, T8 or Strive simply because they have thousands of people online. You'll run into a wide range of players to match you at all skill levels.
Branch out into other games like BBCF or CotW only after you feel comfortable. Those games are perfectly fine, but someone brand new to the genre is going to be little more than a training dummy without another player willing to hold your hand.
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>>737196770
good that way
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>>737189186
honestly dont bother.
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>>737196837
i don't get the hate for cotws art honestly, well the stages are ugly. but the stylization is nice. it looks like a mid budget ps3 game but who cares
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>>737189186
Play -Strive- because Marvel Tokon is based off -Strive- mechanics and it's a new game coming in August and it will the be the most beginner friendly fighting game out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BWTcXjHtw
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>>737189186
This plus i could main a cute brown girl too
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anybody want to play an SNK game besides XV or COTW when I get out of the shower?
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>>737196837
/neog/
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>>737197519
i would play 98 or 2002 on any other day but its wrestlemania tonight and i've already taken an edible
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>>737189186
If there's one you like, play that. The worst thing you can do is burn yourself out playing garbage that you don't like because you feel you have to. That said, any of the big games will at least be easy to on-board yourself due to presence of low-level competition. Alternately Third Strike will always have plenty of scrubs on fightcade so you can play that game until you get good enough that you start to hate it.
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>>737197562
if you can talk about fagshit for eunuchs like soive then I can bring up based characters like Krauser.
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>>737195967
The more I play, the less I like 2.0

The PRC nerf feels like a cop out instead of deliberately targeting degenerate ones like Hammerfall PRC Pot Buster
The character changes are all over the place, HC looks just about as cancerous but they removed some of his free-form gameplay (some of it was cool), some characters like Unika even get buffed with more HKD and Projectile 6H
Don't get me started on what they did to Testament

System changes are hit or miss
Backdash BRC was cool and there was counterplay to it on offense, you could just delayed meaty or meaty with a very active move. Nerfs to scaling probably would have made instant overhead BRCs weaker
Not being able to RC reversal supers mid-combo is flat out fucking dumb and that's probably again to nerf Potemkin being able to RC Heavenly Pot Buster into killing you
Wild Assault removal is good, except some characters didn't really get compensations for losing it

You can also still get mix with BRC, and this doesn't have the drawbacks of PRC mix

Season 4.5 was very good aside from some sour spots, and instead of compressing the powerlevel towards the bottom and removing Wild Assault, they dragged everyone down equally, including lower-tiers

>>737196584
On top of what the other anon said, it also applies something like 40% proration to the next hit for a couple seconds, so mixups with it are borderline worthless
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what do you do in this scenario
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>>737189186
it won't teach you the ropes since it's a turn-based fighting game but if you're new to the genre I recommend Your Only Move Is Hustle. it's beginner friendly and very fun.
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>>737197460
ps3 games didnt look like that please take a second to check out your average SF4 character.
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>>737197693
What the fuck, Testament is cool?
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>>737190404
I fucking wish, maybe then I could actually get some 02UM games in but nobody here actually plays SNK games, they just claim that shitty of the wolves is actually good without ever explaining why.
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>>737189012
who are the best to watch besides smug and PL?
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>>737189012
is this nigga an SNK character or is he another guest from an obscure 40 year old anime?
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these fags thinking COTW looks great always cracks me up
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>>737197789
Some older SNK characters could very well BE characters in 80s anime but yes, he's a character from the first Fatal Fury games.
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>>737197789
Hes the first SNK boss character. Older than Geese.
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>>737197789
Is an SNK character for over 34 years.
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>>737197834
Right? XD
Le PS2 grafix! and all that
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>first SNK boss character
...
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>>737197884
>Geese debut
>Fatal Fury
>Krauser debut
>Fatal Fury 2

wut?
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i just don't get why people hate mid budget looking games, they used to be everywhere until last gen
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>>737197964
made you check bitch, lmao eat shit and sniff my ass
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watching Brian F lose to a master rank modern Luke named JesusIsKing
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>>737197981
I want to blame zoomies for that one but honestly, I know insufferable "muh grafix!!" retards have existed for as long as I remember so who the fuck knows.
It does seem to be worse now than before.
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>>737197724
there must be a mistake here I dont play parry slop
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>>737189925
As a Fightcade enjoyer I see no issue here.
>>737189186
Maybe Street Fighter Alpha 3/2 on Fightcade or SF6 if you don't want to bother with old games but honestly you can't go wrong with Alphas because they're kinda "perfect" fighting games that will let you get the hang of the basics (yeah I know they can be broken).
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>>737198148
>parries are... le bad!
Explain why
I'm curious about which YouTuber opinion you will parrot.
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>>737194682
If you're still ITT I'll play Savior or Hunter with you after I get out of the shower. I'm not terribly good at either but I can manage to pushblock sometimes anyway
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>>737198179
custom combos are probably too good but i don't mind, sf as a series has always been defined by having broken system mechanics that changes from game to game
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>>737198024
You must be 18 or older to post here.
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>>737198214
Viscant of course.
He btfo turd strike before you were even born.
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>>737198240
if you are not old enough to know Krauser or Rugal fuck off. Go back to SF6 or what ever other modern zoomer fighter you came from.
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>This is to SF/2-D fighting mind games what Green Eggs and Ham is to literature
I forgot how kino that post was
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>>737197848
>>737197884
>>737197892
alright, cool. it's a shame i even have to ask, though.
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The objectively best figting games series
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>>737198579
>Virtua Fighter sold more than Guilty Gear
>Guilty Gear sold more than King of Fighters
>Dead or Alive sold more than all of them
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>>737198579
>Naruto
I kneel.
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>>737197758
Testament was way more cool in the previous patch where you had better pressure and could even setup looping 4 way mix if you got the right hit

Arcsys noticed this could let Testament access some kind of win condition and nerfed the shit out of them
They also innovated and made probably the first ever Three-Step character

You get a safejump off Far Slash on block if they have Double Stain on now, which is kinda funny, but I'm really not convinced this makes up for everything the character lost in 2.0
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>>737197981
1. Most companies that make graphically mid tier games aren't SNK, a company who use to put out the peak of sprite art. This is probably controversal but I think KoFXIII looks ugly as shit and animates poorly but I would still probably take that over KoFXV or CotW
2. Models are inconsistent, Dong and Kevin are laughably bad.
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>>737198810
>This is probably controversal but I think KoFXIII looks ugly as shit
>Most male characters got unnecessarily buffed
>Yuri and Athena gets moefied
>XIII Mai is still the best Mai for me
Heh it's a complete ups and downs imo.
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>anons argue about green squares
>im always blue in ASW games
Haha....
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>>737198579
>Street Fighter barely made it into the Top 5
LOLOLOLOLOL
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>>737199123
The craftsmanship is terrific even if a little lopsided due to corner cutting but the artistry is definitely inconsistent. It's understandable that an animation might be a bit more modest than its final Neogeo predecessor due to budget and time constraints but I don't see why those concerns would have forced them to make King's arms into twigs.

