"Time to experience the timeless underrated classic, Fire Warrior!">"It's quiet...">shrieking audio glitch constantly playingThey really advertised this as a Halo competitor.
I'd like to meet the individual who called Fire Warrior a "timeless classic"
>why aren't there any fucking battlesuits in this game>release it came out in 2003 before Crisis suits were a thingGod damn.
>>737216347Can't wait for Total War Warhammer 40k and Dawn of War 4! They'll totally be good right?
>>737216529
>>737216347Imagine posting an off-model Tau. They are flat, ya fuck.
>>737216879by 4chan standards that is flat
>>737216879They are cow people. The milkers are canon.
>>737216681>TWW:40kIt will be unplayable shit for the first year of release and slowly become good over the course of several expansions.
>>737216879nobody cares about on model tau
>>737217057It'll be good for 3 years then they'll release a dogshit expansion that tanks the entire game's rep
>>737216347this will devolve into a porn thread, huh?
>>737217084i care
>>737217914I do like the battlesuits but it sucks that they Tau have all these auxiliaries and only of fractino of them have models and by far the best way to run Tau is to basically just not use them at all.
>>737216538Crisis suits (also Stealths and Broadsides) were all in the original 3rd ed Tau codex back when they first released in 2001, anon.
>>737217057Expansion years:>Year 1Chaos MarinesDark Eldar SororitasUnique SM chapter (DA, SW, BA, etc)>Year 2TauMechanicus NecronUnique SM chapter (DA, SW, BA, etc)>Year 3VotannDark EldarTyranidsUnique SM chapter (DA, SW, BA, etc)
>>737218137Fuck I meant Riptides.
>>737218246Riptides are fucking retarded, they're just more scale creep shit. 40k becoming bootleg Epic with everyone dropping Baneblades, titans and flyers on the board was one of the worst things that happened to it.
>>737216681Dawn of war maybe, depends how much the devs learnt from iron harvestTotal war is dead on arrival because it's also on console
>>737216681Total war 40K will be dogshit since they want to pander to consolefags DoW4 MIGHT be okay.
>>737218590Play lower point games.
>>737218174your timeline is a bit off matechange 'year' to 'game'
>>737218787>consolefagsFuck I forgot about this. It's doomed isn't it?
>>737222065TWW40K is 100% doomed.I'm cautiously optimistic for DoW4 though, from what I've read from early playtesters, it doesn't sound bad at all. The direction they're taking is solid so long as they don't shit the bed.
>>737221938They're not doing multiple games again. That shit fucked them over bigly.
>>737216681DoW4 might be decent, Total War 40k is probably going to be a shitshow simply because CA is ass
Will I be able to play as my boys in the new 40k games? I love me guard
>>737217914ok
>>737223716TWW:40k I think yes, but DoW4 no.
>>737216347that's the best Tau fags deserve
>>737225619Rude.
Tau just look like Phantom Menace aesthetics army with mecha plopped in 40k. even has that Droid piss yellow colour scheme and floating tanks
>>737218038What if I told you that Dark Crusade of all games gave the auxiliries the best showing by both having the Kroot be solid melee infantry, and the Vespid being perfect harassers from early game to end game? It even made their super unit the Greater Knarloc. Though at the time, the Tau didn't have the bigger suits yet, and the Manta Gunship wouldn't appear until Soulstorm. 4th edition really emphasized the Tau as a conglomerate of races than just the Tau oddly enough.
>>737216347Sadly, Fire Warrior isn't underrated. We just happily remember it as one of the few games to not be marinewank, even if everything else about the game was as generic as possible.
>>737226382It doesn't help that even for a shooter of it's day and age, it wasn't very good.
Oh man i remember pirating this game when it was new. I loved that it wasn't marines. The guns felt accurate to the lore but damn, it was not a very good game. they did eventually make a miniature of the sniper rifle from the game.
>>737216347Hey what was that one 40K fangame where you made a chapter or chose a pre-existing one, then you went to different planets to fight orks and tyranids and such? You could also be labeled a heretic and have to deal with the rest of the Imperium coming after you.
>>737226605Chapter Master, and it was shut down because of copyright if I recall correctly.
>>737226715Damn, that sucks. That game was fun.
>>737226382>not marinewank>is shitIt was a sign.
>>737223716Would a Battlefield but 40k work?
>>737229606They tried that, it was called Eternal War, and it failed horribly.
>>737229663that isn't even close
>>737216347>Play Warhammer game>It's overrated dogshit Many such casesWarhammer has nothing going for it. It's a meme franchise.
Part of me hopes if enough people buy this busted ass game we'll get a Fire Warrior remake
Why is there no 40k smut? Come on, there must be one slutty tau female who is willing to test mating with chad thundercock
>>737231278>Why is there no 40k smut?Is this a joke?
>>737231278>Why is there no 40k smut?
>>737218174>Mechanicus>Year 2They're going to be a day one patch, GW is pushing them hard as fuckAdded as a new companion in Rogue Trader, starting faction for DoW4, Darktide is supposedly getting a mechanicus class next
>>737231278Do you mean official smut?
>>737231447Why would a Harlequin want to save /our girl/ O'pai?
>>737226213>Tau just feels like a superior franchise shitting all over 40k but officialThat's why they're the best faction
>>737218174Tyranids should be in year 1 as well IMO, not because loads of people want to play as them but because they make an excellent bad guy NPC faction to help fill out the map. The game is definitely going to feel extremely barebones on launch and doubly so for anyone playing Space Marines or Guard (which I imagine is going to be most people by a pretty big margin).
>>737231321>>737231390WHERELEAD ME TO THE SLAUGHTER
>>737217914I dislike how vibrantly yellow a lot of people paint their T'au. For any semblance of believability in their camouflage and scheme, subdued yellow ochre that leans into khaki looks much better.
>>737231593I wouldn't say "save" more like "secure the ballistics".
>>737216538are you retarded?
>>737231749That does make more sense.
>>737226605Chapter Master, game has always had a rollercoaster development since /tg/ is a shit-tier board that can't even do the basic of getting a devteam together. Fucking /v/ manages to do it but those troglodytes can'tBetween that and the fear of copyright it kept falling apart, but I think it's still trucking along with no meaningful changes to what there was a decade ago
>>737216681>trusting CA after the Hyenas incident
>>737232289>Join the ACK
>>737225987HASHUT MENTIONED
>>737229663You mean Eternal Crusade? Only good idea that game had was making all F2P players Orks.
>>737232379>they did in fact make it in the game
Sa'cea sept best sept.
>>737232423But the daemon ass cannon did not.
>>737231084What would the Imperium do with captured Guevesa? Re-educate, work them to death, or just kill them?
>>737232530traitor scum gets the lasgun
>>737232530Depends on who gets hold of them first. Guard would execute them. Inquisition might interrotorture them first before execution. Church would parade them around for public torture before execution and Mechanicus would torturexecute them or if deemed viable enough for servitorization do that with varying degrees of torture and exectuion.
>>737232530>what would the imperium do with traitorsYou actually have to ask?
for me its 8 foot tall muscular but still with huge tits tomboy fire caste warriors with big futa horsecocks they use to mindbreak, indoctrinate and impregnate sisters of battle and female astra militarum members to the tau empire to create more hybrid gue'vesa auxiliaries so maKKKage can finally be taken https://files.catbox.moe/m1o4ei.pnghttps://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/2876/0051686b67b3556cbb63444096e00c45.jpeg
>>737232506Can't win em all anon.
>>737232686>"For me, it's being a huge cock slurping faggot, here look."
>>737232423they even made it to aos if you count that
>>737232815So glad AoS is dying soon.
>>7372331784th edition has been utter shit but its not dying, just getting another lore refresh since they fucked up this one.
>>737216347They should make a tau samurai warrior who wears a drone as a hat
>>737233669I still have no idea if the Last world rumors are believable. Things like Evil non Cathay sound interesting, but as a whole it sounds kinda stupid
>>737216681I don't think either will be good at release, but the iron harvest devs don't have the cashflow and capital to spend 5 years unfucking the game with updates and expansionscreative assembly on the other hand, do. So after 5-10 years of fixes the total warhammer 40k might actually be playable.
>>737233836It's been 10 years, hundreds of DLC, thousands of patches and 2 sequels and TT:W is still shit, all three of them
>>737218174necrons are the 2nd most popular 40k faction believe it or not
>mfw I keep finding Dreadnoughts older than my entire civilization
>>737233865I didn't say it wouldn't be shit, I said it would be playable
>>737232530Kill them. Gue'vesa are one of the most dangerous things the imperium of man has to deal with as they have the potential to effectively upend the entire system if the knowledge that humans generally live better lives under Tau empire than they do under the imperium ever becomes common place.
>>737233996The average Eldar is older than their entire civilization.
I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF GUE'VESA!
>>737235027We know Farsight.
>>737232686WTF, I love the greater good now?
Reminder that the Tau Empire treats humans living under it's rule better than the Imperium does. Gue'vesa enjoy greater living standards than 99 percent of imperial citizens.
>>737232686
if the emperor truly loved humanity he'd occasionally manifest to a guardsman/gue'la/anyone else directly exposed to tau and say "hey big dog, you can have some xenos poon on me it's all good, go get 'em champ them blue tiddies aint gonna suck themselves"
>>737235795Reject the xeno brothers.
>>737235883Why is the diplomat the one with a scar and an eyepatch? hot
This emperor shit is so gay
>>737235879Broadside just doesn't look right without its big ass artillery cannons.
>>737235949this guy feels like he'd be good at drawing historical art for some reason
>>737235992Anyone who LARPs hard as an imperium/emperor dickrider has probably never read a book or touched a mini and probably gets all their EPIC 40K LORE from AI generated youtube videos and verified accounts from xitter located somewhere in the global south who make a living via generating engagement by posting awful takes.
