2 Sabbat are chowing down on a malkavian, one turns to the other and says"Does this taste funny to you?"
>>737234894>be outside>sv_friction 0>reach next interior/quest location>sv_friction 4>finish quest, am outside again>rinse and repeatI got places to be and bitches to suck
Sometimes I rewatch the hospital cutscene where you rescue lily, and I self insert as the doctor she pins down, mounts and sucks to deathI get hard
>>737235426this faggot wants to get sucked to death by californian teenagers
>>737234894Why didn't the plus patch let me save her.
>>737234894If im being honest, after the disaster that was VtmB2, i completely lost interest in this series
First playthrough as a Toreador last year what clan should I choose to rediscover the game in a different way?
>>737236369embrace tremere and experience the power of striking a pose as an entire room of chinamen kill themselves around you
>>737236369Ventrueor Gangrel if you're a furryfag
>>737234894>get back to shitty apartment in santa monica>eviction notice from ventrue landlord>try to get some sleep>brujah faggots playing rock music across the street at 9000 decibels>decide to browse imageboards>almost every thread is just 1 malk samefagging>try to shitpost>nosferatu jannies backtrace your ip and smear rat shit on your door>alright ill just order some food and put on a movie>gangrel driver delivers your order>half eaten burger, half empty shake>toreador neighbor still hasn't returned your console you let him borrow 6 nights ago, won't answer the door>decide to kms>nvm its your tremere room mate just pranking you again>fuck it im just gonna go to the club and try to score>walk across the street>raped to death by 4 sabbat cokeheadswhat a life
>>737236745>decide to kms>nvm its your tremere room mate just pranking you again
>>737236139did the average-looking california girl in 2004 really have 22-inch waists and D-cup breasts
>>737236276dont worry the vampire hunter game will save us
>>737237781its a real wonder why they gave heather, some random chick off the street, a better bod than the poster girl of the series Jeanette, or VV the other bimbo, seriously, heather's tits are bigger, perkier and she has a better waist than both of them
>>737236276>seriesIt's literally just one game and an utterly failed attempt at a sequel 2 decades laterAll other vidya based on WoD are either some ancient shovelware or shitty visual novels. Barely anyone cares about either and they're completely unrelated to Bloodlines except for the setting. Honestly it's really fucking baffling that despite being among the biggest /tg/ franchises since the 90s with lots of fans, strong atmosphere, shittonne of cool lore and well liked motifs WOD never really got any popular vidya or movie adaptations aside from Bloodlines.
>>737241683>It's literally just one game and an utterly failed attempt at a sequel 2 decades laterAnd that 1 game kept me somewhat interested. Now that they fucked up even that, i have 0 intrest
>>737237781Yes, California is famous for the beautiful people
why is vandal so fucking based
Is it a good idea to play VTMB without the patch? I'm a bit lazy about reinstalling it, but if it'll end up straight up unplayable then I guess I'll have to.
>>737245075It's worth trying, but if your machine can't run it without the Unofficial Patch, then you'll just have to bite the bullet. Personally, there are way too many things wrong with the unpatched game to even try going without it. You can lose entire disciplines because of a misclick, you can lose save data, you can brick your game's progress entirely, and worse. I'm someone who actively criticizes how many changes wesp has made even to the basic patch, and I would still suggest using it over nothing.
>>737245075It's just not worth it really, the game is just much better patched and it takes like few minutes. Just download it and run the installer, it's a no-brainer
>>737234894Despite everything, it is still the best "going out at night" game
>>737245901i miss source lighting so fucking much bros...
>>737245639It's criminal that his theme wasn't actually used in-gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qakZ94ng1nYIn fact VtmB is by far number 1 game in terms of absolutely fantastic tracks in its OST that went unused for some fucking reason. At least the patch restores most of them, though not always in fitting places
>>737237781Yes, videogames are famous for being as realistic as possible at all times, especially older games like Bloodlines
>>737237781VtM players are notorious cumbrains, most of the dedicated groups are freakier and hornier than even actual erotic RPG players and are often intertwined with local BDSM scenes. If anything Heather doesn't go nearly far enough for your typical Vampire female NPC, most descriptions of them I heard from dedicated VtM storytellers would make a feminist get a fucking aneurysm on the spot
>>737246553I agree. For me, it's LaCroix's theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDmc3E5GL5kI know everyone mocks Catboi LaCroix these days, but if he had this theme in the background whenever he was issuing you missions, I'd wager more players would've fallen under his spell and totally miss how badly he's wanted you killed since night one.
>>737246553>>737246945>enter ass theme song for a fucking wraithhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwKvAkBUBGE>enter ass theme for VVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQC9sToSdmM>enter ass theme for mr. oxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ERa3iMD7X4
>>737247150Holy shit, I could never figure out who the fuck "Edward" was supposed to be in this track's name. Always assumed it's either a cut character or an older name for someone. Thanks for solving this mystery for meAlso all that could ever be is legitimately among my favourite tracks of all time, its vibe is just impeccable. It's really special to me
>>737247304Both it and the Hollywood theme hit me hard. I didn't get a chance to hear All That Could Ever Be until after completing a few runs, but I remember going in as blind as possible to Bloodlines. I was having plenty of fun, but hearing the Hollywood theme and then running into Samantha made the entire setting "click". I'd never felt that way about a video game adaptation of a PnP before. The kind of nihilism that was Hollywood really set the mood for the rest of the game. The fun's over. Reality's here, and it's a bitch.
is this a game i can just jump into an enjoy or is one of those games where there's a bunch of retarded less-than-obvious unwritten pitfalls you can end up in when building your character
>>737248139There are zero (0) pitfalls that the game doesn't warn you about if you actively communicate with NPCs. Even IF you don't talk to certain NPCs who give you important advice, you can still brute force your way through the game. Most people will think you're insane or that you used the console if you do it this way, but they're retards still languishing over 1 of the 2 final bosses.
>>737248139It's not a difficult game and you should be fine going in blind, stats are also very self-explanatory. Make sure you install the patch though https://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-unofficial-patchBut if you do want some spoiler-free tips than here you go:>most of the quests and location can be completed in few different ways, but most of them have increasing stat requirements so it's important to pick some skills you want to focus on when developing your character rather than being an all-rounder>not having high lockpicking and computer skill can lock you out of some optional stuff>you can get through a major part of the game without combat either through sneaking or talking your way through, but in some places, especially late game, you will have to fight, so make sure your character is at least somewhat competent in that>Playing as an Malkavian gives you lots of weird dialogue and interactions, some of which are basically references you can get only once you know the story, so they are usually not recommended for your first playthrough>Playing as a Nosferatu makes it a bit harder to get around, but doesn't lock you out of any content unlike some people claim
>>737234894>picrelWhat's with this outdated meme format? What year are we in, 2012?
>>737248812I'm pretty sure this image has been floating around at least since then
>>737248721Ignore someone telling you which clan to play or not to play for your first run through. If you use the character creation wizard and they give you Malkavian, then play Malkavian. If they give you Nosferatu, then play Nosferatu. If they give you Gangrel, play Gangrel. And so on.Your first playthrough is going to be your most personal, so it should be done through the lens of the clan closest to you.
>>737249051>Your first playthrough is going to be your most personalFor me the 2nd playthrough of any RPG is always the most personal. 1st is testing the waters, 2nd is when I actually understand the setting, story, atmosphere and can come up with a character concept that fits it and that I would like to play
>>737248139The major one that the game will emphasize to you several times is that you need to be able to fight even if you're playing a social character.
>>737241683>shitty visual novelsFunny because Night Road is actually one of the best VtM games of all time
>first playthrough is a gangrel>can pinpoint the exact moment i went from "i'll try to be nice" to "everyone fucking dies" is when i got protean 5
>>737245075>I'm a bit lazy about installing something that downloads in 5 seconds, and has an executable installer inside of it that also installs the entire thing in 30 secondsPlease fucking kill yourself you worthless slug, I bet you can't even cook and get all your meals DoorDashed you fucking lazy sloth
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>>737249413I'll give it a shot then. Thanks for recommendation
>>737248812More like 2008. And yes, we should return to more innocent times, far from the incessant chafing sounds of the pornbrained and the seething hiss of the politically deranged. To better times. Shit, I'm reinstalling Deus Ex.
>>737249872I have dude sex, morrowind, half life, bloodlines, thief, bg2 and system shock 2 on basically a rotating list which is occasionally interrupted by tf2, dawn of war soulstorm and civ 4basically every good game has already been made
>>737249603It's not really a visual novel like the New York games...there's almost no art at all except to show you how certain characters look one time. But if you like the setting and don't mind reading, yes it is definitely one of the best VtM games ever. Certainly better than all the other CYOA novels (Parliament of Knives is a close second for me, but I'm a sucker for the more political parts of VtM).I'd honestly argue that even the visual novels themselves aren't that bad. Coteries has a fucking amazing soundtrack that I use all the time when Storytelling my games.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o45wrjfDAhU
>>737250098Yeah, soundtrack from those is often pretty cool as RPG ambience. I don't run VtM (though I played it in the past), but I do run classic Hunter: the Reckoning and did use those tracks for it in the past
>>737250043Hell yeah, dude. I'm playing FF9 today (just entered disc 2) and after that, I'm hitting MGS2 for a change. It's a very early version of the problem with literature, which is that there's four hundred years of masterworks by unparalleled geniuses, so why the fuck would I touch anything contemporary? People often don't realise just how great the older stuff is, unironically great.
how do you respond without sounding mad?
>>737249872You are always free to walk away from the board.
>>737241683WoD actually has a couple of good games though they're all different genres. Both of the VR games and Redemption are great, Swansong is alright, the rest is VN though
>>737246945>>737247150The soundtrack for this game is immaculate anons, it's a shame we'll never get anything like it again.
>>737249372>>737249514>Jack tells you these days a kindred has to stay packingThe game loves to beat you over the head with it
>>737249603>>737250098The text games are pretty good overall except for two (Sins of the Sire and Out for Blood I believe), definitely would recommend checking them all out. Admittedly the lack of visuals and a soundtrack is a bit rough for what you'd expect of this IP but they're pretty good. Other good ones I can recommend>Book of Hungry Names (this is Werewolf though)>Glenkildove (Hunter)Both great, not as good as night road maybe.
>>737250704I will go to the Elizabeth Dane.
