How is Kingdom Hearts doing these days? Do you think it’s still worth playing in 2026?
>>737250687I never finished 3, don't really care about 4.1 and 2 are GOATed classics and I'll always enjoy going back to them. I got the collection on PS4
if you can put up with the cutscenes yes, 2fm and 3fm are great action games and 1 is peak soul
>>737250687Despite everything I'm still somewhat excited for KH4. I'm just hoping that it didn't secretly get cancelled or I die before it comes out
>>7372506871 and 2 are still goated games. 3 is one of the worst sequels to anything ever.
>>737250687KH3 was such a disappointed I don't really care about it anymore. Not to say 4 might not be good but I can't be assed following it and it seems like SE doesn't give a fuck about it either so why should I
>>737250687ALL I FEAR MEANS NOOOTHIIINGGG
>>737250687A series with a dozen games of which less than half are decent and the rest are dogshit but you gotta play them all to even have a chance of understanding the story.No it is not worth it jumping into the series as a newcomer because the first one is pretty clunky by modern standards and will filter you out if you aren't used to early 3D action games.If you have nostalgia for 1 and 2 you might as well jump back into the train and finish the job as they wrapped up the story in 3. Oh wait, no they didn't. The ride never ends.
>>737250687>cancelled the live service game that had 100+ people working on it for years right before it came outMust've been an absolute bloodbath at Squenix following that decision. Feels like KH4 is the last chance for the franchise
>>737251470>the first one is pretty clunky by modern standards and will filter you out if you aren't used to early 3D action games.I don't understand this mentality, it's like people are incapable of learning and getting used to new things, if the game doesn't play exactly like the thing you're used to, you're simply incapable of adapting.Idk man I never played tomb raider, croc and re1 as a kid, only tried them now after having played PS4 games like bloodborne and the witcher 3, you just get used to the controls after 20 minutes. KH1 isn't even that archaic, the only "weird" thing I can think about it is that you jump on circle instead of x.
>>737250687It's a good thing they finally ended the wait after KH2 for KH3. Other than that, the games are as fun as they were when they came out. The quick rule of them is that the main numbered entries are worth playing, and the spin-offs are sometimes so bad they should be skipped.
>>737251967>it's like people are incapable of learning and getting used to new thingsthis is 100% the case. I've seen streamers ragequit or bruteforce their way through old games without grasping how the game really works
I'm not expectant on KH4, but if it's worth a try, I'll give it one. I feel like the Disney content might cripple it going forward, because nuDisney absolutely does not have the cultural relevance and goodwill the classic and Renaissance movies had, and they've pretty much ran out of those. Jungle Book, Kuzco and Treasure Planet/Atlantis for the people still left asking for them, and then the well's dry.
Also, if you somehow find KH1 clunky and archaic, you are an actual fucking orangutan.
2FM is the best game of all time1FM is one of the best games of all time3RM is worth playingotherwise the early ones are enjoyable from a story progression and all of them are atleast somewhat fun gameplay wisepeaked hard with 2
>>737253134BBS FM is kino, you forgot to include it
>>737250794I dropped 3 twice.Ill try again in a few weeks...My motivation is drained every time I reach the toy story world.
>>737250687Has there ever been an IP fumbled harder than KH?
>>737253336fumbling IPs is what the industry does bestjust look at Warcraft, Final Fantasy, Call of Duty, Pokemon, etc.
The Aqua Ventus Terra stuff made me hate it.The whole let's give everyone keyblades is lame too.
>>737252443imagine those people having to do any sort of manual labor
>>737252930combat is too weightygummi ship segments are clunky and boringcamera is one the worst in any game ever but I hear this was at least somewhat fixed in HD releases
>>737250687>How is KH nowadays?Its been 4 years since KH4 has been announced and we've gotten nothing since>Is it still worth playing in 2026?The series is still great and fills a niche that video games are simply afraid to fill today (earnest cringekino), and KH2 is still the greatest game ever made
>>737253542gummy ship does suck, but you can just spam shields and go take a piss during the missions and you'll most likely be fine by the end
>>737250687>How is Kingdom Hearts doing these days?
>>737251015I hope they change the art style between worlds, because damn that reveal trailer looks so fucking bland.
>>737250687I'm planning on buying 1.5 + 2.5 when it goes on sale again, I already bought it twice before for the PS3 and PS4.
>>737250687KH 2 still hasn't been topped, absurdly enough
>>737254003isn't there a better collection that has basically everything on every platform?
