mageplestory lmao
nice cash grab, retards

YOOOO no cap? That's bussin bro, on god for real for real

release the game

>>737211853
how do i stop being a codelet

>twins gave up on killing jr balrog half-way through it's hp bar
lmao

>>737212106
buy on ebay, report sale for fraud as you received a used/nonfunctional key, get your money back, enjoy the beta.
Anyone with an asian sounding name is a bot farmer, they have 0 recourse and nothing will happen to you, you are only hurting yourself by not taking advantage of people who took advantage of the system.

>>737211853
>Making a thread about what streamers on twitch are doing
Kill yourself OP

>>737212259
Retard it's about Classic

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>>737211853
If only they'd fucking die like their predecessors.

I thought we were just being ironic about watching these zoomers...
Lads...

>>737212513
FRRRRR?!

>>737211853
Can someone please post the bbb character editor link?

I will literally never install or give attention to a nexon product. They have got to be the most disgustig, bottom of the barrel, "We oNLY produce P2W microtransaction slop, in fact we invented it!"Piece of shit studio. They develop games in the same way your colon "develops" faeces because they will literally never create anythong of substance. Maplestory and combat arms are 2 of the most heinous, most horrific things ever put into the market. Not just bad beause they're bad systems are shit, no, but so fucking bad because bugmen retard chinks and second world brasil fags and "in my country" posters (if you werent ashamed of your shitty third world euro country, you would just say 'here in slavofaggottovia" you haplogroup c/R1a yuropoor pieces of "human" waste) will continue to pay in these games because they wil never be able to muster the kind of intelligence, willpower, and determination (not alot, a 5 year old can do it when not a retard) to actually improve in a skill based game, so they actually like paying into this trash, especially if they can make it their job like a venezualan cockroach bleeding the economy of every mmo dry to earn a ricewage, so no all this shit just continues to fester in the gaming market.
Year after year after year.

Fuck maplestory, Fuck combat arms, and FUCK nexon.

And FUCK ZYNGA too but /v/ isn't ready for my zynga rant (they siinglehandedly fucked over all of the gaming industry)

>>737212513
I have no code what else am I supposed to do

>>737212663
Rape.

>>737212601
combat arms hasn't existed for over 15 years brother. What happened, did a chink hacker obliterate you or something?

What was the story with Tiger? What actually happened?

I don't know what class to pick because I want to play Buccaneer and whatever character I'll pick I'll just drop the moment they add Pirates.

>>737213131
3 friends playing the same account, they never got suspended, they deleted the character, someone else took it and it shows up on name sale markets now and again.

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>>737212601
Maplestory is a skill based game tho? When some KMS whale paid someone else to clear a difficult boss for him so he could finish his destiny weapon upgrade the GMs literally deleted the clear progress and weapon from his account, returned the unupgraded weapon back to him and told him he had to clear that shit for real

should i make a shadower or a night lord if all i care about is pqing and bossing?

>>737212601
I feel the same way about Nexon. After they nuked MS2 and got caught rigging rates on global, I will never forgive them. I wish this game was attached to literally any other company. This closed beta mesa only further strengthens my opinion of them being a dogshit company. If they start to introduce p2w in classic I will drop it instantly.

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>>737211853
How long until Nexon ruins it?

>>737213628
Assassins were better for PQs because they could get Haste early without crippling their damage that much

>>737213714
jeez sins have everything going their way huh

>>737213679
3rd job if Priests get Holy Symbol again. If that doesn't happen then 4th job if they bring back mage FMAs.

>>737213679
it's already ruined because it's not classic.
>downjumps so all of the maps are completely pointless and you don't have to platform
>bunch of stupid "qol" like being able to put up shops anywhere making every single map a cluttered fuckheap of brownies with 1 item in their shop at 800k mesos advertising something
>shitty new HUD instead of the hexagons
>new content that's decidedly modern-coded with fuck-ugly overdrawn sprites
>they're already trying to stuff in the modern maple storylines to it and retconning old stories
>TERRIBLE new crafting
lmao. All they had to do was release a pre-bb server, make no changes, and go through progression up to BB, then do it again in a year or two. Instead we'll get some shit with weird changes that classic fans don't like, it's too slow for numaplers to enjoy, and no one will end up happy so they'll all quit.

Also nexon just doesn't police the game in the west so hackers will be everywhere day 2.

>>737213887
aren't mage FMAs already giga nerfed since they found out that elixirs have potion cd

Any henehoes in henesys yet?

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>>737213921
this, retards were actually defending the changes and still saying classic is good
fucking kek

>>737211853
My original account that I played the GMS beta with got hacked or something in the 20 years I haven't played and I'm banned.

>>737213968
That's part of nerfing them but Bishops would still have a really easy time clearing out the entire map without a cooldown, and they're already pretty cost-effective. Sure you could slap a cooldown on them like what Big Bang did but it's a lazy (and really nasty nerf) that wouldn't solve the issue of them being deadweight in 4th job otherwise. I would rather FMAs not be brought back at all and all 3 mages have some viability for bossing through other attacks. As soon as BB dropped all 3 mages went to bottom 3 overnight because they were designed really poorly by having their FMAs be their source of power.

>>737213921
>All they had to do was release a pre-bb server, make no changes, and go through progression up to BB, then do it again in a year or two
So what release an mmo and then wipe everyone's progress a year later? That sounds like shit.

>>737213679
Already ruined

>Terrible class balance
>Quests are shit
>Party quests are shit
>Crafting system is shit
>Grinding is terribly slow but we don't have a kid's time anymore
>P2W elements like pets and stores
>Seems like no W10 support since it's now "outdated"

I predict 1st month will be a lot of fun due to the hype and high population, but population will decline very fast after that. I'll download and play it at launch for a while for the nostalgia, and that's it.

