Where do I have fun now? Classic is just boring and Blizzard does not offer Classic+ and I already play Retail from time to time so do not tell me to go there.I do not care about your pserver related drama, I just need another game like WoW from 2004 but updated.
>>737234792Looking forward to Conquest of Azeroth, assuming Blizz doesn't shut that down too.
>>737234792blizzard is launching their own classic+ server so why not wait for that...?
Play a better genre of video games
play a real game and move on with your life. it's 2026. you are in your 40s. move the fuck on
>>737234792play some good fucking games instead of world of slopcraft, you fucking addict
>>737234952i want classic+ not classic-
>>737234952>still giving money to blizzard
>>737234952even if their vision of classic+ was any good and they implemented it well (will never happen I know but bare with me) they'd still allow boosting and gdkp while allowing bots and cheaters to run rampant
>>737234952i would rather eat my own legs than give pozzard a cent
>>737234952nu Blizzard dont have the talent or passion for that. Just let it go
>>737235061Quote from man with no legs who has given literally hundreds of dollars to blizzard
>>737234792all the p2w-defenders deserve it. get fucked, niggers
>>737234792Turtle XIV
>>737235106>i've already given then hundreds of dollars so i'll give them another hundoworld's smartest blizzdrone
>>737234952
>>737234952New features: Dungeon finder, body type A and B + pronouns selector (anyone who ignores your pronoun field is reportable), one button auto rotation, flying mounts, every class has their current retail spellbook, new bugs to never be fixed. Am I missing anything?
>>737235052imagine crying because some failure decides to get boosted. i genuinely cannot understand why you would care. as for the bots, i've heard rumors that the bots are far more rampant on classic than on retail, and the bots even go so far as to mass report people for fucking with their profits/taking nodes etc. it's probably just retarded rumors but sounds like the type of thing blizzard is too incompetent to do anything about
>>737235215Blood elves and horde paladins
WoW is dead. Retoilet somehow managed to combine two worst attributes of modern online communities into one game (carebear censorship and troon enabling where you can't say anything funny, edgy or controversial + eSports tryhard parsing that minmaxes the fun and social aspects out of the game). Classic is literally retail mini with more bots and credit card swiping. All good and promising pservers get hit with cease and desist. Epoch WoWs first few weeks had more fucking soul than I've seen in all of Blizzard in the last 15 years.
Reminder that if you play anything up-to 4.3.4 client you have an active RCE exploit active on your PC whenever you connect to a WoW Private Server.Reminder that if you do patch your wow.exe with an RCE Patcher certain servers that rely on the RCE to push custom content won't let you connect; https://files.catbox.moe/c9dmee.pngWarmane Staff confirming that they do in fact use the RCE for their Onyxia Realm; https://files.catbox.moe/q4tqo7.png (this means whenever you connect to their server your PC has an active RCE)Also just another fun-fact for the new people that still don't know that Molten/Warmane does in fact fake their population; https://files.catbox.moe/v71s3k.pngYou should never EVER play Private Servers outside of a Virtual Machine, nor invest actual time and effort into them.
>>737235238>. i genuinely cannot understand why you would care.Because not having people in the game world ruins the MMO experience, boostie
>>737235260implying wow addicts have anything worth hacking
>>737235238I don't like that zones are empty and no one is grouping for dungeons because they're all standing at the SM meeting stone buying boosts with RMT gold
>>737235106>How dare you learn from your mistakes, you are supposed to repeat them forever?????
>>737235249Fuck I miss epoch. The community was so alive, people typed and joked in game grouping up for these insane respawn timers and elite quests while also trying to figure out how to do the new content. The game became shit once modders released a working questie and everyone hit 50+ and realized there's no custom content past 50 but it was still full of soul that I haven't seen in WoW since forever
>>737235215
>>737235282>>737235340sounds like a skill issue. maybe you should play with your friends? wait
>>737235370This is a good thing, screw faction locked classes.
>>737235439>screw there being anything different between the 2 different factionsRETARD
>>737235013Make better games and I will
come to think of it boosting is fundamentally incompatible with classic+ as a conceptthere is no point adding new zones, dungeons or quests when everyone is just going to boost and never see them
Apologize
>>737235468>different towns, zones, quests, transportation>nooo classes are the only difference!RETPALA
>>737234792Warmane and Tauri for a normal wow experience with no extra fluffs.Warmane is in Wrath and has high player numbersTauri has 3 servers: classic, wrath and legion, but classic and wrath have no playersAscensions for extra content that isn't like retail. They have a classless system and it's a lot of fun to mess around with, but if you want to do dungeons and raids without getting removed from groups, you need to use some specific builds made for minmaxxing which makes it pretty boring. Also has p2w elements.If you want to play casually without needing to worry about other players, you can check out the Single Player Project, where you can host your own server and play all expacs up to legion and on the older ones you can play alongside bots who party up, do quests, run dungeons and bgs and etc (you can invite them, trade with them, pvp with them, you can even raid with them.). You can even have friends connect to your server through lan or after port-forwarding, basically turning wow into a singleplayer-coop rpg. You can also try your hand at making your own mods, which is also a lot of fun.
>>737235578The thing I love most about playing Warcraft 3 is how all the races have exactly the same units, what a great game where everything is homogenized and stale
>>737235549WHOMEGALUL
>>737235549molten core soon pochiebros, we're going back!
>>737235549they won't apologize for selling to Ass-enscion or having such a dogshit launch
>>737234952What kind of fucking faggot willingly gives money to Blizzard?
>>737234952>paying for blizzard slop
>>737235659>Tauri has 3 servers: classic, wrath and legion,Is Legion out already? I thought they were on WoD prepatch.
>>737234792just play turtlewow on your own computer bro
>>737235664WoW isn't an RTS, you can't switch between factions every 30 minutes to play the other class, at least not if you want to reach 60 in a reasonable amount of time.
>>737235260>Client edits without needing to distribute a patchBut Turtle WoW distributed their own patchesa nothingburger then
fuck blizzard
>>737235370>The Horde and Alliance being different warring factions? No! I don't want that! I want us to join hands together and never fight for ten years, at least!
>>737235945>missing the entire point of MMOsyou'd feel right at home in retail
>>737235945How?
>>737236037I don't blame them for removing leeches off their back
>>737236063>gets some friends to connectWhat now?
>>737235920according to their website they are. I haven't played since they switched from mop, so I can't confirm for sure.
>>737236057That's not what that survey question is about moron
>>737236087Blizzard is their own biggest leech
>>737235959>WoW isn't an RTS, you can't switch between factions every 30 minutes to play the other classYou can actually, it's called making a new character, dipshit
>>737235945did you remake the custom content or were you able to get your hands on a turtle server repack? In either case, would you mind sharing it? my discord is atalmat
>>737235238because dad gamers and fags don't play the game
>>737235549Epoch proved that people really really REALLY want classic+. It's insane the amount of attention this server got when it couldn't even function.
>>737236087But Activision and Microsoft are still there?
>>737235659>>737235920>>737236112>Taurilollmao
>>737235945Must feel pretty lonely.
>>737236078Look in the previous threads bro, source code and server hosting got leaked in 2024 so now the only question is if it can be modded to accommodate the current version of the game.>>737236149see >>737231690
>>737236181You got it all wrong, Blizzard is riding Activision's back and Activision is riding Microsoft's back. They're symbiotes.
>>737236204>x15>x2Why do people do this
>>737236257It's a legion server too that's crazy
>>737236207There'll eventually be a "turtle-like" server that just hosts an older version of TurtleWoW or an attempt to restore the current version of the game. This is pretty much inevitable considering how popular it was and how much content it has.
>>737236112>>737236204They're using Legion client but you're stuck with WoD prepatch content that's why no one's playing. I imagine once Legion actually comes out people will come, especially with Turtle gone.
>>737236138>if you want to play this class then you can't play with your friendsThis is more ridiculous than gender-locked classes and gamers fought to get rid of that.
>>737236325We'll have fucking Legion Classic by the time Tauri actually has Legion fully running.
