What went wrong?
Bungie.
>>737201734Nothing, its kino. Unironically and actually git gud souls shitter.
>Game doesn't pander to brown n bloom call of duty casuals>Newfags on /v/ collectively lose their shit for like two months straight
>>737202306Marathon caters to casuals: it literally just aims for you with a controller aim assist. People used to have to actually AIM TOWARDS the character they wanted to shoot and bring up the ADS for it to start snapping to a character you wanted to shoot.
>>737202403>A single feature standard in every shooter for the last 20 years overshadows literally every other aspect of the gameReaching much?
>>737202403uhm.... you're not supposed to critique bungie's best in class gunplay...
>>737202524>A single feature standard in every shooter for the last 20 years overshadows literally every other aspect of the gameYes. Not to mention slow ass movement game is made for gamer dads and casuals who can't into movement and aiming. CoD has it beat.
>>737201734meme company that is like 90% trannymeme genre
>>737202306brown and bloom hasn't been a thing for over a decade unc
>>737202580>Gunplay.>Gun goes pew pew pew isn't gunplay.>You literally don't even have to fight against recoil.lol skip me with that shit.
>>737202621High mobility is more casual which is why its more common, panders to adderall junkies who don't have to worry about positioning
>>737201734This game probably has the most hilariously retarded Art design I've ever seen in a video game.
I had fun and I got a bunch of cute fanart of it, double win.
>>737201734Extraction Shooter fans are pretty satisfied with what they have as far as I know.
>>737202830Positioning will always matter shitters like you and console players cant handle high movement which is why arena shooters are the peak of skill
>>737201734Dire Marsh fucking blowsThere's probably some big problems with Cryo too but I don't think most people even get to those because Dire Marsh is just so fucking ass it turns everyone away
>>737202524I couldn't get past the tutorial in Remnant 2 because this was so bad you'd be aiming a quarter screen away but bring up ironsights and it'd snap to their head. I want to aim, not play a left trigger, right trigger rhythm game. Not all aim assist are the same, there are levels of acceptable and then too far.
>>737203184Yeah and Marathon's is barely noticeable, at least on mkb, never played with a controller so can't comment on that
Dunno. My one bro likes it but he absolutely loves extraction shooters. Can't be bothered to boot up nightreign with me though the faggot.
>>737201734Game is too hard for normies
i liked the goofy artstyle more before they panic started replacing a lot of it due to a huge chunk of it being found out as plagiarized
>>737201734they made a completely unrelated game and decided to call it marathon
>>737202306
>>737201934I'm fucking trying, man.
>>737203843>They made a completely unrelated game and decided to call it Mario
>>737204116What the hell are they even trying to do?Plus, that engine sure as hell has passed the new euro 7 regulations, it surely doesn't pollute shit.
>>737205249>What the hell are they even trying to do?They are obviously just having fun.
Why did it flop?
>>737202580>literally every paid shill says the gunplay is goodThe guns have zero recoil, huge magazines and fat ass aim assist snapping ontop of fucking thermal scopes. It is the sloppiest of dog shit. Hunt is leagues ahead when it comes to gunplay. Literally everything feels good to shoot in hunt.
how the fuck do you make a game look worse than cruelty squad.even worse how do you do it with 300 billion dollars
>>737205520>The guns have zero recoil, huge magazines"Never played the game" award.
Extraction shooter fatigue
>>737205567>how the fuck do you make a game look worse than cruelty squad.You don't. And doesn't.>>737205652Then don't play them. How can you have fatigue for a genre of media? Just don't consume it if you don't like it.
>>737202948I wish it was more popular so we'd get more cute Vandal art.
>>737201734personally, >like the game aesthetic, lore, visuals, gameplay in theory >get gaped because enemy I ran into has significantly better gear, a better computer, or most likely, was simply much better at fps games>eventually get tired of losing all my gear, don't feel like I can progress and get anything out of games once most of the (achievable) missions are done>friends play less and less for similar reasons>don't feel like queuing up with randoms who may or may not be good, may or may not have or use a mic>go back to other games still played enough to get my money's worth, but eh, couldn't do it longterm.
>>737205621you are right. i didnt crutch on the faggot pistol and shotty. i just knife your dumb ass.
>>737205196>Mario kart: characters and setting is easily recognizable as being from the mario universe>nuM*rathon: completely different game
>>737201734I hate the art style so much its hideous
Turning it into a hero shooter.Id have probably really liked this game if it leaned into actual customization where your kit and build is determined by your pickups, and death means potentially forcing you to try a new play style, since you may have lost the items that allow your Tank/Healer/DPS buildThen the customization could have been a lot more interesting in turn, by letting you truly customize your runner instead of everybody being a reskinned version of the same few player models. I'd have really enjoyed making my own android from scratch with a system similar to Destiny. Also it should have been free.