Bit of a shame that Kula wound up being kind of useless (in the console version anyway) since she's probably one of the best-looking characters on the roster.
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>>737199613
>Bandai-Namco kileld soul Calibur because it didnt sell enough
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>>737198579
Naruto being the threshold is just fucking funny.
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>>737194283
+R isn’t dead, unless it died in the last few hours and I didn’t notice?
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>>737198579
the drop off after naruto is actually hilarious
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+R>3rd strike>bbcf>uni2>xrd>daemon bride>nitroplus blasterz>everything else>strive
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>>737198579
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>>737201830
looks ok
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>>737201830
Is THIS your hero?
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>>737202598
>slapping underage teen
>slapping the local prostitute
>slapping her wife
yeah hes based
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Being honest bros. I don't think I have the will to care about fighting games much longer. I dedicated my entire life to them. I even innovated in a few of them, discovering tech, all that noise during the 09er days. First my favorite games begin to casualize themselves for a bigger audience, that really upset me. But I thought to myself, "oh well, I have nothing to worry about, I still have my fighting games. They'll nev-" and we are here now. A full blown casual world. For example, seeing e-thots and normies playing my Armored Core, it's like I'm in another dimension. They don't know what it means to be a Link pilot. They don't know about second stage boosting, and they don't care about any of that stuff. As long as these casuals can come and monetize these games in some way that's all that matters to them. Every time I look around something of mine is being casualized. Even you guys don't care because you haven't been playing fighting games as long as someone like myself (since the 90s arcade era when I was a kid). I'm 35 now. I question why I'm in this thread.

I'm taking my talents to the Shmup genre. One of the last few hardcore genre out there. The closest normies ever got to shmups was Nier Automata and they don't even acknowledge the twin stick shooter mechanics in that game. They just call it an "Action JRPG" so we're safe from being casualized.

Castle of Shikigami 1CC
Danmaku Unlimited 1CC
Mushihime Sama 1CC
Dodonpachi 1CC
DOJ 1CC
But most importantly the big one SAIDAIOUJOU!!!! A feat only a few people have reached. I want to be one of them now. So to hell with fighting games.
There's also beat em up and character action games I can become great at.

I just want to say goodluck without me bros. I hope someday a 2000s fighting game will return for the last few holding on to straws can enjoy. I've given up. I was defeated by casualization. And I lack the passion to return to old fighters since I want to find a new life in gaming.
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>>737203596
forgot to mention I'm trans!
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>>737203751
trans community play shmups now? I have never seen them in archive shmup events
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>>737203596
bye
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>>737203596
New(?) pasta?
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>>737203596
didn't ask
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>>737203596
>1ccing shmups
Consider using that time on something productive like other people who gave up on fighting games.
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>>737206426
>like other people who gave up on fighting games.
The majority of people I know that quit fighting games just play gachas now.
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>>737206426
what >>737207089 said. they all play gacha and ffxiv mmos
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>>737203751
kek
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>>737207172
ffxix players are brain dead
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I played Strive today, had fun but then looked at my winrate and saw that it was below 50 percent so I'm sad again
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>>737207762
i have 18% hope it makes your day better
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>>737207724
>can't type the correct roman numeral even when he's directly quoting a post that includes it
>other people are brain dead
kek
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>>737208020
Well it doesn't but what it makes me is curious, who do you play and what rank are you anon?
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>>737209104
RP1 i picked the game two days ago
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>>737209339
Well dang anon then it's ok, of course you'll get better with time
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>>737189012
Go fuck yourself.
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>>737189925
more players then chatgpt of the wolves
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>>737209854
Obsessed
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>>737189012
I have been playing Puyo Puyo, VF5 and SF6 on the Switch 2. All we need is GranBlue and City of Wolves.
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>>737197486
Strive is your best option then.
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>>737189414
>starting fightan
>T8
lmao
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>>737209854
Wrong because City of Wolves is crossplay with consoles.
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>>737210296
i mean its like telling guy who wants into gambling start with slot machines its alright
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>>737210296
>N-NO! you shouldn't start with a game you can get right into, has a tutorial mode and hundreds of beginners because... Tekken 8 le bad!
OK buddy.
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>>737210427
Even Mario Kart is more Fighting Game than Tekken 8.
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Waited to play GGST 2.0 until now due to my powerline adapter dying. Wanted to be able to play after trying out the changes, and I thought it'd be good for info to build up.

God I actually almost wanna cry. Why do they hate Faust so fucking much. The saving grace of the patch for him was supposed to be that 236S can now be canceled early. In every expectation I had and heard from others, this was supposed to enable a lot for pressure off of 236S or new combo routes that didn't rely on meter or went for the existing ground-bounce.

Turns out, it does actually nothing. Scratch that: in 99% of situations, it will actually just fuck you up royal and be far worse for you than just letting the move end normally. Its only real purpose is to let you stop early when using it to wallsplat, and pick a better move for wallbreak.

Like hey, we fucked you over royal with the new universal system changes, so here's literally nothing that you can kill yourself with, and also by the way we're talking Afro's explosion with us. It was unfair that they had to respect entirely while on fire, and no we don't care that technically it's already been adjusted to be more fair for the afro'd player, as 236H losing throw invul means that just completely blocking the entire time didn't leave them open to getting the Afro refreshed.

I'm going back to +R and trying to get buddies to play Sonic Smackdown
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>>737210750
Yes, very valuable opinion.
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>>737210731
it's funny not merely because it's typical downbackfighterV, but because the shitty dictator refused to do more than try to chip him out
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>>737210832
What the fuck are you on about Faust has some of the most consistent and reliable conversions now on top of his item power being up in general
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messa go play retard plus because its epic boomer game i can larp about ok
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>he plays Ramlethal Valentine
>he picks one of the colors that give her pale skin
Literally what is the point?
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>>737210832
Afro sticking after being hit was prime bullshit and the only reason people didn't cry about it was because it's on fucking Faust
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>>737210832
cool sad story about your new move being slightly punishable on block, try having one of your core specials go from plus on block to punishable on hit
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>yoo fuck tekken 8 play some actual 3d
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>>737190604
>Too young to remember 9/11 as it happened but old enough to have seen all the jokes about it on old Youtube and Newgrounds
>Too young to experience Nintendo vs Sega but just old enough to remember Mario and Sonic in the same game being a pipe dream and not an entire spinoff series and the majority of smash games
>Get lumped with Kids born after the Wii and even 3DS

>>737200249
College friend had one of the GC Naruto games on Dolphin and it was actually pretty great. Fondly remember getting someone mad because they tried to zone me out but couldn't because Rock Lee had a full screen reaching ground stomp that causes a knockdown.
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>>737212049
I know who you are
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>>737198451
You wouldn't need to ask if you weren't underage and played other fighting games.
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>>737212049
tekken players won't find what they like in other 3d fighting games anyway. they're far better off working on t5dr rollback and/or yelling at bamco to remaster it with improved online
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First fighter I really got into is sf6 and overall it's been a fun learning experience and I hit master but lately the more I play the more I dislike it.
I would appreciate it if you could recommend me a game with lower damage and less frequent 50/50s. Other than sf6 I have only played sf2, tekken 3 and eternal champions mostly against the cpu while growing up
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>>737189918
>blocking a charged kaiser wave results in an instant overheat
my fucking king
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AYOOO I notice none of you niggas play MvC2 lmao. Niggas cant handle a grown man game. DA-MIX! The EXECUTION in that game is on a whole other level. You gotta have SUPER SAIYAN evecution to play that shit. The top tierest nigga in the game mago SENTINEL you need SUPER SAIYAJIN EXECUTION! even the low tier characters got high level execution. no anime niggas can touch MvC2. TRUE CASUAL FILTER HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
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I will paypal $100 to anyone that can pull off Khao's sentinel combo in practice
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>>737211697
Well, yeah? Faust deserved a tiny sprinkle of pure bullshit. He had no bullshit otherwise.
>>737211965
>cool sad story about your new move being slightly punishable on block
*about how system changes ruined not just two of your moves but by extension one of the core ways you're meant to tie together your pressure, but mongoloids like >>737211238 enjoy pretending everything is fine because now you can grab certain items from the air (wow!)

