Post characters who didn't deserve it so bad
>>737196616On that same token..
>>737196616
>>737196616>>737196731At least they have each other
>>737196616>>737196731In the end deserve had nothing to do with it, they were real niggas and real heroes who fought to the end for what was just and right, and in this house X and Zero and heroes, end of story
>>737197065>they were real niggas and real heroes who fought to the end for what was just and rightnigga didn't even know what he was fighting for
>>737196616-ACK
>>737196731X had it worse. That being said, X wouldn't have had it nearly as bad as he did if he would've just let Zero die.
>>737196616>>737196731Axl mogs them
>>737197485That's not X thoughever
>>737196616infinite potential btw
>>737197760In what?
>>737197916Potential.
>>737196616>>737196731Wrong on both counts.
>>737197760Compared to everyone else Axl is hilariously unhinged. The man lives in a robot zombie apocalypse and is loving every second of it. The only time he's even slightly bothered by murdering all his old coworkers is when he kills his adopted dad, and by the time the next game starts he's already over it.If anything Axl had it too good for the setting which is why they had to kill him off between series.
>>737197760didn't deserve it enough desu ne.
>>737196616Man... X is such a fucking cool character, I really want a new X game...
>>737197760Literal who character
>>737198507He's that guy that Flame Hyenard wants to burn to the ground.
>>737196616>>737196731>>737197943Just about everyone involved in the original X game got screwed over by circumstances beyond their control.
>>737198412he's gone bro.... everyone is gone these days, except Leon, and even Leon isn't technically the same Leon from all those years ago
>>737198412X corrupted is coming.Eventually. Probably.
>>737198601Nah there's a chance for him to comeback, onimusha came back as well and MM12 is a thing.Eventually it'll happen it just might take a little more, hell DMC5 was a thing even after DmC.
>>737198723even if we get a new X game, we still know that the events of Zero are at the end and it'll still be sad
>>737196731>>737196616Name a better vidya friendship. These niggas have literally died for each other, on multiple occasions.
>>737198925Forgot my image
>>737198902They're both "alive" in zx anyway, they could just make another jump in the future were they get new bodies,
>>737199071I remember when I was younger playing ZX and completing Zero and when you henshin into X and Green Grass Gradation starts playing I got teary eyed because I thought the old heroes were back still fighting
>>737197760Obnoxious ass character. Only saving grace is that he's an asshole. Thank God Archie didn't have a chance to do a long running X comic to turn him into a "HECKING WHOLESOME" character like what they did to Silver. He was also a fucking dick, but now he's the naive and cute hedgehog of the group. Still, both of these characters are having a resurgence in popularity among the zoomers that grew up with their trash games and honestly believe they're part of the main team. Mega Man X is X and Zero. Fuck Axl.
>>737198902That is not how that works.
>>737199228Silver isn't meant to be a dick, he's supposed to be naive. He believed Mephiles when the latter claimed Sonic was the Iblis Trigger, and tried to blindly destroy him and anyone who got in his way until Shadow kicked his ass and forced him to see for himself. Then he mellowed out.
>>737199071They aren't "alive" in ZX. They're long dead. The biometals aren't them. Jesus, it's like nobody actually plays these games.
>>737199226Me too anon, the X series deserves a metroidvania spinoff, something like that strider game. Also what corrupted is trying to do. Give these characters more time to talk and be themselves with each other, a bigger game and bigger progression systems beyond getting new weapons.
>>737196616Ceil and Cial
>>737201052
Why the fuck did Mega Man, which started as a series about a happy little guy shooting lemons at goofy robot bad guys, end up getting so fucking grim and depressing? Even worse is when they made ALL the games canon to one another so the end point is Legends where even humans are extinct and the whole world is flooded and remembers nothing of what came before.
>>737201149Astro Boy inspiration, despite the childish artstyle of Tezuka, he regularly tackled darker topics.
>>737201149Humans are still around in the BN/SF timeline, which ends pretty hopefully.
>>737201274>Princess KnightWe will not be receiving any new anime or games featuring her?
>>737196989Few characters have killed each other as many times as they have.
>>737197936X is "Potential Man," find a new shtick, scrappy doo
>>737196616She deserves her own game...
>>737198580And it's all his fault. Guess he won in the end.
>>737197916He gets to hold hands with the cutest helper. Zero gets the hottest with Layer.
>>737201524>her latest axed games use nemesis system, which lock until 2036What's the point of living?
>>737197265He knew, but after having to kill his cute GF who went nuts cant really blame a guy for questioning for that moment.
>>737198925I did like it better when Zero was the bigbro homie wingman instead of the series focusing on him(in X that is, Zero as MC in his own series was cool).But yeah X and Zero are one of the best Bro's in vidya.
>>737201052Cial did nothing wrong. Ciel is the issue.
>Police dealing with the local militia being retardedMany such cases.
>>737201618>want to prove you're the better bot builder.>your creation pals around with the bot you've sent it to destroy.>get killed by your creation in the end>all humanity dies because of your egoThat man had it all coming to him.
>>737202205Zero never killed him.
Reminder: Gate did literally NOTHING WRONG
>>737202205>>all humanity dies because of your egoHumanity still survived all the wars and clusterfucks, in the end they achieved heaven in elysuim and stopped having children until the last one died
>>737202080This stage a coup. She acted disloyally towards her superiors and betrayed master X!
>>737202382>Casually revives Sigma
>>737202382>Revives Ligma balls for NO REASON
>>737197796I remember some newgrounds animation where X owed Zero some money and the animation used that to imply Zero sliced X up
>>737202387>reploid pussy became so good it made humanity go extinct
>>737202890"Fuck you too" is prefectly valid reason
>>737202382>>737202095Who's dumber: Gate or Repliforce?
>>737202095>Never got a Maverick Hunter X4 that expands on the narrative and give us an OVA of the events leading up to Sky LagoonFUCK
>>737203514Repliforce. Gate wasn't even dumb.
>>737203514Gate was unironically shunned by SOCIETY for being too smart and all his reploids got fucked overRepliforce were overly prideful retards who refused to stand down and talk it out and created a whole ass war over it
>>737202095>>737203576Repliforce could see opportunity as humans population steady decline.
>>737203520>give us an OVA of the events leading up to Sky LagoonDragoon wants to fight X to compare their strength. X says no obviously because he doesn't like fighting. Sigma convinces Dragoon to do his dirty work to provoke X into fighting him. Dragoon crashes Sky Lagoon with no survivors. There, that's what happened. Making an OVA about it is stupid.
>>737203779Anon, their boss was dumb enough to trust Sigma.
>>737203779Human population wasn't on the decline at all, I don't know where you got that from.
>>737203907C-virus
>>737203854>>737203520Maverick Hunter X2 should introduce General, Colonel, and Iris
>>737203854>Commits a 9/11 tier tragedy just to make X fight himWas it autism?
>>737204221Yes which is ironic because one of X's sons and his daughter end up developing the same waku waku autism.
>>737203854>If I just summarize everything then there's no point of making anythingI bet you love reading movie plots off Wikipedia.
>>737204221Akuma gene
>>737203514Repliforce was full of freshly built Reploids who yolo'd into war to solve their problems because they never knew how to do anything else. Imagine being born a General with that being your actual name. You've got no life experience besides simulations and are expected to tard wrangle a bunch of combat autists. He and the rest of Repliforce were doomed from the start even without Sigma's bullshit. Gate was an accredited scientist but fucked around with cosmic space aids anyways. I'd say he's dumber just because he really should have known better. Especially after how poorly that worked for everyone else that tried.Hubris and all that.
>>737202231Wait really? I thought that whole series of nightmares/flashbacks in X4 was zero reliving the destruction of wily's lab, and wily himself... blood on hands and all that.
>>737204070Would be a good idea so that there's a little more weight to them by the time X4 would roll around. It would also help establish Zero and Iris. Xtreme 2 kind of does this, but that one is set after X3.
