for $50 in price difference, why would anyone even buy the over-glorified laptop over a proper handheld?
>>737230563Because Steam has way more games to choose from, and you can always use SteamLink or GeForceNow if you want to play a very demanding game that wouldn't normally run well on it.
why would you play games on screens for ants
>>737230649>SteamLink or GeForceNowWhat's next watching games on yt?
>>737230649more game to play at 360p! oh boy!!
>>737230563I don’t have either because I do have a laptop but a steam deck has the benefit of not being locked to Nintendo
>>737230563>if you don't have PC buy Steam Deck>if you have a PC buy Switch 2It's that simple.
>>737230674both machines have 7.5-8in screens. that's certainly pushing the limits of what anyone considers "handheld"
>>737230701Streaming works pretty well these days as long as you have good internet/LAN.SteamLink of course requires you to have a good PC as well, but being LAN streaming the quality and latency is excellent. I use it to play PC VR games.>>737230731There are loads of 2D and lower spec games (and emulators) that run well on the Deck without need for upscaling.Personally, I don't own or want a SteamDeck or any console/handheld, but I have friends who own one and it fits their needs well.
>>737230563>for $50 in price difference, why would anyone even buy the over-glorified laptop over a proper handheld?modding
>>737230563*obliterates everything that isn't a 5090*nothin personnel
>handheld console released in 2025 outperforms handheld console released in 2022really? there is no way tendies are down this bad and so desperate for a W. be satisfied with your DLSS and stop trying to make Switch 2 owners look bad.
>>737230563Handhelds?
>>737230563Oh you want to talk about GRAPHICS? Really? You want to highlight how much better GRAPHICS your toy tablet has? You relly want to get into an argument about GRAPHICS with PCGODS? You sure about that?Point is, if you gave a shit about graphics, you'd be on PC. If you're shopping for handhelds, you're inherently placing graphics below multiple other aspects. The 'eck beats the shitch poo in all of those.
>>737231463>linux>modding>still 240pwhat are we even doing
>>737231582>RT OffThey made non-rt path shit on purpose didn't they?
>>737230563>upscale dogshit vs upscale dogshitwho cares?
>>737231784it has been obnoxiously shit since forevermost notably it became obvious in RE2R in the lab section and RPD floors lmao
>>737231784They always do, as the modern devs literally cannot into DX9 era full-dynamic lights and reflections, and just succumb to shipping a game with all-bright + 2010-tier SSR as a compromise.
>>737230563Nobody ever mentions how the deck is bigger, heavier, looks like shit, gets noisy and hot as fuck. The fact it's less powerful than a Switch 2 is just the cherry on top
>New system is better than a 4 year old systemNo way this is insane groke is this true
>>737231883>most notably it became obvious in RE2R in the lab section and RPD floors lmaoEven the OG RE2R pre-RT was literally better off without any sort of dynamic reflections... that were just SSR.The devs actually went an extra mile to create detailed, tasteful cubemap reflections for most areas, so you don't even lose anything - and don't have to deal with the noisy, blotchy SSR.
>>737231975>nobody mentions that device from 2025 is powerful than device from late 2021Wow, you're fucking genius.Only you forgot to mention that SD has infinitely larger library. You can play OoT, MM, SM64 natively on SD while you can't on neither of switches lmao.
>>737232050And yes, all these are with dynamic reflections OFF, meaning just cubemaps.
>>737231994>'eck fans starting to sound like switch owners back in 2022like pottery
>>737230563>terminal cultist is still at war with a phone-tier tablet from like 2018The absolute state, lmao.
>>737231582RT + native 4k DLAA is the way to go.
>>737231582Why is Hugh so much less detailed with path tracing?
>>737230563>NintoddIers raped to hard by PS5 and PC they have to fight with a handheld that no one bought.Lol Lmao. What happened to all the posts claiming Switch 2 games would look better than the PS5?
>>737230563>Less than a year old>Plays games at 360pJesus Christ.
>>737230563I was able to get Pragmata for 20% off on PC. Enjoy paying $60 (+tax + tip) for a slightly higher resolution.
>>737230563>FSRwell yeah nvidia always wins
>>737232343>Only getting 20% off
>>737232343It's hilarious watching tendies pay $70 for botched ports of games that game out five years ago and then bragging about it.
confirmed vroomer
>Steam deck has 0 exclusivesWhat a joke.
>>737232343>he doesnt the game and he's paying for itLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>This is the best the newest console on the market can achieveGrim.
>>737230563Wth is a "docked" steam deck?
I use my Steam Deck as a portable console for my indie games, to emulate PS2/Dreamcast/PS1, and to play older games (1993-2020). For newer and more demanding games, I use my PC as a dock to play at the best visual quality. In that case, I can use Steam Link to play the latest games on the Deck at the best visual quality.>Muh input lagIt will have the same effect as when you use upscalers.So, using the Switch to play non-Nintendo games is pointless.
>>737230563>360p 40fps>360p 45 fpsYeah, big difference mate
>1995+31>360pMy instincts tell me life shouldn't be this way.
