BASED! BASED! BASED!Don't let the door hit you on the way out AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
good luck. no transferable skills.
>leaves work as they are afraid to not have a jobhuh?
Makes sense, they get treated like chattel compared to real developers.
>>737195805>shorterI disagree with this part because most single player games these days are like 4 hours max if you take away all the collectible busywork.
>>737195687>slow decline of the industryThey're like 20 years late
Finally the big purge is hereGET THE FUCK OUT CASUALS
People will celebrate, but then forget how like with the Writer's strike in television, it will result in a permanent removal of actual talent alongside the undesirables.
The way the gaming industry is so corporatized now, you have no job security. These studios want to have a constant fluctuating staff. Are we on a big part of the project? Hire 200 more people! All trained on Unreal that is now the industry standard. Job complete? Later fuckers!The best bet these guys have is to form small studios of talent with people they can trust. But unfortunately it's not that simple or cheap.
>>737196092Kill yourself wokie, NOW
>>737195787Most successful job applicants already have jobs
>>737196092That's a price I'm willing to pay.
>>737196092OH NO, not the big bang theories and the stranger things!
>>737195787>I'm leaving this city before the hurricane hits
We need less managers and HR, not less devs retard.
>>737196092What talent. Anyone with actual talent already left.
>>737196092A little late for that, no? The reason people celebrate isn't because now woke shit will no longer be a small blemish on otherwise amazing games, the AAA western industry itself has only been releasing putrid garbage. The games fucking suck.Even the DEI hires would make better shit if organized in small teams pursuing a passion project instead of the bloat of modern AAA. I could see a few decent indie moviegames about depression or whatever coming out of this.
>>737195687What color and gender are they, and where are they located?That's the only questions that matter, because of they're Californians, women or DEI jeets good riddance
>>737196857The hurricane arrived like 4 years ago, everyone watched the second biggest publisher fold like it was nothing and ignored Kotick publicly calling the business dead over and over.
>>737195687This is good for video games.
>need people to make a game>once it's released only need a very small fraction to maintain it and release small updatesmakes sense but people still work there because game studios are usually rich as fuck, super laid back, and have low workloads
>all the White people get fired>all the Indians get hiredThis is 'based' according to nu/v/
>>737195787They're looking for new jobs in other industries while they still have their video game development jobs to avoid unemployment between jobs, because they've seen the writing on the wall and are expecting to be laid off any day now. Obviously they're not quitting their current jobs before they've found new ones.
>>737195687The industry is rotten and needs a big reset but I'm a 3D artist and animator in Europe and it's fucking grim even if you have previous experience. All the capitals are unlivable too, which is were most of the remaining studios areI would chose a different career nowadays but this media is all that brings me some form of joy, I don't see myself working on anything else
>>737196808The consequences of the 2012 strike are being felt still from everything after as old scripts dried up and new scrips and writers had to be relied upon.
>>737195687>thinkingnothing ever happens
>>737196092Welcome to a decade ago, tardo.
>>737197363The games on the left are fun, and the details add to the quality. The games on the right blow ass, and the details (which are all automated via physics engines anyway) were focused on in lieu of making the games fun.
>>737195687Think about the number of vampire survivor clones we're going to be able to play now with all the American devs getting laid off and forced to go solo dev. The future is bright!
>>737195687Good, fuck Microsoft and Xbox
>>737198151How horrifying. I need more over the shoulder jewish soap operas, not less.
>>737195760Brownnosing is a very transferable skill
>>737195787Finding a job while you have a job is WAY easier, just like finding a girlfriend
>>737197015Too bad it's the managers and HR who decide who to fire, and they ain't firing themselves.
>>737195687Half of all game developers want to find another adult day care where they don't have to care about what they're supposed to be doing
Western game development (post-Atari) was born from random people deciding to code shit on Apple IIs and IBM compatibles. All the greatest games made in the west were done by like 100 people or less; the industry simply cannot handle these absurdly bloated teams, budgets, and development cycles. Western game dev must be destroyed in order to save it.
>>737198151vampire-survivor-likes is old hat now. its all megabonk-likes from now on
>>737197363kek tru
>>737196092The people with actual talent usually find other avenues to create their stuff because it’s their passion. Not only that, but they tend to leave these big companies of their own accord because they find they stifle their creative freedom.
>>737198321Actually if other cases are any indication, the firing is completely fucking random and they'll throw away people even if they were the only person actually doing their job right.
>>737195687where could they even run to? It won't be tech that's for sure.
>>737198429Mewgenicslikes are going to rule the market. Just you wait.
>>7371956871,000 is a terrible sample size and we don't know much of how skillsearch surveyed the devs
>>737196092I haven't bought a game in 5 years, nowadays I don't even pirate anything
>game devs are the new 42%And that's a good thing.
>>737198593>"Mmmmm, that feature you added over the weekend that you thought would be fun doesn't mesh well with the 4 project managers idea of what the game should be like after we paid McKinsey 4 million dollars for market research. And the worst part is that you didn't log this in any JIRA ticket, we have no idea how many story points you took to build this, and there's no way to even think about somehow getting this worked into the existing 2 week sprint. What were you thinking? You do know this is why we have an AGILE coach on staff right? You did take the mandatory 2 week training course? We're going to have to write you up for this, it's out of my control at this point.I can't believe this modern environment doesn't produce compelling entertainment.
>>737198429>megabonk-likesisn't that a vampire survivor like?
>>737198634Actually most large projects will fire competent people first because completing the project means potentially being out of work. Anything with a disconnect between the person paying the bills and the worker will be like this. Government in particular.
>>737196092The talent left long ago. Modern AAA is all about parading around the corpses of dead IPs propped up by cheap outsourced labor from 3rd-world shitholes.
>>737198982Not always the case. Particularly in asian game companies there's a shocking amount of very old guys still working at the companies.
>thing didn't grow infinitely forever?? oh no, thing is deadMaybe the industry should just be half its current size in order to be sustainable. (But I'm sure it will shrink to less than half when investors realize that the line doesn't go up to infinity.)
>>737196092>People will celebrate, but then forget how like with the Writer's strike in television, it will result in a permanent removal of actual talent alongside the undesirables.Its a bit different in modern AAA, writers still have actual input on what they are making. The modern AAA artist/dev just gets told what to do by a handful of designers overseeing all of them down to specifics.Even a employee at little caesars has more say in their work these days.
>>737195687Video games probably get hit extra hard by business majors who assume they can just ask an AI to make them a product and it'll sell just as well as anything a human would've made. This is less to do with AI and more to do with a massive hiring surge when lockdowns forced everyone to stay home and software companies saw dollar signs.
>>737195687at this rate there will be no more video game industry left by the end of the decade. finally something good is happening.
>>737195687ANDNOTHINGOFVALUEWASLOST
>>737198414This, the pattern we are clearly seeing is studios/publishers treating games like big Hollywood movies putting like 500 workers on payroll for 5 years work on something, and then Pikachu face when the game can't instantly make back the several-hundred-million hole it dug. Even if the game wasn't Concord level hated and had moderate success it still is a failure in the eyes of the bean counters because it needed to make 5 gorillion dollars or else the entire company is fucked. Why even leverage themselves so fucking much on any game that isn't fucking GTA VI levels of hype? What were they expecting?You would think it should take like 4 months to make a big epic game with fucking hundreds of staff working on it but no it seems to still take 4 years whether it's a team of 10 or 100. Paying someone a full time job to do almost-nothing is just bloat in the industry. The actually skilled senior devs have to share company revenue with seat warmer novices and DEI hires. Kind of like how Musk could fire 3/4ths of twitter staff and the site somehow still ran, there are people you know you actually fucking need and the fake email jobs you honestly don't but needed to fit some mandated quota or some shit. Only in games, what might happen is that essential 25% might leave and then the useless 3/4ths will flounder attempting to pick up the ball.
>>737195687Oh noAnyway
>>737199669The Mythical Man Month was published in 1975.
>>737195687The main two reasons are incompetence from upper/middle management, and the fact that game dev studios are not supposed to have 1000+ people. AAA studios should have like 100 people max. Any more is just nothingburger bureaucratic roles. I genuinely can’t name a US based AAA game that succeeded in this decade outside of COD. But even COD finally collapsed with black ops 7. Literally look at all the studios: Bethesda, 343, Bungie, DICE, etc. These companies are merely paying the natural price of failure.
>>737195687Oh no. Not the diversity hires who dont actually make games. Whatever will we do without them
>>737199448The industry will just return to PC gaming under Valve, family-friendly console gaming under Nintendo, and older audience console gaming under Sony.
>>737195687I want to take their toys away too. License Dragon Age to some South Korean or Chinese studio and turn it into a straight male power fantasy epic.
>>737197363gameplay on the right is shit so
>>737199847What do these companies have in common, they're either owned by or were heavily influenced by a certain software company that used to own the PC gaming industry in the 90s? You can't say their changes were natural. Hell, one of those companies (343/Halo Studios) is literally ran by suits of that company.
>>737195687I hope 99% of those are DEI hires and H1Bs who are forced to go back to shitnia.