>>737211853
That's cool since it's a boss(ish). However I'm not looking forward to having to find a party every time I want to grind unless I want to lose insane amount of exp

>>737213921
>downjump
you control the buttons you press
>shops anywhere
those are going to be paid so people won't do that shit in the real release
>hexagons
that shit wasn't even in for most of oldschool maple
>new content
I do agree it doesn't fit much at all, but OSRS does the same thing and people love that. It would be impossible to completely recapture the exact aesthetic design old maple had when you don't have the original artists.
>trying to stuff in modern storylines
ride or die is barely even a storyline let alone actually connected to modern
>crafting
the old crafting was shit too, this doesn't really change anything

>uhh actually they should have just released another shitty private server
retard

>>737214238
It's been the absolute best performing player retention method for every single MMO that has tried it in the last 10 years. lotro, eq1/2, lineage, aion (rip), tera (rip), ddo, even wow with classic, though they're not wiping, they're just holding the prog servers up (that are basically dead anyway proving the point).
It doesn't matter if the shit gets wiped in a year if 90% of players quit in a month anyway.

>>737214238
they should keep wiping every month or so to prevent the "nu-maple" improvements from poisoning the server

>>737212663
Watch Niru

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>>737214238
I hate to be the one to break it to you but that's been the fundamental gameplay of an entire genre for 26 years now, yes.

>>737214323
You know that maplestory completely outperforms all of those mmos without doing that shit, right?

>>737214367
Wow it's almost like that genre is designed around short term progression where you can get through the entire game and endgame within a month or two.
Trying to apply that to a slow long term progression game like maplestory is completely retarded and missing the point of why people even want classic maplestory.

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>>737214452
Modern maplestory, sure. Classic's pservers have not held more than 500 players at once in 20 years. Artale, THE best performing pserver analog on worlds had 10k players for a week, and sank another 2k players every day till it hit the like 300 it's at now globally.
Mapleland has a good number but I don't have exact numbers for them, I think they're at like 2k ccu during peak.
classic has 0 proof of concept for player retention, besides, you know, actual classic, which was dying so hard they needed bigbang to keep players on board because it had lost so many over the years.

Should Maplestory's house mechanic be included into Classic?

>>737214645
none of the modern maple improvements should be added since classictards insist it's good because it's just a chat room

>>737214641
That's literally pulling numbers out of your ass considering maplestory worlds is extremely popular in korea and most people play it for mapleland.

>>737214783
Personally I think they should add professions.

>>737214303
don't care. change = not classic.
Classic = classic, and nothing else. It's some weird fuckass amalgamation of numaple slopgarbage and actual classic.

>>737215118
Literally none of those things have anything to do with numaple

>>737215082
>pulling numbers out of your ass
no, you can literally go look at royals and legends sites and see their CCU is around 500, unique users is around 200 at peak.
Artale posts their stats on their website, peak is 120 for NA, 200 for SEA.
Mapleland gatekeeps their data.
Worlds is barely top 10 in the PUBLICLY AVAILABLE pc방 census, and most weeks isn't, which means it's pulling around 10,000 CCU. How many of those are on mapleland, or the other classic games? We cannot know. Even if it's 100% of them, they still don't even come close to regular maple which is usually top 5, garnering near 75k-100k players daily.

>>737214238
That's what Classic WoW has been doing the past few years with special versions. We're on like the 4th different line of it now with another one being tested in China before they bring it to the west next year.

I don't like how they're bringing maple points over. being able to buy mesos for cash is a really shitty p2w feature.

Is it true Inkwell confirmed no Orbis on launch?

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>>737215208
>pulling around 10,000 CCU
Genuinely asking but how do you know those numbers? From what I can tell they only post games in terms of rankings compared to each other and not raw numbers.
(also unrelated but what happened that lineage is suddenly so high again)

>>737214641
>Classic's pservers have not held more than 500 players at once in 20 years
mapleroyal and maplelegends are both at like 2k each right now and I haven't even bothered looking at other top servers

>>737215515
no, they have been pretty squirrely about confirming anything upcoming.
Probably safe to assume if they're launching it soon, they keep it vic for at least a while to sort out the rest of the critical stuff like crashes.
>>737215551
Gamemeca (that list) is one of the pc방+census sites, where they pull data from user activity. Gametrics is another that presents total players logged in to pc방 computers and actively receiving benefits (in korea if you play at an internet cafe you usually get bonuses, in modern maple you get free gear, exp buffs, etc).Anyway Gametrics presents the total pc방 numbers, which doesn't count players at home, gamemeca combined with gametrics gives a better rough estimate.
Maplestory from the last week, 11-18 of april has had 53751 pc방 sessions logged. Is that 100% accurate? Nope, but it's the best we got.
>>737215603
okay now go look at unique users, not multiboxes.

>>737215603
>5 alts per player

>>737215551
shit forgot to answer, lineage just launched THEIR classic server, so it's the hotness right now. That's the whole reason nexon is doing classic, GMS is piloting, CMS classic launches sometime this year (they already have character name pre-reg open), KMS probably to follow once stuff's ironed out here and in china.
Lineage is doing gangbusters though and netmarble has been really pushing it both marketing and rewards and stuff. Tons of IRL item giveaways, hats, bags, etc. Top guilds get rewards like cash stipends, RMT is openly allowed and they have support sections to propagate rather than people going underground, it's really popping off. Beat league the week it came out, which hasn't happened since overwatch came out.

>>737214350
Ew, pass.

>>737215760
not netmarble ncsoft, netmarble launched their new pokemon gachaslop yesterday and it poisoned my mind lmao ncsoft runs lineage (RIP huxley and exteel and BOTS)

>>737215678
There is a screenshot on discord posted somewhere where inkwell said no to orbis and ludi on launch

>>737215760
It's crazy how MMOs are kinda dropping off in the west yet koreans are still just all over that shit in their own bubble basically.

>>737215410
>being able to buy mesos for cash is a really shitty p2w feature.