>>737204574>Implying there's sensitive intricacies to a story about a militia rebelling over not wanting to talk to the authorities over pride
>>737204969No, those are just Wily's programming trying to resurface. It's just foreshadowing for X5.
>>737205038The is a whole ass backstory about the Repliforce being incompetent and potentially dangerous before Lagoon happens. The Hunters being understaffed and then getting better. Dr. Cain fucking dying. Sprinkle Zero and Colonel having some friendly sparing while Iris looks worried from afar and there is probably enough for a OVA
>>737196616>>737196731Fuck Megaman Zero, these two should have retired at some point and that was it
>>737202825>>737202890>>737203514>t, glowie simps
>>737205712Megaman Zero isn't the definitive be all of the X series.
>>737205038That's exactly what I'm implying you imbecile. You use the opportunity to expand and add nuances. X4 has a ton of material to work with that just never materialized. An OVA about the lead up to Sky Lagoon wouldn't just be a Dragoon story. It's like bitching that Maverick Hunter X got an OVA because the manual gave you the QRD.
>>737206158And what I'm trying to explain to your dumbass is that it's a retarded idea and not everything needs an absurd amount of depth.
>>737206158I thought it was neat that Zero got to talk to Iris one last time in X zone 1.
>>737206449And you're retarded. If we were strictly talking about in game material then toss it out. An OVA, film, TV show or whatever alternative format is where you want that material to show up. Consider retiring yourself my mav.
>>737207136I hate to break it to you asshead but the Day of Sigma OVA was in game material.
>>737207292An extra accessible from the main menu only after you clear the game. Yeah, real fucking ingame.
>>737201453That's because they love each other
>Best and only remaining friend seals himself away for no reason>Sacrifice your life to stop an evil entity>Some retard kid makes a copy of you and pretends it's the real you>The copy dismantles your legacy and reputation by being a retard>Then your body gets destroyed by a different retardX had a hard life
>>737208795>Watch your body get destroyed by a retard while your best friend stands like an idiot
I only played 30 minutes of the story, but Cardfight Vanguard Dear Days has an aspect of the story that is "dark" in a sad and funny way.>You play as an overachieving high school girl>Little brother struggles with everything in life except the card game>Sister thinks brother has a girlfriend at first, but it's just the card game>You proceed to become better than him in the only thing he's good at it>>737204538>>737204620That's funny.>>737208795He got to jack in to Alia, at least.
>>737210019When.Demonophobia port on SNES and X68k?
>>737205015>Xtreme 2I envision Berkana and Gareth as Roll and Protoman, who have become Mavericks...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VjzOZrCmzk
>>737197916Being fatally wounded and trapped in a space elevator forever
Makes absolutely 0 sense why Ubisoft has completely neglected him for over a decade. Especially after the popularity of Origins and Legends.Theyre fucking RETARTED
>>737197675In X2 and X6 it's Wily himself who repairs Zero. It's never explained how he is able to download his personality to specific robots.
>>737202935Thankfully they created the carbons because being eternal perfect beings is boring and pointless.
>>737199228>Sonic shitHe deserves it because he's a Sonic character and is therefore trash. Axl sucks, but at least he's not a Sonic character.
>>737205712Anon, they have no choice but to continue the fight because things were getting worse.
Zero was a faggot
>>737212369>Theyre fucking RETARTEDI mean it's pretty fucking obvious at this point.
>>737196616X didn't deserve it. The art work from MegaMan Zero makes it look like he'e been through some traumatizing shit. At least he's not bald.
>>737212972What was even the point of Prime 4?
>>737207292>"You've gone Maverick.">https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Man_X>Tier: At least 2-C>Attack Potency: At least Low Multiverse levelYou're fucking kidding, right? How am I supposed to beat that guy?
>>737213017We already got Sigma.
>>737212972What does Samus even do for fun? I bet she is traumatized when every guy runs after seeing her feather pubes.
>>737197760What I really want from a new X game is to finally give him a chance to be in a good game.
>>737212873Zero can't refuse. He must continue Repliforce bloodline.
>>737213152ZX Adv-pfft I can't even bring myself to say it lmao, the model A gimmick was just worse than what they already had in ZX. Bloating a roster of different forms from 5 solid forms to 16+ forms with only a handful of the new forms being tolerable to use outside of when you're absolutely forced to as glorified keys for traversing areas was a terrible idea.
>>737197760Axl wasn't so much bad as he was unnecessary. If there's one point I will give him, brushing X8's never-ever-continued nature aside, it's ZX Advent bait and switching with his designs and ability to not be involved at all.
>>737196731Why did Wily create Zero with the capability of free will and autonomy? Makes me believe that the Rockman-san manga is canon and Wily did have a change of heart before his death.
>>737213434He heard Light was also doing that and wanted to one up him.
>>737213434His free will is an accident product of Willy's bad coding plus virus. Even then, he has eternal soldier syndrome as a revenant of his murder machine programing
>>737213316Does Chris know that Dante from the DMC series is fucking his sister?
>>737213434Wasn't part of the explanation that Zero was repaired by Cain when he was taken in damaged after the Sigma balls steel pipe rape incident of 94?
>>737213632No, Zero hid himself to repair himself.
>>737198723>Nah there's a chance for him to comebackBig chance actually since X is still popular. Classic is more popular, but X and BN are right behind Classic by a really, really thin margin. >MM X Legacy Collection · 1.50 Million [+100k]>MM X Legacy Collection 2 · 1.10 Million [+100k]The "+100k" are the sales from April 2025 to June 2025. The X Collection sold well and has legs. X9 is the next logical choice for a revival after Onimusha and MM12.
>>737213980Capcom will never do X9 since fangames like Corrupted are better than anything they have putout recently. The new MM games look like stuff put together by fresh interns.
>>737213980To add to this, a good X9 would probably make X surpass Classic.
>>737214146There's a grand total of one X fan game that's made any distance lately and that's the X8 demake. Corrupted is still development hell and most others are just wafing about with a lot of Youtube videos and demos but nothing substantial besides Viral Nightmare which is its own bag of worms.
>>737214146>fangames like CorruptedThat game isn't even out.>The new MM games look like stuff put together by fresh internsWhat's wrong with 11? It's a Classic game but with the speed and flow of X.
>>737201149A realistic explanation is the same one why Cain became such a famous figure:Wily's repeated antics caused humanity to put heavy restrictions on roboticism. You could only learn if you belonged to a huge corporation and even those were under surveillance. Robots were rightfully feared.Never wondered why Cain was an Archeologist and nobody else of note was mentioned in the X Series? Because there isn't anyone. Their science was on decline and Cain was using archeology as cover for him to search ruins and learn robotology with whatever he could dig up.Which was X.X elevated him beyond his peers and nobody could come close to understanding that technology, nobody could come closer than him who was far from it.So yes, Reploids became heroes. They fixed cities, they saved people, they constructed a lot. But when Reploids went Maverick, who was there for countermeasures? Cain was the guy that built the Maverick Hunters. For a good while he was the best scientist in that era bar none.There wasn't a Dr. Light there, just a guy building better and better replicas which were all still worse than the original.It took until X6 for Gate to figure something closer by analyzing Zero. Then X8 with the Copy bots. Then we get to the Elf Wars and the world is fucking reset. We get a genius like Ciel but her Magnum Opus became a dictator.The entire problem all traces back to Wily.
>>737213152Are you talking shit about X1?
>Be slated as new protagonist>Game is literally named after him>Be overpowered during the location tests>Get nerfed to bottom tier in released game>Have canon bad ending in which he turns evil and becomes a vampire>Planned to be included in the next game as said vampire>Get cut instead>Get added back in for updates of said game>Said updates are hated and no one plays them>They keep playing the version without him instead>Finally follow through with the vampire form idea years later in a later PS2 compilation>It's just an underwhelming Demitri headswap>Ending included in said compilation also implies he ends up getting killed by the girl he swore to protectBeing Donovan is suffering
>>737214234>What's wrong with 11? It's a Classic game but with the speed and flow of X.Nothing. Easily one of the best. Someone needs to mod in the weapon wheel into old games.
