Why did Blizzard add the culling of stratholme? You're basically just being a paladin doing noble paladin stuff, and then suddenly there's a mission where you're basically playing Oskar Dirlewanger during the Warsaw uprising, and we're somehow supposed to sympathize with Arthas.
>Uther, they will turn into undead within 1 day. There is no known cure. We can kill them now or later. You choose.
>>737235970You weren't meant to sympathize with him.
>why you do questionable stuff>in story about paladin falls to darknessdo you have stupid
>>737235970>>737237857Dirlewanger never had a fall to darkness thoughalbeit
>>737236123>So long as they draw breath, I will not lay a finger on themt. Uther the retard, most likely
>>737236123>No Arthas! There must be another way... Ermmm, go attack Mal'Ganis's base! No, my knights will hold back to erm... protect your base!
>>737235970I mean we don't know if the villagers would become friendly undead like Sylvanas' Forsaken. Arthas killed them out of paranoia and self righteous justification
>>737238521>yeah dude we've only had bloodthirsty evil undead so far but maybe in the future they will magically become friendly>I mean "Friendly" as in still evil and they'll side with the horde against the humans but idk man just dont kill em ok
Uther most likely would've stayed if Arthas actually explained what was going on instead of acting like a server admin
>>737238381Rape of Warsaw:Oskar: Glad you could make it, Heinrich.Heinrich: Watch your tone with me, boy. You may be a SS-Oberführer, but I'm still your superior as a Reichsführer-SS.Oskar: As if I could forget. Listen, Heinrich, there's something about the poles you should know. Oh no. It's too late. These people have started rioting. Things may look fine now, but it's a matter of time before they turn into an uprising!Heinrich: What?Oskar: This entire city must be raped.
>>737238993It's funny because this actually happened
>>737237182Well they shouldn't have put him in a sympathetic predicament. Doubly so when a literal demon is outright saying he will kill everyone in the city to raise them as an undead army if he does nothing. It's a lose/lose situation, but one at least loses the least.
>>737235970>Arthas: I watch my tone with you, old man. I may be the prince, but you're still my superior as a paladin.>Uther: As if you could forget. Yes Arthas, there's something about the plague I should know. ...Oh no, it's already begun. These people may look fine now, but it's only a matter of time before they turn into the Undead!>A: What?!>U: This entire city must be purged.>A: How can I even consider that? There's got to be some other way.>U: Damn it, Arthas! As my future king, order me to purge this city!>A: I am not your king yet, old man. Nor should you obey that command even if I were.>U: Then you must consider this an act of treason.>A: Treason?! Have I lost my mind, Uther?>U: Have you? Prince Arthas, by right of succession and the sovereignty of your crown, you must hereby relieve me of my command, and suspend my paladins from service.>Jaina: Uther! He can't just-->U: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this land, follow him. The rest of you... get out of his sight.>A: I've just crossed a terrible threshold, Uther.>J: ...Arthas?>A: I'm sorry, Jaina. You can't watch me do this.tl;dr Uther's fault
>>737238521>friendly undead>like Sylvanas Forsaken>the bioweapon guys>the "death to the living" guys>the human cattle farm guys?????
Uther acted like the classic lawful stupid paladin archetype, Arthas acted like an actual person capable of rational thought. Therefore Uther was wrong, but had no choice because the rules force him to be a retard or lose his class features.
>>737238993>>737239041Dirlewagner did nothing wrong. Poles deserved it.
>>737238795This is the whole point.Rather than actually explain Arthas instantly goes to the nuclear option without having even discussed it with Jaina, with the only proof he has of the situation being the word of a now dead Necromancer.The entire point of Arthas is that he's not a bad guy but he's got a hero complex and underlying violent tendencies, making him antagonistic towards Uther from the get go and 100% okay with killing civilians "for the greater good". It's the entire reason he got corrupted.
>>737238521Ignoring the "Friendly" forsaken, there was no chance of the Stratholme infected becoming one of them. The scourge was still completely in the hands of Nerzhul and the Dread Lords. Nerzhul hadn't been crippled and still needed to play along, and the Dread Lords wouldn't allow for any unknown factors to interfere with Archimonde's arrival.
Why did you stop playing RTS, anons?