In return for an old move now getting the option to turn it from being minus to outright unsafe (extra wowzers!)
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>>737218012
I don't play this character but I've read a LOT of bitching about her in the 2.0 patch
She looked incredibly fucking gorilla to me before; gorilla in her base form, and EXTRA gorilla when powered up. Did she actually get significantly nerfed or are people just complaining that she's not retarded strong anymore?
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https://streamable.com/v4q8zy
I don't have a basic combo at the ready for that anon but I will show what I was practicing yesterday. You can see me realize in real time I need to add some breathing room to do the IAD before I input j.C.
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>>737217881
Literally every single actual pro Faust player is happy about the changes
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>>737189186
Don't pick strive
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>>737218135
She did get nerfed but in ways that legit get lessened hard by the universal and specific changes so what would've been a massive nerf for her just ended up being pretty minor which go for most of her changes
She's still a stupid gorilla and the reason it's all being overblown is the average A.B.A player is Tekken 8 season 2 enjoyer tier retarded
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>>737218639
Why not?
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>>737218135
Yeah she got hit hard which was confusing because she wasnt even particularly strong compared to some of the other cast. Basically, she wins by building meter with her key attacks when in her normal mode, then using that meter to go into an install which basically makes her one of the best characters in the game with good speed, mix ups, damage and combo potential. When she isnt in that stance(normal mode) though shes the complete opposite. Literally the worst character in game if she cant build meter. Long story short, they nerfed how much meter she starts with on round start, nerfed how much meter she can build with her normals, nerfed a lot of the startup on her moves in normal mode, and some other things. The PRC nerfs also hurt her more then the other characters because now she has a harder time finishing off the round since she cant use tension to continue combos without heavy damage drop off, meaning she could run out of her install meter. They also made it so that of she runs out of meter and falls back into normal mode, she cant block for 10 frames. Meaning if she gets juggled and runs out of meter mid combo, the opponent basically gets a free combo on your wakeup.

Some of the nerfs were understandable like the nerf to how much she starts off with at round start but everything else was way too much and now she struggles to build meter more then she used too and will likely die before ever even going into her install. And even if she gets meter, if she fucks up or cant end out the round it could very well be GG as she likely won't get another chance to build up meter again since normal mode is so bad without really good reads.
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>>737218756
>now she struggles to build meter more then she used too and will likely die before ever even going into her install.
Nigger Moroha isn't supposed to be free it's busted as fuck when active for a reason
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>People say Tekken 8 is le bad but people keep playing it
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>>737218905
I have Fab Gold shit like this. That dude is insane
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>>737218376 (Me)
Hold the fuck up is the reason I haven't been able to do j.C >Air Dash > j.C because I've been doing 96 after j.C instead of 66?
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anyone here play heritage for the future? i kinda want to pick it up to learn /myguy/ avdol, how is he?
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>>737218905
I HATE evil women
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>>737189012
BRITZ BAHL
REG TAMAHAUK

Will he still chisel our grave and tell us to sleep well?
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>>737219281
No, but he will tell you that Blood is thick, but syrup is thicker.
Think about it.
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>>737218904
It just recently got a "good" patch because of bamco taking notes on arcsys prompting more hopium on more "good" patches.
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>>737218905
oh shit actually he did try to Gold it you see it at the end. I wish he would have got it
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you're capcom, how are you nerfing drive rush without removing it from the game?
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>>737218904
This should not be very surprising but a significant amount of the "Tekken 8 bad" posts you see are made by people who don't play, never played and have no intention to play Tekken 8. Or any Tekken for that matter.
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>>737219414
this is the same with strive and sf6. why is this so common in the fgc
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>>737219414
A fuckton of actual pros quit over Tekken 8, especially the season 2 release patch
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>>737219457
Then they are not in the "Says the game is bad but still plays it" category, now are they.
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>>737218904
They simply like the game too much to quit over bad balance updates. Same with SF6.
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>>737218904
MK1 is dogshit in all aspects and it still sold 8 million copies.
Are you really surprised that people will continue to support garbage as long as it has their favorite brand name slapped on it?
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>>737219443
Trying to claim that all the people who are saying that the 3 most popular fighting games out right now are shit are people that haven't played them is some wild cope.
What games do you think these people are playing instead?
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>>737214553
>t5dr rollback and/or yelling at bamco to remaster it with improved online
Someone better recompile Tekken 6 and Tag2 and find more people to make rollback netcode a reality

>>737218904
Casuals like it, they put the money for cosmetics and season pass.
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>>737219443
we like to shitpost :)
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>high level olg gg
>someone elses webm
>Strive
>their own webm with names hidden
>xrd
>nonexistent
So from my understanding its EU niggers that hate Xrd and is always shitposting about Xrd. But why do you hate Xrd?
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>>737220912
>But why do you hate Xrd?
not an EUfag but I have been a long time Xrd hater.
Been saying for over a decade now that Xrd is just a watered-down version of XX with new shitty mechanics tacked on that only gets praise because of the graphics. I also hate all the newcomers in that game, they look like Blazblue rejects.
I unironically like Strive more than Xrd, because that at least feels like it's own thing like GG1 or GG2 were. Xrd is the only game that tries to copy the previous greatness, and does it extremely poorly.
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>>737218904
3D fighting games are in a bad situation where if you really like one series then you won't find something like it in any of the competition, no matter how far back you go. Not that the support for older games is remotely comparable to what you have in 2D fighters.
Plus they hate what Tekken 7 became in its last few years almost as much as they do 8.
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>>737218580
Congrats, today is the day where you find out that any personality in the FGC will just say whatever for content. It's odd that it took you this long to find out, especially since Strive already had such laughable moments as when "every single actual Strive pro" was saying dumb shit like "whoa Goldlewis being half circles will be such a high level execution challenge when he comes out," but whatever. Everyone gotta find out sometime I guess.
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>charged Kaiser Wave builds 85% rev on block
>also you can't JD it
What the fuck?
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Man why the fuck did they think it was a good idea to let other characters tag in mid combo for extensions in DBFZ? I just had a guy tag someone in after Goku Black's foot dive and then it just kept going. The game was already aggressive but holy shit. I can only manage to reflect so much before I just get overwhelmed.
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>>737189782
Kino
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>>737220912
It's not just eufags and see the 1st reply to you. People have hated it for those exact reasons mentioned since it released but those people just got drowned out by the kinds of people who would unironically watch IK videos and make comments about how they love watching the game but haven't played it.
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>2.0 sent May even deeper and further into irrelevance
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxKO-p03ApE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfFt3BbMDQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkACqm74Ud0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYXEOVlshkM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK2esGnrng8
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i only play bbcf, but yesterday's session showed me that i need to get me a stick and stop playing on pad anymore after thumb cramping issues ensued mid session in a ft10 against someone
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>>737213221
noone but illegal imports play these games
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>Day 1 of actually learning Strive
>cap out at bottom of Plat 1
>well this is about as good as I'll get
>Day 3 of playing Strive
>somehow start winning a lot more out of nowhere
God damn I feel like I'm just getting carried by Unika. I probably am.
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>>737225661
OK zoomie
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>>737225808
unc be tryin to flex his backpain on me lmao
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>>737225881
At least I got the chance to live long enough to develop chronic pain, you are getting sent to die in the Middle East soon enough kek
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>>737189186
he said good
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>>737225965
i'll be taking out more homies than there are players of snk games
which won't take long kek
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>>737189186
strive is the best newbie fighter if you really need something easier to get into