>>737233705It's connected to the power supply, but it doesn't make sense since it always operates at 25W. Mine has undervolting at -50mV, which considerably increases battery life. If it were more consistent, it would be better to use dock mode with your desktop PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXx2dF_25aofix
>>737231709Are you implying you cannot use mods on Linux? Are you retarded?
lmao the handheld that's 3 years older looks worse. What an absolute WINTENDO am I right!?
>fake framesBoth are unplayable. At least RE9 allows the Deck to run native.
>>737232094you're literally illiterate. Even if the Deck were from the early 2000s, there's no excuse for all those other flaws. As I said, being less powerful is just the cherry on top.I don't care how big the "library" is because the hardware is just not comfortable at all to play with.
>>737231975The bigger size is necessary for ergonomics. Switch 1 (I don't own Switch 2, but I assume it's the same) feels like shit to use because of the tiny buttons made for tiny Japanese hands.
>>737231582Why is the one with PT so blurry and smeared in vaseline?
>>737234573It is designed for its target audience, which are madchild, Japanese and children.
>>737234427And would you look at that, it CAN run native.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL7fKFfgbyA
imagine buying multiplats on consolesyou're getting the worst versions that are locked to those toys and will age poorly
>>737234716>800p, no upscaling>absolutely playable framerateTENDIEBROS?!!! OUR RESPONSE?!!
>>737230563>1th gen handheld vs 2th gen handheld 5fps dif in handheld mode whoah
>>737230563Or you could just play on a normal PC.I doubt you'd want to play the loli game in public.
>>737230563game selectionbest case for handhelds is to play older games at native res/high framerate while the system is not even close to 100% utilisation rather than playing modern games at low res low framerates.
did anyone actually confirm the OP picturethe last 5 time someone has posted deck vs switch of pragmata, the switch and steam have been swapped
>>737230563>for $50 in price differenceThat's not even the case anymore. Valve stopped letting people buy the most garbage Dreck and you are forced to shell out at least $600, effectively hiking the price.
>>737235472The Deck can run the game native at 800p, averaging 30-50 FPS depending on the area. See: >>737234716
>>737231627Remember when you shat yourself all over the place about how Deck is better than Switch?Remember when I told you that it's expected that handheld console released in 2022 outperforms a handheld console released in 2017, yet you continued soiling your pants?I remember.
>>737232176What do you mean? Pragmata on Switch 2 looks better than on PS5 lmao
>>737234427Switch 2 doesn’t posses the hardware to use frame generation, Mr. Most Tech Aware PCtard
>>737235738Switch 24fps looks better than 120fps on Ps5
>>737235817DLSS = fake frames
>>737235853are consolecucks really like this?
>>737230563Tendie fatigue threadGame + DLC is free on the steam deck, so your price cope is nullGame runs better than the shitch 2 versions thanks to lossless scalingGame is more fun to play due to mod supportGame has actual mouse controls on the deck unlike the shitch 2 version. This is apparently something that tendies care about now btw, I remember you subhumans laughing at emulatorfags since they wouldn't be able to play Prime 4 with mouse controls (even though they still can and could even do with Prime 1 demastered)This is all on outdated 2022 hardware btw. Tendies paid $300 for the Switch 1 and then>upgradedto the shitch 2 in 2025 just to compete with 2022 hardware. $700 wasted, congrats.Now call me ericsnoysteamie boogeyman
>>737235853It's 40FPS on Switch 2 vs 60FPS on PS5.And it does look better which what he said. He didn't say anything about running better.
>>737235864DLSS = upscaling. It frees up resources for the game to run at higher perormance.Frame generation = fake frames. Requires specific hardware to operate that Switch 2 doesn't posses.Mr. Most Tech Aware PCtard
>>737235738>Framerate modeAre tendies illiterate?
>>737236029Upscaling IS fake frames. You no longer get the raw output, but one smudged by AI.
>tendies using the docked mode to compete against the steam deck's handheld modeName a more dishonest fanbase
>>737236029upscaling is fake frames, tendieyou take a lower resolution image and guess your way to a higher resolution one
>>737236093And using framerate mode on te PS5 to compare graphics.
>>737235897Being a thief never was a point of discussion itt.>Game runs better than the shitch 2 versions thanks to lossless scaling>Fake resolution that looks worse due to using garbage algorithm>Fake frames that make the game run worse due to them being fake>runs betterlmao Dreckie...
Console wars have really hit rock bottom. Now it's just constant shit flinging over who has the better fake frames and upscaling with pcfags chiming in with their $1,000 gpus that also require fake frames and upscaling to actually make use of all their fancy features.
>>737236186>Fake resolutionYou mean in the Switch 2? Deck can run native.He's a faggot for using lossless scaling though.
>>737236052"Resolution mode" on PS5 in Pragmata adds ray tracing. It doesn't improve resolution.At least learn what you are sperging about
>>737236186>Being a thief never was a point of discussion itt.It's not being a thief, it's called game sharing. You can't pirate denuvo games after all.>Fake resolution that looks worse due to using garbage algorithmDLSS?>Fake frames that make the game run worse due to them being fakeDLSS?Fake frames and resolution is only ok when tendies does it I guess
>>737236093What are you conjuring up in your diseased mind now? You have the comparison right in the OP >>737230563
>>737236249The Switch 2 version doesn't have raytracing?I thought the Switch 2 was as powerful as the PS5.