>>737213594As long his niece or nephew rise in christian household.
>>737213017>>737202080Why did Ciel make copy X?
>>737215549Because the people in charged asked her to give them a new X since the old one was sleepy
>>737215549She was literally born for this purpose and told to do it. she's a test tube babby. It wasn't until it backfired that she realized she made a big mistake
God fucking damn it. Mega Man depresses me once you read into things. X and Zero were goddamned heroes bros no matter how things turned out.
>>737215674If you look at the series beyond the aesthetics, the reploids as a whole were heroes. There were trees with circuitry inside them everywhere, which indicates in spite of the Maverick problem, Reploids repaired a lot from the post-Classic world after all of Wily's ploys.And they got a brief era of peace for that. It took until X5 for a widespread event that would make people question those things again. It's a miracle only after Copy X falls that mankind starts having robot racism considering that by X6 they were in underground bunkers while the atmosphere was recovering from Eurasia's fall.
>>737215828Legends should NEVER have been made connected to the other games ffs, it's fucking depressing
>>737215918I mean, come on now. Eurasia Incident + Elf Wars is already depressing. 98% of Earth besides Area Zero and Neo Arcadia are a wasteland, and the overwhelming majority of humanity was wiped out to be turned into a corralled minuscule city's worth of a populace left before they cheered for the persecution of the majority species for the sake of their privilege. At that point the last remnants of humanity ascending so hard that they die peacefully by choice is pleasant by comparison.
>>737202382why did this retard revive sigma as a "last resort"
>>737215587>>737215612Is it worth destroying her creations? (son)?
>>737215918Nah it's just Turn A Gundam but for Megaman, some far off distant future that eventually happens one way or another, a mistake would be showing the cataclysm that directly leads to it.
>>737213017god I love this dark chunni shit
>>737196782She clearly didn't have enough of her family killed off
>>737196616>>737196731Mega Man X sucked. Should have been axed after the first game.
>>737196616>>737196731Bloom and Icy (Winx Club video game using Megamam X engine)
>>737216648>a mistake would be showing the cataclysm that directly leads to itBased, the changes from Classic to X and X to Zero/ZX to Legends are massive and happen throughout the course of centuries. It's not one big cataclysm that causes these events but a gradual decline that leads to humanity's demise. Part of the appeal in these dark transitional periods between Mega Man series is that it's left to the audience's imagination. And that shit is great. I love that it's unexplained. Legends is just the logical conclusion to the series. Carbons and adroids are basically human-reploid hybrids and the line between man and machine is gone. Mega Man's legacy carries on and life moves on. If it weren't for Volnutt being stuck on the moon, Legends 2 would be the perfect book end for the series.
>>737196616He lacked a spine and it lead to the extinction of humanity, unironically Sigma was the Ideal leader. They should have focused all their effort into getting Sigma rid of his infection or just make a Sigma clone to lead the repliforce and humanity would be perfectly fine and safe.
>>737208795>>737209865>scientist that's not a roboticist tries replicating your blueprints>accidentally instigates a centuries long war>a child tries to replicate you verbatim at a later point in time>the clone turns into a tyrant that almost wipes out humanityDestroying X's body was the best overall decision. The two times humanity tried copying the lad they caused their own destruction and extinction.
>>737218324I mean to be fair, the child succeeded at what her job entailed, so either we take the story and lorebooks at face value and she did what Cain couldn't, or we consider that she recreated what Cain managed of X in the first place so building flaws on top of flaws. The main reason Copy X turned tyrant was because he was a child with no memories, no experience, and no morality code testing due to rushing him into the throne of ruler. Like a kingdom that installs a puppet prince in a succession crisis for keeping the peace, except the prince has an arm cannon and the messiah status that everyone listens to instead. At face value he was doing exactly what humanity needed of him too.Of course without the Maverick Virus no one can blame any of this on a defect, just on the sheer fucked up nature of humanity and Earth in the Mega Man franchise. Read too much into the X and Zero games, and frankly everything the villains don't cause, the humans enabled.
>>737215549Cial*
>>737218935Zero manga was a fever dream. Wish it had been a more normal adaptation.
>>737218793Big problem copy X had was he was given power but he didn't have the experience or burdens of X, but he WAS also designed to protect humans so he went off the deep end. In a way. Copy X was only doing what he was told to. He just went to the deepest logical outcome
>>737208684They must REALLY love Sigma then.
>>737212873X burning the Repliforce flag was kino.
>>737212531My bet is that both Wily and Light are cyber elves, at least light is as shown in that one elf wars panel on the archie comics.
>>737219115X going schizo from unstable upgrades and the never ending string of conflicts he found himself getting thrown into was also nice.
>>737218324Sure, but did it have to come to an end at the hands of a janitor? He's fought reploids that control the elements, time stoppers, literal viruses, a fucking mushroom, a reploid with chaos emeralds, Space Sigma, an embodiment of a virus. And he's done in by a janny?
>>737219021It has fun moments if you take it for what it is. Also Ciel having a younger twin is cute.
>>737219271>And he's done in by a janny?And he did it for FREE
>>737219271If anything it highlights how fucked up a problem the Dark Elf was. Elpizo was a nobody. The Dark Elf could turn any single individual being into a Zero or X tier nightmare. With Zero 3 in mind, it's an extended prologue to terror.
>>737219271It was more about showing how much of a flying ball of crack the baby elves are. Also X's body was on a coma with his soul wandering around, not much for defense there.
>>737219198That panel is a fucking mess
>>737219057>No Lumine in X8That comic's shit.
>>737219502>Omega's mech suit is armor>Weil isn't using the Dark Elf infused with Omega as per his plan during the Elf Wars>Neo Arcadia golems before Neo Arcadia even exists>Zero in some weird amalgamation of his X series and Zero series armor with red eyes for some reason>Dr. Light is T-posing as Cyber Elf X >Axl just entirely in the wrong fucking timelineI hate Sonicfags so much, it's unreal.
>>737219264It also introduced Mega Man X Zero.
>>737219502>Light is around as an elf and actively participating instead of being a hologram in his capsule>Weil is there in his normal human form some reason>Golems before Neo Arcadia>But Zero is there, with the implication that he's in his original body instead of clone body>But Omega is also fucking there >Axl in general
>>737219801Is this gay?
>>737196616X had a hard life...
>>737219801I thought the manga had ended with X4 but that's clearly X5 Sigma. What is this?
>>737219634>>Axl just entirely in the wrong fucking timeline??It's not like Axl is non-canon just because X7 and 8 happened separately of Inafune's ideas. The only game that "may" be a separate thing is Command Mission which Rockman Online may have considered fucking with the idea of, but that also means nothing and can easily just be a random side adventure with the 22XX wound back. It's a weird thing to nitpick about when he can easily retire/die between things anyway.
>>737219974I'm not saying he's not canon, he's from a different timeline all together, specifically the X timeline. The timeline splits at X6 based on either Zero's ending which leads into the Zero series or X's ending if you don't unlock Zero.
>>737219968That's the one shot X5 manga special. Basically a "What if X5 DID get a manga based on it"
>>737219502Isn't Omega literally just Zero with a hulking armor? Why is Zero in his usual armor while X has his new armor? why is cyber elf X in there? why is Axl alive?
>>737220053>Both lead to LegendsGood old Turn A Gundam syndrome.
>>737220085Archie, that's why.
>>737220116Legends is so far into the future that it's basically a soft reboot of that universe.
>>737212814Wow, so this is what to much Dorkly or Arin Hanson brainrot does to a person
>>737212110This is the second time I seen someone mention them being stuck in Jakob. Nothing in X8's ending implies they're stuck on Jakob. Jakob is perfectly functional and wasn't even part of the final fight. Sigma's Palace is on the moon, away from Jakob. They are actively riding Jakob down during the ending. Who is spreading this shit?