It's probably a good thing I wasn't born female, because I'm such a massive instigator and shitposter IRL that I would absolutely get bitchslapped and raped for saying half of the things I did as a woman in Bloodlines.
>>737250969You know that's not true. We're all here forever, until the jeets finally overrun us.
>>737249787Why is jav so kino always
>>737251970The Japanese female was specifically designed by isolated island evolution to be sexually humiliated, degraded, abused, and exploited.
>>737252048Japanese male too
Hopeful on a scale of 1 to 10 about Teyon's WoD game?6.5/10 for me
>>7372522397, seems interesting but not enough was shown to form an opinion
>>737250994Obligatory reminder:>Redemption 2 never ever
>>737252164Absolute fucking coin toss. The amount of respect they had when making the Robocop game means they won't bungle the setting like Chinese Room, and HtR is a goated splat to run, but setting it in modern day means we will be running V5 rules AND the Robocop game itself didn't have much going for it beyond faithful presentation.
tfw no commie industrial metal gf
>>737254040When I told her I make my own destiny and she said that was so real I got the appeal.
>>737252239>Robocop was genuinely wholeheartedly a good adaptationSolid 7.5 for me, remains to be seen since H5 is a bit shitty and this IP is CURSED.>>737252508You will get Cristoff mentioned rarely in the books and games and you WILL be happy
>>737252625>didn't have much going beyond faithful adaptationIt was a good shootah for what it was, competently directed. It wasn't some blow out ala FEAR (1) or HL2, Halo, World at War, but it was solidly better than any modern shooter released in recent memory save for quirky indie games
>>737254040throwing up tags on that one camarilla company building with damsel then we ride around on my kawasaki and look for a snack past midnight
>>737254040>>737254308>>737254628it should be illegal for men to date/fuck retarded women
>>737249457I wish Protean didn't get worse as you put more points into it. Claws and war form both have jank ass animations.
>>737254697All women are retarded anon.
>>737250098>mfw third New York went with AI-looking art
>>737254697I too am a Brujah Anarch thoughbeitever
>>737250994>Swansong is alrightstop, anon. you'll summon.... HIM.
>>737234894Unrelated to Masquerade, but has anyone played Nighthawks?
>>737252625that's honestly a wrong read on both werewolves and mages
>>737254934I don't even know who him is, but that Malk chick? She can get it. Honestly even the Toreador-bro was pretty hot until he became Deadpool .>>737254871Huge downgrade after the first two
For the text games I loved Parliament of Knives and Night Road, what else do I look into?
>>737255207>WerewolvesYeah, somewhat.>MagesNah, it's kind of on the money. It's just that mages don't think about normies at all because they're too busy dealing with other mages
>>737252625>HtR adaptation>But it's lukewarm modern HtR which has none of the things that made either of the previous versions of Hunter compelling or originalsigh
>>737255034Tim Curry?
>>737256152You like Vampire only or you like WoD in general?
>>737256496Hunter and Mage are also good but I don't like werewolf
>>737236519I think Tremere ruined the game for me because I don't wanna play as anything else ever againI hate how it's actually fun
>>737256496I'm not particular, but I've only ever played the VtM 20th anniversary ed. of the tabletop.
>>737256570>HunterThere's technically 3 cyoa hunter games though I've heard the xbox reckoning trilogy was alright.>Out for BloodIt's Hunter but working with V5 rules, kind of mediocre>GlenkildoveActually really good, good understanding of the tone and themes but leaves a bit to be desired on the lore front. This is good though, since Hunters aren't meant to be privy to whatever the fuck vamps or werewolves get up to.>A time of monstersIt's alright, you play a canadian hobo and that seems to be the main hurdle for most people. It's not really "Hunter" but it takes place in WoD.>MageYou're shit out of luck friend, as we all are. No mage games sadly.>WerewolfBook of Hungry Names (cyoa) and some VN games (Earthblood is bad). Both of the VN games coast by off of aesthetics instead of actual werewolf stuff from what I've read up, the cyoa is actually really good but that's if you can stomach the lore raping of W5 and the length. It's like 2 million words.
>>737257068I wish I could get a group together for an actual WoD game, would be fun.
>>737257276>I've heard the xbox reckoning trilogy was alright.It's an alright hack'n'slash, but it has little to do with the investigation, personal horror and human drama that are the actual key components of the tabletop HtR A more RPG-like HtR could be amazing
>>737257427I highly recommend trying to do that, it's a ton of fun. Last game we all played had us fuck each other over and my character fled to Romania to escape. 10/10 would do it again.
>>737257527Yeah, WoD is great with a good group. I've ran a pretty long Hunter campaign last year that ended up with the players doing a fucking terrorist bombing of a skyscraper and then going into hiding as hobos. Ironically enough this actually made them save the city
>>737254040calves need to be way bigger and more muscularseriously she has some beefy defined calves ingame, maybe its just a brujah thing
>>737234894my only exposure to wod games is bloodlines, and that werewolf mission had me thinkingis bloodlines the only piece of vampire media to actually hold werewolves to a degree of respect? Its the only vampire story that actually shows what werewolves have over vampires i.e being infinitely stronger in every physical way and impervious to all vampire sorcery or weapons, and all vampires avoid the shit out of them out of sheer fearmeanwhile in twilight theyre just oversized dogs compared to the vampires being just as physically strong + magical, and in the underworld series theyre basically orks, moderately strong and angry brutes, getting sliced up daily by vampires iirc
>>737260285Skyrim had some cool ideas but very poor execution
>>737237781Not D-cups but her waist might be considered fat by the standards of the era. We had it so good
>>737260285It's been fucking ages since I've watched that and I only recall an extremely vague outline of the story, but wasn't pic related about a Vampire/Werewolf war in which both sides were more or less equal strength-wise?As for WoD, Werewolves are a bit of a "high floor, not that high of a ceiling" situation. They're strong and can easily massacre a young supernatural of a different kind, but actual fairly old vampires or experienced mages reach such bullshit power levels that they are usually able to deal with a wolf without much issue. Although it's worth mentioning that while the one in vidya is just strong and tough, many of them have a set of bullshit special powers of their own
>>737235768You mean Clifornian
>>737254697
>>737247150He threw a fucking phone at me
Toreadors mog all don't @ me
>>737260808when will we get wide bronson...
>>737263026roflmoa
>>737262396ywnbah (you will never be a human)
>>737235202>ran out of chicken
>>737260805tbf outside of like a 5th Gen vampire or s high level mummy there's nothing that can actually fight a werewolf directly
>>737252239Please make a different thread for this kind of stuff, I want to enjoy my comfy bloodlines nostalgia in peace, not be reminded of Paradox zombie WoD.
>>737260285It's a holdover from the tabletop, where werewolves (before they got their own game) were a railroading tool to prevent the players from fucking off to the middle of nowhere. It was a bad call IMO, some of the best vampire stories take place in the boonies. But Bloodlines re-uses the idea to have a late game encounter you can't brute force. Not to mention, while the writers themselves would swear up and down they didn't, there was a lot of power creeping, scale creeping, and deliberately played up "look how much cooler this is" rivalry stuff in the later game lines in order to get more people to play the other ones, since a lot of players just stuck to vampire. WoD in general had a lot of issues IMO and I'm glad that Bloodlines only touched on the wider world. Prevented it from crossing most people's bullshit threshold. >>737260808Alfa please try to rein SpeakerD in more. I do not want him to introduce another 12 characters so he can gush about Mage more.
being violently cowgirled and bitten by damsel thats all i came here to say
>>737269684Elder tier thinking in a neonate filled world.
Did anyone actually touch bloodlines 2 or is it that fucked?
>>737236139It does, unless they changed it at some point in the last year or two. You neglected her, this sin is yours alone.
>>737270723It's even worse than so bad you can make fun of it, it's offensively mid.
>>737270728Nah you can still just tell her to stay inside.You don't even need to sacrifice her for the body armor now, at least not if you play plus.
>>737245207I've talked to him direcly about it, he told me that all you have to do is to apply the patch and not iniciate though the patch exe, that way you'll only get the engine fixes.
FUCK THE GRAVEYARD QUESTFUCK IT
>>737273431I always just glitch that one
>>737273431Just go buy the poor guy a hooker.
I can't play any other clan after doing Malkavian. They are way too fun
>>737234894>they abandoned 2 werewolf apocalypse games to ruin this classicnot even mad, i knew it was inevitable
>>737273431This but the nosferatu sewersI refuse to believe not a single person opened console and sv_friction'd that entire fucking piece of shit maze
>>737273647retard option is always the fun option.
>>737273715>abandonedEarthblood was GIGA shovelware tier, but Spirit of Gaia and the other one were in supreme dev hell
I still dont understand if the sarcophagus actually had an antewhatever or if it was just a regular mummy jack had
>>737275951Regular mummy. Just some ancient dude.
>>737275951The latter, the human archaeologist was right, all the hints about the guy's unusually long reign and such were completely mundance, non-vampire historical shenanigans and exagerrated myth.
>>737276085>>737276170thanks, i bet jack wouldve ate the mummy if it was an ante, even though he acts like hes above it
>>737276321Anyone would have. Frankly, anyone should. If you open a coffin and find an antediluvian, having dinner might be the only way to save everyone in a considerable distance. That is, if you can before he wakes up.
>>737276447Doesn't this allegedly end up backfiring horribly if there's a huge generational gap, resulting in the sucker just getting taken over from the inside by the suckee?Sounds like cammy propaganda when you really think about it.
So looking through the game files, unless there's something missing (possible, it is WIP) seems like Damsel is going to show up in the DLC for Bloodlines 2, fuck over Benny somehow, then say, "Later, knuckles!" and run off. Exactly the kind of in-depth interactions we've come to expect from this franchise.
>>737276827Wiki says yes, but that would still be preferrable to an antediluvian just waking up.There's also this neat gem:> The aggressor, dubbed the diablerist, automatically loses some of its Humanity and is branded by black streaks in their aura that may persist for several years.Did our Cabbie drink the no-no juice?