>>737205831>The game about scavenging the desolate colony on Tau Ceti 4 and the UESC Marathon to figure out what happened has nothing to do with Marathon
>>737205950>Turning it into a hero shooter.It's not a hero shooter, it's an extraction shooter
>>737202403>Marathon caters to casuals Stopped reading there. You’re retarded.
>>737205621>H-AR is a literal brick with recoil out the ass.>Anything that fires high ROF might as well spray all over the place.It's most noticeable on MKB, in terms of console and controller retards none of it matters, they'll either hit 90% of their shots in their intended range cone, or then they won't hit shit if they ever have to shoot anywhere near the end of the aim assist range. In comparison i've found that the controller retards almost exclusively lose their engagements going forward from 60m, either due to using a wrong type of weapon for the job, or then they're using a sniper which once again has aim assist out the ass.
>>737205950>Id have probably really liked this game if it leaned into actual customization where your kit and build is determined by your pickups, and death means potentially forcing you to try a new play style, since you may have lost the items that allow your Tank/Healer/DPS buildI'm glad that someone else gets it.
Damn..
I miss when social media didn't make literally everything performative. Enjoy your hobby or don't, you're not special and no one cares about your opinion
>>737205997Okay whatever
>>737205980Correct. Glad you could finally see the light
>>737205029Jesus Christ… honestly, that team deserved the bag lel
>>737201734They spent more time larpimg about playing than actually playing
Fun game, got more time out of it than most games I buy these days
>>737206052these can't be real kekI know this game has become an avatar for american leftism, but jfc
>>737206052>not crap>not a cash grabKEK
>>737203178Dire marsh is genuinely such ass. Every mission there requires you to traverse the entire map twice, and there's so much open space to get caught in. It's so easy for people to get the drop on you if you're trying to actively accomplish something, and the exfils are super exposed. It's so high risk that most people either go in kitted as fuck to camp and gank, or they go in with nothing to avoid the risk. The imbalance means you're either getting pissed on by sweats because you came with a free kit, or automatically losing because you came kitted and got stuck with sponsored kit players. I like this game but i hate dire marsh. At least in perimeter everybody is running sponsored and it's always low stakes and relaxed, and in outpost people at least bring a semi decent kit so there's some functionality.
>>737206052>clear track record of Bungie's blatant cash grabbing with Destiny 2>"not a cash grab"You cannot be serious. And Sony got giga scammed for BILLIONS by them you better believe they're going to milk Bungie dry
>Hyper punishing extraction shooter with a wacky art style>cash grablol
glad this shit flopped
>>737201734>What went wrong?Players who were helped and protected with SBMM systems in other games, suddenly realized, that they suck at video games. So they got upset and left, scared off others with their crying.
>>737201734>One made by nerds who read Le morte d'arthur, ancient myths, knew enough science to come up with story about parallel timelines, AI experiencing rampancy, and alien political and reproductive systems being tied with their cybernetics>Other game is made by people who've only watched Marvel movies, and the most of their cultural take away comes from internet memes, makes a game where you rob the ruins of a destroyed colony as a pseudo debt slave (because fuck capitalism! #8750) and everyone is trying to kill each other to take the most they can.Gee anon, I wonder what the difference could be.
Remember to report avatarfags
>>737211449>no platinum trophyWeak, bro.
Why are you here defending the game instead of playing it
>>737211619We don't do PvE stuff, we only kill other players, nothing else matters
>>737211610What is Marvel like about the new marathon ?There's lots of things wrong with it but the story and the lore is written quite wellhttps://tauceti.gg/codex
>>737211763The platinum trophy is just for reaching level 100 while playing normally. You gotta play more.
>>737201734People are retarded, game is too based for this current generation.
>>737201734No lineal single-player campaign for $19.99
>>737204116Real post-apocalyptic vibe here
>>737201734Investor and shareholder's gachashit. I can't wait for more Sony liveservice to crash and burn because it's fucking funny.
>>737211842>The platinum trophy is just for reaching level 100 while playing normally.No, you have to kill 28 UESC bot generals. We don't touch PvE, we fully skip it. Even when we take damage from bots, we just keep running and then heal.
>>737201734I get what they are going for with Marathon's art style, but it was legitimately too edgy and incoherent for normal people. The clashing of corporate, sterile, functional assets with natural environments was obviously intended, but your average person doesn't like looking at things and feeling sick as a result. It's not an art style you can give a AAAA++ multiplayer extraction shooter with a budget of 200-400,000,000 USD and expect to make a return.If Marathon were a weird indie shooter with a more direct story not doled out in snippets between agonising, tryhard PvP matches, it would be better received. Normal people are extremely uncritical as long as what they are looking at or consuming feels smooth, slick and coherent, even if it's ghastly dogshit (Fallout TV show, for instance).
