I've seen a lot of my favorite game franchises raped to death over the years (Command & Conquer, Madden, Total War, Ratchet & Clank) but holy shit what the FUCK was Firaxis thinking with Civ VII? It looks and plays like a fucking zogged clash of clans free mobile game. Sid Meier is still alive and he really let them release this pile of shit at full price??
>>737231154I’m sorry I enjoy total war warhammer
>>737231154Melty while the game clearly underperformed and they were killing the ages thing with recent patch.Dogshit thread.
I loved it. I had to uninstall it because I was playing it for up to 10 hours per day. My only complaint is that by locking civs to later eras I never get to hear their awesome music.
>>737231154they really dropped the ball with this one. its so bad its irrelevant in the world of strategy games. games like this can't compete with grand strategy games like Stellaris, Europa Universalis, and Crusader Kings
>>737231154Firaxis weren't thinking, they were just blindly copying amplitude since that worked out ok for them with civ 6
>>737231154I think they saw that Humankind game in development and thought it was going to eat their lunch so they pivoted hard to compete with it.By the time Humankind came out and more or less flopped, Civ7 was too far along to completely change course.
>>737231367>>737231415>we should copy the less successful company, said the industry titanstill completely baffling
>>737231154People really overfocus on the civ switching shit. 7 had way worse problems that were completely ignored and will be present in future games.
>>737231471Have they fixed the UI yet or is it still god awful?
>>737231241What are you talking about? I just checked Steam and it currently has less than 1/3 the active players that Age of Empires 2 did a game that came out when I was 5 years old. What an absolute disaster. I loved Civ 2, 3 and 6 (4 and 5 were just okay imo) but 7 is a pile of dogshit. It's not even the arguably woke direction the game has gone with all the shoehorned browns it looks fucking ugly and the world simply isn't fun to explore. How did they ruin even the early/exploration phase which was always the best part of Civ games?
>>737231471Most people didn't buy it, the civ switching is so dogshit it turned a lot of people off.If you still have faith they can produce a GOOD GAME in the future, even with good feedback, that's on you bud
>>737231626>Age of empirePretty sure he meant civ switching thing, you know, what they toned down, hoping people would buy and play Civ7
Please tell me they released this as a jokePlease tell me it didn't take them 8 years to develop this
>>737231154I just learned my favorite song comes from this game series. Been listening to it for years without knowing.
>>737232090>8 yearsThey clearly didn't. They pivoted their team to it when Suns crashed and burned. They were happy putting out leader packs for civ6 before that.
what do you mean, Civilization series stopped at fourth installment?
>>737231154Just mad cause you got nuked by President Harriet Tubman
>>737231334>paraslop trannies actually believe thislmao
>>737232348This. Civ 5 was effectively the start of a new franchise give how badly it blew all the crap before it out of the water. I personally refer to it as Superior Civ 1
>>737232090I saw somewhere that it was in development for around 3 years before launch and some of that time went towards the fucking console and mobile versions.
>>737232617>and some of that time went towards the fucking console and mobile versions.That's objectively the correct thing to do considering the vast majority of Civ 6 sales were on Switch.
>>737232206What song
>>737232090>fartsmelling room the gameNo wonder that some games are like this, teams work on projects without any real critique/constrictive response, just shareholders bullshit.>>737232348>>737232460Civ5 with all dlcs is a good game and last that posed any threat ai-wise, especialy when you consider mods.I know that civ3 and 4 are oldfags pick and the hill to die on, but still if you compare civ6 to civ5 its like mobile game to pc one. Every civ game since 5 tried to change almost perfect formula that didnt change that much before, some changes were good, but many were a miss. After 6 game become a solitare and even with all ai mods it pose 0 difficulty.
>>737232206based baba yetu fan
>737232663Some of the bait on this website is so insanly shit it blows past being pathetic and just becomes sad.
>>737233025Baba Yetu, its unironically a 10/10 song in all ways. >>737233164brother
>>737231471If a feature is so blindingly, glaringly, obviously SHIT that it makes 95% of potential buyers not even CONSIDER buying your game, then it's a fucking problem anon!Like if they made a call of duty game with no guns where you just ran around knifing people, you'd be saying shit like "Wow people really overfocus on the lack of guns, when the game has bigger problems with level design and matchmaking" no you fat fucking retard! You ugly, disgusting pseud. The civ switching is the problem with this game. It is antithetical to the entire concept of the series.