>>737220053That's not how it works. Even the thing you're pointing at demonstrates that isn't how it works. Zero's X6 ending is post X-series, and in the X ending Zero just fuckin shows up at the end even if you don't get him and says he'll return at his own discretion which flies in the face of his own ending. There isn't some timeline split, the image itself points out that Zero series IS the future of the X series, but the X games aren't closed off for future ideas on their own terms.
>>737220202They're saying it as a joke about how there was never any followup to them taking that elevator down so they're stuck there in that sense.
>>737220053Was the whole timelines stuff even a thing back then?. I tought the prevalent theory was that Axl just fucking died in the elf wars
>>737219801truly, they were a Mega Man ZX.>this is what Model ZX looks like in-universe
>>737202935It is Canon, Reploid women are subordinate to Human men.
>>737220260I can see the similarity.
>>737219502>Sonicfag try to make themselves the expert of shit they've never experienced>they end up embarrassing themselvesThey can't help themselves. They always try to inject themselves into other fandoms. The worst ones are powerscalers among the Sonicfags whom act like they know everything about every series. Let's not get started on pic related.>Volnutt is depicted as alone even though there are other people with him in the moon.>Emphasis on IN THE MOON. Why the fuck is he on it?>Volnutt being OOC.
>>737213594Wesker canonically fucked Claire in the CV novel.
>>737220189I don't know who these people are.
>>737220085You have celebrated retard Ian Flynn trying to do what he does best and make call backs and references to the games that he only researches through wikipedia summaries.
>>737220085To play devil's advocate, there's concept art for Zero 3 where Omega's armor looked closer to human size, which the artist might've been inspired from. Seems like only later did they make him like 4-5x Zero's size. But the weird red-eyed look for Zero there is probably just pulled from fanart.
>>737220213That is how it works. You dictate that, Capcom does. Get the fuck over it Intifag.>>737220247Yes it was. It's been a thing since the Classic series had a branch that split off into X. Classic still has a branch that was never even explored, one where Wily had a time machine and fucked around in that one.
>>737220456Well, I'm sorry that the Sonicfags are stuck woth Ken Penders or whatever. I can safely ignore Archie because O have Mega Kino.
>>737220554Yeah Megamix/Gigamix are the best megaman manga.
>>737220053>timeline image from a fan to help dragalia lost players know how mega man time works being used for some canon example
>>737220631>Megamix/Gigamix are the best megaman mangahttps://youtu.be/hqFsp0-l3es?si=cMyt3t12Ijtophxm
>>737196782>even the house cat got plowedTakahashi you motherfucker.
>>737220631BN had a decent manga. The final battle between Mega Man and Proto Man went full s-CRY-ed.
>>737220645It's being used as an example, not a canon one. This is >>737220542Also Dive.
>>737220482>But the weird red-eyed look for Zero there is probably just pulled from fanart.Yeah, specifically this one
>>737196616>>737196731>>737196989Very true.
>>737196782Her loss becomes all the greater the more entries the series has and the more happy couples that come from those sequels.
>>737220631I wish they'd reprint those. As someone who likes reading physical copies it feels weird only having 3/6 of the volumes.
>>737220053On the left, you have some of the most influential 2D action games. On the right, you'll get a revolutionary card battling ARPG series. Yup, Mega Man mega won.
>>737201618>>737202205Willy did fucking win the end. Zero was the superior robot through and through.
>>737196731he got out fineits realy ironicthat the savior of mankind was willy and not light
>>737220895>We two dear men, friends forever, were here. If you want to know our names, they are X and Zero.
>>737220858Oh man, that's fucking funny.
>>737220994>Zero was the superior robot>Zero acknowledges X as superior throughout the series>X actually has a victory over Zero >Zero could only tie with XI'll never understand people that say this.
>>737220858Wish Zero kept this armor for the final game, it looks cool as fuck.
>>737220994Zero would argue otherwise but then X would argue that Zero is indeed better and then it just turns into a competition of X and Zero praising each other because they're gay like that.
>>737220979>influential 2D action gamesIt's too bad that only indies try to succeed that and absolutely none of them actually manage to get things tightly. I can see something occasionally top or equal Contra, Mario styles are so dime a dozen that people are evolving past that to other shit, but what do we got for Mega Man? Gravity Circuit, Berserk Boy, Super Alloy Ranger? I don't count 20XX/30XX because they basically just mimic MMX but Roguelite with lawyer friendly shit and jank.
>>737220994>>737221020while Zero ended up the most powerful robot he still in the end went in the exact opposite of Wily's intent and was a force of good, in a way it's more humiliating to have the strongest creation but it goes counter to your wishes
>>737198702>X corrupted is coming.>he doesn't know
>>737214146>since fangames like Corrupted are better than anything they have putout recently>he thinks Corrupted will EVER be completedNigga the people born in the year that fucking project was started on are old enough to go to college now. That retarded BR will NEVER release the fucking game because he fell for the feature creep meme.
>>737213434>Why did Wily create Zero with the capability of free will and autonomy?He wanted to create a superior robot. Light "wasted" hundreds of years giving X things like empathy and compassion while Willy just went>Fuck it
>>737221149>. I can see something occasionally top or equal Contra, Mario styles are so dime a dozen that people are evolving past that to other shit, but what do we got for Mega Man? Gravity Circuit, Berserk Boy, Super Alloy Ranger?I dunno, man. I've seen many Mega Man likes, but I don't bother playing them and focus on Mega Man.
>>737221168Wasn't Zero using a Reploid body, which would've only been possible with Light's creation of X?
https://youtu.be/c-gwhRxXstk?si=s-q4d3JO8wyXSmWZ
>>737221361His original body is robot, and then after Serges rebuilds him the games never attempt to clarify if he's still robot or not. By black box / core classification he's still robot, but the vessel could have the reploid era refinements at that point. Depends on how you tie the classic second arcade game's ending into things of showing his X3 design onwards.
>>737221361Willy has access to Bassnium and Evil Energy. I don't think he needs to wait on Light when he already has the resources to build a god machine.
>>737221479>His original body is robotThen that means Robots can be stronger than reploids. Classic Gods, we won!
>>737213434>Why did Wily create Zero with the capability of free will and autonomy?He actually didn't. Zero's free will is entirely a glitch from where Sigma punched him that one time. It's essentially the same as turning off your computer in the middle of an update in Inafune's own words.
>>737221558Honestly that's what happens when X and Zero are essentially ultimate machines, one for infinite growth and one designed specifically to try to counter that. Iris and Colonel were a failed attempt to make the ultimate soldier as one unit in their own successor project. Reploids in general were mass produced shitboxes by comparison. It took arguably until X7 for Copy Reploids to try to expand beyond X, and nothing remotely compares Axl's potential to X, instead you get villains acting like they're ancient relics that should be left in the past before they clean house yet again; it's more a miracle Axl can compare to them. You look at the SNES games, the horsepower of the Mavericks raised dramatically in 2 and 3 and they still didn't compare.Reploids were always theoretically about their intelligence and their "supposed" free will they didn't even actually have for a long while, but there's a reason why the works of the best roboticists ever still kicked everything's tin can asses to the curb. Power level logic would dictate that Reploids are just better than Robots, but it's all about how you're made and what you're made with.
>>737221149My problem with those clones is that they clearly take inspiration from Mega Man or Mega Man X, but its only ever surface level shit. I can understand trying to do your own thing, but I always hate when people say they're spiritual successors or they're better than the source material, but then you go end up playing them and they're nothing alike. Bersek Boy was a big disappointment because it looked like it was trying to be some middle ground movement schlop so you never actually do any real platforming since your abilities just let you fly over everything. 20/30XX is probably the closest to feeling like an X game, but the shit level design chunks and even worse boss fights make it a shit clone.
>>737221876Yeah, I get you. Fans of these things just want more of it and haven't had anything new in two decades besides a remake that sold like shitdue to its platform and a crappy gacha game. Classic fans at the very least have metric tons of fan games and rom hacks to deal if they go hunting for it, but X/Zero are at best inspiration for other stuff and never anything used as a basis.