>>737202948>cute
>>737211970This>any money>half the game halo was, thirty years laterFuck marathon. Looks kinda fun, but why does it not have a fucking real game, just online? Sony is retarded for not literally suing these people for wasting their money, I would not let a single employee leave without filing for bankruptcy
>>737212245Also, anecdotally, I have to assume the budget marketing for Marathon was huge. I live in Australia and I saw billboards, bus ads, and TV ads for it. There were ads in every phone application as well. My wife got an ad for Marathon while watching videos about how to brush a cat's teeth properly of all things and she said it made her sick and she hated it.
>>737201734Nothing>>737201934spbp
>>737201734>based on a Mac game only played by literal faggots (Mac owners)>obvious shill campaign>stolen art (from a troon, no less)Gee, I wonder why people recoiled.
>>737212594You forgot that Nu-Bungie is Ubisoft levels of garbage
>>737212636Bungie's always been trash. Myth 1 and 2 were flukes.
Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.Marathon: 36227Destiny 2: 53630
Nothing>>737209072Skill issue
>>737209072>Every mission there requires you to traverse the entire map twice,Missions don't matter, until enemy runners are dead>>737212771Good work, i like you
>>737203843Well they couldn't call it Halo, but still needed to tie it to an existing IP for marketing purposes
>>737203521"huge chunk" is a stretch, the decals on containers and some buildings had some artists work on it who makes art in a similar style, afaik they got them compensated and removed it
>>737201734>What went wrong?Most people don't like extraction shooters, it's really that simple, and the ones that are sweaty enough to like them are already playing tarkov or arc raiders for a pve one.
>>737212230So this retard was a pedophile all alone?It all makes sense now.
>>737205249Beyblades 3rd world niggas can have fun like this since there is no Karens to stop emWhites used to be able to do stuff like this too back in the 80s-90s
>Its been a little over a month>its over.
>>737212891Whether the other teams are dead or not doesn't have any impact on how boring it is sprinting between Bio Research and Quarantine a half dozen times
>>737209072>It's so easy for people to get the drop on you if you're trying to actively accomplish something,It sure is easy to get the drop on clueless retards that run around the map, yes
>>737209072I dont think I ever just got shot in the openit's always when youre approaching poi's
>>737203843You're right, the series should be called Durandal considering you only spent part of your time on the Marathon in the first game and that's it
>>737202403Marathon is 100% not casual. It's up there with Tarkov in brutality. Faggot.
>>737202403>it literally just aims for you with a controller aim assistsounds like your fault for being a console peasant
>>737205029
>>737201734All of the loading screens look like MILLION DOLLAR EXTREME PRESENTS: MARATHONSome of the devs on the art team definitely paid $250k for a full ride through Rhode Island School of Design. It's so fucking Sam Hyde-coded.
>>737202816Have you even played Marathon? You talk shit.>>737202672Arc Raiders is the faggot and tranny game though.>>737203843It's a direct sequel to the og story you faggot.>>737210774Cash grab? Also COD looks way worse by far in artsyle. It looks like total low poly slop with super bright colours.
>>737213296The only contracts that have you really run between Bio research and Quarantine twice are Co-Evolution
Bungie rape victims deserve everything they get
>>737214135Only retards buy skins.Also low iq COD players pay 15 for skins, cope.Arc Raiders also has trans style shit to buy.
>>737214386You lost. Marathon is a massive failure. No matter how much you shill this slop, it won't change a thing
>>737214135Re-Skins in Marathon are free
>>737213808There's moths in mde?
>>737214469I'm not trans so i don't play Arc Raiders with it's tranny character creator with a trans robot called Lance, cope.I'd rather play a none faggotry game because you will never be a real woman.Try not to kill your self play tranny raiders or cod though.
>>737214469>ARC got BAFTA award for best multiplayer gameThat pretty much says all that needs to be said about Marathon. Did not even make it into nominated category.
>>737214135Go play tranny raiders.Sneed faggot.
>>737214386>Only retards buy skinsActually, only cheaters buy skins. Think about it, why don't these companies ever hit cheaters? Because they're the ones the most invested in the game.
>I'm not trans so i don't play Arc Raiders with it's tranny character creator with a trans robot called Lance, cope.
>>737214778you can find trannies everywhere bud
>>737206052>Not crapLooks like shit and the gameplay was shit, so it's shit.
>>737214546Marathon is a tranny game you dumb fuck. They literally stole their artstyle from a troon KEK
>>737214778>ableist slurs>literally shaking>almost crying.
>>737213662SHEEVER!