>>737236097>Imperiumchads never read the shitty books or paid GW even a single cent for the overpriced low quality plasticImperiumGODS can't stop winning
>>737236097lemme guess you worship chaos
>>737221938They are not making this mistake again. They are even backpedaling out of it in TWW. It caused a stupid amount of issues for them, just like for IOI with nuHitman
>>737236097Imperium is fun. Simple as.
>>737216681DoW4 will have cool campaigns to play once after which everyone will uninstall itTW:40K is guaranteed success obviously. It's Chapter Master made real after all, but with actual battles.
>>737236471>DoW4 will have cool campaignsUnless they pull DC/SS/Retribution again
>>737233178With all the rumours saying they are adding unreleased ToW armies, it sounds like wfb revival is the dead one and AoS has to sell its stuff now somehow.GW doesn't like cross vlible models anymore, so if AoS gets Cathy out of nowhere ToW can't have it
>>737235991She's big boss, and you are too.
>>737236471If they were smart they'd add last stand again.That mode was insanely long lasting
>>737216347same devs as microsoft train simulator by the way
>>737216347GW meddling actually works wonders for Fatshit. GW forcing them to make Arbites was a great choice. Now forcing them to make Skitarii is great too. This harkens back to VT2 even where GW blocked Fatshit from simply lazily giving Flail to Warrior Priest which forced them to actually make new weapon that is Flail + Shield instead.The second GW lets obesefish do what they want they relapse and make some mudcore garbage like Hive Scum. If GW forced them to make Darktide by utilizing current model ranges it would be better as well instead of some rejectfaggotry suicide squad memberriesThe contrary is true for Owlcat. GW autism prevents RT from having cool stuff that should have been there like minor Xenos. And of course forces them to make uninspired companions.>>737236801Last Stand is confirmed to be in DoW4. It's one of the first things they confirmed about it actually.
>>737237040What's so bad about Hivecum
>40k>thread is full of goonerswhat went so wrong?
>>737237126We didn't gatekeep hard enough. First we let the secondaries in, then the secondaries let the tertiaries in.
>>737237126>wrongYou mean right?
>>737237213>secondariesPost your figis
>>737237126faptau existed before the majority of this board were born
>>737237126>>737237213Quaternary melty
>>737237106nta but the already strained powercreep went out of control with them. They're squishy enough to not be SoT level OP and have been slightly nerfed, sure, but they have continued the trend that's necessitated yo-yo balancing and health bloat for enemies.Arbites were just a more retard proof Ogryn with a kind of OP sniper rifle.
>>737216347Anon, be real with meHow close is total war 40k going to be to TW warhammer?Like, can we expect to pick up the tau and suddenly the game becomes modded Stellaris?If you pick chaos you slowly infiltrate empires to convert them from inside?I always wanted to get into total war but Warhammer never convinced me to try it
>>737237546>How close is total war 40k going to be to TW warhammer?CA have been making the same basic game for more than 20 years without any significant changes, but this time it'll be even worse because it's being made for consoles too.
>>737237546>CA have been making the same basic game for more than 20 years without any significant changesExcept old games like Rome or Stronghold had better AI. New one have no AI at all
>>737216681>console TW>DoW by Iron Harvest devsboth will be dogshit and I think that's hilarious40kTW is more up in the air because its blatantly all mock up bullshots we've been shown but DoW4 looks like dogshit but with footage that's real
>>737237546Worst case scenario is that everyone just has a basic set of diplomacy options for NAPs, military alliances, amd trades for mutual econ boosting.Depending on how much talent was retained from the WH3 DLC you could potentially see something like the trickster cults for chaos where you basically can establish a secret sub base within an enemy city that you can construct different buildings in to siphon econ amd spread chaos corruption at the risk of being discovered before you're ready to pop out a horde of demons.
>>737237901>Stronghold Fuck Medieval I mean
>>737237998>console TWIt's just same TW. The entire genre is perfectly playable on gamepad.
does anyone have that comic of a human teaching a bunch of milfy tau martial arts?
>>737237901You forgot the old one had actual individual soldiers with models, telling them to scatter against projectiles was usefulWith warslop they're just HP blobs, one of the units on the side of the formation gets hit by a cannonball and your entire frontline explodes into gore because they all share one healthbar
>>737237395That's not a problem with hive scum as a character, that's a problem with Fatshark's retarded gameplay balancing.
>>737234501No, the typical Eldar lifespan is a 1000 years. Farseers are an exception.
>>737238228I don't think typical Farseers live that long what with the whole "turn into crystal after looking into the future too much" thing, it's just that Eldrad screws up people's perception because he's the only Farseer that ever gets mentioned more than once and he's a near-mythical 10,000 year old superbeing.
>>737238176>still repeating eceleb lies
>>737238321No, there are other Farseers in the lore that are thousands of years old, but yes, Eldrad is the extreme exception.
>>737218174What about traitor guards? IG sub factions.
>>737238629only if there are available model lines to sell
I don't like the Tau and I thought it was fucking hilarious how they got bodied so hard in that Exodite animation by not only the Imperium and Alederi but then at the very end the 'hero' of the story gets captured by the Dark Eldar and turned into a cum sock for all eternity.
>>737218038Is that an ethereal?
I hate that this absolute kino scene got spoiled for me on fucking instagram of all places.https://youtu.be/B2j6NWxDyuE
>>737238864>rice hat thingIsn't that usually a water caste thing?
>>737238945That's what you get for not buying the game when it came out and shutting yourself away from all spoilers. There are still games that I am completely unaware of that are story heavy that I've been able to stay away from knowing a single story beat or spoiler. Blame no one but yourself.You said it yourself here 'instagram' well that's your problem for using instagram and not limiting yourself to external sources of potential spoilers.
>>737235883>fenale Tau>taller than a human male
>>737216681There are no bad guys in Warhammer 40k. Only good guys.
>>737238683>"Aeldari">using their GW corpospeak slave name
>>737239196He might be too young to know any other name for them. Bless his retarded heart, he might only know of Space Marines as the Primaris versions.
>aeldari>drukhari>astra militarumGas anyone who uses these terms.
>>737239196>>737239246>Seething about the use of Aeldari>Literally uses eldar in the same post for Dark eldarYou two are getting mad at windmills.
>>737234501>Eldar with gargantuan mega titsReal?
>>737232815the biggest mistake was GW in their infinite "wisdom" deciding that The Burning Legion was a swell choice for a colour scheme
>>737239196>>737239338>mfw the consumeri payporcus try to act tough but still buy the latest primaris left tenants
>>737239369The tabletop model with the biggest tits is an Eldar and it's not even close.
>>737239442>buying Shartmaris>playing past 7th
>>7372395697th edition came out in 2014, that's 12 years ago. Why are you still dicking around if you haven't played WH40K in 12 years?
>>737238945It was funny seeing all the v-tuber sluts getting all hyped and shit over this scene as they were streaming this game.
>>737239442>get recomended some "AntiWoke", "Warhammer is trash now billions must die">it's a nasal voiced zoomer>he plays 8th ed Imperial FistsIt's was like the olden days of Anti SJW's
>>737239357>>Literally uses eldar in the same post for Dark eldarThank you for catching that, I posted it accidentally. I meant to use the official name of Aeldari el Negro
>>737236012You can somehow stuff two of these into a Devilfish in Dawn of War.
>>737239629>playedImagine actually playing the tabletop. It was always shit, regardless of what edition
>>737216347I want to sabotage T'au expasion. I want to reconquistar Imperial worlds and push the fishfaces back to their second sphere territories.I want Roguetrader 2 to be in the Jericho Reach for me to bully septs! And have a watercaste companion.
>>737239715>Imagine actually having played Warhammer 40k that would be cringe>Heh what do you think I do in a thread about Warhammer 40k? Actually play the games? CRINGE!What?
>>737239820I do play the games, the video games. You know this is /video games/, not /transgender/, right?
>>737237546You create your faction like in Age of Wonders/Stellaris selecting traits and suchThen you are greeted with Empire mode meta progression like in AoW: Planetfall https://youtu.be/3gaTx_rUZec?si=WeRQatCRmojeajg3&t=87Then you select your campaign. Those are both premade and procedurally generated ones. No doubt will be similar to current minicampaigns in tabletop (500 Worlds, Maelstrom, Eye of Terror, Armageddon)You can play campaign in a system with up to 10 planets (Soulstorm), just on a planet (Dark Crusade) or just a battleEach of them contributes to meta progression of your factionThis is what Valrak's leaker called Helldivers systemPlanets consist of regions working like all TWs do since Rome 1. Each Planet can be the size of a continent (say Ulthuan is a planet) and those are connected by space you can travel with your fleet. 10 planet system is Immortal Empires sized.Game is essentially a mix of Chapter Master/Age of Wonders and Dawn of War/Empire at War. Not like StellarisSpace Battles may come in a dlc/update after release according to CA
>>737239196Immersive names are superior
>>737239843What 40k vidya have you played? Other than Space Marine 2?
>>737239850If space battles get added at all it'll just be land battles on spaceship themed maps. They'll never bring back "naval" battles, if they didn't do it for TWW which has gigantic oceans and a literal pirate faction then they won't do in 40k.
>>737239672>>737238683Imagine getting salty over Eldar or Aeldari being used, I noticed your use of ESL now it all makes sense.
>>737239923DoW 1 and 2, Mechanicus, tried Boltgun but it sucked, Rogue Trader, Gladius (also sucked), BFG2 and Eternal Crusade
>>737239983No, they already said that Space Battles, as in Battlefleet Gothic battles in void between ships are on the table.TWW map is not designed with naval combat in mind at all, everything is squeezed together to make oceans small with armies being able to conjure ships out of nothingYou have a fleet to command in TW40k again like in Medieval 2. There won't be space battles on launch, they can be added later
>>737239843bideo games are a naturally inferior, purely consumerist medium. Gaymers need to learn their place
>>737216347So with these renewed push for people to play old Warhammer games did they fix the issue of the loading screens flashing by so fast on modern systems you miss half the story?