>>737234792plenty of other games to enjoy while you wait for the next freshjust dont give blizzard even a penny
>>737236325People who play Turtle have no interest in Legion, don't know what you're on about. They'll play a Turtle replacement. Hell, if these other Pservers were smart they'd jump on the opportunity to host their own Turtle/Mysteries of Azeroth/MoA realms.
>>737234952>Giving Blozzard moneyLol. Also Blizzard's WoW community is absolute dogshit. Literally the worst community out of any MMO.
>>737236368You may be right, but I'm never giving Blizzard a cent ever again.
>>737235434>Having a party of 4 friends is the same as seeing millions of players running around doing their own thingWhat are you, Jewish?
>>737234952If SoD is any indication, Aggrend and his retailites will ruin it.
>B-B-BUT I DON'T WANNA GIVE BLIZZARD MONEYanyone who makes posts like this is a genuine 3rd world poorfag
>>737236338>my friends can't also make characters on a different faction>I can't make new friends on the other faction>I can't just not play that class to play with my friends and play it when I'm not playing with themYou're autistic and probably brain damaged
>>737236408The community is pretty chill now that guys like you quit playing
doesn't every pserver claim to be untouchable, hosted in Russia behind 3000 proxies? I played on the server that popped up after Nostalrius and where everyone went to(Elysium?) and had a great time until it was fucked by chinks and then another similar server popped and that was it. I haven't played since.
>>737236490Why should anyone pay a company that hates them and produces trash?
>>737236490So true, goyim.
>>737234952Blizzard has been creatively bankrupt for over a decade now, IDK why people still give these troons money, all their games are shit now and they're currently fucking with D2, which will probably be unplayable by the end of the year
I'm confused, why doesnt Blizzard just license the use of their IP to 3rd party servers?
>>737236219This stuff works great.
>>737236576Because Blizzard is ran by stupid faggots from Activison and Microsoft. If they were smart, they would've considered something like Turtle's open letter and permitted "community servers" that follow certain guidelines. If they did that, they could happily C&D shit while still making people pay and people would get what they want to have. Hell, maybe the people running those servers would invest back into the game and develop better content than Blizzard have.
>>737236576They essentially do for WoW in China.
>>737236576Because why have some of the money when you could have all of the money
>>737235370this entire website is a fever dreamcasually browsing the world portion, every zone has multiple new dungeons. the kikes at blizz would never put that much effort or time into anything.
>>737236494Expecting your friends/guild to hop factions just so you can play a specific class is extremely self-centered. Which faction you play is something you all agree on before you start playing a server, you don't level on both factions at the same time.Get rid of faction-locked classes and this whole problem goes away.
>>737235515you are mentally damaged if you can only enjoy games made when you were a child
>>737236692yeah so why not do it everywhere? Actually the chinks probably forced them at DDoS-point now that I think about it
>>737236490based, white men buy every store mount
>>737236646Now that I think of it, why didn't Blizzard add high/blood elf lolis into the game? Huge missed opportunity.
>>737236490just consume and wait for the next product
>>737236785>Get rid of faction-locked classes and this whole problem goes away.It's not a problem though. Just play the class you want to play at different times. Or convince your friends to play that faction. Expecting that the lore and gameplay be ruined just to cater to you being the pussy in your friend group is more selfish.
>>737236819from memory severs went down in China for a while because some deal expired and the CCP demanded that if WoW wants to operate in China it needs to be under partial Chinese ownership (NetEase)so now theyve got that weird wotlk+ server that Wowhead keeps making articles about and absolutely refuses let you filter for some reason
>>737236850>more fucking barbie elves>a missed opportunitykill yourself asap faggot
>>737236850that model is directly ripped from tbc
>>737236912Nothing is ruined by having all classes available on both factions, it's just common sense.
>>737236983>Nothing is ruined by having all classes available on both factions, it's just common sense.Yeah anon undead paladins is just common sense and ruins nothing, blood elves on the horde is just common sense and ruins nothing.
>>737237084ESL momentIs there a single white classicfag?
>>737237084the blood elves allying with the forsaken makes perfect senseit's the forsaken joining the horde that was weird
>>737235549Epoch is so irrelevant that blizzard didn't bother to sue them
>>737237129If you couldn't understand that you're the ESL
>>737237084whats the problem with undead paladins when undead priests are already a thing
>>737234952>same shit but worse>pay subscription to blizzshit and be responsible for the enshittification of gamingHmm... nyo
>>737234952Honor died on the beach
How come so many people seem to think that people who played this shit ONLY play wow? I play lots of games, but I also like to revisit and mod games from the past that I enjoy too. Wow is no different. The amount of people only logging into world of warcraft private servers and nothing else has to be the extreme minority
>>737237084I would prefer shaman and paladin being faction exclusive, but I don't care that much. I do think blood elves and draenei were shit additions though
>>737237084Lore has to make room for gameplay, sorry. It's more important.Also people only hate belfs because they make the faction look more gay like the alliance. They should have added goblins instead
>>737237237Sure and why not orc paladins while we're at it, after all orcs can be warriors and humans can be warriors so they're basically the same, good one slippery slope anon
>>737237296>Lore has to make room for gameplay, sorry. It's more important.Yeah the game HAD to be ruined and made bad, sorry. Can't wait for classic+ to have dungeon finder and gearscore too
>completely mogs all troontle slop
>>737237348>they're still making wind chimesgood lord
>>737237308I cant help but notice you didn't actually answer my question
>>737237338If you showed me this without context I would 100% believe this is satire
>>737235370>>737235439this is why we'll have never have a good classic+ask any two faggots their ideal classic+ experience and you'll always get wildly different ideas at best, mutually exclusive at worstpeople unironically throw tantrums if you ever dare to change the balance so warriors aren't the king of tanks AND damage
>>737237308>>737237347If your only real argument is a slippery slope then you can't really do anything to the game, it has to be #nochanges or nothing. That's not what classic+ is, there is gonna be changes.
>>737237348see >>737237338
>>737237392priests are non-denominational
>>737237338abomination lives matter
>>737234952>Blizzard
>>737237432no, the slippery slope applies to changes that we already know have a bad outcome (retail)
>>737237465you think I know what that word means, fag?
>>737237436quest chatter is completely irrelevant compared to actual gameplay unless youre a woman
>>737237514retail is the best version of wow though?
>>737236490Soooo trueee sis! I'm gonna put a $50 bill in an envelope and mail it to Blizzard HQ just because of how not poor I am
>>737237179They did send a c&d to the original owner, who ran away leaving the project without devs. It hasn't been taken down because Ascension doesn't give a fuck.
>>737237536>the immersive properties of a game are irrelevant for an RPGlol I can only imagine what you must look like
>>737237602wow isnt an rpg, RPGs have actual choice and agency in the world which fetchquest slop doesnt offer
>>737237514That's why we pick the good features that offer the most amount of pros and the least amount of cons, like no faction-locked classes and dual-spec instead of dungeon finder and flying mounts.
>>737234952this!! already preordered epic edition with free max lvl boost and mount
>>737236928>so now theyve got that weird wotlk+ server that Wowhead keeps making articles about and absolutely refuses let you filter for some reasonI like how the only point of those articles is to ragebait>HEY HEY HEY LOOK AT THIS COOL SERVER CHINA HAS! TOO BAD YOU CAN'T PLAY IT THOUGH! ONLY IN CHINA!!! WE'LL KEEP MAKING ARTICLES ABOUT IT ANYWAY THOUGH!
>>737237672>cool server>doing molten bore AGAINbrainrot
>>737237536so true xister
>>737234792>WoW>fun
>>737237672Blizzard knows their audience, they wish the west was more like the bugmen.