I need you guys to remove the “western” umbrella and just look at the United States alone. Think about it, it’s absolutely fucking awful. The AAA scene is literally dead.
>>737197767>All the capitals are unlivable too, which is were most of the remaining studios areI've been told Berlin is really cheap to live in as far as European capitals go.
>>737196092>like with the Writer's strike in televisionYou'll have to be more specific, hollywood unions have thrown hundreds of melties since the early 50s
>>737196940That's what you get for not giving us sex and mocking us over it too
>>737198634What the fuck is the point of HR then?
holy shit gaming is saved!
>>737200241I really need you guys on /v/ to blame the main culprit of this, not western gaming, not the US, Microsoft Xbox. You know for a fact that Xbox caused this since 2001, stop sugar coating it. Xbox is dying and so is most of its corporate bullshit within gaming. Before Xbox, this didn't exist.
>>737200371Sometimes the CEO gets bored of his wife and wants a work romance.
the greatest game of all time is Whiplash. made by Gremlin Interactive in 1995, it has 16-car races, network multiplayer, 8 difficulty levels, two osts, 24 tracks, and is harder and more brutal than F-Zero GX. There are official internal memos from Gremlin that state something to the effect of "the free pizza will stop if you guys don't quit playing the game you're supposed to be making :)"it was made in 8 months. it is still considered one of the greatest racing games of all time. this is how all games should be made: a handful of passionate devs kept alive by their managers with free food, encouraged to play the game they are making and have fun, before the end of the year the game is done and people 30 years from now will still want to play it. if you can't make a game like Whiplash just get out of game dev.
>>737196940I'm not going to go hungry because some leftoids are getting caught by the consequences of their actions.
>>737200437No, you'll go hungry because of your emperor
>>737200392Nah the gaming scene was fine up until the early 2010s. I blame millennials and Hollywood finance.
>the results are hopeful*FTFY TRANNY JOURNALIST
>>737195687Wait, you mean if you replace your original customers with the modern audience your company fails?
>>737200482I was going hungry already because of YOUR emperor.
>>737200371Yeah, if you read and look around/pay attention to the firings, it's always just about meeting quotas as usual. It's not who you fire, it's what number you need to get rid of to make the line go back up.
>>737196092Don't care. We survived 1983, we'll survive this.
Unfortunately there’s a direct correlation between a game’s failure and millennial women running the show.
>>737200641I have to assume that leftoid got confused by the original scene being about niggers vs. whites, it makes no sense that he'd conclude that guy is talking about non-whites when the first tweet is about girlbosses
>>737196092>permanent removalModern day hiring practicies are a choice. Nothing is permanent. Real talent is ignored on purpose.
>>737200519It was not, you liar, western console gaming went to shit around the 7th gen, PC gaming was being simplified because of the Xbox during the 6th gen, Japanese game development was being killed during the 7th gen with signs that Microsoft was already causing this during the 6th gen, AA market on a global scale collapsed during the 7th gen. Don't try deny that Microsoft and their shitty Xbox didn't cause this, you worthless Xbot. Masters of Albion is literally fucking Project Ego, the game Microsoft gutted into Fable for the original Xbox. Don't you dare tell me Microsoft didn't cause this. Xbox is a bane.
>>737200423>it is still considered one of the greatest racing games of all time>WhiplashLiterally who? Take your autism somewhere else.
>>737200371HR is the state morality police. the USSA uniparty rep, if you will.
>>737200371adult daycare for females
>>737195687How am I going to understand the knowledge passed down by the amazing devs now?
>>737200873Leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things to make discussion impossible.
I'm glad of it, games fell off
>>737200964Gremlin was responsible for several of the finest racing games of the gen 4 era and Whiplash is the culmination of that massive skillset you newfag zoomzoom fucking kill yourself promptlyjust because it wasn't trending on your instagram reel last week doesnt mean it doesn't exist, you cockfiddling gay walrus.
>>737196940That was the goal over 10 years ago, tourist.The phoenix shall rise.
>>737200659Kek, bodied that freak
>>737201137
I could claim that there were too many people working on video games compared to how many people you actually needed to make them. Bloated dev teams are fucking useless at producing good quality games
>>737196940we’re not THOUGH, you society-destroying, anti-human, extinction-cult pedotroon
>>737195687Where would they even go?Average dev is a dogshit-tier programmer and they are stupid if they think they can find easier and more stable employment in the non-vidya tech field. These people will be flipping hotdogs and serving coffee very soon.
>>737200873I came to a more grim conclusion, that he thinks "target audience" is just race and believes all white people must want The Witcher 4 and Intergalactic. Even though Intergalactic is about a half-black half-Asian, and target audience is a lot more specific than race.
>>737196940Remember when leftoids were mocking blue collar workers with, "learn to code" over them loosing their blue collar jobs years ago. And now they are the ones crying.
>>737198316That's dumbWhy would it be easier if people know you're taken?If anything, it should make women steer clear of you
>>737201582No one hates women as much as women do, they love stealing another girls man.
>>737195687Leaving the video game industry to go where?Good luck
>>737201849>Leaving the video game industry to go where?Sanitation engineering is unironically booming right now if theyre smart enough to get in.
And that's a good thing
>>737196092There is no talent right now.
>>737195687Is this a good time to get into Game Development?
>>737201912It's mop, mop, mop, flip, mop, mop, mop, dip.
>>737201912>1 is low level mopping>2 is peak performance>3 doesn't have enough water>4 is going to cause someone to slipt. mopper
>>737201774yup, want a cheating code to get girls easy other than looking good and taking a shower ? wear a wedding ring in a nightclub. best trick to get quick BJ in the toilets and if you're lucky enough you can get a phone number too.
How much worse will it get? We already are under similar levels of brain drain as animation suffered where the old masters all left and never passed on their knowledge.
>>737196092>like with the Writer's strike in televisionEveryone says that TV writing is bad now, but no one can ever say at which point in the past TV writing was good.
>>737202408When (you) were a kid
>>737202408Naruto season 1 on Toonami was the peak of TV.
>>737201774That's all petty shit. They'll never amass the kind of all-consuming red hot hate I have for them as a gender.
Indieslop is just going to get even more sloppier now.
>>737195687We need to pump that number up as far as it can go. Give it 110%, brothers!
We laugh, while the REAL enemy is still rubbing its hands.
>>737195687NOOOOOO! Not my dogshit AAAA open world slop!!!
>>737196092>TalentWhat talent lol
>>737198142
>>737195687>HALF THE DEVELOPERS ARE GONNA GUIT>based on a sample the size of 10% of a single AAA studiolmao, total journo death
>>737200371HR is a sword of damocles that hangs over wagies
>>737202535Don't worry, Nintendo, Sony Japan, and Valve will inspire them so, they'll start having more quality in their game development.
>>737195687>developersAs in people who actually develop the video game? Or people like Alanah Pearce or localizers who don't but call themselves developers anyways?
Part of me is glad. But then the other part of me thinks "what work sector will they ruin next when they move into that one"?
>>737195687>1000 people surveyed Okay OP...
>>737195687>shit up the game industry >time to shit up every other tech sectorgood luck with that, doubt anyone will be hiring them anyway since most are reducing or hiring indians
>>737199975wow that is literally me
>>737201582>"a man is way more attractive when he's in a relationship"an actual quote from my exyou could say it's because women are natural cheaters, but I think it's more like a man gains confidence when he's in a relationship, and it signals to women he's not a weirdo if he managed seduced a woman
>>737195687Keep killing games.
>>737203714>an actual quote from my exThat's sad. You're sad. Heterosexuals are sad.
>>737195687HAHHAHHAHAHHABAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAHHABAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAHHABAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAHHABAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAHHABAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAADeserrved. Stop making shit games. If it would be an accident, I would be understanding. But they are going out of their way to make it shit.
basedtotal cumskin removal
>>737203714it's more about women wanting to steal desirable men from other women. It's a primal thing just like we want to fuck everything and spread the seed
>layoffsLmao sounds like a problem for people with bullshit jobs.If what you do is important, they won’t ‘lay you off’.
>>737202518Young men are more likely to get into retro gaming than start firebombing data centers.
>>737196092>actual talent alongside the undesirables.All actual talent has been driven out. Only the sludge remains and will be purged.
>>737202942>lmao, total journo deathYes that's the next thing that needs to happen.
>>737195760don't they know how to code?>>737195687>learn to code goy>oh wait, we figured out how to mass hire indians and a chatbot, eat shitremember, there has literally never ever ever been a "skills gap" or a "worker shortage". companies will do anything to replace workers with indians so they don't have to pay fair wages
>>737200371HR exists to protect the company.
>>737197363All the White people were fired a decade ago, only the leftoid Whitey who submitted to jewish supremacy and promoted social pollution to harm the social fabric of European society (popularly known as "woke") were allowed to remain.Now they get to lose their jobs. Because the greatest trick the left every played was teaching that class, not race matters. And then they learn their final lesson: With jews, you lose.