>>737203520>people working on the X Collection for PS2/Gamecube wanted to retranslate and dub the script fixing problems like Zero's Sentsuizan>Capcom said no because they'd do it in Maverick Hunter X6
>>737222134shit i remember the rumors that they had done maverick hunter x style remixes of the snes games but held them back, or that they were gonna redub x4 but the official VAs never got contacted.
>>737221112Zero was holding back. He wouldn't have wanted to blow the shit out of X
>>737221876>movement schlopThey need to learn that less is more. I was fighting Junk Man in MM7, and the way I was dodging his attacks with jumps and slides felt like that scene from Air Man ga Taosenai where Mega Man and Air Man are fighting each other in the air.
>>737222469Zerofag copium.
>>737222134>>737222248That's all shit that The Mega Man Network claimed but was never verified. I was torches and pitchforks back then, but I'm skeptical about now. I do think there was some level of sabotage from Inafune's part, but the amount of supposed cut features honestly seems absurd.
>>737213148I would jump right in there.
>>737219527Sigma did come back in X8, even if Lumine orchestrated it. Lumine really isn't important to the point.
>>737222672Indie devs and fan games take Mega Man's simplicity for granted. They can't seem to build levels and fights around Mega Man's basic movement. It's simple and basic, but it's also incredibly tight and precise unlike any other platformer. Like a shmup given gravity.https://youtu.be/JKO5UjBCJVw?si=L0xG5OEXXXQKWNS6
>>737213148She's travels about, sight seeing and barhopping.
>>737221149>with lawyer friendly shit and jank.the whole point of 30XX is getting as close as possible to just giving people something X related.And what jank did you find? The gameplay and the movement are all tight as fuck, Ace even has autistic movement tech if you upgrade enough.
>>737196616>>737196731they deserved worse
>>737223681
>>737223681>>737224516
>>737223681>>737224516>>737224663Vile's pretty cool for a mentally ill Boba Fett cosplayer.I like how they were even more shameless about his design in MMX8.How did Capcom get away with it?
>>737198112He doesn't actually die though. The X timeline has a split that happens around X5/X6. In one Axl exists in X7 and later. In the other it goes to MMZ so he doesn't exist.
>>737222806We know that Zero had limiters in place but he runs everything he has on full blast even with those limiters.
>>737196616>robot built to be human doesn't get a gf>>737196731>robot built to be a killing machine develops feelings and ends up being more humanHOW
>>737221817X8 and CM are where you see new gens but even then Axl's more because he's hitting the quotas.
>>737204681>>737216363Gate's undoing wasn't the virus, he managed to stay in control where most didn't. His mistake was being a spiteful bitch to the very end, even when the hunters were willing to let him get off easily, which is also the reason why he revived Sigma. Japanese script makes it clearer, he's really petty in his death scene.
>>737226050Well for one 3 girls (or 2 if you diverge to MMZ) end up liking the guy. They didn't hint much at X in the games. Maybe one.
>>737196616>>737196731These two had the equal worse, imagine thinking your dying in the elf wars, except you actually didn't because people need you more, ones a ghost thing and the other a soilder fighting a copy of his friend.
>>737226147In the translation it's pretty obvious he's petty as fuck anyway. More so because of X and Zero being these undecipherable black boxes and he wanted to do the same but they told him no.
>>737225867The MMX7+ and MMZ timelines being different is only ever explicit in Marvel vs Capcom 3.I don't think that's a reliable source of canon, but it's not purely a fan theory like Zero killing off the Classic cast so I won't argue against it.However Axl still has to have existed in the MMZ timeline if only to justify Model A later down the line. Even if it's not called Model (A)xl, it has identical technology, and is literally figuratively him. There's no fucking way it isn't at least based on him.
>>737226343If you think about it they are the ultimate veterans, their powers even get recycled like 200 years later to fight ANOTHER war in ZX.God damm.
>>737226574Model A IS Axl, but his creation came under entirely diferent world context, as new gen technology only developed during the ZX era
>>737226574It got referenced in X DiVE and Teppen too that MMZ is a different timeline. It also doesn't help that MMZ is fluid with its timeline while CM was also stated to be a 22XX that's not the same as MMZ's. And before MvC3/DiVE/Teppen MMZ got moved to 23XX when it was originally 22XX. Model A is Model Albert but Inti stated that the design was referencing Axl but isn't him.
>>737227045>tfw no complete official artwork for Copy-X's unarmored form
>>737226732Reploids could already transform before ZX in MMZ so it's not new gen tech.
>>737227096But there is?
>>737226921Oh really? I did not know Teppen and X Dive also treated them as split timelines. Neither of those are exactly primary source games, but that's still interesting that it's consistent for crossover titles. Thank you for sharing.
>>737220409You're very lucky
>>737213017This is a girl
>>737227521Wouldn't say primary but Capcom was more involved with them than MvC3. Especially X DiVE, being made by a Capcom branch and all.
>>737221361The only thing copied from X is like the bare minimum but because of how much of a pain in the ass X and Zero are considered to be when repairing them they probably got parts replaced that were more modern so they'd technically be reploids too. But really it's the software that makes them more than what they are.
MEGA C-C-C-CUMBIA!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlyW7C4LNMY
>>737205015I mean there wouldn't be anything that establishes Zero and Iris until X4 when she gets saved. That's pretty when she starts liking him.
>>737213137call him a slur that always works
Reminder that Zero is built of robot master tier materials and technology and he is technically not a reploid but a robot master.
>>737226574>However Axl still has to have existed in the MMZ timeline if only to justify Model A later down the line. Even if it's not called Model (A)xl, it has identical technology, and is literally figuratively him. There's no fucking way it isn't at least based on him.The standard theory/explanation for why Axl and Zero timeline can't coexist is because the new generation reploids are immune to the virus thanks to the copy ability, thus invalidating the existence of the (whatever is was called) mother elf and cyber elfs, something along those lines.All timelines have the same characters represented in some way or another. Model A was clearly inspired by the concept of Axl sure, but its not necessarily a direct technological descendant.
>>737213137>Superior to Rock and Rush both whom could fly and traverse through interstellar space at these speeds. Outruns black holes on a regular basis.What the fuck is this site? A compilation of every time a developer spouted bullshit for whatever recorded with autistic obsession?
>>737230107Probably based off of Death Battle shit and other things. Like, absolute autism. It's the kind of methodology that saw a space wallpaper in a Battle Network game, assumed that MegaMan.EXE is traveling faster than the speed of light, and therefore he can escape a black hole and is a physical god thanks to Hub Mode that no other Mega Man can compare to. Power level wank is a nightmare.
>>737229720>mother elf and cyber elfsZero needs goes to sleep and the only hint that that happens is immediately after what happens in X6 only in Zero's ending
>>737203514Repliforce, they were a failed PR stunt and were on the verge of being decommissioned before Sky Lagoon anyway. But if the Maverick Hunters could go like 5 minutes without letting a traitor into their midsts it probably would’ve been fine.
>>737203861He told Sigma to fuck off and that he wouldn’t betray humanity, why he didn’t bother to tell anyone Sigma was around is anyone’s guess, but General’s refusal was why Sky Lagoon went down.
>>737204969That’s Zero’s memories of slaughtering “Garma’s unit” that initially discovered him I’m pretty sure,
>>737214508Axl isn’t in X1 anon
>>737219271It's what makes the destruction of X's body stand out given anybody had the capacity to do what Elpizo did just nobody in their right mind would. It's pretty clear the reploid during MMZ are naive and have little to no guidance and the ones with guidance are those listening to a megalomaniac and are merely puppets that have no problem being such.
THERE ARE STILL HEROES LEFT IN MAN
>>737219634>Omega's mech suit is armorIt isn't? We all know Zero's body is underneath it, all Weil basically did was build on top of it and make him bigger so it may as well be armor.>Dr. Light is T-posing as Cyber Elf XI never understood why they kept him around in X. Like being messages in the capsules is fine, but by X4 he was spouting current events as if he's actually there.