mechanically easy and simple with just enough depth to be enticing
sf6...
tl;dr strive just removed a mechanic called wild assault because it was introduced to help newbies but it could be abused to smother new players 10x as efficiently. sf6 is wild assault the game
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>>737218135
nothing she does in moroha at the moment justifies her being the only character in the game who eats guaranteed optimal punishes for being forced to block
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Play a Valentine
Preferably Elphelt
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>>737228443
sorry i can only play as their drunk step-brother
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>>737228537
Also good.
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All modern fighting games are fucking dogshit and you shouldn't play any of them if you have a ounce of self respect.
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>>737200578
+R isn't dead but it is a terrible suggestion for someone asking for a game for a beginner.
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+R is a great fighting game, avoid strive and xrev
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>>737228687
Post 10 seconds of you playing +R
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>>737197693
HC does not look as cancerous, and yes I have seen his zoning now. I'd still rather fight the new HC over the old one any day. I won't speak for his players because I'm sure he's less fun now, but he was intolerable to fight before and the apologia and 'I bet you wish you had the old HC now' from his players is ridiculous.
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>>737228850
I'm so fucking glad the genre and the site is fucking dead and buried and never forget that you guys killed it with your dogshit attitude.
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>>737203596
based clayton
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>>737228928
...so that's a no on the 10 seconds clip.
Hours? Can you post those or is the whole thing just a LARP?
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>>737228959
Kill yourself stupid fucking retard.
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>>737220912
I'm an EUfag and I have a soft spot for Xrd but I don't play it anymore. I still think it's a great game.
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>>737229024
Not even than then kek
OK then, thanks a lot for the suggestion to play +R, person who TOTALLY actually plays it and is not just doing performative "modern Guilty Gear... le bad!" shtick.
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>>737229071
Kill yourself
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+R is fun but I'm very on-and-off with it because it's hard to beat the convenience of playing a modern game. I like all Guilty Gear though.
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>>737228590
Pretending to play old fighting games is even more embarrassing, but /v/ does it all the time.
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like 90% of why I don't play ACR more often despite enjoying a lot about it is because no dash macro, 66 inputs aren't impossible or anything but they'll never feel GOOD to me in a game where smooth movement is so important
i remember playing chivalry back in the day and being disgusted by the dodge input being double tapping a direction and my feeling hasn't really changed there
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>>737229170
Feel free to fuck off then tourist, we don't need subhuman garbage like you
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>>737229457
You don't play modern fighter OR old fighters you attention starved faggot, shut the fuck up.
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>>737229505
Kill yourself
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I played Strive for like 10 hours a long time ago, I remember people saying Zato-1 was trash, too heavily nerfed after being really good initially or something.
How is he now?
He's cool as fuck and he has the best animations I've seen in that game, I kind of want to learn him.
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>>737229990
he's a bit better these days, aba may have stolen bottom 1 from him
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>>737229990
Who cares game is dogshit and only trannies play it
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>>737189012
What fighting game has the best UI?
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>>737230023
So he's still struggling then?
Fair enough. I am very unlikely to leave Gold/Plat ranks and I imagine he'll do just fine there anyway.
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>>737230023
>>737229990
>>737230116
This is not a normal conversation , performative as fuck. No one likes or plays strive in here.
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Yah bro i totally play strive the one for trannies? Yeah and sf6 TOTALLY bro not completely dead games for a dead genre
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what are some non-woke fighting games?
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>>737219353
>Bamco kneels to arcsys
Kek nice. But it's too late for them since they lied multiple fucking times.
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>>737230771
Grow up loser
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>>737219353
Why is "good" in quotation marks?
I have not seen a Hwoarang player all week, this was a great patch.
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>>737230445
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>>737231045
Tekken 8 is garbage
All modern fighting games are garbage

Street Fighter killed fighting games
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>>737230445
Trannies quake in their boots when a +R player is near.
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>>737231045
They neutered heat especially launchers and nerf most characters which is great but it's still have a long way to go which HOPEFULLY they learned their lesson and keep the streak of good patches.
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i fucking love sf6
everyone just holds back and crouches. I love wasting 90 seconds per round on one of the scrubbiest most dogshit games ever made
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>>737231217
>>737231045
They nerfed my Jack's gamma howl 1 on heat. I respect that.
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You need to be mentally ill to take sf6 and modern fighting games seriously. Tranny defending strive makes sense, it's all they got.
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>>737231375
Even before this last patch they nerfed Asuka Kazama, the only character I play.
I can also respect it, I know she was gorilla as fuck.
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>>737189186
As a complete newb to 2D fighters I initially learned with KOF95 and Heritage for the Future and then moved onto other games. Just pick whatever makes you say "hell yeah".
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>>737231540
I feel like I have to play a different Asuka in terms of approach. I also probably have to rely on reversals and sabakis more.
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>>737231737
That sounds about right.
I am not good at the game and I am too prone to autopilot/flowchart so I can't really say HOW Asuka is supposed to approach people now, but your post sounds about right.
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>>737231640
Prob best for him to try out Fightcade? Get used to 2D fighting games
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>>737228612
I started with it and I think I learned much more from it than I did strive or sf6
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>>737231132
This is true. Walked by a strive local once and the building started shaking.
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>>737232534
I'm sure you did if you started with it, someone who started with one of those games would learn more from them though. I started with Xrd personally and though it worked fine for me, I wouldn't consider that a good beginner's game either, especially not now. If someone is specifically seeking a game for beginners they aren't going to want a game with a relatively high skill-floor and small, dedicated playerbase. They'll want something easy to understand with a wide variety of players of different skill levels, and +R is not that.
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>>737232534
You won't learn anything from sf6 , strive or tekken 8, they have no fundamentals no neutral no links no combos. Learning to play sf6 only allows you to play sf6 and sf6 is a dogshit game that kills the soul
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>>737232623
>. If someone is specifically seeking a game for beginners they aren't going to want a game with a relatively high skill-floor and small, dedicated playerbase

Why not? Not everyone is a fragile transexual like you retard. Stop posting anytime.
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>>737232678
Because those things are not conventionally beginner-friendly and so nobody who specifically clarifies they're looking for something for beginners would want those things. If someone wanted to play +R for its own merits I wouldn't dissuade them, but only a delusional retard would have it be the first game that comes to mind when they think 'beginner-friendly'.
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>>737232725
Didn't read. Sure thing tranny
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>>737218904
what other option do they have
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>>737232623
It depends on what you’re looking for I guess. I stuck with +R because it was more fun despite being harder, and I think newer games give you a bad idea of the genre due to their attempts at accessibility. Replay takeover is also huge and strive doesn’t have that. I may not have even stuck with the genre if strive or sf6 were my entry points.
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>>737232725
>replying to the retard who has been desperately trying to shit up the thread for hours now
You are doing this to yourself.
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>>737232725
I think the way newer games are “beginner friendly” doesn’t make them “good entry points”.
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I remember a tranny chimping out in third strike fightcade cause everyone was smurfing according to the loser. He was in E playing against D rank players. Grifters, they just want to kill the hobby
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Got a funny story I thought y'all might just appreciate. So I had just finished a serious workout with my bros and when we're all worked up like that, we gotta let off the steam with some fighting. So yeah, you know it, we boot up +R. All of a sudden this fuckugly, stinking troon comes up and we're all just looking at each other like 'What the fuck has the world come to, man?'