>>737203798Okay faggot
>>737203879neethands typed this postif you aren't at the top or in full control of the entire business, you are disposable no matter what you know or are able to do, if your expulsion makes the bottom line better
>>737200371to prevent lawsuits against the company and as a jewish daycare make work program for women so they don't have kids
>>737204042this. if your job can be replaced by jeets and "ai" some faggot will try to replace you with jeets and "ai" to save a buck
>>737201137I don't think that guy was pretending. Often they genuinely can't understand.
>>737203997>learnthey dont learn anything, they will leech off of another host and spread their zealous drivel in any way or form therethey say there are 8% of total population of white people left on earth, when you substract said parasite its closer to 1 or 2 percent at MAX
>>737204073Most HaRpies I’ve worked with do have kids. They just offload raising them to other people.I know this because at every orientation they use us as a captive audience to tell their life story.
>>737197363I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to see in the top left vid, guy just aiming.
>>737197336isn't it the exact opposite?
>>737198920I don't even work in games but the fucking middle management, scrumslop, agileslop, sprintslop, meetingslop is fucking retarded, they will NEVER let you implement a common sense feature that users will actually use and want, instead they focus on some useless shit but some manager who thinks he's smart came up with it so it has to be done, but really those people have no idea what users want, so many times when working I was thinking "nobody will fucking use this" while we don't get time to fix important bugs or implement something actually cool
>>737196092>it will result in a permanent removal of actual talent so, nothing changes? the actual talent left long time ago and some started their own studios.
Do brits even have good games? I literally cannot think of one. Rockstar games are fucking boring.
>>737198142The games on the right are fun, and the details add to the quality. The games on the left blow ass, and the details (which are all automated via physics engines anyway) were focused on in lieu of making the games fun.
>>737204257How does it feel to be legally retarded?
>>737195687
>>737204159Try replacing health system,police and firefighters with shitskins and AIOnly non essential work is getting the boot cause it's all fake job for fake people
>>737204490Rareware
>>737201527>>737200873>>737201137blacks see everything as a race thing and don't understand why people wouldn't want to see something if it has characters of their race>>737200641it's still fucking hilarious that disney tried to gay all of their franchises and now are seething that they have no IPs that appeal to men when they have star wars, marvel and pirates and they ruined 2 of them
>>737204257The ice cubes from the champagne cooler that are on the table, are melting away after a brief amount of waiting. A very minute detail but it was a huge thing, considering the leap from MGS 1 to MGS 2.
>>737204042I’m a fireman.Disposable? Arguably, but not layoff-able. I have to fuck up heavy to be even fire-able.Replaced by ai/jeets?No.
>>737204795>last game came out on the 360>lastest game is cancelledno wonder they want to quit, they arent doing anything.
>>737203997>yuropoor societyall yuropoors are woke commies>>737204647nta but>t. fucking retard>>737204784they are literally replacing healthcare workers with jeets. that's literally what bongland and canada and places with "free healthcare" do because people don't want to go to school for shit wages. The US does it too, to an extent. Whenever someone brings up ending H1Bs the bad faith argument is that a lot of rural areas have H1B doctors because the hospitals and shit underpay and only h1bs are willing to take the lower payrates to live in meth county west virginia. I'm sure they are fine with replacing cops and firefighters with indians too
>>737195760Coders do, so do the officeplebs.It's a matter of will, though.Companies like Ubisoft are going to shed literal thousands of people over the next 5 years, all the big companies will trim so much fat there'll be fuck all left to fire. If it wasn't because AAA gaming is so bloated this could create more studios doing low level stuff but it's more likely the industry just shrinks.
>>737204870oh I see, thanks>>737204708its alright
>>737204795Rare has been dead for years if not over a decade >>737204973they will absolutely start hiring jeets to do your job if your wages ever go up
>>737196092All the "Talent" is unoriginal women and faggots. All the good talent/devs were forced off forever ago so we arent losing anything
Judging by the last 15 years of vidyagames, most of those people should never should have been employed anyway.
>>737205103Well fucking let them then, when everything burns down cause the firefighter is too busy raping some kid cause he's brown and the medic doesn't know what is killing people cause chatgpt didn't tell him and robbers are killing people left and right cause there's no police to stop them then perhaps things will change
>>737205103I accept your concession. No reason to discuss with sub 80 IQ like you.
>>737205323Anyone who says this is incredibly misinformed and none of it based on any kind of objective fact.
>>737197363>GoYI'm sorry I can't take you seriously.
>B-B-BUT THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE GETTING FIRED CHUD!!The only *white" people left are agenda driven retards who replaced actual devs like a decade ago and don't have an ounce of talent in their body and only got there through nepotism or whoring out.
>>737196092>actual talentnow? 2026? in the western industry?
>>737205407kek>>737205654are you not American? you know dems have been pushing for >defund the policefor over a decade now. they don't care about crime and most fire departments and ambulances are volunteer or mostly volunteer>>737205706turn your monitor on, retard
>>737195687Thank God, when 4A/AAA is no longer profitable, we will see peak once more.
>>737205407This. They were lucky and now they are gone.I am watching this happening in a lot of areas actually.
>>737195687Then make games people want to play, were tired of all the socio-poltical bullshit that's always shoehorned into games. If the character is gay, fine, we've had gay, trans, minorities before in games. It wasn't a big deal until made it a big deal and games are used for a bullshit moral pedestal to preach at others. >were going to pull every lever >w-why did our game flop?And even the people theyre marketing to dont want to play the shit.
>>737196092Sadly true
>>737201582Women consider men that are already taken or have sexual experience to be more attractive. Because it signals to them that the man is desirable. And that he must have something going for him if another woman was with him. Basically it's a form of vetting or just makes the man seem like a safer option.
>>737195687Can someone explain to me how this is a good thing?
>>737198920too real - incidentally this is exactly what working in network security is like too whenever i want to tighten down the network/firewall
>>737198920
>>737199669they could have made this model work with big IPs like comic book super heroes and star wars and shit but then they need a really good story/writing to carry it and we know how that turned out... "let's inject our work religion into this IP!!!"
>>737206281And dragons bootyhole 2, "im non-bahhery", and then gets so ass mad no one knows what the fuck hes talking about and his mom still tries to support him put of the good of her heart as he throws a tantrum and everyone leaves. We're we supposed to be like "YASS KING YASSS, TELL THAT BITCH, YAAAASSS". No, people were like "what the fuck?"
>>737200874>Real talent is ignored on purpose.they don't get that meritocracy is anathema to the cultural marxist and that it's a BELIEF SYSTEM for them - literally a religion
>>737206761Meritocracy isn't real, it's just nepohires and friends hiring friends all the way down.
>>737198920I will ugly cry tears of joy in the streets drinking and celebrating once we collectively end this man made hellscape.
>>737196092>actual talentIn the western vidya industry?Fucking where?
>>737206395AAA games have become outclassed by indies being able to be experimental and AA games being able to be closer aligned with current trends. It frankly means a massive shakeup where realistically only services that are cheap with subscriptions for bigger games or guaranteed sequels and remakes will be made. Even with doing that AAA games are failing. Once GTA6 bombs, then the whole industry will implode on the bigger side. The problem is Fornite and Roblox will use this to get an even bigger control over the market.
>>737205143>coding jobsMy boss who knows apparently nothing about coding has been creating all kinds of automated programs these past few months using AI.
>>737198429Megabonk is just a Risk of Rain 2like
>>737195687Excellent news. I shall celebrate by cooking an omelet and steak.
>>737196092Dude, the Western gaming industry has been like that for a solid decade now. The last time any interesting game was made by a Western company, the PS360 were the consoles of choice and the PS4 and Xbone were just being announced or at the very latest, were released a year prior. The Western entertainment industry is a shambling corpse and it's only now that the walking death is causing the collapse of both Hollywood and the American games industry.The crazy part is it's all self-imposed since Japan is doing fine enough and even Kora and China are making major splashes in the games industry too.>>737202408That stretch from the late 80s/early 90s to mid 2000s where shoes like My So-Called Life, Dead Like Me, Scrubs, Seinfield, the original run of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, My Name is Earl, Futurama, the first few seasons of Family Guy and the Simpsons and basically any show where the writers had enough sense to show restraint while also using real life stories of theirs or others to rally drive the narrative and emotional core of the story of the episode and/or the overarching show.There's a reason most shows just default to gay relationship melodrama bullshit and/or shitty supernatural horror/sci-fi trash with Joss Whedon style humor with even less restraint than he showed. They're so alienated from what's human they can't even write about it let alone with some twists and turns that make the setting exotic or otherwise interesting, but not the characters themselves.
>>737195687Most people in game development honestly should not be there. They don't like games or play games, they only do it as a job like any other and their contribution can never be very good because of that. Creative industries such as games should be left for people who are really excited to specifically make games and do nothing else.
>>737200371HR is literally just daycare for women, that's it, I cannot think of a single time I've seen an HR department that was worth a damn at any job I've been at.If your HR department has more than 1 person per 200 employees, it's just worthless bloat.
>>737195687>Leave the industry>Make their own vidya>Become a cog in another machine
>>737206539>heShe, actually,
>>737196092It's a sacrifice I am willing to make.
