Since everyone nitpicks the fuck out of the remake for minor things, let's nitpick the fuck out of the original to balance things out. I'll start: the thunder sound effects are too stock and cheap sounding.
Fpbp
sS
No. /thread
>>737248673Frag grenades are super OP and you can abuse the fuck out of iframes.
Too many "hit the QTE or die" sectionsPathetically easy, enemies run up to you to engage in borderline turn based combat.Ashley is annoying as fuckThe entire truck section of the Island.The tone of the game is inconsistent as fuck.The lighting is often flat as fuck for a horror game.Many of the "beloved" lines from the game are a result of localization.Shotguns fucking worthless outside borderline point black range.That's everything I dislike about the original. Unless I'm forgetting stuff.The most hated thing for me from the original is the amount of QTE you have to hit to avoid deaths. People lost their fucking minds over 5 and 6 QTEs but somehow this old criticism of 4, which was abundant as fuck, has fallen to the side.RE4remake is a massively superior version of the game, with only improvements, and almost every added section in Remake is better than omitted sections from Original. The only bad part of 4remake imo is the mine cart section. I've played like 100+ playthroughs of the original RE4 from Gamecube, Wii, PS4, 2014Steam, and VR. I first played it my senior year of highschool in 2005. I don't respect your opinion on this game if your first ever time playing it was after it's 2nd Steam release in 2014
>>737248673KYS
>>737249209tpbp
sliding puzzle in Ashley section is too hard for me
>>737248673it's flawlessslash thread
crowbcat really did a number on you guys huh
it has less bugs than the remake, oh wait are we supposed to say its bad? sorry cannot since its good and the demake is shit
nothing you say about the OG will make the remake look any betterthey are supposed to fix all the problems with the remake instead of cutting content, dumbing shit down and turning it into a generic mess
RE3.5 was going to be a better game than both the remake and OG
>>737253647I didn't know people like you still existed.
>>737248673The original experience is a sharper game with more precise mechanics and an inspired design that is truly one of a kindThe remake experience is a slower game with sludged up, cluttered mechanics and a copied design that is just like other remakes
>>737253918I'm sure there are still people out there who think 1.5 would be better than RE2.
>>737248673well that'd be way too easyliterally half of the game is shit and the island is putrid hot diarrhea dog shit, remake fixes those shit areas
>>737248673It is so good because there is so little to actually criticise about it.
half the arsenal is borderline uselessthere is no difficulty curb to speak of, it goes all over the place from the first to last stage leon's retarded UUUUUHHRHUUUWHUUUU death sound enemy AI aged like milk that being said it's in the top 5 greatest games ever made for sure
>>737248723fippy>>737249075sippy>>7372492093ippy
>>737248673yellow paint and unresponsive controls are not nitpicks
>>737264187>unresponsive controlsStop blaming the game for your skill issues.>criticizing the controls of any game when speaking of RE4 (2005)kek
I just replayed both after finishing Requiem recently and they're both really good. Not enjoying both is like being one of those faggots who likes Jackson King Kong but hates the original because it's black and white and uses stop motion.
>>737260221>curb
>>737250090>I've played like 100+ playthroughs of the original RE4 from GamecubeTake this bait to 10+, 100 just makes you look like an obsessed sperg and no one will care or reply
>>737248673farmers without guns shouldnt give you ammo when they die
>>737260221this game is just gorgeous
It the guns, they absolutely make this game, I need more games with guns.
>>737256119the original ashley was a girl next door jailbait, perfect for the character, this one looks like a russian whore, it's out of place for a president's daughter
I love both but 4 is not perfect.- Way too many QTE’s with insta-death- Enemies are way too passive- Enemies get staggered way too easily- Ammo economy is way too limited for rifles and TMP- IT + Krauser are a resource slog on higher difficulties- Assignment Ada is meh- Separate ways weapon balance is awful
>>737248673Zoomers are gay and dumb
>>737248673>let's nitpick the fuck out of the originalOkay.It's not a good horror game. It has QTEs up the ass. The guns feel like shit.
>>737266314100 playthroughs of the game over 21 years really isn't much. Resident Evil has been my favorite series since 1997 when I played RE1.There's people who play it way more than I do.
the way ashley gets separated from leon in the castle is mind-bogglingly retarded
it's not the RE4 they promised.I will NEVER not be mad about it.