>>737240041Boltgun was overhyped and then I found out the voice actor was a Jeet it soured me entirely on that game, I will not support Jeets. Eternal Crusade had potential but it kept being fucked and I don't know who to blame for that.
>>737232530Any captured Gue'vesa is going to wish they ate a lasbolt the second the guardsman saw him.
>>737240157They did NOTHING to fix any issues, if you look on the steam pages for the games I don't think they've even added in changeable control scheme for Fire Warrior and some other games.
>>737240112>bored games are a naturally inferior, purely consumerist medium. Gaymers need to learn their placeFTFY
>>737236415Unfortunately the fun parts of the Imperium are rarely dwelt upon in favor of Space Marines and Cadians
>>737240221>They did NOTHING to fix any issuesThat's not true, they added a disclaimer that these old games are too high quality to represent the MODERN VALUES 40k now stands for
>>737240235Tabletop requires talent, effort, commitment and soul. It's a high tier hobbyAll bideo games are cheap, fast, premade slop to purely consume
>>737240273Fuck...
Would you play UmaTau: Harmonious Derby?
>>737239764>Just two more Damocles crusades! It will definetively work this time! Ad mech might steal some new car rims this time! Or new filters to roombas!
>>737238172Found it, same artist as >>737240375
>>737240375I would flay gachafaggots alive
>>737240375>>737240457This artist produces pure slop
>>737239416AoS seems to be a lot of "Lets make some of the best models we've ever sculpted and then market them with the most absolute dogshit color scheme we can think of"All white Elves, neon yellow orcs, OOPS all gold Sigmarines, etc.
>>737240375You guys has really become as annoying as that other horse cartoon fandom back in 2012 you know? Keep it up and we might see /uma/ and another GR in the future.
>>737240517>OOPS all gold SigmarinesThis was also A dumb choice from GW. Even that Silver blue scheme they had for a while was much better.
>>737239697They move slow as fuck on their own, so they need it.
>>737240636Even that Black Gold thing or fuck TEAL ones from the Fatcasts days were a berret choice than weird gold Blue bS
>>737239850I don't trust CA to deliver in the slightest and I'm not sure the building or recruitment systems from past games really suit many 40k factions. The only recruitment systems I really liked from Warhammer were Chaos and to a lesser extent Beastmen and Tombkings. Unit promotion is a great system for the flow of the game and unit caps make it so chaff doesn't become entirely irrelevant.
>>737240517>Lets make some of the best models we've ever sculptedHeavy emphasis on SOME, vast majority of them are overdesigned busy mess.
>>737241001Such as?
>>737241113Literally anything from the dwarf roster
Tabletop isn't /v/ - Video GamesFuck off back to /tg/ Don't care about your overpriced ugly looking figis
>>737241241Sex with cultist chan.
>>737220525But they made muh green tide like 800 gorillion points.
>>737241232Hmm, fair, I set the bar too low. That's on me.
>>737241241Then why'd you bump the thread?
>>737241113The skeleton men, ossirach bonereapers or whatever they are called and cow elfs to start with.
>>737240456Tau were cool until GW decided that because they have a tabletop army they MUST be able to hang with the full might of the setting's big boys while still being a teeny tiny little empire that can't field huge fleets or armies resulting in repeated massive asspulls. They were much more fun when they were representative of the tiny xenos empires the lore says are all over the place but hardly ever get mentioned or explored, skating by in a galaxy full of vast incomprehensible forces through a combination of being highly dynamic and much tougher than they look but also being small enough that there's always a more important target or threat for the other factions to deal with.
>>737241537The whole lore is built around asspulls across the board.
>>737241645It is now, yeah, but the writers were much more restrained back in the good ol' days of... two decades ago. Fuck.
>>737241724At least since 4th edition.
>>737241645The Black Library was a mistake
>>737241537>>737241724>>737241909its strange to think that this IP of all IPs once had some level of restraint that we can see is now visibly missing but here we are
>>737241537Nowadays it's fine. At this point the T'au are the same size as Ultramar, which due to it's relative Cohesion and development was thought to be able to perpetually endure an attack from the Traitors during the Horus Heresy even if the traitors won at Terra and "consolidated" most of the Imoerium under Horus.A single Necron Tomb World waking up can snatch huge swathes of territory thanks to their tech and the authority of the Phaeron. So I'm fine with T'au being able to hold out atbthis point.
>>737241909The Horus Heresy novels, specifically, are directly responsible for much of the absolute state of modern 40k. The pseudo-capeshit approach where absolutely everything revolves around big named heroes and whenever two forces meet their big named heroes MUST have a personal one-on-one confrontation that ends indecisively because they're obviously not allowed to kill anyone off comes directly from years and years of people wanking off the primarchs in the HH books.
>>737232530Just kill them. The heretic can be redeemed in death. The traitor is damned forever.
>>737235795I feel like human tau subjects should be a larger part of the setting, although if we're thinking like the aeon or other cases of this trope it's sort of disrupted by the tau just being here queer and used to it rather than being some sort of extinct or reclusive alien prophets. but like, what happens to humans when they're not living under the empire or being corrupted to tooth-anused rapemurderrapists by chaos
>>737237126It's just one taunigger shitting up the board
>>737241437If anything Ossiarch are incredibly restrained. One of their core units is basically a 35 year old Tyramid model, their ghosts are purposley "retro" ones from late 2000s when GW re-did ghosts in 2019.Only wild thing is that the sculptor was a dentis by trade before working for GW and he insisted on exagorated smiles
>>737242119Loyalist Primarchs coming back is definitely bad for the setting but since Daemon Primarchs had always been a thing for so long and at times had been pretty active like at Armageddon it felt somewhat inevitable. Hell, even the focus of the setting resting so heavily on the Space Marines instead of the human element of the Imperium was indicative of a rot setting in.
>>737232289>The incident that resulted in multiple firings in upper managementI think it's safe to say with this and the way they're showcasing Medieval 3 that some things have changed for the better
>>737242702>multiple firings in upper managementlol no there wasn't. They fired a bunch of underlings. Probably the ones who were the loudest critics of Hyenas for not being "team players"
>>737216878kek>>737216879Somehow she looks flat until you look closer
>>73724254640k would have been better served if the narrative focus of the setting rested more on the Inquisition and Rogue Traders of different factions presenting lore more as theories, redacted reports, and exagerated propaganda.Instead we have official lore drinking it's own Kool-aid and presenting Marines accomplishing retarded shit.
>>737231723Somehow I feel that battle suits, like most space marines, aren't meant for stealth.
How do we feel about Boltgun
>>737243457An OK Boomer shooter(Bleh) with a Protag who is way overmemed in the "fandom". (Think DOOMGUY levels of retardation but somehow even more obnoxious) Snach it up on a sale if you like the genre.
>>737243457It's boring.
>>737231723Lore wise T'au apply camouflage to their armor based on the battlefield on the fly or use straight up camouflage projectors that make them pretty much invisible. When you see T'au in Sept colors it's because they're acting as a rapid strike force where unit cohesion and visibility is more important than staying hidden.
>>737242119Back in 4th edition Ghazghkull's invasion force during the Third War for Armageddon was stated to be the largest fleet to ever attack an Imperial planet and that Battlefleet Armageddon and supporting Space Marine vessels were outnumbered six to one, which meant that Ghazghkull's fleet probably numbered in the hundreds of vessels - at the time space stuff was remarkably restrained and Battlefleet Gothic (which was still actively supported by GW back then) was heavily inspired by real life naval history and presented fights involving dozens of capital ships on each side as major naval engagements that were sometimes turning points in Black Crusade-level conflicts.Fast forwards to today, and recent fluff states that Ghazghkull is leading a fleet of FIVE MILLION ships. It's completely lost all sense of scale to the point where things have just become completely meaningless.
>>737243457A good enough DOOMwad if you like 40k, but nothing awe inspiring for the genre when it comes to maps, enemies, or guns. Bonus point for dedicated Taunt button.
>>737239196>Implying aeldaerai deserve respectThey're NPCs made to be slaughtered en masse.
>>737243457One of the most uninspired games i've ever played. Technically competent, but extremely by-the-numbers and has some truly awful levels. The Big Funny Elevator is one of the worst levels in any shooter. Just another retro FPS except it warhammer stickers on it, so people glazed it
>>737240375This guy's latest 40k piece is an Eldar trap getting assfucked.
>>737243649Scale wise I think the later number makes more sense in regards to space, given it's the biggest fleet of the biggest ork during it's biggest war. It's not like it's 5 million Roks, but all manner of random ork crap. But it doesn't work for 40k itself. 40k has always had stupidly low numbers being applied to galactic scale conflicts, particularly in regards to space combat.
>>737243649>It's completely lost all sense of scale to the point where things have just become completely meaninglessFirst time in 40K? Remember Siedge of Vraks?How one account goes that a million shells were fired during a major, week-long offensive. Sounds like a lot, until you learn that the Battle of Verdun had that many shells fired within the first HOUR of fighting. GW is retarded in a Sence of scale. Really many scifi writers are.
>>737243918Figured he was a massive fag.
>>737229551Rites of War is alright and that a game entirely about the Eldar
>>737244261I feel like the people who say this haven't played Rites of War.Rites of War is essentially cock and ball torture made into a video game.
>>737216347Why are the space aliens from fuck off planet humans from the neck down
>>737216347where the fuck can i find more mossa artwork, he made his twitter private
>>737216681Orks are pure
Why are the Tau being shilled so hard?They look stupid and their armor is gay.
>>737244473Xenosfags are desperate for attention.
>>737243457Their Starship Troopers game is better
>>737244518They could pick any other xeno, why the noseless communists?