>>737236254DLSS is the best upscaler on the market.There are no fake frames on Switch 2.Please, please learn some tech literacy.
>>737234156Ok, that was what I was wondering, because I heard from friends that it does not perform any different really if you have it plugged or not. So I was wondering what was the point of comparing it with a handheld that specifically has been built to operate at a higher spec when plugged into the dock.
>>737236318No one said such a thing. The question was about it looking better, which it does >>737235738
>>737233614yes pirate the one rare cunny game so there will be less cunny games in the future? don't be retarded faggot. buy it
>>737234616Upscaling and frame generation are needed to hit 45fps.
upscaling is so cringe.
>>737236384>So I was wondering what was the point of comparing it with a handheld that specifically has been built to operate at a higher spec when plugged into the dock.That's what Dreckies have been doing all this time? What's the issue now?Anyway, Pragmata looks and runs better on Switch 2 in handheld mode than in full power Dreck.
>>737235817>Switch 2 doesn’t posses the hardware to use frame generationIn very demanding games, ghosting is very noticeable; that's a hallmark of frame rate generation.
>>737236435Is does?
>>737236550>Anyway, Pragmata looks and runs better on Switch 2 in handheld mode than in full power Dreck.The Switch 2 looks awful, I wouldn't even use a Switch or deck to play that game
>>737236550>That's what Dreckies have been doing all this time? What's the issue now?What are you talking about? Deck has handheld mode only.>Pragmata looks and runs better on Switch 2 in handheld mode than in full power Dreck.No it doesn't. Deck can run Pragmata at a native 800p, Switch has to resort to upscaling.
>>737236550>i bought the version that runs worse and looks worse than the pc version that the 'eck buyers get for freetendies really are fighting for the mediocrity crown out here lmao
>>737230563Now compare it to the Switch 1 version
>>737236556It doesn't possess the hardware for frame generation, you cretin. It's literally and physically incapable of using it.
>>737235898>And it does look better which what he said.Switch 2 looks too blurryhttps://www.rpgsite.net/feature/20123-pragmata-switch-2-vs-ps5-pro-full-game-best-version-xbox-pc-steam-deck
>>737236550>It looks and runs like shit, but at least it's better than this other system that it looks and runs like shit onThis is what NintoddIers are bragging about now?
>>737236653And how would you ever notice this without your face being two inches from the screen? My TV is 10ft away, they all look identical unless the Switch 2 has bad smearing in movement or something.
>>737236589Ok? No one asked. It's not the point of the conversation.>>737236598And Switch 2 could run it at native 1080p at 40 FPS, but the upscaled image looks better than native thanks to built in AA. There's really no benefit in running it native.
>>737236706>could run it at native 1080p at 40 FPSThe Switch is running it at 360p 45 FPS.
>>737236581Damn, look at all that ugly aliasing on PS5.
>>737236608>>737236664It's funny how the steamdeck suddenly went from being 'irellevent' to Tendies to being the basis of every comparison.
Look at how tendies are avoiding showing Diana's N64 hair in the switch 2 versionSame shit happened with the shitty star wars game, they compared it to the deck version running with higher population density and mem tracing
>>737236689>And how would you ever notice this without your face being two inches from the screen?applies to >>737230563 and >>737235738, tendie
Hair looks very bad on the swithc>>737236653
>>737236653>PS5 ProThe $900 PS5 Pro comparison wasn't what was being discussed. The regular PS5 was.
>>737236706>And Switch 2 could run it at native 1080p at 40 FPS, but the upscaled image looks better than native thanks to built in AADo nintenyearoIds really think that upscalling from 360p looks better than DLAA?
The switch version is a fucking port and exactly as downgraded as the platformthe deck version is just the PC version, and requires far more computing poweryou're telling me the game on the right runs better? woooooah
>>737236616>It doesn't possess the hardware for frame generation, you cretin. It's literally and physically incapable of using it.You have ways to implement open-source alternatives that aren't tied to hardware, and with some tweaking you can even use DLSS on non-Nvidia devices. Again, the ghosting noticeable in some games is due to the frame generation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LEkOG1yqqw&talso DLSS 4.0 is not hardware limited
>>737236838>i-it doesn't count...Can we all agree that nintendofags are the single worst fanbase in the entirety of gaming now?
>>737236740Because it produces a better result than native?It's also why Dreck uses upscaling too. Dropping every setting to lowest than low and running at 20FPS just so you can proclaim it runs 800p native isn't impressing anyone.
>>737236838>The regular PS5 was.The cheap PS5 looks much better than switch 2
>>737236874Why does PC not have the option to lower it's settings to the Switch 2's level?
>>737230563
>>737236910>20 FPSThe Deck runs at 30-50 FPS, see >>737234716And native is always better than FSR/DLSS, they always look like shit.