>>737205654Gotta give one thing to jeet doctors - mates in the UK, don't ever go to them if you have a serious problem, but they're great pill dispensers, desperate for even the patient to accept them as "a doctor". And, in India, what does a doctor do? Prescribe pills. That's all there's to it, that's also why it's completely insane to allow people foreign in all ways, be it religiously, inherent interests, genetically, behaviorally into especially SENSITIVE positions like law force, the Army (as a whole), medical (various) and firefighting professions. It is a sign of a revolution coming in decades in front of us, because a country whose very existence is thanks to its racially monolithic, in turn evolving into nationally monolithic history, whose people worked to make the country better for their progeny, to suddenly be flooded by element that is completely disruptive, unwanted and unneeded to anyone in the country except the most rich people who want to turn their corpos into jeet-pushed mills. This will make the life of the average person worse and it will keep getting worse until people don't simply stop doing what they were doing and FORCE the government (perhaps a new one that emerges) to immediately expell all foreigners from the, so callled "third world". No more false and toxic positivity. No more false and toxic tolerance even if it's you or your friends getting jumped by a mob of apes and police arrests you instead for "racially inciting people to violence". Just because you're you. You're a white, born in YOUR country and have EVERY RIGHT to demand YOUR land be rid of undiserables. No violence is even necessary. Make it completely impossible for them to they in their host country and their leave like fleas, for the rest use the police to deport them.
>>737207585And then years from now, you will curse the fact things somehow got even worse and you didn't appreciate how good it was before. This always happens.
>>737207267Nobody asked but I'm having a blast!
>>737207678>and you didn't appreciate how good it was before.I can safely tell you that I will not miss a single aspect of current western video games.I don't think I've played a AAA western game in like a decade.
>>737198920>agile coach>sprint>epics>stories>heroLOL GAYand it's not even "agile", it's rigid and lifeless.To think the best games were made with none of this gay software habits. The only good new thing is GIT, everything else nobody asked the question of "is it gay?"
>>737201582Holy actual debilitating autism. You have no idea the way women think. I think it's time to get tested for the 'tism, little bro.
Ha i'm glad! Bunch of fucking mid-programmers and losers doing DEI woke-slop! I just finished Game Studies and i can't wait to replace these dumbfucks to do some actual work.
>>737197363Anon, this has been happening across multiple industries for a decade now. So many companies are trying to replace all the lower-rung employees with pajeets and AI.
>>737196092>People will celebrate, but then forget how like with the Writer's strike in television, it will result in a permanent removal of actual talent alongside the undesirables.Is that the reason why I haven't watched a good movie in decades, because the writers are on permanent strike.
>>737201582>If anything, it should make women steer clear of youYou would think relationships were based on logic but most of them are not. It's just pure raw emotion and the ones that aren't end up with a women who hates her life and is slowly gaining PTSD by having to fuck a husband they are no longer attracted to. If you're 18 or underaged anon, I really advise that you find the right person ASAP and commit. Dating is a fucking cesspool where civilized people turn into animals with no fucking regard for anyone other than themselves.>>737203714Men cheat more than women, but what your describing is also true. It's just that once a man's ego reaches a certain point he thinks he can get away with cheating and if he gets caught then it doesn't matter because the world owes him something for being so cool.
>>737206469>Warner Bros is run by retards who constantly make horrible mergersTale as old as time
>>737208014Under Mr. Noseberg?
>>737208342>Men cheat more than womenWomen divorce more often and divorce is a form of cheating so there is no meaningful difference there.
>>737195687>twitter thread
>>737197767Same here, but you can always work remote for a more expensive country. But to be fair, artist jobs are easy as fuck to replace in general. You should lean more on the tech side
>>737208326The original 2012 strike failed and instead of returning, a lot of people just said fuck it and left forever since clearly none of the management valued them enough.
>>737208537Every job is an art.
>>737208580If their writing was so good, they would have made their own studios and made a fortune.Oh, they didn't, because that isn't the case is it.
>>737208663Sure, every rol is as easy to find as any other. Touch grass
>>737195687This is due to incompetent political hires working very slowly to make games that nobody wants. Any other explanation (the wider economy, the industry not being able to sustain this many devs, etc.) is cope.
>>737195687Why do you guys hate developers?Explain it to me like I don't use Twitter (I don't)
>>737208503>divorce is cheatingonly if you're a christcuck
>>737201912I always do the third one and I wouldn't want it any other way as a hobbyist, mopping enthusiast.
>>737208806Hate is too strong a word, I don't care about western devs because I hate the GAMES they make.If they made games I didn't hate, I would feel bad when they get laid off and end up destitute, but they don't, so I don't.
>>737202501>NarutoTruly, we ended up living in the times where unironic narutards unabashedly profess their retardation and browness on the Internet.
>>737208960How much agency do you think the average western developer has?How much influence do you think investor money and entities like Black Rock have on the quality of games?Sorry, I see these threads all the time and I'm just trying to wrap my head around this weird HAHAHAHAH YEAH STARVE sort of mentality I see
>>737209134Right. For example, Bluepoint I think should not have been closed for what was clearly in most cases a Sony error. They have questionable art direction but the technical ability is clearly there and shouldn't have been just thrown away.
>>737206395Because I'm 40 years old and haven't had fun with a video game since I was 16.
Why don't they just band together and create new studios that are not held by investors and shitty time crunshes? They did that back and the day and they pumped out great games and became huge companies. If a 1 man team can create an indie game beloved by millions, a few thousand people can do it too.
>>737209134Western devs tend to have a horrible relationship with their actual players, so here on /v/ your average anon sees your average western dev and sees someone who's kind of a cunt, makes shitty games, talks shit to their audience, and, put simply, would not actually be in the industry if they weren't employed by some megacorp.These layoffs aren't hitting small no-name indie devs, they're hitting the faceless grunts and vocal HR harpies/retarded shithead middle management at big companies, and deep down most people give no fucks about those people.
>>737208014Is this the average mindset of people who post here? You think all those thousands of layoffs of your "enemies" will in any way benefit you? The well is drying up for everyone, and some faggot with a game developer degree is going to get laughed out of any non-game dev position.
>>737195687Good, get the FUCK out of my hobby you fucking activist cunts
>>737196092The talent has been gone for like over a decade now my guy
>>737209607>You think all those thousands of layoffs of your "enemies" will in any way benefit you?No, I think it'll hurt them, that's kind of the point.
>>737209607>Is this the average mindset of people who post here?yes? are you new here? incels have infested every nook and cranny on this site. they are perfectly happy with the world burning because their oneitis rejected them in grade school. they are intensely spiteful and rotten "people"
>>737208014If you studied game dev to get a job, well the corpos ain't hiring and it would be a miserable existence anyway. You'd be the port slop monkey at some no-name studio taking some mildly successful indie and trying not to ruin it to get it on a switch.If you studied to work on your own indie game you'll never make it. The success stories are self taught. It was true in the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s... the only thing that's changed is that for some unknown reason the zoomers think having some goober lead them through the UE5 interface will put them on the path to success. The reality is you either "get it" in the first week or not at all. And a year of professional courses isn't going to change that.
>>737195760*no skills at all
>>737199669Yahtzee did a video on this a while back and the short version is that the more people there are, the more a single idea has to be passed around before it becomes an actual job which also has to be passed around. In other words, having more people costs more manhours to do the work.
>>737208537You mean the side that's getting replaced by AI?
>>737197767Yeah, you could work remote in southern italy or greece, you'd need less money to live because everyone is broke so your wage would go up in comparison
>>737196092Anon forgets that alot of newfags hate video games but love to post on /v/
>blizzard>bethesda>bioware>ubisoft>cdpr>rockstarlollmao even
>>737205654Anon...
>>737196092Can a talent value go into the negatives? At worst, this will result in a bunch of short-lived indie studios with all the hacks who leave AAA. But the more likely scenario is that all the talent leaves and forms their own AA studios which actually make real video games. This already happened once back in the 90s.
>>737202408>at which point in the past TV writing was good90s and early 2000s, with a few remaining until the early 2010shollywood peaked from 1960-2000 and it's been downhill from there, though I can pretty much say everything has been downhill since 2008, with additional accelerations in 2016 and 2020
what is the rationale behind celebrating this? it's not like any particular ideological groups are being singled out by layoffs. It's just corporatism making working conditions more miserable. More companies will adopt the policy of churning through employees, so nobody can live a comfortable life in any profession.
>>737212031I love vidya, which is why I care little for the western AAA gaming sphere making almost nothing but shitty movie games, live service garbage made to extract as much money as possible, and absolute swill being shat out by shitheaps like Bethesda.
I find it unlikely that every single developer getting laid off is someone I disagree with politically, and even if they were, rather than rejoicing in their suffering I just think it's more of a shame that the economy is in the state that it is
>>737212948fuck you, you dont belong here.