>>737214778>28 fucking viewsWhy are you stalking tranny twitters
>>737214919you mean that one tiny poster? oh
>>737213519
I realised why Marathon is so addictive, it's the unknown variance in matches.So many times, I'll just go in with a free kit to finish off some quest with a trio, and suddenly,>guy has a locked room key>alright well we'll do that first>THERE'S A TEAM HERE ALREADY>I can hear another team coming>Let's go to this area>Quick do the boss>Oh shit the boss dropped a gold>Quick mark the exfil>Who downed him? It's a fucking rook he's in the corner!>Wait we can still do this room here and->DON'T BE GREEDY GO GO>Some team already activated the exfil>They're fucking purple shields>We have to go final exfil>there's two fucking rooks there put them on prox chat>alright boys stay cool we're all going in>one just fucking stabbed me>//RUN COMPLETEThat's a literal match that happens time to time. And in some of those points, the adrenaline is ridiculous.That variance, not knowing what's going to pop up next and how you'll benefit, is stupidly addictive.
>>737215131Idk anon. That addiction induction mechanism did not work on me. Infact, it had the opposite effect - i stopped playing the game.
>>737213519>>737215043
Bungie... fent reactors going into shutdown... i..... can't....... breathe.......
>>737215018Nope, whole artstyle. They even fucking copypasted loss that the artist hid in their designs
>>737215303
>>737215131>I realised why Marathon is so addictivemight wanna let the other 80% of the players that left that marathon is addictive.
>>737214919>kekCommit sudoku.
I have died to sniper rifles more times in the free kit queue than I ever have in any of the matches where people could actually bring sniper rifles
>>737215730Likely hitting the arms lockers in Bio-Research / Algae Pools early.
>>737201734DEI
Ugliest character designs of all time
>>737215428
I want the game to do Marathon 1 level remakes with Rook as the main character and he'll say stupid shit like,>You're a big alien. Pfhor you
>>737215859Don't you post these same images every thread
>>737215780Meanwhile every time I hit those they're full of overruns, pistols and maybe a retaliator if I'm luckyI end up gearing up off UESC more than arms lockers
>>737205705>You don't.
They were right...I am having a blast!
>>737215859I disagree
I saw someone describing this as the Marathon devs constantly refreshing their subreddit to flatten out any minor inconvenience before it becomes a news story on Twitter. I guess it's good that they are fixing some pain points quickly (more than what they can say they've done for Destiny, lol), but it kind of feels like they are just doing this because they have nothing else to give players and staunch the bleeding. The game has fuckall content for the next few months. The season 2 shit is not gonna move the needle much, if at all
>nobody in the AAA space making single player focused FPSs outside of id and Machine Games>uh>let's make an extraction shooter those have never had mainstream popularity but I bet we'll be the ones to make it workThe fact that they didn't even try to retain Seth Penisinson and he immediately went off to do some shit for Subnautica should've been the threshold moment that nothing worthwhile was going to come out of this, not even an interesting story. That the most interesting thing about the game was the heinous plagarism case that got exposed partially because the original artist drew fucking loss.jpg into the art that was copied as-is into the game is just a bizarre digestif to the whole affair.
>>737215972I've rarely seen them give pistols or overrun. Repeaters, Hardline, Conquest and the occasional V66 are more common.
>>737216306>The game has fuckall content for the next few months. The season 2 shit is not gonna move the needle much, if at allWhy aren't they crunching for their lives right now?
>>737216306>they are just doing this because they have nothing else to give playersFixed.>staunch bleedingLOL. LLAMA.>The game has fuckall content for the next few monthsIt has just enough, unless PvP is all you can think and play.
>>737216807phoneposting niggerfaggot
>>737216516>crunchingIt took bungie 300 devs over 5 years to shit out what's essentially an extraction shooter overhaul mod for destiny with 4 maps and 7 characters. Their whole development pipeline is fucked and no amount of crunching will help with that.
I don't get PvE. The endgame is always PvP. What's the fun in killing dumb bots?
>>737215496Because most gamers want predictable games. That's why Arc Raiders succeeded to make this game mainstream friendly. SBMM and especially ABMM ensure very predictable matches so people can just do what they set off to do mostly undisturbed. Hence the immense amount of sperging out when you actually do decide to PvP for once in a low aggression lobby.This genre can only ever be mainstream friendly if you remove most of the stuff that make it unique and coddle your players to keep their egos intact.
Fire all the diversity hires, publicly announce you're ending all the liberal initiatives, apologize to the chuds. Literally. That's all you can do to save this shit. Nobody wants to support gender confused weirdos sneaking their communist shit into games.
>>737216860Truth hurts, doesnt it, animetard. Cope.
>>737217073games simply shittarkov managed to retain its players for more than two weeks and thats the jankiest piece of shit that is extremely punishingfuck tarkov probably has more players at this point of time
>>737217073>aim bot>rampant cheating>bullet magnetism>sound design that forces PvP>fucked up balance>PvP where skill does not counterplay beefed-up kitSo, why play such a game?
>>737217192leftist, nigger or indian which is it
>>737217213Tarkov did not go full retard with game design and forcing PvP. They also enabled PvE, and enabled optional wipes.Devs went full retard with Marathon.
>>737217409Neither of those. But you - you are a fucktarded weeb, thus you should just fucking kill yourself - you will never be a human.