RememberTau diplomats make perfect IEDs thanks to the increased storage capacity in the chest.
>>737244591porn addiction
>>737244591they're cool
>>737244591They are>heavy asian inspired>use mechas (because GW wanted to capitalise on Jap craze that was going araun that time)>are one of more original (if you ignore that Tau resemble the protagonist KYNE from the Amiga video game Brataccas) races GW did so they are recognisable>still look humanoidAlso SexualYeti was kind of a trailblazer in terms of tau art as he was one of the eariest ones to do good smut of them (plus he originated from /tg/)
>>737244536It looked way worse and way more boring from what I saw. Though maybe we're looking for different things in rooty tooty point and shooty game.
Is taussy Y shaped
>>737244591Because>Orks are boring and one-note>Necrons are divisive after their retcon>Tyranids are boring and one-note>Dark Eldar are boring and one-note, and nobody likes them anyways>Eldar are a joke faction that people only like for porn, and mostly hate them outside of porn>Genestealers are a nobody factionTau are blue and have porn. That's basically it. All xenos factions are shitty NPCs but Tau are the most fuckable.
>>737244894Tau society itself is very assexual so they demand lewding more than eldars.
>>737245069>>Eldar are a joke faction that people only like for pornTo be fair they've always been extremely powerful on the tabletop but their lore is genuinely some of the worst shit ever written for 40k.
>>737245069>t. Retarded marinepiggy/tertiary
>>737245149>To be fair they've always been extremely powerful on the tabletop but their lore is genuinely some of the worst shit ever written for 40k.Anon that's why people hate them. Eldar rules are retardedly broken but their lore is laughably bad, meaning anyone who actually plays Eldar is only doing so for the OP rules rather than a genuine love for the faction.
>>73724515740k exists because of Marines, cope and seethe.
>>737239820SEVATAR, YA CUNT
>>737244591Because the tau are cool. Xenos in general are far more interesting and cooler design wise than the imperial slop is.
>>737245149Eldar problem is that hey have all this stuff going for them that in other settings it would fill a giant storyline in of itselfs.But because GW want to keep making money they have to be extremely carefull (or dumb) in going abaut advancing the story line. But because Eldar are filled with these tidbits that would to so, but would do so in a Too radical way. They get extramely retarded solutions.
>>737244591Tau were tailor-made to be a weeb-coded faction to attract Japanese players
>>737244294i think it depends on how much you like the Eldar and don't mind Panzer General games but Armageddon is the better PG clone with the 40k license
>>737245149Retarded take. The eldar have fantastic lore, the only people who think that eldar lore is shit are subhumans that read BL slop and conflate that with the lore of the factions. Faction lore is found in Codexes and campaign books, not in the lowest common denominator garbage Black Library pumps out.>>737245213These "eldar haters" only exists in your fucking head. The Eldar are consistently one of the more popular xenos races in 40k and no matter how much your autistic coping and seething will change this. Remember when you insisted that the Eldar would never make an appearance in 40k vidya again last year.>inb4 you deny being the resident autistic nigger that always tries to shit up the thread when xenos are discussed.I recognize your posting style, no use in denial.
>>737245383It's what happens when you give them a storyline that deals with fixed aspects of the setting. You KNOW they ain't gonna do shit to Slaanesh because it's one of the four pillars of Chaos. Hell, a new Eldar god was born and that still somehow became only a footnote.
>>737245330>Xenos in general are far more interesting and cooler design wise than the imperial slop is.Incorrect.
How can we fix Fagdar?
>>737245487Look. All I'm gonna say is thank fuck for Combat Patrols and Kill Teams or some factions would never get any model updates.
>>737240457>ywn get pinned to the ground and grappled (groped) by a group of pent-up tau milfswhy bother
>>737245487>These "eldar haters" only exists in your fucking headShut the fuck up, Noldorfag. You don't know jack shit about tabletop, you own no models, and you got all your lore through a fucking wiki. Eldar barely manage to scrape up more attention than the fucking Tau, who are nearly bottom of the barrel as is.>>737245553You don't. They're not worth the effort of fixing.
>>737245487lmao I fucking knew you'd be in this thread
>>737245515>Slaanesh because it's one of the four pillars of ChaosAnd when they sorta did. And replaced her/him/it with Great Horned Rat. They still kept the units and shit. Fuck it's still trapped but now aperentally their daughtres now run abaut and it's heavly impiled that it's freeing itself. So...
>>737242424>I feel like this pointless and meaningless fluff of this insignificant and practically DEAD AND FORGOTTEN faction on the toy line should be a larger part of the settingI like your numbers
>>737245662I'm not noldorfag you autistic nigger. Picture related are my models as well. I know more about the tabletop than you do because you are clearly a fucking tertiary retard that in no way engages with the primary aspect of the hobby which is collecting and playing with miniatures. I've never seen you post your models despite your autistic ass haunting 40k threads on /v/ for years at this point.
>>737237998>console TWIt changes literally nothing, consoles are just PCs nowadays. They'll make a command wheel and call it a day.
>>737245810If you presume me to be noldorfag like that other autistic retard does, then you are wrong. You subhumans have no fucking clue who noldorfag even is and how he behaves, you just throw that label at anyone who pushes against your retarded views about the Eldar.
>>737246154Hell I wish Noldorfag started these threads instead if the faptaufag
>>737245520ah, to be 12 again..
>>737246212The wholesome elf general threads on /tg/ have propably kept him busy for a while now.
>>737245520>anons coolest aesthetic is just "dudes in armour"It's the same shtick as Brettonia from WHF and They still do it better.
>>737245620The new corsair kits are fucking fantastic imo.I'd pay good money for an Eldar Corsair prince game that allowed me to play as smug and arrogant space elf pirate and pillage ships of lesser races as I please.
How would you alter Iron Hands lore to make them less retarded? At the very least move away from even the Iron Hands not liking the Iron Hands.
>>737246387>Sid Meiers Corsairs!I'd play the hell out if it.
>>737246536can't be any worse than Man o' War Cosair
>>737232686>for me its 8 foot tall muscular but still with huge tits tomboy fire caste warriors with big futa horsecocks they use to mindbreak, indoctrinate and impregnate sisters of battle and female astra militarum members
We have cum to you
>>737245487Based
>>737218038Yeah the Kroot get a decent amount of spotlight but when was the last time anybody gave a fuck about the VespidsIt's a shame
>>737225987That's ridiculously fucking gay.
>>737246536In my mind, the game would be some sort of combination of naval combat and xcom style combat during the raids with your warband. Additional elements to the game would involve managing relations with both Craftworlds, rival corsair bands, Kabals from the Dark City and also perhaps human factions like Rogue Traders, imperial worlds and what not, as well as the ability to recruit Eldar from all the different factions of Eldar race to your warband, along with being able to access their wargear from both Craftworlds and Dark Eldar.Different background choises for your Corsair prince could also involve stuff like relations boosts with your home craftworld (or perhaps negative relations if you left in disgrace), as well atribute tweaks depending on if your roots are on a craftworld or in the Dark City etc.The idea basically being a that you lead a small warband of pirates into a full scale grand corsair fleet as you rise in power and wealth. In my view, this sort of game would allow you to do a really good overall exploration of the Eldar in video game format due to the overlap the Corsairs have with all the different factions of the Eldar.
>>737241241Why are you gay?
>>737216347>no good story driven single player FPS in the 40k universePain.
>>737247231>good story driven single player FPS
>>737247302>good story driven single player FPSThey exist.
>>737232815i don't
>>737240241i hate canadians so much
>>7372436495 millions makes sense if you count Ork fighter escorts and not just carriers and capital terror ship.
I was first introduced to warhammer in the 3rd or 4th edition when my friend showed me this pamphlet which glossed over the game and all of its factions. browsing through it i saw elves wearing leather jackets and riding chopper style jetbikes and went: yup this is my faction.unfortunately the newer models aren't as cool and the eldar pilots don't wear leather jackets anymore.
>>737247753>the eldar pilots don't wear leather jackets anymore.They do
>>737247345ehhhit hasn't aged that well
>>737238683>the 'hero' of the story gets captured by the Dark Eldar and turned into a cum sock for all eternity.I like the T'au, and I think that's the hottest shit ever
>>737247963YOU haven't age well, zoomie.
>>737248095I played it on release homedog
>>737244964You need a three-pronged dick to full satisfy her.
>>737244964Yeah, and they have two clits.
>>737248095fear is a zoomer gameit's a shallow, cinematic, linear popamole
>>737247963>it hasn't aged that wellThe story might be a bit unimpressive, but the gunplay, visuals, and level design is definitely still pretty great.
>>737245991I mean, 40k is such a incoherent toybox of concepts (aside from the consistent themes of grimdarkness and war) that the concept of humans that follow alien teachings, which IS a really big trope with stuff both like the aeon and general ufology/occultism being so underused is a little curious. if there wasn't anything at all, that would make sense to not include it, but since one of the taus defining features relating to the imperium is that they actually incorporate humans into their empire the underuse is curious. not like a huge part of the setting, but made like twice as common and twenty times as interesting. then again the tau are pretty lame
>>737234501Christ, there are so many faggot artists drawing 40k shit.
>>737248287>The story might be a bit unimpressive,So it's a bad example of a story-driven single-player FPS game, then isn't it?
>>737243649>massive galaxywide empire>less than 1000 ships is enough to threaten itAlmost as retarded as a space marine chapter only having a thousand SMs in it and still somehow being able to get shit done on a galaxywide scale when realistically they wouldn't be able to impact more than a tenth of a single planet with a force that small, regardless of their (arguable) superiority in technology and tactics The numbers and logistics of 40k were always retarded, the only thing that changed is now they jumped from "too small to make any sense for a galactic level civilizations" to "too big for their focus on singular characters changing the tide to be plausible". Though the chinese have been doing that with Three Kingdoms and cultivationslop and those are popular, so maybe GW just needs to embrace that they're writing the western equivalent of that and fully commit to the powerscaling garbage where we discuss which Primarch can destroy the most planets with just his fists
>>737243240careful, we can't have such nuancethe average marvelslop enjoyer wouldn't know what to think!