>>737267530>It's not a good horror gameIt's not a horror game, it's horror themed
>>737267794>become the 7th Entry in the series to play almost exactly like the 6 previous releases.>become one of the biggest and most important video games of all timeyea, Capcom made the right decision to not go with the "hookman" version
>>737267372>the first generation dubbed dumber than the lastI mean, isn't gen z like, 50% white?
>>737267628Yea seriously, tone it down. You only got me to reply
>>737268258Nah.I've played through RE4og approx 100 times I have 182 hours on Remake. mostly within the first year
Do you use the TMP?
>>737268449I use your mom.
>>737248673OGRE4 >>>>>>> RE4Rnow that this got establishedSTEAM VERSION>No achievement for unlocking the handcannon/getting all stars in Mercenaries mode.>Various little bugs like the QTE timing glitch (and other 60 fps glitches), no background when picking up items, blurry rendering error etc.>Seperate Ways cutscenes are all low quality pre-renders instead of being in-engine.BALANCE>Mine Thrower>Killer7 is kinda useless and is unlocked way too late. It should be unlocked at least before the Salazar fight.>You always sell your weapons for half price, that's alright. But all the upgrades to the weapons are also sold for half price. The remake makes the upgrades sell at 90% with regular weapon cost still at half price. This encourages changing and upgrading weapons more.CONTENT>Yellow herbs have no use other than for selling G+R+Y herbs after you max out your health.>Chicago Typewriter and the Handcannon could be more integrated into the game instead of being just one of the four OP weapons.>Only two costumes. And the Special 2 mafia costume doesn't show up in cutscenes.>Unlockable content comes from beating the game, beating the game at pro, completing Seperate Ways (or Assignment Ada in GC) and getting all stars in Mercenaries. It would be nice if replaying the game more times would unlock something. Similar to the RE3 epilogues for example.>Shooting range could have more seperate weapon types. You always just use the handgun and TMP and nothing else.
>>737248673>thunder sounds like thunder
>>737269354OGRE4 should have had an Arrange mode with all the key items and treasures mixed up, and more challenging enemy placements.
>>737250090>Pathetically easy, enemies run up to you to engage in borderline turn based combat.People really don't talk about this enough. I effortlessly cleared out dyanamite valley on professional using only my knife without dying. I'm pretty sure my only deaths on professional were to Krauser's QTE's. I also ended the game with 40 magnum bullets. On the flipside I think RE4R's professional difficulty is the best in the series. It isn't too hard to be utter horseshit on NG like RE5 pro, while also still posing a significant challenge.
>>737248673It had a tremendously shitty PC port
>>737248673The OG no joke has the same difficulty as a leapfrog game.
>>737267031True. OG Ashley looked like a homely college girl. The new one looks like some onlyfans whore, which she is. And personality wise she went from annoying but lovely to being just annoying.>>737253647>>737267794I wish that the 3.5 fixed camera game would be reused to be another game alongside what became RE4 because it looked really promising. But it's still a great turn of events that we got what we got. The dev cycles between RE2 and RE4 were a bit of a clusterfuck. We could've gotten some trashy games or even nothing but instead we got RE3, REmake, RE4, DMC, Haunting Ground.
>>737269801Alright now you're just being dramatic
remake is a better game
>>737269354> only two costumesthis has never been a real complaint in any video game.
>>737248673headshots are too strong, there is basically no risk to farming headshot kicks all gamebasically used the same crow sound effect since the PS1 gamesammo upgrades refilling your gun is too strong, especially on weapons like the TMP and Strikermine launcherQTEs suck assDel Lago sucks, Salazar sucksgame gets worse around the ass end of the castle and never reaches the highs of the village/early castle againstill love the game but those are my gripes
My only real (minor) complaint about RE4 is the inability to quickselect items, so you're constantly pausing and going into the menu to use items, weapons, etc. Like if you want to throw a grenade, you pause, equip grenade, unpause, use it, pause again, reselect your main weapon, unpause again. Maybe one of the reasons why I rarely used them except for clutch situations, mostly just hanging on to them to sell to the merchant.
ashley was too cute in the original, it was distracting.
>>737248673the spaniard ganados speak latam spanish
>>737269354>>737270021I don't think I've ever used the mine launcher in any of my playthroughs. What's up with it?