>>737236910>Because it produces a better result than native?>>737234427lol
>>737236924It does
>>737236758It is irrelevant. All the serious Switch 2 comparisons are with Series S and PS5. Dreck isn't even a question.People are just laughing at Dreckies for running into hiding when it became clear Switch 2 is superior after they kept spamming that Dreck will be better for the past 2 years.
>>737230563>if we compare to the poorest handheld available it makes the switch 2 look goodcommon consoletard poorfag cope
>>737237024>It is irrelevant. All the serious Switch 2 comparisons are with Series S and PS5. Dreck isn't even a question.disingenuous tendie cultist, what's the op of this thread?
>>737237024>All the serious Switch 2 comparisons are with Series S and PS5In docked mode. If you're playing docked, might as well play it on a desktop.The Deck runs better than Switch 2 in handheld mode.
>>737237024>People are just laughing at DreckiesPeople are just laughing nintedrones Because on their crappy console, you see 1% less garbage than on a Series S and a Steam Deck.
>>737236990As I said: at minecraft-level settings
After 30 years of "graphics don't matter", they suddenly switch to "of course graphics matter!" And what did made thes guys change their minds? 360p-45 fps.
>>737237085And yet the end result still looks better than upscaled 360p.
>>737230563>360p at sub 60fpsdo consolefags really?
>>737237056What I said: People are just laughing at Dreckies for running into hiding when it became clear Switch 2 is superior after they kept spamming that Dreck will be better for the past 2 years.You're being put in your place. One random guy did a comparison to laugh at you.
>>737237085>As I said: at minecraft-level settingsSame settings as the Switch 2?
>>737237104And still looks and runs worse than on Switch 2.
>>737237135>Switch 2 is superior>upscaled 360p vs native 800p
Reminder.
>>737237135>Switch 2 is superioruh huhno, the reality is that your tendie toy needs to have its game versions babysat and cut down hard
>>737236910>it produces a better result than nativeHoly poorfag.
>>737236924It does. Did OP bother telling you which settings are used on the Deck version or not?
>>737237135>What I said: People are just laughing at Dreckies for running into hiding when it became clear Switch 2 is superiorThe other versions are far superior to the Switch 2 version, making it pointless to play on a Switch 2 or any handheld. I don't see what relief you get from the fact that the Switch 2 version looks just as awful even with DLSS.>>737237170Yes And you can also add mods or play it on a higher-end PC
>>737232095I can tell, it's always noticeably inaccurate.
>>737236910>Because it produces a better result than native?DLAA or DLSS Q ultra or nothing
>>737231162
>>737231582Does PS5 do raytracing? Because the RT off looks disgusting. How could they not even get the color of the car right?
>>737231162if you have a pc you're not going to cry about the few low value toddler games you can't emulate yet
>>737231162I use my Steamdeck to stream from my desktop. Can I do that with a Switch 2?
>>737231162>if you have a PC buy Steam deck oled and use Steam linkFix
>>737231162Can you play Poke All Toads on Switch 2? Or Monster Girl Quest: Paradox?
>>737231162>>if you have a PC buy Switch 2That's what I did and it's pretty nice. Also got a cheap PS5 for Astro Bot and some of the PS4 games I didn't play. Feels pretty good.
>>737231582Why is the car more blurry on rt than on pt? That's not the difference between them. The car should look the same.
>>737236525This is the power of the $3,000 5090.
>>737237586And $3000 is a lot for you?
>tendietard thread
>>737231162I own a PC and a switch 1. I'd have to be mentally ill to consider getting a Switch 2 over the eventual 'eck on 'ick 2
>>737237802>I'd have to be mentally ill to consider getting>Have a switch 1You are already mentally ill.
>>737237873In my defense, it's been gathering dust ever since 2020. Also, I don't want to be a faggot that judges things without trying them.
>>737237873PC+Switch 1 made sense before 'eck dropped.
>>737230563There are numerous reasons. I'm not going to list them all because you wouldn't understand, but I can do more with a Steam Deck then I could with a Switch 2. Also fuck Nintendo for making the only thing I even owned a Switch 1 for utterly pointless for most games. I used to buy a bunch of games physically for the Switch 1 and now almost all of them are key cards unless its first party, and even THOSE aren't safe. I already avoided the handful of them that were like that for Switch 1, but now I really have no reason to bother at all with third party titles, including the very one in the OP.If I have to buy a digital game regardless I'd rather buy it on Deck since I can play those same games on my actual PC if I really want better performance.
>>737230563>for $50 in price difference, why would anyone even buy the over-glorified laptop over a proper handheld?You save a lot more money over time with the Steam Deck without needing to buy NSO(or games). Nintendo hardware is the most expensive long term because of game prices and the selection of games is worse than the Deck, partially thanks to the Deck being able to emulate Nintendo exclusives.
>>737231214i dont consider the switch or deck handhelds theyre way to big to actually use comfortably like a vita or ds, inb4 someone says i have small hands or im weak im strong and my hands arent small. theyre just uncomfortable machines
>>737237963If you're a big Nintendo fan, maybe, but the only one I liked was Bayonetta 3.>>737237918I borrowed a Switch 1 for a month with several games. I barely played one game one day and left it unused until the owner remembered he had it. I had to remind him several times to get it back or return it.