So anyway, he, and make no mistake, this was a HE, starts mouthing off. "Ooh, ooh, that's Brisket's game! Oh, but why don't you play Strive instead, it's so much more accessible and transfriendly..." My bro is about ready to challenge the troon in soive just to put him in his place, but I flag him down. With a wry little chuckle: "Let me take care of this"

So I square up to the troon, right? "Oh, you like 'Brisket's' game, huh?" He nods, all hopped up thinking he's some anime girl, even though the bounciest thing about him is his Adam's Apple. So I look to him. "That's cool. I main Order-Sol." The troon goes agape. "Order... huh? There are characters other than Brisket and Testament?" I crack my knuckles. "Damn right there are. Let me teach you a little something about Order-Sol, little troonie."

TY!
I uppercut the troon right in his stubble-laden jaw...
RANT!
A vicious gut punch right where he wishes his womb was...
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE!
'Course, I couldn't get that iconic explosion at the end of Level 3 Tyrant Omega in real life, so I settled for taking the troon's head in my two hands and squeezing hard before flinging him across the room just like the explosion would have.

What did I do after that? Got back to playing some good-ass +R with my bros, of course. And I gotta say, as invigorating as it was to put the troon in his place, nothing beats the adrenaline and rush of playing +R with your bros.
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>>737233204
Was it something like “conqueror of light”?
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>>737233247
Holy based
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What an hours damn.
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>>737218904
>People say Tekken 8 is le bad but people keep playing it

Read.
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>>737233330
Thank god capcom hired vtubers and indians to promote SF6 and create hype. If SFV and SF6 didn't kill the IP then nothing will.
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>>737233247
>Sick
>Still playing +R and still finding hidden Ky tech
>Even when he didn't play Strive much often he still labs and examine techs at will
Clayton sama I kneel.
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>>737233330
(they never called it that in japan)
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>>737233393
Street Fighter has Final Fantasy armor. It can keep pumping out shit because everyone just buys it because it is the place to be.
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SFV is excellent, and it was the last actual SF game.
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>>737220225
>>737214553
there's Arkadyzja or whatever but it doesnt have a linux build so idk if its good or not
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>>737220912
they hate xrd because it's the first gg game you could actually play
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>>737233621
Why do I hate YRC and danger time again?
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>>737222454
he is the first boss character of snk
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Why is Baiken missing an arm?
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>>737234071
Either from when Justice nuked Japan or a Gear attack in general, I don't recall
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>>737234071
Lost her arm and eye during a gear invasion.
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>>737194682

I'll be going to CB (8th year). Bought my plane tickets and registration this week. Money issues aside, I'll just be spectating and volunteering. Hoping to grind out as much KI / UMVC3 casual sets as I can.
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>>737212049
I'll never understand Tekken on a fundamental level. DOA and VF make sense, but that's what happens when you've played them all your life as your 3D fighters.
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>>737233751
>YRC
it eats inputs. But Strive RCs also eat inputs too so if you Xrd RCs you hate Strive RCs too
>danger time
Who knows. You will see this shit once every 100 games so I don't get the hate
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>>737218904
What else is there to play? DOA6? Fuck no. And VF5 is going through an identity crisis between complaints about the online breaking and the recent patch changing A LOT. So for better or worse Tekken 8 is the best option.
>but what about Soul Calib--
Tekken 8 is the best option.
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>>737220912
I play +R but not enough and not well enough to get a bunch of cool clips (apart from jank interactions, or being put in sidewinder loops)

Xrd borders on being unplayable, you can check right now and there'll be like 10 players in rooms, and the lobby system is a billion times worse so finding someone to fight is a chore
I also don't think it's different enough from +R to warrant dealing with the shitty online, excluding new characters

>>737228907
I'd still rather fight current HC but it's like saying throat cancer is preferable to testicular cancer
At least the new HC looks harder for bad players to steamroll people with retarded offense, but I don't think it's a very good rework
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why don't shoto players have any character loyalty
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>>737235610
I remember that April Fool's
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>>737238398
shotos are in essence extremely interchangeable with each other with similar gameplans and gameplays and most games have multiple of them so they will just go for the one that is currently the best of the patch they just be bitches like that

just look at sf6 where shotofags went from luke to ken to akuma to ryu to now sagat they just wanna win and nothing else

(the few sakurafags that play the game are an exception and just want to have sex with her thus they are extremely loyal to her)
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>>737238398
What if there was a FG without Shotos? Were almost there already.
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>>737239768
Jack O is a lucky woman.
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How do you get good at instant blocking?
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SV5 gets redeemed every day.
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>>737239852
by blocking its just reaction based
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>>737235889
>>but what about Soul Calib--
>Tekken 8 is the best option.
okay stay eating shit then
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>>737239852
If you’re on leverless while blocking tap forward release it while still holding back, very safe way to IB.
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>>737239852
releasing block in a true blockstring has no risk involved because of block carryover, so you can always attempt it
if you're on leverless you can hold down+back and tap forward, this will be interpreted as down and it lets you get IBs while still blocking low
some strings can't be delayed so ideally you should always be attempting to IB them
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What happened to the FGC? A certain fighting game I play is PLAGUED with so many fuckers online saying such scrubby things and legit blaming shit that's an actual skill issue. Instead of people calling them out though, they just circlejerk about how the game director got their mom sent to the hospital because it was the 5th time timmy ruined the basement. Like this isn't even FGC thuggery anymore, shit feels like a bunch of fucking whiners controlling the scene now.
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>>737241105
the currentday FGC is more interested in sharing your doxx to learn about you than actually spending any time playing a game with you
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>>737241621
expected the one where Shermie lifts her leg and K9999's Tetsuo arm comes out of her skirt
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>>737241621
i'm glad they keep making shermie thiccer in every new game
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>>737241621
ow
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Any of the resident KOFers been in this thread? I know there's a few who come sometimes and play.
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>>737240149
I'm a Virtua Fighter player.
>didn't you just say that game's going through shit
Ride or die since 1994.
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>>737196156
that's obvious and i don't think anyone besides the most retarded posers argued otherwise. +R just has normal rc and frc is just prc but more limited and annoying to pull off, xrd yrc is mega cancer. Strive rc system is way way better and flexible
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>>737242973
Didn’t they just put stuff like dead angle into rc for strive?
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>>737243038
uh? no
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>>737242973
I don’t see how frc is really annoying to pull off outside of the ones that change depending on whiff/block/hit. Gunflame frc is the tightest window and I rarely miss it and I can tell it was my mistake.
>>737243089
I haven’t played much of strive but isn’t yrc in it just the “get off me” mechanic? Although I guess deflect shield does it too.
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>>737220912
for starters i fucking despise the artstyle and the way faces are drawn. I think it's the worst of the bunch and i don't like how like blazblue it looks
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>>737243219
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>>737243038
Dead Angle got changed into YRC
So now instead of having character specific hitboxes and varying reward, every YRC loses to the same low-recovery options, and they're always a spaced Guard Crush +10 situation that often prevents mix (This got changed because Happy Chaos used to be able to start pressuring you from YRC)
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>>737229087
larp larp sahur!
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>>737218012