>>737246080>primary aspect of the hobby which is collecting and playing with miniatureTabletop xisters actually believe this lmao
>>737246154nta but it's funny that I can tell at this point if it's the noldorfag or you, because the former has no idea about the actual tabletop game, only the eldar lore
>>737248629GW believes it as well, that is why videogames etc are treated as adverts for the tabletop by GW.
>>737248439>So it's a bad example of a story-driven single-player FPS game, then isn't it?The story just has to contextualize the gameplay.It does a good enough job of that.The point of a story driven FPS is that it's meant to immerse the player in the perspective of the character your playing as.It's a bit unintuitive, but it's the difference between something like how call of duty does a story, and how something like half life does.Both stories are pretty unimpressive, but one actually feels interesting to play through due to how your part in that story is contextualized.
>>737240517I've spent more on AOS than 40k knowing I'll never get the chance to play. I don't care, I'm not letting these sculpts go to waste. AOS will eventually be good, GW obviously cares a lot about it.
>>737217914that is fukken CRISP
>>737248927Horrible fingers
>>737248927AoS seems to be doing well. Not 40k well but quite a lot better than Fantasy was before Endtimes.
>>737248927>AOS will eventually be goodanon therer blowing up AoS for The Last World next edition
>>737248836>make a better product to advertise the shittier oneWeird marketing
>>737248571>>737243240>setting would be better if you make it 100% some bullshit only I like!!
>>737244332Instagram
>>737246219Nothing is stopping you from making your own space elf setting
>>737249102Yeah.
>>737249159please no, instagram is functionally the worst website I've used in my life, my national IRS website is better
>>737248927Is that glossy paint or are you really good at highlighting?
>>737249374He's also on Bluesky, I think but that hasn't been updated for a week or two now
>>737249429>Mossa on BluskyThat's hilarious
>>737244536No it isn't.
>>737248927I've spent zero on either
>>737249396I'm terrible at highlighting, this is simply Khorne Red as a basecoat and Blood for the blood god technical paint to act as a glossy varnish. I learned this from fucking around and it's the easiest shit. Nighthaunt are already the easiest minis to paint anyway but with this technique I can paint a dozen in a couple minutes >>737249068I did say eventually. The infinite realms shit was never good. I'm in favor of blowing the gay shit shit and making a single map
>>737241537Yeah, one asspull after another and then Mugulath bay happened, this where geedubs lost me with their shitty writing.
>>737249374Following an artist on twitter is the most retarded shit you can do. they spend 90% of their feed posting memes and replying to other posts, 1% on posting art, then 9% on reposting OTHER artists.
>>737246081Exept it requires everything to be discernible from couch to TV distance.
what is it about the Tau that they mindbreak imperial fags so much?
>>737249897They need to cope with the fact that Tau udders make their wieners twitch.
>>737249897They do not fit the fucking setting with their weeb aesthetics that clash with the grimdark setting.
>>737249897They are everything a HFYfag would want to be but they are cursed to be gay retard cavemen with handmedown super relics in 40k instead. The cognitive dissonance is tearing them apart.
>>737250006the grimdark setting with mongolian motorcycle marines and half naked elves riding dinosaurs?
>>737249058I think it's a good setting, and better minis than 40k, but it's not perfected yet. We still need>a single geographic region that players feel invested in rather than vague infinite bullshit>a decent novel >Stormcast with any other helmets >A video game that's not complete dogshit
>>737250053HFYfag here, I think Imperium does HFY justice when it wants to instead of being busy with grimderp
>>737250126>a single geographic region that players feel invested in rather than vague infinite bullshitThat's what The Great Parch is meant to be, but GW just blew up half of it for 4e, so it's not worth it getting invested in an area
this thread lacks in greater good
>>737249897>Spam shit>WTF why people hate melol
>>737247231>Get Boltgun>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT THERE'S TOO MUCH SHOOTYYou people don't know what you want
>>737216965Whatever you say, bud.
>>737249897They're literally the exact same shit as the dragon courts in Total War. A shameless cashgrab to appeal to asians, so they aesthetically and tonally clash with the rest of the setting.Comparing the Empire humans or Bretonnians and how the setting loves how gritty and imperfect their kingdoms are, Not!china looks like a studio ghibli cartoon, their system seems to be working just fine, their armor is colourful, and they have zero problems with chaos.You can apply the same description to Tau and it's the same problem. They are just to sell toys to asians, they lack the tonal grit of other factions. Space elves are Tragic and cool, Humans are Brutal and cool, Orks relish in the brutality of the setting, Chaos makes things worse and that's cool.Somehow Tau have zero problems and their fanbase use it to say "they're objectively the best faction because they're unproblematic" when what they really are is underwritten.
>>737250443>BoltgunIt's not really the same thing.It's a fun boomer shooter sure.
>>737250207They're doing a soft reboot in 5th edition where the entire setting takes place on "the last world". Or so the rumors go. They don't even need a whole planet, they just need a Sword Coast sized area
>>737250126>I think it's a good settingI thought the main complaint about Sigmar was that it was a dogshit setting that got rid of everything everyone liked?
>actually replying to a smegmar troglodyte
>>737249897Imperialtards is the worst part of 40k tardbase.
>>737250228>Create a mock television screencap captured with all the grain and artifacts of old cartoons>save it as a pngThis rustles my autism more than any of the lore shit in this thread
>>737250482why would you admit being a lorelet? why would you embarrass yourself like that?
>>737250482>so they aesthetically and tonally clash with the rest of the settingPeople who say this are colossal fucking retards that basically whine that non imperial factions dare to have a different aesthetic from the imperium/chaos shit.By the same logic basically all xenos factions besides perhaps the orks "clash" tonally and aesthetically with the "rest of the setting".The issue basically is that these dipshits think that 40k = the Imperium.
>>737250592If Total War warhammer and Virmintide never existed nobody would have fucking cared they axed the setting because it was completely dead. At the end of the day, GW cares about primary fans, people who buy the minis. Interest in Video games only matters IF it brings in new toy customers. So "got rid of everything everyone liked" accounts for like 12 guys and video game fans. AOS is still new, it's building up a fanbase, discarding what sucks and keeping what works. ignoring the video games, Warhammer fantasy fans fucking suck, they're crusty grognard boomers who were the type to bitch you out over playing an army with the wrong heraldry or incorrect units in a formation. Nobody played it, nobody enjoyed it.
>>737250707it's sloppa so it doesn't matter
>>737250482Tau was before GW was trying to appeal to the Asian market. When they were introduced Britain still had a bigger economy than China. The flaw of the Tau has always been the same, they are a minor faction that are smaller even than some non-playable xeno empires. Whereas Cathay are presented as the largest and most powerful human faction.
>>737250482They are the foil and (potential) successor to IoM, just like Old Ones, Necrons, Eldar and Golden Age humans were prior to them. They are the rising star to the fading old empire. All those mentioned before got to have their asspullfiesta of conquering the galaxy in all its glory and seemingly be incorruptable for a while. And just like all of them, the tau will too fall if they ever manage to reach the apex.
>>737250907>AOS is still newIt's been a decade, you can't say it's a new thing anymore that is still building it's audaince
>>737250843>>737250828The Imperium IS 40k. Do I really have to spell it out to you fags? I hate to ruin your day with this, but xenosfags don't even match a single space marine chapter.There's enough space marine fans to start an entirely new toyline that focuses entirely on a space marine civil war, and have it run alongside the 40k tourneys. You can enjoy xenos, but there isn't enough of you to buy enough models to equal half of the imperium. The idea of xenos fags calling me a lorelet is hilarious. you're a a faggot who has a few paragraphs of "lore" and you're building your entire personality and interest in the setting off that.
>>737249897For people who play the game, very generally speaking, the core philosophy of an army designed to be a leaf blower army isn't fun to play against. You delete the opponent before they can do anything or they reach you and you get slaughtered. The next reason is that they have attracted a player base that are historically insufferable WAACfags and those desperately clinging to the idea that they are a bright beacon of good in contrast to an evil Imperium and hopeless galaxy, which goes against the spirit of the game.Third, look around this thread. No one here actually likes T'au. You like blue anime aliens in bikini mechs that want human boyfriends. That's fine, but there is no connection to 40k whatsoever. You could change the franchise to literally any other sci-fi setting and nothing about what you like would change, yet you insist on constantly forcing it into warhammer. It's annoying.
>>737251039I always liked the idea that each successive rising empire goes through the motions faster than the last, and that the Tau, through whatever manipulation got them to their current point, are basically speed running the whole thing.
>>737251135>The Imperium IS 40k. Wrong.Even at the earliest stages of 40k, in rogue trader era, the Eldar, the Orks and the Tyranids were a thing. 40k has always been about more than just the imperium. Hell, chaos shit wasn't even part of 40k at the beginning, it was about the authoritarian decadent shitheap imperium fighting against various xenos foes and internal uprisings.
>>73725112440k is 4 decades, DnD is 5 decades.Tabletop popularity is like an inverse of video games, they got more popular as time goes on. Just because it had a rocky start for the first 5 doesn't mean anything since it now equates to 20% of GW's revenue. within a Decade it has grown significantly. Give it another Decade of fine tuning and it will be a household name.
>>737251135so you are doubling down on being a lorelet?
>>737251297This is getting really sad, anon.
>>737251140you are hillariously wrong. tau are not the army with the best shooting and they havent been meta for years.WAACfags play eldar and space marines, tertiary.
>>737251124NTA but its been closer to 5-6 years internally. Its existed for 10 years, yes, but it has never been considered as a potential core until 2nd edition, and even then it didnt get anything close to that treatment until third edition where covid ended up fucking gw in general up, output wise.