>>737277134I read that hes supposedly meant to be caine, which is a little silly me to me, yeah the progenitor of our entire existence, god among men and kindred, who can literally reshape the fabric of reality with his disciplines, is just casually taxi'ing us around
>>737276447>>737276827Diablerizing an Antediluvian is a horrible idea. If you're able to suck it down, you should just kill it instead. Even then, it's not likely. Of the four attempted diableries of Antediluvians, only 1 really succeeded. Even drinking a Methuselah is risky unless you're at least an Elder. >Troile diablerizing Illyes (Brujah)This is the only one that seemed to work flawlessly. It took place before recorded history, by the Antediluvian's childer, when said Antediluvian was much younger and thus weaker. This is how the Brujah Clan as we know it came to exist btw. >Tremere diablerizing SaulotHe actually did manage to suck down Saulot's soul, but it immediately backfired and he spent the next 1000 years rarely conscious, slowly losing a war for his own body with Saulot. Saulot may or may not have planned this depending on who is writing. >Augustus Giovanni diablerizing CappadociousHe managed to slay Cappadocius, but failed to suck down his soul, which wound up as a ghost. Yes, there is a ghost antediluvian now.>Lugoj Blood breaker trying to diablerize The Eldest (Tzimisce)Didn't even get to the sucking part, got devoured instead and then the Antediluvian impersonated him to his followers, making Lugoj tonight's biggest loser.So yeah, don't try to diablerize an Antediluvian. Killing them would be easier and that's still a herculean task.
>>737275951The sarcophagus never had anyone of importance inside.>>737276447Back in like 2022 this was the plot of BL2. Fabien is this arrogant thinblood dickhead who sneaks into the warehouse and tries to drain the elder in the coffin. This goes very badly for him because the elder wakes up. This was after an even earlier draft where Fabien was some kind of diabolical mastermind working with Elif who orchestrated the whole thing by going to the warehouse, "failing" to drain you, and then getting drained, all part of le plan. The plot went through a lot of changes.The reason this is a problem is that the earlier version of the plot had Nomad/Phyre drain Fabien in a pissy anger fit. That makes sense. A "how fucking dare you" tiff. The revised version has Fabien drained in a blind animalistic hunger, and that's not how diablerie is meant to work. The game handwaves it with "the mark".
>>737277265That theory is based on his game files, but I also heard the competing theory that he just believes he is, because Malks be Malking.
you know in hindsight being a vampire doesnt seem so fun
>>737277419They intended him to be Caine, but White Wolf said no, you can't do that.
I wish we got more on our sire
>>737277353>The sarcophagus never had anyone of importance inside.SAY HIS NAME#JusticeForMesserach
There's some interesting stuff in the localization files for the DLC, but the story seems fairly by the books. Benny is a fruit-loop who wants to Make Kindred Great Again, disgusted by the hypocrisy and decay in the camarilla, tired of being manipulated by Safia and disillusioned by the Gardener's esoteric bullshit. I honestly feel, though, that this first DLC is really more about trying to jam as much The Gardener exposition into the game as possible to prop him up as a character because he was severely underdeveloped. Gideon and the Gardener felt like completely different people (because they basically were, developed in isolation, written by different people).
>>737273873>nosferatu sewersIs it possible to save that nosferatu girl that rushes past into a 1v2? I got pretty close with suicide but i havent tried celerity
>>737278202Yes.Also patch makes it pretty easy actually.
>>737278010I think that was left nebolous on purpose because much of it doesn't really make sense. We're too strong to be the childe of some schmuck that Lacroix can have executed with no issue.
>>737276447>>737276827>>737277134>>737277278>Absorb a walking GOD when you're the equivalent of a level 10 wizardYou'd be lucky to not die instantly when some dude that has pent up anger against Daddy and a literal reality bending aura wakes up, but assuming you do get to the succ>9/10 anyone sub Willpower 10 or above will just get taken over>Elder Wakes up midway through and kills you since this dude has infinity blood to suck>Even if you split his soul between all your goons he'd probably still have enough power over you to take you overDiablerizing an older vampire two gens above you is already presented as an extremely impressive feat in the tabletop, so imagine doing it to some dude that was on a first name basis with Caine
>>737277807They still let him be Caine more or less, he's clearly a vampire but he's not wary of the sun and just does whatever he wants. LaCroix didn't even pay him to ferry you around, he just does it for love of the game. They are vague about it though, which is why it got to go mostly through.White Wolf saying no is pretty damn gay of them though.
>he hasn't played arcanumIs he afraid of the jank? Is he even a VTMB fan?
>>737279357>are you even a fan of <game> if you didn't play <different game>
>>737249296That's how I feel about first and second playthroughs too. I ended up playing Malk first then pretty much replaying as Malk right after because I liked it so much. Both playthroughs were great for different reasons.
>>737278258hectic, will try it tonightIm expecting her to reward me with a disgustingly rotten snaggle tooth french kiss
>>737279357>>737279546Good point but I guess there's just something about these older games that are written with passion and as sort of period pieces exploring pretty dark parts of humanity that go well together. It's a shame we don't get games like this anymore, everyone is either trying to one up each other with graphics or gorn or trying to be Rick and Morty
>>737277265>>737277419>>737277807>>737278779One million year-old reply, but the reason it's Caine isn't because it would be funny, it's because the game takes place in October/November 2004. In the original setting, the world ends in 2005. Caine is in LA because that's where the end of the world (for vampires) begins. It's the nexus where Kuei-jin, Camarilla, Anarchs, Sabbat, and caitiff all overlap perfectly and their bullshit causes the Masquerade to break so hard that WW3 starts.
A bit off-topic, but are any of the VtM/WoD novels worth a read?
>>737280527Reminder that if Stephen King wrote "It" today he would've been accused of being a pedophile because, in the postmodern world, readers believe writers only write things they themselves personally believe, value, and are aroused by.
>>737281736Truly awful direction the world has gone in. Granted, it's fucking weird, but I don't outright think King is a pedophile for it. The Blood Meridian author wrote some dark shit but I don't think he craves raping kids. Of course though, sometimes the writers are clearly fetishizing the material but it is what it is.
>>737255034I thought it was in dev hell
>>737280258>nosferatu fetishist nastiest anon ive seen here in a while
What is your go-to clan, anons? For me, it's Brujah.
>>737285081Tzimisce when they eventually release the playable mod
>>737285081Ventrue, it's a really versatile clan. If you're a veteran and know how to really maximize your exp gain and where to put it, you can pretty much do everything competently.
>>737273431Just run back and forth between both gates and kill anything close to them.
>>737254901fuck off to your shitty altchan>>737278024>the anarchs didn't wake him upSad!
>>737254506Which books are he mentioned in?
How bad was the sequel?
>>737288039Bad, but also not memorable enough to reach meme status, so the worst and most boring kind of bad.
>>737288039The sequel is muddled. It has excellent writing, top notch voice acting, super strong art design and very good music. But a profound identity crisis. It is two different games by different writers (the guy who wrote Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs and the guy who Amnesia: Rebirth) glued together with hastily recorded voiceover to bridge the gaps. The core gameplay design is bad/frustrating in a way where they knew it was bad years ago, but the internal chaos of the developer prevented anything being fixed. They're still working on it, though, and there are two story expansions coming. Who know what it'll be like by the time they abandon it. Personally they should rip out the entire combat system and replace it with the gunplay+melee one they're building for the DLC. But I don't think they'll do it. I don't think they have the nerve.
>>737290593>it has excellent writing, top notch voice acting why say this when faggot lisp nosferatu along with the countless other tone deaf millennial writing is 1 google search away
>>737290782Are you saying David Menkin wasn't fantastic as Tolly? Why?
>>737234894Doing my first playthrough Can anyone give me a decent starting build for firearm main
>>737290782>>737291115Oh, I knew I recognized that voice.
Are we cursed to never have a game as good as Bloodlines? There's literally no other game like it.
>>737290782>countless other tone deaf millennial writingSuch as?
>>737291123Probably toreador.Celerity starts good and becomes amazing
>>737291195RoboCop Rogue City is going for a pretty similar vibe, but it's sorta its own thing.
>>737291595Teyon can make a really good vtm game with actual decent combat
I am interested to see what the gunplay is like in Benny's DLC, because it seems like using his pistol and picking up melee weapons is going to be the core of the combat system.
>>737290593>and there are two story expansions coming.Actually, there are THREE story expansions coming. I am as surprised as you are. The third DLC hasn't been revealed yet, but a mention of it showed up in the files of the latest patch.
Imagine being a vampire and then getting a vampire gf. What would you even do? Vampires don't even find sex enjoyable anymore.
>>737292151Actually, a lot of vampires do like sex. That got retconned way back, for better or worse.
I bought this game because of her and i was disappointed that she appears so little in it i didnt know that the developers of Batman Arkham Asylum stole Jeanette design to create Harley Quinn realistic design in Batman Arkham games
>>737290593>It has excellent writingYou need to stop existing. Whatever it is you need to do to stop existing, do it.
>>737292151>Vampires don't even find sex enjoyable anymore.wait wut, why? what even is the reason? is it just theyre le dead so they cant feel, thats retarded, by that logic they should all be emotionless robots devoid of character because the same chemicals in the brain handling emotions also handle pleasure and pain
>>737293382The idea is that one drop of blood produces more ecstasy in a vampires brain than a thousand shots of heroin or the best blowjob by the love goddess herself. They can have sex, it's just like finding a penny on the sidewalk in comparison.
I wish the game was good, it's really the only thing of its kind
>>737247150for me it's Poinsettia https://youtu.be/f9CK0gf9mbs?list=PLq33m2Vzy0f64hc2Vzc5AGVMVmfWFxWzS
>>737292587mogged by VV anyway, sexier body, not trying too hard to sound slutty and better voice >mfw her "mmmmhmmmm"
>>737292587her sister is better
>>737293795Vampire the Masquerade is a board game with great lore why dont you try playing it? i think this game has a sequel i havent played it yet is it any good? if you havent played it like me why not play the sequel?
>>737292945Imagine trying to claim that the writing isn't great. They never should have caved to Malk fans. Dickhead thinblood Fabien who complains constantly and takes no responsibility for his actions was the superior character.
>>737294356>Imagine trying to claim that the writing isn't great.You're spending the whole game with a "I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DO NOW!?!?!?" faggot in your head who can't stop giving color commentary on literally everything you do or every person you talk to. Yes, the writing is dogshit.
He's right behind me, isn't he?
>>737294931Maybe.
>>737236745>almost every thread is just 1 malk samefaggingliterally me
>>737294834Is this literally your first piece of noir media, ever?
>>737294834As I said, they made a huge mistake rewriting Fabien into a Malkavian. The original version where he was a completely obstinate dickhead who complained about everything and blamed you for everything and accepted absolutely no responsibility for his own failings was a far stronger character. Stop trying to make characters "likeable". Embrace them being unapologetic whining shitters.