>>737239278>the human cattle farmIt's very obviously just a peaceful human plantation, calm down karen
>>737239584I'm not particularly good at it.The new Starcraft TMG got me to play the SC campaigns again though
Being undead would stink, arthas did them a favor
>OP>RetardedNothing new
>>737235970What if branching campaign where you could choose to side with uther and try to hold off arthas from killing villagers until dawn comes or whatever?
>>737235970>>737236123>Plot moves forward only because everyone acts retarded>>737239584I'm 35.I was a top 15-20 player in the W3AL about 17-18 years ago. I still play RTS but I'm not as fast as I was. Thankfully wc3 is a lower apm game but still
>>737238993>>737239415DIRLEGAAANGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSJXq7UnXS4
>>737239885>I'm 35.So you'd fit in perfectly.
I wanted to say that Arthas was retarded for choosing morally gray option, because objective good exists in Warcraft universe, but I decided to check what 'Light' is exactly, just to be sure. And what do I see?>The Light is the source of all life in the cosmos, but not necessarily "good">it is a primal force with its morality characterized by how it is wielded.I'm tired of fantasy that uses the aesthetic of objective good and evil and then rugpulls me with this neutrality shit. All my life I believed Arthas was wrong for abandoning Light or something, but in actuality his only mistake was sailing to Northrend and getting owned by Mal'ganis. Next thing I'm gonna learn is that Void is not an evil force actually, and it doesn't want to destroy the world and that it actually has some positive aspects if you give it a chance.I'm sorry Arthas I ever doubted you. Uther Lightbringer? More like Uther Yangbringer.
>>737240657That's new-age WoW shlock.Up until Shadowlands the Light was still objectively good, with the only detracting moment being a time when a Naaru tried to force Illidan into taking a shower to get the demon stank off him.Shadowlands tried to pull a "Erm, akshully all the cosmic powers can be Good OR Bad!" because FF14 was big at the time and had just hit it big with a "Light bad' expansion since their cosnology works differently.The writers bebind Shadowlands backed off a bit after backlash but are now back to their old shit again.
>>737239156Always funny to read
>>737239885At what age on average do your reflexes start to diminish? I'm 33 and don't feel any slower than when I was 15, except my game sense is shittier as I don't have more than a few hours a day free to play anything.
All because Jaina denied Arthas pussy...
>>737241521Brother we had a book where he specifically takes her virginity. It's one of the reasons she's such a basket case.
>>737241579>Brother we had a book where he specifically takes her virginity. It's one of the reasons she's such a basket case.Proofs?
>>737241401You don't need sub 200ms reflexes for RTS anyway. Lots of your speed becomes just from actually knowing what to do and what buttons to press for the optimal apm so you don't need to a bunch of redundant clicks.
>>737241786In the Arthas book they have a picnic in Lordaeron where they hook up and have sex.
>>737242850>In the Arthas book they have a picnic in Lordaeron where they hook up and have sex.I bet Antonidas and Uther watched
>>737239991nah, he'd fit in at 40
I never finished any of the warcraft story campaigns lel it was only good for multiplayer
>>737235970tfw you're Arthas and you see a sick child
>>737240657"erm light is actually LE BAD" is an extremely recent retcon from pretty much the worst era of WoW's writing (BFA to now), you can and should completely ignore it any time you see it mentioned on some shitty wiki.
>>737240657Mal'ganis didnt own him, he fucking stomped that faggot dreadlord
So what happened to all of the WC3 characters now? Never played WoW but I kept seeing Sylvanas being pushed to the moon.
>>737240757Arator the 50 year old angsty teen
>>737239415This but the red army. Best lay those women ever had.
>>737248615>ThrallStuck in plot limbo ever since his wife got introduced. >ArthasDead. Like, very dead.>SylvanesStuck in mega hell. >Kel'ThuzadVery deceased and also turned out to be loyal not to Arthas but Not Satan. >JainaStuck in plot limbo but at least she wasn't killed off like they obviously considered doing. >IllidanBecame Sargeras prison warden.>Tyrande and MalfurionGot a new homeland after being the horde's punching bag for almost twenty years.>Illidan's poseAll dead. At least they are happy in the afterlife. >Burning LegionDefunct. All leaders are dead or imprisoned. >Anub'arakDied twice.