>>737251324Oh sorry does the xenofag got another paragraph of lore you wanna share? Am I really missing something big here?>>737251260In the earliest stagesThat was then, this is now. Then, space marines were ex convicts thrown into power armor. Now they're holy space nights crusading.Evoking old retcon lore means nothing.
Personally I have always found the standard crisis, broadside and stealth battlesuits plus tau tanks very cool. I hate the big suits tho. Ghostkeel suits are about the maximum of battlesuit size I still like.
>>737251135>The Imperium IS 40kDisgusting post.
>737251135>737251485this is the most blatant ragebait i've ever seendon't bother replying to this guy
>>737250482The Tau were designed to appeal to westerners at a time where anime and mecha was starting to enter properly mainstream in nerd culture. GW never expected Tau to sell particularly well in Japan and they never did; the cultures are flipped so the Imperials with all their exaggerated gothic European-ness are the exotic foreign ones while the Tau are "we have anime at home"-tier to Japanese nerds.
>>737251385is acting like a sassy queer your way of disengaging from the conversation?
>>737251485>he still knows nothing about the settingkekw
>>737251260>Even at the earliest stages of 40k, in rogue trader era, the Eldar, the Orks and the Tyranids were a thing.Yes, as things for the Imperium to shoot at.Things haven't change so much since then.
>>737251667Still waiting on you to tell me kek
>>737250843nta, that's cope, all the other factions are essentially just sci-fi variants of classic fantasy races and fit together nicely.>space humans>space orcs>space elves>space dark elves>space demons>space undead/cryptkeeperYou are lying to yourself if you pretend that blue aliens in ching chong mechs don't stick out like a sore thumb. Even the tyranids feel less alien to 40k than the Tau.
>>737242424>I feel like human tau subjects should be a larger part of the settingThey are though, the massive influx of humans and them believing in the Greater Good, and being extremely psychically tuned, boosted the Tau'va to become a manifestation that exists within the warp.
>>737251794I prefer the interpretations where a bunch of the arms are human/vespid/kroot ones.
>>737251749Nice how you completely ignore the tyranids for your comparison to make even a lick of sense. 40k has never limited itself to being just fantasy in space. It also takes wide range of influneces from scifi. Necromunda for example and especially everything related to Admech are heavily influenced by cyberpunk tropes, Tyranids are heavily drawn from Xenomorphs, and Tau take after a lot of mecha influence.Thinking that these non fantasy influences are "not valid" for 40k just showcases your own retardation and some sort of imbecilic drive to limit 40k to your own comfort zone.
We need a Fire Warrior 2, bros, or at least a modern reintroduction to the old game. One where you can play as an auxiliary variant, even a Gue'vesa piloting a stealth suit.
>>737251735just keep up with the latest developments, teritary lol
>>737250006these guys are just the ice planet legos. they even have the orange transparent chainsaws.
>>737251749>You are lying to yourself if you pretend that blue aliens in ching chong mechs don't stick out like a sore thumb.They don't. Also the humans before dark age were technologically advanced with different aesthetics.
>>737252001>You know nothing of Xenos lore!>ok what am I missing?>so much>so tell me>no
>>737251794Tau turning into side characters in their own lore is funniest shit ever. The fate of the entire faction now rests on the shoulders of the humans in the tau empire.
>>737252084Sounds based
>>737244591They are a species for the people! They have a waifu for all tastes and pleasures!
>>737251647>half-aeldari
>>737216347Logged 4 hours in Fire Warrior this afternoon and MAN that is a rough game. I think that even in 2003 it must've rough to play holy shit, it's like a step above the original Doom. Lots of great art direction despite the poor graphics, fighting across a battlefield littered with Leman Russ tanks and charging the bridge of an imperial ship all feel authentic. I'd love a modern Fire Warrior game with some actually game design, throw in a mission where you have to control a battlesuit or charge a frontline with the kroot and a Gnarloc. Plus it would be funny to watch secondaries start screaming because the Imperium are the bad guys
how come Roblox Girlyman gets a cute xeno gf but I can't have a blueberry wife
>>737236405What was that about?First I've heard of it
>>737251135I know this is /v/ but the response to this still disappoint me.The thing that currently fuels modern GW as a whole is Space Marine models and Imperium media.They tried giving the Eldar a new plot. It failed.They tried giving the Tau a new plot. It failed.They tried to make the Necrons more important. Nobody cared.Most recently they tried to make the Tyranids a big threat. They stopped pretty fast when it was apparent nobody cared about then.Xenos do not drive sales. Humans do. The Imperium are the protagonists of the setting and Marines are at the head. Xenos exist solely for the benefit of providing filler conflicts when GW needs to build up a new Chaos threat.
>>737252418Yeah, it was bad at the time as well
>>737252390Aren't an actual thing in 40k canon outside of genetically engineered hybrids made in a lab.Humans and eldar can't interbreed afterall, due to eldar being space aliens that existed millions of years before humanity even evolved. The only half eldar ever mentioned in 40k was during the rogue trader era when the lore of the eldar was still in it's infancy, and the later editions entirely retconned him out of the setting.Funnily enough, in one of the more recent BL novels the retconning went to the point of an eldar farseer with his exact name was introduced as liason to Guilliman from Uthwe. That way the idea/character was kind of "reinvented" to fit into modern 40k.
>>737249102just buy your next box of some new primaris version, piggie
>>737236405>They are even backpedaling out of it in TWW.no they arent
>>737251976>even a Gue'vesa piloting a stealth suit.Wut, they get trusted with stealth suits? Doubtful, even if it is the xv15s
>>737250006I wouldn't mind votann if they weren't squat replacementsmake them one eyed grey tentacle face xenos or whateveractually no, just give back squats or fuck off, there are already enough armies that they can't balance them all properly or keep them all updated modelwise
>>737251485>Then, space marines were ex convicts thrown into power armor.Night LordsLuna WolvesRaven GuardMarines MalevolantStill are. And those are just off the top of my head.Still are.
>>737252796they still sell imperial squat models for necromunda
>>737250228>>737231593hate these huge disproportional giant titsI don't mind large, but these are just fucking retarded(like on most tau pics)
>>737252796>balanceCompfags get the rope. Tabletop is only good when it's narrative.
>>737252240LONGER!
>>737251135Just because Imperium is the most popular part of the 40k doesn't mean the parts that are not Imperium does not fit the setting, aesthetically or otherwise.
You shouldn't be allowed to post in a 40k thread without showing your models. That way all the tertiaries get filtered out
>>737252923I always thought competitiveness in tabletop games was retarded, because the companies always price the units with better stats to be more expensive. It's literally the same shit from the same moulds but because your army men have skulls on their belts or whatever the set costs $49.99 instead of $29.99.
>>737232602Actually it depends on the Inquisitor.There would be some that would mindwipe them into forgetting their time as Gue'vesa and instead replace it with utter xeno-hate and zealotry.
>>737253124you're on /v/ dumbass. The 40k content we're supposed to be didcussing is inherently secondary media.
>>737252872that's still not an army, neither in style or size>>737252923sorry, not my fault that 40k is catering to compshit
>>737252778The Raven Guard once boarded a Tau Water Caste diplomat ship, and they were alarmed when they encountered a commander in a battle suit who was actually a human riding it. The guy who piloted it was even a Xeno Ordo Inquisitor turned traitor. It's also the story that Imperigays love to use because it has that one angry Space Marine who stomped on a female Tau.Humans have it good in the Tau Empire.
>>737253124ma'am this is a video games board
>>737253124sir this is the vidya board
>>737251297>Give it another Decade of fine tuning and it will be a household nameYes, from the movies, video games and maybe books, if they ever manage to find an actual author instead of the black library slop, not the tabletopSame as it was with D&D, even now at it's peak popularity 99% of the people to whom it is a household name haven't played it and the only time they rolled dice was during the one mandatory Monopoly session every person is subjected to at some point in their lives
There is no reason the ynnari shouldnt thrive as ynnead protecting eldar souls removes the major problem the eldar popilation has, accessing soulstones.
>>737253124>You shouldn't be allowed to post in a 40k thread without showing you're a tabletop tertiary to filter tertiariesLeast retarded tablefag
orkz iz best
>>737253196>that one angry Space Marine who stomped on a female Tau.That was "Blades of Damocles" I think. "Broken Sword" was the one with the weeb inquisitor.
>>737253184>>737253209>>737253210Yet noone is discussing 40k vidya, just lore and fucking tau.I for my part hope that the corsair companion in dark heresy will be the most arrogant asshole eldar ever instead of wiser than thou eldar. Think rogue trader tier asshole but pointy eared
how come Herpes Loupygal almost killed the big dude
>>737251530This is an objective fact. Riptide would have been ok as a temporary experimental suit as long as they manage to miniaturize it later to a more reasonable size. Instead we keep getting bigger and dumber suits instead.
>>737253342>tabletop tertiary Did someone drop a metal thunderhawk on your head?
>>737239538I like the fact the leg parts of the wraithbone armor are not only black but give the illusion of them being stockings.>>737235795BS. The only Tau that treat humans actually, genuinely well are the Farsight Enclaves and that's because they don't have Ethereals to tell them what to do.Meanwhile the Empire has no problems with sterilizing people.
>>737252520There's a dozen posts from /v/anons saying shit like "why doesn't GW focus on this subculture of this niche faction of the most unpopular army? it would be better if they made that front and center!"They're secondaries, it doesn't matter what they say. I was a bit mean to come into a tau thread and tell them the truth that the imperium will always be the protagonists, but they need to be told that judging by this thread
I'm tired of human wank.
>>737252659Broke nigga alert
>>737253502Laarthyr is pretty chill actually
>>737250578>They're doing a soft reboot in 5th edition where the entire setting takes place on "the last world".In other words they're restarting Warhammer Fantasy minus the historical references. A compromise that will satisfy no one.