>>737213031>fitting in on an anonymous websiteah the chud hivemind
THINK OF THE WOMEN, NIGGERS AND TRANNIES YOU COLD HEARTED FOOLS!! NEXT YOULL BE HOPING FOR MASS SHOOTINGS!!! YOU MONSTERS ARE MAKING ME MISS MY DILATION!!! WAAHHHH
>>737196092>mfw the actual talent has been driven out decades ago
Of course i won't. I have finished Game Studies and i have actual passion for games. Not going to be making woke-slop and diviersity bullshit when i get hired.
>>737212948>I find it unlikely that every single developer getting laid off is someone I disagree with politicallyIf they're western game devs, there's about an 80% chance that I disagree with them politically.Not that it matters, as I haven't paid for a non-indie western game in years.I actually had to go back in my Steam purchases, and the last AAA western game I paid for was Half Life Alyx in 2020, and that depends on whether or not you consider that a AAA game.Before that, it was DOOM 2016, which I got on sale for $30 in 2016.
>>737213336yeah wow you sound really soulful and full of inspiration
>>737195687American game devs are the most soulless people in existence. They dont like video games. They actually hate them. But they see them as the easiest "in" to culture influence so they all flooded in there. Then they made a bunch of gay retarded shit that no one likes because it was designed by people who fucking hate video games and really wanted to be in film or television. Then they expect you to feel bad for them because they are getting exactly what they caused for themselves. I don't. These people should be fucking starving on the streets. I value random hobos more than these despicable parasites
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>>737212948>I just think it's more of a shame that the economy is in the state that it isTrump's America. It's only going to get worse.
>>737213503imagine wanting people to starve on the streets because you didn't get the consumer product you wantedi understand being upset by grifters but this is bordering on autistic
>>737213591I would love to see you starve to death too. Im tired of retarded faggots fucking up everything I like.
>>737195687>People lost their livelihoods>CelebrateI bet you wouldn't do this if it were farmers or doctors. Game devs are the only people in the world treated so poorly by the people they work to tirelessly to serve.
>>737213591NTA, but I just don't want them working in vidya, they can go work somewhere else where they're not constantly fucking things up.
>>737213647IT IS ITHE HARBINGER OF YOUR DESPAIR
>>737195687Who cares? Most "game dev" jobs in the last decade consisted of mostly useless corporate drones
>>737213707>where they're not constantly fucking things up.got some bad news for you anon: the people that are chiefly responsible for fucking it up (the execs) are still there. the individual contributors that have 0 power like the devs and artists are the ones losing their job. no one here understands that but that's not surprising since this place is like 90% incels that want the world to burn.
>>737196092There's nothing "desirable" in AAA games for the past 15 years you lying rat.
>>737213728You already have the larping as a religious schizo down. You will make a great street corner beggar.
>Worked in video games for 11 years>Average time most people spend is 3-7 years>40% junior devs leave in the first yearGenerally what happens is you fulfill your childhood dream of working on video games, spend about a year or two in the honeymoon phase, finish a project or two, and quit. Video games programmers are 10x devs and they all leave when they realize they can work for 45k a year on crunch deadlines or get hired by FAANG with a 200k salary and work 3 hours a week because modern devs are fucking retarded, this is not news.
>>737213654>they work to tirelessly to servethey work "tirelessly" for their $3,000/month single bedroom apartment in California. They don't care about video games or gamers
>>737213817>the people that are chiefly responsible for fucking it up (the execs) are still there.The execs fuck up by virtue of hiring people who fuck things up.Let me put it this way, I want them all gone.Period.I want them to go fuck off to some other industry that doesn't matter; they can all go join the AI grift and suck Sam Altman's microdick for all I care.
>>737195687I hope they hang theirselves for the amount of damage they caused and regression.
>>737213654Doctors and farmers actually contribute to society. Game devs don’t.
>>737213845GROVEL PEASANT, AS I TAKE YOUR GAMES AWAYI CURSE YOU TO PLAY... GACHA
>>737213817The execs fuck up by hiring trash people like you. You REALLY dont seem to understand I want to see you all get fucked. You wouldnt stop being a retarded little faggot making gay shit if the execs were gone. We can see how many indie games mirror AAA. I want you all gone.
>>737195760Nigger, developers are like the only people that make games that actually have transferable skills. They'll go work at a company that makes enterprise software. They'll work half the hours for double the pay. With all their new free time and extra money they'll make games during nights and weekends.
>>737203979Coders are a minority among the whole production, those niggas can get some couple courses and learn some web framework and be readily employable, a level designer is worthless anywhere else.
>>737213979marketersPR niggasexecutive skills transfer, it's just levels of managementhell even the janitor has a job with transferable skills
>>737213937you've never worked a corporate job (probably no job ever) and it shows
>>737195687>BASED! BASED! BASED!How is this a good thing? That says LOOKING TO LEAVE, not LEAVING. They aren't going anywhere in actuality because there's no other jobs for them. What you're left with is half the industry having no love for their craft. How could these people ever make good games, if they don't want to?
>>737213979>>737214050Hahaha most people are npcs who wont do shit without a boss man telling them to. If it was so easy to break off from AAA and make a hit game, literally every game dev would do it. But it isnt. Because they are creatively bankrupt retards who are only good for being code monkeys. And who needs to hire you for marketing or cleaning up shit when ranjeet and projeet do it better and for less money? Keep coping all the way to the unemployment office
>>737214123>What you're left with is half the industry having no love for their craft.Bro, that's already the case.Pretty much no one who works at AAA studios has any love for the studios or the work except the new meat who come in with rose-tinted glasses and are excited about working for the dev that made their "dream game," which disappears as they get ground down more and more by the reality of actual game dev work.
>>737214112>broad and useless statement that has been repeated millions of timesyou sure showed me. do you have anymore pre-baked garbage you want to shit out of your mouth?
>>737212031>anon does XHello, reddit!
>>737213554yeah bro amongus and lethal company aren't actually dogshit games and people should be celebrating
>>737213856The only post worth my bandwidth in this thread.
>>737214260>self reporting that the only indies that he knows are streamer shit
>>737214309Maybe if you were back in 2016 but homos on this site are perpetually stuck in the past so no surprise
>>737214246…yes
>>737213932>Game devs don’t.They do, just not these ones
>makes garbage and kills gaming for good>leavesWhat is the news
>>737196092Oh no, only real gamers are going to be making games now, the horror!!!
>>737214246>>broad and useless statement that has been repeated millions of timesbut it bears repeating every time though because it's true. you're a jobless incel that is misplacing their rage.look i get it: you follow a ton of developers on twitter and you're addicted to having your blood boil when one of them posts one of their blue-haired devs in a photo-op. but those devs are mere pawns. they have 0 power in the company. their boss's boss, some white C-suite guy gen Xer, said that "LGBTQ+ is the in thing so we need to hire more of them because it will look good to investors since we can say we're diverse and sheeeeit". you should be getting mad at them but instead you're a brainless NPC that has no idea how the world actually works and just gets mad at whatever fox news tells you to get mad at.
>>737214357you're right, femboy futa house and five nights at cobson's aren't actually dogshit games and people should be celebrating
I cant actually believe there is a sizeable portion of unemployed AAA faggots on this site. Jesus christ try getting a fucking job you retarded jews. Or do you guys double as shills for the companies you worked at
>>737214473Didn't read, sorry.
>>737214498you aren't helping your case buddy
>>737214260>yeah bro amongus and lethal companyLMAO HE PLAYS COOPSLOP, have a kitty
>>737214448There isn't a group that knows less about how their own industry works than gamers.
>>737214559bro whats wrong with your cat
>>737214413Yeah, I stand corrected.
>>737214606It has a terminal case of tranimalism.
>>737195760
>>737214554literally you
>>737213591fuck you faggot redit nigger
>>737214548i fucking bodied you and you're fucking fuming
>>737214575Anon, no one cares about the "industry," the industry isn't necessary, if a dev has a good idea they can just make their own game.It's never been easier, if some random autistic Jap pervert who literally knows nothing about coding can do it then anyone can.
>>737214636>no ukek
>>737207083What will he do when all the datacenters burn down?
>>737214738Not really, it is your standard modern /pol/teen garbage just at a glance. Beg for upvotes more though.
>>737200423>two osts>24 tracks each48 songs? wow
>>737214764>no gameskekkaroo
>>737214473you're absolutely delusional if you think blue-haired character artists have 0 influence over character design
>>737214841>kekkarooway to out yourself
Less games and studios doesn’t automatically make the output better. It just means studios will have less competition to worry about so they’ll want to pay less and cut costs down more and that’ll mean worse output more likely than good output because they do not want to give anyone time to work on stuff. They only want it quickly and cheaply.
>>737214575I hope every single industry dev goes homeless.
>>737195687>seasoned professionalslmao
>>737214862His entire argument is>dont blame the person who robbed you because the mob boss ordered itNo, I can blame both, and no amount of le fox news will change that
>>737214910I don't know why you're posting this as if any of us care about the current output of western AAA studios.It's going from 0 games I give a fuck about to 0 games I give a fuck about, but with fewer employees.
>>737197363
>>737214910Yea, that resulted in terrible games during the 80s, 90s, and 00s.
>>737196092Acceptable.