>>737249876>PeonsStill lazy
>>737249536All women deserve rape.
>>737250206All women deserve rape.Ayran women need rape.
>>737250206>>737250315good morning sirs
>>737249876That's not bad at all considering
>>737247073>forced to resort to using soul stealing sword>ez gg lol
>>737250206sanest incel
>>737251807Thank you
>>737238993It's funny how this cuts off the rest of the conversation because Himmler wouldn't even object to the shit Dirlewagner bridage did in Warsaw lmao.
>>737252313>later mission where you have to kill the Silver Hand Paladins + Uther to get the urn>Now it's Wehrmacht officers telling Oskar that he's a piece of shit who brought shame on the Reich.
>>737252212wasn't a compliment. you don't look like your little soijak doll IRL btw
>>737235970You aren't supposed to sympathize with Arthas. Even if it was always 100% true that the people of stratholme would turn into undead, it is more humane to kill them when they're already dead instead of depriving them of the few hours they have left. He made a stupid choice that benefitted no one
>>737241401>on average do your reflexes start to diminish?On average doesn't mean anything, because most people are not using their reflexes nowadays.Use it or lose it. Your reflexes are trained more than anything.
>>737238521your brain on Blizzium, no wonder Blizzard still exists with negative IQ retards like you gobbling up their crap
>>737252835True, I look like Ramsay Bolton irl.
>>737253074holy reddit cringe
>>737252931It IS a big line to cross to murder your own people - including ones that might not be infected yet (even if the city 100% had the plague in it). The big thing is that Arthas sperged out at Uther and Jaina was texting on her phone then fucking abandoned him to shoulder a terrible fucking deed.
>>737252931Arthas was always kind of an idiot.
>>737252931>It is more humane to let them turn into a foul abominations which will rip and tear citizens who still haven't turned before setting out to destroy the kingdomWhat a gigantic faggot you are, letting a human be twisted into a monster because you are more 'moral'. Not to mention how much harder it would be to deal with them if they all turn, risking the lives of your men just so you can sleep better at night.
>>737252931Malganis was taking the undeaddo people forget the Culling was a race against Malganis?
>>737253428"Your men" are all soldiers and not civilians, they signed up to be killed, not little timmy who comitted the unspeakable deed of eating tainted bread
>>737252947I should start playing FPS games again. I used to do an autistic ducking motion when playing CS 1.6 and playing vs someone with an AWP.Every time they'd shoot, I would duck irl.Gotta train those reflexes again.
>>737253501Little Timmy is hours away from ripping his mother's stomach open and feasting on his father's arm. Fucking nigger, those few hours of humanity would end in more terror for the infected than just having the kingdom's men skewering them with a sword.
>>737252776The other SS and especially wermacht forces despised Dirlewagner. It is a small miracle that he survived the war at all and only was killed in the aftermath of it.
>>737239278>>737239605Though I agree forsaken are insanely evil, the human farm wasn’t in anyone’s orders and was just the making of a deranged scientist.You even can read that one of Sylvanas’ dudes got dragged away when he found out what was going on and that she would have his head for it
>Oh noz muh six million Stratholme residents totally innocentIt never Happened.They deserved It.
>OH NO ARTHAS DON'T DO IT NOOOO>Uther and Jaina just fucking leave
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I HAD TO KILL EVERYONE TO SAVE THE KINGDOM I WENT ON TO DESTROY ANYWAYS BY CORRUPTING MY SOUL FROM BEING SO COMPLETELY DRIVEN BY MY PRIDE
>>737254386>hindsight is 2020wouldn't have happened if jaina and uther wouldn't have abandoned him when they were most needed. also learn to reply you petty faggot
The ONLY thing Arthas did wrong was chase Mal'Ganis to Northrend and betray the mercenaries that fought for him.The latter was the true tipping point.
>>737254919I dunno. Killing his dad is pretty evil
>>737255127he was already gone by then
>>737252931That's no different from the retards in zombie apocalypse movies that refuse to kill bitten survivors, which inevitably leads to the entire base/camp getting zombified.