>>737253507False flag by the deep state. Now they control everything unrivalled.
>>737247923Shame that only in the vehicles as opposed in older editions.Hell, they even had bitchin longcoats.
>>737253603You're right, tablefags don't deserve to be called tertiaries, they're quaternaries at best
>>737251140>You like blue anime aliens in bikini mechs that want human boyfriends. That's fine, but there is no connection to 40k whatsoever. You could change the franchise to literally any other sci-fi setting and nothing about what you like would change, yet you insist on constantly forcing it into warhammer. It's annoying.That's not only wrong, that's entirely against the ongoing development of Tau canon. Recent novels have outright saying the Tau are beginning to pick up customs and behaviours from the humans that serve with them, which makes the state administration REALLY NOT HAPPY, and recently they literally were the major factor behind the goddess of the Tau being created and recognized.
>>737253667>BSLolno not conpared to the imperium at large. They are second class citizens in the empire, but their qol is far better than in the imperium.
>>737253236It's really depressing how unreadable black library authors are. I tried reading Perturabo and a Storm of Iron and it's just incoherent nonsense. I just read whatever Chris Wright puts out. I think he should be narrative lead.
>>737216347>>737216965>>737218038When will these Tau be memed into reality? GW should buckle for the almighty coomdollar
>>737253974At least fantasy has good stuff
>>737252520You are a fucking retard if you think that what drives the sales in the first place is muh plot. What drives the sales are GOOD MODELS for the TABLETOP GAME.No shit something like Ynnari didn't drive any sales, GW only released 3 models for that new faction. Whereas the refreshed aspect warrior range and also the new corsair kits have sold extremely well.As an Eldar fan, I never fucking asked for some grand narrative or relevance, what I asked for was for PLASTIC FUCKING WARP SPIDERS and I finally got them last year. The new Vyper kit we got this year is also very nice. Now if GW updated the Dire Avengers as well I'd be even happier.Most people who collect and play 40k don't give much of a shit about muh plot or "narrative" because the actual narratives and "plots" we engage with are the ones tied to our own armies.
>>737251976Hell no. I'd rather a complete remake of the game, but this time you fight in the last 1/5th of the game in a Battlesuit and defeat the LoC at the end of the game via dynamic entry after you manage to knock him into the next room.
>>737254032No, it doesn't at least not made in the last 15 years
>>737253949>but their qol is far better than in the imperium.The Imperium is comprised of over a million inhabited worlds. Ones quality of life depends almost entirely on which one of those he ended up on.Writers like Sandy Mitchell take pains to show that most of those million+ worlds are not too different from what we would consider "normal." After all, the Imperium is actually quiet light-handed on a planet-to-planet basis - pay your tithes, don't have heretics, and you're basically good.And most of them are peaceful. Even if there's a war raging on 50,000 of those worlds at any given time, the rest don't have that problem.
>>737254043Just do Lost Planet but with T'au
>last 300+ posts have been imperium dickriders complaining about other factions having funcan we at least end this thread on a good note and post attractive tau women
>>737253678/v/ are primaries because we play the primary medium of 40k, video gamesSorry tablexister, but someone had to tell you
>>737253754Why are you pretending to be a Warhammer fantasy fan lmao - Nobody played that shit, you only care because of Virmintide and TWW, which are good games but exist only because the tabletop exploded.GW killed WHFB because the historical ties meant nobody playing it was allowed to make their own factions or make their own army lists, nothing was allowed to change, if you tried birnging too many chariots in the wrong elf heraldry you'd get kicked out the game shop by some autistic boomers who wanted maximal historical accuracy in their fantasy setting. The stagnation was even worse than pre 7th edition 40k.Making Warhammer Fantasy where things are allowed to happen will satisfy everyone. Feel free to post YOUR minis to show you were such a big fan and were honestly sad at the setting being squatted because you were playing the game frequently enough. Otherwise your complaints are performative.
>>737252796>I wouldn't mind votann if they weren't squat replacements>make them one eyed grey tentacle face xenos or whateverWhy do you guys love the squats so much
>>737254032I want to write a short novel that takes place on an island, Not!Gibraltar, that's a hub for trade and invasions from every faction. The story follows a lone Stormcast undercover acting like an inquisitor/detective who has to kill cultists, untangle the complex factions that have embedded themselves in the Human systems, and eventually have a nice big satisfying battle for the island.Then set up the peninsula connected to the island as the main setting for humans and Stormcasts.This is what I want AOS stories to be about.
>>737216347Best 40k game?
>>737254250>mostSome. The vast majority are shit.
>>737237126Fucking faggotThis picture is older than you.
>>737254327>if you tried birnging too many chariots in the wrong elf heraldry you'd get kicked out the game shop by some autistic boomersNot only would have the grogs know how that formation could have happened, they would have helped you to write your chariot princes into existence.
>>737254521Nobody cares, Age of Shitmar is a dead game.
>>737254521Nobody cares, and even GM is slowly, slowly crawling into just rebooting Fantasy.
>>737232530>capturedThe entire platoon which contained a single rogue Guardsman that even attempted to accept a prisoner would be executed for such Hersey.
>>737254615The difference is that back then, this was ironic
>>737254710Well thats a monkeys paw.
>>737254579Still Dawn of War 1
>>737232686>for me its 8 foot tall muscular but still with huge tits tomboy fire caste warriors >big futa horsecocksYou started out so strong....
>>737238863lol member back in like 2003 when that journo got his head cut off on fuzzy video to that?
>>737254665You're wrong but that's ok
>>737254710>>737254682after 10 years AOS accounts for 20% of GW yearly revenue, that's more than WFB has ever generated in its lifetime.It's only going to be more Sigmar from here
>>737235795Reminder that the Tau are days away from unleashing the horrors of AI upon themselves and damning their civilization at which point the race traitors are going to be turned into machine lubricant like their masters and the Imperium will have yet another Galactic-tier threat to deal with.
>>737254789So the difference was that you were ironically gay back then, and now you're just a faggot
>>737254250>Imperium propagandaDon't fall for it bros
>>737255026>more Sigmar from hereAnon, Sigmar is actually dead in the current canon of AoS.
>>737255026Galaxy Angel? In my 40k thread in 2026?What a blessing
>>737255026>He hasn't heard the leakBro AoS is getting End Times'd.
>>737255069>at which point the race traitors are going to be turned into machine lubricant like their masters and the Imperium will have yet another Galactic-tier threat to deal withNot really, Necrons have been using AI for millenia and had no issues with it.
>>737255069Sorry, gayos pozzing only happens to humen.
>>737255121>>737255153YOu guys must be ESL's, because I said there's more AOS in the future, as in more of the setting.Also I already know about the Last world shit, but we're still in 4th edition, and have until the 2027th for 5th edition for that to take place.
>>737255121At least try format it so it can match up with the fake leak. >>737255153End times would be completely deleting the game. They're keeping everything and even turning the realms into continents.
>>737255069Given that the Leagues of Votan live in peace with their AI buddies, it seems like AI rebellions are just a skill issue on mankinds part.
>>737238321Eldrad is such a dick time refuse to touch him
>>737255329I'll be the first to admit that I don't remember the stuff for the votann, much less fully understood it when I did read it, but aren't the votann all basically just clones made by the AI super computers they hide from everyone else?
>>737255329More like they're just underwritten, because nobody has an answer for their immunity to Chaos virus's, which is 100% of the reason why the Imperium banned that shit in teh first place.
>>737255480You are correct, however additionally the robots they have in their armies are canonically fully sapient beings and are treated as equals.
>>737255069Tau already have AI. Hell the Imperium uses AI all over the place they just pretend they don't. AI isn't even that bad. The Men of Iron turned on Mankind because they became indolent.
>>737255171>Not really, Necrons have been using AI for millenia and had no issues with it.>The AI has no issues with being AI
>>737255596What are the tactical differences between giving your robot toes, and not giving them toes?
>>737255069>hurrrr AIImeriumtards are so dumb and so is their Emperor. The reason why AI almost killed humankeks is because they treat it like a shit slave.
>>737255329AI seems to stay happy as long as you put yourself to at equal or equivalent risk of harm as the AI itself. So it's cool being a Battlesuit or Titan piloted by a human that's mostly redundant to it's operation but it gets peeved when you send it out to die on it's own. Hence you have advanced Necron warmachines with super AI piloted by a Necron.
>>737255076You are a retarded gooner, unironically, congrats
>>737255593Maybe because chaos viruses are admech propaganda 99/100 of times to keep their position of power.
>>737256027This. Chaos virus doesn't make that much of a sense because what hold does a warp based "virus" have on an unthinking, unfeeling machine?
>>737255680I mean actual AI like the Canoptek Spiders that maintain their infrastructure.
>>737255715It depends if their primary function is for business or pleasure.
>>737256027Now go to any street on Calth and repeat that and see how long before you get knocked out
>>737255596Shit like this kinda ruins the lore. I'm just going to pretend that the Leagues of Votann don't exist.
>>737255329>Given that the Leagues of Votan live in peace with their AI buddiesThey literally are birthed in pods by the AI that's a combination of all of their ancestors memories along with the robots that the same AI makes. So it's a little different having the hivemind of your ancestors being the AI
>>737256027>>737256120The "Mechanicum" novel begs to differ. Chaos viruses or "scrap code" are more than real, and can completely fuck up an entire Forge World within hours.
>>737254250>MostSome planets have regressed so dramatically that they no longer know how to function as an advanced civilization and have devolved to feudalism and live like Medieval Times and the Imperium only uses as a slave caste, some are so neglected that they no longer know whether they are even apart of an empire which is what the Tau has been doing with frontier worlds, and some planets have cavemen unga bungas who were left to fend for themselves.The imperium only cares about titthes and cares little about what state humanity lives in. People wouldn't be defecting to Tau so easily.