>>737197363>left>small fun details on top of good gameplay>right>small fun details on top of absolutely nothingfuck I wonder what the issue is
>>737212948>>737213062>>737212879>>737213591>>737213654Sorry, the people who got fired DO disagree with me politically, its the only reason they still have jobs to begin with. Diversity hires, degenerates and cowards. Secondly, by disagreeing with me, it suggests they are traitors to their own race or foreigners, and I have no fucking sympathy for them.You chose to align with evil and now you get to face the consequences. I didn't see you caring when White men were being purged.
>>737195687You'd think some of these people would have the bright idea to form their own studios. That would be a great way to get rehired by the publishers that got them fired since they're willing to burn tens of millions on IP acquisitions.
>>737214951yep, both are at fault
>>737214957If one takes statements on /v/ at face value then there are 0 games worth anything. Just because you personally don't care about games is meaningless and not an opinion worth anything.
>>737195687God I hope this happens. Make it 54% instead. Please.
>>737195687All I'm hearing is the DEI ghouls see the writing on the wall and are jumping ship like the rats they are.
>>737215142I hate to tell you this dude, but most of /v/ doesn't really care about AAA western games.Maybe you'd have better luck with this on reddit.
>>737213554basicallywe are in one of the greatest periods of history for good games
>>737195687GET WOKE GO BROKE BITCH
BRING - MOAR - JEETS>BRING - MOAR - JEETSBRING - MOAR - JEETS>BRING - MOAR - JEETSBRING - MOAR - JEETS>BRING - MOAR - JEETS
>>737215232How is not wanting stagnation from removal of competition a reddit sentiment?
>>737215426Because you're implying that the industry has not already reached maximum levels of stagnation and isn't on borrowed time, pending a full and complete collapse as dev times continue to increase as game quality decreases.I figured people would have seen the writing on the wall about this when fucking EA of all studios got bought out by the Saudis.
>>737214879you're shitting and crying over femboy futa house being called bad what the fuck
It's amazing how many people only read headlines
>>737195954Based, I use to hate people that wanted it to burn but there’s nothing left to lose.
>>737196092No. What's likely to happen is small teams of devs will come together to form a small studio where they make indie games.
>>737207083Then your boss should fire your stupid ass instead of paying you to spout bullshit on 4chan.
>>737214789Bill the taxpayers of course
>>737215958What will happen when the taxpayers decide not to pay?
>>737216013It's not up to them, the irs takes the money and gives it to the government, corpos then bill the government who gives them the money because they're "too big to fail"
>>737215078So it's confirmed to be just generalized malice from losers who flunked out of school and want anyone with a career to fail.
>>737214498Stop it anon stop hitting yourself
>>737215364But why is the picture on the right is of Dr. K? He's not a bad jeet.
>>737216569The customer is always right.If he wants videogames with racism and lolis then you can choose to cater to him or not sell your product
>>737216013After the mass anti-AI uprising doesn't happen he will go back to asking the offshore team to do it.
>>737201582women pretty much always prefer being homewreckers to being normal
im doing my part
>>737198920>>737206469>>737208359the funniest fucking thing about these consulting things are that they are apparently getting raped by AI
>>737216958I'm not doing my part... and it's working!
>>737200371Welfare for women.
>>737206281>>737206539>>737207516I still don't know how this faggot wrote Tali, Jack and Mordin
>>737202408scrubs was good. go watch old tv shows, movies or anime from the 80s or 90s into the early 2000s and they are so much better than modern slop
wait a minute..
>>737196092the WGA mandates everything be ass. they say you need to have x% of your staff be women and y% be nonwhite
>>737209496no capital to start
>>737209134it's the devs and blackrock. blackrock hires and promotes wokefags and indians
>>737217189What happens if you don't comply?
>>737213562you are a thirdie
>>737213979lol no, those jobs go to jeets, not peopleand the pay is way down due to jeetsthere was just some thread on /g/ about some jeet who got hired right out of college to work for some yuropoor software company for like $35,000 a year
>>737206350According to women, they act more friendly towards taken men because "they don't have to have their guard up since they probably won't hit on them, not because they find them more attractive". I don't know if it's bullshit or not though.
>>737217291It would be extremely painful
>>737215364one of the funny things about texas stealing all the tech jobs from california is that they are now full of jeets
>>737217613I see... Can i get away with hiring they/them to sweep the floor?
>>737217291>>737217613WGA blocks you from hiring union writers and blacklists anyone who works on the productionit's like how SAG actors couldn't work on power rangers and SAG actors get in a lot of trouble for doing nonSAG shit
>>737204647Brown hands typed this.
>>737217291Practically speaking you can't run a production in Hollywood. So now they don't!
>>737215364Why does /v/ worship indians so much? They're so incompetent that there is no case where an indian successfully released a game by themselves and no video game company has outsourced making a game to them because they're incredibly stupid.
>>737204828>>737204828>it's still fucking hilarious that disney tried to gay all of their franchises and now are seething that they have no IPs that appeal to men when they have star wars, marvel and pirates and they ruined 2 of themIt's all pride too. They can't stomach admitting they were wrong, removing the damaging elements like the incompetents leading it and the terrible past few movies and just rebooting it to appeal to their primary audience demographic.
>>737195687Thats what they get for trying to turn a passion projects into wagie cagie work
>>737212879We had a decade plus of woke agenda in games and the industry celebrating that capital G gamers were over. The reason they're getting fired now is because companies are downsizing and/or replacing them with cheap indian labor to make up for a lack of revenue from the products they were hocking that whole time. I don't have any sympathy for them because they were gleefully chasing an audience we repeatedly told them didn't exist. Even if they didn't personally buy into it, they should have seen the writing on the wall years ago and planned for this.>More companies will adopt the policy of churning through employees, so nobody can live a comfortable life in any profession.Well maybe if OWS hadn't let feds turn them retarded, they might have accomplished something actually useful and this wouldn't be happening. Instead they all turned into bootlickers because companies tossed a rainbow flag on their logos a month out of the year and prevented anyone from doing anything about their anti-humanist practices. Fuck 'em.
>>737195687Why are there so many dev in the team in the first place? From what I understand only the head of the section and coding team are core, people like 2d and 3d artists are mostly temp hire.
>>737195687Hopefully it is all the blue hairs and they'll go shit up a different industry instead
>>737209496Someone with that risk profile and motivation isn't working for AAA in the first place
>>737217235Crowdfunding exists, they just need to come out with an interesting idea and a decent demo.>but that's not guaranteed successWelcome to real life.
>>737217919>and no video game company has outsourced making a game to themwhat the fuck are you talking about? microsoft has a fuck ton of H1Bs and like 90% of the names in the credits of chants of sonaar are jeets>>737217945it looks like they are trying to kill off nuwars since nuwars didn't sell in their parks and some new merch says >6 episodes
>>737218456Microsoft isnt a video game developer, retard. Stop praising jeets, they are incredibly stupid.
>>737212879>>737218162there's a capcom survey where like 86% of gamers are men and like 4% are troons and less than 10% cared about seeing commie politics in games>OWSit's a shame OWS dies because OWS and the teaparty were so close to uniting and hanging bankers>>737218287make work jobs for minorities and women and so they could say they were growing on stock reports
>>737218557I'm not praising jeets and microsoft is one of the biggest publishers, retardo
>>737217550It's BS self justification Men that have partners still have a chance of hitting on you.
>>737218568>there's a survey whereDon't care unless I see how many respondants there were and where those respondants lived.>because OWS and the teaparty were so close to uniting and hanging bankersThat's precisely why the feds were sicced on them, and that was known even at the time.
>>737214031scene art production perhaps for 3D arts/Movies but yeah good riddance. Time go back to farming.
>>737215571>doesn't understand the pointholy fuck you really are brown
If we're being honest, the only reason the industry ballooned this much is because of blackrock money being injected into it in unimaginable sums for years and years. Now that's drying up, mass layoffs would be the expected result. Anyone still working in the industry should be prepared to go indie or reskill and find other work, because I very much doubt this trend is going to reverse.
>>737195687>surveyed 1000 people>44%Literally nothing. A majority of people laid off are in non important positions anyway. Like when people started losing their minds when blizzard layed off a bunch of people, then it was revealed that like 90% of those people were community relations positions like forum mods.
Lmfao my grandpa just buys me a gaming laptop and a copy of Diablo. I don’t need to worry about all this nonsense, he even drives me to McDonald’s for dinner twice per week. You guys all are so fucking stupid and have yellow cum.
>>737219026>a copy of DiabloWhat, like the first one?
>>737218903Blizzard likely doesn’t make enough money to create new games, let that sink in. Thats why they milk this shit as far as it’ll fucking go innit? Theyre in debt. This type of financial management is like a core gameplay mechanic in earth simulator. Where, we can’t afford nice things, but need to have them anyways. And we do get them, we get nice things but it has to be paid off eventually. The debts can’t just keep climbing forever. Wotlk was one of the feeder expansions where they just do it and try to pay off their debt from clueless blizzdrones who can’t tell when the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. I know all the best expansions and can list them in qwantalogical order in a 3D matrix data struct.