>>737233801I love Baba Yetu. You should check out the Civ 6 and 7 title music as well, they're very different but they're made by the same composer.6: https://youtu.be/WQYN2P3E06s7: https://youtu.be/KaGKJT2_ZF0
>>737231442Marketing probably saw it as an easy win to pump out regular dlc with even less effort put behind it than the leader/civ packs of 5 & 6 and pushed for it: I don't think it's a coincidence amplitude only introduced that mechanic after they got bought out by sega. Firaxis were likewise following the money while being arrogant enough to think they could get away with something so antithetical to the central conceit of a 4x game. Everything else fucked about civ 7 just dug the grave deeper
>>737233907Its fucking scary how those companies function, same with movie biz. One guy with 15 yes-mens echo chambers. Im really curious if anyone from team tried to challange this shit at all.
>>737234119Those were amazing that guy can't miss. Here's one for you, not Civ, but still really good in the vein of baba yetu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DybCZvW1mBoI used to work an overnight job and I'd play this song every day timed to the rising sun, to me this is what the dawn is.
>>737231154>what the FUCK was Firaxis thinking with Civ VII?mass appeal to the mid-20s non-gamer smartphone female and streamer crowd.
>>737231620No this kind of bloated, ugly, minimalist UI design has been the trendy thing for 5 years and will continue to be so for another 5-10 until a new fad takes over.
I wonder if their retarded idea of race/culture mixing was just a bad attempt at innovating or it was an actual DEI donation. People hated Civ 6's hexagon city building but once they got over it and dlcs hit the game actually became good.
>>737231154WTF would I want to play as Cleopatra leading the Norman civilization? Whoever greenlit this steaming turd deserves genital mutilation.
>>737234559That song is really chill. I like it.
>>737234918it was 100000% DEI, its just an excuse to have a black character ruling england. we wuz the game
>>737234918The district system (aside from canals and harbors) is still something that makes me quit every attempt at playing civ6 after like the rennaisance era, even if I like some of the systems, like resource stockpiles and climate.
>>737234918it was the most blatant example of DEI in the history of gaming. Oh you're playing as rome, egypt, the franks? time to switch to playing Obongo or Abdul, the true successors of western civilization!!Jew fatigue is reaching its global peak so even though this game flopped I'm surprised it sold as many copies as it did
>>737231154I know people auto hate this game, but as someone who's played it a lot, I recently played the workshop build where they completely overhauled progression and added triumphs for more freedom of play calculation, and it's been way better, can't wait for it to fully release in a month or two
>>737234918I never got over it, I tried 6 several times and never got past turn 100, there were just too many things that annoyed me to overlook
UH OH, STINKY!
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Kinda off-topic but I really hate how rare navigable rivers are in this game. It was one of my most anticipated features prior to release and they completely blew it for no good reason.
>>737231154>Civ swinging
>>737232090Civ VI somehow looks even worse. I prefer VII's look.Too bad they apparently made VII braindead, probably because they wanted to make it playable on mobile.
Harriet Tubman leads RomeIn Civilization 7
>>737231626I don't trust the ratings. Each Civ game should be treated as a brand new standalone game rather than a sequel to the previous installments.While I only liked Civ 4 and disliked 5 and 6, I don't think it warrants a negative review.
>>737232090its a very elaborate jokeyou need a very high IQ to understand its intricacies
The moment they revealed this shit was when they lost meAmazing level of retardation
>>737231154>Be Firaxis>Copy Humankind game mechanic that everyone hated>Scratch head when Civ 7 flopsWhoever is the DEI game lead that made this decision needs to be beat up really bad.
>>737239893They're reworking it so you can play every civ from start to finish in a single run now anyway so they fucking wasted their time with this dumb shit
They should really improve on civilizations furtherRoman > Moors > SpainRoman > Byzantine > TurkeyRoman > Byzantine > ItalyRoman > Holy Roman > GermanyPhoenicia > Carthage > TunisiaHeian > Meiji > JapanZhou > Tang > ChinaGoguryeo > Meiji > KoreaHarappa > Mughal > IndiaPersia > Timurid > IranTupi > Portugal > BrazilPueblo > Aztec > Mexicoetc.
>>737239893>Buganda (pic related) in the base game>Great Britain is DLCI'm glad their game has failed
>>737239893its really funny at least
>>737239893nobody contributed to humanity as much as the scientists and engineers of Buganda
Choose your character
>>737240692They all look like such a downgradeSay what you want about VI and the leaders not having a background, but at least they were well-animated and expressiveThese look like some generic 3D assets they bought online
>>737240782>well-animated and expressiveThat's one way to say it, I prefer "look like badly done taxidermy with forced animation"
>>737240692>added Japan as the industrial era civ>didn't include Meiji as the leaderThey goofed up big time with this.