>>737290593>very good musicOnly the Rik Shaffer staff that wasn't used in the original Bloodlines, the rest of the Score is pretty meh
>>737296368Nah, the Schaffer stuff is super mid. The new composers stand out a lot more.
>>737295884Not that poster, but no. It's not noir. It's not just hearing a character's inner monologue. It's the same thing so many other video games do where they have the voice in your head thing that never stops talking and always tells you what to look at and think and feel while you're playing and it's shit pretty much every time because it never gives you a moment to think or feel on your own. Plus your own character ends up in a dialogue with them too which is not the audible inner monologue of noir.
>>737296402https://youtu.be/8agSP6MyCYg?si=bb69L938_JszGlRzhttps://youtu.be/SWt5rNmuUw8?si=eaI5MJatnSbyo2Jhhttps://youtu.be/6CKpAyeQpQA?si=yYl5pWlmXhoA_R_Dhttps://youtu.be/EwJ_X7QGC1E?si=3nqmyOC0lZ-CDXKrMy main criticism of the score is that there isn't nearly enough Mike Lane club music material. Maybe there will be more in the DLC.
>>737296428>Plus your own character ends up in a dialogue with them too which is not the audible inner monologue of noir.It is directly inspired by Hit-Monkey, which is definitely neo-noir. I'm not just saying that, they explicitly listed it as one of the game's main inspirations years ago. The protagonist who constantly speaks to a guy in a suit that nobody else can see or hear.
>>737296428>>737296629The thing is, Fabien is arguably more of a protagonist than Nomad is. You spend a fairly large chunk of the game playing as him, and you basically spend the rest of the game doing his bidding more than anyone else's. I seem to recall that they actually removed a lot of dialogue so it would just be Fabien talking with nobody responding to him. Because they wanted to de-emphasize your presence in favor of his meandering observations. If you go back and look at the warehouse sequence in the early footage and the final game, most of Nomad's dialogue has been cut. They seem to have done this across the entire game.It's part of the game's wider identity crisis where it's clear that at some point they decided the central dynamic wasn't working. So they chose to retool Fabien into the defacto protagonist and hero of the story, instead of being your invisible companion.
>>737273431just have sex with him
>>737296945COME HERE ROMERO
>VTMB2 shill is at it againembarrassing
>>737296629>>737296762Yeah but did you ever think about how tickle my asshole_________________________________________________________________________
>>737297028w-would
>>737297097
>>737296762I think this identity crisis around Nomad/Phyre is why all three DLCs are about other characters. (I assume the Niko DLC has you playing as him, but to be fair I could be wrong.) They really didn't know what to do with the character, but were committed and couldn't pivot entirely to Fabien.
>>737236519wtf is wrong with women
>>737297247you either shag a bloodlines nosferatu or that fallout cowgirl ghoul npcmake your choice anon
Which clan and playstyle is the most fun for first playthrough?My problem with these type of games is that they made combat very poor and most of the real content is locked behind dialogue checks
>>737297987Toreador. Aside from being social and seductive being their whole shtick they have Celerity so the shit combat can be over quicker
>>737297987Arguably Toreador or Ventrue. They were clearly designed as the first time vanilla playthrough option.
>>737298085Should i go with default stats or make some changes?
>>737298134You mean the autofill during character creation? If so then it's okay but a little wasteful. I'd mostly just put points into persuasion/firearms/celerity, then defense/hacking/lockpicking as desired throughout the game. There's a good amount of things you can do with dialogue checks but just make sure you don't neglect combat too.
>>737245639Is it funny that everytime I met this guy I think its CJ from GTA? Came the same year as VtMB so it must be coincidence that source engine is capable of mimicking rockstar's game engine
>>737296113This has nothing to do with being Malkavian, that clan just raises the quality bar by a lot. To write a Malk who the player can argue and even fight with requires a level of writing that nobody can meet, at least nobody i can think of. The writing needs to be smart, not just quippy, and every dialogue scene would need to become a back and forth. Insight comes naturally to a Malk so Fabien would have to constantly call you out on shit that is buried in your subconscious or bring up events in the near future. Stuff he can't even make sense of and that sounds like cryptic bullshit to the player. Malk is just extremely difficult to get right, especially with a story that keeps evolving. Basically you would have to write that character when everything is set and done and then use him to spoil the whole game in a way that nobody understands.
>>737273431>stand in corner>alt tab for 5 minutes>????>profit
>>737297987>>737298124Ventrue make amazing tanks if you specialize in Fortitude and Presence. Sometimes you can use Dominate in dialogue to get stuff you might otherwise miss out on.
>>737271669I'd also like to add that he's made a large effort to remove most of his dumb changes into the seperate Plus version, in 2026 the Basic version is pretty much the definitive way to play IMHO even though there are still a few questionable "fixes".
>>737277265Taxi driver would be one of the few fitting disguises for Caine to have. He is cursed to eternally wander the world of his children, never allowed to be a part of it while watching them mess each other up.
>>737296762I think a big problem is that the writing is very modernist reddit no matter who you speak to, the post Whedonist world is a mistake. There's not much gravitas to the dialogue unlike with the original game, and this compounds with Fabian's vocal work being very flat and boring on top of simply not being interesting. He's a Malkavian, sure, but you don't actually get the feel for it outside of the talking to evidence but and the vague sense of being a weird detective. Paradox and TCR want to have their cake and eat it too with having a Malkavian but only at a surface level, just like they only have Nosferatu at a surface level or Tremere at a surface level. Not much substance to your supernaturally insane vampires if they're actually fairly lucid and nothing really happens on-screen. The chick in Swansong? Much more developed as a Malkavian.
>>737255207It is pretty much hammered home that werewolves are seen as ticking time bombs that are not in control of themselves so hunters not getting a good read on them is a given.
>>737303492>There will be a fuckable Werewolf in Deathwish and it WILL get you killed ala Samara's daughter in ME2I feel like monster hunters fucking monsters is kind of a trope.
>>737245639>>737298825He literally looks like they ripped the fat CJ model from the GTA SA, even the ears lmao
>>737285081>brujahstickin out dat gyatt fer da rizzler
>>737297987PLAY WHICHEVER CLAN THE QUIZ GIVES YOU STOP LISTENING TO OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS AND STOP GIVING NEWFAGS YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT WHICH CLAN TO PLAY FIRST YOU FUCKS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>737297987All clans with celerity and Tremere for their Blood Thaumaturgy. Never go full diplomat.
>>737305109Based, and I consider this still a cool way to do it. I overrid it with Malkavian because I couldn't stop myself.
>>737305817I want to be clear that I don't hate you personally but as a <<<GANGREL GANG>>> member who went his own way (#GGTOW) I can't help but get a smug smirk when I read someone is proud of their virgin run being as a Malk.
>>737278321Maybe grandsire was a powerful, low-generation vampire, and sire is low-generation but a neonate and an idiot on top of that, and let themselves get got.
>>737291854>Niko DLCGTA: Seattle here we come
This game really wasn't that good. I remember being excited for it back then, then it released and it was an unplayable buggy piece of shit. Even the parts that were playable somewhat were underwhelming. I don't get how this game got such a big following in the meantime. Yes I'm over 40.
>>737237781>they would really have you believe that a girl with a sex bombshell body like that was ignored at bullied at school because she had a 6/10 faceForget the vampires and ghosts, this was the least realistic thing in the game.
>>737250994>Both of the VR gamesThere's a VtM VR game?
>>737278010>>737278321>>737305953It's non-negotiable that the player is 8th gen. The sire is 7th gen. The Anarchs had held LA since 1944, which means there's an in-setting nearly 60 years before the Anarchs were actually tested after getting largely complacent. The only reason the Camarilla are back in LA is because the Kuei-jin beat the shit out of the Anarchs because the Anarchs had grown weak. Even though the sire would be 7th gen, they wouldn't have gotten anywhere near their potential if they had been embraced in LA during its relative Anarch peace.Anecdotally, one of the big points of the game is that the player is 8th gen, but they are gaining power ABSURDLY fast, to the point where even Andrei is losing his shit over how strong you're becoming and LaCroix is baffled that you keep surviving missions you shouldn't unlive through.
>>737304847KINDRED GET YE GONE
>>737306414VtM Justice, it's Vampire Dishonored in Venice
>>737234894Fuck you, now I want to reinstall this and it's not even October. Has anyone tried Barabbah's addon or The Final Nights mod? Played vanilla with unofficial patch so many times, looking for something that feels somewhat fresh.
>>737273873I played it the way God intended, running around while avoiding all combat until I found a way out. I convinced my brother to play this game and when he got to the sewers he did the opposite, killing every single enemy he saw down there.
stop lusting after evil asian women
>>737306230The best part of the game is doing the quest for the bail bondsmen and pretending you're a vampire detective. It really falls apart after the very beginning
>>737306230>>737309003
>>737307725>The Final Nightsits alrighty, some of the clans are low effort and some of them are fun, it doesnt add that many new content though afaik>>737285592>he doesn't knowAnyway, I might try the LA by Night mod soon
>>737277028>dlc for Bloodlines 2Why? For what purpose?
>>737308863Where is this Ming poster from?
>>737281554>In the original setting, the world ends in 2005.I thought it was supposed to end in 1999 or 2000. Why 2005?
>>737310416If you gather useless shit for Gary he'll send you pin-ups of various chicks that you meet in the game.>>737310457It was planned that way. Everything from oWoD was set to end by the end of 2004 so 2005 could be the year of New World of Darkness. Vampire: The Requiem released in 2004 so the RPG audience would know that Masquerade (and other oWoD products) would no longer be getting support after 2004. It's one of the reasons Bloodlines was shoved out the door unfinished and buggy.That didn't happen in practice, obviously.
>>737310687post the other ones
>>737285081Ventrue and Brujah, but Malkavians, Nosferatus, Lasombras and Tzimisce also deserve a honorary mention
>>737310831I don't spoonfeed, newfag.
>>737303492because woofs are aware they're fighting a losing battle. hell, "apocalypse" isn't just a catchy phrase with them.
>>737311634If the woofs would just pay attention to the Black Spiral Dancers and destroy the world so it can be rebuilt, then they wouldn't have to languish and suffer so much.