You realise people are going to buy mesos dirt cheap from bots anyway right?
I swear the maple classic community is so fucking retarded and naïve and has no idea what's actually in store for them once the real game drops.

f2p game with no subscription cost, this game is going to be absolutely INFESTED with bots, people will be buying millions of mesos for peanuts, I give it 1 month before you retards finally realise just how awful economy based mmos are in the current era

I learnt this lesson from classic wow, trust me, don't even bother playing classic maple, just wait 1-2 months then buy cheap chinese bot farmed gold then pay some other asian to boost your character then spend more money to buy the best gear without ever having to actually waste your irl time, it will be more cost efficient by a significant margin to just work your job and buy illegal mesos and p2w with your illegal mesos, it's what everyone else will be doing eventually.

/ourguy/ niru is streaming the curse eye grind

https://www.twitch.tv/niru

>>737215678
>bots/multiboxing
If you want to measure it like, no MMO has had more than 50 unique players in the last 15 years.

>>737216228
>/ourguy/
Not after he got raped by Nexon.

>>737216021
It's more that in the west everyone is so hyperconcentrated on MMOs in particular that the market snuffed itself out. WoW and FF14 are so fucking big here it bullied a lot of smaller stuff out of the market. WoW was in licensing hell in korea until the late 2000s so it had a way late launch.
And nexon host(ed?) FF14 in korea for a long time and it was supposedly pretty behind. I think that was supposed to change but I haven't looked at anything to do with ff14 since covid.

Anyway you can see even from that list you posted that RPGs are way less popular than action games now. It's just that nostalgia hits really hard. Maplestory has been going so long, alongside lineage, that it's not uncommon at all to see grandparents playing with their kids and grandkids. It's a thing.
Also RMT being legalized there and having protections makes playing MMOs more of an 'investment'. People spend like $100k USD on gearing up and then go crush bosses, sell the loot, and then sell the account hoping to make a profit. That's a big part of why Lost Ark succeeded (And then fell off) there.
>>737216238
most games don't actually allow multiboxing.

>>737216281
He admitted on a podcast that he was feeling frisky that night.

>>737216292
Most games don't 'allow' botting either.

>>737216220
oh you're that retard going on about "Economy based MMOs" from the other thread.
Go back to playing runescape, I hope you enjoy how fucked ironmen made it by completely standardizing every single boss to give you all the resources from all skills because you faggots couldn't handle "the economy based MMO".

>open thread
>its another one of keylets seething at the game
never change

>>737216417
go back to killing the same mob 10000 times bucko

>>737216228
Jesus christ this q-tip's brain is fucking fried.

>>737216469
he's the first person to hit level 300 (in any region, so he did it before KMS despite their 6 month headstart). Of course he's fried.

>>737216501
is this why gooks hate him so much?

>>737216525
stupid gaijin instead of getting to 300 talked a bunch of nonsense, disrespectful

>>737216525
Pretty much yeah.
He stopped at like 99.99% after nexon had sent him a handmade package with a statuette, a bunch of maple merch, a handwritten thank you card, and then went on a fucking 30 minute rant saying "nexon NA sucks they hate us, this game is complete fucking dogshit" then logged off without hitting 300.
And then about a month later when someone else (from taiwan)was getting close to 300 he popped it to be able to say he was first. So he's basically just a big ol bitch.

>>737216586
>>737216525
Oh also they updated the game explicitly for him to be able to get a special level 300 chair to flex in-game, announced his stream when he was going to level ingame, and a bunch of other shit. He REALLY fucking clowned on them. Got that CM fired too, for the linking ingame.

>>737216390
Enjoy having your economy ass raped by millions of chinese bots all milking the playerbase for every last dollar and making your meso and everything you do in the game completely worthless while gamer dads proudly buy botted meso and p2w everything for a few hundreds dollars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_QjSxjKVyg

You retards really have noooo fucking idea what you're in for lmao

>>737216390
It's really retarded how jagex listens to fuck ass snowflake autists in the first place. Like imagine actually developing an entire area for F2P to make the experience better and then just having to euthanize that shit into irrelevancy because of some mentally ill loser crying that it "invalidates" his f2p 99 in mining. Same with genuine retarded mechanics like not being able to change your fucking spell layout when in the wilderness because pvp nerds think being forced to use default layout is "skill"
Sometimes it's good to listen to your playerbase but other times you just gotta tell those losers to fuck off

>>737216338
NTA but you realize you have to register the equivalent of your fucking SSN to create an MMO account in Korea, right? I’m not saying people can’t find a way to multibox but the barrier is sky high.

>>737216689
That's why I only use pc방 metrics anyway, you can't multibox on a PC at a cafe, you can't really do shit but play on them, they're (typically) very locked down. His point is irrelephant when the numbers are objective.
Steam is also a fine metric, where MODERN maple (without even accounting for the fact most people don't play on steam) still pulls top 500 numbers every single day, usually 7k-10k.

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>>737215603
>mapleroyal and maplelegends are both at like 2k each right now
Ok

Good Modern Maplestory Mechanics that should be added to Classic
>Battle Analysis
It's a tool that provides info on how much XP you gained, how much damage you did with specific skills, and how many monsters you killed while active. No reason not to add it as it helps new players find unorthodox maps to grind in.
>Fishing
It's a Chinese Maplestory exclusive where you do a quest and get unique chairs that unlock a fishing minigame when used around specific fishign holes. The more fish you collect, the higher the quality of the chair you can get which unlocks new fish to collect. These fish can be traded for fishing coins which can be spent on fishing-related NX outfits and potions or sold for meso.
>Guild Castle / Hall
It's a shared space for all guild members that have private rooms and utilities such as guild NPC shops. Players can help support the guild building by supplying ETC. drops and submitting them, allowing for it to develop further and even acquire free potions as "guild supply"
>Home
It's a personal space players can build and customize using home items and items for the house dropped by monsters. You can display your favorite outfits and have a personal access point to storage, along with items like foods that heal you or provide buffs assuming you spend the time watching over your kitchen and maintaining relationships with NPCs in the area.
>Maple Guide
While it's good for Modern Maplestory, a revamp could make it good for Classic too. Not so much a way to teleport to locations, but an actual "guide" that just tells players where some popular maps are with alternatives should they be full. Same with which bosses you can do and how to begin their quests, along with party quests you can do and where they're at.
>Monster Collection
It's a collection of every monster in the game, including bosses. Every time you kill one, you get a chance to acquire it for your collection along with some details about it (such as stats and item drops)

>>737216803
fishing wasn't cms exclusive, just originated there. It's been out of the game for many years, sadly.
Agree with the rest.
GMS USED to have a monster bestiary, which was exclusive, but they just stopped updating it so it was years behind before we got transferred to the familiar collection book.
Monster collection doesn't have drop info or any of that, btw, it's literally just a "you got it" and then you can send them out on expeditions once you clear lines to get basic rewards every 3/6/12/24 hours like reward points or secondary stat boosters (Which don't exist in classic).
The rest would be nice, battle analysis would be awesome.