>>737217558so jewish zionist got it
>>737217213Tarkov was first to the market, is basically unrivalled in the tacticool gun autism niche and doesn't try to target the awkward middle ground between hardcore that Marathon is trying to find it's footing in.Tarkov goes the opposite direction and doubles down on the unpredictability by randomly Matchmaking you with teams with 1 to 5 players. And it's sandbox is so big that you truly never know what will happen in a game. You can have low gear solos just trying to loot or complete quests and teams of fully kitted chads looking for fights in the same lobby. That's exciting and makes every raid feel like hitting the lever of a slot machine. But the Devs removed a large part of this appeal by budging and adding a PvE mode.Marathon just has one outcome and that is forced PvP with teams of the same size you queued in with. Marathon plays much more similarly to Hunt Showdown than Tarkov.
>>737217578Not sure if you are shitposting or just being a genuine retard. Either way, go drink some bleach, that should medicate you. Or do it the MAGA way - inject it up your ass to cure that autism of yours - you are MAGA after all.
>>737217712>Hunt ShowdownIt doesnt have glowing beacons indicating your extract, it doesnt have noises that announce your activity to half of the map.
>>737218048>What are noise traps?>What are clues literally alerting people to your presence?>What are banishes and bounties literally announcing your position to the whole server?You either didn't play Hunt or are retarded. The whole game is designed to create PvP player encounters by flowing players to the clues leading to the bounty compounds.Outpost and Cryo in Marathon play like Hunt Showdown lite by having you do shit on the outskirts of the map to then funnel you towards the middle to create PvP encounters. I agree that extracts could maybe be telegraphed less but the game kinda already has a solution for that with the Restricted exfils on Outpost rewarding you with a safer exfil for completing objectives.
>>737217409but rightwingers are even more against cute anime art styles
>>737206052They always lead with the retarded artstyle over everything else. Their marketing department shouldn't be this confident in "neon green - the game".
>>737219082manga was created in possibly the most right-wing society of all time
>>737219315not really, even at its most militaristic japan was never as right wing as your average muslim theocracynot even getting into manga's popularization occurring after the emperor was already ousted from power and the country was heavily liberalized
>>737213879>calling others faggot when he's the one defending the fag game
>>737216085Has Bungie done anything about this?I'm kind of hoping Bungie is simply unable to prevent this and other cheat types, though.
>>737214778At least in marathon I can say nigger, faggot and tell the one of a handful of trannies that play that they'll never be a real woman and to kill them selves with out being banned unlike in tranny raiders.Some one post all the tranny shit ingame in arc raiders!
>>737216516Season 2 has a new map, new shell plus loads of other changes to the current shells. Plus the maps are already way better than anything in any other extraction shooter already.
>>737216330No one buys singleplayer fps any more.Look at the last Doom game. Total failure in sales across all platforms.
>>737221147Lol nope, Bungie are the most woke modern studio and will ban anyone who says anything bad
>>737221147>in marathon I can say nigger, faggot [...] with out being bannedLet's not be retarded and pretend this is true. Bungie has the same carebear moderation every modern AAA studio has. The only reason they wouldn't ban you is lack of support personel, not because they are ok with it.
>>737221147In marathon you couldn't even say "Arc Raiders" without it being censored LOL
>>737219135Marathon looks realistic though. More so than the latest COD. At least in Marathon everything makes sense and looks believable.
>>737201734designed by people who are extremely out of touch with realityeach bad idea gets supported by their yes men so they all get executed as bad as they were conceived. and when people try to gently correct them they double down on their own assumption about its appealit picked a wrong fight to start, everyone cautioned them the limited audiences of extraction shooter. they were arrogant enough to think they can turn it into something of mass appeal and make the numbers work, the numbers didnt and welcome to reality, there's a reason why some genre are niche, this isnt rocket sciencebut what's fascinating is the same problem that plague games like concord and highguard, just really shitty mediocre ideas that somehow managed to survive layers and layers of burueaucracy that is meant to filter out bad ideas. this is reason why gamers dont want this, the very system that they promised to weed out bad things is purposely allow bad things to get by for the system's survival. what's the fucking point of paying AAA devs millions of dollars when in the end they dont deliver something you asked for or genuinely want?
Bruh this marathon shillbot is just saying things that are 100% false
>>737221386>>737221427>>737221518Fucking cope faggots. The tranny on the paedo groomer discord one of you faggots posted was nearly killing it's self over it. Cope.
>>737221285>Plus the maps are already way better than anything in any other extraction shooter already.lol
>>737221792Cope nigger. It's true.
>>737220954So far, simply claiming that they have zero toleraance for cheaters. At my level, I'm seeing cheaters constantly, with prebuilt teams having obvious "designated cheaters" so the rest of the squad doesn't have to risk their accounts. I don't see any way for them to detect DMA type cheats. They couldn't at all in D2, and had to go by the most outrageous player behavior. >>737219516While of course the islamic theocracies are going to win that match up, if Japan was so progressive, they wouldn't need to try so hard with payment processors and the poricori shit.