>>737196616he didn't deserve to become marvelslop capeshit
>>737234537You know exactly what I meant by armor.
>>737226574>However Axl still has to have existed in the MMZ timeline if only to justify Model A later down the line.No he doesn't. Inti has said countl4times that Model A is just a reference to Axl. The game makes it explicitly clear that it's meant to be Model Albert, not Model Axl. Why people still make this mistake is beyond me.
>>737234537He was actually there since X2, that game's armor was an upgraded version of X1's by him after X brought it back to a capsule.
>>737226147The Hunters letting him off easily after everything they did to him is probably the most insulting thing they could've done in that situation, just continuing to frame him as in the wrong for creating Reploids in the first place. It's like the cops taking your kids, killing them, and then telling you to not make anymore because you're only getting a slap on the wrist this time.
>>737196616>>737196731Mega Man X Corruption soon...I can almost feel like I am actually playing it...>*cough* cough*
In around 40 years, most of of the people that care will be mostly gone.And by some time before that happens nobody will care.>>737196616mid to late zoomers don't give a fuck about the Mega Man X series.And Capcom for some reason seems to prioritize boring ass classic Mega Man.
>>737237525Only one was killed by the Hunters, and Zero was willing to take the blame for that. The rest were his researcher colleagues and their management, one of which was Alia. Hunters went after him because of his virus, but you do have a point in that they're insulting for not recognizing that he didn't do much wrong before that and had his life ruined.
>>737221558Probably depends on the robot/reploid in particular. I'm pretty sure a robot master built by either Wily or Light would vastly outperform most mavericks outside of the AI category since their last creations X and Zero vastly outperform most things even centuries later.
>>737237691>The rest were his researcher colleagues and their management, one of which was Alia.Anon, that's still the Hunters.
>>737227045>Exact replica of X aside from his weapon copy system so he gets outfitted with elemental chips to compensate>Jobs to Zero in a bootleg body>Omega, Zero's original body with a different AI piloting it>Jobs to Zero in a bootleg bodyGoes to show AI is important, a manchild and a rampaging retard can't hope to beat heroes.
>>737238036Not really, Alia was said to have joined the Hunters some time after what happened during her time as a researcher, and the Hunters don't seem to be involved with other researchers either (Firefly in X5, mystery scientist in X6, though they work with the latter)
>>737238123>the Hunters don't seem to be involved with other researchersAnon...
>>737230107>What the fuck is this siteIt's ran by Sonicfags. That should tell you everything. Also...https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mike_Wazowski_(Kingdom_Hearts)
>>737238209My bad, I am retarded. Still, Pallette is part of the Hunters as a navigator, just like Douglas is specifically the Hunters' mechanic. The X6 researchers were never stated to be affiliated with them, and it's odd of X and Zero to start apologizing to Sheldon, but not recognize Yammark or Turtloid, for example. However, Zero did know about what happened with Alia and Wolfang, so you might be on to something.
>>737238408If they're part of the government then they're affiliated with the Hunters.
>>737218324Light was just centuries ahead of everyone else.
>>737219039Yeah he was told to be the defender of humanity, so he logically threw reploids under the bus as that was the easy way because he was made to think that's what the real X would do.
>>737219271>This idiot has, even on a technically, the only on screen kill of a Mega Man.>Not Wily, Not Sigma, Not The Bonnes, None of the Bad Guys from Battle Network/SF Timeline
>>737196616Nintendo hates him
>>737216772faggot
X's daughter owes me children.
Every single half decent western video game icon. Literally a diaspora
>>737207983Why didn't they just kill sigma mid sentence? Why is he allowed in the war room?
>stuck in seemingly infinite loop>doesn't even matter since the entity you're trying to thwart pretty much has everything all planned out even from the very start due to a suspiciously coincidental meeting with crackpot in the club mission>crackpot learns enmeshment from MC and his organization so the future events of Nexus classic happen no matter what
>>737204221>WAKU WAKU X, YOU LOOK STRONG>LETS FIGHT
>>737225980>>737239656>>737227269Megaman Jr. probably hit puberty and become edgy like copy X
>>737214146>>737214146Hope Capcom turned project RCL into "ZXC"
>>737218324>>737214301Reminder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5tL1AL-8aQ
>>737241371It's impressive that the models Ciel made didn't turn evil considering they were all made out of the actively malignant model W
>>737221249Funny that mega man x8 demake came out before it, and is just as fun.
>>737238853>>737219271He wasn't tho (my headcanon that Cial manipulate Elpizo via two cyber elf and stea original X souls)
>>737196616I had a vision for MMBN7 once>Lan's son Patch is a bully at school because his dad is a big shot and they're rich so he treats others poorly.>Realizes he's lonely. Even young teacher Cial or classmates Ciel depended which version, saw him having issues>Asks dad for his custom Navi.>Lan punishes Patch by giving X and Vile to his soon to be rival.>Patch gets depressed, feels betrayed etc.>Lan gives him Zero.exe instead. A virus turned navi in a reformatting experiment to try and solve the virus issues.>Patch and Zero.exe are both treated with mistrust. Other navis don't trust Zero because he was a virus.>Slowly learn to redeem themselves and save the world.>Megaman Battle Network Z (the 7 is inside the Z in the logo)
>>737214301>The entire problem all traces back to Wily.Then, by that logic, the problem also stems back from MegaMan and Dr. Light always going "Okay, Wily you've learned your lesson, I forgive you." No matter what he did or how many people got killed. It's the perfect representation of how 3% of society causes 80% of the problems. If they'd gotten rid of Wily, the problem would have been solved. But we live in a stupid society where you have to keep arresting someone 30+ times and keep letting them go.
>>737239290>remove Wapeach and annoyed himGood.
>>737241371>>737241435Ciel is what happens when you try your best to make the most out of the shit poker hand life has dealt you.>everything is dying>be born a genius>get told you must recreate robo Jesus so humanity can have hope>do exactly what you're told based on robo Jesus' lifeless husk>new robo Jesus is told he indeed the new robo Jesus>robo Jesus adapts to the situation no problem: kill all humans, simple really>anybody caught helping humans is put to death immediately>oh shit this isn't what we wanted>whatever shall we do genius kid>what do you mean you want to revive Zero the mass murderer and the reason we're in this dystopian shitscape?!>fine, bring back the red serial killer>hey the crimson psycho saved humanity but died, now who'll protect us?>you're going to take his and robo Jesus corpses and turn them into suits for us to wear so we can protect ourselves?>wow that's noble>you're also going to do the same to the head in a jar sociopath who almost cratered our planet and his rabies infused pitbull?>what's the worse that could happen!>queue ZX
>>737243395>>robo Jesus adapts to the situation no problem: kill all humans, simple reallyWhat he does the opposite, fuck everyone but humans.
>>737243472>If he was Sith lords, Hitler and Stalin etc
>>737241973Before or after you finished playing BN6?
>>737242452I can only partially blame Wily and only because I give some blame to Light for his ambitions and thinking leaving an untested robot ALONE and WITH A GUN without any sort of prerelease message or logs explaining who and what X was was any sort of a noble suggestion. At least with Zero the objective was clear, fuck up anything that looks like Mega Man, aka blue and with a gun; though the virus was admittedly extra.
>>737243850I finished BN6G almost decade ago on my GBA
>>737230704>why he didn’t bother to tell anyone Sigma was around is anyone’s guessIt was a very convincing disguise
>>737244002Then the idea's shit.
>>737201618The first victim of the robot apocalypse says what?
>>737230704Sigma gets a human-like government, kinda like the EU, attribute blame responsibility on him.
>>737243395Ciel didn't do the moral training Light did for X.
>>737244781The idea actually 106 (above average IQ)
>>737243883tbf the recorded messages ended up becoming an AI instead. The virus was suppose to cripple X when Zero made contact but instead it infected Sigma who was arguably Cain's best and his closest copy to X.
>>737245039Your idea is so shit that it killed the thread
>>737245039-106 actually.