>>737216750
>His point is irrelephant
Don't you ever say that to me or my point ever again.

>>737216586
>>737216662
get dunked on bitch

>>737216803
you could just play modern maple instead of mageplestory classic

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>>737216905
Instead of Monster Collection they can just put in World Archive instead. I'd say that feature fits in almost perfectly with Classic since it promotes actually exploring and interacting with everything, while also just making the world more lively with the random info about NPCs and lore you can read in it.

I am so happy playing this game, it really is just like the good old days after I got home from school

>>737217129
magestory will end as soon as serious bossing content is added

>>737216765
I can't imagine how hard retards like this are seething at the official classic launch. All these hours wasted on a non-official server that will become a ghost town after official launches.

>>737217289
I don't disagree, but that's also a relatively new system. I really think they should be focusing on getting the core systems functional and the game not crashing all the time before they start implementing more stuff.

Also they have to re-write a ton of that lore shit cause they're changing a bunch with forgotten hollow and inserting new areas in. I'd bet if it does well we might see something analogous to it though.
>>737217339
well right now the cope is "it will be p2w and all we have to do here is vote every day 5 times to get nx and ignore people paying for edited equips!"
I think they'll have their audience though, even after classic comes out, because some people just will not mesh with the changes.

>>737216662
>heh he really owned them!
>still leveled to 300 after getting none of what he asked for in his rant and is playing classic maple now
holy fuck i thought the guy saying he got raped was kidding but he was being real what the fuck

>>737217298
Did the entire fucking playerbase memoryhole that mages were always good in the first 50 levels? The only real difference is that assassins aren't also as strong this time.

>>737217508
Oh absolutely, he got nothing out of it, but for like, a day and a half, he clowned on them. It was all lip service in the end and most people knew it was going to be that way but there was, for a brief, bright moment, potential for there to be change.

>people now selling accounts on ebay
maaaaan, I cannot BELIEVE people are paying for fucking accounts that can be taken back in like 3 minutes and a ticket.

>>737217585
>got literally no recompense
>still has people making fun of him to this day
>doomed to play maplestory forever even after getting raped, gaped and prolapsed by nexon
>looks more gaunt, dead and bald by the day
I just kind of feel pity for him now. Is the /ourguy/ thing just a mean spirited ironic thing?

>>737217672
Are you surprised autistic people are stupid?

/ourgirl/ is back

https://www.twitch.tv/triciaisabirdy

>>737218053
I mean anyone linking ANY twitch stream is ironic shitposting (besides maybe kobe but he hasn't been on /v/ or /vg/ since the naver english KMS account shutdown in the 2020s), so yeah. It's especially mean spirited to him.
He just always looked that way though, that's nothing new, he's a genuine maple addict. Plays artale like 50 hours a week.

>>737218450
Man this is pure soul

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Well, /v/?
What are your answers?

>>737218053
you are an idiot though. he's just doing what he enjoys and you're crying

>>737218632
Looks to be addicted to a bit more than video games

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RELEASE THE FUCKING GAAAAAAAME!

>>737218747
>only ~500 votes per question
dead game

>>737218747
>should pirates exist
C, I think it's inevitable they add them. Many people do view them as part of classic, and I wouldn't hate it, just not at launch.
>guilds
depends entirely on if there will be content or if they'll just be another chat. If there's content, A, keep it in. If there's no content, D, make them more accessible but no rush.
>shops
should only be in FM, I hate seeing them every 2 steps. I don't care they'd cost real money later, leaf points means you can buy NX for mesos, they'll be EVERYWHERE.

>>737218747
>Yes. Pirates are Classic so add them in asap so long as they don't delay the launch
>Guilds should be added with a place in Victoria Island but not as the "main hall"
>Shops are fine, but it should be in designated locations. The reason being because if they're so spread out, finding things could be significantly more difficult.

>>737218747
C
B
A

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Thoughts on Dinofries?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kb771u0owE

>>737218747
>Pirates
B or C. I don't need them right now, but it'd be cool to see them again later down the line.
>Guilds
B. I don't see why they shouldn't be in Victoria Island as well, especially if Ossyria has a chance of not being there at launch.
>Shops
A, but I'd be okay with them being available in towns. I'm honestly surprised shops in towns is in the minority.

>>737218462
damn she levels SLOW

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Everytime I wake up I'd wish I could hop on classic with the bwos

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>>737218682
Wait what the fuck this is how I learn that green mushrooms are immune to poison?

>>737218682
N-NO IT'S NUMAPLE
IT'S SHIT
IT'S SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
FLASHY NUMBERS
SCREENCLEAR
FUCKING AOE
AHHHHH IT'S SHIT
IT'S THE JOURNEY

Okay I think I covered all bases. The World Archive and cutscene library they have now are really massive steps forward for exposition and worldbuilding. I hope they do a lot more stuff like that going forward. Even the localizations have been decent.

Should Kritias be in Classic?

>>737219268
no, but hekaton and ursus should be.

>>737218747
C, C, and A. Launch the game asap, it's fine as it is aside from bugs and questionable balance. Don't give a shit about pirates and guilds.