>>737222398>Cope nigger. It's true.lol
>>737223246LOLTry not to kill yourself
>losing 1k players on saturday night prime time us estoh my this is not good
>>73720240390% of the playerbase uses a mouse
>>737201734>buy marathon >runs bad, looks worse. >no detail anywhere just bold colors and soft haze>boring as fuck fetch quests picking up shit or shooting turrets 4 rounds in a row >not a single real person seen>round 5, complete fetch quest, lose all health items to laggy stutter fest metroid spiders>time to leave>extract covered in robots despite not being "guarded">no shields or health anywhere >dozen robots dead and still no health anywhere>get shot in the back by invis faggot>first real human to be not seen in game>alt f4>would you look at the time>119 minutes of playtime>no brainer refundShit game if you ask me, Nothing of value gameplay wise. Already played this in 2024 in mw3 and it sucked then too. These types of games are for losers that don't value their time, or excuse themselves for wasting time by being "social". Wasting time in a gear rat race with "friends" makes it all worth it, I'm sure. Amazing how nothing at all has changed in the market in all these years.
>>737205196Super Mario is in a kart with all of the power ups you'd expect
>>737201934Same, im having a blast! c:
>>737216516Because they don't have the budget or mandate. Because modern bungie can't crunch. They actually have pulled their people from GDC this year, so they know somethings up. And the've also been gassed up by the press and shills and their own media campaign. They're told the game is perfect. Just some haters keeping them from success. Check this anon: He trusts the plan. >>737221285Any day they're going to break out and be a great h it.
>>737225713>They actually have pulled their people from GDC this year,Many companies did it this year, stop misrepresenting this as a bungie thinghttps://gamerant.com/gdc-2026-ice-concerns-us-safety-fears-dev-comments/
>>737225751Hey, if they DON"T think there's a problem, that they need all hands on deck for that's even more hilarious. Is that what your'e saying here?
I worry that they’re gonna keep doing variations on the same maps for a whole year instead of making new things. For example the power will go out in Cryo, or ayys will infest pinwheel.
>>737226037It's bungie bro, they will do the bare minimum. In fact I've never seen a live service game over deliver on expectations.
>>737225713Why do you care if an extraction shooter based on a game from 1994 succeeds or doesn’t Why should anyone care aside from the people playing the game
The antis this game has are fucking deranged. I don’t know what Bungie did to these dudes, but they have certain people watching steam chart lines daily go up and down. The fuck did Bungie do to these people>l it’s like watching some sad ex-girlfriend shit
>>737226934Unironically mental illness
>>737201734it's just not good enough for a studio as extravagant as Bungie to sustain themselves.
>>737202306>game panders to green haired ethots with facial piercings and tattoos>trannies praise it for 2 months
>>737226934I haven’t seen a single Destiny player say something positive about Marathon. They’re all furious over Destiny being in the state they perceive it to be in.
>>737227668>guy has his full Christian name as his usernameThat’s how you know the guy is fucked up.
>>737227842>IT PANDERS TO TROONS BECAUSE THERE WAS A PURPLE BUILDING
VIBE: SHIFTEDFORM: RETURNED TOGAMERS: HOOKEDBLAST: HADREVIEWS: POSITIVEPLAYERBASE: DWINDLING
>>737211449What is SBMM?
>>737227668What is this exactly? Is this a bot? There’s no way this is a real person, because it has to have engagement scripts on the posts.
Recon is best class because it's the worst. So when you clap other player's ass cheeks in game it's all the more rewarding.
>>737228983>recon is the worstBrother they got buffed into the stratosphere with the last patch.They're the strongest shell in the game right now with all the information they're constantly generating.
>>737229049What were the changes? I mostly just use the spider bomb cause I'm not an idiot and I know how to throw it right.
>>737228983>ping everyone’s position in a 50m radius>footprints when you break shields >robots that finds people and breaks their shields>worst class
>>737229090The prime abilities pings are more frequent, harder for enemies to detect where they came from, give you information of what is/isn't a player and their shield tier/strength.Not even talking about their hilariously strong cores the seeker drone is also pretty decent now to boot.The only "downside" is signal jammed players don't get the new marker that signifies a player, you just have to assume those 3 random pings clustered together on cryo in those vents are players.
What's with all the "game of the year" hoopla it's receiving on some of my go-to socials? Gotta be the shills, right?
>>737229263>reveal yourself to everyone in a 60m radius
>>737229373It’s definitely up there. Not Stories 3 tier but it’s up there. You gotta remember that these games are a roller coaster of emotions. One minute you’ve had the best run ever and then it’s 8 losses in a row to cheaters.
>>737217558shalom
It’s an easy shoe-in for multiplayer GOTY. No other game has felt as good, the critical and player reviews show near universal acclaim. It’s their award to lose.