>>737248673The controls are unacceptably bad for their time and easily the worst thing about the game. This shit came out the same year as like 7 other vastly superior third person shooter control schemes. Making something bad on purpose is not clever, talented, or good game design so don't even pull that "it's how they keep things scary" bullshit.It's a great game but it's one of the most overrated ever to exist solely based on the total dogshit controls that never get comfortable because humans are not physically incapable of stepping sideways.
>>737270271its simply too overpowered
>>737248673This game on the Wii was flawless.
>>737270470Aiming with the Wiimote made the game super baby easy, but god damn it was fun. Loved the sound effects that would come out of the controller.
>>737248673>nitpicksWhat part of worse story is a nitpick? Krauser ess made lame and gay and he is no longer affliated eith Wesker, the only reason he knew how to find Saddler terrorist cell. Also none of the higher las plagas lost their free will ehich they made retconned by making saddler and salazar "belivers"
>>737270532>>737270470It’s weird to think how much better motion controls are for third person shooters over first person shooters. I wish the switch version had the motion controls
>>737270132t. chinese
>>737248673the castle is literally the same map from devil may cry 1 or 2 i dont remembber those fucking games but yes it was always just asset flip
>>737270890>capcom used assets from their other IPsYa, the sky is blue, water is wet, fire is hot.
>>737269606>I effortlessly cleared out dyanamite valley on professional using only my knife without dying>Therefore the game is too easyYou have zero self awareness. RE4 is unanimously considered the hardest game in the series and the fact you find knife-only runs easy is proof you have severe autism.
>>737271054>RE4 is unanimously considered the hardest game in the seriesNo it is not.Not even close.Anyone being honest knows RE5 was immediately harder than 4.0, 1Remake, Outbreak file 1 & 2, 5, 7, 8, and 9.4 is among the EASIEST RE games.
>>737267372A lot of those are my generation's fault. What did you think the natural conclusion of raising a generation on SJW anti-sex-appeal bullshit would be?Endless "I was literally raped in GTA" propaganda during their most impressionable years, and they grew up retarded? NO WAY.
>>737271054>RE4 is unanimously considered the hardest game in the series KEK! KYS you stupid nigger.
>>737270004>Regular costume, one alternate one and one gimmick one with Ashley being invincible but going CLANK CLANK CLANKCome on. RE1 had two and that was the first game. RE3 had like 8 or something. With how much you can replay RE4, it's a waste to have this little.
>>737248673No positional audio. Mono sounds for some effects, like ganado footsteps. It does make the game more stressful tho, since you don't know were they're coming from
>>737271475>No positional audio. Mono sounds for some effects, like ganado footsteps. It does make the game more stressful tho, since you don't know were they're coming fromIt had better audio in the original GameCube/Wii version
>>737271229I think it's particulary funny when a parent-aged generation complains the kids lack certain skills. Like, whose fault do you think that is? Oh, zoomers don't understand file systems? Of course not, you just parked them with a tablet instead of teaching them.
>>737269497how would that even work? the game is so linear that all the key items just unlock the only new area you can go to
>>737248673The story is retarded and Krauser dreams of rebuilding Umbrella "because the world needs order" when it's a fucking pharmaceutical company. Also the villain is never given a backstory or compelling motivations and just acts like a retarded heel. Also it's the game where RE jumped the shark (maybe CV), with a backwater Spanish village building a giant stone mech of Salazar. Oh and the Los Illuminados can purchase lazer defenses and a military combat ship but not a helicopter, and they somehow went under the radar in international politics.
>>737271513That's what I'm reading now. I started to search if some mods had fixed the PC version, and it turns out it wasn't an issue in the original version. Still, I don't know if I would play it without the beautiful HD mod.
>>737271657>when it's a fucking pharmaceutical companyHave you ever played a single RE game?Umbrella is not just some pharmaceutical company and never was
>>737250090>The only bad part of 4remake imo is the mine cart section.The lake boss and the Mike section still suck.
>>737271054Izzat post
>>737268058>most important video games of all timeYeah, most important in dooming it.
>>737271738Okay, educate me. What was it?
RE4 is overrated honestly, yeah it's a very fun shooter but did resident evil really needed to become a 3rd person shooter?Like, REALLY????
>>737248673you can immediately tell that you've killed the last aggro'd enemy by the fact that the combat music stops that exact second. maybe keep it playing for a few more seconds and slowly fade it out or something
>>737272101probably given how each game was more action orientated than the last one. It was a gradual buildup, the obvious conclusion being 4's OTS camera and melee rewards for headshots/legshots.