>>737256146The ancestors of the nusquats do not live inside the votan aka their super AI cores they "worship". They aren't infinity circuits, there are no souls within the Votan. It is more like the Votan do brainscans of the dead nusquats/kin and absorb the information from those brainscans to themselves.
>>737256201Imperium AI isn't pure machine but cyborg hybrid no?
>>737256201Sounds like admech needs to update their McAfee subscriptions.
>>737254250I really don't know why you guys go to such vast lengths to portray Imperial worlds are just normal regular places with nothing going on when the entire setting of WH40K is that it's grimdark and GW have made it a big point that most Imperial worlds are just kind of fucking shit to live on.
>>737256365At the end of the day, you're a human and no amount of green paint or space communism is going to change that. The entire point (and appeal) is that you're born into a single system, and it sucks, but outside the walls are face eating aliens who are much worse.Trench warfare fucking blows, and you should flip off the government that forces you in that position, but that doesn't stop people from admiring and thinking trench warfare is a badass location for a war.You aren't here to argue morality with aliens, you're supposed to be purging them with absolute prejudice because you're a human.
>>737256365Most planets in the Ciaphas Cain novels are absolutely normal places, unless some shit hits the fan. But that's an outside invasion, not them being garbage to live on from the start.Again, the Imperium being some super-totalitarian shithole in every aspect of life makes no sense when the actual lore is that, for MOST planets (not all - MOST) the Imperium is very hands-off - pay your tithes, give recruits, no heresy - other than that, you can rule yourself as you want.
>>737256365Some imperiumfags have cognitive dissonance regarding the fact that the imperium is a complete shithole. They basically view the imperium as "good guys" but can't accept the lore that contradicts that or showcases the imperium/humanity in poor light. It is the same sickness that makes these people confidently spout about how the imperium totally has the best tech in the setting or how dark age of tech humanity was the dominant power in the galaxy and so on despite both of these views contradicting the actual lore.Basically, its a result of some sort of retarded "muh faction = the best" brainrot that makes one unable to awknowledge the flaws in the faction they root for.
>>737255596>are canonically fully sapient beingsIncorrect, they're not full on AI like the actual votann.
>>737256584M8, the average life expectancy even on fucking Macgragge is like 35 years and it is a supposedly rather civilized and well to do world.The notion that "most imperial worlds are decent" is completely untethered from the actual lore. The imperium is a fucking shithole, it is the most monstrous and horrid state to have ever reigned over mankind.
>>737256585You fags are so exhausting to engage with. I don't know how you spend all your time spouting bullshit about a franchise you have zero clue about and largely despise. Seriously, why don't you spend time on something you actually like instead of this retarded shit you post.
>>737256569>The entire point (and appeal) The entire point is to show you how fucked up Imperium dogmatism is. So fucked up Imperium will collapse soon. Even Emperor himself knows his mistakes but can't fix anything because he's a fucking course. Imperiumfags are literally retarded and can't understand their own lore beyond surface LE WAR XENOS XDXD FOR THE EMPEROR cringe.
>>737256584>Again, the Imperium being some super-totalitarian shithole in every aspect of life makes no sense when the actual loreBut they are? You can be as fucking normal as you want but as soon as somebody even begins THINKING about chaos related stuff they're going to come over and make life a hell of a lot worse for everyone because they know the destruction a world can start with mere thoughts that'll snowball into the manifestation of daemons. There's no such thing as "normal worlds" in a grimdark setting like wh40k. Not by our fucking standards at least.
>>737256681No, they are full AI and sapient beings. Votan are super ai, with superhuman intelligence far trancending mortal minds. The ironkin of the Votan still have equivalent intelligence to the nusquats and sometimes even greater.Like these dudes are basically sapient combat strategy computers that serve as commanders in Leagues of Votan forces.
>>737256735>M8, the average life expectancy even on fucking Macgragge is like 35 years>The average life expectancy on Macragge is approximately 30 Macragge years, which translates to roughly 85 to 100 Terran standard years due to the planet's orbital period being approximately 2.85 Terran years.READ, NIGGER, READ
>>737256735That number was all of Ultramar, including Death Worlds and Agri Worldspic is where that 35 stat comes from, a comic known for it's over the top Grimderpness
>>737256864No, see >>737256856 - it was in MACRAGGE YEARS, not Terran years.
>>737256864Wait, wrong one here is the correct image
>>737256793You sound like a leftypol from blbuesky obsessed with viewing everything through your particular blend of politics to advertise and annoy everyone.
>>737256925Nope, the stat is for all of Ultramar, not just Macragge,
>>737256365It's just thinking things through. The Imperium has a million worlds, it has to be a livable place for the most part.
>>737257043I know, but the 30s is in local years, which are measured by Macragge's orbit, which is 2,8 Terram years.Elsewhere it states that on Macragge itself people live up to a 100 local years, which is 280 Terran years.
>>737257098it is, don't listen to xenofags
>>737257098"Livable" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for Hive worlds, agri worlds, etc for where the majority of humans live at. The imperium is more like one giant bureaucracy where the entire system is designed to sustain itself, mostly at the expense of others.
>>737257098Nah its fucking cope, the imperium is oppressive and shit
>>737256365The Imperium has countless worlds. It's just common sense that not every single one is a hellhole meatgrinder only good for babies and throwing people into war or fueling the emperor
>>737256971What? imperium is literal shithole on the path of self-distruction. Is this really "political leftypol from blbuesky" revelation for Imeriumfags? Imperium is only good at making more enemies and creating more Chaos instead of aiming for the better future like Emperor wanted.
>>737256971And the faggot reveals himself as a polnigger
>>737257112anon, that is just cope,that Marvel Calgar comic was designed to be an introduction story to 40k, it is not going to use local years just to confuse someone who has only heard of 40k
>>737256009If you don't like tits you can git out. Reddit is down the hall and to the left, faggot.
>>737256864This is the livable planet they tell you about. Work for 80 years straight in the field doing manual farm work under starvation conditions until your lungs give out and you are mulched into fertilizer. And this isni. the relatively stable region of Macragge, not an actual hellhole.
>>737251964Bro your own image shows the difference. Compare that to a sleek, all black xenomorph, the lil nigga is even holding a big ass gun that's growing out of his dick. Tyranids and Admech may not draw their influence from classic fantasy but GW still made sure that they aesthetically and narratively still fit into the setting. In comparison Tau look like the laziest "we want the weeb audience" cash ins and these threads prove that's all they are. Most tau posts are just gooner waifu shit and whiny "we are le real fans!" faggotry. Tau are the lazy slop race for tourists who don't like 40k.
>>737256760These are the faggots trying to hamfist their politics into the setting as well. I fucking hate them.
>>737257394The Emperor always hated aliens and the Imperial Truth was always a conscious lie.
>>737257818By same fucking logic the Eldar don't fit into 40k because they don't look like they are grotesque/straight out of heavy metal album cover.Not every fucking faction in 40k has to follow same aesthetic principles as the Imperium, dipshit.
>>737257818You're retarded.
>>737247753I have no words for how much I love old Eldar illustration, especially this Vyper Jetbike piece.
>>737257870Chaos Gods can be explained with science.
>>737241241>Fuck off back to /tg/You can't make me.
One thing I love about the Tau is imagining what it must be like for a human defector landing in T'au city for the first time and going into the local watering hole, and sitting alongside everything that croaks and squeaks from cannibal vulture men to 6-eyed bipedal wasps.
>>737256760I'm not the one pushing the completely baseless claim that most imperial worlds are decent places to live.Why is it so fucking hard for you niggers to accept that the imperium is a fucking DYSTOPIA. It is a galaxy spanning feudal empire in which human life has literally zero value beyond the labor it can offer or service on the battlefield. The imperium is extremely brutal to it's citizens, for 99 percent of people living in the imperium there is no hope of social advancement or rise in living quality, most people live as essentially fucking serfs that are the property of whatever administrator that governs their lives. The nobility of the Imperium has almost zero checks to their authority beyond the Inqusition ensuring that they don't worship chaos, trade with xenos, or try to push for independence. As long as an imperial governor pays his tithes and remains ostensibly loyal to the Imperium, the imperial buerocracy doesn't give a flying fuck about how the populace of the world is treated.
>>737258201Eldar art is peak
>>737258401Fuck off faggot.
>>737241241>Cultist Chan and Big EThey've been friends (and occasional lovers) for countless years. Even as a raisin corpse of a failing Empire, she still loves him
>>737258401Don't fuck off please ToT
>>737258532Imo the eldar as a whole, from the Craftworlders to the Dark Eldar, are the best part of 40k. The way Jes Goodwin designed their aesthetics is nothing short of brilliant and I love how you can see commonalities across the board with them, while each of the factions still retain their own unique flair. It of course helps that overall they have the best looking models in the entire setting.Their lore and how all Eldar are ultimately tied to the struggle against she who thirsts, with the different factions having their own means of combating the threat Slaanesh poses to them is very well done. I am especially fond of the way how the eldar in 40k avoids copying the blood feud between Dark Elves and High Elves, and instead has a more nuanced and complicated relationship between the Craftworlders and their dark cousins of Commoragh. It makes for more interesting dynamic between the factions and it is quite funny to me how to the Craftworlders, even the Dark Eldar are often more preferrable as allies than the imperium is. Really brings forth the supreme arrogance of the Eldar and how they value the lives of their fellow Eldar above that of the lesser races.
>>737256793>The entire point is to show you how fucked up Imperium dogmatism is. So fucked up Imperium will collapse soon.If this is your takeaway you're going to be left disappointed. This is not the story of 40k.
Relictors best chapter. Inquisition can't follow you into the archive.
>>737259229>This is not the story of 40k.Don't care I will continue to write 40k history analysis.God it is so hard to have 200 IQ.
>>737258921Based Eldar chad