>>737293382Generally their bodily functions don't really work like normal anymore unless they spend some of the accumulated blood to make it run again for a while.So they can make their genitals work again and enjoy sex, but only temporarily and at the cost of eating through their blood reserves quickly.And like the other Anon said, it kind of loses its appeal for most because blood is just so much better and because as time goes by most vamps tend to quickly lose their humanity and most human feelings and cravings along with it
>>737310302It was promised by Paradox and TCR 6 thousand years ago. It's a shame both of the characters were squandered into one dimensional archetypes
Hope that HtR game turns out okay.
>>737311634Werewolf has to be the funniest, most gonzo, jarring, and depressive setting in all of WoD man, it's fucking hilarious.>Fight against literal black boogeymen who exist to rape and plunder>Fight against evil corporations that would make the Nazis and Koch brothers blush for how morally bankrupt they are>Your allies are all gay and retarded chuds who work on simple binary>Encouraged to treat your family members and your friends family members like shit (and maybe rape them a bit)>Still a jobber who will die young to push back the coming apocalypse maybe a year
>>737293382The writers couldn't decide on this either bro. Some people swear they don't fuck, but this is also the same series that had an official porn novel.
>>737312016Anon, I...
How come there aren't any video games for most of the other WoD series?
>>737312016If it's based on H5 they'll have an uphill battle, but devs have shown themselves to be decent and capable of AA productions.
>>737312109werewolf is great
>>737293382>>737312110what happened was gradual shift towards catering more and more to the masquerade larp scene. vampire doesn't function on biology anymore. blood basically fuel for the metaphysical engine that powers vampires and is their sole obsession. keep in mind that doesn't make their HEART actually functional, no more than their lungs don't atrophy simply because they need emulate breathing so they can talk.
>>737312109And they made things infinitely more difficult for themselves when they genocided a whole bunch of other shapeshifters. Turns out a warrior class like werewolf is going to have a hard time filling in other roles.
>>737312162how many parenting references are we having?
>>737312110And a damn shame too, imagine changeling, werewolf, or mage porn
>>737312109>>Encouraged to treat your family members and your friends family members like shit (and maybe rape them a bit)Reminder Kinfolk are totally gone from W5.
>>737312404Zero (0), it takes place in Brooklyn. You'd be more likely to find a Beastie Boys reference.
>>737312532Man I hope they cover the era before MCA died
>>737312161Werewolf had some shovelware, Hunter had a few mid hack'n'slashes back on OG Xbox. Mage for some reason has nothing, but with how freeform and floaty magic is in WoD I guess it could be a bit hard to make a game based on it without simplyfing it a lot. Other WoD series are honestly niche as fuck Also despite being quite popular and a cult classic among RPG/LARP players, interestingly enough the vast majority of dedicated WOD fans I've met don't have much interest in vidya in general. They're mostly theatre kids, historical reenactors and other kind of nerds with hobbies that are more centred around going out and interacting with people
>>737312532>You'd be more likely to find a Beastie Boys reference.I NEVER BEEN TOOKEN OUTI KEEP MC'S LOOKING OUT
>>737313467Man I hope they cover the era before Ol' Dirty Bastard aka ODB died
>make an urban fantasy setting>call it World of Darkness>chop every individual monster into its own sub-setting>put in zero effort to make them fit together well, justify it in letting each be freer to be its own thing>this would make sense if not for the fact you were constantly referencing (but never properly integrating) them between sub-settings>get the worst of both worlds of separate settings and a unified settingWhy were they like this?
>>737314187Artist brains high on mid weed and coke. It is what it is, they thought the Cult of Ecstacy was a cool thing man.
>>737314187Because the idea is whatever line you played was the canonical one. It still meant you used shit from others, but not necessarily 1:1.
>>737316348>It still meant you used shit from otherswell thats what bloodline did>wraith>werewolf>hunter
>>737317097It's difficult to explain unless you know tabletop. For example, how the idea of a hunter was treated in Masquerade until Hunter: the Reckoning was actually published. You'd have the vague idea of what you were dealing with as it wasn't clearly quantified or put into larger context.
>>737270723It would be a fine game if they called it anything other than Bloodlines 2.
>>737303756If that's the only way to stop her, one of us will have to make the sacrifice.
>>737314835>Cult of EcstacySounds like a good time to me
>>737317383>It would be a fine gamenot sure about that but it wouldn't have been as hated for sure
>>737317097Did Bloodlines have an imbued or something?
>>737317383>>737317885said it beforei'll say it againif bloodlines 2 had been the first requiem game no one would've hated it
>>737318609If Bloodlines 2 had been called anything else besides Bloodlines 2 no one would have hated it. Instead it was given a standard impossible to live up to, and didn't even try to reach.
>>737270723I played about an hour of it before refunding. Mainly just running around the hub world and looking at some of the locations I'm guessing you get quests from later.The world felt really shallow. Few NPCs you could interact with and the ones you could had nothing interesting to say.My favorite part of VTMB1 is hanging out in the hub locations and talking to randies so I knew from that hour with it that they had failed as a sequel.It also ran kind of shitty but that's a UE5 thing so I don't entirely blame TCR for it.The only good things I can say about it are it looks nice visually and the remixed Santa Monica theme when you first exit your apartment was a nice callback.Maybe it's good as its own thing. I dunno.
>>737316348You say that but there were a ton of books they published which broke that rule. That, and only barebones support for having non-splat versions of other supernaturals. Hence why I say it was the worst of both worlds.
>>737319219I'M MAD
>>737319383>chaos factorOh damn we got a knower here.
>>737319383>>737319634explain
>>737318286Hunters Hunter rather, no imbued but Numinae. It did have a ghost (Wraith) a werewolf and possibly an actual demon. Nevermind Kindred of the East material like the wereshark from beast courts or the Kuei-Jin. Iirc I don't remember the actual demon but I could have sworn there was one
>>737312274>>737312401>>737312518But I loved flawed heroes and maybe abusing kinfolk :(
>>737320152Mr. Ox.
>>737319697So, The Chaos Factor was an official premade adventure, if you're familiar with other TTRPGs, it's the same concept as Curse of Strahd of Tomb of Horrors. TCF was the finale of a series of premades that followed one throughline antagonist, Samuel Haight. Sammy, described in an ad for the chaos factor as "the ultimate badass" was a ghoul + werewolf + mage (kinda) who kept bopping around the setting finding new ways to achieve ultimate power, and was routinely protected by meter thick plot armor from being killed in any of them. The Chaos Factor was a premade designed to be played as either Vampires, Werewolves, or Mages (the three most popular gamelines, though vampire was the biggest by a wide margin), and involves all three as NPCs. This plot being: Sammy is running to Mexico in order to awaken, and bargain with what he believes to be an Antediluvian (which is in fact just a very old methuselah) for even more ultimate-r power than he had. The PCs are racing to stop Haight in a very silly cross-splat fustercluck that includes>The Methuselah's tentacle rape palace>An entire filler arc in Jordan (you go back to Mexico after) that you can skip if you find and read a map correctly>Supernatural race war in Mexico CityHaight will always die in the end, because even his death is railroaded. Either the PCs kill him outright, he over-uses his magic stick and it blows up, killing him (and probably some of the PCs too), or he does awaken the Methuselah who promptly one-shots him. It was not terribly well received by most, and marked a watershed moment where the writers started moving away from over the top nonsense. One even went so far as to claim that Haight was "always intended as a joke".
>>737320390>One even went so far as to claim that Haight was "always intended as a joke".tbf Height is a very silly character all the way through
>>737320390Name of said Methuselah?
>>737237781the game devs weren't necessarily using 2004 looks, but california used to be known internationally as the place with some of the most commonly beautiful women on earth.More so a decade earlier, before our obesity across the nation started to ramp up.it hit the lowest income people first and hardest.
>>737321404Huitzilopochtli most recently, he wasn't native to Mexico though. One of the Shaitans of the Baali, a bloodline of demon-worshipping vampires. He's 4th generation and pre-historically old, with demonic pacts to boot, making him one of the strongest non-Antediluvian vampires out there.
>>737320390>>737320549The core of Haight is actually rather alright>Abused CoG kinfolk jealous of his superiors and becomes a ghoul and then a skin dancer in order to get back at the GarouNot absurd, generally even if Woofs can't be ghouls you can wean off the vitae to become one.>Becomes power hungry asshole who just hates everyone because he got jewed by most people and he was always unwell anywayBelievable and actually pretty gripping as far as antagonists go>Becomes a mage with a magic stick and wants to be a vampire and he has supreme mega plot armor and he ignores all the Gaia/Wyrm nonsense because he's just him on top of thisThat's the real silly part, making a Woof/Vamp/Mage antagonist completely divorced from all the supernatural conflicts
>>737317851Its magi who do magicks through ecstasy and good feelings. Which yknow seems kinda okay at first, a really good song or whatever can be a cool vibe but half of them are on cheese pizza, the other almost half are into worse, they usually just care about feeling good, they sling drugs 24/7 and make everything into complete dogshit and think they are basically immune to any real consequences and have the ego of a maniacal sociopath.If they ever ruled the world, it'd be an avant garde awful dystopia.
>>737323751>immune to any real consequencesHow do I sign up?
bloodlines 2 was a pretty good game with the Vampire: The Masquerade lore and should not have been called bloodlines 2. It might have done pretty good as a cult classic if it stood as it's own thing.
>>737322014>BaaliThat clan was so much fun to play in TFN. Basically Tremere with Obfuscate which is completely broken but fuck it.
>>737323751So your typical LA resident?
>>737321705I'm gonna be honest, Cali's reputation for beautiful people was the result of all the idiots from the rest of the country who got psy-opped into thinking because they were hot, they could be a famous actor/actress. The nice weather making outdoor activities more comfortable probably had a hand into it too but it was largely people migrating to SoCal because they were already good looking in the first place.
>>737322014>BaaliWhy do none of the video games ever have the Baali in them?Bloodlines 2 plot would have made more sense if the Baali were involved, and it wasn't some random Camarilla bitch fest
>>737325207true, but that started a long time before the 90's.1920.California was a place for attractive people to seek out for stardom a LONG long time.
>>737236139>>737270728>>737271124is this related to the event where she talks about being followed?
>>737325207>>737326149And now few attractive people remain in Cali cities, even in Hollywood
>>737325616Baali are edgetastic in a setting known for putting necrophilic incest and reverse buck-breaking to print. They're supposed to be rare as fuck anyway.You'd have to Khornify them like 40k did to Chaos in most of their games.
