How has Pokemon Mystery Dungeon changed the videogame community 20 years later?
>>737190860>>>/vp/
The OG TF fetish game.
Furrys first roguelite.
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>>737190860Finished Gates to Infinity just a couple days ago. Awful game with the shittiest dungeon layouts. You have hallways that go from one end of the screen to the other, and rooms are usually 3x3 tiles big. I got memed by all the people saying to give it a chance for the cast and story, they were nothing special. You can beat it in a single day.Super any better?
>>737190860I played both this and Bowser's Inside Story and didn't end up with any faggoty fetishes, so I think those faggots were cooked regardless.
>>737191641You ended up in 4chan, so?
>>737191837omg XD gott'em
I just noticed there are no tomodachi life threads in the catalog, what happened
>>737193179What do you mean what happened?
>>737190860it forever exposed that gamefreak and tpc are full of hacks and the only way for pokemon game to actually be good is through outsourced spinoffs
>>737191641i literally did not consider bowsers inside story as fetish fuel until i saw that one comic by an anon about him playing the remake and realizing how much of a faggot he became thanks to the game
It made me want more partybased roguelikes/mystery dungeons/dungeon crawlers.
>>737196586What comic?
>>737191234super is leagues ahead (if you can put up with the very slow intro/tutorial section)
>>737197178Cool
>>737191234Super is worse than Explorers and Rescue team but drastically better than Infinity.Infinity is generally regarded poorly outside of a few diehard fans who shill it.Super probably has the best post game though.
>>737196586anons always project there's nothing fetishy about bowser's inside story
>>737204664What's the fetish? I never played Bowser's Inside Story.
Game is fantastic but it's a pain in the ass to collect every mon so I didn't bother.
>>737205075The game is all about literally going inside of Bowser's body and him eating a bunch of stuff and getting all fat so a bunch of autists claim that this game gave them a vore and/or feeder fetish but obviously they already had those fetishes before playing it otherwise everyone who played it would have them.
>>737206802>otherwise everyone who played it would have them.I mean any media can "awaken" a fetish for you without it being the fetish wakener that works on everyone. Not claiming I understand how fetishes and the mind work but I don't think that logic works.
>>737207034>>737206802Fetishes are often formed via a direct or indirect mental association with sex or attraction, and this can be caused by many things and usually happens during and around puberty. That said, it can be a roll of the dice when a strong mental association happens.
>>737205075Vore and mind control?
>>737197178Try this and its sequel
>>737190860Total kino.
>>737191641>>737197178This is one of my favorite games of all time and I consider it one of the most important games of my life but not only did I not turn into a furry, I also fucking hate rouguelikes and randomised dungeons, this is the one exception.
>>737190860Furry PMD RPers
>>737209871hmmm
>>737190860>Doing good deeds and helping the town>Known jackass and troublemaker gengar convinces the town that literally all their problems are the result of (you)>Everyone instantly decides to hunt you down and kill>Zero hesitation about 30 seconds after hearing about this information do they decide they need to kill you>It is literally the town consensusI know its a kids game but I would have never ever forgiven those town pokemon. That shit would have instantly put me on the path of villainy.
>>737209871>not porn....
>>737212216Yeh its not, its really good though
>>737212251Nta but is it like bug fables, where it takes Mario and luigi superstar adventure's mechanics and slaps a new coat of paint on it to make it legally distinct?
>>737212706Erm kinda? Imagine the mystery dungeon gameplay except you can get monster girls on your team, have a town full of monster girls who all flirt with you and ask you for stuff and want you around
>>737209201>roll of the dicehave you seen some of the shit people get stuck with? the brain is unkind.