>>737237645>wow isnt an rpgyeah not anymore
>>737236928>>737237672thinking about it I bet blizzard tells them to make those articles so they can guage the western audience's reaction to it
>>737237780never wasbeing slow and boring doesnt make something an rpg btw
>>737237795Nah WoWhead is just extremely desperate for clicks as always
>>737237649>That's why we pick the good features that offer the most amount of pros and the least amount of cons, like no faction-locked classes and dual-spec instead of dungeon finder and flying mounts.There are no good features, all they offer is cons. Every choice made for Classic+ needs to be the opposite of what they did in TBC. Otherwise you will just end up with retail-, like SoD.
>>737237780it never was you dumbfuck
>>737237837SoD was objectively better than vanilla in every wayIn fact every single version of the game is objectively better than vanilla, theres not a single thing it does well. Theres a reason the only people who defend vanilla are just too shit at the game to handle later versions
>>737237649>no faction-locked classesaccelerates faction imbalance if paladins or shamans are significantly more useful than the other>dual-specmakes tanks/healers feel more egotistical than they already are while providing zero value to pure DPSerstry again retailfetus
>>737237809>>737237859>wow was never an rpgCalcutta not really sending their best
>>737237887C'mon now, you can post better bait than that
>>737235370>fel-fucked murderous pieces of shit with no morals whatsoever>being able to channel the light as paladinsnow that's fucking hilarious.
>>737237837If there are no good features then you can't add anything to the game, all you're left with is vanilla. Being a complete purist doesn't lead anywhere so nobody should listen to you.
Why do you want to play the same game for 20 years?
>>737237887>SoD was objectively better than vanilla in every wayThat's why it has a total of 30 people playing it now...>In fact every single version of the game is objectively better than vanilla, theres not a single thing it does well. Theres a reason the only people who defend vanilla are just too shit at the game to handle later versionsThat's why theres 20 different official and private versions of vanilla and 2 non-vanilla servers (dead) that exist...
>>737237939its objectively truefind a single good player that prefers vanilla wow
>>737237928you're a retard and you have zero fucking standards on what makes an rpgyou make no significant choices during questsyour only build customisation is talent points, you don't even get to allocate stat pointsthe entire thing is an on-rails experience
>>737238013>That's why it has a total of 30 people playing it now...Theres no reason to play SoD when superior versions like retail exist, if retail wasnt around SoD would be the best version and more populated>That's why theres 20 different official and private versions of vanilla and 2 non-vanilla servers (dead) that exist...reverse engineering real bosses is too hard, pserfs can only copy tank n spank slop
>>737238019Me
>>737237912>accelerates faction imbalanceWoW had horde palas and ally shamans for decades without issue, it's a solved problem.>makes tanks/healers feel more egotistical than they already are while providing zero value to pure DPSersThis doesn't make any sense, everyone knows healers and tanks are valued more than dps.
>>737237970>If there are no good features then you can't add anything to the game, all you're left with is vanilla.Why do you think you have to choose features from other versions of WoW to make Classic+? Are you retarded? Like why is that dichotomy in your brain? Is this what 25 years of being a Blizzard paypig does to a person?
>>737238006i don't know how to play anything else
>>737238068post logs + IO
>>737238064lol
>>737238079>WoW had horde palas and ally shamans for decades without issue, it's a solved problem.>without issueYeah except the issue is that every single version of wow post vanilla is dogshit, that's why you're even in this thread
imagine the seething retail alliancecels if a blizz classic+ had high elves
>>737238109Post yours first
>>737238081I don't see you posting any new features. I actually have plenty of ideas like multi-group pvp dungeons, but right now we were talking about faction-locked classes which I think should be changed for the betterment of the realm.
>>737238163Have you heard of the high elves?
>>737238079>WoW had horde palas and ally shamans for decades without issue, it's a solved problem.what the fuck are you talking about? vanilla didn't last decades and shamans were way more useful than paladins thanks to their tremor and poison cleansing totems. you think horde dominated every content just because the faction attracted better players? get your head checked>This doesn't make any sense, everyone knows healers and tanks are valued more than dps.dps have a hard time finding dungeons without a tank or a healer buddy.tanks or healers should have a hard time grinding in the overworld without a dps buddy.if you give tanks/healers dual spec they can grind in the overworld as efficiently as dps players. they are completely self-sufficient.not having dual spec promotes player interaction and cooperation. it's as shrimple as that
>>737238163but retail has high elves on both factions.
MOM ELTRNT
>>737238214>I don't see you posting any new features.Why would I? I'm just telling you that your idea is wrong.
>>737238154Retail being dogshit has little to do with which classes you can pick on the character creation screen. It's not like everything in retail is bad, that's a really limiting mindset to have.
>>737234792worlocucks deserve every ounce of trannyslop blizzard does to them. no other fandom is as buckbroken and still asking for more as them.
>>737234952it will be more tranny infested than turtle wow ever was
>>737238154retail mogs your shit (and now dead) slavnigger server
>>737238154correlation is not causation
>>737238219Since when does WoW give a singular shit about promoting player interaction and cooperation? You log in for your daily skinnerbox and you silently grind out dungeons with your matchmade group. Even raids are asocial shit other than the one tard wrangler on mic making all the callouts.
blizzard sucks
>>737238359can you fuck off to your /wowg/ retoilet containment general? the adults are trying to have a conversation here
>>737238274>Retail being dogshit has little to do with which classes you can pick on the character creation screenThat's where you're wrong retard-kun, it has a lot to do with it. Once the Horde got blood elves and paladins and alliance got draenei shamans, it sucked basically any feeling of the game being related to the Warcraft universe away. And it opened the door to other really retarded shit, like Night Elf mages and Tauren paladins and now you have Vulpera and diaper gnomes and gay pride month. All because they decided to sacrifice sense for "gameplay"
>>737238351merely a coincidence....
>>737234792OP here, forgot to mention I'm trans, so I'm looking for something where trans women feel at home, like TWoW.
>>737238219There will obviously be less faction imbalance when both factions have the same classes, you're devoid of logic.>not having dual spec promotes player interaction and cooperationOnly in theory, in reality all the tanks and healers respecs to a DPS spec after raid. It's just tedium that doesn't add much to the game.
>>737238439lucky for you It's gay pride month in retail right now
>>737238384Concession accepted.If you wanted actual player interaction you'd play a real social MMO like Monsters & Memories.
>>737238432yeah i'm sure arenas sucking the fun out of pve in the name of balance and flying mounts didn't do any damage whatsoever to the game. it's all those nasty blood elf paladins' fault
>>737238439Don't miss the literal in game fag parade in retail you clown
>>737238485buy an ad
>>737238491vanilla wow pve is rancid dogshit, retail wow pve is peakarenas didnt do anything lmao
>>737238539All I'm saying is don't whine about lack of social interaction while playing WoW of all things. You may as well play runescape and complain about most of it being singleplayer content.
>>737238391You're conflating completely different additions to the game like they're the same thing to make your point seem bad, in reality you have no point, just a "feeling". I don't give a shit about your feeling.
>>737238550good morning saar have you answered all your support tickets today with "check wowhead" so you have to do some obligatory 4chan PRing?get a real job ranjeet!
I go to bronzebeardblizzard has no authority there
>>737238631>blizzardIt's Microsoft now.
>>737234952>BUH-BUT I WANT HIGH ELVES IN ALLIANCE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>737238631Bronzebeard is the biggest steaming piece of shit ever.Not even leveling is fun due to item level scaling.
>>737238491did you forget that all of those things happened in the one expansion?Listen to me fuckface. The only reason you now believe arenas and flying mounts are bad is because people like me argued and changed the zeitgeist a decade ago. Before that the common understand (yours) was that they were amazing. The only reason you don't see the problem with blood elf paladins on horde is because you just haven't caught up with the thinking yet. So here is something that you will believe in the future: TBC was the worst thing that happened to WoW.
>>737235048>he doesn’t have literal billions of gold to spend on tokens
>>737238592sorry your shit game gets mogged but you shouldnt be projecting shitskin
Uhoh...
>>737238631Microsoft is taking them down, not Blizzard.Microsoft has legal power in 90% of countries.
>>737238583>You're conflating completely different additions to the game like they're the same thingThey are the same thing. Classic+ is about going in a completely different direction from all the expansions. It's literally the point. You just want Horde paladins because it makes you feel like you're playing retail. You cannot fathom a version of wow that isn't like something that already exists.