>>737326686>reverse buck-breakingWhat?>necrophilic incestGiovanni?The only weird lore tidbits I remember are all the weird werewolf ones that are funny, like the poly supercuck-fest that are some BSD hives
>>737314187WoD is basically two settings. One is a kitschy Gothic horror-themed setting (Vampire, Hunter, Wraith, Demon) and the other is a power fantasy for New Age hippies who want to fight The Man (Werewolf, Mage, Changeling).
>>737327209Where does Mummy fit into that?
>>737327209>Mummy forgotten yet againYou're also forgetting about the kitschy gothic horror-theme setting where you are a new age hippy fighting The Man (Wraith) and the New Age Hippy that got told to work for the man or he'll get sent back to hell but that the world is beautiful and he should ascend beyond his petty grudges (Demon).Demon isn't really a horror game, if have to say, but you don't fight the man in that one.
>>737327320Mummy is closer to the first one since you kind of are The Man in mummy, but it's hardly a horror game as well. The setting is gothic and angsty but you're playing what normies imagine a Gigachad is so you do a lot of work fighting off entropy and doom cultists but without being a whiny sissy like the Vampire
>>737327209Ah yes, Wieckslop. Even demon can get on my nerves for its Lucifer glazing. >>737327320Mummy is weird. It, like the first Hunter book, was created before they had decided to commit to this whole individual game lines in their own sub-settings thing yet. As a result it's fairly small in scope and unambitious, but that also made it not too hard to use in crossover. 2nd edition expanded on this original concept somewhat, and then Revised happened. Mummies got turned into Primaris Mummies, and the whole thing felt very Mage and Werewolf adjacent, only with less broken powers at the cost of being Egyptian themed superheroes.
>>737327361>Demon isn't really a horror game, if have to say, but you don't fight the man in that one.I was careful to say horror-themed instead of horror.
>>737327209Nah, all of WoD is quintessential 80/90s leftie youth power fantasy, it's just that each game reflects a specific struggle that spoke to them>Vampire is rebellion against the authority, older generations and the messed up world order they've built, as well as the angst of feeling that you don't matter at all in the grand scale of things and the game is rigged against you>Werewolf is trying to save the environment, re-attuning oneself to it and fighting evil corpos, industrialists and capitalists.>Mage is the crushing feeling of banality, boredom, sterility, anonymity and pointlessness of modern urban/suburban world, the search for magic, adventure, spirituality and greater meaning in a society that seems hellbent on eradicating such things>Changeling is kind of the same as above>Hunter is the dread, frustration and responsibility of feeling like you're one of the very few who realise how messed up things are and that you desperately have to do *something*, even if it's a lost cause, but you can't even agree on what that thing should beHaven't read into Wraith or Demon much. But WoD has always been a counter-culture game at its heart, even if you can kind of ignore those roots and still enjoy it
>>737327005>>reverse buck-breaking>What?In Fall from Grace an Imbued hunter was captured by a vampire and forced to eat her out, in between sessions of sucking and being fucked by her BBC ghouls. He makes a pact with a demon to save himself.>>737327005>Giovanni?Yes. But the novels descend into that as well with non-Giovanni human characters. There's also the Malk who fucks her shota and turns him into a snuff pornographer, if I remember correctly. 90s and early noughties WOD fiction was wild. No wonder it attracts the type of people >>737246857 talks about.
>>737327776Completely fair anon>>737328345Jesus Christ what a read, thank you. I'll have to read up a bit more on the books but that sounds incredibly weird. Ironically, the weirder and more pornographic the fiction is the less I want to jerk off to it. Kind of like a bizarre period piece instead
>>737246553today i learned something new about vtmb
>>737246553What's the closest equivalent to Rik Schaffer in terms of IRL bands? I've listened his shit to death and need more.
>>737270723i finished it, it's really badi remember thinking that the story was full of plot points that made very little sense, but the whole game is so uninvolving and unloveable that i don't even remember what they were
>>737328250Considering your average VtM game is climbing the local Camarilla ladder and investigating occult mysteries, I think it's quite telling that the most popular and successful gameline is the one where the audience largely ignores its message. Maybe that's why the later gamelines were way more in your face, absurd, and tactless about it.
>>737317885yeah because then no one would've played it
The hotel wasn't scary, you are the spooker, you cannot be spooked.
>>737329691>Considering your average VtM game is climbing the local Camarilla ladder and investigating occult mysteriestbf WW only rolled into in later splat books. The original run was anarch-focused, but when they saw it was the money , they did pivot, which is something that would never happen now with V5, H5 or W5
>>737329812If it was called "Vampire: the Masquerade - Somethingelse" people still would've played it and wouldn't have been so harsh. There would still be various shitty things dragging it down but I imagine it would've gotten maybe closer to a 7/10 instead of the 5/10 it's at right now on Steam.
>>737329201The title theme is a copy of the song Angel by Massive Attack so check them out and other triphop stuff if you liked that.>I was more inspired by film composers and bands like Pink Floyd, Unkle, Fight Club soundtrack, Jerry Goldsmith, John Barry. But I do remember really liking the game Diablo. Particularly the acoustic guitars. I've had a few emails over the years comparing my music to Silent Hill. I've actually never played that game, or heard the soundtrack to it to this day.>I don't have that many recommendations. But maybe start with dark electronica artists, Fight Club soundtrack and Pink FLoyd's Echoes Just some quotes directly from Rik from some Reddit thing he did. Otherwise I would probably just listen to a bunch of gothic/industrial stuff until you find whatever you like. A lot of real bands were featured in-game in various ways if you haven't listened to their stuff more. Darling Violetta, Chiasm, Lacuna Coil, etc. And then there are various band posters all around, Collide was a good band that had a poster in-game.
>>737329968>Local kindred said shortly before the lick is perforated by 37 knivesYou'd shit your pants, and that's before the fire starts
>>737312109Apocalypse is at its best when everyone has to actually roleplay politics as extreme 90's stereotypes. It is a sight to behold when you have the viking nazi, a ball busting feminazi supremacist, an indian, and a vegan hippy all sitting down with a coon town Nigger slum lord all having a potluck with Scandinavian furries. Why? To gain favor to know a location of a secret tunnel to a backdoor to some unholy corrupted site that would bring down a super important corporate branch baking 10,000 babies in radiation for their next quarterly.Anyone else who isn't in it for this is typically doing it for the action and then get depressed when they notice the subtle nuance of the setting.
>>737330164if that was the case i would not have played it or refunded it after an hour like the other anon didbut their marketing department was very insistent that this a game people who want a VTMB2 should be happy with so i kept playing and kept getting disappointed
>>737330004Well yeah, that's what I mean. Nobody cared for being a punk vampire, because that is admittedly a crazy hypocritical position to hold. WoD5 is a victim of modern "never admit you made a mistake because then the stock will dip" corporate policy. Also a victim of swedish shitlibs.
>>737260285>is bloodlines the only piece of vampire media to actually hold werewolves to a degree of respect?
>>737331919That is a fun werewolf experience yes, probably best when it's near-cyberpunk levels of corporate parody and the baby blender is real but this is also something normies and companies are scared to death of
>>737260805>It's been fucking ages since I've watched that and I only recall an extremely vague outline of the story, but wasn't pic related about a Vampire/Werewolf war in which both sides were more or less equal strength-wise?If you mean physically maybe but the vampires were more powerful overall and winning against them.
>>737332276It's been a long time since I've seen this movie, and other than remembering from posted concepts that there were meant to be more werewolves originally, that the weapons looked cool, that the werewolf was kind of hot , I don't remember when he became one. It sort of just happens in the movie I think?
>>737260805>>737332689It sort of depends on if you're playing Apocalypse Werewolves or using Lupines/Werewolves from other books. Apoc Woofs are genuinely overpowered even with healing caps, gifts are absolute bullshit and fetishes are absolute bullshit, so short of things that can permanently and absolutely bend reality or wrestle a werewolf with a pinky like a 6/5th gen vampire or a high ranked mage or a strong Ferectoi, Werewolves don't lose unless they're crazy outnumbered. Werewolves in other books are cool and occasionally they have minor abilities but all they have going for them are big stats and regen, none of the cool insane gifts like the one that lets you flat out destroy a city block are given to them. The webseries Hunter the Parenting actually really does werewolves justice in this regard since the one werewolf did more damage and was a lot more threatening than a full sabbat pack and their 9th-ish gen diablerie-drunk leader and that was before getting to go all out with the gifts. Granted, Pyotr wasn't that strong
>>737332729>It sort of just happens in the movie I think?He gets bit fighting Anna's brother, and in that film lycanthropy first kicks in the first full moon since you got bit. So it only happens during the final showdown, and he's cured immediately after hulking out and slaying Drac (and Anna).
>>737332951Pyotr was only 10th gen after the diablerie, and he was the oldest of that pack at some 20 years dead. That pack was scrub tier. I don't care about how strong werewolves are or are supposed to be or any shit like that, just wanted to correct the record on how strong the tunnels pack was.
>>737333220I guess that's true too, it's pretty funny that Vampires sort of exist in a vacuum of potential between 8th and 13th gen. I still think the tunnel pack could have beaten the gang if they actually cooperated though but it wouldn't be a rookie-tier hunt if the quarry was actually fighting back properly.
Even if the new Hunter game turns out to be nothing but a 6/10 I'm gonna be pleasantly surprised. Anything even slightly better than vtmb 2 and I'll call it a victory.
>>737333772Oh sure, if vampires actually work together they can demolish hunters even without being individually strong. Generation is also only one factor (and what exactly it does for a vampire varies depending on if we're talking about VtM or V5), age is also major and the individual talent and skills of the vampire who was embraced is also a factor. Pyotr was 12th gen before the diablerie, the worst gen in the whole pack, but he was older and more cunning.
>>737303756>>737317461I volunteer as tribute
>>737335004I can tame her
>>737335285>>737335004If you aren't jacked and tall there's no hope for you anons
>>737335004>>737335285>the wolves are gonna be out for cum for that fire>we need to get out here>werewolves don't talk to us, werewolves don't care, they rape on sight>yeah im scared of werewolves, 500 pounds of tits and ass, condoms are useless and getting straddled is suicide, the only thing to do is run now lets get to the tram we're running out of time
>>737248139just make sure to level up a combat stat and don't judge guns by the ones you get in the first hub.that's really it.
Anyone else likes this guy as much as i do? Autarkis indiana jones(but high IQ) who is adventuring around despite everyone else is jyhading a north korea tier tight leash effect on the social enviroment. Plus gangrel. Whats not to like?