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>>737218747
>2 years in development and they are actually planning to just launch with victoria island only
Are these guys fucking for real?

>>737218747
C
B
A
Pirates can inevitably be added later and would be an easy way to revitalize the game down the road. No reason to be in at launch.
Guilds are nice just as a convenient way of quickly grouping with people ingame instead of through Discord
Shops everywhere are cancer. It's cute in theory to enter town or go near a crafting area and instantly see relevant materials being sold but without any limitations, it just make towns look like complete shit. Designated areas would also be meaningless when that's literally what FM is for.

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I like desert

>>737213921
Back to royals my man

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>>737218747
A
C
A

>>737220218
I will when they finish releasing pink bean

>>737218849
Wop

all this hype has killed my desire to play or watch anything... god damnit

>>737220702
Literally just forget about it for a year until the real game comes out

>>737212601
Based.

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>>737220831
>for a year
i-its coming out next month... haha....

>>737220964
:D

>>737211853
wait a minute, I don't want to socialize with other people at all

>>737221019
so stay on reboot

>>737212663
watch pencil snek

>>737220831
>a year
GMs ingame are far too friendly and having too much fun for the game to be that far out. I'd guess it's releasing in the summer.

>>737220964
I wouldn't place my bets on next month, but definitely this year.

>>737221089
what? people still play this game?

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pyd8BcEdx/

>some chink recorded taco's stream and uploaded it to bilibili
>got a shit ton of views
Chink bot farms are confirmed to be populating the stirge maps on release.

>>737221458
WELP, time to pack it up boys.

>>737211853
>streamer cock sucking thread
Kill yourself.

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daaaaaaamn

so what's the copium on them dropping another batch of keys on the 21st?

>>737221693
>YOUR PET IS RUNNING LOW
>DO YOU HAVE ANY FOOD?
>OR POTIONS?

>>737221875
There is no copium. All those keys will go straight to chink/jeet bot farms to be pawned off for $400 on ebay.

>>737221693
This image reminds me, since 3rd job won't be out on launch and people will probably hypergrind to the softcap of like ~80-100, is there any downside to "overlevelling" past the new job breakpoints?

any fun pserver to quench the thirst that isn't royals or legends?

>>737222064
You used to lose the SP if you did, they fixed that down the line, and at least for classic test, you get what would have been missed when you make the job change,

>>737222086
southperry on worlds is a roguelike. Pretty enjoyable for like an hour at a time.

>>737218747
>C
Pirates should get in but they're not super urgent compared to...
B
Guilds should be in but more importantly why the fuck isn't Ossyria in at launch? Zakum doesn't have to be in right away but jesus christ Ossyria seems like an obvious no brainer.
A
You just have to have shops in FM honestly, having them in the towns looks retarded.

>>737222086
Dream is fun in general but not really classic-esque

Fantasia is likely closer to what you want since you're looking to avoid the "same 50 people on 5000 accounts' cliques on royal/legend

>>737221693
forgot how much the florina beach background looked like orbis's background. god i miss orbis so fucking bad
>>737222064
you used to not het SP for the levels you missed, but that's been fixed.

>>737222349
>Fantasia is likely
It's a boring ass server with anti quality of life.

>>737222102
Not bad, and I think there's no different hp/mp gain for jobs beyond 1st so people can level as they like without having to holdback waiting for patch

Where are the best places to grind again

First level 50 confirmed.
Literally this guy: >>737221693

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>>737222808
Interesting that they actually have a message for it aswell. I hope they don't plan on slowly unlocking level caps.

>>737222808
>>737222837
What I don't get is that Forgotten Hollow is a mostly level 50+ area with a level 60 boss. How do they expect people to test this with a level 50 cap?

>>737213921
>All they had to do was release a pre-bb server, make no changes
This is a terrible, terrible idea that quickly devolves into leech and fma story.
Your nostalgia doesn't magically make the shit parts of osms (which is a fucking lot) not shit.

>>737222837
I doubt it for full, this is probably just so people don't start breaking past mob defenses.
>>737222935
because they want people to team up and try to challenge it? There are scrolls and shit too.

>>737222981
Cool I literally do not care about your headcanon.
Changes = not classic. this is fact

>>737222984
>because they want people to team up and try to challenge it?
That might work for the boss, but not the mobs. Nobody will touch the level 50 mobs.

>>737223023
why would they? The cap is 50, you'll suffer through them for the quests and to get to the boss, that's probably the point, to actually test the area out, they want people to challenge it, not for everyone to just grind there mindlessly where they get 0 info.

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>>737213921
I do wish they removed downjumps honestly. People would riot for a while but it would be for the good of the game.

>>737222981
As it stands all you need to do is go to stirges for 2 days and then lorangs for 2 days and you're 50. This is worse and less varied than even OG no changes.

>>737211853
>twitch streamer shit
We couldn't be further from back if we tried

>>737217339
I had a level 60 Ice lightning in Artale, but i stopped playing for this exact reason. Why continue when the servers will die after classic launches.

>>737223082
>why would they?
They won't you fucking idiot, that's the point. A level 50 level cap is stupid when you expect them to grind level 55-57 monsters

>>737221256
My prediction is that they WANT to release by summer.
It's always been mmo prime time with kids getting out of school, vacation time and etc.

Whether or not they can do that, well, who knows.

>>737223381
WHY
WOULD
THEY
GRIND
no one is expecting them to grind
they want them to test the area, NOT grind. Nigger are you retarded? You clearly can't read.

>>737223390
people have way crazy ideas for this shit, why would they launch in the summer when that's the most profitable point in time for modern maple? Why would they want to cannibalize? It's almost certain they stagger updates between modern and classic, at least until the profitability of classic is discerned.

>>737223390
Inkwell said they don't want to release it during a major GMS summer patch, it's likely October since that's always a downtime on GMS

>>737221256
two more weeks

>CMs haven't been ingame on modern maple for 3 months
>they're running around spawning bosses and hosting JQs in classic
not a good look desu.