>I don't care for Marathon (2026) because it's not actually Marathon>This makes me a bigoted racist incel nazi chud somehowI hope all game devs and journos get replaced with AI.
>>737229435My dude there is no hiding in this game.But having several seconds of perfect tracking through walls is extremely valuable for flanking and catching people off guard.It tells you where you can and can't go, and who is cut off from their team for an easy pick.
>>737229573There were 1300 people in the world who cared about the original Marathon in 2023.
>>737229686I'm not a larper.
>>737229573you are a real womandont let anyone convince you otherwise
>>737229771I think your firmware is malfunctioning.
>extraction shooterwhat the fuck were they thinking getting in the bandwagon this late
>>737213879>It's a direct sequel to the og story you faggotwheres the story?wheres the narrative?oh wait! there is none, these "characters" exists in a vacuum where nothing happens
>>737226934D2 players are the psychotic ex gfs. Culture Warriors are just doing the bidding of their E-celeb overlords. Casuals just seethe because they get filtered as usual. The economy is also a factor. People cant afford 5-10 games a year anymore, so the prospect of another failed GaaS scares them, as it should, I just think the way they cope is ridiculous. Hopping on hate bandwagons and what not. Back in my day when people didn’t like a certain game, they would just ignored it and go play the one that they did like. Now motherfuckers are just weird.
>>737201734
>>737230706>no epilepsy warning>visuals and music can give migrainesHoly shit can't tell if boomer or just pure bred bitch made
>>737230618Actually, I’m shocked at the story in Marathon. This literally is Marathon 4 in terms of story. There’s no handholding of concepts, no real introductions, full lore terminals and understood knowledge of concepts from the originals.
>shill concepts to sony cause you can't maintain profitability on destiny>they give you 3 billy for the studio and a marathon GaaS KEK>sandbag its dev cycle to improve your proprietary engine and pipeline instead as you wrap up destinys death>choose artstyle that requires as little time and effort as possible literally decals copypasted on blank objects>release it to die>sony is forced to bargain with you again but now you own a bunch of fancy tech enabling a ridiculous online game scale production>probably already making a ye olde fantasy coop dark and darker rpg game with fuckhueg maps capable of battle royale player counts, deep realtime synchronized itemization, persistent shared story content, and true sandbox PvEvP>going all in on a literal skyrim x dark fantasy online conceptim putting all my marbles on this including the ones I lost projecting this alternate reality on the situation
I don't think that whether a genre is saturated or trendy is really the core problem. If you're not one of the first players on the scene, you have to do more to stand out, true. But there are successful games in established multiplayer genres coming out all the time. The real issue is that the industry is staffed with people who can't do anything but chase trends and blindly follow a pretty poorly formed set of standards and practices that often make the game worse for the average player, so the games that they release are kinda boring, annoying, and don't bring anything new to the table. Part of the point of having a big budget is that you can afford to pay whatever you need to secure the people who are smarter than that.And this isn't even getting into the fact that many of the devs in the industry actively don't want to make things that are appealing to guys who don't have any plans to cut their dicks off. That's why everything is so ugly and obnoxious. And this isn't unrelated to gameplay being shit, since the more you look at these people, the more you realize that their problems stem from the fact that they are the walking embodiment of 95 IQ. Asking them to understand the player experience is expecting too much from them.
>>737230706>Already wrong from the first lineLol
>>737202403true
>>737231071Any AAA remake of Marathon would have done the intro cinematic of recounting Marathon 1 and here’s the phor and here’s the officer and here’s what happened. And honestly I didn’t know Bungie was above that given that Destiny has a basic bitch Star Wars story but they threw that all the fuck out and went with Forerunner tier lore for this game.
>>737231209I think getting this game is wild. Okay there’s the extraction shooter bandwagon element, but Marathons IP? This sort of art direction and whatnot? That new Tarkov game in space, that’s what you’d expect from a AAA studio. If this game was made by Square Enix on the PS1 in 1999, people would herald it as a masterpiece.
No one actually likes bungie anymore lol
>>737225229>>no detail anywhere just bold colors and soft hazeFucking disingenuous retard.
This is the most oppressive game I’ve ever played. I have to physically wind down if I play for more than a few hours to unwind from the cortisol rushes and stress of Cryo runs. Some of the runs are insane in terms of pressure, and that’s not even counting the games tone and lore, coupled with the audio that push you in deeper after the run is over. Anyone that laughs this post off hasn’t played the game properly.
>>737228557>full Christian nameWhat does that mean?
>>737225229>I didn't have fun, so anyone who thinks it's fun is wrongReal profound insight
>>737225229filtered
>muh pressureLiterally less than playing any ARPG on hardcore mode!
>>737229435That was also fixed. I new that there was a Recon ulting on the floor above only because I was also playing Recon and could detect pings.
