Why did this series fail and die? What went wrong?So I played Valkyria Chronicles 4. The first game was my entry into Japanese SRPGs, my favorite genre now in the current slop RPG era and the dead field of strategy gamesGame 4... The Japanese don't learn from their mistakes, I haven't seen a game with such obviously stupid decisions in such a large number in a long time- The ranking system is stupid. I closed all the maps on A. After I realized that the rank depends only on the speed of completion, I started rushing everything to get more experience and currency and this killed all strategic interest in the game- Once again, only two of the plot characters died, instead of the story completely going into military drama and hopelessness, they hand out a plot anime armor to almost everyone- The player can move one unit ten times, while the enemy can only move bosses twice per turn, there should have been an obvious limit on the number of actions per unit per turn.- The game ignored the most interesting potential drama and dilemma in the plot: Minerva's discovery that Leena was an enemy spy and that her squad and all her friends died because of the treason. I don't understand how they didn't even try to play out this story
>>737244695Because it was a bad series; the perfect example of style above substance.
>>737244695For me its Rosie
>>737244817This is the dumbest SRPG I played so far, but kinda unique though >>737244875I like these broken dolls more now
>>737245458i wish the doll on the left was left alive
>>737244695Explosive wives...
>>737245876Black characters are always killed first, it's a canon across all genres.
Nuclear wives
>>737244695>What went wrong?2 and 3 were psp only games while 4 went backwards from 3.They also hired trannylators that butchered 4's script.
>>737245965>The good guys>Turning little girls into mobile atomic bombs>Unironically blow up children
I got a feeling Sega is going to revive this series again in the near future with another console release
The mission design is often really dumb. I remember mission 9 of VC4 where the ice witch is shooting at you. There is alot of enemies, but the goal is to just capture the objective. I just loaded the APC up, then got as close as possible to just have people exit, eliminate the few people inside the enemy HQ, then captured it. A bit of RNG required on how enemies moved but you could ignore like 90% of the map+enemies.Its the consistent poor objectives which makes cheesing the best choice, plus not much innovation between VC1 to 4. Why can't we have interiors, breaking into houses, shooting out of 2nd story windows? Or atleast mild destruction
>>737246315Since this is a JRPG, a number in the title means nothing>They also hired trannylators that butchered 4's scriptThe dub is awful anyway
>>737244695>>737245458>>737246287Absolutely made for justified war criminal rape sex as recompense. Also yeah reasonable thoughts on the game OP, I agree, yada yada. It really isn't great to incentivize speeding through the game but I get why they did it. Idk, the whole conept seems like it can't be expanded on. It's fun working through a battlefield like a puzzle game but also very tedious. Id just toss it and start a different system more about simultaneous rounds.
>>737244695>first game achieve a cult status by being one of few decent PS3 titles around launch year>game bombs because no one buys PS3s and therefore no one can play the game>put its next two sequels on the PSP, an inferior piece of hardware and effectively gimp most of the systems that made the first game pretty good>PSP is a dead system outside of Japan so don't even localize the third game>port VC1 to PC at a solid price point>suddenly it becomes a smash hit>make another sequel from its success>full price, no one buys it, bombs>series diesThis isn't unique to Valkyria Chronicles in particular but a lot of Japanese IPs suffer the same fate.
>>737244695Moving the same character twice should incur heavy penalties like not being able to shoot again or extra action points.It was worse in the first game though, they toned down scouts movement speed or increased shocktrooper, I don't remember wich, in 4
>>737244817That's not entirely true, it has the potential for substance, you wouldn't even need to completely reivent the mechanics or engine, just changing some numbers, better level design and challenge design would improve the game tenfold, the potential is clear which makes it more sad.
>>7372446951 was great2 was a meme but not the worst idea ever3 was the worst idea everrevolution was an extremely bad joke4 missed the point completely but sold well because people are mentally retarded, but then sega decided not to make more, probably because they recognize the series will never be good like 1 again
>>737246513To be fair they did a good job of diversifying the missions, all the maps are different, they are kinda interesting, but the fact that you need to complete them as quickly as possible to get a high rank kills the entire game design, as a result, in most cases, you just transport three soldiers behind enemy lines in a car in a couple of turns and that's it.I agree about destructibility and ineractivity, this would show the development of this games for sure.
>>737244875>navel windowsex
>>7372446954 was very clearly made by devs that didn't play the previous games. 2 and 3 fixed most of 1's problems only for 4 to bring them right back.
>>737246513>>737247063Lack of time/resources to properly playtest and develop the missions I wonder?
You just have to larp and self-impose challenges, like not upgrading, not using cheese tactics and it can be fun.
The game would have been massively improved by imposing the same ranking system as Advance Wars, where speed enemy kill count and reduce ally losses are all factored into your score. Just up the speed par up a couple more turns.Make the tank an actual wrecking force and important to use in every level rather have it parked at base while you scout rush everything.Gut the effectiveness of orders.Give snipers interception fire but at a smaller vision cone than scouts and shocktroopersI liked a lot of the new classes from VC2 and wanted them in a real game like VC1 and VC4.
>>737247650100%, but this should be by design.
>>737244695A hit new IP landed in Sega’s lap, and rather than cultivate it into a AAA franchise, they immediately downscaled and milked it. We could have had a TRPG in this franchise, an FPS, a vehicular action game, etc. Sega is the worst-managed company in gaming that still exists.
>>737246328there are no good guys in VC setting, they also tried to kidnap princess in VC1, backstabbing their supposed allies.However I do really liked that there is no UK in VC setting, only Kingdom of Edinburgh. Much superior option to current UK mess.
I play them for the Raita artstyle
>>737246328True, that is evil.They should turn sexy women into mobile atomic bombs instead.
>>7372470593 and 4 are good.
>>737247059>>7372493012 and 3 are too restricted by the limited hardware to be any good
>cool not-WW2 setting>magic weapons>magic raceI guess if I just wanted WW2 I could play a million other games but Valkyria is comfy until it does the usual retarded anime shit
>>737249910The anime stuff is what makes it stand out
>>737245458These brats look like something Nanashi would design.
>>737247787The tank is probably the hardest thing in this game to balance. In the endgame 2 have you a light tank destroyer, only used 1 AP and one shots pretty much everything since the main gun was accurate enough to pop heads across the small maps. The meta just became giving the tank 5-6 turns to clean house and then running over a scout to take camps. But, yeah, overall the problems in the game all feed back to the central problem of speed being the only factor, and in 1, 2, and 4 that timer is tight. Three is at least lax enough and has good enough map design that you don't feel encouraged to cheese it.
>>737250075hownew.ruRaita does the character designs for VC
>>737250291I know. They just remind me of Nanashi's style. The faces at least.
They could fixed everything but choose not to. Retards.
>>737249170Kek, stupid ice hag