>>737223438
Nobody is testing that shit you stupid fucking idiot. Nobody is wasting there time torturing themselves for no good reason. Idiot.

>>737223018
okay, and they literally said that if you want a 1:1 recreation to go play a private server, so suck shit.

>>737223468
The game is nowhere close to release this is an alpha larping as a beta test. There's going to be at least one more closed beta and an open beta. Launch is probably next May.

>>737223528
The whole point is this is a fucking test. God damn you are a stupid nigger. If you're not TESTING it you should probably just hit 15 and log off.
>>737223534
where did they ever say that? I'd love to see nexon saying "Go play a private server" in any capacity at all.

>one of the maps in Forgotten Hollow is just a flipped Ant Tunnel map
Lazy fucks

>>737223591
It's lore accurate

>>737223562
You literally don't know how people play the game at all, stupid idiot.
You can't even properly test content if it's out of level range, especially with an accuracy bug.

I actually can't believe how stupid you are. Jesus christ you're a moron. Just do the world a favor and commit suicide, nobody will miss a worthless piece of 60-IQ garbage like you.

>>737223562
>where did they ever say that?
https://www.mmobomb.com/an-exclusive-interview-inkwell-about-maplestory-classic-world-his-vision

>MMOBomb: What's your design philosophy for Classic World? Are you aiming to keep it as authentic to the original MapleStory as possible, or are you planning some modern touches? And how are you balancing that?

>“I think the important question would be ‘Why did we start Classic World?’ If you think about Classic World, we already have it. Like, there were private servers, and on MapleStory Worlds — our own platform — we have Artale. If you look at that, there’s no need for us to create Classic World.

>>737223018
>Cool I literally do not care about your headcanon.
Sure but the reverse is true as well. If you want no changes, play a private server.

>>737223390
I'd imagine they wouldn't want to push the release too far as offering closed test rewards that you get to use in spring 2027 when you don't even remember this game doesn't make sense to me.
My main worry is that there seems to be more and more information coming that is just getting added to the list of reasons why they can't release it. It all comes down to how fast they can fix these and I'm a bit sceptical about it

I'm thinking they need more time and to run another test which would likely be open or so I'd hope. I do want the game to release as soon as possible, but at the same time they just need to fix a lot of stuff and that isn't really looking too good in my eyes.

/msg/ says Classic failed.

>>>/vg/564024989
>>>/vg/564025210

>YWN flirt with a cute Korean hag in Maplestory because Inkwell didn't send you a code to Maple Island

>>737223970
/v/ermin says classic won but don't even have a beta key or quit at level 20

https://www.twitch.tv/triciaisabirdy

Thoughts on /ourgirl/?

>>737223970
>/msg/
LOL

I have been streammaxing since the beta dropped.

I can tell you for 100% now bandit has the highest single-target dps. They are better than mages unless mages have elemental advantage.

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ISRAEL??

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>>737224365
they dont

The game is releasing in the summer. Deal with it.

>>737224519
yo what's this guys channel

>>737224519
Ryambi and Taco are hitting higher than that.

https://www.twitch.tv/ereklo_game/clip/AffluentCovertLardBibleThump-5q7WTdOxDps_VRxG

>>737224627
They're higher level and doing 200 x 6 which is barely higher, Cleric should not be doing that much on non-holy weak.

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>>737224660
This clip is kino unironically. The slow gameplay of old maple with some green fart bubble and they're going at it like they're witnessing some Fortnite million dollar cup winning kill.

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New boss confirmed for Classic.

>>737224765
these guys get a lot of hate but there's something really funny about them going crazy non-stop over the most simple, slow-paced, uneventful mushroom game ever.

>>737224519
I hope the UI changes into something a little better. I don't like how numaple's look, its a bit too sterile, but at least it was organized

>>737223468
modern global maplestory has been on life support for the better part of the last five years. at this point, GMS numaple is an ugly stepchild they keep around because there's enough whales to keep it worthwhile. there's huge swathes of people that are alienated by how dogshit numaple is that still want to engage with the IP. that's the point of the insanely successful idle game, and soon, the point of classic.
the classic maplestory audience is not the audience that will care about numaple. there is nothing to be cannibalized to begin with. you're retarded. if the game doesn't launch this summer, it will have had nothing to do with the fact that it would have overlapped with a near-dead game's "peak" player season (read: it has 8k players instead of the usual 7k)

>>737225096
source? reboot servers are always full during burning events so it's not dead

>>737225075
they're reaction to footage of people piloting their accounts

What did Nemi say in Perion today? Any new information?

Ryambi said he asked if they were going to have a community input system similar to OSRS and she indicated yes.

>Nerf fire arrow
>Leave cleric's holy arrow as is
>Poison brace sucks
Yikes... Cleric busted once again. Same old meta

>>737224519
this guy is drunk as shit

>>737225096
I do think it's ridiculous to claim that launching it in summer would somehow hinder modern.
As you said, they're different audiences.
There's always a few contrarians that come out of the woodwork to claim
>but *IIIIIIII* like both!
but most people staunchly like one and dislike the other with no in between.

>>737225075
I don't watch their stuff since that sort of high energy stream stuff isn't for me, but it clearly works for them. I don't really hate them or anything, but I just found the clip to be funny since the difference between gameplay and their energy is chaotic.
>>737225275
She did mention about potentially moving the shops out of towns and also allegedly mentioned EU server in a similar manner that how GMS has NA/EU being an option you choose.

Shops outside of FM being only player shops I could see being fun, but it can just end up being the cluttery mess we are seeing which isn't that nice and does ruin the flow of hanging around in towns chatting etc. I do think it could be fun seeing shops near some grinding spots or somewhere where you need to collect a lot of etc items and have a player selling them those items or potions. I think that's neat, but have to see.
EU server I am a little conflicted on as even if they have it during release. My guess is that the population there will be much smaller and in danger of becoming a ghost town if player retention isn't held. That and how EMS was ran and how a lot of people have NA friends, we already have plenty of EU people who would rather just deal with the ping which isn't too much of an issue to play on NA instead. I know I would play on NA instead of EU.