>>737256085if you were fucking Arthas in a zombie survival movie yes I'd think you're more than capable of fighting a few zombies
>>737255787nah he could still resist the lich king if he wanted to
>>737258743true he was just lazy n shiet. I was the skull shoulderpad. saw the whole thing
>>737253681You're arguing with a liberalt, his conception of the morally correct thing to do is what makes him the least uncomfortable.
>>737235970Because it is obvious that Arthas became infected in the previous mission but they cut off the lines before that.Notice how his behavior went full on desperate to find a cure, and mal ganis became the scapegoat.He wasn't even feeling cold or remorse by the time he reached northrend, he was already losing to the plague and the light was slowing the infection, when he got to northrend and the lich king began whispering in his head, it was over.
>>737260756Paladins cannot get infected.
>>737260848Paladins are resistant, but not immune, Arthas was special case for the Lich King had him in mind in first place.Also, Many DK's of the third war are paladins who lost faith and saw corruption after the second war and joined Kel'thuzard in northtrend to serve the lich king.Uther, Mograine and Fordring may had been immune as the original 6 due to Faol's blessing, but Arthas and the rest wasn't.And the second needed a ton of magic just to raise him as a Death Knight
>>737241954thisthere's even an AoE 2 player named John Slow that has way lower APM than pretty much every other top player, but he's still a top level player.
>>737261221Paladins canonically are immune to the plague of Undeath in Warcraft 3. If a paladin becomes fallen or corrupted or undead it is because he had been either slain and raised, or had his souls leeched from him first. Not converted to undeath by the use of the plague, like most others affected by it are. Where the fuck do you people come from that know nothing about anything but argue with it until you turn blue in the face ,using fucking WoWfaggot lore to reinforce your arguments? Fordring? Mograine? They don't fucking exist.>Though the Paladins were immune to disease of any kind, they were persecuted by the general populace who believed that they had been infected by the foul plague. A small band of Paladins, embittered by society's cruelty, traveled north to find the plague's source. These renegade Paladins succumbed to bitter hatred over the course of their grueling quest. When they finally reached Ner'zhul's icy fortress in Northrend they had become dark and brooding. The Lich King offered them untold power in exchange for their services and loyalty. The weary, vengeful warriors accepted his dark pact, and although they retained their humanity, their twisted souls were bound to his evil will for all time. Bestowed with black, vampiric Runeblades and shadowy steeds, Death Knights serve as the Scourge's mightiest generals.
>>737235970Say the word.
>>737235970I WANNA RAPE A NIGHT ELF
>>737235970>when you fail your media literacy testArthus was evil from the get go
>>737239946
>>737261592>Arthas never conceeded to Jaina, went to Kalimdor while ignoring Stratholme and had sex with the natives:(
>>737261569N
>>737241954Thats juts in non bliss shit RTS (AKA the ones people dont emulate)
>>737253735>miracleHe ascended to Godhood. He is the Aryan God of Vengeance.
Something that doesn't get talked about ever in these threads are custom campaigns.I have been getting a bit into them lately and honestly the gameplay in some are pretty decent. However, he story and writing is usually so so so bad. I have yet to encounter a good story. The one I have been playing recently got so cringe I had to stop.
>>737262434didnt reforged ruin those?
>>737263142a lot of the old ones sure but they are still being made, in fact there is one specifically for reforged only that is supposedly godly.
I used To think Arthas did nothing wrong but after some fags decided to give deadly dose of drugs to elderly because "the coof will certainly kill them and they are taking away available space in hospital" I changed my mind. Uther was right.
>>737262123What RTS has slower time to kill than wc3?.. You can alsos top producing any economy after 2 mins.
>>737261681AGA
>>737269670Stormgate.
>>737235970I have a Dirlewanger Brigade uniform. What do you think of it?Also, Arthas did nothing wrong.
>>737271560Where did you get it?
>>737271815I commissioned a Dutch woman to make the tunic for me. The rest I just bought online from various sources as-is.
>>737272697Based and larp pilled
>>737273404In regards to LARP, I specifically chose the Dirlewangers because I'm East Asian and the Dirlewangers were the only SS formation with any (Central) Asians.
>>737239584He said it best. It's not fun going back after a break and getting demolished by nobodies on the ladder.