>>737238265they are handhelds, they're just sitting handhelds meant to be used with your hands resting on your lap
>>737238306yeah and at that point you might aswell use a tv or monitor kek, im still hoping they make a little switch box thats an actual console at some point
>>737230563>Steamdeck is going to rely on upscaling.>Goes with an AMD GPUNot the smartest choice.
>>737238306And why would I ever do that? If a handheld can't fit in a pocket, then I'm not taking it anywhere and I'll always have a TV available where it is. Useless gimmick holding back an entire generation.
>>737238386>im still hoping they make a little switch box thats an actual console at some pointhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEJt009r3cg
>>737238514ive seen this before 3d printed stuff is light and tacky looking though
>>737238459For using Linux and taking advantage of modding, AMD is better and Steam OS is excellent; you can even use DLSS through mods.
>>737238460who the fuck plays games standing up?
>>737230563Piracy. Crack the switch 2 and maybe I'll buy one.
>>737238567>ive seen this before 3d printed stuff is light and tacky looking thoughYou have many types of materials to use and you have ways to change that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiG1jDEG0kA
Whats the use case for handhelds? When do people have the opportunity to do anything on a handheld? Lunchbreak at work?
The Steam Deck is the biggest tech piece of shit I've ever used in my nearly 39 years of life. It's certifiable junk with extremely buggy software and pathetically slow hardware. It is so fucking slow that if I'm streaming with Moonlight and open the system settings menu, if I simply SCROLL DOWN THE FUCKING LIST I can hear the game stream lagging out and freezing in the background. I got this thing for free and I still reject it. Just buy a nice laptop for a little more with at least a 5060 Ti and you'll quadruple your experience quality without being stuck using this piece of shit AMD trash buggy as fuck junk. That all said you'd never catch me dead with a Nintendo product post GameCube. Company's been absolute pinnacle of corporate greed for over 20 years now.
>>737230563Why spend money on either? My PC can run any games maxed out at 4K lmao.
>>737238723>When do people have the opportunity to do anything on a handheld?I use it when I'm traveling for work and I'm in a hotel or rented room, or when I don't want to use the computer and I don't want to get out of bed.
>>737238723Nightshift security for me. 8 hours of sitting in a car and no wifi.
>>737238386Star Butterfly mention
>>737232175>>737234616>>737237559The sample count when running PT is way lower than RT because it's so demanding. Lighting looks more correct but overall the image quality becomes shit. The denoiser has to work so hard that the entire thing becomes a smeary mess. It's like faces in cyberpunk look like total ass without ray reconstruction with path tracing on.
>>737230563Capcom have no reason to dedicate time refining FSR over Switch optimizations
>>737238295It had a few okay games. GAA2, 3H, Triangle Strategy, Xenoblade 1. Plus some indie ports. But the 'eck's library is so much better it's unreal.
>>737231627Every single Nintendo hater said there was no way the switch 2 could be more powerful than the deck. And they said this for a long time. Even diSHITal foundry believed this.Fuck off, retarded faggot.
>>737241010>there was no way the switch 2 could be more powerful than the deckAnd it isn't. They typically perform neck-to-neck. Sometimes the 'eck is slightly better (RE9, Pragmata), sometimes Switch 2.
>>737241138Suuuuure, nigger. Sure.
>>737241291Games like that one Ubishit Star Wars game are the exception. That one uses forced raytracing IIRC, which the 'eck simply does not support. And RE9/Pragmata are clear 'eck victories: 800p vs 360p with similar performance (40 FPS vs 45 FPS)
>>737230563>Switch 2>play ONE multiplatform game at better image quality and framerate>get access to a small handful of exclusives>give up thousands upon thousand of other multiplatform games and exclusives>Deck>Play ONE multiplatform game at worse image qiality and framerate>get access to thousands upon thousands of multiplatform games and exclusives>give up a small handful of exclusivesthe choice literally writes itselfbut since you're e retard, the obvious choice is the deck>>737231162also thisand if you have a PC and buy a Switch 2, you certainly aren't going to use the SW2 to play pragmata
>>737230563I don't really see either of them as handheld.Switch Lite is the last handheld and even that is a bit too bulky.PSP, Vita and DS Lite are still kings of handhelds when it comes to size.
>>737230563Because it has access to most of my steam library. Until the switch can manage that, it's simply not a competitor.
>>737230563The Steam deck is actually unc'd out. Compare something newer.
>>737237368All PCtards do these days is sob and shit their pants about games not being ported to PC. And not even PC, steam specifically. It's a cult at this point.
>>737241465>he's hallucinating again.
>>737230563So- is this from *before* or *after* Valve fixed Linux VRAM usage so it no longer tanks FPS in videogames because stock Linux is retarded?Because if it's from before, you might want to take into account that the after gives in general a 50% perf increase, which would put the Deck at 40 FPS and 80 FPS average.