WHAT
THE
FUCK

https://www.twitch.tv/gigataco5/clip/WittyAnimatedNuggetsPupper-4qX7JQFuiIrdivwR

>>737225286
>Leave cleric's holy arrow as is
Still useless because all their other skills are objectively more useful.

>>737225564
and people still think its releasing in summer lol
this shit is a closed alpha

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>>737225096
I honestly think that with MMO's that have been ongoing for too long, there is such a thing as "too much content" and it's too daunting for new players to get into. I played 2~3 years ago during a hyperevent and got up to like 200 whatever, and I was like wow they are just giving levels away so easily. But then you start hitting the real grind, and you're hit with all this boss content, and having to memorize shit, and there's so many consumables, and that Legion garbage, it's just overhwhelming. Same feeling I got going back to WoW for the new expansion a few years ago. I have been playing XIV for over a decade, but I imagine new players feel the same way when they are told they have to go through 400 hours of story content to get caught up.

And so I think that's why these Classic things are so popular. Other than nostalgia, they are just so much more simple and easier to get into. With all the games competing for your attention, unless you're already heavily invested in an MMO, it's just not worth getting into this late into the game. I think Blizz picked up on that and it's why they keep or kept doing Vanilla reboots every year.

idk I'm just ranting because I want to play and I can't rn

>>737225702
>click drop money button
>you will drop this money
>clicks OK
>money drops
>WOOOOOOOOOW THIS IS UNFINISHED ETA 2027 IF LUCKY
back to /msg/ coping whiny little faglord

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>>737224660
>them trying to party up and kill jr balrog on stream today
>they kept getting rekt, which sends them back to sleepywood
>takes 10-15 minutes to get back, along with several pots to get passed tauromacis
>decide to formulate a new strategy
>find a warrior with high hp and get him to aggro balrog to the right corner of the map
>actually somehow find an esl level 37 page grinding in ant tunnel with his gf
>convince him to stop grinding and join their boss party
>they all run to the boss with the page trailing behind, and he ends up getting lost in ant tunnel, creating a massive spergout
>takes 20 minutes for him to finally reach the tauromacis, and he takes another 15 minutes trying not to get hit
>finally reaches the balrog
>the page hits it and immediately dies in the middle of the map

>>737225702
where's the bug you fucking retard?

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>>737225564
>how many will you drop?
>15000
>drops 15000

>>737224731
So exactly what the other Anon said?

>>737225740
>intimidated by too much content

I hate normalfags, at least complain about the quality of the content that is more important

>>737225482
All they need is a magical way of denying VPNs and auto perma banning anyone who plays on NA without being from NA.

>>737225696
>Still useless because all their other skills are objectively more useful.
>useless
It's incredibly good. Hits 3 mobs or 1 for 3 times the damage

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>>737225702

>>737225902
Nope, Cleric is still out-damaging them while being lower level.
200x6 = 1200
445 + 453 + 455 = 1353
On holy weak with the current 1.25x element multiplier it would be 1691
This is a non-min maxed Cleric out-damaging every other class in the game.

>>737226083
But let's nerf fire arrow

Fucking Shitxon

>>737225239
>reboot servers are almost always full
this is a meaningless metric because we don't know the exact server capacity, and games will often fudge playercounts anyway so a "full" server is usually just at whatever capacity that doesn't cause the server to burst into flame. reboot also accounts for the stark majority of GMS players. shitturdactive servers (the moneymakers with the whales) even post-merge are ghost towns. you can just go look at steamdb and see the steady decline.
>uhm but that's only steam players?
shut the fuck up nigger you know nobody is playing through the nexon launcher
i don't even know that you're trying to argue here with this btw. you just asked for my peer reviewed study like some fat redditor but i don't even think you know what you're looking for either.

>>737226169
again, source? Where are you getting this idea that GMS is dead and classic cashgrab will somehow "revive" it?

>>737226083
>which is barely higher
When you change your argument every post, it gets nonsensical.

>>737226467
They're literally in the same map, kiddo.

if I don't have a key by the time the servers update on the 21st I'm just biting the bullet and buying one.

>>737226292
>Where are you getting this idea that GMS is dead
steamdb
>and classic cashgrab will somehow "revive" it?
i never said this. literally never. you're making shit up which tells me you're just here to driveby. kill yourself nigger

>>737226683
>steamdb
Do you think steam has a majority of maple's players? It wasn't even on there until 8 years after launch.

>>737226640
do like this guy says and refund it
>>737212183

I'd try it but I'm too scared t b h

lmao classic schitzos already coping
love it when they're already talking about adding in job advance updates when it disqualifies it from being classic. Just play nu-maple you retards

>>737226754
He's going to get his key revoked and lose the rings. Since it's Nexon GM's selling the keys instead of sending them out they're just going to ban his account.

>>737226739
you're literally a golem btw because i replied to this post you made just now like 30 minutes ago. i literally predicted your dialog tree. >>737226169

>>737226840
>PLEASE!!!! PLEASE PLAY NUMAPLE!!!!! NOBODY WILL BUY MY ACCOUNTS IF YOU ALL PLAY CLASSIC INSTEAD!!!
holy pinoy

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>>737214303
>you control the buttons you press
This single mantra is ruining gaming at an alarming rate. It's so fucking over

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Suggest anything that highlights a problem with mages being OP and you get the salty magemains fighting against it.

>>737226853
I'm not even him, just saw the post on the front page and came to laugh at you.
>no one's playing through the nexon launcher
looooooooooooooooooool
I've never played on steam a day in my life because steam used to crash every 15 minutes and wasn't upkept.

>>737226640
Don't do it bro. You're rewarding scalper-tier scumbags + you'll get burnout when the real thing comes out.

>>737226884
>PLEASE!!!! PLEASE PLAY CLASSIC!!!!! NOBODY WILL BUY MY INVITE CODES IF YOU ALL PLAY NUMAPLE INSTEAD!!!
holy pinoy

>>737226849
the sad part is it's believable

>>737226967
but then i'll miss out on the beta rings. it's the only way to show that you've been there from the beginning.