>>737246231Nah, Axl poster did
>>737246289*106+
>>737246289>>737246429That equals -11236
>>737196616I forgot about the lore for long time now please summary up for me /v/
>>737246543>>737208795
>>737196616So anyone know what happen to og megaman
>>737241973>>737246429>Z = 7Holy kino
>>737246645The answer is not letting your friend go to sleep.
>>737246786Well either he shuts himself down or time travel hijinks he gets kidnapped by past Wily.
>>737246786Died of old
>>737247153>died without trainingPathetic.
>>737247318Time comes for us all
>>737213316>Zero can't refuse>does and even got rid of the problemKennedy could never.
>>737247318He's a robot. What's he supposed to train? How's he supposed to train? What, is gonna revert his OS to Windoes 95 while having 1800 Chrome tabs open to simulate fighting with weighted training clothes?
>>737248283>Windoes 95Windoes what Mac doesn't.
>>737248283Advanced AI upgrade
>>737248053Four Mega Link Adventure (GameCube U)
>>737249563You really want that?
>>737246786I like to think the Light capsule is actually Rock pulling a wizard of Oz from some secret lab
He deserved it when 3/4 of his games are shit.>>737196731He did not deserve to get the good half of one of X's games and four good games for himself.
>>737251542Mighty No 9 have potential.
>>737251778Mighty Gunvolt Burst is actual MN9 and it's good.
>>737251994MGB is just MN9 after the developer got told that they're shit at 3d.
>>737252492>Tell 2D developers that they HAVE to make a 2D game with 3D graphics on a shit engine and no budget because "fuck you I say so.">It sucks.>They try again with an engine and art style they're comfortable with.>It's great.>WOOOOOW THIS IS THE DEVS' FAULT
>>737246786He gets converted into Quint and gets sent back in time where he is then killed by present day Mega Man on a space station.
>>737252637Only if you think Mega Man is a single, linear timeline, which Command Mission and Z3 pretty much confirm isn't the case.
>>737252753I would say that the classic series games have a connected story and that’s what happens in the classic GB games.
>>737252634For the record they've made shit 2d too that an ex employee mentioned. They can do only one thing and they're good. But lately that hasn't been the case.
>>737252492>>737251994Black Wukong and Steller Blade has proven to be well-made 3D Asian indie games without kickscam. Why Japanese dev so incomplete?
>X is a massive pacifist>X5 turns him into a fucking schizo >NO YOU GO BACK TO THE BASEThe fight against X in X5 is really funny to me.
>>737252939The series have a connect story within themselves. MMZ tried making the whole one timeline thing that ends up being a mess.
>>737253058They had to introduce a whole character that they even put in the intro cinematic that gets like zero screen time prior to that cutscene just to try and justify X doing that.
>>737253058I like what X6 does with him. Still a pacifist but doing what he has to do and taking over Zero's role, until X7 just dog walks it all back in an attempt to have Axl replace X.
>>737253105The Mega Man gameboy games are just as much part of the classic series as Mega Man Xtreme is to the X series.Are you actually trying to argue that there isn’t continuity between the games set in the same series.
>>737252939If you think a future Mega Man coming back to the past and dying means Rock must do the same no matter what, you're none too bright. Fuck, World 5 outright tells you not to worry about it with its platoon of MMK clones in the stage backgrounds.
>>737253258Bro, you might actually be retarded.You're definitely the kind of person who think Classic *has* to lead into X and Light is the cause of the world's problems.
>>737253258>The series have a connect story within themselvesRead nigga, read.
After X2 it became the Zero Show with special guest MegaMan. Later games seemed like it was purposefully deconstructing the MM legacy to make Zero shine kinda like Chrono Cross
>>737253058Ciel also massive pacifist too
>>737253185X7 ignores X6 but X8 and CM both ignore X7 outside of Axl existing. I'm good with just pretending 7 isn't canon.
>>737253462I don’t think that at all I just don’t see why you keep bringing up MMZ when I’m talking about classic.
>>737253552More than one person is talking to you. I only mentioned it once, in the context of how multiple series have confirmed that time isn't linear in Mega Man.
>>737253537>X7 ignores X6>X8 and CM both ignore X7Except they don't.
>>737252637>>737221361A group of scientists found Roll and Proto's remains and redesigned them into Berkana and Gareth.
>>737253537X6-X8 are canon, anon
>>737253680X7 retcons X's arc from the PS1 games, handwaves the colony drop holocaust, ignores the Sigma degredation subplot, etc.X8 ignores that X7 ignored Sigma's degredation and continues that subplot, sticks X back on the trajectory from X4-X6, and ignores Axl's existing backstory. CM is consistent with X8 and takes place further in the future, with X moving into a leadership role.X7 is nonsense when placed in the context of its three adjacent games, while all three are consistent with each other.
>>737253885>"Hey, one of these games is fucking stupid, I prefer to pretend it isn't canon.">"[Games you didn't say are noncanon] are canon, anon."Mega Man threads are a lightning rod for /v/'s best and brightest.
>>737253680X8 kinda does. X8 X pretty much takes off from where X6's character development for him happened.
>>737253317No, you see, Dr. Wily and his robots would never lie. Mega Man is actually grimdark, you see.
>>737253932>X7 retcons X's arc from the PS1 gamesExcept it doesn't. All X7 does was take place time after the colony drop but the Earth's still polluted. Sigma degrading in X6 was just his zombie form being brought back suddenly.X8 Sigma degrades because he couldn't get a better body after getting blasted again, X isn't going that he's tired of shit like in part of X7 because time had passed between X6-7 than from 7-8. X7 didn't even give Axl much of a backstory in the first place other than Red Alert.
>>737253537X7 doesn't ignore X6, it directly mentions the restoration efforts in both the game itself and its Japan-only prequel story. However, X7's world and main character portrayals differ heavily from X5-X6. X8 does seem to contradict X7 to some extent when considering X8's take on Axl's origins differing from X7's prequel story, but X8 has aspects that contradict preceding entries in general.>>737253932X6 had Sigma only return as part of Gate's plans, while X8 has Sigma orchestrate a takeover of the New Generation Reploids/Jakob project by himself, though it's left unclear how much control he had over it during the game. X8's X also doesn't match X6's, as he is more aggressive and mostly un-pacifistic, which matches the writing in CM and Maverick Hunter X, while X6 X matches some of X5's.
>>737199393>He believed Mephiles when the latter claimed Sonic was the Iblis TriggerTo be fair, Sonic WAS the Iblis Trigger.Mephiles simply lied about the correct way to deal with the Iblis Trigger. It needs to be kept safe, not destroyed.
>>737254449>X8's X also doesn't match X6's, as he is more aggressive and mostly un-pacifistic, which matches the writing in CM and Maverick Hunter X, while X6 X matches some of X5's.In that regard X5 was 21XX, X6 was a few months after X5, X8 is some time in 21XX, and CM is 22XX. So there is some time passage in the X series.
>>737254449>No, see, the fact that X6 and X8 progress the subplot running through the entire series of Sigma slowly becoming less of a person as the virus keeps mutating? NOT continuity. Because X6 said GATE did the bad guy things (please ignore the implication that he was corrupted and manipulated) and X8 says Sigma did it (before the big twist).Like I said, these threads are full of /v/'s brightest. Sigma progressively deteriorates as an individual across the series except for X7, where he's acting like he did in the early games for no real reason. By X5 he's more a tool for the remnant of Dr. Wily than an individual. By X6 he has become an incoherent zombie. By X8 he's a scapegoat, literally taking the image of Satan to parallel his role in the story. X7 missed the memo and just wrote him like some dude. It's a weird break in subplot continuity than X8 ignores.
>>737254321Come on, man. X7 was a rushed piece of shit. That's the real answer. Turning yourself into knots to justify characters ping-ponging back and forth instead of just going "Yeah that one's weird" is silly.