>>737219097I think a lot of dandruff just fell off your head when you were laughing at that crap. You shouldn’t turn your keyboard into a keynotbored without a hair net.
I don't care, these are the devs that-can't program a ladder-use paint guidance-treat veteran players of a series like retards-are greedy-etc
>>737195687>most tranny western devs Excellent
>>737219345All your problems stem from a lack of self-esteem.
>>737195687>this could lead to a slow decline of the industryjej
>>737218695>you>>737218712why would someone lie and claim to be a tranny?
>>737218903end of the rine--------------------rine ends here
>>737202408Simpsons, Seinfeld, Malcolm in the MiddleThat shit was so good
>>737195840Real developers aren't treated very good, either.
>>737195787Being laid off fucking sucks, it's better to quit on your own terms rather than having to scramble. They are doing the same thing by acting as though being laid off is inevitable and looking for other work. Working at a place with zero job security and never knowing when you'll get laid off is bad for your mental health and bad for your self esteem.
>>737195687Losing their jobs isn't enough. They should go to JAIL. That's a decade and a half of YOUR circus they fucked up. 15 fucking years you will NEVER EVER get back.
>>737215264>names zero good games
>>737216960AI is great at making up buzzword salad sentences, so consulting should've been first on the list of niche industries for it to take over.
>>737219982Not only that, ideally you would use your job to be treated better by the hiring team you're facing (if you make 3k then you can negotiate for that same pay or for more benefits in exchange for a lower pay)
>>737195687>sample size = 1,000Completely meaningless
>>737220439t. failed Statistics
>>737220548>We can use whatever sample size we want goy
>>737220548Extrapolation from small sample sizes does not yield accurate data, and if data isn't accurate, it isn't valuable. So yes, 1000 people in a profession that employs hundreds of thousands at least, this sample size is meaningless.
>>737219989not enough, they should diein poverty with a cock up their ass
>>737213554
Why do studios even need like 1000 devs working on a game nowadays?
>>737213979Game developers 40 years ago were hobbyist-professionals, people who grew up with technology, know multiple languages and have an innate understanding of programming, they wrote their own engines and built the games from the ground up, resulting in incredible optimization and quick leaps in progress.Modern game devs are retards who went to a video game dev uni or some shitty coding academy in pursuit of a "high paying ez job", who think C is just a letter or a jeet who blatantly lied on his resume(99% of them do this) and faked it 'til he made it. This results in horseshit optimization, menus being chromium randomly and all sorts of shittery.
>>737216657Isn't he the guy that got Reckful killed by doing LARPing as a pyshcologist?
>>737195687Hurray! I celebrate their demise!
>>737196092A reset is sorely needed right now. Even if there is any remaining talent, it's being severely restricted and decapitated.
>>737207162>Western gaming industryMore like the American game industry. Europe has been producing some good games like bg3 and e33. Although to be fair Europe is an entire continent.
>>737221314>e33>good
>>737221465The gameplay is great, but the story falls apart in the third act. Still, it's a fun game
>>737195687lmaoooooooo
>>737221314holy troon taste
>>737216724the point was that these layoffs aren't ideologically targeted, and those people pinning it on those factors are just looking for a loose justification for their hatred of the professional class.
Every 'dev' is dirty, after that Black Lives Matter black screen fiasco.
>>737196092The writer's strike ruined TV shows not because of talent leaving, but because the unions winning forcing shows to be written by commitee so every asshat in the bloated ass writer's room gets a chance and a cut; this made consistant long-term show contiguity go straight out the window unless everything was paint-by-numbers generic so everyone can cut and paste plots for the episode.>>737197363Soijak image posters all need to be put to death.
>>737221810Yet /v/ loves Valve that hires pro BLM devs and the wokest of the wokest.
>>737221314>pornbrains gate 3>goodPick one
>>737220212from what I understand, 95% of consulting is just giving the company an excuse to do layoffs and gayI can also give word salad bullshit to justify layoffs
>>737221314>good games like bg3 and e33.Transcoded post.
>>737195687OH NO! NO MORE CONCORD-LIKE GAMES ARE GOING TO GET DEVELOPED!S
>>737196092>permanent removal of actual talent80% of media was copied from something else
>>737221465>tell me you never played it: the post
>>737198920Motherfucker I am unironically triggered, fuck you
>>737195687>slow decline of the industryThe industry hasn't made anything that i want to play to close to 10 or 12 years if we're not counting nu Hitman and the Styx series. It's already bad.Never get new Splinter Cell games. Metal Gear Solid is done. No new Deus Ex games, no new Thief games outside of the one VR exception. Hell at this stage I'd might even reluctantly take a Dishonored game over practically nothing at all. The argument for one system shock i suppose was Arkanes 2017 game and also the remake. But when you look at how little we get in that field of niche games of the past its pitiful.Speaking of VR it's practically where i had to move to for a while to find something exciting in gaming again. Even the industry (with the exception of valve) slacked off there and its mainly smaller devs carrying it now. What have the industry done right? they dump boat loads of money and man power into making trend chasing trash like Marathon and GTA6 and Concord and all sorts of boring open world crap too. They don't even spend their time on making anything worth playing. They just shit out Dark Souls clones for the masses and TLOU/Uncharted style movie games. If a bunch of seasoned old game devs don't have the power to make anything good anymore then what was going to change if they were still employed? absolutely nothing. You're asking me to care about whether they are putting food on their table and that's beyond my responsibility to care about. There's one thing they're supposed to do: make video games that i want to play which they are currently not doing.
>>737216569Worse than that. It's stunted manchilds that blame their fried dopamine receptors on faceless devs that are somehow responsible for not recreating the happiness they felt as children.
>>737221314>e33Too masonic for my tastes.
>>737208704Hollywood doesn't work like that. It is probably the most false type of dream that they sell to pull people into the city.
>>737220021anon's right though, we're in an era where you can find a fucking game for your weird little pervert niche, whatever the fuck it is, there's just a million weird little bullshit games out there, I haven't bought a so-called proper AAA game in like a fucking decade
>>737221314>good games >like bg3 and e33
>>737195687Nice, amazing news
>>737221314>good games like bg3 and e33
>>737195687Holy fuck, a bunch of faggot hacks and salary men are thinking about quitting after they ruined the whole industry ??? Dont come back only the passionate and talanted belong here. The gold rush is over and you have no one to blame but yourselves'
>>737213856That’s the real conundrum right there. A true groundbreaking efficient game dev company would function like FAANG. Instead gaming studios are terribly inefficient.
>>737195687Game dev is going back to the nerds. AI is merely expediting the process.
>>737197767Thats good anon, we need more people like you in videogames just hold out. Videogames should be made by people who like videogames. Paycheck niggers should go out the door.
>games will be better once there's less competition
>>737200251As someone living in Berlin. Don't.This city is cancer. Maybe if you wanna have a partying phase around sex drugs and hedonism around your twenties. But otherwise, just stay away.
>>737218796post some good indie games and stop being brown
>>737223294No one capable of making a game worth playing is using AI
>>737223740so games were better prior to the 1983 crash when the market was saturated with slop?
>>737198920let me guess another wagie getting booty blasted by miCHADle managers. Back to the unemployed line wagie
>>737201582Being single is an "ick" to women. A man wearing a wedding band will get more attention from women. I hate women so much it's unreal.
So what do companies do when nobody wants to work in entertainment anymore? AI? Hire pajeet pigs? Nobody will see them anyways with that.
>>737208342>Men cheat more than womenlol no, foid.
Not a problem for gachas lmao.And /v/ will continue to cope about its immense popularity while their own games are unpopular flops lmao>blud thinks he's part of the team
>>737204828>blacks see everything as a race thing and don't understand why people wouldn't want to see something if it has characters of their racei believe they feel inferior so they need constant validation.
>>737195687I just want this industry to collapse so much.
>>737225497What the fuck are you talking about? Aside from a handful, there are tons of gacha coming and going all the time. The ones you're talking about are the equivalent of Call of Duty.
>>737216657>He's not a bad jeetImpossible. They all want to bring their entire family to the west.
wtf why am i getting fired???
>>737195687>>737196092A lot of devs already admit that they just latch onto mainstream shit for the stable income because AAA games take 5 years minimum to release at this point.>>737225497The gacha industry is full of flops because they're all trying to get that genshin or fgo bag. It's funny that the first gamble comes from the devs/publishers trying to catch whales.
>>737209496I guarantee the vast majority of these "developers" being laid off didn't have any usable skillsets whatsoever. Just look at that Jason Thor guy, he kept going on and on about how he's a Blizzard OG WoW hackerman supreme for nearly a decade, and then people found out that the only work he did while at Blizzard was sort through user-submitted error logs for the real programmers and occasionally send a false phisher internally. Even then his co-workers all said he spent most of his time gooning on reddit during work hours.
Aren't profits at a record high, too? So this isn't even the industry "failing" or being punished for wokeness or whatever. After all, the suits are the ones pushing that shit while they fire their devs to pump their stocks.