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>>737227036
>but then i'll miss out on the beta rings. it's the only way to show that you've been there from the beginning.

>>737226908
People will cry about any nerfs no matter how tiny. I do think currently the accuracy stuff is a bit wild at how mages are more accurate than archers o all things and honestly there is very little reason to pick archer compared to mage or assassin anyways outside of pure fun which isn't exactly good indication of balance. Other classes could pick up pace in higher levels and later on have mages fall off from the early level domination to more acceptable levels, but the current situation is not looking good.
Definitely need more time not just looking at the current situation, but also how this could potentially affect later levels and jobs.

>>737226959
>i-i'm not him and there's totally 200k secret mail-in users on the nexon launcher!! they're the silent majority, they'll just find them at 2 am!
unreal post

>>737227036
There'll be similar things for first day/month/year players on the proper release too.

Nobody will give a shit about an event that was completely RNG/pay-to-play.

How does this silly little game make this faggot seethe that hard? kek hope it blows up so hard nexon slows GMS content in favor of it.

>>737227146
What the FUUUUUUUUUCKKK

>>737227146
daaaayum that guy be butthurt

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Every single thread

lucid class is literally coming to global while classic has nothing to look forward to. Every streamer is already talking about content addition and p2w

>>737227146
Is this /msg/fag after seeing classic's numbers?

>>737227241
Every top maplestreamer is playing Classic and saying they'll absolutely be playing it on release.

Even Kobe is saying he's excited

Why is Florina Beach in the Classic playtest anyway? That shit came after Orbis.

>>737227185
i just wish it was like the mark of the beta. in 2005 it was an open beta and everyone got one.

>>737227301
they're also saying they'll play lucid when she gets released

>>737227390
Good for them. It doesn't change the fact that there's a lot of excitement for Classic.

For some reason numaplecucks like you have a hard time accepting this.

>>737226546
I'm not even sure at this point that you understand the meaning of your own words.

>>737227418
Good for them. Doesn't change the fact that they're excited for numaple and its future updates.
For some reason classicucks like you have a hard time accepting this.

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>>737227418
this is what modernshitters are like

>>737227504
thank you for confirming you're a moron.

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>>737226908
>2 people disagree
I think you're imagining something far greater in your head then what you're actually posting.

/msg/ here we hate classic

>>737227538
quit crying about numaple, moron

>>737227267
>>737227209
>>737227231
>not on archive
What'd I miss?

>>737227582
Never did, sorry idiot.

>numaplepedopinoy gets verbally raped by facts and logic
>has to post gore to cope
What is it about classic that terrifies then so?

>>737227628
you're crying so hard about numaple that you had to post gore, lmao

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when are we getting a collab with our sister and fellow nexon game blue archive?

>>737227630
it got posted in /msg/ too and got deleted at the same exact time as that post lol

>>737227654
>why does everybody hate numaple players?
because they post gore and then pretend like the people they were losing to in an argument did it.

>>737227562
No, the reason that pic isn't getting downvoted is because he's using careful inoffensive language.
If the word "nerf" was present in this post, guarantee every single mage main would get salty.

There is also now a 3rd downvote on the previous post. Magetrannies even get offended at the suggestion they shouldn't be able to kill Jr Balrog at level 40.

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>>737227657
any and all collabs are numaple and chatroom classicers don't want that

>>737227607
here you go bro

https://litter.catbox.moe/gmfpsu.webm

>>737227696
>why does everybody hate classic players?
because they post gore and pretend like the people they were losing to in an argument did it. Can't even defend classic properly without demanding numaple features and updates

>>737227709
You are trying way too hard. It's not even funny anymore, just boring.

>>737227815
I accept your concession, idiot.

>>737227709
>0 downvotes, not a single one
>directly says to buff other classes and not mage
>"that's just because he was being inoffensive in saying to nerf mage"
You're reaching extremely hard
>now a 3rd downvote on the previous post.
You can find a retard that would support anything. If Nexon was asking for permission to rape and kill everyone that signed up for the CBT, you'd get just as many people giving it a thumbs up probably more

>>737227825
Anon isn't one person newfriend :)

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>>737227719
>any and all collabs are numaple

>>737227719
holy tourist

>>737227830
It's actually not a reach. The word "nerf" has always evoked a very strong emotional reaction in the autistic community.
There is a very big difference between calling for balancing and calling for nerfs, and use of the latter word will 100% result in a different kind of reaction.

Saying "buff all the other classes" is the extremely safe take and magetrannies aren't going to complain. However, suggesting that mages shouldn't be able to kill Jr Balrog at level 40 makes magetrannies start crying, because it implies they should be less powerful.

>>737227924
>enough for zero downvotes
Who are you trying to fool?

All the nerds are hyperfocused on muh buffs and nerfs, but nobody is talking about content.
The common consensus among all streamers is that Classic should have more content like Forgotten Hollow, but all anyone ever wants to talk about is buffing this, nerfing that, changing this skill, etc.

Like who the fuck cares about that shit. All of this is tertiary to the core experience. None of these skills mean anything if there's nothing to fucking do.

>>737227924
"fixing" the classic balance to modern maple standards is openly admitting that classic is trash albeit

>>737227986
sorry but i really do not care what disingenuous, illiterate moderncucks like you have to say. Nobody is playing your flashy anime toy game

>>737227970
they should just play numaple instead of pretending to want to play classic. Classic is "good" because people "socialize" and that's what these retards want

>>737228064
see >>737228028

>>737228028
you do care because you have no rebuttal argument to your defeat in facts and logic
cope and seethe

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>>737228106
>you do care because you have no rebuttal argument to your defeat in facts and logic
>cope and seethe

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>>737227924
Again, you just seem to be obsessed with literally 3 or 4 people that downvote everything having to do with mages. The vast majority explicitly supports balancing mages.