>>737238849I wonder how many retards were using their normal email and password.
>>737234792>ACHUALLY MICROSOFT CANT DO SHIT TO THESE RANDOM RUSSIAN LOSERSLMAO
>>737235052Nigger, gdkp is banned and boosting outside of the 63-70 bracket is impossible because of boosting nerf patches on the TBC classic servers right now. >allowing bots and cheaters to run rampantThey prolly still exist but it is nowhere near as bad as it was in 2019 classic where there were layers full of these fuckers
>>737238903TurtleWoW was hosted in the UK and most of the devs were from the US that's why it is gone.Warmane has been a thing since Molten back in 2012, and it is still up and running, but guess what, it's hosted by Balkan people and proxied through France.
>>737238970>They prolly still exist but it is nowhere near as bad as it was in 2019 classic where there were layers full of these fuckersI don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, the botting issue was 10x as bad as 2019 just last year in anni
>>737238849
>>737236138>at least not if you want to reach 60 in a reasonable amount of time.NTA but reading isn't your strong suit
>>737239084If you can't predict what I would say to that there's something wrong with you
>>737238902>>737239069Here's the README apparently, pretty interesting.https://files.catbox.moe/551s00.txt
>>737238889You're saying horde paladins and ally shaman opens the door to elf mages and diaper gnomes, I say there is no door. Only features they keep and features they don't keep. It's entirely possible to mix features new features with retail features as long as they're well liked by the playerbase and cause minimal issues with game balance, faction classes and dual spec are such features. There is no reason to throw them away just because they have been present in a later version of WoW.It's also possible to have something like arenas but make them different in a way that better fits the experience, like instead of arenas being instanced, they're a persistent part of the world and teams need to wait in line to enter while other players can watch and take bets. It's technically arena, but it's gonna have a widely different effect on the game.
>>737238849>>737239140Oh so this is just from the hack not something that has just leaked?gay
No reason UD couldn't be paladins. Classic+ should fix the blunder and not have tauren paladins.
>>737234952Just trust the team that ruined retail wow beyond repair bro, they got the Blizzard logo.
>>737239252>You're saying horde paladins and ally shaman opens the door to elf mages and diaper gnomes, I say there is no door.Not a door, but a slippery slope. You don't seem to understand, if the playerbase generally agreed to allow diapergnomes you'd be here making concessions to diapergnomes being better for gameplay or some such nonsense. You're not the target audience for classic+. You don't understand the thought or reasoning behind the desire for it, you're just a secondary lost between classic and retail and not knowing which way the wind is blowing, for that is your nature. The changes that you wished for are already in retail, so just go play that.
>>737239327Betraying their past kin and allies to side with the demon worshippers who caused the mess in the first place probably cut them off from the light quite mightily perhaps possibly maybe.
>>737235249>tryhard parsingThis gay shit also infects the smallest private servers now. Muh speedrun, muh parse.Bunch of faggots.
>>737239327>No reason UD couldn't be paladins.Yeah except that UD paladins are called death knights. I don't hear you faggots asking for forsaken DKs instead though. Likely because you seem to think that Classic+ by design is a concession between vanilla and TBC (coincidentally you had this opinion right when TBC classic was re-released)
>>737239253Yeah seems to be the old leak, but at least it's hanging around out there.
>>737239327No reason Worgen shouldn't be an all-races thing either. Where are my worgen undead death knights?
>>737239525So why aren't UD priests called death priests? Priest is just a caster version of paladin.
>>737239583>Priest is just a caster version of paladin.no lol, by lore all UD priests are shadow.
>>737235260So even subtracting 2000 from the official population numbers, that's still like 8000 players online on just the Icecrown server. I checked earlier and it said 10,000 online. Warmane is fucking massive. Yes it gets boring but then again most games get boring.
>>737239023It absolutely wasn't worse than anni if you were playing a PvP server by a fucking mile. >but PvE!you reap what you sow when you let every single faggot on the server capable of tagging your mobs with no repercussion
There's no reason dwarves or humans shouldn't be able to be shamans. Horde should have some variant of deathknight instead of paladin though
>>737239519gray parsing hands typed this post
>>737239462I'm not a retail player, I like vanilla more than later versions of the game but I'm not deluded enough to think it's perfect. I bet if I ask for your ideal version of classic it's gonna be some pretty insane shit.
>>737239692I don't know what you're talking about but here's a video from last year. This is obviously worse than what it was in 2019.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWfS0Ye9bAo
>>737239617They're functionally identical to every other priest aside from their racial spell, just do the same to paladin, shadow paladin, problem solved.
>>737239525Classic+ is going to be pulling ideas from every expansion and horde paladins are coming. Blizzard is never going to do faction locked classes ever again because the majority of people actually hate it
Any blizzard realms will be trash due to gold selling betting boosting and gdkpThe crackdown on that shit was what made turtle unique, and it's sad it's gone. It was one of the last unspoiled mmo experiences out there for those of us who hate that shit.
>>737239789I don't think it's perfect either>I bet if I ask for your ideal version of classic it's gonna be some pretty insane shit.I would save the insane shit for WoW 2. For classic+ my ideal would be:>add more quests and quest hubs and NPCs and other stuff to the world, especially the 30+ zones that are mostly bare.>maybe some new dungeons/raids if they could keep the vanilla feel>new fun items>maybe add some new (non-retail) abilities to the shittier classesThat's about it.
>>737239617Blizzard has never given a fuck about their own lore since even vanilla. All UD priests being shadow doesn't mean anything when you can literally be whatever spec you want in game. >>737239853Yeah just give them a racial seal and boom UD paladin done.
>>737239874>Blizzard is never going to do faction locked classes ever again because the majority of people actually hate itWrong. The majority of retail players hate it.
>>737240061retail is 50x larger than classic, their opinion is the only thing that mattersfavelamonkeys dont get to speak
>>737240019>Blizzard has never given a fuck about their own lore since even vanilla. All UD priests being shadow doesn't mean anything when you can literally be whatever spec you want in game.Which is a mistake that needs to be corrected. lmao what thread do you think you're in? Turtle WoW is the direction Classic+ should go. Whether or not Blizzard are competent to deliver is not the point.
>>737240009>retail already fixed classes 10 years ago>but you cant use those spells because it reminds me that Im playing the baby retard versionuh huh
>>737240061Classic players were whining about pally seals being imba for TBC and it got changed in TBC re-release. If they will cry about a tiny thing like that they will 100% endlessly bitch if blizzard releases new content with faction locked classes.
>>737240087>retail is 50x larger than classiclol>their opinion is the only thing that mattersIf their opinon mattered classic wouldn't exist, they cried tears of blood trying to stop it from happening lmfao
>>737235945aaaaaa i'm going insane
>>737239810I'm talking about currently on tbc classic, not a year ago because blizzard didnt start doing shit until recently
>>737240110They aren't going to delete priest off horde lol, even though they probably should. Trolls and UD were always weird as priests.
>>737240152classic existed because they had one chance to cash grab nostalgic millennials hitting a midlife crisis, but that only lasted for about a month before classic died
>no changes mongoloids vs retail subhumanswhat a thread
>>737240117>>retail already fixed classes 10 years agolollmao
>>737240192They should just delete forsaken off horde, it would be sweet if the entire faction was undead and you healed with necromancers
>>737240210objectively true, thats why retail class balance is 1000x better than shitnilla's
>>737240128Something like paladin seals needed to get changed. Before TBC Classic even existed very single TBC private server had massive faction balance issues. It got to the point where psevers where offering freebies like extra xp gain and free epic mount just for picking Alliance and it still didn't work.
DK for horde and Pala for allied ants is what it should have been.
>>737240194>but that only lasted for about a month before classic diedthat's funny because classic exists solely as a refuge chamber from the dogshit that is retail now, midnight is dead, even streamers don't play it
>>737240258Right now is probably not the best time to be calling retail classes balanced....