>>737254984>By X5 he's more a tool for the remnantHe's partnered with Wily rather than a tool. He wants to ice X, meets Wily, they partner up. Sigma infects Zero with Wily's virus, Sigma gets a new fancy body instead of being a floating virus so he can kill X.
>>737255161>>737254984X7 reimagine in RE engine and improve gameplay?
>>737255161There isn't much knots you have to put yourself into with the setting it gives you. As gameplay it's shit but the story isn't the fucked up part other than X justifiably getting tired of things not improving even after all the hunting. X not being playable from the beginning was shit regardless.
>>737254984Gate wasn't manipulated, there's no implication of that being the case. Influenced by Zero's DNA, possibly, but both attempting to restore Sigma and his reasoning for what he does are his, and line up with how he's described pre-game events in the cutscene where Alia talks about her past. There's also nothing in X5 implying Sigma is Wily's tool, and if talking about Wily, X6 has Isoc be used to parallel X2 to explain Zero's return, but also sets up a confrontation with X that never happens. Neither X7 nor X8 acknowledge Wily at all, and X8 has a line about Sigma trying to make a virus out of Zero on top of that.>>737255161That doesn't explain anything, many of the X games were rushed, but only X7 has its odd portrayal of X and the implication of Axl having a relation to X.
>>737253462>Classic *has* to lead into X and Light is the cause of the world's problems.Light would still be the source of the world's problems in a world where he only created X and Classic events never occurred. Everything goes back to X. According to Cain's journal, mankind was perfectly fine with dumb robots they had at the time.
>>737255236Yeah, he's being used. He's "partnering" with Wily as much as General would have been "partnering" with Sigma in 4 if he was stupid enough to accept it. He's debasing himself to get the most surface level version of what he wants, but actually is just carrying out Wily's will.That's literally the progression. Sigma was a military leader and tactical genius in X1. He comes back in X2 as the virus and is mostly running on the backup forces, with the X Hunters posing the bulk of the threat as this isn't as strong as the initial rebellion. By 3 he's using Doppler but gets screwed in the end. By 4 he's *failing* to manipulate others in charge and preying on underlings and false flagging. By 5 HE'S the one being played. By 6, he's a corruptive tool. By 8, he's nothing more than the boogeyman, an excuse to deflect culpability.
>>737254662Except CM wasn't part of MMX canonical lore
Eat the squirrel
All im getting is there was at least one nameless hero in the team keeping track of the writting in between rushjobs and soft-reboots
>>737255585>Gate wasn't manipulated, there's no implication of that being the case.I mean aside from the glowing red eyes and evil aura and him being driven insane by it, yeah.>Influenced by Zero's DNA, possiblyYes. Being influenced by Zero's DNA soul, which contains the Zero virus, from a chunk of the Eurasia, which was literally made by combining the Sigma virus with the Colony virus. They even directly say in the game that it's X5's Zero virus, mutated further into the Nightmare.That's literally the Sigma virus per X5.>but both attempting to restore Sigma and his reasoning for what he does are his, and line up with how he's described pre-game events in the cutscene where Alia talks about her past.THAT'S WHAT BEING MANIPULATED MEANS.MANIPULATION ISNT BRAINWASHING. IT'S INFLUENCING YOUR DECISIONS IN A NEFARIOUS WAY. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.This isn't complicated!
>>737255798>He's "partnering" with Wily as much as General would have been "partnering" with Sigma in 4Except that's not even close. All Wily wanted is Zero getting virused.Sigma just wants to kill X and he's willing to let Zero do it and everything else that happens was Sigma's planning. In X4 he still ends up manipulating if the false flag ended up happening.
>>737201149People will often talk about Tetsuwan Atom as Mega Man's inspiration but in reality there's a variety of different mecha/tokusatsu influences for the various series. Casshan is one of them and that franchise can get quite dark.
>>737256012CM isn't part of the numbers story since it's after them but it's still part of the lore.
>>737220858>People still acting like this is MMZ concept art in 2026This is fan art by HI-GO, it's not made by the MMZ artist
>>737256138Basically, yeah, a couple diehards were keeping things straight most of the time and even then they weren't flawless and the games were bad at conveying plot points to begin with. X7's the one that came out the most rushed and broken and, unsurprisingly, missed a bunch of fine details on the continuing story. It's not the end of the world, it's just very obvious how messy that games development was even compared to the others.BN and SF had similar issues with their insane release schedule where the games would "forget" niche but important world building details between games because the next project was already starting up before the first fully wrapped. It's why Mr. Match's arc is a bit weird with how much Lan remembers per game, and why SF3 assumes a couple character interactions happened in SF2 that didn't.
>>737256245>My boy isn't washed!He got cucked, anon. His control slipped further each game. He got to act big but he was just Wily's bitch in 5.
>>737256378Did you miss the part where we both mentioned its fan art? I pulled that image directly from his Pixiv account.
>>737256512We know Sigma gets washed but that wasn't the case in 5.
>>737256229>Yes. Being influenced by Zero's DNA soulNot stated at any point. Perfect Memories even goes as far as to state that he has done enough research on his own to notice similarities between Zero's DNA and Sigma's. >that it's X5's Zero virus, mutated further into the Nightmare.Alia states that it's an artificially made virus, and that its purpose is to put Reploids under control. >IT'S INFLUENCING YOUR DECISIONS IN A NEFARIOUS WAYGate states that he brought back Sigma and gives his personal reason for doing so, and it backfires. There's no implication of this being Sigma's plan.>>737256430Name these diehards, then, or how X7's development influenced its story.
>>737256378This is canon design, crapom are lazy snob.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVJZLmHjjU0
>>737258043Fan design and it was Inti that was lazy with the omega design.
>>737256290Shantae is shitty clone compared to this classic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDJtIjkExGE
>>737253529She can fight now, equipping Model Z
>>737220554This is the manga where the ultimate armor makes him go nuts right.
>>737253529Yeah but Ciel sucks and Cial blows.
>>737258191Doesn't change the fact it lore accurate original Zero.
>>737196616Inafune's obsession with killing and replacing his mentor's more famous character killed this franchise. At least he let X have Maverick Hunter before he left...
>>737259125>Iga's obsession with Alucard canceled games, killing and replacing the Belmont's more famous character killed this franchise. At least he let have Judgment spin off before he left...
>>737259018>no global warEven X-san agree.
>>737196616>it's kyover
>>737196616Kingdom Heart is Disney goyslopMinecraft/Robolox is complete shitCall of Duty/Fortnite is even shitter
>>737257037The only real effect with development was the developers being complete newbies to 3D.
>>737257037>>737263102I know X7 dev are use smaller 3D project like breath of fire.
Don't let the thread die yet!
Bump.
>>737198925You literally can't. funny thing is Capcom never intended it, but they somehow created the best friendship in video games
>>737221558X isn't a reploid either, so...
>>737221558X is a robot and Sigma theorizes Zero was built from the same robotic theory as him (by how the Z-Buster was compatible with him in X1).Everything until maybe the Zero series has been derived from X (and in X6, from Zero).It isn't that robots are better. It's that those two robots were made by the best scientists the world had in centuries. We basically only get comparable stuff with X7 as Axl heralds the New Generation Reploids.
>>737202080>>737210019>>737201524I do support their games
>>737267876I'm struggling to name other vidya friendships. There's Zeke and Cole from Infamous, but Zeke was a piece of shit in that relationship.
>>737267876The perfect frienship dynamic is battle-ready pacifist + self-aware murder machine
Wasn't the timeline split between X and battle network decided by whether light gets pussy or not?
>>737269151No. The deciding factor is much earlier as you get either Thomas Light or Tadashi Hikari. They're effectively two different people.
>>737268268All new gens are are reploids that can transform to better adapt. Later force metal starts getting researched when that meteor fell.
>>737269151Battle Network advanced too much in one direction for that. Hell, the Gear thing system Wily developed to overload robots ''so any robot could be a hero'' was developed back when they were young adults.Meaning focusing on the internet had to happen even earlier than that
>>737269137Good morning schzio troon