>strive redesign

yuck
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>>737243163
yeah but it's not dead angle. It resets to neutral
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>>737243339
long and green is better. There are already plenty of short air and red heads
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>>737243420
wrong. short hair is always better, cuter, sexier. long hair is for bimbos. green is gross. red is always aesthetically pleasing
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>>737218135
She got nerfed but ABA players are also absolute bitches

>>737226746
>nothing she does in moroha at the moment justifies her being the only character in the game who eats guaranteed optimal punishes for being forced to block
Nagoriyuki gets TOD'd for fucking up his resource management
ABA in moroha has the best neutral in the game, fucked up mix, good pressure, great conversions, and a full ass neutral skip super, and you have far more control over your resource than Nago
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>>737240291
you need last input socd for that right?
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>>737189012
Now sajam's unapologetic shilling for 2xko makes sense. Homie wasn't trying to lose that redbull payout.
Maybe one day people will stop letting conflict of interest dictate the FGC creator space.
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>>737189186
there is no good modern fighting game
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>>737243719
Content creators are the most viscid and incoherent bitches alive but the FG ones are something else entirely.
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that schizo is having a melty lmao
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>>737243518
Seriously, it's ridiculous how they barely changed anything about her but still made it so much worse. And made Paracelsus into goop.
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>>737244242
goopcelsus is cool, gives some dorohedoro vibes. You boomers are just contrarian shittasters
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>>737244336
You are crazy lil sis
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>>737244407
like pottery
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>>737244336
we no longer us the B****R word, we now say unc
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>>737212049
>characters move quickly without having to KBD or wavedash
>sidestep actually covers some distance and is pretty fast
>no flashy rage mechanics or super armor spam
I don't see the problem other than some shitter ragequitting, but that's a problem with gamers being fickle.
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>>737244636
Feels like rage quitting is a much more common practice nowadays.
And if they don't outright leave, you'll get that quiet quit shit where they just put down their controller and wait for you to beat them.
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>>737218904
Tekken players are heroin addicts with stockholm syndrome. They complain all the time about how much it sucks, they don't enjoy playing it, and they go back for more every day begging Namco for more even when Namco has told them again and again they won't make it better.
In addition, Tekken players don't actually like fighting games, they like Tekken.
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>>737244936
This is true. Aris gets a melty whenever someone tells him to plat Virtua Fighter which is the correct opinion. VF lets you sit back and poke button mashers into oblivion. If a guy is mashing buttons in VF, then they can't catch up to you. You can't do that in Tekken which is why it's a fraud game. Even in SF6, you can kill flowchart Ken with ease. Tekken goes overboard with rewarding retarded plays.
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All the Xrd haters here got filtered by a complex 2010s games. That's the most hilarious shit ever. Rev2 is fucking amazing all around. It was the first time I could play I-No and Zato since I started playing back during Reload. I remember seeing the reveal trailer and drooling when they spun the camera around. I thought it was 2D and could not believe the graphics on display. Currently a Jack-O main.

AC+R is easily the best game in the series although I truly hate what they did to Millia and loved her AC routes since they were more fun to do. Having the execution to play I-no in AC+R is my biggest feat ever. It gives me such a high. No one ever complains when we fight they see me pull off one of the most technical things in the games and it's nothing by flowers thrown at my feet. I also love AC+R Johnny and Sol is the best Sol in the entire series. Playing Sol is like playing Dante in DMC. You're just styling on fools the whole time.

Strive is a disgrace to the series that took me some time to get over. Strive is alright now I guess. I'm one who has pride in being able to adapt under all conditions. I found A.B.A to fit that quota in Strive for me. Once she came out I gave the game another try and I haven't stop playing since.

Overall scores:
AC+R = S after 3000 hours (if we include AC then it's 1000 higher)
Rev2 = A+ after 7000 hours
Strive = B+ after 2000 hours
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>>737219414
>This should not be very surprising but a significant amount of the "Tekken 8 bad" posts you see are made by people who don't play, never played and have no intention to play Tekken 8
Sounds like they're based and don't have stockholm syndrome.
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>>737245127
I've mostly played +R. I think like 3000 hours too. I've been thinking about getting into xrd and strive a bit more although I've mostly just messed around in them. Thinking Leo in strive, and either Leo or Raven in xrd.
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>>737245127
>All the Xrd haters here got filtered
Yeah, I got filtered by how shitty Xrd is.
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>VF lets you sit back and poke button mashers into oblivion
lol
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>>737245127
Yeah, but if you're playing Strive and winning online that means you've made some trannies 48% themselves. Imagine if they knew that they lost to an Anon from 4chan? The guys who ragequit against you likely killed themselves on the spot.
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>>737241105
current games are dogshit you are the wrong one.
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>VF lets you sit back and poke button mashers into oblivion
No lies detected
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>>737245127
>AC+R = S after 3000 hours
>Rev2 = A+ after 7000 hours
Why did you spend 4000 more hours playing a shittier game?
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why do Kekken turds get so defensive when people talk about VF?
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>>737241105
>What happened to the FGC
I don't fucking know. I just play the games and avoid the community.
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>>737245285
Yeha, you got filtered and you've told us multiple times. Just like how we all got filtered by Strive
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>>737245408
it would be ok if the so called VF players actually ever played VF.
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>>737240379
>>737240291
>>737240013
Thanks, ill take that to mind.
My only thing is that I'm a pad player, but I heard that alternaring between 1 and 2 works for crouch blocks at least without letting go
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>>737245408
Because backdashing is actually fast in VF so you're not forced into a 50/50 with button mashers. In Tekken, you're forced into the 50/50 whether you like it or not. It's a casino game complete with flashy effects like a pachinko machine.
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>>737245407
>Why did you spend 4000 more hours playing a shittier game?
Because I played a good game at release on my PS3, then I played Rev1, then Rev2, then Rev2 Steam Rollback Edition. I also own AC+R on PS3 which I'm sure you and most people have never touched since it took a fuck long time for the +R patch to drop and it dropped without any fucking notification whatsoever.
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>>737245436
>Just like how we all got filtered by Strive
Strive did a great service by filtering out all the poser Xrd and XX players now that GG isn't some unknown IP anymore.
Now they've shifted over to being poser Blazblue players.
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>>737245479
Yeah you want to just quickly roll your thumb over 1 and 2 on pad to IB lows and mids and switch to tapping and releasing 4 when you want to block overheads and mids.
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>>737245125
The best and most unbeatable playstyle for the entire first year of Tekken 8 was to pick Dragunov and mash WR2 and occasionally throw in a low poke, then if you get disrupted just press heat burst and heat smash. I would love to see someone try to play with such a braindead style in VF. Or in DOA where they would get killed with just pure holds.
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>>737245494
I hate 3v3 tag fighters. 2v2 is the limit for me.