>>737230563>why would anyone even buy the over-glorified laptop over a proper handheld?Because I can play the pedophile game on my big Desktop PC with my wife.The 'Eck is for emulation and older than 2016 PC titles. Not for "new" games for pedophiles.
>360p native then upscaled>360p in 2026 bwahahahahaha DLSS friends are so fubar
>t. don't own an EckRetard question, but do "Eck verified" games mean that they're just the recommended settings from developers? Or is actual dev time put into the port jobs?
>>737230563>>737230674Why would I play brand new triple a games on either lol
>>737231582My 4060 runs it fine.
>>737232578in 2 weeks time, half life 3 will release as an exclusive for the frame, the gabecube and the deck
>>737236968Get out of here Denton!
>>737242968To get verified you have to meet criteria like the text being optimized for the resolution. It doesnt need separate deck settings, but some games have that. There may be a fps part to it, but if it is, it is fucking lax because there are verified games that drop below 30fps. Being verified basically means the game is playable, with a few exceptions like the Oblivion remaster. There are verified games that play awful and there are unverified games that run great. You are better off just youtubing gameplay vids if you are interested in a game than going by the check mark
>>737230563because I can play more, and better, games on the 'eck.
>>737230701RE "fans" do that, so yeah.
>>737231162I have both a PC and a Steam Deck and don't want a Switch 2.
>>737235672>>737241010But I thought power didn't matter?
>>737230563funny seeing most consoles and handhelds still going AMD cus it's slightly cheaper in the era of near mandatory AI upscaling
>>737244090I don't upscale. The end result looks like shit for FSR and DLSS alike.
>>737237437You can do that with your phone that everyone has
>>737243791This. I like to use moonlight to stream resource intensive games to my 'eck.Its nice to play vidya on the porch
>>737231162The smart move is to have a Deck, PC and Sw2 so you get the best of both worlds
>>737230563I own both and use them for different things. Consope warring is gay.
>>737230563Sold my Steam DeckFriends with Ayn Thor now I will buy a new Deck when it uses RDNA5. Not RDNA 3.5 tranny shit. Not RDNA 4.5 copelet cores. I want a GPU architecture that isn't deliberately chosen to be obsolete on day one and its support cut off the next week.Fuck AMD and fuck Lisa Su, cheap greedy cunt. Astronomical profit margins but she's still hawking that third-term abortion of a GPU she has the ovaries to call RDNA 3.5.
>>737246091buh buh based. Deck is weak and shitty, I wanna sell mine too. I can just stream to something else.
>>737244090Fsr diamond is going to finally beat dlss!
>>737246091If it uses the medusa point chips, it is rdna 4m Aka 3.5 but we rebranded it.It probably isnt using medusa point since they arent the tdp that valve is looking for.
I don't understand console wars.
>>737247296a vestigial baby duck attachment for late 90s and 00s kids
>>737247296Tendies have no games to play so they have to resort to doing that
>>737247431Shut the fuck up consolewarrior
>>737247459>consolewarriorI'm playing pragmata on my second PC monitor right now you subhuman tendie
>>737241489>>Switch 2>>give up thousands upon thousand of other multiplatform games and exclusiveslad I don't think you're remotely aware of the Switch 1 & 2 library if you honestly believe thisDeck is also a big fucking meme in the sense that there is ZERO guarantee that the games you buy may work out of the box, and fuck trying to troubleshoot things. That's for losers.
theyre all gayI don't get why capcom hates fps capsstable 30 fps>>>>>>>>> game shitting itself constantly going from 50 to 30 frames
>>737247781>Deck is also a big fucking meme in the sense that there is ZERO guarantee that the games you buy may work out of the boxBut there is, just use Valve's curated list. I know it's incomplete and there are games that just werk despite being rated as "unplayable" by Valve, but you CAN have a console-like experience
>>737247897Pretty much this. Also, weird that tendies suddenly pretend to have standards after 30 millions of them bought the objectively broken Pokemon SV. If that game played like that on 'ick, it would never get into the curated list.
>>737230563How come none of those screens say 60?
>>737247897The curated list is a joke and I sold my Deck a few years prior since it was overall an inferior experience to the Switch 1 back then. Both EDF6 and DJMax had issues despite being approved by Valve for instance.There is no basically no point for me to stick to PC gaming these days as everything I do care is on Nintendo, even the one indie game that got my interest (Homura Hime) was announced to come on Switch 2 later.
>>737230563DLSS > FSR >XeSSThis is known.
>>737248192Which kiketuber spoonfed you wrong information?
>>737248151the human eye cannot distinguish anything above 47 fps
>>737230563Wait, why would an adult buy a switch to begin with? My kids dont run demanding games so I have no need for a switch 2.
>>737230563>tendies so utterly desperate to consolewar and shitpost because they're retards who have nothing and care more about getting dicked down by nintendo than video gamesThread should have ended here >>737234716But of course they can't respond to that.
>>737248341fuck off
>>737237024The Deck IS better for a shitload of reasons, and no amount of tendie tears can change that You retards are massive hypocritical lolcows.