>>737335502Nines was kind of talking out of his ass in this scene (and all of his scenes) and I kind of respect him for being such a confident and based retard.>>737336023Beckett is really cool simply because he's both the one reasonable guy and also a nazi-tier scientist who WOULD abandon you if it was more sating to his curiosity. He's got facets, and he acts like a Gangrel (which is to say he has absolutely no care for the jyhad)
>>737335502>gets ambushed and tackled by a fucking werewolf>somehow killed it and we see him later completely chill and unscathedso was he lying about being "scared" or something? how did he get away so easily, is nines that powerful
>>737270723it's a pretty boring game even if you remove the bloodlines 2 from the title. but it isn't even bad in an interesting way. it's not a complete shitshow trainwreck, it's not hilariously retarded either (still plenty retarded).
>>737336023>Anyone else likes this guy as much as i do?Considering he's easily among the most popular WoD novel characters, I guess yeah
>>737336394>>737270723The game was so offensively mediocre and boring that even if like anon >>737334064 says, Deathwish is a 6/10 game that at least feels like a Hunter game (even H5) it'd already be much better than Bloodlines 2. By nature of looking like a real RPG as well I already say it has more potential.
>>737336350Nines is higher gen than Jack right and Jack is only 8th gen iirc?
>>737336339I just love the idea of autarkis beckett in this kind of setting and with just the right ammount of power. Not too powerful to brute force the status and not too weak to just be a "slipped/fallen through the camarilla cracks" situation. Just powerful enough to be in constant danger but surviving it.
>>737336350The werewolves you and Nines both killed were still werewolves after death, which means they're Metis. Deformed incest baby retards.And Nines still escaped fucked up, AFTER likely quaffing a whole werewolf's worth of frenzying blood to heal his wounds.Given previous scenes, he likely played smart with a grenade down the throat/in the belly, and still ended up fucking mauled for it.
>>737336454Ive only read the gehenna final nights one so i wouldnt know. But i really enjoyed beckett being high iq indiana jones in that one.
>>737337041Beckett's Jyhad Diary is his soapy handjob sendoff before V5.
>>737336023He's pretty good as far as official OCs are concerned. Could be insufferable if not for the fact he's dead wrong with all his Caine skepticism.
I think vampires are cool
>>737338001Writers back then knew what they were doing>Cool OC designs>This guy is such a chad, he's so cool, look at as fellate this dude, he's an expert>Straight up wrong or incorrect rather oftenHappens with a lot of Bloodlines NPCs
>>737339409Bloodlines yeah, though I'll be honest the tabletop had its fair share of stinker canon characters. Lots of wanking some OC elder who is written like an idiot but has 50 different schemes going on at the same time. And those guys are still leagues better than V5 canon characters, but what else is new?
https://3z83mrcb8vh.typeform.com/vampireApparently im a Tremere book nerd
>>737336023I grew up around too many amazing atheists *tips fedora* types to ever like him, but I can appreciate that he's consistently well-written as the exact vampire his creators wanted him to be. Him globe-trotting to kill the world's first transsexual is interesting.
My group is playing VtM tabletop on Friday, rate my Gangrel OC
>>737336339>Nines was kind of talking out of his ass in this scene (and all of his scenes) and I kind of respect him for being such a confident and based retard.Like many characters in WOD, he probably was misinformed Sure a werewolf is tough but that's probably because Nines has only heard stories and made to comparison to what elder vamps can do and how werewolves can tank that shitHe probably is more powerful than he realizes and this is his first time fighting one and just wasn't confidentThat or he was concerned about the fledgling getting killed
>>737341198>female gangrelStanky pussy
>>7373411987/10Does she have a valley girl voice?
>>737336350He used a grenade. It's not like he beat the werewolf in a fistfight
>>737270723Snowy city is kinda cool. Everything else is really meh.
>>737337027>>737341313The devs also stated that the woof Nines fights is a juvenile, which makes them underpowered within the setting. In other words, all of the stars aligned for Nines to have a chance at winning his fight, and even then he was still absolutely fucked up afterwards.Fun fact: The werewolf head is behind the locked door of the Luckee Star at all times, including when you just arrived in Hollywood. You can noclip through the door and see it on the bed at any point.
You know what would be impossible to make?A changling game because not even people who play changling know what it's aboutThe most you get is it's a game about making people happy and keeping that inner child alive
>>737341260Nah Southern accent, she's from a small town in Virginia
>>737270723I haven't even looked at anything related to it because I know it will just make me mad.
>>737296402Kill yourself. NOW.
>>737341548What's so difficult to understand about Changeling? The Technocracy allows humanity to land on the moon but accidentally causes Paradox because everyone watching the landing collectively believes anything is now possible so space elves return to Earth and start reincarnating into mortal bodies, living two parallel lives in the mundane and the magical which means every otherkin running The Dreaming are trying to go SICKO MODE by glamourbombing everything so the entire world engages in mass-schizophrenia because that's literally the only way to restore the childlike wonder of humanity back to the grown adults who don't have Peter Pan syndrome.What's so hard to understand??
>>737234894I ain't redownloading that shit. Played it last year and was softlocked from a bug after the museum.
>>737341928The hard part is making that a mechanic without getting oldMalk playthroughs are great but I wouldn't want a whole game like that
>>737341548>You know what would be impossible to make?yea
>>737341586based whereabouts?
>>737341548deviant the renegades would be impossible to get made rather than make
The bloodlines game is the only Vampire: The Masquerade stuff I've delved into but this thread makes me interested in learning more about the rest of the lore. Any good books to introduce me into learning the stuff? I never knew about the mages/changling stuff either but it sounds interesting.
>>737342639For Vampire? Chicago Chronicles 1-3, Cities of Darkness 1-3, Diablerie, War of Ages, the Giovanni Saga, and Rage Across the World Volume 2.
>>737340939>please not nosferatu, please not nosferatu >got malkavianeh, seems like the 2nd worst clan to live as, but ill take it
>>737342639Guide to the Camarilla, Guide to the Sabbat, and pick your favorite clan/s and work through the clanbooks. I personally prefer setting overviews rather than stories about individual characters, which can be rather hit or miss. Also, fair warning, liking bloodlines does not guarantee you'll like the rest of what you find. People gushing about something on a thread can give you a distorted idea of what it actually reads like. Which is not to say you will hate it, just tempering your expectations since I've known plenty of people that loved bloodlines but bounced off of the rest of the setting.
what are the odds that a malkavian bitch would bite my dick off mid fellatio?
>>737340939>>737342916
>>737340939Was one of my two picks. This or Toreador.
>>737342792>>737343091Thanks for the recs. I'm not too familiar with tabletop RPGs so it may be a dumb question but are these mainly books that describe the setting or are some of them self-contained stories that add to the overall world?> Also, fair warning, liking bloodlines does not guarantee you'll like the rest of what you find.That's what I usually see online. The game got me interested in the setting though so I figured I can read further and see if it also catches my interest.
>>737342639It uses nu-lore (V5), which is somewhat different from what Bloodlines uses, but I would actually recommend you pick up V:tM - Night Road. I enjoyed it quite a bit. There's a bunch of V:tM interactive novels, but iirc this is the only one that lets you create and play as your own OC Vamp.
>>737343384To add to that, I would honestly just start with the core rulebook for Vampire:the Masquerade and then branch out to different topic-specific sourcebooks. Look for revised edition, that's the most classic one that stuff from Bloodlines period was based on>are these mainly books that describe the setting or are some of them self-contained stories that add to the overall world?Generally in case of RPG sourcebooks it's usually the former, but WoD books often add short stories or long loredumps written in-character from a perspective of someone in-universe. In case of some of its gamelines almost everything is written like that
>>737340939I got Hecata when I did this last time. Truly, I am hopeless.>>737342639Clanbooks anon, all of them. They have some of the most schizophrenic bullshit ever written
>>737343384There's a variety of books. The core gives you a basic overview of the world but is more concerned with how to actually play it. Some books, like the aforementioned sect guides or clan books, cover an aspect of the setting in finer detail. Some cover the "canon" developing story, also known as metaplot, which is a series of events. Most have mechanics, but there are some out and out books written for the setting.
>>737342916>Schizo>>737343206>Bottom>>737343361>HoboThere are no chads in this thread>>737343384It depends what you liked Bloodlines for, in a lot of ways Bloodlines is kind of a superficial view of the setting wrapped in a near presentation with some very good atmosphere. If you want to play a game that's closer to what the actual tabletop experience/lore is probably like I can recommend either VtM:Redemption which is old as shit or you can pirate (probably shouldn't buy) Swansong which plays a lot like what you might expect out of the TTRPG.
>>737340939>nosferatufuck
>>737343384aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWdhLm56L2ZvbGRlci9ia01HVUJEYiNHMUs5WXRWZzhVLTdfcnBOWkVWQVVBHere you go Anon, use B64 on that and don't spread it around
>>737234894Werewolf bloodlines when?
>>737343725>calling the Toki clan "bottom"ishygddt
>>737343903>spoiler Is this the same Mega on /tg/ I never used or you have a custom one?
>>737343963Cancelled when Troika went under, along with another Werewolf RPG being built slightly beforehand. Ironically, they both seemed kind of decent from what little evidence is still left>>737343980A small jest, I like the Salubri but they're basically anywhere between permanent victims to insane martyrs
>>737340939I'm... a Brujah?
>>737249457I wish they did more with this girl and the whole idea.
>>737344086Actually to see if I remember this right>Werewolf RPG shortly after Redemption, cancelled>Bloodlines>Wolflines, cancelled>Hunter trilogy>Mage game, cancelled>changeling browser game(?)>MMO, dev hell and cancelled>werewolf game, nearly cancelled and repurposed into Earthblood>Bloodlines 2, dev hell and nearly cancelled>Wraith VR>Vamp VR>Night Road and a bunch of other text games>Bloodlines 2, terrible>Deathwish, publisher is going underThis IP is kind of cursed
>>737344086It's fine, I have an instinctual hatred for Tremere and that was before knowing enough fluff to learn who Salubri are, what Tremere did to Saulot, and that the Tremere in-setting are basically every caricature and stereotype of the Jews.