>>737254003PS3 version sucks but PS4 is still the best onePC is less stable and they used AI to smudge a lot of the texturesonly advantage are mods
>>737253542The combat is just fine, not every game needs to be a DMC combo MAD. Gummi sucks yeah but it doesn't play enough of a role in the game to sour the whole experience, plus after you progress a little you'll only have to do the routes once. Didn't really have trouble with the camera myself, but maybe my perception is skewed if it was really fixed in the rereleases.
>>7372506871 and 2 are fun. Chain of memories sucks ass.3 is basically a war crime. Imagine the combat of 1 but every 30 seconds theres a mandatory ad for Disneyland. Where every 2 worlds they repeat a cutscene. Where the world's are basically just replay the movie but with heartless around. Where there's no charm or soul.And now I dont care if 4 is some life changing experience ive lost interest in the franchise entirely.
>>737254343Before you get Warp, gummi ship is incredibly annoying. I think the last time I played I did something like TT->Wonderland->TT->Olympus->Deep Jungle->Olympus->TT and finally get warp. KH2 solved it with one time thing per world.
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>>737254343>Didn't really have trouble with the camera myself, but maybe my perception is skewed if it was really fixed in the rereleases.I'm not sure if they actually changed how the camera works by itself but having the extra visibility thanks to 16:9 HD and the right stick to turn the camera instead of L2/R2 in the original was HUGE.
kairis size 19 double extra wides on my face
>>737254343Every attack is so slow that it's just not fun to hit things. KH1 does a lot of things right. Combat is not one of them.
>>737254796Hitting things on the ground is fine, hitting things higher than you or flying around is when it gets assy.
>>737254343OG KH1 camera does actually suck. One of the major flaws of the game.
I feel like many people are playing KH for the first time or giving 3 an honest try. Action rpgs are sorely lacking currently, and KH1 is a near timeless game
>>737255090>Phantom boss
>>737255196What helps 1 alot is the Disney villains being the centerpiece, instead of Org13. Movies/characters people care about. In 2 they are important for their world but are still clearly on the side when the "story" of the world is the Org doing stuff to turn them into heartless
>>737250687On hiatus because SE can't manage any games correctly
>>737255397Who's the girl?
>>737255467It's Smash Bros fan art made by an idiot who hasn't played any of the games those characters came from. That's Min-Min from ARMS.
>>737255695>implying anybody played ARMS
>>737254234>only advantage are modsWhich is the only reason I'd buy it again, I have my PS5 hooked up to my second monitor's other HDMI port already.
>>737255467One of Sora's new hoes
>>737255874I don't care how many people played it. I care that someone who didn't play a Kingdom Hearts game or ARMS drew art of Sora and Min-Min.
I've only played 1, 2, and 3. They're all very good, but 3 is the weakest.
>>737254234Re:Fined mod makes the games pretty much as stable as PS4 in my experience, and there's a mod to restore the original Epic Games PC release textures instead of the AI slop ones.
>>737256261I never played any of the games, I just fap to the yaoi.
4 is taking way too long to releasehype is deadyozora wasn't even in the trailershould have made verum rex instead
>>737255874 yeah because /v/ only plays le hidden gem soulslikes and whatever slop asmongold screams about that week ARMS sold like 2 million on a dead console and had a whole ass tourney push from Nintendo. just because you didn’t buy the stretchy girl punching game doesn’t mean it didn’t exist at least it was a new IP and not the 9th “darkness but this time it’s xehanort’s horoscope” rerelease besides the only reason you even know Min-Min is because she suplexed half the Smash roster while Sora mains were still asking what a tech is
Is there any new lore? Did that recently cancelled mobile game have any story bits?
>>737258171>dead console
>>737256965is that the synthetic man?
>>737258171Nobody fucking played that shit you retard. Stop with the gaslighting.
All of the games are good except for UX.Yes, even that one. They're all good. The worst one is BBS and that's still an interesting 6/10.
>>737254432You can turn off the attractions but man 3 is weaker compared to 1 and 2
>>737258607yes the futaman himself
>>737261937I generally agree except for two things:1. It's all the mobage that's bad. UX, Dark Road, Missing Link if it didn't get cancelled. You might have meant that but I wanted to be more thorough.2. I'd argue Days is the worst. I like Days in spite of its faults, but its faults outweigh BBS (though it is close, I won't argue that).I've always said 'the worst Kingdom Hearts game is at worst a mediocre action RPG', it's just that with KH1 and KH2 in the franchise people expect that kind of quality from all of the games, which obviously didn't happen.
>>737250687You know I look at this artwork and I don't see Sora as an Asian. He does NOT look Asian. And yet Nomura is trying to force the characters to be Asian for Kingdom Hearts. They just don't fucking look it. Their eyes don't look it in the hand drawn Nomura artwork and ingame they don't look Asian. The only time the characters look Asian is the CG models and even then that's inconsistent. Anyway fuck Nomura for trying to make the cast Asians.