>>737211938>alakazam says rescue teams from all over the world will be hunting you downactually fucking nuts that gengar managed to make some random child the osama bin laden of pokemon world and nobody questioned it
>>737204241>Super probably has the best post game though.lol fucking ain't, worst bss and recruit system of the series bar none, super is only remembered fondly because didn't fuck up as bad as GTI didEoS > Explorers DX > Explorers > Super >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> powergap >>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTI
>>737212706>Mario and luigi superstar adventure's mechanics*Paper Mario. I've only heard of one game that wanted to be an M&L game and it's Kickstarter Vaporware.>>737213904Equally as fucking nuts is over the course of that whole chase the MC and Friend managed to shake off every pursuer except the best rescue team in the continent at the time while also having to throw hands with two legendary birds because they had the misfortune of having to move through their turf.
Are there any complete PMD fangames that play like PMD? I once played a dogshit Ruby hack called Rescue Rangers to try and get my fix but I want something proper and I've played all of the official ones multiple times (excluding the Japan-only Wiiware games nobody talks about), and custom starter mods only add so much novelty
>>737190860What is the deal with humans in the mystery dungeon universe? It seems like every single Pokémon knows what a human. Is information about humans born into every mind of Pokémon at birth thanks to the grace of Arceus? Or have they met humans or seen human towns are we personally just never get to see them in game.
>>737216731I think from their perspective humans are a mythical creature. No one's seen a unicorn but if you talked to some rando on the street they'd know what one was.
>>737214960>Equally as fucking nuts is over the course of that whole chase the MC and Friend managed to shake off every pursuer except the best rescue team in the continent at the time while also having to throw hands with two legendary birds because they had the misfortune of having to move through their turf.This was kino
>>737218539And to think the only thing stopping a full on fight between us and Alakazam was the fact we were right on Ninetails' doorstep.
>started playing this game as I was getting into /out/>reinforced my love for outdoor adventures>now when I'm out hiking or camping I'll play a piano arrangement from the gameI'll always love Explorers of Sky. Still glad I saved this series until I was an adult and Disillusioned with vidya. I really love the Shiren series too.
>>737218743do you bring a piano with you camping
>>737218782You don't?I bring a shakuhachi like a disgusting weeb.
>>737218840>not bringing a melodica
>>737218987I can't even imagine what I'd do if I was walking through the woods and stumbled upon somebody genuinely jamming out on one of those.
>>737219117
>>>/vp/
>>737219209Accurate
>>737212706Its more like Shiren than PMD.
>>737214960It's worth considering that in the main series canon it's strongly implied that Arceus created and fostered the relationship between humans and pokemon because humans have a knack for strategy, tactics, and helping pokemon excel. There's a very real chance that every other rescue team is kind of ass relative to what a trainer can muster.
>>737218743There a higher res version of your image?
>>737219501Ah, I think there is but it was too high res to post. Just reverse search it on yandex and you should be good to go.
>>737219501>>737219536I'm only seeing https://x.com/RealSpaceJunk/status/1688918653977440256 and https://realspacejunk.tumblr.com/post/701647022701395968/strangers-in-lively-town-took-me-half-a-year-to
>>737219618Found the source (DA)https://www.deviantart.com/realspacejunk/art/Strangers-in-Lively-Town-920426126
>>737219618>>737219776Okay, cool. I thought I remembered saving a higher res but couldn't for the life of me remember where from. Glad you found it.
>>737219776Excellent, should've thought to check there
>>737190947FPBP>>737190860Fuck off shill
>>737222780what is the context here
>>737190860I still can't get over him being gone forever
>>737223154>Shill>For a 17 year old game of a dead series>Playable on hardware that is no longer being madeYeah man for sure.
>>737190860They could never release a plot this kino in 2026. God the edge the soul, I mean shit dawg even the soundtrack was better. Idk if they just had looser writing guidelines back then, but like damn someone at gamefreak knew how to write
It's amazing. Played through it several times. It addressed almost every issue i had with rescue team I dont even remember the issues I had with rescue team, nor the story. I just remember explorers being leagues better>>737224198It wasn't gamefreak who made these games, thats why they are actually good.
>>737224198For what its worth, Gates to Infinity had a surprisingly good story. For all that games faults, it actually presented the Mystery Dungeon world in a new light and even had some dark, dark themes including a literal suicide cult..Infinity probably has my second favorite story and cast of characters. Sky of course being first.