>Haven't been able to buy a Steam Deck new for the past 6 months>admin sanctioned literal daily threads (I've been banned for a week for saying this shit is retarded) screeching at people to not get a steam deckThis board has a serious management problem
>>737242968Verified basically means the game runs well on SteamOS, it doesn't have much to do with performance. Though Valve does seem to be addressing that in a few new ways.
>>737247781You have no clue what you're talking aboutAnd you give up a fuckload of games if you only have a Switch, its library is microscopic compared to PC
>>737248192Utterly delusional. Nintendo has brainwashed you real well.You haven't the faintest clue how good the deck keeps getting with actual support by both valve and the community, it puts consoles to absolute shame.
>>737232578Exclusivity is a jewish concept to take advantage of their cattle to force them to buy gimped, locked down redundant shitboxes nobody would otherwise want. Good goy.
>>737248383Dunno, it has no games. But some people will just run out and buy the brand with zero thought because the marketing told them to.
>>737249267>You have no clue what you're talking about. And you give up a fuckload of games if you only have a SwitchAbsolutely not, outside of old PC games which can run on any non-gaming laptop at this point. Same for retro emulators and those are available on mobile too (except PCSX2 since the nightly versions are way matured compared to what's present on Android)Even then, Switch 1+2 has far enough games of my liking for me to last a fucking lifetime. Deck was a meme that I got fooled into purchasing
>>737243217that would be stupidwould be funny if valve chose to herd the goyim away from the microjeet meatgrinder and made it linux only
>>737249846>outside of old games, emulators and the general improved functionality of doing it on a pc, there's nothing you're missing out on
>>737249846>Absolutely notYes, you absolutely do. To try and claim otherwise is completely delusional. PC's library doesn't just dwarf every Nintendo console combined, it includes 99.99% of those console games as well.
>>737230563Why is the benchmark always a random, AAA, third party game? You people actually play new AAA games? That's the benchmark for shit taste.
>>737247824The deck can cap it itself in its power management settings.
>>737248882This board is dogshit, but honestly, the general population is too fucking brain-rotted at this point to maintain a higher level of discourse without stronger moderation (which would be just a shit). Almost anything Nintendo related is posted to farm engagement...for reasons that I don't understand. And unfortunately, the Deck qualifies as "Nintendo related" because someone memed it as the Switch killer. The vast majority of the board doesn't own a Deck and has never touched a Deck. It's all disingenuous.
>>737250703With how dead this board has become these days and the fact it's dedicated to video games and does not represent the casual normalfag demographic, I wouldn't be surprised if a substantial percentage of the board has a deck.
>>737246091I only use my launch day steam deck to stream my desktop anyway. I'm just FUCKING mad they released the OLED with no upgrade path from the original LCD.I don't NEED the better battery.I don't NEED the better cooling.I just want the 90hz screen and the HDR so I don't have to turn it off on my monitor every time I stream from my PC with steam remote. I'd even buy a Steam Deck OLED Lite at this point with less RAM and shit but was just focused on streaming and playing 2d indie shit.
>>737250946To be fair, a "substantial percentage" still probably wouldn't be that high for the Deck.
>>737251003You should yell at valve, they often listen.Could be complete coincidence but I complained about not being able to organize my library by sort names on their forum for some steamos update and in the next update they added it.
>>737230563>>737230731Why does high res matter on a tiny screen?
congrats on beating 4 year old hardware i guess
>>737251362It didn't, lolIt's more desperately disingenuous tendie shitposting>>737234716
>>737250703>Everything that makes us look retarded is a psyop but also the meanie steam deck said it would kill the nintendo >:(
>>737236874wow, she looks fucking SOULLESS on the switch 2, goddamn. And that hair is just terrible.
>>737230563Yeah, I'm simply waiting on the Steam Deck 2.
>>737241465Even with starwars outlaws, half of the assets in the environment are removed in the switch version lmao. meanwhile the deck runs the full PC version.
>>737230563>gimping the deck to run it with fsr to try and use dlss to make the s2 look better>essentially gloating over 360pPathetic. This game runs native at 800p 40-60fps on the deck. Tendies perpetual asshurt over this thing because they KNOW its better, both by all their old fanboy arguments they spammed during the switch 1 days and all the snoy arguments they try to spam now, is a beautiful sight to behold. Please keep embarrassing yourselves, it's free admission to a circus.
>>737235738Xbox is such an embarrassment. I'm glad it's dead.
>>737236874Christ, diana looks like a sims 3 potato on switch 2
>>737242887I went back to CRTs. Modern gaming is retarded.
>>737230563>why would anyone even buy the over-glorified laptop over a proper handheld?to play video games.
>>737232384that's FSR 3, FRS 4.1 is on part with DLSS, Njeet-san
>>737230563>proper handheld?>shit screen>shit battery capacity>shit ergonomics>proper handheld
>>737242968It's better to use the protondb plugin to get real information
>>737249846>Outside of the thousands of games+mods+true indies there is nothing on pc
getting real tired of these ninjeets trying to piggyback on PC and falseflagging with these gay ass posts pretending like they already belong, since their shitboxes can't compete with other shitsoles.we don't want your kind here either, nigger trash.