>>737262952I think Days, at a base level, at least feels much better to play and has a more interesting progression/gearing system than BBS. BBS's progression feels awful with Keyblades being the most meaningless in perhaps the entire series and combos feel like SHIT. Days's big issues are whether or not you like the mission structure and the enemies being too tanky if you don't bring magic (or you're fighting that dogshit neverland boss) but I don't think that makes it worse than BBS.Otherwise, fully agreed with your post.
>>737250687No. Kingdom Hearts only appeals to Disney Fans and even then fans of the Disney Renaissance in particular. Modern Disney fans who grew up on...Inside OutMoanaFrozenZootopiaCocoAnd such examples have no reason to give a shit about Kingdom Hearts. And even then Kingdom Hearts has other deterrents like the story seriously becoming a badly constructed convoluted mess. Even old fans struggle to keep up with story stuff from the mobile games and no doubt a newcomer would struggle as well. Kingdom Hearts is a series of diminishing returns because due to flaws within the games from story to gameplay as well as outside mismanaging the whole series has failed the test of time. Kingdom Hearts is a series that refused to grow up with its original audience while not being welcoming to newcomers. So the series is fizzling out. Notice how young people still get into old franchises like Mario, Sonic, Grand Theft Auto, etc? Kingdom Hearts cannot do that. And the number of people willing to give a badly assembled Disney Fan Fiction a try is becoming smaller. Kingdom Hearts is dying worse than Assassins Creed. For one thing Assassins Creed is an original series while Kingdom Hearts relies on copyrighted brands that aren't universally popular anymore. Kingdom Hearts has a foggy and grim future. Expect Kingdom Hearts 4 to sell badly. Especially since the story is still a mess and Disney's modern movies like Zootopia are garbage and Disney has rules for how their newer brands are presented causing problems.
>>737263398>Kingdom Hearts cannot do that.The KH collection sold so well on Steam that it was in the top 10 best selling titles for like two consecutive weeks.
>>737263489Don't bother replying to that autist. He lived in his own delusion.
>>737250687KH is at its peak thanks to 3 snd we've been getting banger games released frequently this past decade. KH4 next year will blow us away.
>>737263398>Kingdom Hearts is a series of diminishing returns because due to flaws within the games from story to gameplay as well as outside mismanaging the whole series has failed the test of time. Kingdom Hearts is a series that refused to grow up with its original audience while not being welcoming to newcomers. So the series is fizzling out. Notice how young people still get into old franchises like Mario, Sonic, Grand Theft Auto, etc? Kingdom Hearts cannot do that.Because its too terrible. That's what happens when a series is too flawed.
>>737263489And how many of those sales are old fans rebuying the same old games yet again? I can believe re-releasing old games like Resident Evil's games on Steam works out well since Resident Evil has universal appeal, its human with guns shoot monsters. But Kingdom Hearts doesn't have that draw its an embarrassing fan fiction about Disney characters that not even the Deltarune and Undertale fanbases finds attractive. And you got to remember that Undertale and Deltarune fans are essentially the same as Kingdom Hearts fans. When not even they like Kingdom Hearts. And remember Sora wasn't well received in Smash Bros either. King K Rool and Banjo had higher viewerships for their trailers while Sora's was lower. Kingdom Hearts is most certainly a fizzling out series.
>>737263784>COPE COPE HEADCANON COPE COPEOkay man
>>737251015It won't get cancelled because Kingdom Hearts still sells good. However I expect Kingdom Hearts 4 to sell quite badly itself. Many people used Kingdom Hearts 3 as their final game before dropping the series. And it doesn't help Kingdom Hearts 3 was notably disappointing for many reasons. Kingdom Hearts 4 will sell quite terribly.
>>737251314To be fair Square doesn't care that much about Kingdom Hearts. It was Wada who said Kingdom Hearts would be a pillar series for Square Enix and that man hasn't worked at Square in like ten years. He's been gone for a long time. As such Kingdom Heart's status as a pillar series is doubtful. And because Square never owned Kingdom Hearts as its Disney's property there is less incentive to care about it similar to Parasite Eve. If Square Enix doesn't own it, they won't care about it. And Kingdom Hearts lasting as long as it has is a pure miracle. Think the only reason it lasted so long is the notoriety of having the official Disney brand itself involved.
>>737263784>And remember Sora wasn't well received in Smash Bros either.lollmao even
>>737263784>And remember Sora wasn't well received in Smash Bros either.