>>737240009We seem to be quite attuned in what we want, except I don't mind if they remove the faction lock on classes or have minor QoL things like dual-spec. There is also a part of me that wants them to go nuts and turn it into something completely different, I always liked fun-servers.
>>737240258why arent you playing it then
Is there anything new on Epoch outside of two fucking """""""""""remastered""""""""""" dungeons and tbc talents?
>>737240358>except I don't mind if they remove the faction lock on classesI would prefer actually if they just allowed cross-faction groups
>>737234952>Just wait for something that is years away and that blizzard will inevitably fuck up because they don't have a portion of the old team's vision and creativity
>>737240324nobody is playing classic unc, its beyond dead right now
>>737240284Well giving access to seals is an incredibly easy fix since you can just add a spell to both sides.Now imagine an entire class that might be more OP than the other sides faction class. Then it becomes a balancing nightmare. With endless crying from both sides when their faction class gets workshopped to death
>>737240397Turtlefag detected, now that would be truly horrible.
>>737234952>trusting them to not fuck it upWhen the original classic launched, people were yelling at them constantly to not change anything because everyone knew they'd fuck things up if they did.
>>737240448No, and it makes perfect sense.
>>737240336retail classes are all relatively close overall and even the worst classes have fights theyre top 5 for, the balance is fine
My change, make potions and shit have higher stacking counts because only stacking to 5 is some bull shit.
>>737240441>Now imagine an entire class that might be more OP than the other sides faction class. Then it becomes a balancing nightmare. With endless crying from both sides when their faction class gets workshopped to deathIt's fine in vanilla and it's fine in classic, nobody actually cares and arguments about who is more OP is kinda part of the fun of having distinct factions.
>>737240515Yea of course the warring factions should be able to group up, hold hands and have gay sex, heck yea sister.
>>737235370>get rid of a core part of faction identityAn unacceptable compromise on integrity.
>>737240518easy to balance when everything is homogenized.
Microsoft fucking killed my favourite game what the fuck. For 0 fucking gain too, there is 0 overlap between people who play private servers and people willing to give blizzard money
>>737238064>Theres no reason to play SoD when superior versions like retail exist, if retail wasnt around SoD would be the best version and more populatedAnyone who compares SoD to retail has not played retail in over a decade.
>>737237338>paladin doesn't have conviction in his causeDude is absolutely fucked.
>>737240571The player character in vanilla is a nameless adventurer, it makes perfect sense that they wouldn't follow faction lines and would group up out of convenience.
>>737240645They don't want people who post anime girls on message boards
>>737237419also, funnily enough, the entirety of reddit and the wow forums went into full fucking nonstop meltdown because warriors weren't literal bottom tier in SoDthe cherry on top? Warrior was the top DPS in the final raid tier whilst using the Ashbringer. The human male ret paladin community (the biggest community on SoD) was seething uncontrollably
>>737240645pay up or get bent anime tranny
I didn't buy midnight or war within, DFLIGHT was kinda too gay and ruined retail completely for me. I think I am mostly free.
>>737240671The player character is at war with the opposite faction, that is the whole premise of vanilla. The game is called Warcraft, deal with it.
>>737240671Why does the enemy faction NPCS try to rip your cock off the moment you approach them? check mate.
>play tbc classic>hit level 70>get stunned for ten seconds by a warrior with a mace>alt+f4 uninstallIt was my own fault, but whatever.
>>737240730>The player character is at war with the opposite faction, that is the whole premise of vanilla.No, the FACTIONS are at war, the player should be able to choose to be or not to be when convenient.
>>737240591except classes arent homogenizedthey all have different playstyles, utility and damage profilesall of which actually matter because the game is tuned properly
>>737235013>play a real game and move on with your life. it's 2026. you are in your 40s. move the fuck onunironic answer to this: uncs dont like to learn new games (maybe a few, but not too many), and they have so much innate muscle memory with WoW that they can play that shit easy while watching media on another monitor/TV on the sidethis is why the unc keeps playing WoW
>>737240803Good news anon, they made retail just for you, you can suck as many orc dicks as you want over there.
>>737234952>all of the samefagging on this postJesus this site has gone to hell
>>737240867>except classes arent homogenizedlol go away
>>737234792Why don’t we just vibe code our own mmo with Claude, should be easy. Brb
>>737239140>Don't forget that their entire product is developed off the back of an open-source product, none of whose code has been put back as open-source (until now).This has always been the greatest failure in the private server space.A new server picks up the latest version of MaNGOS, builds on it, makes a decent core, then refuses to publish their changes and plays the "MUH SECRET SAUCE" card any time anyone asks about it.They wouldn't have shit to build off of if it wasn't for the autists that spent years reverse engineering the client and building a server around it, then adding in all the data for things that couldn't be found on the client.
>>737235013>>737240882>play a real game also past a certain age the unc stops caring about "real games". all of gaming media is a simple method to pass the time, that's all. purity spirals about "real games" mean less than nothing to the old man
>>737240882you said dont like to learn but they cant, they literally cant learn new games. Classic wow players are actually fucking terrible at video games>and they have so much innate muscle memory with WoW that they can play that shit easyexcept not any version of WoW with a hint of diffuclty, only vanilla where you just whiteswing things to death
>>737240957It's not, you blizzdrones are just disconnected from reality.
>>737239707>Horde should have some variant of deathknight instead of paladin thoughHonestly this would be a perfectly fine compromise.The only race that would make sense to be a paladin is undead, and it'd make MORE sense for them to be raised as deathknights.
>>737240973go on and tell me how frost mage and aff lock are alikemeanwhile in shitnilla one mashes frost bolt and the other mashes shadow bolt
>>737240995Yeah, in the end when these servers fall they should just release the shit open source if they already didn't.
>>737241120if they wanted to get raped to death by lawyers
>>737240803When you pick a faction at character creation, you are picking a side in the conflict that is part of the setting.
>>737241045>cant learn new gamesWhat mysterious 'new games' might you be talking about? Because I would really love to see something actually original for the first time in decades
>>737240913But cross faction grouping doesn't exist in retail, dumdum
>>737241080the only precedent for an undead paladin is that one paladin in naxx and even he is an incredibly rare case since generally an undead paladin would just explode on the spot (paladins are *infused* with light, whereas priests channel it hence why it doesn't just outright kill them but causes immense pain)even then, 1 character able to be a paladin doesn't mean some random level 1 zombie fuckhead should also be a paladin
>>737241091>affl lock mashes shadowboltepic fail
Hunters should be able to tame almost anything, even bosses if you are higher level than them and want to get a unique little wolf or some shit from a dungeon
>>737241091>builder >spender>builder>spender>builder>spenderARR ROOK SAME
>>737241230How should I know that? I don't play retail
>>737241237>dots in vanillalol
>>737241192No I'm not, I don't pick a faction, I pick a race.
>>737240882>and they have so much innate muscle memory with WoW that they can play that shit easy while watching media on another monitor/TV on the sideI haven't played WoW in around 8 years and you could put me on my character and I would instantly be able to pick up and play the game while remembering 30~ keybinds that are ingrained into my muscle memory. My only issue would be hitting abilities that were pruned. Even 10 years from now, I'd still probably be able to get on my WoW character and remember every keybind.
>>737241279touche
>>737241091They're really different in pvp which is the part of the game that actually matters.
>>737241275>spells interact, this means theyre the sameshitskins really showing off their sub 60 IQs here
>>737241045>you said dont like to learn but they cant, they literally cant learn new games. Classic wow players are actually fucking terrible at video gamesyou're conflating different things here. they can "learn new games", but they go off to learn games irl that will net them actual results in life. most oldfags see diminished reaction times in video games, that's true, but why the fuck would any oldcunt waste time trying to reclaim performance ground in a digital sandbox when he can just go off and start a business or get into studying the financial markets etc? the latter is what i did. only a retard would fight to stay passable with The Youths at something so inconsequential.being shit at video games when you're in you're late 30s+ isn't a problem for the unc - still being broke at that age is the problem.