The trend of "What if Pokémon were actual characters" continues in Pokopia. Too bad the music sucks.
>>737223703Most cucked character in the Pokemon franchise
>>737224198Shiren the Wanderer guy wrote it with some woman, and it was produced by a Dragon Quest director.
>>737227406Huh, I never thought about it like that before.
>>737227406Well in Sky he supplanted his friend with Dusknoir and he probably fucked Celebi a lot so he won.
>>737191234Super mystery dungeon is lame as hell
>>737227406Riolu is cuter sorry
RUNTIME IS DONEAND THE DARKNESS WILL CONSUME THE SKYREALITY DIEShttps://youtu.be/ISSzitgI7e0
This setting is absolutely the start of the trans pipeline, just like everything else TF-adjacent.
>>737190860We got older by 20 years
>>737230937>Dusknoirthey're at each other's throats>Celebihe's a no way fag kind of dude like leon, so forget it
>>737190860Tvis genre but you play as a human that actually can understand pokemon to fuck them
>blocks your path>ominous wind>unburden>ominous wind>omniboosts>ominous wind>unburden>ominous wind>omniboostsHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>737190860It’s a shame these games fell off so hard after SkyDX was supposed to just be a modern version of the first one but it has fucking input lag, even easier dungeons, and a radar that destroys any sense of exploration (which apparently doesn’t turn off until you get to the postgame)Dropped it a few hours inShiren is the only MD worth playing now
>>737238126the issues with rescue team and explorers are mostly limited to the post-game, but they're numerous>PP management is dependent on RNG and that really stings in 99-floor+lv 1 dungeons, where mistakes snowball. newest games let you increase PP, ditch basic attacks, and shower you with elixirs precisely because pokemon are all about using moves>some traps are basically switches that spell doom for your run. they do a good job keeping you on edge, but with 99-floor dungeons it becomes frustrating (cough grudge traps cough pitfalls on escort missions)>room moves are fucking busted period (spore, ominous wind, silver wind, magnitude and its fixed damage, etc.)>computer-controlled allies are frustratingly retarded (will readily step on revealed traps) and wrangling them to play optimally is a pain in the ass (copious amounts of menuing, toggling techs an item master, toggling between let's go together and attack)
>>737211071Same but I like some random dungeon if it has enough variety. I like Vagante. I might make a my own Mystery Dungeon game.
>>737239091I don't mind the first three points you brought up as the game gives you liberal amounts of tools which are equally bullshit to mitigate challenges. Sleep and petrify orbs can completely lock down rooms while you take out enemies one at a time, and you can usually stockpile your major items like reviver seeds for the times where you do get fucked over (like stuck in a monster house with full-room moves). The pitfall traps are retarded though.That said the AI is certainly lacking, and while you can eventually unlock -some- IQ moves to get your partner to be less retarded, it's not perfect and most of them are only going to start being unlocked in postgame.
The first game is better.
>>737239813>Sleep and petrify orbs can completely lock down rooms while you take out enemies one at a timein the post-game enemies recover much more quickly from sleep thanks to IQ skillslv1 dungeons fuck you up by denying you game-breaking moves and iq skills (e.g. survivalist) and leaving you underleveled (damage scales with level). furthermore, your allies turn into a liability (lose nontraitor, status checker, all-terrain hiker, self-curer and nonsleeper, trap avoider, etc.)no-item dungeons leave you completely vulnerable to bad luck (no food, no seeds, no orbs, no elixirs, no tight belt, no goggle specs, etc.)in the end difficulty is exacerbated mostly by the amount of floors (50f, 75f, 99f)
>>737227406I've soured a lot on PMD over the years, but Grovyle is still based. Giving up your own existence to make a better world takes balls, even if living in a hellscape makes it seem like an easy choice in theory.Makes me wish there were more side stories. His and the Armaldo one are the highlights of the game for me