>>737251685>Feels like KH4 is the last chance for the franchiseEven if KH4 manages to sell well, remember Nomura is only making KH4 to answer the mystery of Sora's fate. After this he wants to make Verum Rex which means more years of Nomura's life will be wasted on a new project. That means Kingdom Hearts 5 will be MANY years away forcing fans to wait because no way Kingdom Hearts 4 will not end on a cliffhanger, its a literal NEW BEGINNING story arc. And waiting too many years is how people lose interest in stuff.
>>737263784>And remember Sora wasn't well received in Smash Bros either.We're reaching levels of copium not thought possible.
>>737264194>>737264263Look at the trailers for Banjo and King K Rool. Sora's trailer has lower numbers. Sora only beat more niche characters like Mythra and Kazuya.
>>737252870>the Disney content might cripple it going forwardThe problem is that Nomura and Square Enix staff are hacks. Even if you relied entirely on original material they would do terrible because they are indeed hacks. No one thinks the original material of Kingdom Hearts is good and if they did not anymore. Between the time travel, clones, reviving dead characters, mystery box, etc its all garbage.
>>737250687KH3 is not even a bad game. It just starts at a lame point in the story after Sora got stripped of all his powers and failed his keyblade master exam. He pretty much got dunked on in DDD. The first five worlds are him and Dona’s and Goofy going on filler adventures retraining him back up from level 1
>>737264126Yeah KH1 was in PS2 Top-10 selling games ever and that was purely thanks to being marketed as a Final Fantasy crossover and a collaboration with Disney, the FF brand being one of the biggest names in gaming and Disney still being beloved during that era. KH has little to do with Final Fantasy anymore, the FF name has been tarnished anyway thanks to Squeenix's own mismanagement, and even Disney has become a laughingstock now.Even if KH4 was good it will sell like shit because most old farts that grew up with it have long abandoned the series and anyone new has no reason to care.
>>737264392First of all>using YouTube numbers as the only metric of how well received a character isSecondly, Sora debuted in a Sakurai Presents which has the same amount of views as Banjo.
>>737264973Exactly, Kingdom Hearts as a brand fails the test of time. It can't get new gens of consumers to get invested into it. But about Disney while its true Disney isn't as iconic as it was during the Renaissance even now they are still cashing in on their live action remakes and sequels most of which are total successes. A few duds aren't going to stop the Disney Factory.
>>737264764Honestly 3 isnt terrible tho i adulted like 4 times in the span of kh2 to 3 that when it came out i just didnt enjoy games. Kh3 was just hallway disney movies and fuck the time travel which i have slightly come around to with a mash everything together ending. Kh1 and 2 are hallways but it feels like they arent as a kid. The director even said in the collectors edition pamphlet hes sorry it took so long and he wanted to make everyone happy (so he understands if you dont like it) which was kinda cool
>>737264764That's what makes Kingdom Hearts 3 so horrible. Most of the game is blatant unapologetic filler because it turns out Sora never needed to go to the Disney Worlds this time around. The Disney Worlds are an annoying contractual obligation each KH game must do, but this time the writing even in-universe had the characters comment about how pointless the Disney Worlds are like in Tangled's world...Donald - Why are we in this world?Sora - Beats me Donald!The original story had enough material that needed fleshing out but the staff who made the game refused and that's how we ended up with the rushed finale.
>>737265164This is my problem with everything right now who the fuck wants disney in kingdom hearts it was cool in 1 and 2 had enough style to carry the disney but its like why the fuck should i care about something i dont give a fuck about just because. like pokemon champions (which has good gacha mechanics) when its just a company giving you a meta and saying this is what we are all playing right now its giving me ocd about hating the hundreds of new shit design pokemon. When its obvious games are being made to make munny instead of being a cool creation of... a GAME
>>7372506871 and 2 absolutely. The others are still decent-good, but they never reach the same highs of 1 and 2.
>>737265465>>737265362That's the thing though. The writing is simply shit irrespective of the continued inclusion of Disney. I think Disney provides a good backdrop for level/enemy design, but, separately, the writing, both for the individual worlds and the overall story, is horrendous. They could have easily told a much better overall story, and fleshed out the existing material, during those worlds, they simply did not write any of it well enough and wasted that time needlessly.
>>737265164>even now they are still cashing in on their live action remakesand no doubt kh4 will be built around them
I feel a phantom pain from Versus XIII.It's hard to be excited for Kingdom Hearts because of this. There is now pain associated with the series. The old games are still fun, but between Versus XIII and Disney going out of its way to shit on its white male audience for the past decade+ it's hard to care about Disney.
>>737253950Square doesn't even bother with KH4 news anymore they just look at you like this
>>737250687Square and Disney are both washed. No way in hell 4 is worth anything