>>737241151That's why you release the Open Source code during development when things get risky. If TWoW was smart they'd had compiled the stuff necessary to run a TWoW clone without any important data the moment the lawsuit landed in their mailbox, then fans would just back it and the client up and continue with it later.
>>737241438What do the spells do again?>builder>spender>builder>spender>builder>spenderLet me guess, you think because the spells have a different name that means they're actually different? My retard nigga, the only difference in retail dps specs is the order they press 1-2-3-4
>>737241439>but they go off to learn games irl that will net them actual results in life.yeah bro Im sure the neets who spend 15 hours a day in AV are doing a lot in their real life lmao
>>737236646>Logs in>Immediately uohhhhhhhs
>>737241343Don't want to be a part of the war? Pick the uninstall mage
Say what you will about TurtleWoW but man if some of the official artwork wasn't kino.
>>737241659you'll say that but cry that you can't be a horde paladin lmao traitor
>>737241779https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqMVSvdZ1TU
>every wow thread ever on /v/
>>737241779Turtle was kino and anyone saying otherwise just didn't even play it and are parroting autism they read on here.
>>737241151>if they wanted to get raped to death by lawyersBlizzard cannot legally do anything about the public distribution of private server source code.None of the original official server's code is present in private servers, none of the game's assets are present, nor any of Blizzard's registered trademarks.That's why things like MaNGOS can exist on github for over a decade and not be C&D'd despite being the latest repo for server source code.All they can actually do is wait for a server to pop up, see if they use any of their copyright content, and C&D them if they do.Hypothetically, if a server were to use none of WoW's art/content/likeness outside of the server itself (which doesn't actual distribute that content but instead provides a layer for data to flow between clients and for in game data to be tracked/computed), and did not provide arrangements for players to pay for in game content such as mounts/boosts/etc, while also not distributing the game client itself, Blizzard wouldn't be able to do anything legally speaking.
>>737241791I actually hate paladins and want the alliance to feel the same pain of fighting them in pvp.
>>737237267Yes we also play Ultima Online shards, Final Fantasy 11, and EverQuest. Or did, before my computer got fucking stolen, haha. No more gaming for me
>>737241879my previously WoW addicted friend (like almost 20 solid years of playing) refuses to talk about it at all
>>737242035You can break him. It's like meth. Do it anon, it will be funny.
>>737234792Play something else. Probably not an MMO, those are mostly bad.
>>737237347Dungeon Finder is good. No one wants to fly to the dungeon each fucking time. That's why I quit TWoW even tho they had a group finder addon. It just became too much having to physically go to the dungeon each time. I remember ranting in global chat and saying a bunch of racist stuff yet I never got banned
>>737241893>t. Crogge
>>737241779Insert instant loss followup panel
all custom turtle content sucked anyways
>>73724203520 years straight means he quit only recently. It's the fags who have legit not played in 10+ years who infest WoW threads with their outdated opinions.
>>737241879Based ex wow players on their way to warn potential new players about how terrible wow has become.
>>737237572I agree with this. Retail is the best. Nothing beats Raid Finder and being able to raid instead of waiting an hour for a raid party to form.
Reminder that Microsoft and Blizzard sends employees to message boards to try and influence your opinion.
>>737242072>Dungeon Finder is good. No one wants to fly to the dungeon each fucking time.If you're retarded maybe, going to the dungeon is an experience, not a chore. If you wanna queue up for your dose of slop instead of organizing with players then you aren't playing WoW.
>>737241540>the only difference in retail dps specs is the order they press 1-2-3-4just say you parse gray brodps have dramatically different damage profilesa dot you can put up on multiple targets to generate resources is dramatically different than a single target spell generating resources.
naw no auto tele to dungeon, if you want sums get a warlock.
>>737237887Well for me, it'd about Raid Finder and Dungeon Finder. If classic or whatever had those, I'd play them. Guess I should stick to retail
>>737236087Everything about WoW was leeched off of other properties though? Warhammer and LOTR specifically.
>>737242141Experience of what? Waiting 20 minutes for that one nigger queueing from the other side of the world? Without unlocked fly paths on top of that?
>>737242197Well that's why I quit TWoW. Auto summons to dungeons or raids is what makes the game for me. Raids and dungeons is what WoW does best. No one wants to fucking spend an hour walking or waiting for a group
>>737242141an experience so good there are dozens of warlock bots being paid to port people around
>>737242098Vanilla iteself haven't changed a lot in 20+, you don't need to play retail for 40 years to know what's best for vanilla.
>>737242162>N-NOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I HAVE A SKILL I'M GOOD AT SOMETHING IN LIFE HOW DARE YOU SAY THIS GAME IS SIMPLElol
>>737242275Well, everything ultimately is a copy of EverQuest.
>>737242292>>737242314hurting class identity with that change, the best I will give you is summon stones.
>>737242314>WTF THE GAME DESIGN WORKING AS INTENDED??? THIS HAS TO STOP THERE NEEDS TO BE LESS GAMEPLAY AND MORE MENUS
Retail should just copy Fellowship and remove all the useless MMO baggage. Wow retail should be mythic+, raids, and delves, that's it.
>>737242286That's the point. No one wants to waste 30 minutes waiting for someone. Just add the fucking Dungeon Finder. If people don't wanna use it then don't but don't ruin it for the majority who do want it.
>>737242374warlock bots glitched into walls is how the game was intended to be?what a shit game lmao
>>737242386Agreed. The questing is boring as shit. Just dungeons and raids since that's what WoW does best. Retail is actually good. Yes even the War Within and Midnight
>>737242393>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEE SHIT UP THE GAME FOR MEJust fucking play 3.3.5 you retarded wrathbaby.
>>737242386>Retail should just copy FellowshipNo. They really shouldn't.
>>737237467She... she looks like me, I... thank you...
>>737242403That's infinitely better than a menu that teleports you to the dungeon faggot. Go play on your phone, baby.
>>737242314Maybe there wouldn't be warlock bots if Blizzard actually cared about moderating their game lol
>>737242456Subhuman neet.
>>737241603why the passive aggressive seethe? it makes your post sound like you haven't worked out a game plan either.
My warlocks weren't bots I just boxed three locks named zip, zap, and zock. Please don't take my goldmaking method from me it would bust my balls and my cock. I'd make such nice gold sitting in blackrock hiding zip, zap, and zock hiding behind a door that had no locks.
>>737242386>>737242454Sure, as long as they remove all that shit from classic and makes it all about the MMO part. Then you faggots could stay in your containment lobby while the rest of us enjoy the world of Warcraft.
>>737237946They gained holy powers by keeping a na'aru in their basement and draining its energy.
>>737239570
>MUH HORDE PALADINS>MUH ALLIANCE SHAMANSPeople really just want them on both factions so there isn't a bunch of useless mail and plate gear
>>737242162that's just tabbing to spam sunders with a different flavor lol
>>737242456Even Warmane pisses me off because there is no Raid Finder. As a result, you have idiots demanding 6000GS just for basic raids. Automating group finding is the best thing WoW ever did. That's why I say retail is still the best
>>737242735Raid Finder is so terrible bro what do you mean, bosses need to be made AFKable it was so bad.
>>737242735Ultimately, WoW gets boring. Just play EverQuest or Ultima Online or Final Fantasy 11
>>737242735It's impossible to pug on Warmane anyway since every group will be filled with brownoids
Hey.. what if they did the entire classic run again... but this time they just remove Cataclysm entirely? Like the game skips from wotlk to mop? Seriously. Nobody likes Cataclysm, all it did was ruin the game world and add some shitty raids that everyone hates. Could MoP exist in the original game world of wotlk? Pandaria is entirely instanced right? Think about it.
>>737242713>>737242320>DURRRRR HITTING MOBS WITH BUTTONS = HOMOGENIZEDJust say you play autoattack classes you faggots
>>737242775That's fine. And if you wanna play the harder version, then you can form your own raid group. It's LFR, then Normal then Heroic. Fuck elitists who want to deny casual raiding to others by removing Raid Finder
>>737242735Then go play some Cataslop and enjoy running your 1000th run of Dragon Soul.