>>737241290>forced animationwhat did he mean by this
>>737233034I thought oldfags liked Civ2 over Civ3. 3 was the first one I played and I remember it being regarded as a weaker entry.
>>737231154I don't care. I posted about what a stupid mechanic civ switching was before launch and got downvoted into oblivion so these chucklefucks can go fuck themselves. Enjoy your game retards.
>>737242297Go back
Does Sid-chan still have any influence whatsoever on the series?
>>737242297>caring about downboatsIf your feeling is that fragile then you don't belong here, faggot
>>737242624Who said I'm mad? It's schadenfreude for me. Monkeys made their own bed and now they have to lie in it. I'll just keep playing the superior earlier games.
>>737239893>egypt randomly turning into mongolia like all foreign people are interchangeableThat is somehow simultaneously the most woke and most racist thing ever.
>>737242529I don't think he's been a real part of the franchise after Civilization IHe has some "consultant" role in all of them but I'm certain he doesn't actually do shit beyond lending his name
>>737242624Exact opposite, actually: this is the perfect place for people petrified of downvotes since it's impossible to get them
>>737244676>since it's impossible to get themCommit sudoku.
>>737246658Mean replies are not equivalent to downvotes. Downvotes go on a permanent record and make your posts less visible.
>>737247350It also makes your posts less visible here tho. It's worse than being outright ignored I would argue. And to a frequent user of places where downvoting exists this is even worse.
>>737247668>It also makes your posts less visible here tho.More visible actually, especially if you link your replies like you did. People replying at all is a form of reward here, regardless of the content of the reply.>And to a frequent user of places where downvoting exists this is even worse.Simply not true. This is a place where there is never any punishment or penalty for people disagreeing with you. That's kind of the point of the site. Reddit is a place where there is a tangible, permanent punishment that you get if you ever say anything more than 50% of people disagree with. And that is the cause of all the differences between the sites.
>>737240476This game was genuinely the first time I heard about this literally who
>>737231626>Age of Empires 2 did a game that came out when I was 5 years oldBad example, AoE2 has been in active development for a while now, it's like calling League of Legends a 2009 gameEven comparing it within the franchise is better
I love how civ 6 babbies try so hard to fit in >le civ 7 ruined everythingFuck off. 6 manages to be WORSE than 75 was the peak
>>737231154In 2126 when they make Civilization 104 they can finally have CIV CIV
>>737248182Sorry, there is no game that's worse than Civ 7. Civ 7 is the bottom layer of hell.
>>7372481826's big problem was the cartoonish artstyle. Beyond that it actually managed to do a lot of things better than V did.
>>737240782civ v wins again
>>737248378Civ 6 isn't even a game. Its AI is too dogshit.
>>737248182based, got it for free on egs and I still felt ripped off. looked like shit and played like shit.
>>737248182>5 was the peakSpoken like a true 5 babby4 is the peak, 5 is the most casual piece of shit game in the series
i like how they did that panic update that removed the civ switching bullshit and wiped their hands as if it's now "engoodened" even though there are still like a million other things that still make the game bad the UI sucks, the faux battle pass things are embarrassing, and it still has the problem where the game basically hard resets twice
>>737248441It's not like V's is substantially better
>>737248773While far from stellar I find that V on Deity would compete with you until the end, especially Hiawatha and Catherine. In VI, they bumrush you with their starting warriors, either instantly killing you or losing because they don't function properly. Half the AI empires die to fucking barbarians.V also has vox populi now, something VI lacks. Going by vanilla AI VII trumps them all.
>>737248905The only time you should be competitive with the AI in V is in the earlygame. As soon as you hit Compound Bowmen the AI cannot beat a human player militarily, and the AI shouldn't be keeping pace with you technologically because a human can simply rush Radio and completely outstrip the AI using Ideology bonuses.I haven't played VP so I can't comment on that but I really disagree with the premise that the AI of 5 could ever put it over 6, 5's AI is just as bad at "playing" Civ as 6's is and 5 is easier for the player to break, imo.
VI has more charm than 5.
>>737249202Composite Bowmen not Compound. I had a brainfart
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>>737235978>>737236024this is really the defining factor; the playerbase collectively decided NOT to move on to the next installment. while there was some pushback with the multiplayer scene moving from 5 to 6 as soon as the DLCs came out everyone moved over to 6. even with DLCs nobody is going to move to 7.