>>737344323>try telling this nerd-victim that the Tremere aren't so bad and that you're one of the good ones (Tremere)>He immediately flips his shit and starts trying to kill youI like quite a lot that sometimes dialogue tags in this game aren't the perfect solution like they are in most modern games. Bait options are great for replay value
>>737255207Why isn't it?Well atleast to a hunter, any werewolf who isn't some unstable reckless berserker is 9/10 times not gonna show up on their radarwell so long as they aren't some pentex ass puppetSame goes for mages, anyone who isn't some power tripping fuckwit using their powers to very unsubtely take advantage of people isn't going to catch their attention.Anyone either minding their own business or smart enought to be a cunt while unnoticed isn't going to to be attracting hunters, especially if it's an imbued
>>737256434I wish we could just like clone Tim Curry, his type of speech and voice are entirely extinct...
>>737344423I had thought Imbued just got sent to hunt whoever with no rhyme or reason? Like the puddles near your home can spell out that you should kill your neighbor who is a werewolf for absolutely no reason since he isn't actively doing anything
>>737248139you want some combat skills since half way you will have to do some boss fights. social skills are fun flavor, but you have one main questline that truly focuses on them. as long as you do the side quests you should be good
>>737344637Imbued are mind-thralls of the Scarlet Queen and Ebon Dragon from Kindred of the East, used by both to replace the Ten Thousand who keep dying trying to unfuck the world from the perspective of the Ministers of Creation. There is a rhyme and reason, and it's absolute bullshit because everything between Mages and Demons are absolutely befuddled that humans can so easily lose their free will and never Awaken without ever knowing what happened to themselves.
>>737345159dont forget that imbued are discount exalted and that the ebon dragon and his bros tentacle gang raped the queen and after she died she absorbed one of seven incarnations of death to supercharge her essence and decked herself out in all of the epic loot possible to eat the sun to turn all of her dead soldiers into undead exalted so she reverse raped ebon dragon and then took over heaven, hell, and the earth and basically made lilith look like a little bitch
>>737345159>>737345424Man, Imbued lore is nutty
>>737343206
>>737341493that's a big fucking desk lamp
>>737346261Whatever you do, do NOT think about the size of the doors in Bloodlines.
Don't want to mass reply but thanks for all the recs. Going to start with the core rulebook and a clan book or two, then branch out from there.
>>737336350>unscathedWut? Half his face is torn off and he tells you he's too injured to help you fight Ming/LaCroix. He barely survived.
ANARCHS ARE WUSSES
>>737347590I admit its been a while
I MISS SOURCE LIGHTINGI MISS SOURCE LIGHTINGI MISS SOURCE LIGHTINGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>737346261for you
>>737347863We all do, maybe when the Source 2.0 super mod engine comes out we can actually get it back
>>737347750:D
stop liking evil undead women
I just want a Mage game
>>737348414We have a Mage game, it's called The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind.
>>737348393Therese was much more sinister than Jeanette if you look past the surface.
>>737348393literally designed pixel by pixel to strangle me to near death mid cowgirl as I explode inside her (with skirt and shirt on)
>>737348848what color is your skirt?
>>737346403Why are they so tall?Oh no.
>>737349435Intentional Gothic architecture don't worry about it.
>>737340939>deliberately pick Gangrel options>wind up Nosferatuwut
>>737348468Malkavians will note that Jeanette is the "white daughter" while Therese is the "black daughter".
>>737349674The line between nossie and furry is pretty fuckin' thin
>>737349780No i realized my mistake, looking at my results I misclicked the fancy posh shithead option for bars and site security. Of course, yes Nosferatu.
>>737250704>when the DM is tired of you fucking around and not going to the quest area
>>737349953One thing I appreciate is that he dominates you twice, and when you reject him the third time, he just has you escorted out and you're the one who has to come crawling back apologizing if you want to continue the main quest.
>>737350013>dominates you to go to the sarcophagus since he doesn't think you'll know what diablerie is>dominates you to go to Grout so he can frame Nines>is fine with you just fucking off at that point since he never wanted you unalive anywayssubtle but good writing
I still find it funny that despite our usual reputation Salubri of all thing ended up being like the 3rd or 4th most populated clan when we took those online tests
>>737350069I like to think LaCroix started thinking after Grout that you're not worth the effort it would take and that he should just wait for your cooperation
After finally beating this game and seeing these threads over the years I realize they're just full of larpers pretending to be in character, because no one would play this shit again. What a boring unfinished pile of slop.
>>737350381
>>737340939>build chair with no vocal chords>kinda miss the screamingthis sucks
>>737348462not the same setting, I need my urban fantasy.
Reminder that the devs of VTMB were originally going to be the ones to make Fallout 3 but instead Bethesda got the IP instead.
>>737340939>HecataSo is this like the Cappadocians? It has been a while, aren't all the Cappadocians dead?
>>737341548A video game version of the Changeling card game Arcadia would work, although admittedly it is very different from normal Changeling since you're actually in the Dreaming the entire time.
I like Bloodlines 2.
>>737352336lol
>>737352336I think that turning Elif into Safia was a little bit of a problem because Elif being the traitor likely would have blindsided people due to her being a slutty Tremere. Safia is "off". She's too cute, too nice, too caring. She's literally Bellweather from Zootopia.
>>737351504Todd Howard is such a blight on the gaming industry
Any mods that add post-game content? I did my 3rd playthrough fairly recently and want to keep playing with the same character.
>>737351504Good. Fallout is a shit setting anyway
>>737344323They'd be the most Jewish were it not for Redemption having actual Jews using Kaballist magic and shiettt.
>>737235768I humbly request sauce or atleast the clip of the scene
>>737354996Great movie. Gemma was born to play a vampire.
>>737356640i kneel
In the end, how much of the game was based on a true story?
I never understood the concept "hub level" until this game.I was so confused that visiting the hotel or train station is an actual "dungeon quest".Also:>first play>look for class>tremere might be cool, magic and shit>try spells for few times but forget about them>turn the game into pure FPS for most of timeMy biggest regret was falling into asian chick trick and blabbing about Nines.At least I kept my mouth shut about Mercurio.
>>737359660Absolutely abhorrent, sounds like you had a good time, though.
>>737348393any bigger than 1.2 is just too much
>>737358846The Epstein files were a cover up for the Camarilla.
>>737344637After the imbuing it's kinda up to them. They can detect the supernatural, but opinions about how to engage them, what should be done about them, whether to use a one size fits all approach or judge every supernatural individually vary a lot between hunters. That's kinda the whole point of creeds.
>Become vampire>Turn a charismatic person into a ghoul>Have that ghoul create a loyal cult>Take over an abbandoned village or a crumbling neighborhood in the inner city>Have your cult renovate the shithole you took over>Disguise your cult as an HOA or something similar>Live a comfy life in your own little kingdom with as much blood as you needWhy wouldn't this work?
>>737360214Clan curse will compel you to do something stupid, vampire politics will catch up to you, and hunters will find you eventually otherwise vampires do basically what you just described a lot especially the setiteshttps://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Blood_Cult
>>737360214Cults don't usually work all that great in reality even without the vampire part. Maybe you can get some successful long term one but the risk of shit going wrong seems pretty high.
>>737303756>Fuckable monsterLiteral hunter / fake hunter litmus test
>>737360685>cults don't usually work all that great in reality even without the vampire partUtah is still a Mormon state to this day thoughbeit? Cults can be very successful and there's an entire clan in vtm that operates as a giant blood cult already
>>737361057Why did you use Mormons as an example of cultish behavior instead of Jews, Zionists, or Muslims?
>>737361117Maybe they're American and Utah is just the most religious state.
>>737361408>Maybe they're Americangross
>>737340939>Gangrel.Eh, I disagree but I see it. I could also see my city being a gangrel hotspot anyway. I also know exactly what choices specifically tipped it over to that, it's a bit transparent.Realistically it's either that or I put my nose into something a bit too fucked up and end up Tzimisce. Or Nosferatu, realistically everybody here would have a decent chance to end up Nosferatu.
>>737361451rude
>>737361578The Disciplines of the clan that I got perfectly match the kind of powers I wish I had IRL. Knowing that 4chan is full of furries (animalism), cuckolds (obfuscate), and retards (potence) makes me smile and know Nosferatu will survive the Schreknet collapse.
>>737352297It's the family reunion version of all the necromancers, mostly Giovanni though, but this time without the problematic incest that everyone didn't hate
>>737360214In VtM alone? It could work if some other retard vampire doesn't decide to screw you over (cult size doesn't matter, vampires are dick by nature)In WoD as a whole (lmao) it would be a bit more tricky since you'd have a lot of competiotion from vampires + other splats. And don't eve think about making it a big thing or magical Epstein and friends will come after you.
>>737362406>splatsany idea how this nickname came about?>And don't eve think about making it a big thing or magical Epstein and friends will come after you.Got a chuckle out of me, thanks
I installed whatever mods you're supposed to and started Tremere and and got to the hotel and then got drunk and passed out and that was 2019. I no longer even have the install.What do I need to do in order to continue?
>>737364824Download the game and download Unofficial Patch 11.5, then run the installer.
>>737340939>Banu HaqimHuh...
>>737366774saluum maleakum
>>737363602Its old usenet slanghttps://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/48658/origin-of-the-term-splat-book#:~:text=It%20came%20from%20the%20fans,become%20commonplace%E2%80%94and%20it%20did.The * was what they called VTM and other books in the series: *books with the * being called a splat so thus it was dubbed Splatbook.
>>737366774Assamites got rebranded to sound even more Muslim, but they're still autistic assassin lawbringer independents
It almost makes me want to live in LA.
>>737325616>>737326686Baali are also, pardon the pun, masquerading as other clans almost all the time.
>>737360214>>Have that ghoul create a loyal cultCongratulations, you just made a major Masquerade breach if its ever uncovered. As cults tend to be. Also the implication is vampires DO shit, stupid or otherwise, because eternity is boring if you have nothing to do.
>>737368702>imblying i care bout cammy lawsLUL
>>737325616Anywhere between what >>737326686and >>737368427 anons say, most Baali are not going to be up front about it until you start digging, which is hard to write, they're way too edgy for modern audiences, which is hard to write well, and they're pretty much disconnected from a lot of the core themes of WoD and VtM in favor of having an enemy faction of literal demon worshippers and insane schizophrenics, so they're even harder to incorporate. A Baali plot would be incredible, if you can get past the fact that you're actually going to be dealing with demon and umbra shit in a setting that largely ignores it
>>737368289Real life LA is similar to the one in vtmb, but instead of blood suckers you get cock suckers.
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