>>737271995Umbrella is more of a zaibatsu. They're most famous for pharma, but they have subsidiaries for just about anything. You know, like how Mitsubishi makes tanks.
>>737260221>leon's retarded UUUUUHHRHUUUWHUUUU death soundyou're retarded. that's soul
>>737271857I like the Mike sections in both.Del Lago is neutral to me.>>737271995It was founded as a front for Spencer's research and they dipped their hands into every industry imaginable.Umbrella Pharmaceuticals was one small section of the corp
>>737272101>but did resident evil really needed to become a 3rd person shoRE Zero proved that a fixed camera angle is not enough to carry a game.
Luis is a pathetic non-character that people only like because of his BALLISTICS and THE BIG CHEESE meme lines, he's done much better in the remake.Ashley is also extremely annoying and done better in the remake.
>>737250090>The entire truck section of the Island.You mean the part where ashley drives and you shoot on the truck bed? That part was only like 2 minutes long, and it was actually kind of cool
>>737272281>That part was only like 2 minutes longIt's annoying long for how bad it is.
The tank controls suck. The remake feels better even with the added inertia.
>>737271660Every time RE4 gets a port, something new is brokenGC –> Wii — Lower polygon count inventory items from PS2 portGC –> Wii –> Xbox 360 — Broken and missing effects, bad mapping conversion for ALL the models of the game, missing sound reverb effect.GC –> Wii –> Xbox 360 –> UHD — Animation and sound issues, black pickup screen, bad optimization with lots of performance issues in some computersThe PS4 version is just copy-paste of the “HD textures option” from PC Ultimate HD. Only a few extra character textures were improved for PS4/Xone.Also some enemies behavior issues if I’m not mistaken. But I’m not sure in which port…Still aside of resolution the GC/Wii and UHD with HD Project are the best versions. It has the best color palette and lightning and have bloom to the fire effects.Resident Evil 4 HD Project removes terrible looking PS2 version assets.https://www.re4hd.com/?p=5281>WEAPONS and other item MODELS: The models used for all post-Gamecube versions have less polygons than the original Gamecube version. It seems they kept (perhaps by accident?) the low-poly versions from the PS2 port of the game. I restored and even improved all of these models. There is a limitation with these models that crashes the game if the file size of certain files are larger than the original, but I found that there is some dispensable data that can be removed from the .bin files (the 3D models), and even entire .bin files that are unused in-gameRE4 GC/Wii had Dolby ProLogic II for audio positioning, while many sound effects clearly being mono in the ports. Sometimes it looks like the enemies are really close because of the volume of their steps, It's a bit messed up in the ports.In the GC and Wii version the game has echo/reverb in some areas
>>737266314I'm 34 this year. I can't believe you find it impressive someone would have played Re4 on the millions of different releases over 100 times. I myself have definitely done it at least 50 times. Every time it would release I would buy it and beat it again and I have probably beaten it every six months since I was a kid when it released. You're an idiot
>>737250090>Many of the "beloved" lines from the game are a result of localization.This doesn't make the lines bad you fuck.
>>737272451>pro-localization
>>737272583Its the only redeeming thing about this boring game.
>>737272451>>737272583Mikami helped translate RE4https://annacairistiona.wordpress.com/2025/11/19/did-resident-evil-4s-english-translation-really-butcher-leons-character/
>>737272654>Mikami helped translate RE4Then he did a shit job.There's tons of lines that they completely rewrote.
>>737248673Is there actually any argument for Remake, a game made 20 years after the original, even offering anything that the classic didn't? Beside knifeparry slop?
>>737273303Are you unfamiliar with the concept of a remake? It's supposed to be mostly the same game, just made to modern standards.
>>737272834>There's tons of lines that they completely rewrote.>I could cry. -> (About policemen) Geez, who are these guys?>I could cry. -> (Informed evac got shot down) Great.>I could cry. -> Women...>I could cry. -> (About the jetski key) Very cute.>I could cry. -> Story of my life...Good riddance.
>>737273392"modern standards" here meaning worse standards btw
>>737273480Yes, yes, everything was better back in the days when you were young. We got it, it's a little different now so it sucks.