>>737245579
Jokes on you, I like Strive and AC+R. But I could never get into Xrd.
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>>737245579
I don't think anyone wants to be associated with the group strive is popular with kek
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>>737245494
I WILL WATCH DB BATTLE HOUR TODAY FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENT OK.
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>>737245645
Oh shit, I forgot that's happening. I wonder if there's any news on Sparking Zero survival mode and the DLC mode
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>>737245579
Question for Japan anon; what do we call Strive filtering the entire Japanese Xrd and XX community and Japan as a whole losing to trannies each year? What's the term we used to make fun of Japan?
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>>737243662
You don't actually, because you just need to stop blocking, so the neutral input will work too. I use last input though.
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>arguing over anime fighters
That's like trying to figure out which turd stinks the least.
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>>737245790
I dunno, but if Japan loses to trannies and the trannies are losing to Anons then that means 4chan/v/ has the strongest Strive players.
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>>737245790
Bigoted, those players are bigoted for not coming to strive.
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>>737245790
>What's the term we used to make fun of Japan?
SF6 players.
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>>737245843
dead on arrival
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>LIke KoF
>Only care for one character, so I always lose if I lose my point
How much do I have to give Saudis to convince SNK to make a non-team KoF?
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>>737245843
Still don't get why invincible even got a fighting game when it doesn't have a single good character
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>>737245951
it already exists its called fatal fury.
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>>737245843
I only ever saw EU pro players hating Xrd and this place. Meanwhile America and Japan loved it. And even here the majority of Xrd haters are from EU. That was during the time EU had some publishing issues for Arc games right? I remember Persona having some issues. Is that the true reason?
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>>737245843
The same for tag fighters too. Fortunately 2Xpeepee takes the crowns on being stinks the most.
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>Don't have fun guys, you MUST play competitively!
This is what I get from this thread and most of the FGC.
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>>737246009
I don't think you know what you're talking about. Having fun in a fighting game environment is the equivalent of taunting, tea bagging, and styling on your opponent. Not being some fucking casual with brain damage mashing buttons.
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>>737245981
No. Fatal Fury's roster is fucking garbage, and every character people gave a minute shit about was put into KoF already.
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Give me Tokon IMMEDIATELY or I will crash this genre with no survivors.
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>>737245954
>2 million matches in 2 days
>i-its gonna flop
This isn't Xrd bro.
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My CF friends started playing some +R and we've been having a good time.
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>>737246252
looks like bullying to me. he wont be playing for long
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>>737246232
XX flopped too. Why'd you leave out XX? you should see the sales on both XX and Xrd lmao
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>>737246301
CF is the same way.
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>>737246178
suffer then, faggot.
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>>737246178
>Fatal Fury's roster is fucking garbage
Why weren't you guys saying that Garou's roster was garbage back before CotW? It's only now that I'm seeing people say that Fatal Fury characters suck.
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>>737246301
He was giggling like a retard the whole time he was playing, he'll be fine
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>>737246375
you mean every time you play each other you're just shitting on him? and you got him wasting money on other games just for him to get shitted on again? You are truly some friend. It would be better if you get him to play something neither one of you play like Chaos Code, Nitro+Blaster, Blade Strangers, Blade Arcus, etc. At least there you can be on even playing fields bro.
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cotws roster is pretty alright now with geese, mary and krauser.
shouldve added those earlier.
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>>737246441
SNK characters in general are lame as fuck and have no sauce.
People have been saying that for years.
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>>737246441
Other than Geese, Terry and Mai, nobody cares about FF characters.
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>>737246441
this meme mindbroke zoomers
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>Another SNK character design debate
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>>737246441
And when was the last Garou game released prior to CoTW, go on, tell us.
Nobody mentioned Garou's roster before because no one gives a shit about Garou.
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>>737245494
i don't like tag fighters and i don't like dragonball. Like i don't like marvel and will keep playing strive when tokon comes out
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Just got strive as my first fightan
How do I play Chipp zanuff?
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I genuinely don't get the CotW hate. I played the beta and found nothing wrong with the game. The graphics are the best SNK ever put out too. Very colorful game. They came a long way since KOF14. Game is fast pace too while not reaching anime crazy levels. I don't see the logic behind hating it so much outside of that annoying SNK faggot who comes here.
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>>737245494
Is Daima SSJ4 out yet?
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>zooms will look at pic and say this looks boring
How do we make Fatal Fury characters more appealing to the modern audience?
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They genuinely fucked up by not having this nigger in the launch roster.
Instantly lost the potential Akuma audience by replacing one of the strongest motw designs with the worst.

Inb4 some latinx tells me that muh story matters
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>>737246892
DB Battle hour possible release date announcement today.
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>>737245839
ah i see. But it's not quick tap, more like hold the opposite direction and release before the moves hit to get back to block, otherwise takes too long
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>>737246890
the hate is definitely performative, but i think its main problem is that it is extremely basic and in a world where sf6 is eating up a lot of the market share and is also pretty basic theres just no room for it to grow a base
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>>737246894
>>737246908
Now post a pic of the boring karate nigger
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>>737246976
Calling Cotw "basic" then what do you call MotW? CotW has more mechanics than MotW by the way. I am curious how you're going to glaze MotW as being so much better than CotW now.
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>>737189012
im a huge snkfag and i do love shity of the wolves, but man i always get so demotivated seeing the character select. its so fucking ugly and we have those two bozos taking up slots

>>737189186
sf6 or fightcade.
unrelated. i tried to play aracana hearts 3x but its just flat out broken. the steam version that is. framerate just breaks lmao
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>>737245645
I think the whole tournament they arranged feels so weird. They didn't need to do all that just to promote SS4 Goku. Almost feels like there's something bigger in store.
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>>737246894
you can't, these fucks are literal who with no cultural relevance in 30 years who look appealing and cool only for people in their 40s
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>>737247087
i didn't mean it that way, i just meant that it was a pretty normal fighting game all things considered that isn't really doing anything that other games aren't also doing, i LIKE COTW a lot but if you're a fan of classic style 2d fighters most people are just gonna play SF6 or stick to their old games
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>>737246894
M.Bison ripoff
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>>737247105
It's more than DBFZ and Sparking Zero. They also going to reveal that age 1000 dragon ball game which is probably just Xenoverse 3. Maybe we'll also get new content reveal for DBFZ after SS4 Goku Daima.
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>>737246976
Yeah, everything that currently occupies a major space in fighting games rn also occupies a certain niche in their subgenre, like tag/assist, anime, 3D. Pretty much everything SNK makes is adjacent to the space that SF is already in.
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>>737189012
In SF6 is JP my best bet to zone? Also is Elena any good in it? I've been thinking about finally getting it
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>>737247185
What exactly do you want CotW to be doing, like, give us an example. When you compare the new and old games CotW is offer more while keeping things intact. If you're a MotW fan CotW isn't trying to alienate the old players. So I don't even get this weird complaint everyone has about CotW lacking stuff and being to "basic" as you said.
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>>737246749
>hunded hours spent researching peruvial culture
kek and look at azucena being le quirky coffe girl because le dae coffe come from le andeans
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>>737247364
i don't know man, i was just explaining why its struggling. i like the game. i'm not a game designer. i don't even know if theres anything you can do. i guess focus entirely on the lane battles?
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>>737247359
Why is SNK so hellbent on making the biggest flops possible? FF is already a literal who franchise and AoF is that x100.
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>>737247446
>i was just explaining why its struggling
Ok then what do those people say the game is lacking and what does it need?
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>>737247534
>Ok then what do those people say the game is lacking
nta
>Graphics are ugly, it looks like a PS2 game
>Roster isn't interesting, SNK characters are boring
>Gameplay isn't beginner friendly
>Needs a more robust single player mode
>Online needs to work right away, the first beta having matchmaking issues killed the game
>Not putting real life celebrities in your game
>Not being owned by Saudis