>>737242735Just play retail faggot it's right there for you pride month and everything
>>737242820I'm amazed anyone kept playing after Cata, literally everyone was doomposting and no one liked anything it did. Retail died after WoTLK (and honestly during it due to dungeon finder shit taking over)
>>737242820Cataclysm added Raid Finder. It was also my first wow expansion. >>737242842Well you crybabies demanding blizzard not to include Raid Finder in classic. Thus the only option for me is retail.
>>737242830you are describing the most basic bitch shit, anon. multi dotting has been a thing since vanilla. better put corruption on everything for nightfall procs!
>>737242902Yes I think I WILL!!!! Gay pride FOREVER!!! >>737242907Wotlk saved WoW by including Dungeon Finder
>>737242909>Well you crybabies demanding blizzard not to include Raid Finder in classic. Maybe because it's supposed to be Classic and not Cataclysm?
>>737242820nobody except for slavs wants wrath classic againmy entire guild and friends got "you think you do" 'd with the 2022 wrath classiculduar is too long and algalon and icc heroic is too hard for casuals
>>737242907>I'm amazed anyone kept playing after Cataa lot didn't. It wasn't until Classic came out midway through BFA did WoW finally get it's playerbase restored.
>>737242993Cataclysm Classic didn't have Raid Finder is what I meant.
>>737238816>instead of giving blizzard $10-15/mo he gives them $20
>>737234792Play something else than WoW.
>>737243035>that hype from WoD only for players to realize they turned it into a literal mobile gameMakes me sad every time
>>737243035Mists of Pandaria was my favorite as well. Damn, the dungeons in that one was so well done.
I like how vanilla has simple rotations for PvE and tons of complexity for PvP. Acquiring gear should be a brainless chill activity, PvP is the real game.PvP is the War in Warcraft.
>>737243084Well it wasn't just that, they also basically gave up on the game halfway through to make Legion.
>>737242932and it makes classes significantly different, debunking the retail is homogenized myth
>>737243170The playerbase was already shot by the time they gave up. Having 1 more raid tier would not have saved WoD.
>>737243103????MoP was easily the worst dungeons ever got, what the FUCK are you talking about
>>737243195>and it makes classes significantly different,except when a lot of classes are now having to multidot for resources, have to keep up maintenance debuffs, etc. classes were more unique in the past, gives mages lust was when class identity truly started to die then mop happened and everyone got a self heal and a defensive.
>>737236850a dev literally said that high elves have blond hair and blue eyes and thats racist so they wont be playable
>>737235549Does this even have any new content aside from 2 reworked dungeons and a world boss?
>>737234952fuck your israeli corporation and fuck your trannsexual mentally sick shelter of a game and playerbase
>>737240730>hes never played a warcraft game the whole premise of warcraft 3, vanilla wow, and literally every warcraft anything is "horde and alliance team up to kill big monster"
>>737234792it's unironically over for you if you still have fun playing wow.I hope that you've already transitioned.
>>737234792why would you want to sink thousands of hours into something that could go down at any moment at some tranny admin? just put up your own azerothcore server for yourself and frens, they run on a toaster and have almost zero bugs at this point
>>737243446fuck the developers. Aryan superiority elves are based. Fuck Jewish haters.
>>737243723lol yeah most private servers end up going down because the lead troon dev has a random melty.
>>737243385>except when a lot of classes are now having to multidot for resourcesstill the same ones as always>have to keep up maintenance debuffsthe only maintenance debuffs in the game are passively applied by DH and monk>classes were more unique in the pastnope, never even close.
All Blizzard has to do to make Classic+ successful is just make seasonal realms with different content/gimmicks each time. Essentially different flavors of SoD but actually have a proper start and end date on the realms. WoW is NOT the type of game that functions when staying on the same patch forever, they need to not fall for this FOREVER SERVER INFINITE CONTENT meme.
>>737236794this. some of the biggest faggots in gaming are adults who still play "smash."
>classic+You mean TBC? The expansion that made Raid groups and loot distribution objectively better, gave classes more of their identity, and made everything challenging in return?>but muh world pvpGo to farming spots or literally any summoning stone and you can find pvp opportunities
>>737243723>why would you want to sink thousands of hours into something that could go down at any moment at some tranny admin? What the fuck are you talking about? Do you think people sink thousands of hours into a game to reach some kind of end product that lasts forever? Is that what you do? Why would anyone give a shit that their character gets deleted after thousands of hours of game time? Are you retarded?
>>737244167don't like outland simple as
>>737244210shrimple as that, like flying mounts thoughbeit
>>737243520It has new open world sub-zones and quests, way less than Troondle obviously, but it's decent.
Vanilla and TBC blended together with no flying. >but what about that x zone in tbc!add more flightpaths.
>>737244167>You mean TBC? The expansion that made Raid groups and loot distribution objectively better, gave classes more of their identity, and made everything challenging in return?Yeah bro arena and flying mounts and shitty raids and destroying the lore? Love it. Snake trap and ice lance, fixed them classes up lmao
>>737244306Tbc sucks dick though, all expansions were bad, that's the point of classic+
Why is it so difficult for blizzard to make a good Vanilla plus? A bunch of hobbyists manages to do it so why not them? They could do this with every expansion if they wanted to and it would rake in thousands of players who wants to play their favorite ""classic"" version of the game that just keeps getting new stuff every now and then.I genuinely can't wrap my head around how they can sit on such a goldmine and not take any advantage of it
>>737244314>shitty raidswhy do vanillatards think they can talk down about other expansions raids?Vanilla raids are COMPLETE dogshit>Snake trap and ice lance, fixed them classes up lmaono more 20 warrior raids so yeah, it did.
>>737244368I mean they are currently working on one. We can't really say they are bad at making a classic+ when they only thing they've done so far was a test run with SoD.
>>737244209i'm talking about having fun as long as you wanna have fun and not being hooked up to some random tranny admin menstrual cycle that has a late night epiphany one day and decides to nuke the whole server
>>737244368Because that would mean admitting everything that Blizzard has done since 2005 has been wrong. They won't admit that.
>>737244368good vanilla is an oxymoron, vanilla is a shit game with shit game design>A bunch of hobbyists manages to do it nope turtle was shit>They could do this with every expansion if they wanted to and it would rake in thousands of playerswhy would they care about thousands of mostly 3rd world non-paying players when they could focus on millions in retail?They arent sitting on a goldmine, theyre developing the actually successful branch of the game
>>737244415Nobody gives a fuck if their character gets deleted, it's not real you faggot, the point is you had fun while it lasted. So you expect official servers to last forever or something? Turtle literally lasted longer than vanilla did
>>737244368Pride. They won't accept random people can do better than them.
>>737244361classic+ is going to take ideas from all expansions whether you like it or not :0
>>737244528what content in turtle holds a candle to the current raid tier?Please tell me
>>737244529Then I won't play it lol
>>737244559One look at the intro cinematic to midnight tells me it's worse
>>737244575>classic+ flops because only giga spergs like classic to begin with>blizzard puts it down for good lol
>>737244615Anon, there is literally no person on this planet who is as subhuman as a retail wow player. You can only end up there via mental illness. Gacha players are less detestable.
>>737244615>Puts classic down>Retail players have nowhere left to go and quit en massekek
>>737244526ok? idk what the fuck are you even melting about
>>737234792With the world taking away everything you love, have you considered killing yourself?
>>737244672>transexuals recomending others to kysok wow
I watched some cutscenes for the last 3 retail expansions and holy fuck, who even writes this garbage, why is every single fucking character talks about feelings and endings are resolved like it's a fucking disney cartoon or a marvel movie. If you think that Classic+ won't be tainted by this garbage, you are absolutely retarded.
>>737244613>b-but my goyslop cinematicGAMEPLAY NIGGERGAMEPLAY
>>737244906At least 50% of the retail wow player base are trannies, the Devs are trannies and they fill the story with trannies and make tranny cinematics. Now go celebrate pride week with your tranny guild.