>>737272179>>737272203That's fair, but I think my point still stands. So, at the end of CV it's implied Umbrella is still going strong (Chris says that "this isn't over until Umbrella falls", something that would be dumb to say about a company about to collapse) but it's RE4's opening cutscene that establishes that Umbrella fell after the Raccoon City incident when America (and other countries presumably) launched investigations into them and their stock value collapsed. Now, Krauser looked at this situation (as an American soldier) and said, "wow! America is a bunch of pussies! Umbrella is the strongman here!" and betrayed his home country to ressurect Umbrella. He felt that the only thing that could bring order to the world was a gigantic mega corporation. Not any nation, philosophy, religion, or even another mega corporation. Just Umbrella. It drives me nuts, too, because Krauser is 99% a great character, it's just that one short line that pushes things into retard territory. >reddit spaceAlso I don't want my frustrations at RE4's story to me misinterpreted as defending the remake in any way. I refused to even play the remake, and what little I've heard makes me glad I made that decision. Also I hear Umbrella Chronicles 2 helps establish Krauser's character.
>>737272654This article is so disingenuous it's amazing. The author is spot on whenever she claims something is one to one, but she's trying too hard to justify every change as positive. It's not an analysis, it's a rationalization.OF COURSE, the one exception where the author even remotely flirts with critiziing the change is the single time they switch the catchphrase to something that could be perceived as sexist. I'm shocked at this revelation about the author's political leaning. SHOCKED.
>>737273469>>737273958How faithful were the RE2R, RE3R and RE4R translations?
>>737274065No clue, didn't play. But Capcom localizations tend to be decent, even their worse ones aren't really THAT bad.The english voice acting is what went to complete shit in recent years, RE8 is laughable. But the script is fine.
>>737272373Don't forget 60fps breaking a bunch of QTE timing (looking at you robot salazar).
>>737274228It's the mine cart for me. Robo Salazar at least has a save point nearby, mine cart is after the whole fucking gauntlet just to get fucked.
>>737248673I just beat the game for the first time after hearing about it for 20 years but never playing because scary games are scaryI thought it was pretty good. The ending when it sounded like hunnigan was going to file an HR report on Leon was the only joke I thought was funny
>>737272373There are also some differences between the American, European, and Japanese GC versions (lowered difficulty, fixed camera angles, jiggle physics)
>>737273469>>737273958Shinsaku Ohara directed and wrote the scripts for REmake, RE0 and RE4 Shinsaku Ohara added a lot of sarcastic lines to the English version of the script in the translation process working off of what he thought Mikami wanted (the Japanese script is a lot less jokey)
>>737271054I stood on a single raised platform and stabbed the ganados as they climbed the ladder until they all died. Not what I'd call the pinnacle of skill.>RE4 is unanimously considered the hardest game in the series Getting reaallll tired of tourist season
>>737248673I don't understand why they put the bow in separate ways when there's fuck ammo for it. It takes up so much space and you barely get to use it.
>>737274485You really didn't find the right hand joke funny?
>>737249209you can't /thread your own post...
>>737275321yes i can/thread
>>737260221How did the glass break. Whats the lore
>>737248673The female ganado that goes "HROAR" or screams in your ear.
>>737272347it's not bad at all, it's a fun little shooting gallery and it barely takes any time
>>737274343This is only a problem if you're an autist who doesn't want deaths on his stats. If you hit continue you will spawn at the most recent load door, NOT a typewriter, and there is a load door before the cart room.
>>737260221>leon's retarded UUUUUHHRHUUUWHUUUU death soundOh my god bro, you have no taste. Never cook again. Attention all niggas, never let this bitchass nigga cook again.
>>737266314It's believable. I've probably played the game 30+ times on various platforms, with and without mods, etc. Someone who was really into it could easily do 100.
>>737250090>beloved lines came from localizationThere was no Japanese "script" of any Resident Evil yet you disingenuous retard. The game was written to be voiced in English exclusively.
>>737248673>remake fag takes the mask off and openly shits on ogJust like every other one. Being a remake nigger is just being goy cattle that hate classic games.
>>737281907>There was no Japanese "script" of any Resident Evil yet you disingenuous retard. The game was written to be voiced in English exclusively.The scripts are written in Japanese, localized into English, and then recorded in English.Starting in 2012 with Revelations and RE6, this flipped so the dialogue is written in English originally, then localized for a Japanese dub to run alongside the English dub.
>>737282019Is this bait? Since the very original RE1, they've been voiced in english with japanese subtitles in the japanese version. This is why you have weird shit like when Ashley yells "DON'T COME!" in 4