Fix all that and they will still not play your game.
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>>737247534
it needs to not be viewed as temu sf6 by casuals
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>>737247020
he's based though
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SNK is nothing more than a little sister to Capcom that get a tiny bit of acknowledgment. And to be completely honest Capfags just want Capcom to buy SNK fully so that Capcom has the rights to those characters. That's how it has always been. People don't want to play SNK games, they want SNK characters in Capcom games. That's why CotW is "too basic".
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>>737247364
>When you compare the new and old games CotW is offer more while keeping things intact. If you're a MotW fan CotW isn't trying to alienate the old players.
Where Freeman? Where Grant? Where Mai default costume? Where Blue Mary default costume? Wdym rising tackle is not a charge anymore? Still play the game though.
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>>737247217
Yeah I get that it's a dragon ball event, but for dbfz specifically they could sell daima Goku by just showing the gameplay trailer. Maybe I'm out of touch but a tournament featuring all generations of competitive dbfz players isn't going to appeal to people outside the fgc. More content reveals would have it make more sense.
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>>737247109
these posts are so funny when I remember how hard dogshit designs like marisa were being forced when sf6 came out.
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>>737247709
>they want SNK characters in Capcom games
They want Mai. Everyone else can get shelved.
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>>737246894
Can't. Look at how every other dev finds it necessary to redesign most characters. The new generation doesn't have any familiarity with the things the genre used as inspiration.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WOTePaorvM
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>>737247737
marisa is unironically better than 90% of new snk characters released since kofxiv and i don't even like her
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>>737247938
lmao you're making your mentally ill obsession too obvious.
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>>737247938
tuff
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>>737247972
what am i obsessed over? i don't even know what you're talking about sorry. i like snk games, but cmon bro shun'ei, the pillow faggot and xanadu are horrible
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>>737247649
>Graphics are ugly, it looks like a PS2 game
You can't be taken serious
>Roster isn't interesting, SNK characters are boring
I disagree. SNK games especially KOF offer some of the best universal mechanics I have seen in a fighter.
>Gameplay isn't beginner friendly
You can't play the game for fun?
>Needs a more robust single player mode
I can't even take this serious. Have you seen Strive? Single player is watching a manga. Have you seen SFV? What singleplayer? You are legit comparing this to one game, SF6. SF6 didn't have a choice, they had to focus more on Singleplayer after the abomination that was SFV. Every SF before that was barebone as fuck.
>Online needs to work right away, the first beta having matchmaking issues killed the game
No one said this ever. The game runs flawless.
>Not putting real life celebrities in your game
Welcome to modern fighting games. They'll be more soon. Street Fighter will get their celeb eventually.
>Not being owned by Saudis
Politics have nothing to do with this, you've been groomed by social media and that makes you a retard. If Hitler made Guilty Gear I would still be playing Guilty Gear.
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>>737247880
just because all devs are following a very bad trend of turning all characters into casual streetwear faggots doesnt mean that its a good one, or that people would be put off by the originals.

whenever some dogshit SF6 character redesign gets revealed all the copers have to bank on the classic designs coming with them.
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>>737248106
how is that cope. every sf6 character comes with the classic costume by default
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>>737246659
>Unholy Diver
>Testament gets Unholy Diver later

>>737246749
>Megadeth
>Unika gets Megadeath Buster

How did both of these memes predict Guilty Gear?
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>>737248178
it shows that these new designs arent as popular as people like to claim and that without the classic designs working as a lightning rod there'd be an uproar.
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>>737247938
>white poop emoji facepaint
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>>737248370
i see the new designs online more than the classic designs for the most part (outside of elena kek)
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>>737246894
>cool old man in golden armor
>look at gameplay
>it's just a shirtless old man who does some generic punch and kicks + a fireball (and then feints his specials which looks visually jarring)
He's boring generally every COTW character has this exact issue
Mind you, Street Fighter 6 characters also have this issue a little bit (just look at how everyone has the same animation for crouching medium punch), but there's usually a little bit more flair/style with heavies and specials

Altho Billy is cool because he's got a big stick

>>737248697
That's because you need to either grind World Tour or shell out money
I think a lot of the new costumes are inoffensive enough tho
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>>737247938
A reminder that I'm the only Mui Mui fan on /v/.
I still miss her.
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SNK could ask GOD himself to create the ultimate SNK game that will blow ever other fighting game out the water for the next 100 years and people would still find a reason not to play it until it's the era it released is over and the start of the next era has begun lmao.

Once the era ends, once that god game has flopped in sales and player count and still lagging behind Capcom, THAT is when people will play it. So like if the Gen was 2030 - 2038 and the God SNK game sold poorly as soon as we hit the new fighter gen 2039 that is when people will be like "wow man this is so fucking good! holy shit this is the best SNK game ever made!"

This is how SNK is treated as a company and It's so fucking bad man lmao. I can't even think of another situation in gaming like this. Maybe the JRPG genre when everyone was pro-Square Enix? But which JRPG company is the equivalent of SNK? Which JRPG company does Squarefags want Square Enix to purchase?
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>>737247938
SNK really outdid themselves on XIV on making new characters but they got "quantity over quality" so characters like luong, sylvie or antonov gets a pass to the sequel.
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>>737248910
I like rekka characters so I liked her too.
Too bad she's never coming back because SNK doesn't own her.
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>generic punch and kicks
the fuck is that supposed to mean
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>>737247927
Imma wait for sonicfox vs go1.
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>>737249329
uncs moves have no drip
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>>737247927
>have to wait 12 hours for a reveal
nah I'm good. I will let you guys tell me what they revealed. fuck these bamco 20hour long events for "back to basis" bait
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>>737248923
>But which JRPG company is the equivalent of SNK?
Falcom? :)
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>>737248862
>it's just a shirtless old man who does some generic punch and kicks + a fireball
But when capcom does this everyone cums in their pants.
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>>737246894
when uncs first heard that 8bit moonlight sonata they shit their pants
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>>737249507
Square fags don't give a shit about Falcom. It's Tri-ACE. They make all of Square Enix's other JRPGs. Star Ocean, Valkyrie Profile, Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery, Resonance of Fate, and sometimes they are a main dev on a Final Fantasy like the XIII series. Only thing they don't make is the Mana series.
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>>737249539
>Mind you, Street Fighter 6 characters also have this issue a little bit
Why do snkfags assume everyone's a capcom shill the second someone has a bit of criticism towards their games?
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I do in fact want my martial arts game characters to look like martial artists.
If your character would look out of place in a movie like Blood Sport or Game of Death its probably not a good fit for the genre and better off in some jrpg.
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>>737249539
You didn't prove him wrong though. He's right. The mistreatment of SNK needs to be studied. A company releasing quality product only for everyone to find a reason to hate it almost every time.
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If your roster is mostly regular people -- no green hulk, flying superhero, super obese heavyweight, Galactus, Sentinel, or stretchy character, -- your game should not look more cartoony than VF6.
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>>737246348
nta but xx was an arcade game primarily and they kept making new ones of it. dumb to look at sales over quality of a game anyway.
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>>737250217
lmao! you retard Xrd was primarily in arcades years before console too. the fuck are you smoking
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>>737244636
>>sidestep actually covers some distance and is pretty fast
That just looks like iframes to me, how does it work in vf??
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do we have any lobbies
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>>737250303
Didn’t say xrd wasn’t. Just saying anyone who says xx failed is a retard when it’s a cornerstone of the genre.
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>>737250653
first post didnt include XX sales
now your post doesnt include Xrd was also arcade first

you got caught not once but twice.
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>>737250818
I said that wasn’t me, I just said xx did not fail
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>>737250316
Damm VF6 is gonna bury the corpse of Tekken 8.
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>>737251028
lol
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>>737251019
How did two misinformed tards make the same mistake? I guess great minds think alike, huh?
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Tekken 8 sucks ass, lmao



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