>>737232090Correct me if I'm wrong but I heard that they had a totally different build that was already in development but were forced to scrap it and start over.
>>737248598>4 was the peakSpoken like a true 4 babby3 is the peak, 4 is the most casual piece of shit game in the series
>>737249365I think even V has more players right nowa fucking 16 year old game
>>737240225>They're reworking it so you can play every civ from start to finish in a single run nowsource? What's the catch?I refuse to believe anything in AAA is actually backtracking on retarded DEI and/or anti-player shit. There's going to be some dumbass fucking catch
>le cartoony hateI hate realism-fags so fucking much.
>>737250481Kino
>>737248134It's an American thing. She's the niggress who wouldn't sit at the back of the bus or something.
>>737248905>>737248773Both 5 and 6 suck because of artificial one-unit-per hex limit. That makes zero fucking sense, thoses hexes are like a hundred miles across. You could fit all the armies in the world inside one of them.
>>737231178because you are a retard
>>737239893Isny part of the fun of this franchise picking a single civ and developing into it a winning condition?
>>737231154Stfu and wait for the latest update That's what I'm doing anyway game is kind of meh rn currently
>>737231154civ died after civ4civ 5 was ok in its own unique way but it wasn't a civ game and it was all downhill from there
So if I wanted to play Civ as a new player, which one should I get?Please consider that I will pirate the expansions instead of paying hundreds of dollars even on sale for everything.
>>737233907For me the instant turn off wasn't civ switching itself, but what Firixis showed for it:> Egypt - Mongolia - BugandaAt that point it was clear that they were going for a tone deaf niggerfest.Otherwise, I'm not sure people would oppose to some historically sensible switching mechanic.
>>737250262>3 was the peakSpoken like a true 3 babby2 is the peak, 3 is the most casual piece of this game in the series
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>>737251814Literally everything between 2 and 6 is great. And most of those cost like two bucks with expansions so you might as well get them all and just see which one you like.
>>737231154Now the question is, how will they fuck up XCOM3?>le woke aliensbut are they going to make a gameplay mistake as catastrophic to the identity of the franchise as civ switching? what would that even look like? discuss.
>>737251072she was part of the underground railroad but her infamy in american history is largely a fabricated grift that started in the 90's
>>737252906You play as the aliens
>>737253187Well I wouldn’t mind having alien units that’s something xcom2 mods have done to great effect.Ig if every unit was an alien it would start to get old
>>737253395nO i MEAN YOU LITERALLY PLAY AS THE ALIENS you invade earth and xcom fights you
>>737253416That would be pretty dumb yeah. Unless it’s like a “choose your campaign” type thing but even that would probably be too far a departure.
>put a slave next to emperors, kings and presidentsVery interesting move to present as a "world leader" a person who couldn't even govern herself.
>>737253657Well the idea was to not be limited to world leaders…but it wasn’t the best decision regardless.
>>737240398Just to be clear that was built in 1994 because the original was burned down multiple times
>>737250469They're less powerful outside of their peak era but you get some buffs from their tech trees to balance them with others I believe
>>737251691Yeah, and everyone already made that argument and were proven completely correct with Humankind. With that game it was an obvious bad idea that shouldn't have happened, but Firaxis choosing to copy it with Civ AFTER that game had already come out and flopped was truly insane.
>>737251814as a completely new player i would start with 4 or 5 to get a grip on things. if you really like 5 try vox populi. if you get bored of both of those or you want to engage in multiplayer play 6.
>>737253657Really, they should've included George Floyd as a playable leader too.
>>737257653That would go against their modern leaders rule
Yo I want to play civ 4 as a ZoomerShould I play Vanilla or Realism Invictus >>737251814I started with 5 but 6 is pretty good Wait for 7 new update
>>737231154I never understood why the games never included chemical and biological weapons as a unit when they allow for thermonuclear ICBMs
>>737240398>>737253728makes me laugh that lone youtubers like primitive technology have built themselves brick houses, meanwhile this is considered a wonder in civ 7
>>737231442It worked out really well with CIV6. Also what you said is pretty stupid.
>>737232090You didn't even get the best one.
>>737248134>not knowing the american pantheon of gods very racist
>>737258406I hate 4x games insisting that diplomacy needs to be a resource.
>>737259980I know, right? And euros call americans ignorant of other cultures. Smdh