>>737232197Nah man you don’t understand. Don’t play Marathon, you’ll have mini night terrors for the first few weeks.
>>737217073>SBMM>ABMM???
>>737213110I've seen this goypig buy every cod skin in codg, so yeah youre not far off.
Sneed BASED M&MsAustralian BASED millimeter-meters
>>737232707Skill based matchmakingAggression based matchmaking
>>737202948that's not cute, that's a clown and borderline something you'd see in a horror game
>>73721253250%-100% of AAA games are typically marketingso if the game cost $250 million to make, the marketing easily ran another $200 million on top of it
>>737212532>OH MY GOD I'm physically and mentally upset by a short adNo wonder she married a pussy like youYou fuck like lesbians?
>>737231071>lore terminalsminimum effort, why make cinematics or narrative mission objectives. when you just write some lines on a terminal and let the npc players "imaginations" do all the heavy lifting.the Halo3 terminals where good because the supplemented the story. they didn't replace it
>>737234401Well, it’s either low effort or direct homage to the originals.
>>737234401>I didn't play the game, here's my opinionKill yourself
Clay? More.
>>737231071>This literally is Marathon 4 It's actually Marathon 3No, Infinity is not canon
>kino lore, OST, aesthetics, and somehow a creative followup to the OGs without retconning everything >okay Destiny gunplay with a bit too much aim assist>extremely content barren, few maps, entire factions without a questline, feels like a beta test >massive timesink metaprogression, no matchmaking tools and high stakes means you're forced to grind with a premade team or you get framedIt's so weird. It feels like a beta test despite the many years under development apparently, you can tell they changed the game massively very recently.I had fun in the first few weeks but I'm too employed to grind it anymore this season, I'll try it again later and I hope they revamp it somehow because it would be a waste of a setting to abandon it.
>>737235180look pal, i don't suck dicks on the regular. but i can imagine. unlike you, who do not need to imagine.
>>737231674Looks soft and hazy to me, get your eyes checked (2) and go outside to test your sensors (2). Hope no one interrupts you in the process such as a pack of rape prone niggers.
>>737235180You can watch gameplay online
>>737201734From everything I've seen and heard from streams and comments, this game should start with a 7/10 for core gameplay, get half a point knocked off for pressuring the player to treat it like a job and then rugpulling them, and then get 1-2 points knocked off for the aesthetics. Why? Because this is how an average player will judge the game and the two jobs of a game journo are to point customers towards games that they'll like and to act as surrogates for the customer who can communicate with the devs. And I do think that 7/10 for the base is fair. You can tell when you're watching a game that's exciting (even if it's a slow paced kind of exciting, before the obvious shills start), and this isn't it. It's blandly functional.A 9/10 multiplayer game doesn't struggle to keep a little over 25% of its already meager playerbase a month and a half after launch.
>>737201734Another patch that was supposed to save the game, another weekend that's down from last weekend.
I just can't get over how the game looks like an old McDonald's play area and the characters like a bunch of fat lipped metrosexual niggas
>>737237346>an old McDonald's play areaYou could turn that into an interesting area. You walk through a tube and find yourself in a giant underground jungle gym of plastic compartments and passageways that will be your battlefield.The problem is that in Marathon, the tube doesn't lead to anything as interesting as what your mind might conjure up. It's just more depressing saturated visual vomit. This game's visuals don't evoke any feeling of adventure.
>>737237346The gameplay in certain maps is like a McDonald’s play area considering vents.
>>737201932FPBP
>>737201734Gays and women.
$3.6 billion.
>>737239732This. Whenever you watch streams with western AAA developers, at least one of the men usually has a lisp. Sometimes all of them. And almost 50% of young devs at GDC identify as LGBT (this is thanks to ESG; even if the free money has dried up for now, the "leadership" is still there, and gays 100% favor their own for hiring and promotion). I'd also add "betas" to that list, since their whole life strategy is to blindly agree with women.Any attempt to talk about how western development has changed without talking about how western developers have changed is just beating around the bush. The videogame industry was built on guys making things for guys, and now that western AAA is actively going to war with this approach, it's imploding. Marathon is completely devoid of the male fantasy.
>>737215131well yeah that's the whole point, a bunch of people on the same map, all with objectives to be at different parts of that map, all with different incentives to kill each other, all with different gear and skill levels.the whole thing that makes it interesting is that at any one point you have a bunch of meaningful decisions to make that effect you medium/short/long term.if it clicks with you it's like crack, but you can bounce off at any point if you make too many wrong decisions and decide the game isn't fun because you lose all the time.but anyway:>be rook>gonna go to bio research for mats, quick run before bed>watch another rook enter before me>motherfucker is going to steal everything>stalk him for like 10 minutes as he thumps around looting the entire complex>jumps out a window for once last bag>down him>"please bro, I'm just here for mats">"I know" *executes*
>>737201734How can we save it?