>>737238631just hopped on here. it uses the hideous updated disney models and animations...
>>737244968I already know the gameplay will be bad when they can't even bother to make a good cinematic
>>737244968Gameplay in retail has been the same since Legion
Kronos 5 sooncome home white man
>>737245274I don't have free 3-4 hours anymore to myself without being interrupted
Why only Turtle btfo'd? Lowest/juiciest hanging fruit?
>>737245495tbf Stormforge is also getting the BBC(big blizzard cock)
>>737245495they are not the only one, Stormforge Wotlk/MoP server got zerod too>whybecause they couldn't stop bragging about their server to blizzard
>>737244101Fuck off with your seasonal shit. I want my progression to last and be meaningful.
can i get a % number crunch of the database being transfered to some other server so people dont lose stuff
>>7372457060
>>737235260Ascension WoW keeps winning.
>>737237338This isn't fucking real. I refuse to believe that the writing has become this trite.
>>7372457065%If it happens it'll be a chink with admin access to the Asian server who wasn't strongly tied to the turtle team, but we have no reason to believe any such chink exists
>>737244968>can't wait to do spastic ddr routine with 20 other people where one mistake wipes youIf you can't comfortable text chat in mmo during combat it is a shit mmo. Raidniggers begone.
>>737245624I thought this was obvious, there is no way they're making a classic realm that is meant to last forever. There will be seasonal resets and maybe some eternal era-like server that acts as a retirement home for seasonal characters. It's the Diablo 4 model.
The new content in Classic+ will 100% include LGBT shit. They won't be able to help themselves.Just watch.
>>737246032I didn't play all of SoD. Did they manage to go through that whole thing without inserting fag shit?
>>737244101That's what they did with Season of Mastery, Discovery etc? I'm assuming the Classic+ that's coming after Blizzcon will be another Season of x
>>737234792>another game like WoW from 2004Is that why target of target was not in that game? Was target of target too new?
>>737246032It will be like an easteregg hunt for /v/ to find all the gay shit, they're just providing the content you want.
>>737237338lol
>>737245915They can go fuck themselves with it. SoD was shit because of it, MoP revisit was shit because of it, fucking retail is shit because of it with the seasonal vault.
>>737246032remember when they made half of stormwind black? just raceswapping pre-existing NPCs
>>737245857>if I cant stop playing for 30+ seconds the game is badholy shitter cope
>>737240669wouldn't that turn his light off
>>737246226SoD was bad because it was rushed as fuck and they needed to timegate levels just to buy time to make more content.
>>737245034too bad this has been debunked funny purple chandelier mogs all of vanilla
>>737246226You're crazy, WoW has always had seasons, it's not a game you can stop at the final season and just let it sit there forever. Just look at how shitty and dead Era has become after they did that.
>>737246264Yup, their power is directly connected to their conviction.
>>737246226If seasons are so bad then how come every attempt to keep a wow server running forever on the same patch always ends up dead?WoW needs constant new content to stay relevant. For every 1 autismo who wants to play on a specific patch forever there are a million others who want the next new patch.
Classic+ should just be turtle wow, blizz you have the groundwork already done just STEAL their fucking shit.
>>737246506Much higher chances they copy from Ascension since they've already been stealing their stuff since SoD.
>>737246506Turtle was terrible though
>>737246571Add in fast travel, and Dungeon Finder, and Raid Finder and then Turtle will be the best form of WoW
I have only seen three people NIGGER in a public chat so far. I will make a collage over the next month.
>>737245706It's gone dude.
>>737242907>I'm amazed anyone kept playing after CataNo one normal stayed after Wrath.
>>737246153>they're just providing the content you want.Not really, they just want you gone. But I get that that couching all of this in some kind of sardonic neurosis feels more comfortable for you. A pattern you're used to, no doubt.
>>737242907>seething and quitting when the game gets a little hardshitskins lmao
>>737246924Beats playing the game
>>737246571Elaborate with a real opinion
>>737246761>server shutting down>bust out the big NIGGER because getting banned doesn't matter anymorebased beyond belief.
>>737247182made me lol
>>737247128True, desu.
>>737246372What new content, they just reworked some items and added stupid events that wasted time.
>>737247140Not worth the effort, the server is already dead kek
>>737247182I remember ranting in Global chat and talking about how the holocaust never happened for like 15 minutes straight and I never got banned
>>737247071Well technically, the game got easier with each expansion
>>737247331So you didn't play it gotcha.
>>737247467I played enough to smell the stink and get out of there
>>737247395nopehttps://youtu.be/VwjuR3_V7Z0Find me anything in vanilla that compares
>>737236368idk what's taking them so long i literally have a working running legion server i can host locally, so not having a proper repack isn't an excuse
>>737247954How soon until some Russian hacker uses turtle wow's code and create a new server? I mean there's too much money for it not to happen so it's just a matter of time
>>737248575Nobody would play it. Turtle only took off because they hired so many shills to spam everywhere about the server.
>>737249221Yea. Well anyway seems like turtle wow is dead. Where to next? Ascension? Maybe a new game? Final Fantasy 11?
>>737234952>/spit removed and women replaced with fruit
>>737249565This is your chance to escape the cycle and live your life, don't waste it.
>>737249875I only played turtle wow for like a week. I was ranting in Global chat saying fuck niggers and the holocaust was fake, because I WANTED to be banned but they didn't ban me. I think i uninstalled TWoW and then bought the war within, and enjoyed it a lot actually, other than how unoptimized the retail client is nowadays. Like I said, retail is pretty nice but I lost interest fast. Then went back to final Fantasy 14 and finished Endwalker. Shadowbringers was the peak of modern mmorpgs, the story was so powerful
>>737250535Holy shit I cared so hard when I read that
>>737250634I guess I'm done with gaming since a fucking pajeet stole my damn computer. Games suck, it's a bloody waste of time.
I pay a sub.So should you.
>>737250863you should also pay my sub
>>737250863I'll pass, big dawg.
>>737250846Oh I get it, you're one of those LLM bots
>>737250981Nah I just know how to speak English unlike the zoomer scum
>>737247946Gayest shit I've ever seen in my life, a bunch of queers wearing egaming shirts celebrating clearing a raid? Lmao
i had to attend a irl pride march to get a blizzard code for a recolor transmog cloak and so will you
>>737251762>that piccome off it you wanted to go to that shit kek
Total. Pirate server. Extinction.You WILL pay the sub.
>>737235119as a long time turtle player i am so lost at where the P2W argument comes from, IMHO it's objectively false
>>737251980Nobody asked for your input turdy.Your illegal server is dead and Blizz won, cry about it.
>>737252080>turdy
>>737252080and no asked you to eat blizzards(tm) slop, you just do it for free
>liberal faggot trannies and corporate bootlickers took over 4chan the pinnacle of racism and pedophiliaits over
>>737234792Turtle wow leftist sjw troons lost bigly Get fucked trannies
>>737253027you know Blizzard shills lgbt too right little cuckie?
>>737252178Keep dooming doomer, you're never getting a time machine, either man up or an hero.
>>737235370Not even osrs has got this bad and this game hasn't even launched yet wtf
>>737234952Remember when they said this was impossible and that people wouldn't want it? They proved they aren't responsible enough to handle it.
>>737253114>tranny telling someone to kyslol classic tranny move
>>737253425You're living the hell you created in your own mind
>>737246506I bet some of the team at Blizzard are tempted to steal Timbermaw Hold for Classic+, it's very good. Most likely they will just steal ideas, like the leveling challenges.
>>737253905It would be silly not to have leveling challanges, every classic+ private server client is doing it. And you can't steal what you already own.
>>737254272Blizzard never did Timbermaw Hold. They retconned the Tunnels into the Hold but the Furbolgs had a giant hold under Hyjal that was corrupted. Turtle devs actually gave a fuck about the lore and not pride events.
>>737254474Good, more content for the official cassic+, thanks for betatesting.