>>737234716Huh so OP is a lying subhuman piece off shit?
>>737230563>Cheaper, four year old hardware less powerful than new, more expensive hardwareYou don't say
>>737230674isn't the current generation composed of lonely shut-ins? I am very surprised at how successful handhelds are when their only benefit is gaming on the go.
>>737231162but switch 2 only has mario kartthat's a lot to spend on one game
Steamdeck is so old it's already deprecated and they don't sell it anymore.Why do they still sell switch 2's when it's already old hardware?
>>737230563diana's hair quality on the switch 2 is what held me back from buying pragmata
>>737231162I would never buy a switch 2, or any nintendo console for that matter.If there's even one good game for it I'll pirate it in 5 years I don't really care it's not worth spending any money on.Whens switch getting crimson desert?
>>737230563The Stem Dick was already obliterated when 'ick on 'eck happenedThe Steam kek never recovered from that
>>737257774The deck has more mario kart than the switch 2 does hilariously enoughWorld is also terrible anyway, horrible thing to waste half a grand on
>>737256631>switch 2 doesn't get a game>w-we're buddies right? nintendo + pc forever!>switch 2 gets a game>reeeeeee deckies and pc vegans kneel before our minimum settings glorious 360p 40fps!
>>737257875I can see why the Deck 2 will be an off-the-shelf chip.
>>737258702every single goddamn release for this goddamn tablet of theirs is allowed to get 20+ threads on the catalogue at any single time where they pretend they've won and it's over for everyone else like the trannies they are, they simply cannot fathom ever using a non-walled garden platformthe faggot mods even allow them to have their own steamcharts version if fagmitsu and it's never ever deletednintendo needs its own containment board and everyone that posts in it should be perma'd
>>737259095I think we should just honestly ban Xbots since they're the retards pushing the console warring. Xbots shouldn't even be on this website, Xbox is dead, so why are they allowed to be here. It's a Nintendo, PlayStation, and PC board, not an Xbox board, and PC is Steam, not Xbox. Moving Xbox to PC won't save Xbox, Microsoft.
>>737259725consoles don't belong here at all.
>>737259795This. Consoletards can't even access this site without having to use a better device.
>>737230563>newer device is faster than older device>DLSS looks better than FSRwooooowwwwwww
>>737259795Xbox is the cancer, there was never a console vs PC war before that piece of shit, get rid of Xbox, get rid of Microsoft, get rid of Xbots, and the site will heal over night. Xbots shouldn't be allowed to own PCs, Nintendo consoles, or PlayStations. They must be priced out of everything. They must own nothing.
>>737260287>newer device is faster than older deviceIf only. Deck runs it native. OP is a fag as always. The only game the switch2 runs better than the deck is outlaws due to its forced raytracing on pc.
>>737244257>You can do that with your phone that everyone hasIf wanted to used shaky detachable controls, I'd but a Switch 2.
>>737260501see >>737259795your personal vendetta against a specific cell does not lessen the cancer.
>>737236874the hair on the right makes more sense, left looks like a tutorial gone wrong
>>737230563The keywords here are FSR vs. DLSS. Both games are running at the same resolution, probably at the same settings (minimum lol) and the only difference is one implements an actually capable upscaling solution while the other has to make do with the crap freeware alternative.
>>737260861Xbox is the cancer, it's been the cancer since 2001, gaming is finally starting to heal because that piece of shit is finally dying. Shame it's going to take many studios with it. Gonna laugh when Helix doesn't even get Steam, so Xbots will be left with nothing.
>>737261007holy cope
>>737259725Honey it's just a pc board, every single person her actively understands console players are just niggers, browns, poors and minorities. Every pc player is already aware of games that have cross play, because they will disable it immediately, because if they don't, their lobbies are instantly ruined with people who speak a barely passable form of English and sometimes as their second language.
I have a PC and a deckI play games like these on PC because to me it seems they're more big screen appropriate.The deck I use for titles that would fit better on a handheld.If I bought a switch 2 I would only get better performance on games that I would play on PC at least 75 times better anyways. So it seems more pointless to me.However if I was told "go play Void Stranger on PC" I'd say no, it feets something like the deck, or even a smaller platform.Also, since I have a humongous library of games already on Steam, and also pirated, I can play a lot of those already there. Cloud saves work on both systems. If I ever decided to play a game on PC instead of the deck temporally or viceversa (as I do sometimes with Slay the spire 2), my saves are synchronized. Can't do that with the switch 2. No, I'd have to buy 2 copies anyways or choose 1 platform and stick with that one.
>>737264225>it feetsSorry my head was clearly somewhere else
>>737231784More like RT On is a part of the game's intended look and RT Off is just a compromise they didn't spend as much time on. Losing only 10% performance for Ray Tracing is incredibly light weight. The hair tech is more demanding than that and people don't complain that the shitty hair is shitty on purpose.Anything that can run on the PS5 version can be considered the entry level, anything below that is just an optional compromise to make minimum requirementes lower.
>>737251259You are a god.