>>737198142Nothing about the right is automated fucking retard. I pity modern devs that have to deal with whiny faggots like you while also eating shit and getting laid off by higher ups who care even less about you than them. Go watch a GDC vault video and come back to tell me if you still think effects in modern games are automated.
>>737226290no. they're going down. even fortnite lost a ton of players. the covid high is gone.
>>737195760how high are you? the average game developer runs laps around the average software engineer
>>737226290Shits fucked dude. Gaming is down across the board, millennials are the only ones playing anymore. Gen alpha gambles their money away on polymarket in hopes of getting rich and the zoomers are permafucked in the head. Gaming is dying. Profits are fucking thin.
>>737195687When your customers are gleeful to see your downfall, it's best to get out of the business. Gamers are an ungrateful bunch
>>737195687Half the current devs weren't even into games to begin with. They came from random industrial design, modeling, sound engineering and shit like that into gamedev strictly for money. Mostlike during covid overhire era. Every other game documentary you watch devs admit this themselves. Often they didn't play vidya ever. Of course now, when they pay is lower and jobs are much harder to find, they all fuck off to greened pastures.
>>737205143>trim so much fatNumber one rule of business is always fire the competent white people. The more skilled and white, the better. You then hire 4 indians for each white fired and pocket the change.When shit hits the fan, you release your golden parachute and cash out, then move on to the next company. Rinse and repeat
>>737216960>>737221908There actually are consultants who specialize in telling companies to fire people (Jeets) by framing it in as politically correct a manner as possible.
>>737195687it's cute that they think other industry will want them. they are all under qualified and hard to work with by the normal industry standard.
>>737205162>if your wages ever go upWages haven't gone in any significant amount since before we were born.
>>737205407Yup and every time I read about the "dangers of the next video game crash" I can only think of that ork boss in the DoWIV trailer>CRASH FASTA
>>737213979This is not the mid 00s anymore. AI and jeets destroyed software engineering careers and salaries.
>>737207202>If your HR department has more than 1 person per 200 employees, it's just worthless bloat.My company has 3 ppl in HR. 20 people total. They excuse it with "we are rapidly growing" but we hired like 2 last year. THD (total HR death).
>>737228357Yeah, your company is screwed.
>>737200371HR does not contribute anything. They waste everyone's time and make it harder for competent people to do their jobs or get them in the first place. HR was invented to give women something to that's within their abilities, and we're all paying for it.Love from Kazakhstan
>>737228125even the "big prestigious" ones like mckensy just tell people to fire humans and hire jeets. they literally only exist so the ceo or whoever hired them can do what he wants and then blame them if something bad happens >>737227746>>737205143the way any company that's not family owned works is the guys who have decision making power get paid based on the next quarter's stock price/valuation and they make way more money off hitting quarterly goals and exceeding them than actually making the company work long term and the easiest way to hit a goal is to reduce your payroll by firing people and hiring jeets. they'll be fired or quit by the time the jeets ruin the company and they will have already cashed out their stocks>>737228183if their wages go up without accounting for inflation
>>737228410>HR was invented to give women something to that's within their abilities, and we're all paying for it.Actually no. The HR department as a concept came about in the industrial revolution era because managers kept getting fed up with the endless stream of "complaints" and they wanted a proxy to handle it.
>>737226391Do they really? Aren't most game devs just UE specialists?
>>737226290Contraction stages, and not just in gaming. You're gonna see some wild, crazy, insane shit.
>>737196092Until the commies and feminists understand they are not wanted, nothing will improve
>>737208204Yeah and they are eating shit for. Already there are articles about how 90% of companies who replaced their workforce with llm are re-hiring because llms can't do shit.
>>737196092Unironically who's currently in the industry that you's miss? I used to like obsidian and Bethesda but they haven't done anything I gave a fuck about in the last 5+ yearsI like Kojima ok but he isn't going anywhere
>>737209134If you are a dev working for such a big company I will consider you utterly retarded. Find some mates to make some smaller games where you can have actual agency first but instead they want to be at the big boy table with the millions and millions in budget and thousands of retarded coworkers.Retards get what they deserve.
>>737209607>benefitThem getting fired like the shitstains they are provides more entertainment to me than any of their products ever could.Best part is I don't even need to spend money, they do it for free!
>>737212948If they agreed with me politically they wouldn't have been retarded enough to remain in the employment of a billion dollar company staffed by shitskins, managed by women and owned by jews.
>>737195687Take your meds.
>>737226290>record profitsniggy you live under a rock?Companies banked on that they can get away with meme shortages and putting asset flipping jeets and unironic commies everywhere, and now they reap what they sow.This is not Las Vegas where getting rid of poor people will make record profits, and putting everything on the 1% of the population will carry. That is already failing as nobody is paying a gaming PC's full price for 2 sticks of ram. Gaming needs low and middle income households, which will now either exit gaming sphere or its gonna be a status symbol, especially with sony. Nonwhites love playstation, because they can flex on other poorfags. Nintendo will bank on millenial's childhood like they did for 20 years, and MS will most likely get out of consoles as a whole.>>737228410HR and white collar sphere as a whole is daycare for women to not have kids.
>>737213591Imagine being a trannoid freak!
>>737213817Retarded execs are deathly afraid of competent people, which is why you won't find any such people working for them.
>>737195687yea that's why I've always been hesitant about pursuing a career in game dev, it just seems like a constant cycle of layoffsmuch prefer working on a good indie game as a side hobby, maybe post it up on steam if it ever reaches a point where it feels good
>>737218603Shut up, Microbot
>>737208704well, the twd season 1 writer was laid off and went on to make something decent.it's still baffling telltale decided to lay off the story guy for their story based franchises that got popular because of the writing.that's the kind of bullshit that made people strike back then, people who can write will go write books or work on smaller projects.remember, anytime the jews cry about competency crisis what they mean is "people with talent won't work for pennies". as the chinese say, you get what you pay for.
>>737214789How many are actually being built anymore?
why does vee want gaming industry to die?
>>737201912The correct sequence is:Mop, Mop, Mop, all day long, Mop, Mop, Mop, while I sing this song
>>737217613You're a big corp.
>>737201912>a competency exam for janitorial workI know this is a joke, but it would be deeply unsettling if credentialism actually went this far.
>>737229504The carefree youth who once browsed this board grew up into NEETS whose collision with the real world left them mentally broken and seething at the world in general. You can see it in how they lash out indiscriminately (>>737213937 ) that they will make up any justification to just hate anybody.
>>737197106you are a gorilla nigger retard if you think woke was at the hand of the devs that are leaving and not from up top managers.what do you think all the constant "western devs bad" threads are about? so that when they fire people you celebrate that woke is dead while they hire jeets and enshittify your vidya even more.>but they are putting tits in games againthat's the sugar to make the pill go down.>>737211550was it the chips one? where to add an npc eating from a bag of chips it can take months and no less than 10 people involved?
>>737195687>seasoned professionals
>>737229504AAA is a cesspool of people at every level who frankly don't belong in the industry, but are too entrenched to ever hope for them to just leave. If the industry dies, then they will be gone and that leaves room for the industry to renew itself.
>>737228731they are replacing their workers with jeets, not humans>>737229336saar!
>>737209496even if they did they'd eventually get big enough to hire a jew that will make them go public and then we're back to square one.why is steam winning so hard? private company
>>737229835Microjeet, stop trying to call anyone else here Indian, you faggots are literally run by a literal bald fucking street shitter.
>>737230009Why can't another company escape the jew if Valve could?
>>737230206Because the owner of Valve is a Jew.
>>737230129I don't work for microjeet, retard>>737230009steam isn't just private, it's owned by gabe. there are private companies owned by private equity
>>737230607>I don't work for microjeet, retardThen stop defending their Deadbox
>>737230597I checked his early life section on Wikipedia and it doesn't say Gabe is Jewish, sorry
>>737230696I never defended it, I said they replaced humans with jeets, ESL
>>737196497Unions and regulations exists only to make it too expensive for small studios and small competitors.This is also the results of union turbo jewing. Less security for workers, not more.Dont even reply to me if you dont think that value is subjective.
>>737230806Early Life won't bring up his lineage unless he actually grew up among them. They only treat their bloodlines well even if they are not officially recognized.
>>737231019They are going full lawfare on him, so it's impossible for him to be jewish
>>737209496Because they wouldnt want to waste their own money. These developers are not forced the make woke concordian shit. They are choosing to do so. Imagine they go indie, they put their own money, they launch woke shit number 8443 and they lose the money. They are evil, but not that retarded to lose their own money.And no, making a normal game that normal people enjoy would feel like a betrayal to their own beliefs.
>>737201582retard
>>737197363>Leftactual details put there with intention, a literal manual spec in the canvas>RightEngine physics
>>737196092>a permanent removal of actual talentWhat talent?Amerishart devs can't even code their own engines anymore. They've been vibe coding before it even became a term with AI shit coming into play, what with UE. They can't even muster the mental capacity for developing good AI in games; that's why so many are stuck in multiplayer extraction shooter loops of slop while the single player attempts are rendered boring slop. You have no talent, especially the entitled troons.
